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hello

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everyone and welcome to the award

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is where we are breaking down the state

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of the twenty twenty two emmys race and chatting

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with the actors creators and more who

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are contenders this year i

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am entertainment weekly executive editor jared

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hall and we have a it's

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, real doozy of an episode for you today

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i teased it little bit at end last week's

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episode this episode

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this our big round table

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with some of the limited series actresses

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who played real at people this year and

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by the way there are no shortage

1:31

of those you really don't want miss that of

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first of the to introduce my guest

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cohost this week it is either you critics

1:37

aaron french there and hello hello our area

1:39

jared so great to be here so

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great to dig into i love the

1:43

the limited and follow g series stuff

1:46

that kind of that that for me is like

1:48

that's the main event at the emmys a

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close associate with that's always

1:52

it's like the the biggest amount

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of like talents and in fried

1:57

and like what's going on narratively like

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forget it it's all of television but in a

2:02

somewhat manageable for her from with

2:04

the our said in the early had a go at eight it's

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my favorite category that and the

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lead actress or in these shows

2:10

because the it's really incredible first i

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gotta ask you if

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, could play any one

2:16

in limited series who would it be like let's

2:19

say deron friend it's actor

2:21

who would you want portray some realize for

2:23

for for real life it's it's tough to them

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to like what what through life figure

2:27

have has not been like taken

2:29

well the rise up and taken just

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yet of us

2:35

presidents in the late

2:37

like not not main character like not

2:39

ray resident the people around them but

2:41

my my i think it's likely me maybe it's okay

2:43

you what if they were doing like like a bush one thing

2:45

i think could do dan quayle at a to go to

2:48

olive i think nailed ask olive

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like that think that's what i exude

2:52

is like i'm there and like

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don't know what i'm doing and legs

2:56

i'm i'm going try things with constantly

2:58

fail that's things often is complete sense like

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you know that the the the focal episode

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on dan quayle that's road really nailed down

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that's are supporting actor nomination as assistance

3:08

supporting it nomination like that for you i like the for you and

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like would just star i think

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would star think the ryan seacrest

3:14

story on lifetime com yells out

3:17

of out of the earth's that's that's an ongoing

3:19

series earth's basically the wintertime

3:22

yeah that's true that is not tv movie that

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isn't not you're right that isn't see has his

3:26

own anthology he's got the radio days

3:28

which are still ongoing stuff american idol

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days which are still ongoing he got

3:32

his short lived own talk show plus

3:34

now live with kelly and ryan that's

3:37

true then the left now like everything

3:39

you're saying we in the he is days how to we

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forget about that anyway there was forget huge

3:43

tangent but of all that to see but diesel

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do that if you do that if will play

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okay there's going test you who was the cohost

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that american idol season one ryan

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dunkelman that's the vets you all

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play all played don't rain to to

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your secret of my secrets i'm down

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for any for there listening were available

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give us a call or write on we're

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we're talking about limited series your i quickly

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i wouldn't get your take on limited series

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field i'm as well as i the

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actresses but first a limited or anthology

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series i mean this list is wild made

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payments on a gas will it's the first lady

4:17

the dropout we crashed a very british scandal

4:19

anatomy of scandal the thing about am landscapers

4:21

women the movement impeachments eighteen

4:23

eighty three the girl from plainville under the banner

4:26

of heaven the last days of ptolemy gray the staircase

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angeline there are more that haven't even

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gotten to hear what you're hot take is

4:32

there something that you are identifying

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perhaps even as the one you think should when

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my too hot takes our then it's

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amazing that like everything

4:41

is american crime story now legs so

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much so that it actually seems as if

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mean i mentor see how this plays out but

4:48

american crime story itself may have

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a harder time now that isn't right had of

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wedding it's way into this prize and

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it's my second not take his i'm honestly

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confuse bow as to whether white lotus

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is an ongoing show or

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a limited series so i believe h b

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o is saying it limited series for

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benefit of this this

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year's emmy voting in

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, case like i still

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think that may have some amount

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of possibility here but

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it seems like it's arrayed against all

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these high powered true life stories

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and and in that sense it's or is it if think it's

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more of us pick and choose which one of those

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we'll we'll wind up with the specific

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right right that's so true yeah me white lotus

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they have been renewed for second season but it's

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a different story so it makes it an anthology

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and yeah so that that's when i didn't even mention

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here i think they're a lock for nomination idea

5:39

i hope so now is so good

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it was so long ago that to me is like one

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the truly defining summertime hits

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of we have years but i do have hope that

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that shines through that's my favorite of the bunch

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by far far i do

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think for lot of people is just matter of like which

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of the true life stories jumped out at

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you the most whether it was the

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drop out with was week is whether it was

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as you know advent that seems to be a little

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bit more where the kinetic energy

6:05

this race is going to yeah yeah i'd

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station eleven another one i even

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forgot to mention to the offer is in there

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you know the series about the , the godfather

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they're just it's wild how many there are ah

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ok let's talk a lead actress in a

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limited or anthology series or

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tv movie because they all get lumped together

6:23

and specifically i'll start

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with who we have on this round

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table today amanda seyfried anne

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hathaway been felled seen emmy rossum

6:32

jessica biel adrian war and l

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fanning julia garner also

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in contention here margaret quality

6:39

lily james julia roberts are

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trio from first lady viola davis michelle

6:43

pfeiffer and gillian anderson michelle

6:45

dockery sienna miller renee

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zellweger sarah paulson again

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the list goes on ah again

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please give me your heartache here will first

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of all like exist just like on

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round table today and possible nominees

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like such high powered like row

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of people it seems like you'd be wrong

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for me to choose between vilma

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but i am going to do that i will just say that like

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i feel like i'm although the show itself

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has had like less of an impact on some

7:12

other shows i do think that with emmy rossum

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there is this extraordinary amount of viewer

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and any voter of love

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for her i also think it helps that like

7:21

andrew mean is very much a los angeles

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story like i i feel you

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know there is a history of those stories can hitting

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voters right where they live with that that

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being said my for

7:33

like best performance in this category

7:35

a native of really loving the show rounded to

7:37

watch but like lily james which he did

7:39

and pam and tommy is just yes

7:41

incredible i think that like that that's

7:43

a larger than life figure

7:46

that would have been so easy to play as a kind

7:48

of parity so he's doing ass and l thing

7:50

i really think that she did something so

7:53

much more so for i don't i i

7:55

find that better performance than just be

7:57

no had so many layers too the

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not agree more

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here's where i'm a little worried and i've

8:02

talked some others about this my big

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fear here is that sebastian stan

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gets nominated and seen doesn't i

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hoof i know right but i

8:11

mean i think she will i think she

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will but if she doesn't a

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what a wild travesty

8:17

that will be

8:19

do you think that's just matter of like on

8:21

the actress side it just feels

8:23

like there's so much more firepower there because it's

8:25

so it's just so crowded i am

8:27

i mean seeing her her name on lot of list so

8:30

i'm i'm very hopeful and i think

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she should be but i'm with you she's great

8:34

isn't it little unfair that emmy rossum

8:36

has the word and me in her native

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, as i did it feels

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like that there is some kind of like minor

8:43

element of like inception in and

8:45

with brainwashing there's a car like my name

8:47

is emily your own reserve like little

8:49

those you know there's an easy one one thing happening

8:52

there and of course you know against that performance

8:54

maybe another one that could gotten

8:56

a very over the house excellent and even when it does

8:58

that it's still ceases seems like she's she's

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going for a very passionate and weird

9:03

performance there so you know get i think that's

9:05

that's kind of key when you doing

9:08

true life performance someone who someone famous

9:10

is kinda finding that kinda finding heart and soul and

9:13

yeah they all did a is such a great

9:15

job of these women i'm okay let's

9:17

keep talking drama because here is where i really

9:19

want to dig and with you let's ,

9:21

about lead actress in drama

9:23

minimalist off a bunch of name's here again ah

9:26

melanie lynskey juliette lewis is

9:28

india laura linney sandra oh

9:30

jody comber mandy moore carrie

9:32

coon christine baranski jennifer anniston

9:34

reese witherspoon brit lower elisabeth

9:36

moss again more more

9:39

are in contention but i haven't said what

9:41

your thoughts here because i sunday obviously

9:44

one this category it's category couple years

9:46

ago or melanie lynskey has really

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emerged as this

9:51

not darling is the right word but

9:54

everybody is talking about melanie

9:56

lynskey right now and then of course laura

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linney is so

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how incredible on ozark

10:02

and i think really overdue for this

10:04

on but yeah i'm curious to hear what you think he

10:07

, think you've even had nailed the

10:09

race prove it pretty quickly if i'm calling like

10:11

before yellow jackets sweep that's

10:13

that's my light like dark horse being

10:15

in drama just okay

10:17

my experience of that show and

10:19

people who have seen it is like the total

10:22

excitement around first season was something

10:24

that ice something was haven't felt in debut

10:26

drama in a really long time of just cut

10:28

a constant discovery it's so discovery it's so

10:30

do even with like squid game you didn't feel that

10:32

didn't feel know i'd for for me maybe just

10:34

the difference is with

10:38

with yellow jackets it somehow

10:40

was doing little bit of that two thousand

10:42

serialized drago the rain right

10:45

right very obviously kind of you know imitating

10:47

stood in terms of like they're being of there being a an

10:49

actual plane crash and flashbacks what

10:51

lot i'm doing switching something so new with

10:53

that material and you know to have that inspiration in

10:55

such different direction so ice i do think

10:57

that melanie lynskey is gonna we're i

10:59

think you're right that yoshi somebody who has

11:01

doing such good websites long time and is so well respected

11:04

and that just you know that proceed with a showcase

11:06

for her that at eb it's like

11:08

every time juliette lewis was unscreened

11:10

dylan's aqim for me personally

11:12

van was like absolute apex

11:15

entertainment so i'm ah nothing there's

11:17

least a nomination for

11:19

her and hoping that you know as

11:21

the soaked to due expand you know there were

11:23

there be lots yellow jackets love to give around

11:26

and in in in in duration

11:28

of other that this run on showtime yes

11:30

yeah juliette lewis plus showtime christina ricci

11:32

also great i'll have seen this

11:34

year his legs like

11:37

i like she could get in there as well

11:39

so that that have lens what i'm i'm

11:41

i'm out the full yellow jackets like

11:43

you know philip fill up for you than of the category

11:45

much as possible and mean you know with so much

11:47

talent and so many shows that so

11:49

when those women together with just

11:51

like of absolute distillation of

11:54

certainly for someone who grew up watching

11:56

lot of those actresses like you're

11:58

seeing them and just such amazing rule together

12:00

was just incredible yeah yeah

12:03

a okay drama act

12:05

door a we have couple of guys from

12:07

a squid game one who will be nominated

12:09

one who won't ah lee jung jae will

12:11

be nominated lehman whoa hm

12:13

he's on the peripheral but i i

12:16

i mean i don't think he's going get in there are

12:18

jeremy strong brian cox babu

12:20

dunkirk jason bateman adam scott sterling

12:22

k brown my lament amelia jonathan bailey gary

12:24

oldman john c reilly kevin costner

12:27

again more who i've not named a what

12:29

your thoughts here well my

12:32

website is everyone like

12:34

my dad's age thinks the john

12:36

c reilly is giving the greatest performance

12:38

in tv history so history don't i

12:40

don't i what the current like voting

12:42

demographic line up of the emmys is

12:45

that if it's if it if it's edging towards

12:47

like like grandparent mail like

12:49

demographic like i i wish we had used

12:51

to she may have a pig's he may

12:53

have a big like a bigger than expected

12:55

fandom i'm but my i mean my

12:58

my pick here just because love the show so much would

13:00

probably be bob odin kirk we the

13:02

qualification that i do this

13:04

strange concern that the way better

13:06

call saul has structured it season

13:08

release where you had the first half

13:11

before the voting in second can wait this summer

13:13

i i do kind of wonder if

13:16

that may wind up impacting his chances

13:18

only because it seems as if he'll have a lot

13:20

more focal points in the second

13:22

half of the season and that's going be

13:24

you know year before next year's voting i i

13:26

i'm i'm curious to see how that affects it

13:28

but i'm you know i do think that as

13:31

much as there's other kind flashier items

13:33

here certainly with this an ending i i think

13:35

that you know there's lot say about those guys chances

13:37

but i do think that he's done really solid

13:39

work for a while on show that

13:41

i'm you know is kind perpetually nominated

13:43

for emmys not always really the the the

13:46

the the focal point so tough category

13:49

i i i'd say i'd call him kind a dark

13:51

horse but i do worry that the show itself and

13:53

the way it's released may have kind of impact of that a little bit

13:55

yeah similarly interesting they they of course did that

13:57

as well with a breaking bad

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and

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it's i'm i'm not really want say at

14:02

work their advantage of mean that show was just

14:05

even know better call saul is as

14:07

good as some think a

14:09

better show then

14:11

breaking bad it had a different place in pop

14:13

culture at that time yeah know does it

14:15

was a different conversation around that show

14:17

it was talking so average it was to be yeah retina

14:20

that's that was like the the breaking bad emmys

14:22

victory lap is something that i'm not sure anybody

14:24

could ever really recreate where you had so

14:27

it's just almost in real time during

14:29

it's the run of it's kind final season

14:31

as was kind of with over two years

14:34

which is currently being discovered by people

14:36

and so yeah that's that that was like snowball

14:38

rolling down the mountain experience which i have

14:40

this notice like i felix you had

14:42

little bit of that with the kind of shit creek

14:44

discovery outlets like that that that so

14:46

that's a tricky thing for a for a long running show to

14:49

to a manage for sure the up

14:51

on a i think heard you mentioned there

14:53

are this is us with also a being it's

14:55

final season either sterling a brown

14:57

had some really great material

14:59

are also of we we didn't i

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mean i mentioned her name earlier but we didn't get into the discussions

15:04

mandy moore had really

15:06

seller season as you know daves

15:08

a i think she's pushing

15:11

forty herself might be forty

15:13

playing someone who is then in her

15:15

ah mid to late

15:18

seventies with alzheimer's and

15:20

confronting death i mean it's

15:22

not really something forty year old actress

15:24

gets to do lot of and i'm

15:27

era , you have any feelings on that one there's

15:29

degree of difficulty aspect of our to and do

15:31

wonder i mean there is this history

15:33

of he knows the

15:35

fight like sometimes when

15:37

assumes it's final season even if even if it's

15:39

gotten any love it does sort of feel like okay

15:41

voters now moved on to new things and

15:43

is kind of this curtis nomination but there is a

15:45

history of people kind of getting that

15:47

like you know sort of similar breaking

15:49

bad that that kind victory lap prize

15:52

of like know we were kept giving you this award

15:54

for the final season something i'm

15:56

curious to know how that plays out

15:58

for her especially because it seem as if

16:00

i'm you know that was a show

16:03

that often different actors were going to were kind of getting

16:05

lot of attention and i i do wonder if attention

16:07

kind of kind of shifts to her towards the end but again

16:09

that's the yellow jackets category i've i've

16:12

not fit my crew you've already picked i

16:14

picked my team are you know so i

16:16

i've you know what what what whatever happens i'll i'll be

16:18

happy for the winter but you know this

16:20

is you're talking to the guy who's waiting to see juliette

16:22

lewis and a t v show for long time so

16:25

we'll see where you got her there and now you

16:27

have and queer as folk as well so a

16:29

and he's getting lots of material right now and

16:31

i i'm loving that for her i'm okay

16:33

a last thing here i gotta ask you i'm

16:35

in are awarded digital magazine

16:38

you have brought to readers

16:40

and hopefully voters attention some

16:42

performances that you think are worthy of

16:44

nominations specifically talked about john byrne

16:46

though in we own the city and we heard you

16:48

hear on the podcast interview with him a

16:50

and also talked about ten fifteen

16:52

the final season with the the final season

16:54

the second season of

16:57

that show for a second half of the second

16:59

season or something yeah yeah it feels

17:01

kinda shows on are such a long time yeah

17:03

yeah and fifteen a the show as

17:05

well as it stars my erskine and and

17:07

conical is there anyone else

17:09

who you would like to make plea for now that voting is

17:11

officially underway the to please a

17:13

the the having to make a our first of

17:15

all remember the paramount plus exists

17:18

and there's real good stuff there a you know

17:20

a the two shows created by

17:22

robert michelle carrying i think are always delivering

17:24

great stuff just evil which

17:26

is currently on right now those

17:28

lead actors especially a make culture

17:31

i'm off of mandvi and seeing her

17:33

name out loud for first time katya her

17:35

birds i believe as a they

17:37

are all extraordinary so or any

17:39

love for them i i think would be great for

17:41

that show which doing such great stuff and

17:43

then er i dunno about you jared

17:46

but besides limited series my

17:48

real focus is always in the reality

17:50

unstructured category or

17:53

where you get a lotta fun stuff kind of mixed in their

17:55

you get your a rupaul's drag race

17:57

untucked you get your kind of doc you soaps

18:00

last season believe first nomination

18:02

for below deck but the the

18:04

yeah mothership below deck as well

18:06

i'm know my experience is

18:09

i think bravo just once the focus

18:11

to be on the main show

18:14

right , fans know the blue decks sailing

18:16

yacht is masterpiece and so

18:18

i don't split vote in direction

18:20

bowed to say like if it's called blue decks

18:22

vote for her sister because that's the

18:25

that show has been delightful escapism during

18:27

the last few years years yeah

18:29

well yeah when when couldn't travel

18:31

as much are we get to live vicariously through

18:33

this show a bit beautiful beautiful

18:35

it's beautiful and drunk people

18:37

making bad decisions on a boat it's it's

18:40

all one does yeah and that's really the appeal

18:42

you're on boat you're some kind of a ways from

18:44

people and everything and it's really just you

18:46

and in crew and these and ,

18:48

locations ah i think

18:50

those are some great pics right there on

18:52

a get any merchant you know repost drag

18:54

race on top specifically because

18:56

it's hundred different category

18:58

than the actual show

19:01

that is one that this year going

19:03

off on a tangent against that i think because

19:05

of the conversation that was had on

19:08

that show the last season where you had it's

19:10

five transgender competitors

19:12

on it's alden a lot of that unraveled

19:15

on on tucked and i'm wondering

19:18

if that is ah you know

19:20

that the the wrong conversations that were

19:22

had their that we have not really seen on television

19:24

before could catapult that

19:26

show to a win this year like it's like

19:28

it's mothership series has four

19:31

for five years now i have sweet think that's

19:33

possible mean what what untouched does

19:35

cause i mean you know sight unseen

19:37

the pitch on that sounds like so it's

19:39

like and after show or it's a cigarette

19:41

butt but it is it really does you know

19:44

as as much as repos drag race finds

19:46

time finds it's you know husted

19:48

sort of the don't really fun way

19:50

to to deal with those issues are beyond tucked

19:53

is kind of where it's it's the sort of

19:55

like almost like therapy side of shows

19:57

is as it is it's that kind of like

19:59

you're actually kind of indepth conversations

20:01

i that the that would not surprise me one bit

20:03

mean baru pounds drag race itself is

20:06

kind of up you know every phenomenon in it's own

20:08

right and so yeah any any attention to untucked

20:10

always seems pretty just

20:12

all right well ah with that

20:15

folks please don't go anywhere

20:17

stay with us because you don't wanna miss this my conversation

20:20

with age of this year's actresses

20:22

played real people and and

20:24

series the award as

20:26

will be back after this short break

20:34

this pride

20:36

everyone's coming through for the project

20:41

sure showing

20:42

seyfried crime host ,

20:44

to crime crime true

20:46

crime and ew to shocked ew

20:48

to from plus

20:53

welcome back to the award as to florida

20:55

have to tell all of you this is something that i have

20:57

been on our working on for months

20:59

i had hoped for for months and

21:02

honestly know when you try to put these round

21:04

tables you don't expect to get as many

21:06

yeses as i actually got for

21:08

this one so i am thrilled that

21:10

we're presenting this interview to you today

21:12

because are these women are not just some

21:14

of i think best working actors around

21:16

right now but they really are all

21:18

of them without something radical

21:20

performances this year so here

21:22

they are now

21:25

you know i seen it so choose battle

21:27

scene and vendors and game where have

21:29

marble scarlet witch dockery ocoee a

21:31

mantis sure he the was the more nebula

21:33

and pepper potts all a symbol

21:35

and it's this just amazing moment and audience

21:38

assured well right now i have

21:40

that same kind of excited feeling as did

21:42

watching that scene because we have assembled

21:44

at what i'm considering a powerhouse groups

21:46

of fears and wildly talented

21:48

actresses for this award as round

21:50

table and i am truly

21:53

honored to lead the conversation so let's

21:55

get right to at these eight actresses

21:57

all starred in recent limited series

22:00

it is hands down my favorite category

22:02

this year and more specifically they all

22:04

portray real women joining

22:07

me in the order in which their shows

22:09

debuted we have been he feldstein who played

22:11

monica lewinsky and impeachment american

22:14

crime story adrian warren

22:16

portrayed main each all mobley and women of

22:18

the movement julia garner starred

22:20

as and sorokin aka and

22:22

adobe and inventing anna inventing

22:24

anna decipher it was elizabeth holmes and

22:26

the drop out and hathaway was rebecca

22:28

newman and we crashed elle fanning

22:30

became la michelle carter in the girlfriend

22:33

plainville jessica biel it was candy

22:35

montgomery and candy and emmy

22:37

rossum portrays angeline in angeline

22:40

hello to all of and welcome

22:43

i hope i am

22:45

gonna i didn't really

22:47

, excited to be speaking with all of you have

22:49

i know of course ah well before we

22:51

really get into the to the sick of everything

22:54

going on this work season i have to knowledge we

22:56

have little on onscreen

22:58

mother daughter reunion here with an and

23:00

amanda ripley of on

23:02

t and it's just that intellectuals limit arrived

23:05

there were iran different timelines to you never really

23:07

share the scene together except

23:10

when ah like fun team spirit

23:12

the back when is all those young guys right that was

23:15

that was the only hi it

23:17

really violent like whoop and

23:22

so it felt like a lifetime

23:24

ago that you're right we didn't

23:26

the into to i mean at the unseen i was

23:28

like one the most beautiful as i've

23:30

ever had earnest said

23:33

when we got to finally be together the

23:35

end when you think that sounds we sing

23:37

that song yes really

23:40

you guys ghost away and i'm just listening

23:43

to it and and is

23:44

they could drink the out why i was gonna ask

23:46

if there were any like fond memories from

23:48

from that moment together of that sounds like

23:51

clearly there arts of has anyone

23:53

else i have worked together in the

23:55

past i know we have some who are working together now

23:57

let's let's go through that who's worked together anyway

24:00

when other yeah

24:02

julia anne star at an

24:05

episode of modern love that i directed

24:07

and she is just transcend

24:10

them and a terrific actress

24:12

and just so watchable and love

24:14

fillet and funny and great

24:16

and i'm so happy see her and

24:18

amanda and i are working together now

24:21

so that's really far what about

24:23

you are bad see them out there about to shoot

24:25

an actual scenes together wishes

24:29

i am not have succeeded that all these

24:31

women and bill would just be a dream

24:33

the and when every one

24:35

of the i'm you

24:38

know that all

24:40

of new guys so is this

24:43

for having

24:44

they will surprise this is the audition right now

24:46

forge a new movie and know we are able

24:51

to get along with

24:53

someone's going walk in and hindus for right now snow

24:56

on you know i was missing the all the play

24:58

real women in these are limited series but something

25:00

else that almost all you have common is that

25:02

the women uber traits were part of

25:04

true crimes or scandals and

25:06

traits you're not alone this year are

25:09

there was also julia roberts and gasoline viola

25:11

davis michelle pfeiffer gillian anderson

25:13

in the first lady also michelle sr dakota

25:15

is an aunt lily james in heaven tommy renee

25:17

zellweger in the thing about pam surpass and

25:19

also from impeachment olivia colman and landscapers

25:22

the list goes on and on on but i

25:24

guess this list question i posed you what

25:26

is it about a true story

25:28

that makes it so hard to

25:30

resist just go would you mind taking that first

25:33

super a

25:36

i think the the

25:38

moment for life a stranger and work

25:41

wild than than section

25:43

eight is something that's endlessly

25:45

fascinating we're all

25:47

students have you know

25:49

i and observers of human behavior

25:52

that's i mean i'm assuming that's why

25:54

you ladies love what you do i love what

25:56

i do because i just love studying people

25:58

and like stepping into health issue

26:00

especially someone who has lived

26:02

in watching the world and know

26:05

i had an experience that i haven't her and

26:08

i'm i'm just so

26:10

curious about about that and

26:12

there's so much to mind when there is when

26:15

your characters when you has

26:17

existed or existing currently

26:20

there different they have a there's so much

26:22

that we can learn from each other and

26:25

i think that his leg and bad

26:27

to me is why the

26:29

territory that weekend

26:31

weekend our played light on a situation

26:33

that didn't have that light before ah

26:36

you know i'd share other people's

26:38

truths give people an opportunity

26:41

to to to

26:43

be seen in way in which they feel like

26:45

their life should be seen or

26:47

and he is such a beautiful moments

26:49

such an incredible honor for each device

26:52

as well as the responsibility the well

26:54

and i'm not i'm know that's why i'm

26:56

desolate supply of always been attracted

26:59

to attracted to telling real

27:01

story

27:02

the mean for almost i faceted it's crazy

27:04

like we are a playing somebody who

27:07

them for this is despite you

27:09

know we're all humans were all very

27:11

very complicated and like shedding

27:13

new light the detaining new perspective

27:16

like we have our own unique perspective

27:18

on each character that we play the

27:20

when there's somebody out there the

27:22

world is whereas yeah

27:25

like it's just sam it gives us opportunity

27:28

to shed light on a certain

27:30

that that of that person that we

27:32

wouldn't necessarily have seen and that's

27:34

like super satisfying q

27:38

like at just adding onto him when

27:40

everyone saying you know now

27:42

that there they

27:45

want to hear some and there's to the

27:48

the lack of true nowadays

27:51

in a way i think there's something the

27:53

idea of people attracted to

27:56

ah stories where is role of catching

27:59

somebody in a lie you're very

28:01

so many things that's just live

28:03

live live like social

28:05

media if things aren't as genuine

28:09

in way as

28:11

, as they used to be so think that's also

28:14

also are attracted to i

28:17

want say catching somebody an ally

28:19

but almost those like the scandal

28:21

in in scandal sat on know

28:23

i am determined enough

28:28

where you know there's one thing he satisfying

28:30

gratification there that

28:33

to that rate in you know in real

28:36

imperfect there's something about rediscovering

28:39

someone thought that you've now to man

28:41

julia i i mean he responded to what you just

28:43

said about lying because one of the

28:45

things that were so interesting to me about this character

28:48

was what happens when someone doesn't

28:50

know that they're lying for an aspect to

28:52

themselves is is fake it till you make

28:54

it and where is that line

28:56

where a , that you

28:58

intend to happen doesn't

29:01

come true when do you communicate that people

29:03

are ones you keep doubling down betting on yourself

29:06

and when part

29:08

of dreams or indonesian

29:10

inherently how do you

29:13

how do you navigate that the

29:15

dallas one of things was and change me about playing

29:17

someone real was just you know what

29:19

you were saying amanda about how people multifaceted

29:22

how people are human beings and

29:24

, i feel like animals anybody

29:26

else feels this way but i felt like i i

29:28

my character with someone i met through the media

29:30

and she she actually was very different how the media

29:33

portrayed her and it was really

29:35

he was really interesting to me interesting try to get more

29:38

of her and more that dimensionality in there think

29:40

interesting i bet it and plaintiff

29:42

what you're saying the character that i'm playing if

29:45

somebody who desires to be two

29:47

dimensional desires to be unknowable

29:49

but there's safety in not

29:52

being human and so to

29:54

play someone who's so incredibly secretive

29:56

their truth on who's constantly

29:58

like and in me fantasy

30:01

and shelf mythologizing because

30:03

that is their own emotional survival

30:06

and creating meet at landscapes and stories

30:08

that they can live in because the pain

30:10

of being alive of being mortal of being

30:12

in a human female body of an

30:15

existing in the patriarchy of existing

30:17

as a jewish woman all the threats but com

30:19

with that are to poignant could

30:21

bear and the idea

30:23

that you could create and commit to

30:26

the version of santa fe

30:28

was really really fascinating to me

30:30

and the idea that perhaps there could be just

30:32

as much or even more emotional trips

30:34

to be found in in stories

30:37

that intel to ourselves and about

30:39

ourselves than just whole bunch of

30:41

fact and so malware think you're

30:44

always kind of kind of you're never going to be

30:46

able to tell a true story the way it really

30:48

happened because there's so many people who were there

30:50

who viewed it differently and

30:52

that's why i think it said you know

30:55

in sense it's always failure to do bio

30:57

pack right because you're never gonna catch your every

30:59

little nuance and and we are so

31:01

much more than just kind

31:03

of two dimensional latino number

31:06

of things that happened to us but think that

31:08

be the attempt to to

31:10

to bring humanity and dat

31:13

phan a poignancy an honor to

31:15

a woman story and it

31:18

is really really that adam something

31:20

that i think all the ladies year didn't so

31:22

incredibly well

31:23

adrian you mentioned obviously this is not

31:25

the first time you have have played role

31:27

care to you came off of i kind

31:29

of being an

31:32

absorbing everything you could have seen turn or

31:34

for several years before

31:36

you did this was there anything but

31:38

you took away from that experience that you were

31:40

able to apply to our for

31:43

trying mamie wow

31:45

and he there

31:47

very different people make sense

31:49

and i but i approached them

31:51

the same the and

31:53

for me was about the truth of honoring

31:55

their stories and who they are and

31:58

i you know just one thing the i have

32:00

to say is you know i'm

32:03

a lot of my work is about the

32:05

anger shining light on women's

32:07

stories you are told specifically

32:09

in history and to simply either black woman

32:12

the woman of color ah

32:14

i think that is part my purpose is actor

32:16

is here on this planet right now and

32:20

gordon nest like i wish that

32:22

i had there is moment where and i

32:24

hope that our third it will be moments where

32:26

we can get even more nuanced stories

32:28

about women of color but the truth

32:30

is i'm telling a story about

32:32

a woman who sign was

32:35

murdered lance and

32:37

she made decision to start the civil rights

32:39

move back and guidance

32:41

and all of my work after that and

32:43

everything that i've been asked you about after

32:45

that has been about historical black woman

32:48

that it's hard to push through and persevere

32:50

to push through and it's and

32:52

it's never actually been about that

32:55

never actually been there story or

32:57

their choice it's been about what

32:59

has been oppressed upon that and

33:01

how they overcame it and how

33:03

the company to overcome and

33:06

done so for me if it's

33:08

really just about finding the truce

33:10

for both of them because

33:12

they were both a press and ways

33:14

that era unimaginable and

33:17

came out on the other side as warriors

33:20

but unfortunately and storytelling

33:22

for women the you you get to say

33:24

that were superheroes like never get see

33:26

how we get arcade and that is something

33:28

i've i will always say and

33:31

will always be so proud and honored

33:33

to have an opportunity to get an opportunity

33:35

to widen the lend some of it retired

33:38

he can actually look women

33:40

of color and say how they

33:42

feel to they believed to be

33:44

cry to and not team is just

33:46

as president for all of us and

33:48

i'm the i felt really

33:50

the same for me

33:52

on i like one of you i

33:54

kind of said this in different words few

33:57

minutes ago but you know there's the saying course i could

33:59

make up a fight i'd and the thing here is

34:01

that your writers didn't have

34:03

to because these things are

34:05

really happened for better or worse so as you

34:07

tube you learned more and more

34:09

about the people you were portraying

34:12

won't was the thing that

34:14

you perhaps found like

34:16

the hardest believe to wrap your

34:18

head around on l

34:20

would you mind taking that one first

34:22

the war on what when and was talking about

34:24

than the media that kind of

34:27

are you know i can relate cousin

34:29

michelle carter case you know everyone

34:31

had such an opinion about

34:33

that case i mean remember when i you

34:35

know told family and friends i was

34:37

doing a project i mean kind of the

34:39

gotta roll reaction or the guttural

34:41

opinion of this girl that on

34:44

the media we'll leave for trade this

34:46

tasted a very one dimensional way

34:48

and i really didn't know much about

34:51

her except for the very front

34:53

of biased one sided depiction

34:55

of the shows will

34:58

good for me everything that i found out up along

35:00

the way was on with

35:02

kind of a rebel

35:04

in helped by from i mean i

35:06

think for me it was hard because i'm playing

35:08

a character that i don't necessarily

35:10

agree with what she did

35:12

on and what she did was released

35:15

in lot ways very unforgivable

35:17

on and as you know with these text messages

35:20

and be had access to them

35:22

and reading through them when

35:25

extremely written

35:27

by also if these teenagers you

35:29

also falling love at the same time so there's

35:31

like us a silliness to them

35:33

and school because this dark

35:35

secret conspiratorial aspect is

35:37

and then it's on i'm

35:40

really got her

35:42

through the text messages much like their relationship

35:44

because they only met handful of times

35:46

selves and that would kind the

35:48

most most interesting

35:51

heart can me but i think the had taken like

35:53

i've never played never played that

35:55

eyes

35:56

you don't i couldn't judge shirts or

35:58

yeah think we could all we breeder we can't

36:01

really judge you were playing but i did have to

36:03

understand hurry you know if

36:05

you don't agree with what she's doing it

36:07

what she did that

36:09

bad that i had to try they get to a point

36:11

where i kind of understood how she

36:13

could make the decision that she did and

36:16

which an interesting place to sullivan

36:18

is in think the the writers to and i don't know

36:20

that would feel this way but we all

36:22

are playing these real people but at at point

36:24

you kind of have to disconnect from

36:26

the real person like and you

36:28

know you're you're like okay now i need to just focus on

36:30

the scrapped and create a character

36:33

in my mind as i think someone said that's

36:35

we never got a know the full

36:37

really where did you do it in a new one of

36:39

the truth and so happy

36:41

and today are you have to find

36:44

an arc for how they got

36:46

there and also you to make some

36:48

things up and make simple decisions

36:50

then after he like i'm gonna

36:52

decide this is what she was thinking

36:55

i might not know that you have to decide

36:57

it to get to the to

36:59

the end and and yeah

37:01

hope it was it it was interesting has

37:03

it has ever ah question

37:05

at hand at the same you think how

37:07

would this hard for every

37:08

ready to sell a movie is at the end

37:11

we ever have an app i'm

37:14

originally from me this is really

37:16

was the most work ever put into something

37:19

and because it

37:21

is so real and sell them as i

37:23

said it was him as the is is hot

37:25

hum it how long did it thanks

37:27

how that yeah i'm yeah i'm

37:29

that and getting activated by that question like what

37:32

this really difficult for everybody and

37:34

stressful to be like oh my god are they gonna

37:36

hate his performance because they

37:38

are alive to and it kind of one those

37:40

things in and around such interesting

37:42

character and like the way like

37:44

i mean i i what kind of dropped

37:47

out of nine that

37:50

you might more but appeal present real

37:52

threat of like i hope that they're going to like how

37:54

i could trade them ill they

37:58

then when i was thinking

38:00

there are no ,

38:03

longer did you sleep silly collaborate over

38:05

here like she's over here

38:07

again but but at same time of course was like

38:10

a it's is so we're like them and

38:12

are no mean it's is

38:15

very mean it's so

38:17

much trickier than i thought as in be and therefore

38:20

it so much trickier to move

38:22

on some minute mean the

38:24

challenge i i

38:26

definitely wanted say that many like

38:29

i don't care what this person think

38:32

i'm , creating my version of

38:34

who see what might actually at

38:36

work this thing in that world in that moment of life

38:38

back nineteen eighty so thinking about the social

38:41

media was nonexistent so

38:43

so that was a little bit of the

38:45

i had a different experience with that but

38:48

i would at the end of day thing ah

38:51

are we bringing up this for risk story

38:53

for so many of these surviving

38:56

family members and community members

38:59

are you say what they going

39:01

to think through i was less thinking about

39:03

the actual person i was playing and thinking about

39:05

the other families that have been affected

39:07

so the family by no

39:10

the horrific act that this character

39:12

this woman you know two

39:15

perform the i'd like to is is it

39:17

is it you're i mean

39:19

it's it's as get points bring up to play the

39:22

are you retarded i remember the or or do

39:24

they feel like they're getting some kind of justice

39:26

in on ice serenity

39:28

or you could unique experience because monica

39:31

with a producer on the shuttle at night she

39:33

almost as the bow like a

39:37

other half sister excitement like

39:39

if me you mean you

39:41

look and and think

39:44

she would say same thing that working on project

39:47

simultaneously like a

39:49

lot for her emotionally you

39:52

can it go to for trauma then

39:55

you're watching me go through that physically

39:58

and but it it

40:00

the city it's such a unique

40:02

experience can you have been there could

40:04

pull away from extended yeah it

40:06

was the embassy would send me video

40:08

i'm and i a good refunding maybe like i'm wearing the

40:10

hair idea that

40:13

, like

40:16

the her work out there with there back the

40:18

dynamite the wig i was just like you

40:20

know actually a kite later to they think

40:22

it's like the i'm pretty good korea

40:26

by the modern the great and sentence i've heard

40:28

today i'm wearing your hair

40:30

where you're lot better

40:34

i got little bit of distance from it

40:36

because although angeline was involved

40:38

in our production she

40:40

didn't wanna be involved with me

40:43

that closely because the

40:45

version of heard that i'm playing his

40:47

be the icon of who she is

40:49

not the woman as she is through the guys

40:51

and the lens of so many different people's

40:54

perspectives and storytelling of herself

40:56

my version of her over like fifty sixty

40:58

years gary depending

41:01

upon who's in control of the story and

41:03

when met with her mean the

41:05

first thing she said why can't why do

41:07

have such a hard on call me a

41:09

man at night

41:11

of i i mean that's why

41:14

you're incredible you're in control in

41:16

every situation you're an and

41:19

then she said i you know i want

41:21

you to tell whatever version the story

41:23

you want tell and that way it's gonna

41:25

be your story and not my story because

41:27

only i can tell story credit my

41:29

story those really empowering

41:31

and to be freed from mack can

41:33

know that the things that i saw

41:35

in her the things that we moved

41:38

me and inspired me and

41:40

called me to like genome research

41:42

and become an armored as and an almost

41:44

forget who i was in the process

41:47

right like that said more

41:49

about who i was right in this kind of

41:51

marriage of our souls and

41:53

misguided imaginary character soul

41:56

on and in that way all of these characters

41:58

are finance like emotional question as

42:00

them more than they are becoming

42:03

somebody else who exists out there

42:05

and that i think there's a freedom and having

42:08

such an amazing time listening everyone articulate

42:10

it cause it sounds like we all kind of all

42:13

, similar path in this one

42:15

and everything everybody said a a

42:18

here in and yes they had by version

42:20

of that the one thing that i had that was slightly

42:22

specific to my character was them she

42:24

was very into kabbalah and into read

42:26

and book about kabbalah and one the things

42:28

i read was to humiliate someone

42:30

is humiliate par with murdering them and

42:33

so i had this real awareness

42:36

every day i'm like how do i just hope

42:38

she knows i'm not here to humiliate her because

42:41

, i'm i'm because i someone

42:43

said it talked about make taking bold swings and

42:45

making bold choices choices

42:47

you do have to do that when you're playing a bold person

42:50

and by also be sensitive to the fact that

42:52

watch i mean nobody can never listen their

42:54

own voice can't live look at picture

42:56

you're so upset that be critical and

42:58

now you're showing someone elses life in your interpretation

43:01

and sell all the choices

43:03

that choices made and we had so many meetings about

43:05

this as meetings about team on this project

43:07

was about how do we tell what

43:10

happened without humiliating at

43:12

everybody you know how to we show that these

43:14

were people who whether or not they made the right

43:16

choice the wrong choice have are you feel about their

43:18

choices they were a really were grounded

43:20

in a desire to do good the and

43:23

adam and weather and the

43:25

practice what they preach you

43:28

know we wanted to show that without

43:30

judging how close they came to the market

43:32

they substance don't

43:34

put any when where and saying

43:37

is interesting because when

43:39

i met a anna dell the

43:42

and had a weirdly similar

43:44

kind of conversation going

43:46

what you're saying like it she that

43:49

he me at the know how filming

43:51

was going and she's asking

43:53

me how i'm going play her and you

43:55

know at that time there wasn't a lot of interviews

43:58

with her and people knew about her

44:00

the buy it it is

44:02

your muscles appearing like appearing character and

44:04

they didn't know her story and i

44:06

did said listen i my

44:08

job is to make you a human

44:11

and you don't have to like them person

44:13

when you're not person right

44:15

now their way and going back

44:17

to what you saying of the humiliation

44:20

the thing the lack of

44:23

acknowledging that set

44:25

for said if a person and then you

44:28

women a and you

44:31

are the is not you

44:34

have to love or care of your he can actually

44:36

like pay per character and that you're

44:38

watching but you have to be willing to

44:41

understand why they

44:43

get that they get bird

44:46

so i think that the

44:48

main thing in my hands going back to

44:50

what you're saying with the humiliation you

44:52

know i

44:53

mean you talked about i'm enjoying being involves

44:55

a a a tiny bit you have the

44:57

line i if i'm getting it right i'm think

45:00

is when you break the fourth wall then you say wasn't there

45:02

are supposed be cameo b was

45:04

there i there

45:07

was at one time it

45:09

was

45:09

it was written men it was approved by her

45:12

and she was gonna shoot it and then

45:14

we set to shoot right before the pandemic

45:16

pandemic we sat down for eighteen months on

45:18

over course of pandemic and during that

45:20

time she had some kind of change of heart

45:23

the we've never really explained

45:25

to me exactly what that was that she's

45:28

kind of a rebel and kind of the

45:30

mystery and i know she has

45:32

a documentary coming out sell

45:35

out an author has and by the way out that literally for

45:37

someone to see that because like even i made the

45:39

shell and like i'm already done is that unlike gaming or

45:41

contact i could keep researching that for

45:43

be these characters forever like ice

45:45

i must huge consumer i just one

45:47

s and a movie that net

45:49

and live in at my love that hum though

45:52

so yeah but ultimately you know

45:55

with the shell i felt that the article

45:57

in the hollywood reporter that senate the

45:59

kickoff there took

46:01

them about mystery away from her by revealing

46:04

the secret past identity and that

46:06

she actually rejects on

46:08

and and i felt that with the

46:10

end the show i wanted to return

46:13

the power back to her in the way that we had

46:15

three the shell i mean by using lot

46:17

of her kind of sound bites and lines

46:19

as as and feed for our dialogues

46:21

route i also just wanted to firmly

46:23

rooted the power back in her hands

46:26

on as she was part of the show for

46:28

three years on and

46:30

i wanted to end on her and

46:33

in the end she decided that that's not

46:35

what she wanted and she wasn't comfortable with

46:37

that and i respect

46:39

that and love her and i think one of reasons

46:42

we love her is because she felt kind of unpredictable

46:44

and mysterious to me english

46:46

you or any other way we wouldn't be making show

46:48

about her and so many and

46:51

what we landed on was the breaking the

46:53

fourth wall on and what more

46:55

does she want like i'm on all the monitors

46:57

and then i completely disappear and she

46:59

replaced with me and that's what i hope

47:01

right cousin the end we are the me the

47:04

hopefully more more three dimensional

47:06

version of a facsimile by you can never

47:08

be anybody else and that's why

47:10

we start the shelves with the assembly

47:12

of billboard two dimensional images

47:14

put together to make that

47:16

the picture of a woman for not really

47:19

the woman herself the

47:21

me if i'm monica hadn't been involved in

47:23

impeachment would you have been

47:25

involved

47:26

they're very good question neil i'm obviously

47:28

impeachment is the third installment of

47:31

american history and this is the first

47:33

time they'd ever actually had a real persons

47:35

involved so i think the answer that question

47:37

would be like i would have had to read

47:39

this get insane what the person

47:42

shall was i'm in sarah burgess

47:44

are incredible a writer

47:47

he added your understanding

47:49

wind and monica and it was so firmly

47:52

rooted in the women respect

47:54

him and even though it's called the impeachment william

47:56

jefferson clinton a it's about the women

47:59

around him and it's finally

48:02

on the you know if not the story

48:04

ten services bill clinton or you

48:06

can you do rich british bill clinton it's

48:08

it's the story a friendship that went so

48:10

so so so so deeply

48:13

awry and when

48:15

he was turning the spotlight

48:17

of the story that we think will understand on

48:20

it off and back to

48:22

the women that really are the reason

48:24

that this happens and we're

48:26

in a monitor website neil

48:29

for society to speak to pay she

48:31

was just me why

48:33

did person she wasn't twenty

48:36

sure year old one english

48:38

she wins and she was

48:40

just and years

48:42

and spoiled all the things that they called

48:44

her he bought him out the woodwork

48:46

like for abuse is older acts

48:49

you know to com and distributor

48:51

on the it and hours to

48:53

deal with a she was she was brutalizing

48:56

the way that it's just so horrific looking

48:58

back and so

49:01

i could only ever been up for i had always

49:03

wanted play monitor the in which she

49:05

was a person that kind of suck ups me of like me

49:07

get a medical a scandal the

49:09

right thing and she grew up you know down

49:11

the road premium about us out like i think

49:13

i guess like he but i didn't

49:16

in wine and i certainly would never

49:18

have done it if it wasn't about

49:20

about the women that i

49:22

would never get spoken about when

49:24

it comes to this story and if

49:26

it didn't know me money it's already knew

49:30

twenty two year old girl and a

49:32

almost a year old man even if you either

49:35

way to read president of united states and

49:37

she is she's and turns if you just

49:39

look at their gender on the age of those

49:41

two people it's one of the clearest

49:44

power imbalances know i'm

49:46

an all time and and she was she

49:48

was just so the

49:50

really really ripped apart by our

49:53

fire media and our society

49:55

like at game and early

49:57

so honored to

49:59

to show the human behind that and monica

50:01

was really serious about her bad

50:03

choices being in there as well as for good choices

50:06

because if you the regret it

50:08

can also two dimensional orchard

50:10

it's just like good two dimensional

50:12

portrayed earth you know

50:14

and and one that was given to them

50:17

to ask so long the she read the

50:19

women insist on embarrassing

50:21

dramatic moment the in there

50:23

and and there were times we took the mountain

50:25

she wanted them back and for kids no

50:28

one's gonna believe that if it's only good about me

50:30

as has to be the real thing

50:33

yeah for those of you who didn't

50:35

get to meet the person

50:37

you portray if you could have

50:39

met them and asked one question

50:41

a dream and your case me with as even just the

50:44

family or what would that one

50:46

question have been the great question

50:49

i was terrified to play

50:52

this role for many reasons i

50:54

don't know if i were of dutton would have done

50:56

it if the family with it somewhat involved

50:59

and also this also story

51:01

that i felt was so cheaply very

51:03

and the history of that that community in

51:05

this country and and it was the first

51:08

time was a bus been told the way

51:10

which it has been told and m

51:12

it's body being seen on the

51:14

network television terrifying

51:18

and i think

51:20

i would have just as may me

51:22

what makes you happy it

51:25

had i admit i and i

51:27

can't even tell you reside first son

51:30

don't know what see

51:32

what makes her happy what

51:35

makes her tech because

51:37

so much of it was about the

51:39

, her story is

51:41

wrapped up in what was done to

51:43

her and her family and

51:46

i just i wouldn't know about her

51:48

more about her and even

51:50

though i i i learned so

51:53

much about her the humidity obviously because

51:55

i had do this work until the story i

51:57

had to look at it and do this work from

51:59

the the respective of at this

52:01

time in her life based on what would

52:04

happen h c had to persevere

52:06

she persevered and display every

52:08

time

52:08

the bell i have to get to work i

52:10

have get to work i have to get to work to

52:12

find justice for my boy

52:15

with the literally it

52:18

for every day and and so and

52:20

away i'm i'm michael little jealous

52:22

because i don't i don't no

52:24

and i don't know enough

52:26

about her the diet

52:28

thirty three year old woman i don't

52:30

know enough about maybe still

52:34

who else was question you would ass

52:37

literally such hard question i

52:39

think i would about a billion questions he

52:42

did fabulous question but it's really

52:44

hard one to answer and i'm

52:47

was sitting here thinking what i had

52:49

the guts to kerr

52:52

as candy is did get

52:54

better yeah the a match you first

52:56

did see threaten you first

52:59

i i just don't know if i would have the

53:01

guts to the asked about blatant

53:03

question i don't know of

53:05

, i want to know that answer but

53:08

the

53:08

only person that just popped into my head and i'd

53:10

never shirtless started to see for may never

53:12

thought that this been important to ask but

53:15

i feel like this relationship that candy

53:18

had with her

53:18

very good friend and her past

53:20

or jackie ponder when jackie

53:23

less town what

53:25

i would i have read about that relationship

53:27

in our friendship was that it was a huge

53:30

abandonment the of i'm a

53:32

sister candy where she she

53:34

lost support she lost her female

53:37

through like she lost her but

53:39

she lost best he the deeply

53:42

feel that if that person hadn't last that

53:45

the what happened would not have happened

53:48

that i think would want ask her

53:50

about that relationship and

53:52

if she felt that the rug

53:54

of her life got sort of yanked

53:56

when that email support system

53:59

the out of her life on daily

54:02

basis and i just know

54:04

what the women in my life have been

54:06

for needs and even just sitting

54:08

here listening to all of you guys

54:12

i just feel like i'm of i

54:14

silica have all these

54:15

support system all of sudden

54:18

ah my know you know not all of us know

54:20

each other that well but i just

54:22

wonder how often people

54:24

make decisions in their lives when

54:27

the not female support

54:29

that's taken and how much i

54:31

rely on it and maybe how much

54:33

she relied on it the know the

54:35

beautiful night away

54:37

yeah love , fact that good

54:42

we're on same please

54:45

and we all like are

54:47

you know walking around the same stays

54:49

doing the things that me loves to do

54:51

in it the mean all our processes

54:53

are slightly different are very may be

54:55

very different depending but the think you're right

54:57

it's mean that's really

54:59

nice a really connect on the is that i mean

55:01

is there is this is very sick wasn't all

55:04

played will people say

55:06

, his say on the you

55:09

feel like i'm because i'm was

55:11

like gosh what question when question am i it

55:14

would be a lot i don't know if i would have the

55:16

the guts i started thinking about

55:18

and her eyebrows in the court scene

55:21

and

55:24

lines were the on like

55:27

it would make up and i have my theory

55:29

but i how

55:31

did i thought of with my kind of armor in way to

55:33

she's really says she looks like so easy for

55:35

people but i'm i think she

55:37

was such series the male actor

55:40

hi i'm in court she really had this

55:42

delicate face i think the horse eyebrows

55:45

really did lot also like

55:48

he didn't show lot emotion

55:50

have like ten days smirks and

55:52

things and on i am curious see

55:54

them on i saw it there like war paint as

55:56

it's like she's going in and she doesn't she wants

55:58

to kind of stairs ready for battle

56:00

every day but that's

56:02

my theory i guess out as that but was up

56:04

with thinking through that the liberals are the it

56:06

also looking everyone's kind of physical

56:09

transformation that they've made the

56:11

rules they're wrong this year i'm

56:14

you know whether be

56:15

going to different periods are you

56:17

know specifically you

56:19

know very specific costumes that that

56:21

system something that always

56:23

helps me in like i am

56:25

such a vital part the process bad

56:28

and it's interesting some like you

56:30

guys all don't look exactly to

56:32

characters right now says it's guys

56:35

think it's think it's it's testament to

56:37

share totally

56:40

getting you know evaporated in

56:42

into that role when i was like the

56:44

first time for time that i actually create

56:47

real person that was kind of

56:49

people knew what she looks like any and

56:52

was still alive and ah my never

56:54

had to really transform in that way

56:56

of where people would probably be online

56:58

later comparing you to the real person

57:00

it's trying to get that right and ah

57:03

you know how accurate we all wanted to be

57:05

i mean it seems like we all want be pretty accurate

57:08

because everyone really was i feel but now really

57:10

i like that feeling that ever

57:12

got to do that before

57:15

my question would just be pretty practical

57:18

i work with an amazing a researcher

57:20

named amy ham and she'll by the way if any

57:22

of you guys need a researcher i can't recommend

57:24

are highly enough shoes brilliant

57:26

, she helped me a organized rebecca

57:29

licenses three distinct sections

57:32

and amy will find out as much information

57:34

as it is available the

57:36

middle section replace you like

57:39

there's really very little evidence of what she was

57:41

up to sell i would just lead

57:43

to know which he was up to for this period

57:45

of her life can kind of no

57:47

one really seems to know there's a mystery

57:49

around at and selves and

57:51

think as we were saying earlier you kind of have to sell and some

57:53

of blanks for yourself and make

57:55

decisions for that fight

57:58

and fight don't know what

58:00

happened to her just before she met the man

58:02

that would wind up defining how much of

58:04

her life did

58:07

you meet awesome no no

58:10

no , i think it's a

58:13

i would have gotten worse getting

58:15

a whatever you know and

58:17

like is i i

58:19

i mean boundaries

58:23

and i think i would have probably i

58:26

don't think probably would have been able to play her with

58:28

the kind of abandoned than i they

58:30

will feel i'm cultivate

58:33

in my process of researching and stuff

58:35

if i had met her because it would have felt they

58:37

get older and more than i did and

58:40

and i know that about me and was

58:42

in a given the opportunity to meet her because

58:44

she was in litigation but i do know

58:46

we we have one person network she's

58:49

friends with the i am the

58:51

in contact with any team would

58:53

give me some messages every once in awhile and she

58:55

did say she would love to have coffee

58:57

with me after the trial wow

59:01

now was like only movements

59:03

by a

59:07

wide eyed i'm glad eyed didn't have opportunity

59:09

because they they would have been hard decision

59:12

to me and

59:13

why would mean for me yeah i'm

59:16

here she obviously she had her are green

59:18

juice what did you have to like soothe

59:20

your voice after talking like her everyday

59:24

why drains a and ring you drank

59:26

the juice is that

59:28

you will game isn't available

59:30

to thank during the scenes between

59:32

his hands nothing i

59:35

got as low as could go i can assure you know it's

59:37

funny you all have our limits or

59:39

physical limitations and limitations

59:42

knew was never going to get her

59:44

free and frequent your have her is measured

59:46

and is she's like added one eighty

59:48

on some scale and

59:50

female speech and an

59:52

average female voice sits at like to

59:54

thirty or something like that and she

59:56

was at her lower say got a one eighty

59:58

six something like that and i so i

1:00:00

just knew it in beginning i would never gonna be that

1:00:03

low and if they had modular meet post

1:00:06

the down good sign that as this

1:00:08

is only my version of her voice could like i'm

1:00:10

singer to get beat b f been at night

1:00:12

and a and a dream we all work with the same person

1:00:15

and of the first thing first said

1:00:17

says kaplan or whispers with lake the

1:00:20

how i do this sake in a way where i can

1:00:22

saying that all the animals is

1:00:24

forever and she's like easy animals

1:00:27

really that easy figure out where

1:00:30

you live or didn't go and you know

1:00:32

i purchase or throughout there

1:00:34

you go hang out in some

1:00:35

so much of the character

1:00:37

and sometimes comes from vocal

1:00:40

place or from walking path from a gate pattern

1:00:42

you find your way in depending upon

1:00:45

i had like the the inverse issue

1:00:49

why you can find i'll be like the very

1:00:51

weird shannon the are like a you

1:00:53

are coloratura yeah but that's

1:00:55

not an , now

1:00:57

possess me now now

1:01:01

so like i say

1:01:04

i'm simply saying that guy down

1:01:06

trying to find these like weird bizarre

1:01:08

food i had my dad

1:01:11

different vocal teacher and i'd just

1:01:13

like i would just walk the reservoir trying to find

1:01:15

like odd places and then just do it repeatedly

1:01:18

for hours to days you could like on us like

1:01:20

you're like working up muscle you didn't

1:01:22

eat it like he didn't her ray i

1:01:26

would get cities i'm

1:01:29

going up every everything achieves right

1:01:31

the mean you know your your of like you're hot

1:01:34

year fedex or your and wardrobe

1:01:36

you're doing a different date can usually do

1:01:38

you're just doing different emotional pattern

1:01:40

hour energy flow that you usually do

1:01:42

i met it's it's hard it's hard

1:01:44

on your body it's hard on your heart right

1:01:46

holding all those fans but like what it would

1:01:49

enjoy the be able to do i like

1:01:51

it's so fun i do doesn't

1:01:53

say that i had this image and me of the walking

1:01:55

around reservoir like making all these

1:01:57

amazing little towns and nobody

1:01:59

and york is raising an eyebrow the

1:02:03

i target

1:02:06

, nano is an episode

1:02:09

maybe get his was the like it's okay

1:02:13

what it is yours good you

1:02:15

are so much deeper that's like she spoke

1:02:18

so the did that like how did

1:02:20

you they didn't like

1:02:22

his i just

1:02:24

a you know know everybody

1:02:26

else feels that when i was first starting

1:02:28

out i used put so much pressure on myself that

1:02:30

like the first time did something it had

1:02:32

be there and one of the things

1:02:34

that i loved about the longer i have acted

1:02:36

as i've learned that just cause you can't do something the first

1:02:39

time around doesn't mean can't keep working

1:02:41

towards it and so the first time i went

1:02:43

for it was you know nowhere near where

1:02:45

i wanted it to be are needed it survey

1:02:47

so i just work the great vocal

1:02:49

coach durham butler we just had that it and

1:02:51

kept adding kept at it and then

1:02:54

i don't know as it's do that your body for must

1:02:56

that your body forms around because you know

1:02:58

it's all about the , and

1:03:00

your pelvic floor and then the way that drop spent

1:03:02

at certain point it dropped

1:03:05

but i still felt like i was caught very

1:03:07

conscious of how i sounded and

1:03:09

have to give it's my costar when jarrod walked

1:03:11

in as adam and i heard to

1:03:13

be quality a voice that he

1:03:15

had found where he was doing something so

1:03:17

dynamic that with such ease

1:03:20

something clicked for me and there is

1:03:22

something about his vocal work that

1:03:24

informed minor things just because we were so

1:03:27

library they're playing characters were so united

1:03:29

and as soon when i heard the

1:03:31

quality is a of his voice my

1:03:34

boys came out knowledge that was kind richmond

1:03:36

but with the thing that turned for me was

1:03:38

because like can't just go around talking

1:03:40

like this enforcing it enough

1:03:42

force comes out for comes it was when

1:03:45

it found the break and the boys that

1:03:47

with when like the break gave me

1:03:49

so many more colors the

1:03:52

go around with so it wasn't just like

1:03:54

apis yes hello boys which i'm sure you had

1:03:56

your version of to figure letting

1:03:58

little that it a little bit of the sea the doesn't

1:04:00

feel like the heavy isn't

1:04:03

a technical it's citizens let

1:04:06

let the news there's music to at

1:04:08

that's really what it is so it's not just about

1:04:10

the accent it's the music

1:04:12

count of that all and none

1:04:16

yeah it's it's an there's also just

1:04:18

certain words that steady back

1:04:20

into the accent to thirty embedded

1:04:23

in away hello interview

1:04:25

people ask you to do the earlier like

1:04:27

after you're done to do their

1:04:30

feet it like to have fan yeah

1:04:33

i mean yeah

1:04:35

it's we it's was weird was weird the

1:04:38

delta especially dell these

1:04:40

accent i mean ozark was little bit

1:04:42

easier because it's just missouri accent

1:04:45

but don't the the whole

1:04:47

thing was it's consistently inconsistent

1:04:49

the our

1:04:52

know i'm an atheist claims i

1:04:54

remember the first really

1:04:56

likes heard her access i

1:04:58

was to sleep the right way

1:05:01

it like what is this and i was panicking

1:05:03

because i had to learn a quick

1:05:05

and you know but it

1:05:07

was sure at it should it sounded like

1:05:09

one of those like those international

1:05:12

people from europe as i guess you know grew

1:05:14

up in geneva and yes haven't i

1:05:16

in a bar there but wherever

1:05:19

it appeared international my

1:05:22

accent so i was kind of panicking

1:05:25

but that's how she really sounds like especially

1:05:27

in that period of time like inches

1:05:30

two thousand and fourteen when she

1:05:32

was doing all that stuff her accent thought

1:05:34

americanized in jail

1:05:37

but she really just she's actually

1:05:39

gifted and languages like she said six

1:05:42

seven languages so she

1:05:44

picks up you know very

1:05:46

quickly it was really really hard

1:05:49

on video people ask me people

1:05:51

always ask me to do like did there

1:05:53

the know if i don't know it's crazy on

1:05:55

can ask to do the entire interview intimate knowledge

1:06:00

i mean that you're paying

1:06:03

i don't know like must have to

1:06:05

the back and yeah i did

1:06:07

not agree

1:06:09

the enemy on hairbands it's gonna be alright

1:06:12

said they've ever yeah you guys a

1:06:14

voice i don't know how you guys with

1:06:16

that super low low voice

1:06:19

i was so it's when i say days when

1:06:21

you were when first came out that you guys

1:06:23

were they added like this is gonna be so

1:06:25

get so then you go to

1:06:27

everybody so brilliant the

1:06:29

really bad about all of your casting

1:06:31

announcements come to think of it like

1:06:33

it was like you know any like you see that you see that person

1:06:35

gonna play that part like oh and

1:06:38

betrayed and capital as the active

1:06:40

that have died the

1:06:42

baby to got so amazing that link

1:06:45

to disillusioned their heads they

1:06:47

were new and out there i've

1:06:49

always begin with your accents and

1:06:51

because and you even

1:06:53

its a really tragic moment a

1:06:55

in i dont remember what episode it

1:06:57

now maybe episode for on putting on the staging

1:06:59

the play the three sisters when she puts

1:07:01

on the russian a accent and

1:07:03

its just so i i

1:07:06

i kind of looked at that how you felt about but

1:07:08

felt like really a defining moment for

1:07:10

rebecca i

1:07:12

i think accent work is really hard i

1:07:15

don't have anybody here when she drama school but i'm

1:07:17

self taught and i have are evil

1:07:19

acts as you really vulnerable for me because

1:07:21

i don't have you know same training

1:07:23

that other like some of our contemporaries

1:07:26

have an so i'm insecure about

1:07:28

it and i'd

1:07:30

done accent mark the past that i wasn't happy

1:07:32

when and

1:07:35

that i know so i know what it's like to be out

1:07:37

there it is that line in the cfl that nina

1:07:39

has where you have no idea what it's like to be onstage

1:07:41

act at it and be acting and know

1:07:44

that you're acting so badly and

1:07:48

i'm not assuming anyone else here feels like that

1:07:50

as ever felt like that i maybe

1:07:52

know when it is so on

1:07:54

but where that sounds came

1:07:56

for so many were all of this is saying that you know

1:07:58

part of growing as fighting murray

1:08:00

and you can chew and taking fall choices and

1:08:02

also falling short of them and

1:08:05

what you do next kind of defines you

1:08:07

and you either your keep

1:08:09

going but if it starts few then it

1:08:11

means that you can be starts in matter

1:08:13

area of your life but the were

1:08:15

that boys came from was so this

1:08:17

was my first really big job after the pandemic

1:08:20

and i'm sure everybody blake

1:08:23

had their own version of best it was a lot like

1:08:25

you seen people for the first time you're

1:08:27

trying to get used to working undercover rules

1:08:29

everybody's masks so suddenly you're the only

1:08:31

case that's out there nobody was

1:08:33

vaccinated at that point because there wasn't a vaccination

1:08:36

it was just like there is so many the and also

1:08:38

i'm starting this new project never watching tv

1:08:40

before and it's amazing but it is different

1:08:42

than what i'm used to and i

1:08:45

i little emotional then

1:08:47

was sitting there and i'm like that's okay calm yourself

1:08:49

and think about the work that you have coming up just

1:08:51

focus focus and as if you have an accent

1:08:53

to do and you're doing track of what of the lines

1:08:55

and look it up and all sudden make

1:08:57

your they went

1:08:59

or even forget the emphasis doing

1:09:01

things

1:09:02

then i didn't basket as a thought it was

1:09:04

this silly sound and it made me

1:09:06

laugh it made me laugh

1:09:08

and i just went around talking like that until i

1:09:10

felt better and i just that okay

1:09:12

i'm going give this ago and they see what happens and

1:09:14

so out of nowhere i target big part that

1:09:16

i said something and she started to giggle and

1:09:18

i just went around to different people have a puddle expel

1:09:20

slide up to them and do the voice and they would start

1:09:22

laughing and i'm like okay whatever

1:09:24

happens you are going to make people laugh people laugh

1:09:27

accent so everything's gonna you have

1:09:29

that to hang your hat on

1:09:30

well either that was kind of the whole point there

1:09:32

so that emmy for us and michelle pfeiffer

1:09:34

when we did a the round table for

1:09:37

the first lady she's and when are you course

1:09:39

she said about playing a real person said it's

1:09:41

it's very very weighty and it's with you all

1:09:43

time every choice you make and you just want to

1:09:45

honor that person you're playing

1:09:47

you want to be as authentic as possible knowing that there will

1:09:49

be times where you're not and you can't

1:09:52

be i'm never doing it

1:09:54

again okay so some of your kind of hundreds some

1:09:56

of that stuff but it's that very last line i'm

1:09:58

never doing it again no everyone's

1:10:00

experience different on that are there any

1:10:02

aspect of that that you would relate to with any

1:10:04

of you show of hands not care

1:10:06

to play real person ever again

1:10:08

i mean i definitely need a break the

1:10:11

, cigarette with

1:10:14

, like only wanna play real be both

1:10:16

feel like i'm not and have an and

1:10:19

having as keep falling out dreams

1:10:22

you're not a lawyer everything

1:10:24

about it , and

1:10:26

what i'm sure i'm i'm sure do think

1:10:28

it's tied to the fact that it's my first job

1:10:30

after playing with his own

1:10:32

they kick it up again sense

1:10:35

of this character

1:10:37

my to give some real and

1:10:39

now this point i'm like i'm l l

1:10:41

anybody just to say and name and

1:10:43

i'll go study that first thing because i'm just like i

1:10:45

don't i think i think us so so

1:10:48

fine and

1:10:50

the air better blue pants and

1:10:52

other my first and hello sir

1:10:54

and yeah

1:10:56

the tricky okay with job that amanda now you're doing

1:10:58

has were playing characters that are kind

1:11:00

of loosely inspired by people but not

1:11:03

really at all them so with

1:11:05

us at least for me i i asked

1:11:07

if we didn't do a lot of research

1:11:09

because i just wanted to go to the page and

1:11:11

figure out who they were on the page because they don't

1:11:13

have their name they don't have their story

1:11:15

in their life they're not on the same part the country

1:11:17

and and and it's not it's not the same

1:11:20

and so i was like okay this is a character

1:11:22

for me this is not this and

1:11:24

i got i got freedom and you

1:11:26

know maybe help me out maybe

1:11:29

maybe you need to go back your dream the

1:11:32

thing there's something so mine in those keys

1:11:35

yeah just click on there have

1:11:37

no they depart like that only you

1:11:40

know your

1:11:43

daughter through symbolically losing

1:11:47

i i feel like maybe like just don't

1:11:49

know my character well enough so it's really just about

1:11:51

me and simple

1:11:52

he will need is a groups may i can

1:11:54

be nicer , salad

1:11:57

leaves will

1:11:59

give you up

1:12:00

we'll give a private zoom link after the me as a

1:12:02

yeah have little break down here

1:12:05

after a visit the

1:12:07

were all i didn't

1:12:09

say i mean from

1:12:10

watching a it's just these are all a massive

1:12:12

challenges i'm you was for me

1:12:14

i imagine you know n n and

1:12:17

and guess you know or suspect would

1:12:19

you do you ask her it

1:12:21

wouldn't be that i am beginning to what

1:12:23

where'd you go from here now i

1:12:25

have writers are amazing and an

1:12:28

outlaw this is all worked with and

1:12:30

are you know would kill to work with so

1:12:32

many these incredible right as you can create

1:12:34

these characters so

1:12:37

we on complicated

1:12:39

and and an interesting and complex

1:12:41

that i mean real people

1:12:44

there's just it just never ends with

1:12:46

the amount of of substance

1:12:48

and dichotomy and i'm

1:12:52

with you i'm like what now to

1:12:54

, the santa's elves

1:12:58

and billie life and lastly mountains

1:13:01

life mountains suspect the

1:13:02

l i gotta ask you quickly the

1:13:05

the glee seen where

1:13:07

she is in the mirror okay weren't real

1:13:09

already fan of show did you remember that did you go

1:13:11

back and watch that a lot to get down

1:13:13

that rachel berry delivery

1:13:17

an eye on it

1:13:18

you know i never really i mean i simply

1:13:20

but not i was it's bleak like

1:13:22

in i'm on the show was i would say

1:13:24

so i did and that wasn't

1:13:26

aware of the things that really got me

1:13:28

inside her to understand was

1:13:31

her obsession with pop culture

1:13:33

and the why a world

1:13:35

and glee and it was really

1:13:37

an issue is very on very much the

1:13:39

loner in high school and in her life

1:13:42

and think she sought out those books and

1:13:44

doing a particular to be

1:13:47

the star of her own shovel

1:13:49

and done you know oddly enough it

1:13:51

definitely emulates what was happening i'm

1:13:53

in her real life with we

1:13:55

we're michelle morning for real life boyfriend

1:13:57

was still freaks warning stand on

1:14:00

the very very men and think we all have the

1:14:02

scenes right that like oh

1:14:04

god like you're looking on schedule and you're like

1:14:07

this in coming up you know that was the into the pilot

1:14:09

the pilot the pilot i was like okay

1:14:11

this is the scene you know he doesn't know me

1:14:14

as these are emotionally are gonna be hard

1:14:16

and your your pick side i always

1:14:18

get it's like not have like you're excited

1:14:20

but your does

1:14:21

after reading that day but then i stopped

1:14:23

myself when i'm like well you know after

1:14:26

one day comes another day so

1:14:28

that past and lead in the passed

1:14:31

one day ew will done the scene youll wake

1:14:33

and scene will be done um

1:14:35

and it was that moment and and

1:14:37

yeah i watched it

1:14:39

would be kind of obviously play a character

1:14:42

and not wanting to be a character

1:14:44

and or mimic the

1:14:45

character by getting her mannerisms down

1:14:47

but along with this scene

1:14:49

where i'm literally the

1:14:51

gestures and every single time

1:14:54

you know rachel berry

1:14:56

would close your eyes and everyone

1:14:59

she would get emotional get emotional to match

1:15:01

at exactly so it was

1:15:03

very technical know they have like the little notepad

1:15:05

of the

1:15:06

voted out my would still myself i

1:15:09

get night doing the make you feel

1:15:11

my love and like knowing where

1:15:13

i would need to get emotional at the moment

1:15:16

said she has like tears fall and then

1:15:18

i would watch myself that next to the

1:15:20

computer screen of her doing it so we could like

1:15:23

nearly as i think the earring this

1:15:25

of that of it being so specific

1:15:27

and it's mimicking exactly is what

1:15:29

wanted to pinpoint says it's kind

1:15:31

of the turning point the series where you start

1:15:33

questioning my characters motives

1:15:35

were it really someone mimicking

1:15:37

greece and what you the really

1:15:40

mps she can't really grief herself

1:15:42

the through character the

1:15:44

learning how to mourn and also kind

1:15:46

of getting enjoyment in

1:15:48

math and the enjoyment of the attention

1:15:50

and so i just knew that that was you

1:15:52

know that was one of the seems it was like

1:15:55

oh gosh how we didn't like for a

1:15:57

reason and they use like the first take like why

1:15:59

did like do that

1:16:00

it already read

1:16:02

on the lake but it's just dumb

1:16:05

and the happy for it to be to be

1:16:07

it

1:16:07

to done well you're right it was very eerie

1:16:09

am i have one last question for the group quickly just

1:16:11

got did you have to on this

1:16:14

after this guy named justin timberlake

1:16:16

did have to twist as aren't allowed to get him to

1:16:18

portray this police investigator and put on that mustache

1:16:20

oh no that was all

1:16:23

him she that was his idea

1:16:25

only his idea i just

1:16:27

thought he was kidding i thought oh that's cute

1:16:29

say thanks to making joke about what it's feel

1:16:31

my little scavo and now

1:16:33

he he

1:16:36

read the script and said i see

1:16:38

this way in disguise a performer

1:16:40

i get it he he

1:16:43

he sees right through this

1:16:45

woman and he's like sort of her biggest

1:16:48

adversary and i

1:16:50

want to play the part that i cannot pay

1:16:52

you i cannot pay it

1:16:54

it's going be added as zero and

1:16:56

is while i just i want be paid in my prosthetic

1:16:59

belly and my my wig

1:17:01

as authentic authentic that we

1:17:03

the know we just call the million people as fast as possible

1:17:06

before they decided to change his mind and

1:17:08

them he played with all him

1:17:10

early was that love that and love that melanie

1:17:12

melanie man i'm jason ritter

1:17:15

was in their troops are here we go the last question

1:17:17

for the group ah you know if this ah

1:17:19

the year has taught us anything it is that

1:17:21

there is seemingly no shortage of roles

1:17:23

in it eight worked out for all of you

1:17:25

are and i think you're perfectly cast and these but

1:17:27

less for second saying

1:17:30

had you not been this role

1:17:32

or what what who else here would you

1:17:34

have loved to have maybe even just

1:17:36

ride their character like

1:17:38

maybe do you have little role envy we

1:17:40

can make quilts yeah within the school

1:17:43

oh i wanted i

1:17:45

mean i'd try amanda's

1:17:47

on i think we got we got

1:17:49

the eyes me up with conrad said

1:17:52

they man in the back

1:17:55

up little right

1:17:58

here yeah

1:18:01

alberto i would go emmy

1:18:03

for sir any all day long

1:18:06

and or goodbye know i think i go

1:18:08

be me yeah the

1:18:10

have lot lotta heart for that woman

1:18:12

after saw her ted talk was like

1:18:15

well i'm sorry in i am

1:18:17

fully and on monica i love her

1:18:19

and you didn't sector terrific job think

1:18:21

the same really do it monica

1:18:25

the only one i got yeah adam

1:18:28

eve then

1:18:29

what i'm obsessed with value

1:18:31

in scans i've been in haskell jessica

1:18:34

because then heard was in that

1:18:36

same see him i

1:18:38

mean i waited years waiting for

1:18:40

and waiting or and you were so brilliant

1:18:43

in that role i can i'm also over

1:18:45

again can ,

1:18:47

at melanie i think would be like like

1:18:49

try not to see dreamy

1:18:52

i'm a spend with spend speech

1:18:54

stream issues amazing to see

1:18:58

so still she doesn't

1:19:00

move it's unbelievable

1:19:02

i just watch her and so

1:19:04

many things are happening she so powerful and she

1:19:07

has not moved a muscle to

1:19:10

the dreamer period the

1:19:12

replay not real different but i would

1:19:14

definitely go for julius

1:19:18

why would why you know about

1:19:26

matthew the everywhere and i have player

1:19:28

all day long in

1:19:30

a really i really think we should

1:19:32

be me to it he be ritual i love a

1:19:34

big european accent another

1:19:37

has officially my family

1:19:39

i already knew

1:19:42

the and i can't even tell you

1:19:44

like i love her but i also by the

1:19:46

end of it was so exhausted

1:19:48

playing hurling seen her for so long

1:19:51

of his dislike this girl

1:19:53

like

1:19:54

i can see what include it's it's away

1:19:56

what about i'm sorry what about

1:19:58

if there was season q for

1:20:01

anadolu anybody any

1:20:03

of you or your characters yeah included get

1:20:05

have had says

1:20:07

yeah why i don't know what their how

1:20:10

are you the i

1:20:13

would like a special and they're like okay

1:20:15

you get play the character for tomorrow smith at

1:20:17

this hour and he says

1:20:20

, it is our fault

1:20:22

as they are in jail

1:20:24

that season do oh my god

1:20:26

what have we all played are parts but that's the

1:20:28

movie set a

1:20:32

world we go into amanda unloaded

1:20:34

he'd fall out for were all those character

1:20:37

is each other in washington liege fever

1:20:39

dream and stance anger on

1:20:41

the same space then

1:20:45

or maybe a family a lawyer well

1:20:49

that monica ones yeah it

1:20:53

i do something with some think as he said something

1:20:56

really he said something great and

1:20:58

i really wanted to be true that

1:21:00

there's no shortage of great roles for women that

1:21:02

that's just not true across the board for everybody

1:21:04

so i just wanna say that there is

1:21:06

a really promising up taking great roles

1:21:08

for women but we we have really part ago

1:21:11

and and i would encourage anybody watching

1:21:13

this to do whatever you can to level up playing too

1:21:15

because they didn't area we

1:21:18

some producers in the room here though

1:21:21

and no pressure jessica i'm sure if

1:21:23

it isn't well isn't it goes

1:21:25

really has been a great pleasure and

1:21:27

cannot think all you enough for your time

1:21:29

congratulations on all this work i know some of you mention

1:21:31

they they were exhausting and felt fatigue

1:21:33

but i think it's just is a sign of

1:21:36

truly a job well done

1:21:38

so progress all of you and thank so much

1:21:40

for joining us

1:21:45

i i still kind of can't get

1:21:47

over that that entire thing

1:21:49

it was real i was real pinch me moment

1:21:51

having all of them together and by the way i do

1:21:53

want to ah i wanna

1:21:55

thank anne hathaway for work on it you know crafting

1:21:58

and correcting me and clarifying there the

1:22:00

and that's a while there are a

1:22:02

lot of great rolls out there are there aren't enough

1:22:05

roles for every one arm

1:22:07

i i i , it's even

1:22:10

kind of clear based on who we

1:22:12

had for this that there is only one woman of color

1:22:14

because there weren't that many

1:22:16

roles in the limited anthology

1:22:18

series tv movie category where

1:22:20

there were women of color so she

1:22:22

she's absolutely right there decision makers out

1:22:24

there hopefully listening right here that

1:22:27

you know the stories exist so so

1:22:29

no reason i mean there are reasons

1:22:31

to not greenlight certain stories persisted

1:22:33

script not good knock on the stuff but you know

1:22:36

to me in the these stories exist the the

1:22:38

actresses exist the filmmakers

1:22:40

exist the writers the and

1:22:42

so all of that can now we

1:22:44

can see change quite easily absolutely

1:22:47

well and know this is why like it's easy for people

1:22:50

do we do jared kind of like you talk

1:22:52

about how like do there's so much television

1:22:54

and you know the kind of them cv phraseology

1:22:57

the came about few years ago and stuff but it's

1:23:00

the thing that we would miss if

1:23:02

like you know tv real monopolized

1:23:04

and they were like know three the news which sometimes

1:23:06

worry is what's gonna happen some point is

1:23:09

that like you even now when there is

1:23:11

so much stuff been made you know can

1:23:13

feel as if you know is that stuff also

1:23:15

kind of going and just one or two directions and

1:23:17

you know water , in

1:23:19

this time of abundance

1:23:22

and have had seeking out and like finding shows

1:23:24

that get to explore cultures

1:23:27

are aspects of our country where the world that

1:23:29

you know whenever explored back the couldn't the have three

1:23:31

them were days but you know but azores work to be done

1:23:33

as i think that's deficit amazing put me

1:23:36

yeah so again think our for that ah

1:23:38

by the way i have to

1:23:40

say here that right

1:23:43

after we finished recording

1:23:45

of his roundtable ah

1:23:48

news broke that julia garner

1:23:50

is in talks or has

1:23:52

essentially been cast like pretty much

1:23:54

the contract have been signed are close to it's

1:23:56

that she's going to be playing madonna playing the

1:23:58

official madonna by pig and let

1:24:01

me tell ya if that had broken an

1:24:03

hour earlier we would have been having

1:24:05

a very different discussion on that roundtable but

1:24:07

arms with when his thoughts on that because julia

1:24:09

garnered to me is like these

1:24:11

kind of chameleon it and her

1:24:13

abilities

1:24:15

oh yeah word chameleon at at the if

1:24:17

you not everyone is it it actually is

1:24:19

and you know in fairness that exact

1:24:22

skill , that she has is great

1:24:24

for playing madonna like i don't know

1:24:27

how much the biopic covering but you know there's

1:24:29

a pop culture icon it was cause we kind of like

1:24:31

changing herself and they even her when she was

1:24:33

like at the height of her fame for

1:24:35

like you know that will did it has

1:24:37

to be but like you know for certainly the first twenty

1:24:39

plus year period of ever korea

1:24:42

i'm kind constantly kind of adopted at time

1:24:44

so i mean you know i'm i'm in for whatever giulia

1:24:46

[unk] owner wants to do but like the

1:24:48

, was to play you know one of the

1:24:51

three four most famous people of the

1:24:53

last fifty years this is the right person for

1:24:55

her play for sure sure

1:24:57

per cent yeah i i think they nail that casting

1:24:59

a assuming hoping that that is a

1:25:01

in fact a locked thing and she has

1:25:03

to emmys a this could

1:25:05

maybe be a potential for an

1:25:07

oscar so this may be really the beginning

1:25:10

or or you know further extending

1:25:12

her i'm journey toward

1:25:14

being and he got don't know i'm i'm jumping way ahead

1:25:16

by and like for the movies you could potentially

1:25:19

single original song that's that's just

1:25:21

little that's good potential for a grammy

1:25:23

and then laying is t is that's

1:25:25

true if she if she performs that yeah she could win

1:25:27

the grammy even she helps right it but

1:25:29

i dunno we're we're going to big places for julia

1:25:32

which hopefully she appreciates but i'm yeah

1:25:34

she's fantastic i'm anyway speaking a

1:25:36

fantastic darren you are and thank you so much

1:25:38

for joining me here this week always a

1:25:40

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