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If you've ever wondered how plants get to the

1:15

nursery that you go to to purchase them,

1:17

like your local spot, well, this might be

1:19

the episode for you. We have Ryan McAninny

1:22

back on the show. He's

1:24

a fifth generation family member leading

1:26

marketing at Bailey Nurseries, which is

1:29

a wholesale nursery. And maybe we

1:31

start there, Ryan, like what's a

1:33

wholesale nursery? Yeah,

1:35

we're like the company behind the brand that

1:37

you love. It's like the Procter and Gamble.

1:40

Like you might know P&G, but you probably

1:42

know their brands a lot better. It's the

1:45

same for us. We're like where the plants

1:47

start. So anything from

1:49

like propagation or tissue culture and starting with those

1:51

really baby plants, getting them to the state where

1:53

they're in a container like you would buy at

1:55

a garden center. So we're that sort of behind

1:58

the scenes. of

2:00

the scenes effort to get everything started. So

2:02

does that mean, and these wholesale nurseries

2:04

will specialize, right, typically in flowers,

2:07

vegetables, trees, et cetera, or are you

2:09

guys more across the spectrum? Yeah,

2:12

a lot of companies, a lot

2:14

of wholesalers will have a pretty

2:16

specific focus. We are

2:20

one of the crazy few that kind of do a lot. We

2:23

really focus in perennials, shrubs,

2:25

and trees, but we do

2:27

everything from the small plants

2:29

and the tissue culture liners,

2:32

to container plants, to

2:34

bare root trees and shrubs.

2:37

So we're kind of all across the board, but

2:39

we don't do annuals. We don't do a ton

2:41

of edibles, other than we do like ton

2:44

of fruit trees, and

2:46

some strawberries, asparagus, those

2:48

sort of veggie fruits, but it's not totally

2:50

in our wheelhouse, but gotta have a little

2:52

fun in all of them. And we try

2:54

and be a good resource for

2:56

our customers all across North America, so try and

2:58

get them as much as they can while

3:01

still providing the best quality product

3:03

within our expertise. Sure. Now,

3:06

so maybe talk me through this. I

3:08

mean, I know that you have this

3:10

eclipse big leaf hydrangea that's kind of

3:12

the thing right now. And if

3:15

you're a nursery man trying to produce

3:17

this, I'd love to get

3:19

nerdy about just the growing of it. How do

3:22

you scale something like that up to make ostensibly,

3:25

like, I don't even know how many, like millions of

3:27

them, I don't know. Yeah,

3:29

and every plant has a little bit

3:31

of a different recipe in how you

3:33

grow it up. But part of what

3:36

we do in our testing is like,

3:38

can we replicate this and keep the,

3:40

whatever makes that plant unique, can we

3:43

keep that trait? But it all

3:45

starts with one. And whether it's tissue

3:47

culture where you can replicate really quickly,

3:49

or softwood or hardwood cuttings,

3:51

depending on the plant, it

3:55

grows exponentially, but you start at one very

3:57

basic number. And so We've

3:59

got multiple. Farms all around the country that

4:01

allow us to have a like a diversity

4:03

in our climate so we can grow. A

4:06

lot better. In Oregon we have a lot

4:08

longer growing season we do here Minnesota but

4:10

that's what allows us to scale to and

4:12

having different size plants. you know from a

4:15

little cutting all the way up two or

4:17

three five seven ten gallon shrub were able

4:19

to than start. Propagating. A

4:21

lot more offer some those big plans but it takes

4:23

us a long time to be able to bring plan

4:25

to market. Can take his ten years to bring a

4:28

new plant in and a lot of that is is

4:30

that. Propagation. Stock build up. As

4:33

the piece that I think a lot of

4:35

people myself included. Don't. Don't really

4:37

desk when you look at the plant world and

4:39

you look at new varieties. I know later this

4:41

week we're gonna talk about how from this new

4:43

varieties are. Are. Actually made.

4:46

Even when you make one, you have to

4:49

get enough of the stock to create more

4:51

of it so that you can create more

4:53

of it and even death can take a

4:55

lot of time depending on what the particular

4:58

species of plants might be easier. Let's say

5:00

with an annual as your something that would

5:02

write with yeah I got a hydrangea perhaps

5:04

or of certainly fruit tree with entity. Years

5:07

and years and years I was referenced

5:09

the story of the Clancy Potato which

5:11

we do sell ad personal interests. Now

5:14

I'm but it's out of our a

5:16

producer and Page of Seeds produces and

5:18

Sky Peter and I met him and

5:20

he's like it's taken me twenty years

5:22

next month. Crazy. Yeah, it's like Trip

5:25

Lloyds Genetics on the potato and eighty

5:27

they can't. Something about the way those

5:29

two nights where it was. I'm not.

5:32

Knowledgeable, Enough to dirt directly explain,

5:34

but basically something like making get

5:36

it consistent with in a population

5:38

of potatoes but they can't say

5:40

that like every potential seat is

5:42

the exact same genetically. But.

5:44

It's close enough and stable enough that they can

5:47

call it a variety. Which

5:49

is fascinating and in a huge achievement even

5:51

be able to grow potato from interested in

5:53

the first place. Yeah well in like really

5:55

behind the scenes, really thinking about how do

5:58

you make this a business model that. The

6:00

work right For someone. it's introducing a

6:02

new plant. There's a lot of time,

6:04

effort and money because and do it

6:06

in So to be able to scale

6:08

it and understand what the demand is

6:10

gonna look like they can, We sell

6:12

enough of these to make it even

6:14

worth introducing is is really hard and

6:16

part of that just goes into how

6:18

can we propagate this? How can how

6:20

quickly can we get it to scale

6:22

But also make sure that it's. The

6:25

right genetics than it is a high

6:27

enough quality that people are going to

6:29

be really interested in it. Yeah because

6:31

if you miss it's a really painful

6:33

mess it up. Yet a good as

6:35

long as I'm sure you guys have

6:37

stories about that as as you from

6:39

a fifth generation of of Billie Nursery

6:41

so result Whether it's more, we're talking

6:43

about how new plant varieties are made

6:45

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