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All right, welcome back to the Audible, Kimbo Camper, John

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Cojemmy has been a couple of weeks, and John,

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Hi, John, So here we are. Man. It's it's the drafts

0:38

right around the corner. And you know, there's

0:40

a there are a number of days

0:43

weekends in the in the NFL

0:45

calendar that but we really get to

0:47

get your hair standing up on the back of your

0:50

neck. And and certainly the draft is one

0:52

and it's right upon us. And well, I tell

0:54

you what I'm you know, I feel like I've been a kid

0:56

in an ice cream store. You've got three

0:58

picks. You've got two picks in the first

1:00

round, you've got a high third round pick, and

1:03

boy, you've got a good a lot of opportunity.

1:06

I don't know that I've been this excited

1:08

for a draft, UH in

1:10

a long time. With where this team

1:13

is at, what they've accomplished

1:15

in two years, and what we think

1:17

they may accomplish over the next couple

1:19

of weeks. Well, it can change the dynamic

1:22

of your organization if you do

1:24

it right, if you're able to hit on the

1:26

draft choices that are out there and be

1:28

able to plug those players in make

1:30

them be impactful right away. And that's what the

1:32

Dolphins have, you know, with their first four

1:35

picks in the top fifty. You have to

1:37

be able to strike. You have to be able to go

1:39

in and identify the

1:41

positions of need and then plug those

1:43

players in that you feel like you're going

1:45

to make an instant impact on your

1:47

offense, on your defense, and then later

1:49

on in the draft on your special teams,

1:52

because it does take all three facets.

1:54

I think Tampa was an outlier last year.

1:56

UH. They didn't pay a whole lot of attention to

1:59

their special team because a lot of

2:01

their star players couldn't play on the special teams,

2:03

so they had to make do with what they had. But

2:05

they had good enough offense and good

2:08

enough defense to carry that other

2:10

unit to a super Bowl. Now

2:12

when you look at this and you talk about the picks

2:15

and top fifty picks in the draft,

2:18

four of them, Um,

2:20

what do you see, John in your mind? And it kind

2:22

of changes with the shuffling shoffling

2:25

NFL. You know, there was a Deshaun Watson

2:27

hot guy, and then that cooled off really

2:29

quickly in a bad way. And yet

2:31

you see quarterback more quarterback movement

2:34

this year, John, and I can recall in a

2:36

long time, Um, And it

2:38

opens the doors for a lot of different situations.

2:40

You feel like it's six with the Dolphins. They're

2:43

gonna really be able to get pretty much what they want.

2:45

But that being said, that's

2:48

if things fall out the way we expect

2:50

them to fall out, which, like we've seen

2:52

in the past couple of years, John, not always

2:54

the case. You never know, Bo

2:57

what's gonna happen in the draft. You absolutely

3:00

don't know. There could be a draft,

3:02

a trade that the Dolphins

3:04

make that actually changes the dynamic

3:06

of what their needs are. I still

3:09

think you know, although the names may have

3:11

changed from a month ago two months

3:13

ago, for the Miami Dolphins, I think

3:15

their needs haven't changed. I still

3:18

think they need a wide receiver at

3:20

six. Pick your flavor. It doesn't

3:22

really matter to me. Depends on

3:24

you know who's who's still there at

3:27

a team. I would say the

3:30

Dolphins need a running back. Pick your flavor

3:32

there Again, I would go with Harris,

3:34

but uh, at the end is quality.

3:37

Uh. You have Williams out of North Carolina. He's

3:39

he's he does everything, They're They're in every

3:42

down back. So I think there's

3:44

a lot of certainty

3:46

with what you need, and those positions

3:48

are still there, those players are still there. I

3:50

just don't know how the board's gonna fall,

3:52

as you said, Bow with all the uncertainty.

3:55

I think with the forty niners on who they're gonna

3:57

pick as that third quarterbacking

4:00

off the board, and then you have uh

4:03

Atlanta as an outlier, they

4:05

could go after that wide receiver slash

4:07

tight end Kyle pits Uh

4:09

that the Dolphins may cover it, and then

4:11

Cincinnati could do the same, or they could both

4:13

go offensive linemen. So there's

4:16

a lot of uncertainty. But the Dolphins need

4:19

of of wide receiver and running back

4:22

in the early picks. That has not changed.

4:24

Yeah, and and and john No matter what

4:26

happens in the top five. Uh,

4:28

they're gonna have their choice there. They're gonna have

4:31

I mean you're talking about you know, you any anywhere

4:34

from Henny Sewell could fall down

4:36

there. Two two pits falls down there,

4:38

which you know, And then and then that plethora

4:40

of of wide receivers out there,

4:42

the kid from Clemson, the two Alabama guys. I

4:44

mean, you know it's like, well, which you

4:46

know, which which style do you want? You want Calvin Johnson

4:49

or do you want a little speedy the guy that can can go

4:51

over the top all time? So the opportunities

4:53

are there. Do you think the Dolphins

4:55

are done moving? Because over in the last week

4:57

or so, there's been you know, there's been

4:59

this little I keep seeing this little thing pop up every

5:01

now and hey, the Dolphins might want to get it back

5:03

up to four by creating And I'm

5:06

sending to myself saying, wait, look, let's not get

5:08

greedy here. I'm pretty happy with where

5:10

we're at at six, at eight team and

5:13

then and then with your two picks in the second round.

5:15

Like you said, I think you can come away with a you

5:18

know, you're really you know, for for a

5:20

team that over the last couple of years, you know,

5:22

you come into draftical you know there's so many needs

5:24

for this team. I don't see that as

5:26

a case this year. They're specific needs

5:28

that this team has, and they're all gonna

5:30

be there at number six unless

5:33

somebody or some organization

5:36

showers you with gifts in terms

5:39

of draft capital over the next

5:41

couple of years. I think the Dolphins

5:43

would have made a mistake moving from

5:45

three to six and then trying to get back to

5:47

number four. If they knew what they wanted

5:49

at three, they should have stayed at three, picked

5:52

their guy, and move on. Go to eighteen,

5:54

pick your guy. I think that right

5:57

now the Dolphins are still in a pretty good position

5:59

to get and covet the wide

6:01

receiver that they want. Now.

6:04

If like I said, an organization might

6:06

be desperate to move up. If

6:09

that's the case, and the Dolphins can

6:11

get more draft capital and

6:13

still get their guy, and

6:15

still get their guy, go for it.

6:18

But I would have stayed at three

6:21

if if that was If you if

6:23

that was the case, you're gonna do that. But but you know what it's

6:25

you know, it's funny. You could you could, you

6:27

could, you could literally you could go into this draft. Trevor

6:29

Lawrence goes number one and then all of a sudden,

6:33

someone comes out of left field with something

6:35

at two or three. And then

6:37

all of a sudden, then the trade windows open. You

6:39

may have guys below you that

6:42

are coveting. Some of those guys they didn't think

6:44

we're gonna be there that Now you go,

6:46

okay, all right, okay, now let's now let's talk

6:48

a little bit and and and see

6:50

what you do there. But other than that, I'm

6:53

I'm kind of like with you, let's you know what you

6:55

know, there's there's I was taught a long time agoing to business.

6:57

You know, Pigs get fat, hog hobbs

7:00

get slaughtered, you know, so you

7:02

know, you you've kind of you've kind of filter trough

7:04

pretty good. Let's let's not get slaughtered

7:06

along the way. So where the Dolphins stand right now, They've got

7:08

number six, They've got number eighteen. Uh

7:11

the six pick came from Philadelphia. They've

7:13

got number thirty six that came from Houston,

7:15

number fifty. They go into the round three eighty

7:18

one they've got no pick in the fourth round. They've

7:20

got the hundred one, number

7:22

one, hundred fifty six overall fifth round pick

7:24

No. Six two and the seventh, number

7:26

two thirty one and number two fifty

7:29

eight. And uh, you know, John,

7:31

we we talked, we always talked about the first round

7:33

in this in the draft going in because

7:36

it's you know, it's like the uh, it's like the Masters.

7:38

You know, it's it's it's the biggest one of the year,

7:40

biggest pick, the biggest round of the year. But

7:43

boy, in those ladder picks, John, you don't have a

7:45

fourth, you don't have a six. Um,

7:47

you still find some pretty good guys there. So and

7:50

you know it this day and age

7:52

in the National Football League, the chances

7:55

that all your all the rookies that you draft, we're

7:57

gonna end up on your football team.

7:59

Well, you hope, so you hope

8:01

you do a great enough job that some

8:03

of those undrafted free agents make make

8:06

a team, make your roster, ulster

8:08

that bottom forty five to fifty

8:11

three, you know, and and and make an

8:13

impact on your team. You hope

8:15

you you hit it out of the park in the first

8:17

four picks and you hold on for dear life.

8:19

If you pick up an extra pick along the way,

8:21

great, but when you do, you're

8:24

gonna have to find those outside linebackers

8:26

that can run, those safeties that can run,

8:28

those tight backup tight ends that can run, and

8:31

they can fill in on your special teams because

8:33

that's where you're gonna You're gonna be shy with

8:35

draft choices, So you have to be very

8:37

particular later in the round and

8:39

undrafted free agents that you feel

8:42

like you've seen that mold on your team

8:44

before you want to go copy that mold.

8:46

Get that guy with the right attitude

8:49

and the right frame of mind that

8:51

he knows it, he knows his job description,

8:53

and that's how he's gonna make his path onto the

8:55

Miami Dolphins roster is through

8:58

special teams. Would be nice of your kind

9:00

to the rand new Van Ginkl or one of those guys out there

9:02

that you get them, get them in one allowed

9:04

a round, and all of a sudden, you know two years later

9:06

you got as a star

9:08

and a starter and a star for your football team.

9:11

Uh And really that's you know that as

9:13

much as anything going into this draft, John is gonna

9:15

make your draft if you can find a

9:17

couple of jewels there in the loud part

9:20

of the draft. You hope so both

9:22

that that would be you know, the rib and to tie

9:24

everything together. Uh, you hit it out

9:26

of the park. You do a great job early, You

9:29

satisfy needs as you go along, and

9:34

then you find one or two players Boat

9:36

that surprises you that

9:38

Brian Floors and the staff can develop and

9:41

make into an NFL starting

9:43

football player. That's what you're looking for. That

9:46

you're looking for the mold and then you have the

9:48

coaching staff to do it. Yeah, and then I'll

9:50

tell you one thing we've seen on this coaching staff is they

9:52

developed, They've developed players, and

9:55

we've seen it in that short short time that

9:57

that Brian has been here, that they

9:59

do a good job. Uh that that lead from

10:01

one year one the year two he's

10:03

been he's been pretty good under those

10:05

guys. Now

10:09

it's time for us sitting down amplified

10:11

by hard Rock Hotel joining us now from

10:13

ESPN covers the Dolphins. Cameron wolf

10:16

Camp, thanks for taking a little time out to join

10:18

us here. Pre draft A lot of talk going

10:20

on, a lot of information, a lot

10:22

of misinformation. That's the

10:24

greatest thing about pre draft talk. No

10:26

one knows what they're talking about. Yeah,

10:29

I love to call it smoke screen season. You know, all

10:32

everything coming from every different way.

10:34

You know, you're just trying not to cough on the smoke because

10:37

you're gonna hear one day the Dolphins are doing

10:39

this, this team is doing this, and

10:41

then we all turned turned into the draft and

10:43

we're always surprised by something. So

10:46

it's it's always good to make projections.

10:48

But I'd say there's there's there's

10:50

a smaller group of people who actually know for sure what's

10:52

gonna happen. Yeah, well, very very small

10:55

group. And I think those that think they know don't

10:57

really know because the ones that know more

11:00

aren't aren't really telling them. It is the

11:02

it is the time of misinformation at this point.

11:04

But but look, there's a lot of a lot

11:06

of opportunities out there, and certain for the Dolphins,

11:09

certainly for the Dolphins. And you know, it's

11:11

funny you talk about trying to project and trying

11:13

to pick who's gonna be aware? You

11:15

know how it is? Can you get you get one

11:17

outlier that pops up in the with

11:20

the fifth pick in the draft changes

11:22

the whole draft board. Now everything You might as well

11:24

just throw your your mock grafts out of the way, because

11:26

now they're all out of whack. Yeah. Absolutely,

11:29

I mean you look at what the Dolphins have done. Now

11:31

they're at number six, and I think it's at

11:33

it more intrigued because at number three, you knew

11:35

that you're gonna get the best non quarterback

11:38

on the board. Now you have a couple of teams above

11:40

you where it could throw

11:42

a wrench in it. What if what if Atlanta goes here

11:44

or what if Cincinnati goes here? And I

11:46

think those are the two spots that create

11:48

the uncertainty because we can all project,

11:50

oh, what happens if this players on the board

11:53

from Miami. But Atlanta and Cincinnati

11:55

are gonna have first pick, assuming the first three

11:57

picks or quarterbacks, like I think a lot of people are.

11:59

So I think that's what makes the draft exciting,

12:02

because you know, one puzzle piece

12:04

can change the whole whole thing,

12:06

you know. And I've talked to scouts and GM's

12:08

before who have had picks

12:10

and they're like, hey, I never thought this guy would be

12:12

here, so yeah, I didn't plan for him to be there,

12:15

so but I had to take him because the

12:17

best player available so I think that,

12:19

you know, with the Dolphins having two first round picks,

12:22

it gives us an opportunity to see exactly

12:24

how they stack up their board. And then, most importantly,

12:27

because there's always one or two followers who

12:29

are the followers and you know what

12:31

team ends up getting them, Let's

12:33

let's talk about a couple of things. First. Let let's

12:35

talk about the top of the draft a little bit,

12:38

and then and then let's get into the Dolphins. And

12:40

and I'm not one for projected

12:42

names and this and that, because there's so many

12:44

variables here with these guys, but I do like

12:46

to talk position wise when I'm talking of

12:49

the Dolphins going into the draft. But let let's

12:51

talk about the draft. And with the Dolphins

12:53

city at number six right now, and

12:56

I don't know, you know, you know, we we you know, we

12:58

listened to the We listen the coaches. Every year

13:00

they have the coach and GM they set up there

13:03

every year, have their pre draft. You

13:05

know, they're gonna let you know what's going on here. And

13:07

then you walk away and they said, they didn't say damn

13:09

thing. And so you're you're in

13:11

the same boat you were when you started not

13:14

not knowing it, but with the Dolphins

13:16

sitting at number six, but they always don't.

13:18

The stock answer is, we're gonna

13:20

take the best player available when

13:22

it's our time to pull the trigger. Right, here's

13:25

a question to you. In this year's

13:27

draft, there's a good chance there's gonna

13:30

be four quarterbacks gonna go right off the top of

13:32

the draft, right, probably

13:34

three, but maybe four. Right,

13:37

I think there's I think the three best players in

13:39

the draft are one Trevor

13:42

Lawrence, one A, and it

13:44

can be one A and one and B goes either way,

13:46

either Penny Suel the offensive tackle

13:48

from Oregon, and Kyle Pitts it tied

13:51

in from Florida. One, one

13:53

A and one B. Would you agree with that? Yeah,

13:56

I think that for me, I

13:58

might make it a little larger. I think that Trevor

14:01

is probably clear one for me, and

14:03

then I think there's a small group of maybe

14:05

four or five people who are that next

14:07

tier. And I'd have Kyle Pitts

14:09

in there, I'd have Penny Seul in there. I'd

14:12

have Jamaar Chase, the receiver from Sue

14:14

in there, and I would probably have Davante

14:16

Smith, the receiver from Alabama. I know people knock

14:18

him for his size, but I would have him in

14:20

that group as well. Um, So I'd

14:22

say that you have Trevor, who's probably above

14:24

and beyond, and then you have the next group

14:27

where there's four or five guys that

14:29

are in that next tier. So I

14:31

think, in my view, Miami's

14:33

in a good spot because they're gonna land someone.

14:36

My question, my question is

14:39

this. Okay,

14:41

you're at six, you're Crisp Brier, you

14:44

walk intore and we're taking the best player available

14:47

when our time comes, and you're sitting

14:49

there and you've got Panna Stewell,

14:52

You've got Kyle Pitts and and

14:54

and all the rest of them, because I'm putting

14:56

those other guys maybe half a notch

14:59

below those three guys,

15:01

right, So if you got there and you've got Kyle

15:03

Pitts and you've got penn

15:06

A Suell to the

15:08

top three players in this pick, how

15:10

do you answer when you don't pick one of those two? Yeah?

15:14

Yeah, I mean I think we thought

15:16

our guy, we thought our receiver. Right, really

15:18

like it's better than those guys, even

15:20

though everyone else I'm not so sure about

15:23

that, right. I think the interesting part

15:25

of this is that everybody has their own draft board,

15:27

right, and we hear the best player available.

15:30

But to me, that's a little bit of a cliche.

15:32

I think that there's always a best

15:34

player available with

15:36

need and positional value added into

15:39

that. And I've heard this from teams

15:41

all along, like teams just don't go b P

15:43

A. You know, um, you go

15:45

be p A with that in mind

15:47

of hey, what do we need and what's positional

15:50

value? And you know, a running back

15:52

could be the best player in the draft, but a running

15:54

back is not gonna go number one a role in any

15:56

year probably going forward because those

15:59

value that position is valued as highly.

16:01

So I think b p A is only is

16:04

used to an extent. So when you mentioned

16:06

a Penny Soul when a Kyle

16:08

Pitts, I think that those two players

16:10

are both really good. Um, offensive tackles

16:13

a more valuable position, but

16:15

playmaker maybe a position that

16:17

the Dolphins need more. So you have

16:19

to weigh those things and and it really

16:21

comes down to a scale of what

16:24

do you view as the short

16:26

term the long term for this franchise is is

16:28

adding Penny Soul gonna make you a

16:30

a better team five years down

16:32

the line, or is Kyle Pitt's gonna make you a

16:35

better team. And to be honest, when you

16:37

have a number six overall pick, it's hard

16:39

to go wrong. You know, you're right, it's hard

16:41

to say, you know, I mean, if they draft

16:43

Penny Soul, if they draft cal Pits, even if they drafted

16:45

Jamaar Chase or Davante, if I don't

16:47

think any of those four players to me, if

16:50

you can walk away and say, hey, they made a

16:52

mistake, yeah, no, I I agree with you on that.

16:54

And that kind of slips us over to

16:57

the Dolphins pick. And then they've got one, they've

16:59

got six, right now, they've got eighteen,

17:02

and then they've got what forty? What's there? What's

17:04

the thirty six? And then fifth six?

17:08

And I really don't start getting past thirty

17:10

six because it becomes a jumble then, right.

17:13

You know, it's hard enough to predict the

17:15

top, you know, the first round when

17:17

you start getting in a mid the second round. So let's

17:19

let's just kind of focus on the

17:21

Dolphins first three picks, and for

17:23

the sake of argument, let's assume that they don't

17:26

make a move up or down with

17:28

the with the number six pick. Um

17:32

name wise, position wise, what

17:34

would you what would you like to see what do

17:37

you think would make this team the

17:39

better best team they can be going forward

17:42

by utilizing those three picks.

17:44

From a position standpoint, yeah,

17:46

when I look at number six, I guess to start, I

17:49

look at what the Dolphins did last year, and to me,

17:51

that was a meetum potatoes draft. Andy

17:54

Reid for the for the Chiefs used to always have

17:56

that expression, meetum potatoes. And Chris

17:58

Greer is a guy who believes in building in the trenches.

18:00

So they drafted you know, Austin Jackson,

18:02

they drafted to Robert Hunt and Solomon Kinley,

18:05

and they went out and and bought, you know, spent

18:07

money on Eric Flowers and free agency.

18:10

So to me, they really built

18:12

the trenches. And I know some people could

18:14

say you never put enough resources in the offensive

18:16

line, but for me, I really

18:18

see playmaker as

18:21

the position for number six. Who is your

18:23

best playmaker available? And I

18:25

think we've talked about some of those names,

18:27

whether it be a Cole Pits from Florida, who

18:30

I've talked to people who say he's the best tight end

18:32

prospect and and at least a decade

18:34

maybe longer, Um, there's never been

18:36

a tight end drafting in the top four.

18:39

There's only been a handful that have been drafting in the

18:41

top six. But he's that type of player. I

18:43

think he's got to be in heavy consideration if

18:45

he's available, since in Atlanta could

18:48

be interested in him. To um, Jamaar

18:50

Chase, I think is another name another the

18:52

receiver who's gonna be right there? You

18:54

know? Is it just Joe Burrow and Cincinnati

18:56

tried to reunite with them? If not, the Miami could

18:59

have a choice of of one or both of those guys

19:01

at six. And I'd imagine that a lot

19:03

of fans and a lot of people on the outside are looking

19:05

at those two players and say, maybe those

19:07

are the top two most likely guys

19:09

that we love to get, you know, Jamaar Chase or

19:11

com Pits. So I'd probably start

19:14

with them as the two playmakers I

19:16

I look at. But but beyond that,

19:18

I wouldn't rule out DeVante

19:21

Smith. I wouldn't rule out a Penny sul

19:23

because, um, when you put up your draft

19:25

board, if you if the Dolphins

19:28

I think when they traded back and then traded back

19:30

up made it known that hey, we've got four

19:32

or five guys that would be comfortable getting any

19:34

of these guys at six and

19:37

after that it's just preference, so

19:39

that they clearly think there's a group that's tightly

19:41

bunched together. So we may say, hey, these

19:44

two were way ahead of the other and these

19:46

three are separate. But to me when they traded

19:48

down and traded back up, they say, four or

19:50

five are close. So we don't know what order, but

19:53

we're gonna find out, you know, in a few weeks,

19:55

and there's order. Might surprise some people. They might

19:57

have one of the receivers ahead of

20:00

you know, a Kyle Pits, so they might have, you

20:02

know, Penny Soul ahead of the receivers. And

20:05

I feel comfortable with the four or five names.

20:07

I don't feel comfortable telling you for sure which one

20:09

they're gonna get. I'll tell

20:11

you what I've been, you know, my, my,

20:13

my thoughts since since the season ended.

20:16

With these picks. Now, once they've got the picks, i'd

20:19

like to see, I'd like I would like I would like to walk

20:21

away with two receivers and running back

20:24

Zettienne or not J Harris one of those guys

20:27

you know, and I know running back is not

20:29

but you know, I I'm I'm kind of I've

20:31

kind of come to believe now that, especially where

20:34

the Dolphins are, and you look at teams

20:36

down there, you know you've got about a five year when you you

20:38

load up your team, you've got about a five

20:40

year window to get the job done. Because

20:43

the better you do, all of a sudden,

20:45

the salary cap starts eroting your your

20:47

your roster and and now you kind of

20:49

start going backwards once you once you

20:51

start getting good,

20:54

you start getting pulled down backwards.

20:56

And so um

20:58

so with with the Dolphins, uh

21:00

doing that, I kind of lost my

21:02

train of thought there a little bit. But um, I

21:05

just think that you know, a

21:08

running back, a

21:10

guy that can be ad three down

21:12

player for you, whether whether he's only gonnaast,

21:14

whether he's only gonna last four or five

21:16

years for you, that's your window

21:18

of that's your window to get to a Super Bowl, Right,

21:21

Why do it? Why not do it with a guy instead

21:23

of trying to take three guys to fill

21:25

that void. So again, I'm just getting

21:28

off my tangent on I wasn't

21:30

running one of those two running backs at ten or

21:33

Harris dropped to the Dolph in some way?

21:35

Yeah? No, And I think that kind of leads us to maybe the

21:38

next pick. You're you're talk number eighteen

21:40

and and that pick and to me number eighteen

21:43

is is maybe just interesting, if not more

21:45

than number six, because there are more options

21:47

in different ways you can go about it. And I think

21:49

that adds the question. Like I wrote an article

21:52

and he asked me dot com about Nagy Harris.

21:54

Right, So, Um, Najy Harris to

21:56

me is the best Dolphins fit of

21:58

the three backs. You know, he's like, who's two

22:01

six six to two hundred thirty pounds.

22:03

He's physical, he's a really good pass catcher.

22:06

Um, so he's a guy who can carry the load that you

22:08

were talking about. But he but he also

22:10

has the multifacet skill set, you

22:12

know. I think back these days has to be able to

22:14

catch the ball. You can't just have you know, the

22:16

forty forty carry guy who can't

22:18

catch. That doesn't exist anymore. Your back

22:21

has to be able to do both, and I think Naji can do

22:23

both. The Dolphins are gonna have an interesting dilemma

22:25

because I believe he's gonna be on the board at

22:27

number eighteen. I believe all three of the running backs

22:29

and I think there's a clear top three with

22:32

Nazi Harris, Travisy Tenn, and Javonte Williams.

22:34

You know, you can order on how you want, but I think those

22:36

are the top three. The Dolphins are gonna

22:38

have to decide do we want to take that running

22:41

back spot at number eighteen or do we

22:43

want to wait to that number thirty six pick, And

22:45

that, to me is one of the more interesting decisions

22:47

in the draft because the Dolphins haven't drafted

22:50

a running back in the first rounds is Ronnie Brown

22:52

in two thousand and five. So clearly that is a position

22:55

that over the last fifteen, you

22:57

know, sixteen years, they have a value

23:00

to to put the resources in. Does that change

23:02

this year? You know, at eighteen, they're

23:04

probably gonna have a couple of options

23:06

of maybe getting a pass rusher. You know, there's

23:08

not a really heavy pass rusher class

23:11

at the top, so they may have two or three different pass

23:13

rushers there. They're there who are first round talents

23:15

at eighteen where they can go on offensive

23:17

line again and get maybe a guard. Um.

23:20

You know, there there's a few options. You know,

23:22

Elijah Vera Tucker is a guy I've seen Martin

23:24

to the Dolphins a lot, another UFC USC

23:26

guy, Um, the edge rushers. We talked

23:28

about, you know, Quity pay Um

23:31

from Michigan and uh aziz Agi

23:33

Larry from Georgia, a couple of the Miami

23:35

edge rushers, Jalen Phillips and Greg grus

23:38

So there's there's plenty of options. So

23:40

so that's gonna come back to the board again. You know, I

23:42

think their Dolphins are gonna have multiple

23:44

first round talents available at eight. Team. It's

23:47

it's whether you do that running back there or

23:49

you wait to round two. Um. But I think regardless

23:51

of Dolphins have to find them a

23:54

feature back early in the draft, whether

23:56

that be an eighteen thirty six

23:58

or fifty. But am I be risky to wait till fifty?

24:01

I knew, I like I knew, like the way I know, I like the way

24:03

you thought, man before

24:05

I let you go. Uh, Let's let's let's

24:08

touch on the on the

24:10

trail that the tool has taken. Uh

24:12

gets picked in the fifth pip in the draft last year.

24:15

Uh fits gets to start, he comes

24:17

in and then and then all of a

24:20

sudden he gets in, they take him out and

24:22

it creates like this whole is

24:24

it's like two of what two went from

24:27

being the Golden boy to who the hell

24:29

wants that guy? But

24:33

from walking from the middle of the field to the sideline

24:35

right, the whole changed, the whole

24:38

way people reflect on TOA

24:41

and and I'm a little shocked by it, to be honest

24:43

with you. Yeah, it's been a crazy world

24:45

win in the last six months. I remember talking to

24:47

really last you know, six and nine

24:49

months. I remember talking to fans after

24:52

two got drafted, and you know there are people

24:54

who were excited, jumping in the pools,

24:56

you know, crying they thought this guy, you

24:58

know, everybody's waiting for the next day Marino. That's

25:01

every every single year you hear that. And

25:04

it seems to have a lot of folks that too. It might be the

25:06

best chance they have and getting that next

25:08

closest thing. And yeah, you're right. That rookie

25:10

year, um, a lot of people jumped

25:13

off the boat. You know, a lot of people were no

25:15

longer interested in And I think it's a little foolish

25:17

to give up on a quarterback after one of years. I mean,

25:19

I think different people have different perspectives. I think

25:21

TOA was in a situation where,

25:24

um, Justin Herbert had a really phenomenal

25:27

rookie season for the Chargers, and he was the guy that was

25:29

picked right after two OF, so a lot of people were

25:31

comparing and contrasting, contrasting

25:34

those two guys. I think that really hurt the

25:36

view of two of because it's like, you justin

25:38

had a great year, and then afterwards there's

25:40

all the rumblings of these veteran quarterbacks who

25:42

were available, whether it's Deshaun Watson

25:45

or Russell Wilson, and all of that creates

25:47

a situation where you're not happy with what you

25:49

have um and you don't really

25:52

consider the context of what two

25:54

maybe had to go through in this rookie year, coming off injury,

25:57

you know, not really having the comfort with the guys around

25:59

him, you know, being an offensive system

26:01

that may not have been fully fit to

26:04

what he does best. So I think

26:06

year two we're gonna see a better too,

26:09

That's my view. I think that they're doing a better

26:11

job early in Fredacy, and I expect

26:13

him to continue in the draft of building around

26:15

him, hitting him more playmakers, getting

26:17

the offense more balanced, and I

26:20

think with a full offseason, you're gonna see a better

26:22

version and more confident version and

26:24

more aggressive version of TWA And

26:27

hopefully that maybe eracist some

26:29

of the question marks that people seem

26:32

to still have about the long term quarterback

26:34

position Miami. You

26:36

know, but you know, I kind of look at this too. You you look

26:39

back at you look back at the Justin

26:41

Herbert, and you can look at the

26:44

Burrow obviously, and and what's

26:47

the name the kid from Alabama that's

26:49

in Philadelphia, like like like Hurts

26:52

who by the way, I wanted the Dolphins to pick up last

26:54

year. But I'm

26:57

just saying it. But you know, with all those

26:59

guys, and the one

27:01

thing all those guys had Cam was

27:03

he had an offseason to throw the football, to

27:06

throw the football to receivers, to work

27:08

on the field. Meanwhile, to Us

27:10

spent his whole off season rehabbing

27:12

his hip and didn't start throwing a football

27:15

until he walked into training camp. I don't think you throw

27:17

a football for the first couple of days of training

27:19

camp, in fact. And so

27:21

here's a guy that you're judging, a guy who

27:24

didn't have the off season that

27:27

these other guys had to prepare by throwing the

27:29

receivers and and doing all these things.

27:31

And I think that sometimes is forgotten

27:33

when you look at two of because he did some

27:35

really good things out there, and there are some things he did that

27:37

you said, hey, could do him a little better, But

27:40

you know, it wasn't like he was. He certainly

27:42

wasn't Ryan Leaf out there. That's yeah,

27:44

Yeah, I think I think it's a little overblown that Tool

27:46

was bad last year. I don't think that he was bad. I think

27:49

the best description was he was up and down.

27:51

You know, I think the Arizona game I

27:53

saw some real highs where I'm like, this guy could

27:55

be the franchise quarterback for a while.

27:57

And then the Buffalo game probably left a really bad

27:59

taste. That last Buffalo game a lot of people's

28:01

mouth but everybody was smacked

28:03

around that whole team. It was. It was really a show that

28:05

they probably weren't proud of and they want to improve

28:08

on. So I think that we

28:10

have to be honest that too. It has to improve.

28:12

He has to be better from where he was last year. But

28:14

I think that you have a good base, and you

28:16

know, I'm not a big make excuses for quarterbacks

28:19

guy, but I think if you put all the

28:21

context of what to A had to deal

28:23

with and what he has going forward, I think

28:25

that if what we saw last year is the floor

28:27

for TWA then then I'm excited to see

28:30

what the next step is because we may

28:32

you know, we saw what he did, like you said, with little

28:34

offseason, with not you know, coming

28:36

off the injury, with not much rhythm. What

28:38

can he do when he has all of those things that his

28:40

advantaged and you know, if he if

28:42

he still doesn't improve for that, then then maybe

28:45

you can evaluate it. And maybe your question answer

28:47

is he's not the answer. But I don't

28:49

think that nine games is

28:52

enough of a sample size to give

28:54

up on a guy that you drafted the fifth overall

28:56

pick last year and you clearly thought

28:58

enough to make your friend and chise quarterback.

29:01

Now, as we've seen these days, quarterbacks walking

29:03

on the razors age bad. You

29:05

have a few bad game and out the

29:07

door. You know so, But if you've done for me

29:09

lately, this it's a real quick twitch. You

29:11

know, league Garret Golf and went

29:14

to those guys. That's those guys were just like playing

29:16

quarterback in the NFL. Hey, one thing I

29:18

always think about, think about what if Buffalo would

29:20

have gave up on Josh Allen after that year

29:22

when you look really rough and everybody

29:24

was talking about how much of a project he was, and

29:27

even the second year, you know, and now he's

29:29

viewed as one of the best quarterbacks in the league. And I'm not

29:31

saying that to a is gonna necessarily

29:33

make that same ascension, but I think

29:35

that we get to such a opportunity

29:38

to the show exactly exactly.

29:40

We were so quick to make those hot

29:42

take decisions that we don't let

29:44

the guys develop. Yeah, hey,

29:46

Cam, always a pleasure man. Always enjoy reading

29:48

your stuff on ESPN. Everyone out there, go

29:50

to ESPN dot com. Check out Cam Wolf. He's

29:53

got the best golf in coverage. And appreciate

29:55

your spending time with us. And uh, looking forward

29:57

to seeing person here soon sometimes you still

29:59

yeah, fully soon. Appreciate you man, oh

30:02

Camp, thanks for it. Well,

30:07

John, all the talk about the draft and who the Dolphins

30:09

are going happening. We take a look at the little snapshot

30:12

of the league and and and kind of a big change,

30:14

John, that that that the league uh

30:17

as as man dated this year when they went in there

30:19

got their league season, league year going,

30:22

UM implementing a seven team game

30:24

season. You knew it was coming. Uh, they dropped

30:26

down three preseason games UM

30:29

and in seventeen regular

30:31

season games. And John, look,

30:33

I I when I came to league in nineteen

30:36

seventy six, we're still playing six

30:38

preseason games and a fourteen

30:40

regular season games. And in nineteen

30:43

seventy seven we actually played

30:45

in the uh in the

30:47

Hall of Fame game, so we played seven

30:50

preseason games in

30:52

regular season games. And when we went

30:54

from fourteen to sixteen,

30:58

um, it was a different mentality

31:00

for players back then. It was, oh,

31:03

now we only have four preseason games instead

31:05

of six. We're all for it. A

31:07

little different feeling now going to seventeen

31:09

games in the way it fixed players

31:12

and really kind of way players have reacted. But

31:14

some good, some bad. To

31:16

me, it's another game check. Yeah,

31:19

I think so both. I

31:22

think that you can you can do that. It's

31:24

doable, and I think the players probably

31:26

would like, you know, to see

31:29

maybe two preseason games. I don't

31:31

think they're done. I don't think the NFL

31:33

has done tweaking what they want to

31:35

do with the regular season, and

31:37

and then and then and included in that

31:39

bow. The off season is gonna be probably

31:42

virtual again. You know, all the O T

31:44

A s are probably gonna be on the computer. They're

31:46

probably not a lot of teams in the NFL that are

31:49

going to go out and physically mandate

31:51

that the players show up, So it's gonna be less

31:54

taxing in the off season on your

31:56

body. You're gonna be virtually learning,

31:58

just like they did last year. And I

32:01

think it'll be and and accepted. It'll

32:03

be fun for the fans. Number one, to

32:05

see another meaningful game. I just

32:07

think that eventually they're going to back off that preseason

32:10

from three to two. It might make it eighteen

32:12

and two. I don't know in the future, but

32:14

I think that's all all roads kind of

32:16

point to that direction. I think that's

32:18

where we're going. And you know, to me, I

32:21

would I would prefer eight You

32:23

know, you're gonna play twenty games anyway, you

32:25

know, uh. And I would prefer eighteen

32:28

and two. Uh and and then and

32:30

then and then do those two preseason

32:32

games have joy practices with them, Yeah,

32:35

and and then get this season going because that's what everyone

32:37

wants. And and look, if you're a player, I understand

32:40

the toll, but but you know,

32:42

the league's not what it was before. I mean

32:44

back in in back when you're going six preseason

32:46

games, you play looking I

32:48

think down the road, I think I think we can see the

32:50

future eighteen games, two

32:52

preseason games. I know that the players

32:54

Association it's probably gonna battle

32:57

against that for a number of years, much like they did

32:59

to get the seven team. But it's gonna happen. You do two

33:02

preseason games, do do better,

33:04

you know, practice with that team a couple

33:06

of practices before uh

33:08

and then get it going and then get the regular season going. I

33:11

think that's what the fans want. I think it's what

33:13

the league wants, and at some point the

33:15

players are gonna get on board. Yeah, I

33:17

think so. I think that's what you're gonna be looking

33:19

at. BO. But you know, it's good to see

33:21

the league and the players working together

33:24

trying to get it right for the off season, for

33:26

the preseason, and for the regular season.

33:28

And I agree with you if they end up going

33:30

just to two eventually, or even

33:32

if they stays at three, I still

33:35

think. You know, Tampa Bay and Jacksonville,

33:37

the Dolphins in Jacksonville, Atlanta

33:39

and Miamis. You know some kind of practice

33:42

where you practice two or three days, you play your

33:44

preseason game, You get a lot more

33:47

quality work on film that you

33:49

can evaluate players in a more meaningful

33:52

atmosphere because there's fans

33:54

involved, there's there's you know, it means

33:56

more when you're going up against a different color. So

33:59

I think you'll see a lot more of that,

34:01

hopefully, because I think it makes it makes

34:03

the game better. It speeds up their

34:05

progression as a player, to get systems

34:08

in and see how you how you do against somebody

34:10

else that hasn't seen already

34:13

and knows your offense and your defense and your

34:15

your calls so and and even in individual

34:17

drills. I think it makes it better for the players.

34:20

It challenges them more and get them

34:22

ready quicker for the regular season. Right, I'm

34:24

right. I'm with you John that you know when you know

34:26

we've we've both been to joint practices, we've both

34:28

seen how they go, and

34:30

I've I've always felt since the first time. Look, we

34:32

used to do it with we'd go to in practice

34:34

against the Atlanta Falcons or scrimmage against

34:37

the Saints, and but watching joint

34:39

practices now, the way they run now,

34:42

I would rather do you know, as a coach, give me

34:44

four joint practices for get the preseason games,

34:47

because I think you get much more

34:49

out of those joint practices because

34:52

you can put your players in the situations you want

34:54

to see them in against the other players.

34:56

You don't know you're gonna get that all the time in the preseason

34:58

game, well, everything is scripted. Everything's

35:01

everything's drawn up for a reason, and

35:04

you already know kind of the outcome

35:06

of what you're gonna get in terms of the play call. You're

35:09

just you don't know what's gonna happen because

35:11

it's a different body going up against

35:13

your defensive back, or a different

35:15

offensive lineman going up against the defensive

35:18

end on a on a pure one on one

35:20

rush, or it's a it's

35:22

a seven on seven, and you want

35:24

to be able to script certain plays to

35:27

see if your young corner can pick up the calls.

35:30

So I agree with you, there's there's

35:32

much merit into joint practices

35:34

and I think that's where the NFL is going. And

35:37

I can't wait to get the draft in the in

35:39

the rear in the rear view mirror your

35:41

training camps going and see

35:44

what see what a more closer

35:46

to normal hopefully

35:49

brings for this football team. John Well, to

35:51

be fun to finally attach some names

35:53

and a sharpie and put them on your roster

35:56

and see who they are and how they're gonna be able to

35:58

develop and be able to be playmakers

36:00

right away for this football team. And and I'm

36:02

hoping it's a it's a heavily drafted

36:05

offensive theme for the Miami

36:07

Dolphins, especially early in the draft, and

36:09

we get that one or two wide receivers

36:11

that this team can can add to

36:14

bolster this passing attack, no

36:16

doubt, gonna be a gonna be a good night, gonna

36:18

be a good season, gonna be a good preseason. And I can't

36:20

wait to get things going. And you guys can

36:23

stick around with less with the audible all the way

36:25

through the graph. We'll have some special shows

36:27

for you, keep you in touch with everything that's going on before

36:30

after during the draft. Will stay right

36:32

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36:34

Boat for John kN Jimmy, I'm Kim Boat Camper. You

36:36

guys, have a good week, stay safe. We'll

36:38

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