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Let's talk about the new word content healthcare.

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The key is medical professionals and patients

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sharing their encounters with the paranormal. How

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did you go about finding these people? It's

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not at all that difficult. The

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folks that I do conventions, of course,

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and give talks and so forth. And

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when people learn that I'm a paramedic, though

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generally, if they have a ghost story, it

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will segue into something that relates to a

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hospital, Laura a medical experience.

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And I've noticed over the years

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hospitals and psychiatric

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facilities in the old days, of course they called them insane

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asylums. I seem to happen far more

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than their their share of paranormal

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activities associated with them. So people

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would just bring me these stories and it continues

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to happen. Do you know Sarah Grace

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Bunny Chance, she's a psychic

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paramedic. She was on the program

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Monday Night with Us, and I've been

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Sarah, but I don't know her personal If

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she's a paramedic, she's all right. In my book, Yeah,

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it's you know, your first responders are the

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best. I gotta tell you

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one of my favorite I must sage. It's one of my favorite

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things about America, which is my home, and it's been very

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good to me. I'm now a citizen. I'm very proud to do.

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One is that the tradition

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of volunteerism here in

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the United States. I respect

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for anybody that works the uniform and serves.

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But it's amazing how many people

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in these communities are willing to do

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a job, doing something entirely different, and then

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at night they'll go lace up their boots

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and they'll run into a burning building or take care

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of a sick person. So I love

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that about this country. What is your favorite

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haunted hospital? Probably

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would have to know, not even probably, it

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would have to be the old two Willa Valley Hospital

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in Utah, right outside

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Salt Lake. It's

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no longer a hospital, but it has the same structure.

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Of course. It's it's like a Halloween haunted

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place, now, isn't it. It is. It's

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a full attacked Halloween haunted

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house. So they took this old hospital

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and the place closed down early

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two thousand and they

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just left everything when they moved out.

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They didn't take the beds, they didn't take the X

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ray machines. They didn't empty the sharps

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contained which would contain the needle.

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I mean they left pretty much everything

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in place, And so the people that bought

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it turned it into a combination community

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center and full contact haunted house attraction.

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Just so happens when people go through on Halloween.

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Some of them know and some of them don't, but

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the place genuinely is haunted.

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What happened a long time ago to make

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it so haunted? Well,

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I don't think it's necessarily a long time

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ago. I think most hospitals have their

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ghosts. Certainly, everyone I've

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ever been in his got a ghost story or two

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associated with it. This

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one also had, until just a

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year ago, a senior citizen's

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retirement for Sylvia on the back end

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of it insisted living flash skilled nursing

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facility. So you had people

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that were living actively in half the building. The

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other half was abandoned, and right next door is

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the town cemetery, which almost

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sounds too perfect to be true. Yeah,

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that's true. Interesting

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take. Did

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you have some stories you could share with us about

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that area? You know? I did.

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I I've in twenty four years

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of doing this until I went to the

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location is now called Asylum forty nine.

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Until I went there, i'd never seen a full bodied

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apparition. But that is the

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first and to this point only time,

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I believe at least I've seen one.

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And I was going through the Haunt on Halloween

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night, which how perfect

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could that be? Exactly? And

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I decided that we were going to after

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midnight, when the customers had left and

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the place closed down. We would be locked

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in until dawn. But before

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that I wanted to experience what the guests

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the customers experienced, So I went

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through on my own, and

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you know, even knowing where some of the monsters,

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the zombies and so forth were, I still

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got more than a few scares. I got my heart rates up.

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It's very entertaining. And I

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saw this little girl dressed I would

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describe her as looking kind of like Goldie Loots,

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you know, or maybe little Red riding a red

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cape. And she was quite

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happily based on her expression. Pulling

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this lady into one of the side rooms, and I thought,

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wow, she's awful young to be

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on the volunteer staff here, because the

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place is staffed by young people that

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range from you know, nine or ten

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years old, tom in

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their twenties and it's a great place

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in the community for them to go. Anyway,

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I thought nothing of it until I got out at the end and mentioned

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to be older, and I said, hey, guys,

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you know the blonde girl was awfully

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young, wasn't she. I'm surprised she didn't get

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hurt with Some of the people stampeda see here, and

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they looked at one another and said, we don't

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have anybody that young and old.

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We think you saw Sarah.

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And they've all seen Sarah, haven't they

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many of them haven't. And it's

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kind of interesting too. A number of people

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have written and said, as customers going

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through, they've seen the same girl in there.

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And it seems that when the haunt in full

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swing by Harnt, I mean, the attraction,

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the energy of all those people coming

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through whose only goal is to get

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scared in a such safe, healthy environment,

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seems to fuel the activity. For

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eight or nine months of the year, the place is not that

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active. But then you get to September,

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October, November, when the haunted

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in full swing and things just explode.

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It's terrific. Why does it seem, Richard,

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that children, hauntings

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or spirits of children seem

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to be the scariest of almost

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any ghost I don't know why, but

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they just seem strange.

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Well, you know, Hollywood hasn't helped Heather. No,

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that's true. I love a good

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ghost story as much as anybody else. Or don't

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get me wrong, but Hollywood

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definitely has kind of got

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the ownership of the creepy

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child ghost story down. Doesn't

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take that much makeup to make a child

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scary, you know. You watch those kind of movies

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and you see the adult ghosts and summer

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creepy summer. Not that much, but there's something about

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the kids, the way they move, the

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way that they are that you're absolutely

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right. And I think that as a paranormal

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investigator, you hear stories of children who

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seem to be haunting a place and you're

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instantly just kind of on edge,

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you are, And then you know the saying Hollywood

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knows how to play it up too, with the right kind

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of music and the sounds, you know, you

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know, just you know, no,

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I mean, it's just creepy, isn't

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it. Well that's their job. I mean, why

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pay good money to go see that kind

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of movie if you're not going to be entertained and scared

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well, that's true. Who would you say

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has the more of the paranormal

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experience the nurses, doctors,

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the paramedics, the patients who

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comes across them more, hands

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down the nurses, no question at

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all. I think

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it's because number one, nurses have more

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prolonged patient care doctors,

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And of course I have nothing but total respect

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for both professions. But doctors are

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kind of very busy. They're bustling around, you know,

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seeing a whole other patients. They're in, they're out, They're

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in there and out. They can be nurses,

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although they do also have quite the loads

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on their plates deal with. Nurses are

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more likely to spend extended time with

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individuals, and I think they form attachments,

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They become fond of their patients, and

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I think that plays a role in it. But yeah,

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by father, nurses by an order of magnitude.

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I would say, George, what did some of the nurses

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tell you about some of their experiences? Well,

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a surprisingly common one, because I like to

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look at the commonalities. A surprisingly

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common one would be that when a patient passed

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away in a specific room,

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let's say, specific hospital room,

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after would they would hear the coal

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button being pressed, or they would they

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would hear the sound of footsteps moving around in there

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when they knew beyond all shadow of a doubt

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that this room was empty. And I talked

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to one nurse who they had a room that had a reputation

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for it always at a certain time of

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the morning, usually two o'clock in the morning. They

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would dread getting the help

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button pressed from a room everyone knew

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was empty, and the nurses would only go in

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cares to go check on the room, and you set the coal

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button. And this was, of course, after the electricians

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had checked the wiring and replaced

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the components and declared that there was nothing wrong

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with the alarm system. Did you

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ever have any nurses, Richard, to tell

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you that they were petrified scared

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by some of these things?

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Not too many. And I think it's because nurses

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are in order to do that job, you

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have to have quiet the spider, you know, you have to

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have the backbone you

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do. I mean, it's a job that takes a toll

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on you as a as a human being. So

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they're professional. There's some of my favorite

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people in the world, and so

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I almost would rather get on the bad side of a

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spirit than I wouldn't nurse well,

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I'd like you say, nurses are there all

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the time. They

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are. They are the NCOs, aren't they of the

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medical world? And they really no disrespect

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to doctors, but they really make things happen.

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Did they ever talk about witnessing somebody

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dying and then maybe seeing the ectoplasm

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leave or anything like that. You

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know a number of nurses talk to me about the

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fact that they've seen some kind of light leaving

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the human body after death, and

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it's something that they would talk about

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amongst themselves or at least amongst

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colleagues that they trusted, which

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was not everybody, but they

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often describe seeing a light, kind

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of globe of light who seemed to leave the body,

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I rise upwards and then disappear. I

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encountered that a number of times interviewing nurses.

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Why are hospitals and asylums

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seemingly the most haunted. My

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theory on that is that if

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you look at what causes a haunting,

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generally speaking, obviously it's all

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down to energy, isn't it, George, And

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you tend to find very positive and

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very negative emotions are

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predominant in places where you get haunting. So

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if you look at what a hospital is it is all

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of human life, all of human drama,

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played out on a very small stage. In

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other words, you have people dying, whether

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it's in the emergency room or up on the floor.

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You have new babies being born, new families

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being made. You know, you have people being

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given the best and the worst news. You

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have happiness, sadness, all at the same time,

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the entire gamut. And if

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you look at the amount of energy emotionally speaking,

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that that must create, you

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know, I believe that that leaves a star,

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a psychic scarf, or want of a better term.

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I'm sure there is a better term, but certainly

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a residue which is

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reflected in the paranormal activity people experience

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after wards. And you know, something else

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that I found very encouraging was

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that medicine in general, but especially

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nursing, is it's a it's

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a calling. You won't hear that. Many

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nurses refer to it as a job. You

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know, they feel that they were called to do this.

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And I ran

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into quite a lot of accounts of phantom

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nurses, nurses that appeared to be still

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doing the job long after they passed on.

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They're still hanging around the hospital well

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or dropping back in. I'm

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not sure we've got this this conception,

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don't we that that spirits just hang around

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waiting for something to happen. I think I suspect

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some of them come and go that they're not,

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you know, in residence all the time, that

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they might go wherever it is, that whatever

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awaits us after this life, and then drop on back

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when it suits them. There was a good

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example in a historic London hospital,

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for example, of a nurse who very tragic

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story. She had been in charge of

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her own fiance and had accidentally overdosed

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him morphine and he died.

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And you're sure it was accidental,

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right, They're absolutely sure,

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because she was heartbroken and destroyed

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her emotionally speaking. And

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after her death she would come back. And what's

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interesting is nurses would say she was only

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ever seen when pain

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medications were about to be administered,

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almost as if there was a warning, you

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know, hey, make sure you double check correct

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dose of this medication. Don't let what

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happened to me, don't make the same

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mistake. I mean, but they

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all have a sense of beauty, is what I've

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seen with nurses, George, and I love the

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fact that they see that seems

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to apply after they leave the physical

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