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This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost
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Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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We've had the unique opportunity here in the Almost
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Famous podcast to have some voices,
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some wise voices, some voices who have been through
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the Bachelor franchise for a bit share
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their thoughts on the recent announcement of
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the Golden Bachelor, Gary
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and his wife Teresa's divorce.
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So I was going to jump in for a second and
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kind of share my thoughts. It's this
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was this was a
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difficult announcement. I think for so
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many of us to kind of understand. That's why
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it's everywhere if you google this
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divorce. All the
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major media
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companies and journalists are covering
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this. I think we're
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shocked, because we're saddened. I'm
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shocked. I guess I can speak for myself personally,
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because I really believe the two
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of them we're gonna make it. For
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multiple reasons. Let me touch on those.
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One. I thought their age was
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going to allow them kind of this next chapter
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in life, and they were really going to invest
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during this next chapter into this new
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love and this new relationship they found. Quite
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honestly, this could come off wrong.
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I didn't think there was enough time to
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necessarily have major
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disagreements, major
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disagreements, especially ending in a separation.
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I also thought they were gonna have a lot of fun together. Obviously
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both of them have done very well in their life.
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From all we know, they're both financially
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sustainable, and so they had
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a ton of opportunity to go
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off and to travel, or to
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spend time on the lakes, or to
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go out to dinners and to just enjoy
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kind of this next chapter. And
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so for me, I took all
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those into consideration without knowing the two of them
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very personally, been
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able to meet him a few times, and thought this
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could be something special.
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Obviously, now shockingly
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they are announcing that they're going to divorce. I
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also think the fans here
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are a little bit confused because
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we don't have a lot of information. As so many
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who have came on here now the podcast today
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and been interviewed, they've shared that we
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just don't know enough. Yeah.
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I believe it was Trista who said that, you
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know, if love truly
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exists, then you can figure the rest
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out. So many
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of us who listen to this, who have been in a committed
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relationship or in some type
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of relationship that
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we've had to make tough decisions for understand
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that the decisions are tough still, yes, but
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they're going to get made because there's
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love behind them. So
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if it's just a matter of where you move
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and what family you're closer to, then
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I would say this is confusing,
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especially because Gary, yes, has family
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fairly close, but he's
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they still have to drive. I mean, I believe
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he has some children
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that are you know, five plus hours
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away. That's you
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know, a flight from
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the East Coast to Indiana.
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I and you're retired. I guess
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I should say that he's retired, and so there's
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time to fly, there's time to travel. I've
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lived in Colorado,
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my family's lived in Indiana for
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the past eleven years, and
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I don't see them, maybe as regularly
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as I would if I lived
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in the same hometown or within an hour's drive,
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But I see them often. My
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dad just retired last year, and
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before that, you know, there was weeks
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every year that I would go home, or there was weeks
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that they would come here. There
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was flexibility in that, and so I
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never have felt like I
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cannot see my family when I desire to see
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them or when they desire to see me. And spend time
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with Jessica and I and
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so I want to believe their excuse.
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I do. I mean, I think their reasoning
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that it was hard to kind of figure out where they're going to be for their
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family is fair, but I
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don't believe it's everything. And honestly,
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I don't know if they owe us everything in
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the explanation of why they're getting divorce. I
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don't know if that's really my business or any
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of our businesses. But we are invested
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in their love stories, so we do want to
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know what happened here. And
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I think the question of what happened here for me is
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also confusing because their love story brought so
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many people hope. I
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got to do a segment with Gary that was never shown
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on television, but we kind of did the watch party segment
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where we went on a bus and stopped
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in at people's homes and talk to
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people about what they're experiencing watching The Golden
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and there were tears, there
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was hope, there was joy, There was
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Hey, if you can do it, Gary, I want to do it
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too. There was this belief that
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no matter what age you were, that love
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could still exist and could still be found
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and I'm
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worried, or I guess I'm concerned,
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or I guess I know that their divorce so
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quickly after getting married will probably
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make people take a step back. But here's the
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truth to it. I still believe what they showed
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on television, and
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what so many of them showed on television, so
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many of the contestants, is that love
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can still be found no matter what
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age you are at. I
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don't want that to be forgotten here. I think that's
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where this whole thing gets so hard for me, because
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I know that so many people really
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truly were invested into their
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love story and invested into this story
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in general, and I don't want people
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to forget that, Yes, loves can still be found.
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If you talk to any of the women who
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came off the show, they believe
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in love more than ever. In fact, I'll
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mention Susan and Kathy here. I've
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gotten to speak with them multiple times, and
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as recently as two weeks ago. Kind
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of heard some rumblings at that time
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that things were not good for Gary
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and Teresa, and
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so we got to have a conversation about what
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did the show teach you? And
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both of them said that it taught them that love
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can still be found, that this next chapter of
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life can be the most exciting chapter
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yet for them. And so if you're invested
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into their love stories, if you're invested into
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this separation and this divorce that
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they're entering into, please do
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not forget that love
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can still be found no matter what age
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you are in, that the
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next chapter can be the best chapter
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in your story, in your life.
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I also think we should look here now. Maybe
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you know the main characters of the
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Golden Bachelor was Gary and Teresa
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because they were obviously the ones who got married national
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television. Gary was the lead,
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Teresa was obviously the one that he
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chose and that she chose him at the end. But
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I think now the way
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I'm seeing it is it kind of levels the playing
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field a little bit to where the main
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characters are everybody that was on the show, These
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women who have came off of The Golden Bachelor
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and are now representing all
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new things. They're representing
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wisdom, they're representing
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the kind of this newfound fame and how to handle
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it when you have so much experience
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in life so that you don't get sucked up. And maybe
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the relevancy of it all
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but you just enjoy the ride. I'm
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learning from them, and I think we now we all can. I
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think the cool part would be as we watch the
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contestants now hopefully
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go out and date and go out and explore
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new relationships, and then we move on to now the
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Golden Bachelorette, we can
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start to we can continue to learn
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from them and continue to invest into their
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stories and continue to believe that something
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good is in the future for all
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of them.
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Now, I kind of want to close here by
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by also saying what is by talking
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about what like what I believe the future of
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the Golden Show is. I don't
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think this derails
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it. I do think the
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divorce makes
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us take a step back and
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maybe have a little bit of hesitancy
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when we watch the Golden Show and we're kind of waiting
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to see if there's actually love that is going
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to be found, and what the wedding looks like, what
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the commitment looks like, what these new relationships
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will look like, because I think you build
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off of what your first
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example is. For example,
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Tristan Ryan from The Bachelorette, we
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got to see their love story unfold, and now twenty
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plus years later, they're still together and they
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have kids, and we now
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believed in The Bachelor and The Bachelor
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I think in large part because we saw
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their commitment to each other and
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we saw what came from that, and
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so I do think now there'll be more hesitancy.
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But I also believe that the Golden
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Show can still be really great,
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and I think success is
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still going to come from so many couples,
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and I'm still going to be invested now
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as much as I was before. I
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am confused with all of this. Why they got married
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so quickly. I mean, I think there's some
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financial benefits from that. I
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do believe they at the time believe this was
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the right thing to do, that this was going to
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be a relationship with that lasts. I don't think
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either of them were entering into that marriage being like, hey, we'll
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get married, but yeah, a couple months later, like it doesn't really
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matter, we can separate. I don't think either
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of them were things that, but I do believe
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coming off the high of the show, coming
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off the experience of the show, coming
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off the press tours, getting
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to travel together, having this kind
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of upour honeymoon moment right after
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the show probably made them feel,
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yeah, this is amazing, Let's get married.
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I just never think that's smart.
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If you go back into my experience,
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obviously, there was some hesitancy coming right out of the show
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to get married right away. If you see Joey and Kelsey
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season obviously, Joey and Kelsey were talking about, Hey,
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we'll have a long engagement. You have to kind of
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redate to kind
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of re establish a foundation outside of the
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show, because the show, once it's over,
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it's over, and you go
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back to regular life. The show
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moves on to the next lead, to the next
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season, and you move on to whatever
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the next chapter holds, and so you have to redate,
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re establish Jojo and Jordan are a great example
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of that. Matt and Rachel are a great example
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of that. So many of the healthy
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couples we see today have re establish
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a foundation outside of the show, and I
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don't think Gary and Teresa ever gave it time
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to do that. I think they got
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wrapped up in the whole thing too quickly,
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which honestly is a little surprising because
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I thought they would go about this
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whole thing very differently than any couples
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we've seen in the past. All
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Right, So those are my thoughts I'm
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sad. I wish
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divorce wasn't their best option or
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the option they felt like was necessary. Maybe it's
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a better way to say that. I wish they could
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have worked through some things. I wish they would
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have given it some more time to work through some things.
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Maybe it was just getting to a place where they knew
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this was going nowhere good fast, and so
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they had to get out, both of them. I don't
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know. We don't know enough. Again, from
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everything I've read and in the interview, the only
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really reasoning for this is they just
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couldn't figure out the family dynamics.
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I don't think I'm satisfied with that. I know
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there's more, but as I said earlier,
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I don't know if I'm owed anymore. So
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it comes from a place of assumption. I
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just wish divorce was not the option they
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felt like was necessary at this time.
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I wish that two of them could have found something
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beautiful together. I was wishing and
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hoping that the Golden Bachelor was
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going to lead to an amazing love story that
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we'd be able to celebrate for years to come.
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But we're not. And so now we
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move on and we hope that the next season
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works and we hope that the contestants find
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love again. And we hope that Gary and Teresa can find love
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again because I know and I do believe
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both of them desired it.
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Love is a beautiful thing when
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it's at its best. This show is about love. When it's
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at its worst, it's about
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drama. And
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so the Golden Bachelor, as we continue,
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I hope, continues to be about love and
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we don't lose sight of
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the incredible life change that
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so many on the show and
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viewers of the show have had because
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they've witnessed people later
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in life make
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commitments to try to find love again. So
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we watch hopeful Now. I
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watch with a little hesitancy, but
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I still have a lot of anticipation, excitement
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and anticipation towards the next season of
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The Golden Bachelorette and
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hoping hey that love truly
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will be found.
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