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and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor back

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with doctor Jeffrey Rudeger. His book Cured.

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His website is linked up at Coast to coastam

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dot com. It's his name with doctor dr

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in front of it, but it's all linked up for yet Coast

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to coastam dot com. Jeffrey. These

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individuals, these hundred people who

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miraculously got cured, were

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they religious or spiritual? Not

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all of them. Some

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were spiritual, some are religious, some are

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not. It's quite

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a smattering across the board in terms

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of all of that. Were they all told

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there's really nothing we can do for you other

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than, you know, chop you up and give

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you conventional chemo and radiation

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and everything else. Yeah, I

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mean, these are cases of hancre

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carcinoma, glioblastoma

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multiform which is a really awful

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form of brain cancer, and

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closing spondylitis, which is an autoimmune

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disease. That was

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Juniper. There was end

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stage lupus with lupus in the brain

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and the kidneys, in the liver,

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in the heart. That was jan Let's

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see who whatever. We had doctor Patricia

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Kane. She was a physician diagnosed

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by biobviously with idiopathic pulmonary fbrosis,

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where your lungs essentially turned a cardboard

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and you can't exchange oxygen any

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longer and you die. So

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it was a wide range of cases with

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a wide range of people

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and religious commitments, and I

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have to assume they

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did not simply just throw in the towel,

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did they. No. Now

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Again, it's fascinating when

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the specter of death is facing you down how

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people respond. I've seen

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people be diagnosed with

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and a fatal disease and some

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people would just curl up and die. Other

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peoples they expect

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to die, but it's like the

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diagnosis liberates something

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in them. And it's been

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fascinating to me to see how

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a person will, for example,

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decide that well, I don't have to be the

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doctor that my parents wanted me to be

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any longer, or I don't have to do this. And

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it's one of the most common things that people have said to me

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over the years is it took an illness for them

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to wake up and realize they didn't

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need to be taken care of everyone

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else any longer. Or they didn't need to

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react to the perceived expectations

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of others any longer, and they, for the first time in

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their lives sometimes they felt

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free to pursue

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a life that helped them come alive, that helped

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them live authentically, that helped

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them pursue their own well being, or

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that which it's a light in their eyes. And

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so that that was an astonishing finding

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for me to see how

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even though they expected to die, they decided

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to live as

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well as they could in the time they had left. I mean,

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did they do anything else other than that? I

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mean, other than simply say, well, I'm going to die,

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so I'm going to have a great time and have a super

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run at it. What else did they do? They had to have done

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something, So the four

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pillars of healing and well being number

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one. Many people made significant

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changes in the nutrition. Not everybody did,

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but lots of people did. And by

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that I mean they eliminated

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processed foods, sugars, and

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refined flowers. They

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ate a more plant based diet. What's

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fascinating is, I don't think we really

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understand, for example, how toxic

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sugar can really be to our system and

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well in big quantities. That sure can be.

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Yeah, I mean, one hundred years ago we on

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average eight four pounds of sugar a year. Now,

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on average we tend to eat more like one hundred

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and fifty four pounds. And

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it's in everything. And these little

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sugar spicules, these little sharp

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edged cubes, they course

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through our blood stream and they cause

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microcuts in the endothelium as

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they go. The endothelium is

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a very important protective barrier

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in our body, but it's only one cell layer thick.

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And if you are constantly cutting

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up the endothelium of your cardiovascular

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system, you're causing a repair response.

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So you're consuming resources

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in your amazing immune system and

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needing to repair constantly. And

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those that constant

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effort to repair leaves scar tissue.

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That then is the first step

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towards atherosclerosis, for example,

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and soaring of the arteries right

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exactly, hardening of the artists. Your arteries

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over time with all that scar tissue become more for

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rotic, more stiff, and

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less flexible, and

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that's the step. That's it's the creation

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of inflammation. Did they supplement themselves

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with the vitamins in the thumb

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and some did not, and so

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absolutely some people took supplements. Not

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everybody did, but there

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definitely was a trend among a

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lot of people to become

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more plant based. Um, not

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everybody did. I especially told

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the story and cured for example

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of people who went with more of a

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catosis diet, which was heavy

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on protein and meat. But

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they're like the Atkins diet. Yeah,

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like the Atkins diet. But what was really similar

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across all the different dietary approaches

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was there tended to be a an

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elimination of processed foods, sugars,

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and refined flowers. And

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that was really a very

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common, underlying commonality.

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Even though the outer differences were very different

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about vegetarian versus

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meat eating and that sort of thing, it was really processed

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foods and sugars and refined flowers was a

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big piece of what was eliminated. How long

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what was the timespan doctor that we're

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talking about where they literally

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went from almost dying to being

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cured. That varied across

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individuals. Some people got better very

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quickly through amazing experiences.

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But what I concluded was that whether

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it takes ten days or ten

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years, the process appears to be very

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similar. So nutrition

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was one was one of the pillars number

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two, people often healed

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their immune systems. And what's

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exciting is that as I was doing all

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of this research, there's been a lot changing in the last

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seventeen years in medicine, and even

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though it hasn't impacted clinical medicine

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yet, we now know on the basis of research

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that people don't have a diabetes

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problem, they don't have a cancer problem, a

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blood pressure problem, a heart problem, or an

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autoimmune problem. They have an

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inflammation problem. And so

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Inflama, as doctors, we're

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all trained in body parts. If

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you're a gastroenterologist, you train

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to study the gastrointestinal tract. If

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you're a cardiologist, you study the heart,

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if you're a psychiatrist, you study the mind. All

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of the specialized in body parts. But

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that's really prevented us from standing back

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and seeing the forest for the trees and realizing

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that it's not the body part that's

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getting diseased. It's the

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chronic inflammation that builds up

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in the body through our lifestyle, and

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then the weakest link

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in your body is the one that first becomes

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ill. And that's

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a really different way of thinking, and

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it's very exciting to me that we're finally starting

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to wake up and realize, Oh, it's not the particular

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body part that's a problem. It's the inflammation

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that builds up in the system and then precipitates

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an event, whether it's a very

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stressful event in your life

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that causes the heart problem. That's when

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it them becomes manifest. Now, for these

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hundred people who miraculously

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were saved, there were hundreds

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of others who died of cancers and other diseases.

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What went wrong with them? So

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if I'm understanding your question, I think,

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are you asking what about those who

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made the same changes and still didn't get me? They

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didn't save themselves? That's

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correct. I think this is such a

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new science. I mean, there's

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nothing spontaneous about spontaneous emission.

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Is one of the contribusions I made. By the end of this

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we call these healings

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spontaneous. Spontaneous means without

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cause. That's a very unscientific

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assumption to just believe that

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somebody got better spontaneously

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without a cause. It turns out

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there is a cause. We just assumed

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there was not. And so I one

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of my real efforts

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here is to bring science

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and doctors into a place

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of curiosity to look at these cases more

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closely. I just did an event earlier tonight

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with Jill Bolt Taylor, who is

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a She was a neuroscientist at McLean

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where I work, and back

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in the nineties, at age thirty seven, she

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had a stroke that took out most of her left

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brain. She then had a

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full recovery over a period of eight years,

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and then she had a TED talk that went

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viral as the first TED talk that went viral. It's been

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seeing millions and millions of times around the world.

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She was named by Time magazine as

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one of the most important people

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of two thousand and eight. I believe she has

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had Oprah, who has been

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doing a movie on her life. She's a really

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prominent, lovely lady who's and

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this is a neuroscientist who had a stroke.

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So she knew what was happening to

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her as it was happening, as

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it was happening, and so she documented this

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in a book called A Stroke of Insight.

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The book has been a bestseller for

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years. It translated into something

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like twenty eight or thirty languages.

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And she said, when we first talked the first time,

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she said, I've been waiting for you for twenty two

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years. She said, in twenty two years, not a

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single doctor has ever asked me how I got

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better from my stroke. And this

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is in spite of who she is, with her world

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class fame

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and prominence. And so that's

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what I hear over and over again is that

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patients will say that their

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doctors at best will

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say, well, whatever you're doing, keep doing it because

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it's working. But they have

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not played a role in helping people

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understand what's possible for them. And

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they just are not trained to think it's

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possible for people to get right. They don't

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know there's this foreign for them exactly.

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It's a whole different way of thinking because as

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doctors were trained to make diagnoses

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and prescribe medications. But by and large,

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we don't study how people heal, which is an

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astonishing statement. But I think

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we're at the end of an era where the

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era has been about disease and medications,

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and now things are starting to change and

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we are finally just now beginning to ask

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questions about how do people

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heal and what does it mean to study how

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people heal? And the people I study are kind

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of the ultimate achievers of

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health and wellbeing and so it just makes sense

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that we study not only

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healing, but especially study the ones who really

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beat the odds. Did these hundred people

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Jeffrey, do it all on their own or did

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they have a support group of people who prayed

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for them and things like that. Many

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people had a support group.

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In fact, these people buy and

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large took responsibility for their health and

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wellbeing. They didn't just do what

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the doctor said. They decided.

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I mean, many of these people believed

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they were going to die, but they also

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wanted to Some of them wanted to give

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it their best shot, and so they would assemble their

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own team. They would ask for

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second opinions, They would do

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research to try to figure out what

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was the right path for them, what were the right decisions

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for them. They sometimes

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would kind of hire their

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own team, you know, hire a

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coach or who

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they felt might be helpful to them. That's

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miraculous, isn't it. It really

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is. When you started studying

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these hundred cases, I mean, were you shocked,

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Oh? Absolutely, I was shocked. I mean, it's changed my

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life completely. I've I

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was a typical physician. I knew

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very little bit about nutrition. I look

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back now and realized I was given a lot of misinformation

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in med school about nutrition. We

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were told, actually that nutrition

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is not a problem in the United States or

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in westernized countries, that we have

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a problem of overnutrition, that we eat

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too much and that's overnutrition. What turns

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out that there's a massive

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problem of malnutrition. We just don't

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we are not taught what real nutrition

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is. We assume that processed

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foods and sugars are just part of the Western

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diet, and that's part of it. But you know what's fascinating

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that when we

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diagnose cancer safer with a

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pet scan or something, we inject

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radio labeled glucose, which is sugar,

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into the person's body and then see if

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there's any place in the body that sucks

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it up avidly, because sugar

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is cancer's favorite food and if there's a

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place in your body that is just sucking

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up the sugar, there's a good chance

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that's cancer as well. And

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so like Pablo in London,

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he knew that when he was diagnosed

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with brain cancer with Leo

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blessed the multiforms. So we said, well, why

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don't I just try to starve this cancer

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to death? And so he eliminated sugar

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radically and now

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years later he's fine, And of course doctors

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never would have expected that that was a possibility.

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Do they ever relapse these people,

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some do absolutely. It's it's

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a it's a it's a fascinating

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study because there

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are absolutely people who would like to believe

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they got better, but the evidence, the medical evidence,

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does not support that. They desperately

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want to be better. There are

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others who there's a jan how I tell

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the story in the book. She had in stage lupus. Doctors

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told her that if she went to a healing center

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in Brazil she would die on

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the way. They're most likely because it was in her

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brain at that point, it was in her kidneys, is

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in her heart. She was failing rapidly.

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She went to Brazil anyway.

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A doctor actually went with her who he was so concerned,

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and she did

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get better. She came off of medications

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that she had been on for decades.

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She came off I think off of something

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like twenty medications over a period of time, including

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the PREDDA zone which she had been on for decades,

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and she became

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a different person. Right. So, when I met her, and then

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she showed me the photos of who

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she'd been they didn't look

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like the same woman. And if

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they that those two people have been standing

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next to each other who she was and

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who she was now, I would not have

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been able to recognize them. And she said when she returns

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home to Idaho, she would walk down

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the street and see people that she had known her entire

15:39

life and they would not recognize her. So she

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got dramatically better. She went back to Idaho

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to a marriage that was toxic for her

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and a work environment that was not

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good for her. She became ill again. She relapsed

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when back to Brazil, got better and

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realized, oh, there's something about my marriage

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and her job, all

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of that, and so she dramatically

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changed her life and now decades

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later, she's happy

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and healthy and amazing lady. They're

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just her smile and the light

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