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Welcome to Car Talk on National Public Radio

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and as click and Clack The Topic brothers

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and we're broadcasting this week. From the overwhelming

0:41

weight of evidence division here, cards aren't was

0:43

more. Do we have the vision? Actually,

0:47

I think this was should be called.

0:49

it takes one to no one division.

0:51

Yeah, this is a story which I

0:53

read an eye you a local paper

0:55

which I won't mention the name of.

0:57

Okay, I got it. Would divulge the

0:59

identities perhaps of the people involved, which

1:01

is unnecessary to the paper, but evidently

1:03

they were a couple. Of police officers

1:06

who were officers who in

1:08

this town were claiming harassment

1:10

by this superior officer the

1:12

sergeant and they'll sue them

1:14

actually saw them and they

1:16

that they had all kinds

1:18

of. Evidence. About harassment

1:20

and about racism and all

1:22

kinds of things. And they

1:25

offered as evidence for the

1:27

harassment they were getting. Phone.

1:29

Calls in the middle of the night. I guess

1:32

this is a husband and wife or something. They

1:34

were getting phone calls in the middle of

1:36

the night and people would call to am. Nor.

1:39

Would say anything. Hang up. So. This

1:41

guy goes out and buys them one of

1:43

those caller id things. He

1:46

offers as evidence the following. He

1:49

traces the call. With.

1:51

His caller id thing. Or. In the

1:53

get the number. And. I as evidence

1:55

he says i know it was this

1:57

guy. Because. I traced the.

2:00

Falls. To. The phone

2:02

booth outside the don't condone ssssss

2:04

a suspect that so have made

2:06

has I didn't make herself as

2:08

a self self may I didn't

2:11

make it up. assess the South

2:13

America and one eleven know how

2:15

he would do it. Reminds

2:19

me of the time are good. Proud job!

2:21

The flu this year was getting similar phone

2:23

calls or two or three o'clock in the

2:26

first. This decided to change his phone number.

2:29

And he was getting cause sometimes that would

2:31

be no one on the line. He did

2:33

stumble out of bed, go to the phone

2:35

which was in the garage and he dads

2:37

are it ended be nobody they are More

2:39

often than not it was somebody speaking Spanish

2:41

a sister said so he decided. Abruptly

2:43

the changes on changes blowing those in

2:45

do not have a completely enlisted and his

2:48

wife calls me at work that morning.

2:50

The. Day of the chase to tell me. That.

2:52

The numbers been changed. So. He

2:54

gets home from work at three thirty. And

2:57

I have the new number. And. I call him

2:59

that he's not expecting a phone call because not a soul

3:01

in the world. Knows. His new

3:03

not have a. Hatchet And

3:05

would he picks up the phone is as long

3:07

as say something like that by the rigours of

3:09

that. I

3:12

didn't see. It as. A

3:17

result of that, If

3:22

you want to call, so the question of

3:24

how it's just a harasser Some your local

3:26

Dunkin Donuts are phone numbers one eight hundred

3:28

three, three to nine to eight seven Hello

3:30

your on card zoc Hello. Yes, Was

3:32

this Autumn Leaves Autumn

3:35

Leaves please! Saddam. Autumn

3:39

or com O E S.

3:41

L. Eat. Autumn.

3:44

Leaves. Early

3:46

Really really well as the professor

3:49

foreclosed. You say it like like

3:51

a long suffering with a way

3:53

of from autumn. I'm from

3:56

Douglas, Mass. Douglas.

3:58

That would be like list of was never. Heard

4:00

of it. It's near western. Oh.

4:02

Douglas. Near Worcester.

4:05

So Autumn is your first name yes

4:07

and leads the. League. Not Leaves

4:09

leaves no easy as I got it done

4:11

quicker than him to release. Is your last

4:13

name? Way or block would have been Autumn

4:16

Leaves at least would have been a middle

4:18

name is used to be him and or

4:20

could have been. Used. To be a middle

4:22

name is. Never mind,

4:24

never mind. We know. So what's up on?

4:26

I'm. So I'm my

4:28

sister. Has and Ninety Four.

4:31

Ford Probe. That

4:33

only has twenty six thousand miles on it.

4:35

As she wants to sell to you. Know it's

4:38

the front wheel drive vehicles. Yeah

4:40

and she can't even get. Up

4:42

for Hill where she lives when. There's

4:44

any snow or ice. And.

4:48

I thought maybe you would have a suggestion

4:50

other than and we wait. In the back

4:52

isn't gonna help a front wheel drive car than

4:54

know and sitting on the hood is kind of

4:57

interest to fizzle. The model is a success we

4:59

were we consider we have to know what her

5:01

first name is. Her. Name is Sale. Sales.

5:05

As a I L A. You.

5:08

Had some interesting parents, a. To

5:12

have any other siblings. Normal

5:15

name's really meals. So the

5:17

girls got the wacko days of them are always got the

5:19

names like Bill and Fred. Here,

5:23

autumn is a autumn. Yeah,

5:26

I was amazed reagan someone

5:28

there to assist us. Anyway,

5:30

it's a great name. Is

5:34

sales so. You'll

5:40

make. To assess,

5:42

assess, assess. Know the

5:44

real Autumn. Leaves

5:46

What? What was wenger? The

5:49

only if I could pry

5:51

a little bit more success.

5:54

Your what's your mother's name

5:56

ginger? Into

5:58

the injure Wonderful me. And Dad.

6:01

Frank Frank good name

6:03

Rise. Ginger. And ranks

6:05

user and Frank in a where are you

6:07

in the birth order. I'm

6:10

from the i have a suspicion you

6:12

a number one ah yes and then

6:14

sales to have to pay me idea

6:16

was to and and I'm going to

6:19

piss based on this information I'm gonna

6:21

tell you how old you are. Okay.

6:24

Yeah. Go ahead, you're twenty eight.

6:27

Oh no. No. On on on

6:29

on on. or Forty two. Thirty.

6:31

Three Twenty eight hours of

6:33

milk or animals ssssss will

6:35

be God's because I realized

6:37

that. The. Names Autumn and Sale had

6:40

to have com. During. The

6:42

Last Goal sixties actually.

6:44

Bottom comes from my father's

6:47

old girlfriend. Mans

6:51

his first born child

6:53

out the previous girlfriend

6:55

sit. In

6:58

your Mother says so I. Said

7:02

when assailed come from a friend

7:04

of my mother's. Said.

7:07

Nope. Just them were

7:09

ends with a at Woodstock know

7:11

they weren't love My father's seventy

7:14

two. Oh. No.

7:17

Live in A Would Start. From. The

7:20

been this or this is all very interesting

7:22

as your pieces of information will have the

7:24

entire dawson. All

7:26

right so get back to the probe

7:29

we will have we all of them

7:31

are so for me to a spec

7:33

because it's it's not having enough so.

7:35

What do you do about that? Well I mean first of

7:37

all, It. Is through.

7:40

The. Front wheel drive cars. For

7:42

some magical reason that nobody really

7:45

understands are better in the snow

7:47

than rear wheel drive cars. All.

7:50

Things being equal. Mon

7:53

All that's not entirely true. The reason for I

7:55

will drive cars a better is in general. They

7:57

have more weight over the the wheels are driving

7:59

the car. then rear-wheel drive

8:01

vehicles have had, recently.

8:05

Well, there are other factors involved. There are lots of

8:07

them. There are other factors. For example, a car's ground

8:09

clearance has a lot to do with how well it

8:11

behaves in the snow, too. And

8:15

more than anything, not more than anything, but

8:17

counting for a whole lot. The driver. No,

8:20

the tires. And I would

8:22

guess that she has, at 26,000 miles, the

8:24

original tires that came with the car. Right.

8:27

Which at best are a compromised kind of tire.

8:29

They're all-season radial tires. Right. And they're

8:31

probably pretty much worn out by now. So

8:34

she could notice a vast improvement just by

8:36

buying brand-new tires of the same kind that

8:38

came on the car when she got it.

8:40

Okay. Because when she first got it, it wasn't

8:42

so lousy. Well, it might have

8:45

been. No, it wasn't great. It wasn't

8:47

great. It wasn't great, but it's gotten

8:49

lousier. Probably. Yeah. I

8:51

mean, people think that because it's front-wheel drive

8:54

car, they mistakenly believe that therefore they're great

8:56

in the snow. You don't have to worry

8:58

about anything, and that's absolutely not true. And

9:02

what makes it even worse is when you have a

9:04

car that has a little bit too much power. The

9:06

ones that are good front-wheel drive cars in the snow

9:08

are the ones that don't have a lot of power.

9:11

Like my cold vista. Like my brother's

9:14

cold vista. But if

9:16

you have a relatively light front-wheel drive car with

9:18

a little bit too much power and lousy tires,

9:20

then you're going to be in big trouble in

9:23

the snow. So she's

9:25

got to... Please. She's

9:27

got snow tires on it. Snow tires? Yeah.

9:30

Okay. I would consider snow tires, but she might

9:32

want to call the Ford dealer because they may have other recommendations. Okay.

9:35

I'm sure she's not the only one that's complained

9:37

about this. I wouldn't think so. Especially

9:40

out in Worcester. Because you all have had a

9:42

lot of snow this winter. Yes, we have. And

9:44

may you continue to get a lot of snow

9:46

if it means that we don't. No,

9:49

thanks a lot. So tell

9:51

us to investigate the possibility of getting snow

9:53

tires, but count on this. Okay. It

9:55

will snow no more. This winter. Yeah. And

9:59

you know why? Why? brother went out and bought a

10:01

snowblower. And you

10:03

can be guaranteed that it's going to be 50

10:05

degrees my wife threatened to run away from home.

10:08

And leave the kids behind. Well

10:12

thanks for calling Autumn and tell your sister, is

10:15

this the sale? Yeah. She autumn

10:17

leaves, sailed by my window. See

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anyway. It's time once again

12:01

for my brother to demonstrate to the

12:04

world that he lacks most of the

12:06

essential chemicals required for basic neural transmission

12:10

Or even automatic transmission I

12:14

know you don't remember do you that's okay? I

12:16

have no that's what I figured no recollection anyway We

12:18

got this puzzler from our very own Ken

12:21

Rogers oh Not

12:24

only found it but solved lost

12:26

it Refound it and

12:28

solved it and convinced you that

12:30

his solution was correct well denied

12:32

we have we vehemently for months

12:35

I must we have to put that in

12:38

because it's true Well, I only denied it

12:40

because I didn't look at it closely enough

12:42

And I don't remember the I think he

12:44

changed the original Paul sure blame him blame

12:46

him He gave you the solution

12:48

you said ah can you're nuts?

12:50

That's wacko all right anyway here I'm

12:52

of the discussion clearly. I have a

12:54

terrific memory here It is you

12:57

remember many years ago the first time I got out

12:59

of prison. We baked that cake Yes, the

13:01

cake was a replica of the one we used to sneak the

13:03

file into The big house

13:05

we were celebrating that little occurrence. It was

13:07

square It was like 10 inches on each

13:10

side and a few inches high high enough

13:12

to hide the file Yeah, anyway there

13:14

were five of us there to celebrate mom's break.

13:16

I mean release There

13:18

was ma of course and pa ma you

13:21

me and our little sister Lucille Yeah, and

13:23

we were having this little celebration we had

13:25

this square cake So we frost the cake

13:27

as you would frost any cake the top

13:29

and the four Remaining sides and not the

13:32

bottom of course the problem

13:34

we faced was this how could we cut the

13:36

cake such that each and every one Of the

13:38

five participants would get a

13:40

piece that not only had the same

13:42

volume of cake right? You

13:45

know that you know how snarling one gets when

13:47

you're shorter on a piece of cake, but also

13:49

the same amount of frosting Yeah, This

13:51

was important because there were a

13:54

whole room full of winers and

13:56

snivelors. Yes, one person gets a

13:58

piece a little different. So

14:01

here we gotta We have got a square take.

14:03

Got it? In case we call

14:06

this a rectangular solid I believe that would

14:08

you call it square? Take. I

14:10

call it a square kicks ssssss.

14:14

And take a few inches tall. We didn't

14:16

divulge the height and that was a huge

14:18

skins. No. Not

14:20

at. What was a hit over here via?

14:23

Okay. So how do we

14:25

split it up into five easy pieces,

14:27

each with the same volume? In. Each

14:29

with the same amount of frosting. Surely.

14:33

Yeah. Well the. Way

14:36

Mister Rogers said about solving it was

14:38

was rather. Ah, simple and

14:40

it turned out to be the

14:42

answer for surface ssssss exits if

14:44

you if you change it to

14:46

a two dimensional problem. Which.

14:50

Is the only way I could visualize it. Ah,

14:52

and in the what allows you to changes into

14:54

a two dimensional problem is that we didn't specify

14:56

how high the cake is. Edwin specified it might

14:58

have complicated it. Anyway, what

15:00

Mister Rogers it was. He found the midpoint of

15:03

the cake looking at a from the top. Sure

15:05

that saved by drawing the diagonals. In.

15:08

He then took the perimeter of the

15:10

take, which was forty inches and divided

15:12

by five. Days

15:15

so he is. It started one corner and

15:17

marked off aid insist de dah dah dah

15:19

dah leaving himself a piece that was two

15:21

inches. Long the game on

15:23

that side. He then started at that point

15:26

and when someone says and six more. Day

15:30

And then he kept doing that until

15:32

he had marched off five equal segments

15:34

on the perimeter of the take sure.

15:36

Then he drew lines from the center

15:38

of the take to each of those

15:41

marked off positions. Still, and you get

15:43

pieces which don't look alike at all.

15:46

And. Through some clever geometry assess

15:48

assess the creative creative process

15:50

Know he he demonstrated to

15:53

was that infects. All.

15:55

Of those figures some of them a trap azores some of

15:57

them on a know what they are, some of them are

15:59

trying all. The Same area. And

16:02

that's if you calculate the volume. Which.

16:05

Is the height time to the area. They obviously have

16:07

this amazing what they want your and they have the

16:09

same amount of frosting because. The. If the

16:12

tops of the same area, we know the

16:14

sides of the same area because they are

16:16

each eight inches long while off. The. Same

16:18

amount of frosting and now this is and we

16:20

rate probably will my school kids. It is great

16:22

problem. I will leave it to the listener. To.

16:25

Verify that the geometry is correct and will

16:27

be awaiting the flood less rather spend will

16:29

be aware of a lot of letters it.

16:31

It may be other solutions to this, but

16:34

the seem certainly the simplest. And

16:36

the most L and it's great and it's

16:38

credits and. We. Have a winner.

16:40

Who is the winner? We have a

16:42

winner. The winner is Nancy Mcrae from

16:44

Saratoga Springs, New York. Beautiful place I

16:46

might add. Yes, a beautiful place. And

16:48

for being such a clever listener all

16:50

pal Nancy gets a copy of our

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More off. So

17:05

you'll get either or to sellers the the

17:07

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17:09

among other highlights. Our mothers one and only

17:11

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17:13

she was on the lam. One every time

17:15

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17:17

price that we just own does. I remember

17:20

when someone called and asked her if she

17:22

had to do what all over again? would

17:24

she have kids she said. Not

17:26

really. That. Was a very good

17:28

sir. Absolutely not real, Not really. was cruel,

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17:34

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17:36

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17:56

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17:58

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18:01

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18:03

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18:07

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18:10

car talk Hello,

18:12

this is Jason from Miami. How are

18:15

you Jason? Hey, what's the weather in

18:17

Miami these days? Uh, I won't

18:19

brag but about 75 degrees 75

18:23

I hang up on a Mind

18:27

Jason I have a 92 Ford

18:30

Torus that is having some problems and

18:32

I wanted to call on just throw a match And

18:34

see what you can come up with sure This

18:37

car is a 92 when I first got

18:39

it It had it was one of those wonderful demos

18:41

or lease program buybacks that the

18:43

dealers offer And

18:45

when we got it, it was running fine. No

18:47

problem I bought the extended warranty knowing that I

18:49

put a lot of mileage on it and that

18:51

came and gone about two weeks later Decided

18:54

that it was time to break down What

18:58

happened is I went out and I wasn't using it

19:00

on a weekly basis I was going out on Saturday

19:02

and Sunday and basically riding around at that time This

19:06

one particular Saturday. I took it down to

19:09

the supermarket was coming back and started smelling

19:11

fumes and Needless

19:14

to say the gauges never showed

19:16

anything. I got it back to the house in one piece

19:19

Opened up the hood and steam started pouring out from

19:21

underneath the hood So

19:24

now I'm starting to look around trying to figure

19:26

out maybe it's a blown hose or something pretty

19:28

simple like that And I can't see anything. Okay,

19:30

so then I bring over my father-in-law Who's a

19:32

I guess a shade tree mechanic is probably the

19:35

best way to put it He's the

19:37

one that can always open up to take it apart, but not for sure

19:39

if it really went back together So

19:42

we got a bet we got we took a look at it and

19:45

As we're looking at it, he starts it up and

19:47

then water starts shooting out the muffler That's

19:50

okay. That's okay. Well, maybe

19:52

okay, okay So

19:54

that's why I'm at right now and I'm trying to decide

19:56

cuz I'm really put a lot of money into this car

19:58

and it's kind Of sitting there not being So when

20:01

you opened the hood this first time, the

20:04

entire engine compartment was sort of

20:06

enveloped in steam? Or

20:09

you couldn't pinpoint where that was coming from?

20:12

The only place I could pinpoint it, because it's a

20:14

front wheel drive so it sits sideways, it was in

20:16

between the side of the engine and the firewall. Okay.

20:20

You probably blew a heater hose. Okay. That's

20:23

my guess. There were a couple of heater hoses that run from the back

20:25

of the engine. Okay. Okay.

20:28

To and through the firewall to supply heat to

20:30

the heater core. Okay. And

20:32

you probably have a leak in those. We replace a

20:34

lot of heater hoses on four toruses. Okay. They

20:37

don't need to be replaced. We just do it anyway. No, okay. We

20:41

bought a case. Torus

20:43

heater hoses. Truck load. No,

20:46

they do seem to have a problem. And we

20:48

also always have a problem describing to

20:50

the parts department which is the

20:52

one hose that we need because there are many. Right.

20:57

If there's a number on the hose, if you do figure out

20:59

which hose it is, if there's a

21:01

number on it, you can shut out that number to

21:03

the parts guy and get the right hose. Now, the

21:05

way you're going to find the leak, are you a

21:07

cheapskate and you're determined to fix it yourself? Basically. Okay.

21:10

I sensed that. And his father-in-law

21:12

is going to love doing it with him.

21:14

Yeah, exactly. He's going to be a little

21:16

male bonding there. He's a diehard

21:18

shoving person, so the minute I told him the Ford broke

21:20

down, he had a problem. He was thrilled. He came right

21:22

over. You know how that goes. You

21:25

know how that goes, I'm sure. All right. Well, call

21:27

your father-in-law up and tell him you're ready to dive

21:29

into this thing. Okay. And what you want to do,

21:31

first of all, with the engine ice cold, is take

21:33

the radiator cap off. Okay. And

21:35

then you can fill up the radiator to the

21:37

tippity top and put the cap back on. You can fill it

21:39

up with water. Okay. Because it's all

21:41

going to leak out anyway. And you can then run it,

21:44

being careful to watch the gauge so it doesn't overheat,

21:46

and try to find out where the leak is coming

21:48

from. Okay. If

21:51

you want to do it scientifically, you

21:53

can go and actually buy yourself something called

21:55

a cooling system pressure tester. Okay.

21:59

Which allows you to do this... test without running the engine

22:01

and allowing it to build up its own

22:03

pressure, you can simulate operating conditions by pumping

22:05

this thing. And what's nice about this is

22:07

that you're not trying to find a leak

22:09

of steam which is going to burn your

22:11

hands and everything that you do is done

22:13

at room temperature so to speak, 75 degrees.

22:16

Ambient, it's ambient for Miami. Yeah,

22:19

really. So you can go and buy yourself a cooling

22:21

system pressure test which you put on in place of

22:23

the radiator cap and then you pump the thing and

22:26

then you'll see water squirting out, you'll get

22:28

the number off that offending hose and you'll spend the

22:30

rest of the day trying to find it and replace

22:32

it. Okay, well what would explain the

22:34

water coming out of the muffler then? Chemistry.

22:37

Okay, no other place for it to go? No,

22:40

that's not the same water. Okay.

22:42

The water coming out of the tailpipe is a

22:44

product of combustion. Okay. CO2, H2O, all

22:46

that stuff is a product of combustion. Okay. And

22:48

all the other stuff that comes out that's no

22:50

good for you. Well, Father-in-law was blaming it on

22:52

the main seal or a warped head and I

22:54

was trying to figure out that would be anything

22:57

related to it or exactly where to start

22:59

with it. It's unlikely. Unlikely.

23:01

Unlikely. However, if you drove

23:03

it for a long period of time without coolant in

23:05

it. Right. Which sounds like you could

23:07

have done. Right. You could have a

23:10

blown head gasket or some other such thing. Okay.

23:12

So you could have wrecked the engine but we hope not. I

23:14

hope not either. Okay. Good

23:16

luck, Jason. I appreciate it. Alrighty. Thanks

23:19

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Feel good. i

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were vacuousness the off on public radio with

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us for complex of habit brothers and we

25:58

had a discussed cars car

26:00

repair, nuclear physics, the

26:03

greenhouse theory, and amore.

26:05

Amore. Amore is it. I

26:07

mean, we have a

26:10

couple of proposals of marriage. To

26:12

what? I'll read you this one. This

26:15

is getting to be a whole department here. We

26:17

need, we need a

26:19

staff person. There's so much

26:21

mail having to do with lamore that we

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need a staff person and I'm gonna have

26:25

to come up with it. Louis Lamore. Louis

26:28

Lamore. I mean, I'll get, here's

26:30

one. I've just returned from

26:32

picking up my beloved Camry at the Toyota

26:34

repair shop and I'm writing to make a

26:37

modest proposal. The Camry and I

26:39

are both getting to the age when we are beginning

26:41

to require a good bit of tender loving care. The

26:44

Camry is 9 years old and I am 52.

26:47

We both have a lot of mileage on us.

26:49

We need a good husband. My

26:51

first husband was a PhD who had no

26:53

knowledge of car repair. I don't

26:56

want to make that mistake again. So,

27:00

whichever one of you is available for marriage

27:03

and relocations to the south, please

27:06

let me know so I can book your

27:09

flight to Birmingham. Southbound

27:11

passenger train. Yes. I'm

27:13

not worried about compatibility. Anyone who can maintain

27:15

a long term relationship with a Dodge Dodge

27:17

is plenty good enough for me. My

27:20

first auto love was a Dodge Dodge. I

27:23

know you'll love my Camry and you'll soon love Birmingham

27:25

too. We have what it takes. One,

27:28

we respect our cars. We put

27:30

them on cinder block pedestals and

27:32

turn them into yard sculpture. Two,

27:35

we never, get this now, we

27:37

never shovel snow. Oh,

27:40

I don't either. Three, we have

27:42

a terrific public radio station. That's

27:44

good. You'll get what you need in

27:46

the marriage too, which is an in-how,

27:49

in-your-own-house lawyer. Fortunately

27:51

for you, one of my main areas

27:54

of practice is libel and slander defense.

27:57

So you can continue your free-wheeling off the... a

28:00

foot in the mouth broadcast style no

28:02

problem. Don't you worry even a little

28:04

bit about those stepchildren either. Each of my 320 something

28:07

children is in a long term relationship with

28:09

an older vehicle and will sidle up to

28:12

you in no time. I'm sending

28:14

a copy of my business card and

28:16

the Camrys registration certificate so you know

28:18

we're both for real. We're

28:20

not real glamorous looking or anything like that but

28:23

we're both in pretty good shape considering the

28:25

shape we're in. Wishing you all health

28:27

and happiness in the new year but if any misfortune

28:29

should strike that would

28:31

cause you to want to consider this modest

28:34

proposal please do give me a holler. Holly

28:37

Barnard from Birmingham Alabama. This sounds

28:39

like the gal for you Frank.

28:43

She does I mean the right age. The right

28:45

age? Right age of self no shoveling snow. She

28:47

could be wife of number three. I

28:49

can see Joanne celebrating now. I

28:53

just heard a little whoopee in

28:55

the background. Was

28:59

that my wife? That was. On

29:01

line two. Wife of number two. Whoopee.

29:04

Getting rid of this

29:06

deadbeat. Alright time

29:08

for the new puzzles. Alright and I am

29:10

going to remember this puzzle. I'm going to

29:12

do everything. No I know you'll remember it.

29:15

Whatever mornic devices there are when you

29:17

say I'm going to remember. Yes.

29:20

Whatever you say. No you will remember it. I'm sure

29:22

you will remember it. You never do. Because

29:24

you've heard it before. Doesn't matter. I've

29:26

heard everything before. Many years ago our

29:29

dear producer Dougie lived in New York

29:31

and being the two timing guy

29:33

that he is he had two girlfriends. One

29:36

of whom lived us you know. Ship

29:39

doesn't know about the other one. Maria doesn't

29:41

know about ship. Oh

29:44

well I'm getting out of the bag now. Should

29:47

I not have said that? I don't think you

29:49

should have said that. Anyway

29:51

one of them lived in Brooklyn and

29:53

one of them lived in the Bronx. One

29:55

of them lived in Brooklyn. No one

29:57

lived in Brooklyn. in

30:00

the Bronx. He was living in New York at

30:02

the time. Oh, I was thinking about the present

30:04

day for girlfriends. Oh, no, that's just

30:06

makes for a better story. That

30:09

will make for a better story soon. And

30:11

he could never decide which one to visit.

30:13

I mean he liked both of them equally.

30:16

And he decided that he would just throw

30:18

it to fate. And he

30:20

knew that when he went down to get the

30:22

train, he would descend the stairs into the subway.

30:25

If he – IRT? Yeah,

30:27

I think so. If

30:29

he stood there, pretty soon a train would come.

30:32

And if it was the Bronx train, he'd get on the

30:34

train and he'd go visit the girlfriend in the Bronx. If

30:36

it was the Brooklyn train, he'd get on

30:38

and visit the girlfriend in Brooklyn. And what made it

30:40

great was that the trains ran equally

30:42

often every 10 minutes. Oh, excellent. Right?

30:47

So he decided that he would go down at

30:49

random times during the day or night.

30:52

Or night. So he'd go down the stairs at

30:54

random times. He didn't know the schedules of these trains.

30:56

But he did know that every 10 minutes there would

30:59

be a Brooklyn train and every 10

31:01

minutes there would be a Bronx train. So

31:03

he figures the chances of 50-50 that I'll

31:05

get a Brooklyn train, Bronx train, and I'll

31:07

divvy up my time equally. So the

31:09

question is, how many times did he end up

31:11

in Staten Island going down the road? Which

31:14

is not easy to do. Interestingly,

31:19

he found himself going

31:21

to Brooklyn 9 out of 10

31:23

times. And

31:26

is he sure that he's going into the

31:28

station at random times? Random times. And he's

31:30

sure that the trains run equally often every

31:33

10 minutes. Does he have a random number

31:35

generator? He has a random number generator. He's

31:37

going down at random times to be sure.

31:40

And yet 9 out of 10 times he

31:42

winds up in Brooklyn. And

31:45

he does it many hundreds of times so

31:48

that he knows there were

31:50

cosmic forces drawing him

31:52

– it's a family show, Tommy –

31:54

drawing him to Brooklyn. What

31:57

was the nature of those cosmic forces? drawing

32:00

into brooklyn nine times out of

32:02

ten and one into

32:04

over our squared times i

32:09

think you know the answer right that it's

32:11

on a postcard of the back of a twenty dollar

32:13

bill or more larger bill if if larger bills will

32:16

be acceptable to us and mail that

32:18

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32:20

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32:22

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32:24

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32:26

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32:29

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32:31

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32:33

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32:35

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32:37

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32:39

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32:42

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32:47

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32:58

just have a couple of would you like to call

33:00

us numbers one eight hundred three three two nine two

33:03

eight seven hello you're on car talk high

33:05

cj hall away cj hallway and

33:09

i'm like a football player down and

33:11

still well we've got to see jay

33:14

i'm from boulder colorado boulder

33:16

boulder excellent yeah

33:19

i'm not a fun you know they need to

33:21

get back to you yeah they went you know

33:23

what that interesting because that's what i want to

33:25

buy no kidding no

33:28

mike and i mean it would be jay that'll

33:31

be interesting you know that the

33:33

land is i have an eighty seven honda

33:35

court it's got a hundred eighty seven thousand

33:38

miles on it and a

33:40

great car it looks really good the interiors

33:42

really good never had any

33:44

work done on transmission at all ever and

33:47

i've been really good about you know do not know

33:50

about the break the battery you know changing the oil

33:52

every five thousand miles back i think i have a

33:54

stick shift or an automatic automatic automatic

33:57

that's very good well dilemma

34:00

is do I find a

34:02

chump to buy this car? Or do

34:05

I let it die a long drawn out death? And

34:08

about every two to three months I have to have it

34:10

towed because something breaks and I have to go fix it.

34:12

So what should I do? What

34:17

do you mean what should you do? I don't get

34:19

it. I mean should I

34:22

sell the car while I can still get some money

34:24

for it? Why

34:26

should you wait and try to sell it when you can't

34:28

get any money for it? Yeah and how much if

34:30

I do find this chump how much can I get for

34:32

the car? It

34:35

may surprise you that this car

34:37

is probably worth a couple of

34:39

thousand bucks. Yeah. Really?

34:41

Surely. Are you surprised? Did I say this

34:43

may surprise you? And

34:46

indeed it did. Indeed it

34:48

did. Are you thinking... Why are you standing on

34:50

it as we speak? We're thinking more like maybe

34:52

getting a couple of dozen donuts for it, right?

34:56

From a policeman. An

34:58

off-duty policeman. Or

35:02

some teenagers that want to have fun for the

35:04

weekend. Weekend, right. Yeah,

35:07

no, it's probably worth a few thousand bucks.

35:10

So if it's worth a few thousand bucks should I just

35:12

keep this thing all in the car? See, now all of

35:14

a sudden you think you want to keep it because

35:16

you don't... because you believe now it's worth

35:18

something. Right. It was a minute ago

35:20

when you thought it was worth two boxes of donuts, you

35:23

were ready to junk it. Drive

35:25

it off Flagstaff Mountains. It's

35:28

clear you have the hots to get another vehicle. And

35:30

we don't know how strong the hots are here.

35:33

Well, it appears to me... Well, yeah, just see how strong

35:35

is the heart on this car. All these mechanics are like, oh

35:37

yeah, you know, you'll get 350,000 out of it. But

35:40

of course they're making money on me every time I bring it

35:42

in. Of course. Yes, they are. I

35:47

mean, I'm

35:50

nothing more than a major transmission bill waiting

35:52

to happen. Yeah, but that's all right. Yeah, but

35:54

that's all right. There's no question about it, that the car

35:56

is nearing the end of its useful life. Poor

35:59

Whitey. I mean, there is

36:01

some chance that it might go through 50,000

36:03

miles, but we're talking about on the normal

36:05

distribution way out there in the 0.01% on

36:07

the right-hand end. I

36:10

mean, look at it. Let us look

36:12

at an analogous human situation. My brother

36:14

is at the end of his useful

36:17

life, or near the end of his

36:19

useful life. I haven't even approached usefulness

36:21

yet. I've never been useful. I

36:25

was hoping to reach... The test is yet

36:28

to come? To aspire to usefulness. And

36:31

he's waiting for a

36:34

major transmission failure. Right.

36:37

But that doesn't mean that we're going to junk him.

36:39

Certainly not. He's

36:41

tried. God knows he's tried. Yeah,

36:45

I mean, it seems as though you don't

36:47

really mind every couple of months when it breaks down

36:49

and you have to have it towed. Well, you

36:51

figure it's probably less than a car payment. You

36:53

know what would improve this condition significantly?

36:55

A cuter mechanic. You're

37:00

probably going to some grizzled old Neanderthal.

37:03

Like he's 57 years old or so. Looks like

37:05

he's 120. And

37:10

he's all covered with grease. Right. If you

37:12

were going to chip and chip were 28.

37:16

And chip was just dying to have you

37:19

come in again. He had a golden retriever.

37:21

You couldn't wait to break that. You'd be

37:23

out there yanking sparks on the wire drive.

37:29

Just so you could get your little whitey

37:31

towed into chip. Here

37:33

I am again, chip. You

37:36

need to... No, it has to be a little... High chip.

37:39

That's it, you guys. That's good. So

37:42

just a thought. That is a very

37:44

good idea. And then it

37:46

would be good if chip... I've got it. Chip

37:49

has to not be from Boulder.

37:52

Oh really? I would get a mechanic a

37:55

little bit outside of the city. Why? So

37:57

that when it breaks down and Chip says...

38:00

It's gonna have to stay overnight. all

38:02

where you are you gonna say Cj?

38:04

what are you Stay at my place

38:06

You could say I'll sleep in the

38:08

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38:11

no, such a little be too cold.

38:13

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