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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I am six forty. You

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are listening to the Bill Handle Show. I'm driving into the Peaks. The

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peeps have a ride for Easter. One of my scoremate for me. Nice

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to see you celebrate our Lord's direction. Yeah. I throw them up in

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the air and they stay there. You ever juggle them and they don't ever

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come down. Okay, it's like eating marshmallow covered in two hundred grit sandpaper.

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Uh. Oh, just don't kid. I like it all right,

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guys handle in the morning. Crew. God, we're sort of out of

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control this morning. We are. Yeah. No, you're there too.

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It's just we're having too good a time. Also, it's opening day,

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the Padres and the Dodgers, so you've got them, No, not plain.

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Oh yeah, it's true because I you know here, I don't know

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baseball obviously, but I'm looking at and with Padres the jersey, I look

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at Amy with the Dodgers. Wild you guys get in a fistfight in the

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hall. By the way, you started at least screaming at each other.

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No, because we're not playing each other today. Okay, Well that's true.

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It's just opening day. Yeah, I keep on forgetting that. Okay,

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Opening Day Dodger State. I've been to a couple of Dodger games in

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my life. And oh I went to the first game Valanueva, Valenzuela,

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whatever the hell's name is, first game, first game I went. That

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was just a couple of years ago. Yeah. And he hit he was

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pitching and he hit a bass drive a line. Uh he did, and

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the cheers went crazy. The cheers went crazy? What about the audience people?

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Was they also went crazy? All right, guys, all right,

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I want to talk about lawyers for a moment and disbarming. Do you know

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how hard it is to get spot to get disbarred in the state of California.

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Everyone that's ever heard your weekend show? No, no, no,

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I am. I will never get disbarred. I was suspended once for a

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week, many many years ago because I didn't fill out the paperwork for my

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continuing education of the bar. You know, you have to have X number

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of units and you have a drop dead date. And I missed it?

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How often? How often? What? Every two years? Do you still

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do that? Well? Of course I do that. I have to maintain my license, of course, for what to practice to give legal advice,

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I can't say I'm a lawyer, and whether I give marginal legal advice or

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not, I cannot say I am an attorney at law if I am not

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licensed to practice law. And part of the licensing to maintain the license to

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practice and that includes giving legal advice, is you have to do I think

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thirty thirty five units of MCL which is continuing, so give horrible, unusable

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without any credence or credit to actual law. Yeah, you have to to

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keep up your law life. Absolutely, I have to be active because that's

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practicing law. I can tell them the same thing and then end with I

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don't know, I could be totally wrong. Nope, Nope, you cannot.

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Okay. So in terms of getting this barred, very very difficult.

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You ever heard their name John Eastman, Of course you have. John Eastman

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was actually a professor of constitutional law at Chapman Very Good Law School, and

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he was one of the defenders of Donald Trump. The election deniers. Now,

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there were a group of people that went and tried to get the election

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overturn based on simply a fact, and that is it was rigged. That's

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it. It was rigged. Numbers, it was fraud. Okay, that's

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one part of the argument of overturning the election. What Eastman did is had

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the legal argument that Mike Pence had the authority to not certify the electoral vote.

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All fifty states move their electors and they had to follow what the electoral

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college or what the electoral vote was, and then the college votes, and

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then the Vice president has to then announce officially in front of Congress, count

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the votes and say the president is now Joe Biden what Mike Pence said.

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What Eastman said is Mike Pence has the ability to say no, and therefore

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and claim that Trump is now still the president because the election has been desertified.

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Effectively, the election didn't happen. That was Eastman's argument he brought in

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front of judges. Now, let me tell you the legal basis of what

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he said. He pulled it out of his ass that's the legal basis.

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Judge after Judge mayl him and said, what do you base it on?

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And he said, well, this is the constitution. What part of the

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constitution. I don't know. It's just that Mike Pence has to certify and

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if he doesn't and elects not to and even Mike Pence. You remember when

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Mike Pence said, too bad. The law says that I have to declare

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the winner pursuing to the electoral College and the electoral votes. And Eastman said,

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no, you don't, No, you don't. This is another way

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to keep Trump as president. And let me give you an analogy. It's

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a good analogy, which is very rare for me. Academy Awards. The

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presenter goes up and says, and for best picture opens, it refuses to

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say the name. Therefore, even either second place comes in or there is

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the winner, I said, and can't do that. All he's there is

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to announce who wins. That's it. Mike Pence, the vice president,

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is there to announce who wins, to do the counting or certify the counting.

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And Eastman kept on arguing, that's not true. Mike Pence has the

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ability to say no. And he made it up. And then he based

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facts that never existed. He pulled these arguments out of thin air, and

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the judges said, what are you talking about? He came up with factual

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basis of well, President Biden, well not even President Biden, Joe Biden.

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The election. He didn't get the votes that he says, and on

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this basis, I argue constitutionality, and the judges said, what are you

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talking about. He never backed down, and I had said, let me

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tell you, he's going to get disbarred for that, saying that in front

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of judges. Guess what the process by which he is disbarred is now going

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on. In California first hearing, a judge recommended that John Eastman be stripped

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of his law license never allowed to practice law in California because he violated the

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rules of professional ethics one hundred and twenty eight page ruling you'vet role in.

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The judge said that he had misrepresented facts, facts and lawsuits he filed challenging

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the election result, acted dishonestly in promoting this wild theory that Mike Pence could

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unilaterally declare President Joe Biden not the president or unilotically declare that Trump is now

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the president because I won't certify the votes. So, according to what the

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judge said, Eastman exhibited gross negligence, making false statements without conducting any meaningful

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investigation, any verification of the information who rely on, and he breached his

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ethical duty as an attorney to prioritize honesty and integrity. Now it goes up

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to the Judicial Council, actually goes to the California Supreme Court, and they

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decide it is hard to get disbarred. I mean, you have to go

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a long, long way to get disparred. A lot of horrible things.

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A lawyer is suspended for a period of time public reprimands, which are public.

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You know here he is he screwed up private reprimands. So John Eastman,

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I hope he gets disbarred because this is crazy. Giuliani only what Giuliani

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did much the same thing. He only got hit with a thirty day suspension

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in New York. Was that for the bad hair dye? Yes? That

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was exactly its Yeah, yeah, exactly it. Okay, here's the question.

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And this is a story out of the La Times actually, and I

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brought Neil into this because he and I completely disagree on this. Not as

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much as you think, but there is there is definitely a disagreement. Okay,

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So here is Well, you and I have disagreed. Here is the

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question. Okay, is graffiti a crime? Or is graffiti a crime?

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You have one of two choices here. No, that's not what you asked

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me. Graffiti is a crime. Absolutely in every way, in every shape,

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it is illegal. It is vandalism. What you asked is graffiti art?

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Is there any? And there is? There is To tell me that Banksy is not an artist, To tell me that there isn't an art form

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there to me is okay? Is to miss is to miss the entirety of

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the expression. You have a building here in Los Angeles that was ignored,

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that is polite unto itself. That is probably a great illustration of what's going

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on or what has gone on in city hall with people that are supposed to

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be serving us, that are not serving us. That was ignoreds okay,

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But only is seen because people put crappy graffiti crappy not even are on it,

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crappy graffiti. There is a social element, There is a commentary that

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goes on with with that. I think it can be missed if you just

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push it off. So I hate graffiti, okay. I understand the taggers

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that put their name garbage that is garbage that should be promotive garb. Yeah

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yeah, tag team is is that right? Sociological commentary on it? But

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once okay, so let me do this giving you the benefit of the doubt.

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Please do if I take a spray can and I tag up the building,

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this building without permission, because that's part of graffiti, and it is

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art. It is beautiful. Yeah, it is terrific. Still a crime,

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Yes, I never said it wasn't. What I said is that to

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define it as non art because of the canvas is absolute. I understand that

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if you look at the little girl, I get it. I kicked the

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balloon by Banksy. That is commentary now is it? Is it vandalism?

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Yes, you've got Keith Haring, You've got Combo, You've got Shepherd fairly,

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You've got uh from the Obey that we saw, You've got many wonderful

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talented artist made commentary and it's still art. Now, if you're saying it's

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illegal, yes, it's illegal. But there are illegal protests that have created

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change as well, that have not gone by the standards of a peaceful protest.

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Maybe the different Maybe we are simply defining graffiti differently. And I can

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agree that. You know, there's uh what downtown, Uh, there's this

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on the side of the building. There's this extraordinary mural of Kobe, which

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is enormous. It feels the entire six story, buildings and graffiti. Okay,

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it's one, but but it's still art. Regardless of how it's applied,

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it's still legal. I hate the plight of graffiti, trust me,

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especially in I live in an area where there's a lot of graffiti on houses,

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on homes, private homes. It disgusts me to no end. A

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lot of gang activity in the area in which I live as well. All

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right, stuff out of garbage. So maybe we bottom line it as permission

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and if it's without permission, it doesn't matter what it looks like. I

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think it does for two reasons. I think one, there is commentary there

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that should be under I don't care if it's commentary talking. Doesn't care building,

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I don't care for it, I understand. But it's still it's still

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for it had graffiti on it. It was a plight to la because people

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in city hall made decisions that were not in the best interest of Angelino's but

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were in the best interest of money. And that is the eye sore.

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Okay, fact that it was painted only made us notice it. I can't

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wait to go to your house and on the side of your house paint a

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beautiful representation of the mona Lisa, I'm going to argue and if it's good,

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I might keep it. Well, how about that tagging out your garbage

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self indulgent garbage. But I'm saying that Banksy and the like and others that

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have brought attention to wars, to criminality, to ugliness in the world,

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that has power and movement to it. That should not be overlooked because of

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the fact that in this case it was done outside of the rules, as

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many other things have been done throughout history, including the revolution that gave us

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this country. Wow, is that where we're gonna go? Yes, sir,

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okay, you got it. So when the graffiti artists are now run

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for city council and they win, city council already has a problem because they

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can't decide whether it's art or not. They give, you know, awards

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to certain people and accolades to certain people that are graffiti artists, and then

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they think this is plight. They have to get their stuff together, all

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right, coming up, I want to do worry about the center of that

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gambling scandal, and I am going to do it. Neil, I want

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to hug it out. Hey, you invited me? No, I did

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I know you? And I are disagreeing with that, but we may You're

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right, we mainly agree on a lot of it. To me, it's

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all about permission or no permission, and about the ugliness of it. I

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mean, in the vast majority of this. Just really quickly before we take

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a break. You go to Rome and you, uh, you see these

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buildings that are five hundred years old, built on foundations from the Roman Empire

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that you can see, and they're spray painted all over and some of it

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looks very nice. No, but that's that's a different that there is nothing

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that you are going to do to antiquities like that, to these these oh

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plays that are going to even art, yes, even art, even art.

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Okay, Now, this gambling scandal with sho Hey Otani and his interpreter,

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and that's in quotes. I guess he was an interpreter to some degree.

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Who did I say? Who did I ask if Otani speaks English?

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And I was told by someone in the sports world, yeah he does.

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It's like Valence Petros, was it? Petros? Think so? And I

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think he he said, yeah, he's you know, he speaks enough English.

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It's like Valezuela when he first came over. Yeah, you know,

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it's I mean, he can get along. You know, it's not like

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he doesn't speak. But it's what ends up happening. Of course, you

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speak in your native tongue, well like Veolinsky, you know, I mean,

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the guy speaks English, but he does this thing in Ukrainian. So

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so what ended up happening with the scandal? All right, we know the

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interpreter is involved, Misuhata and show hey, Otana is involved to a small

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extent, don't know quite how involved. We do know four point five million

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dollars rent from Otani to Misahari, that we know Missaharah. Now, Otani

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says didn't know anything about it. I thought I was just helping him.

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Didn't know it was betting. I just helped him, and frankly, he

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just stole a matter of fact, that was one story that Missahra said.

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Otani's soul story is the guy written me off. He took four point five

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million dollars from I don't know where he got into the bank account that he could take that much money. And the ESPN reported that there were two bank

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drafts with Otani's name audit. So what do you do with that? Well,

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in the middle of all that is a guy by the name of Bauer.

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Bauer was the bookie that was in raw involved and his role in the

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Otani scandal. Well, and now it's being looked at internationally. I mean

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his home to go to san Juankpa strong where he lives. I mean there

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are satellite trucks, reporters camp there to figure out what the relationship with It

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goes back to twenty twenty one. This is Bower's relationship with Missuhara. They

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met through a mutual friend. They were in a hotel lobby. Misshata was

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placing a bet on a cell phone with another bookie. The friend overheard Missahara

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walked over and said, this is the guy you need to be betting with

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and introduced him to Bauer. So now you've got Missahatta, best friend interpreter

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for Otani, meets Bauer and the bets went to Bauer. Missihara first started

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betting on international soccer, basketball, football, never baseball. His losses grew

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and grew, so did the bets always paid off, according to Bauer's attorney,

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Now everybody's staying way away from Otani. Bauer never spoke with Otani,

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the only person he ever dealt with was Missahara. However, when Bauer heard

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Otani's name was on one of the wire transfers, remember Otani his name was

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on for five hundred thousand dollars twice, he started boasting that Otani was his

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client. Huh okay, Baseball is investigating this big time. And the reality

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is baseball, if Otani's interpreter, best friend, consort is gambling, that's

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not baseball's problem. I mean it was he was hired by the Dodgers just

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to hang out with Otani. He was fired by the Dodgers the same day.

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And now the question is is baseball going to really investigate this? Well,

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Petros and Fred Rogan both have said this is going to go away because

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there is no interest in baseball nailing Otani in any way because they nail other

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gamblers and they really can't treat it differently, except they can saying, you

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know, baseball, people in baseball who gambled. Pete Rose has been banned

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for life for gambling. Now was it in baseball? Yes, with Pete

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Rose. But Pete Rose bets on everything, and so what do you do

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with the player the highest played player in baseball history at seventy million dollars a

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year, guaranteed over ten years, all deferred. And consider, when was

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the last time there was a two way ballplayer, a pitcher and a hitter

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of extraordinary heights. I think it was, Babe, Ruth, it was

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the last time you had this double player in one premiere pitcher premier hitter.

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Now I brought Neil into this not only to harass me, but also to

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talk about what's going on with a new law. Minimum wage is kicking in

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for fast food workers in California to twenty dollars an hour. But it's only

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for fast food workers. And we're talking about fast food or I guess let

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me ask you this, Neil real quickly. It's with stores over five hundred

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companies, over five hundred national chains. I mean, it's really it's basically

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the McDonald, Starbucks, Burger King law is what it is. It's you

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know, it's like a laser focus. Yeah, it starts out broad and

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then by the time they're done, you can see that a target's only a

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handful of these bigger players. However, what I keep telling everyone is that's

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crap, because what happens Bill if they're paying twenty dollars an hour which is

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roughly about four dollars an hour more than what they were paying. What happens

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now to the mom and pop places that can't get someone in at sixteen dollars

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because they'll go to me. So it affects everyone, and the crap that

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they're trying to push on us that it is only affecting these big corporate monsters

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that everybody hates in this garbage. That's a point, and look at well,

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look at how weird the entire concept of minimum wage. Minimum wage nationally

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is seven dollars and twenty five cents. You go to Nevada, minimum wage

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is seven dollars and twenty five cents. There are many states that follow the

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national model, the national law seven dollars and twenty five cents, which is

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I mean that was past when in the early nineties. I mean, it's

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just crazy when it was passed. So to your point, twenty dollars an

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hour. Now weges have gone up dramatically on their own without a new law

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kicking in. And what is the average wage in fast food the world right

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now? It's like what eighteen dollars if you go to a McDonald's, if

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you go to well, it depends where you're going, no joke. I

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have as a manager here and to see people come in go out and they're

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what money they're looking for. I have seen people that have you know,

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background, a career trajectory in something, moved to fast food just just for

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the money because of the fact that they're they're paying on average more than other

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places are. To start as well, the issue becomes now what fast food

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is fast food for two reasons, because it's quick to make, but also

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because it's inexpensive. Right, it's cheap food. So McDonald's has seen a

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backlash already with raising prices before April the first change. Now in the end,

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I want to point something out too, and I'm looking at some stats.

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Between nineteen twenty twenty two, three years, the average weekly rais has

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jumped twenty six percent. And the argument for proponents of law are saying that

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the companies, the McDonald's, the Burger Kings, the major franchises and it's

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ninety five percent franchise and by way, so we can call them franchises.

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Very few company owned companies that are out there, which is common for the

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you know, unless you got your inn out. I think in an Outburger's

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family own and it's a way yeah uh, And so wages has gone off

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twenty six percent, and the proponents are pointing out, look at how well

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they're doing. This is like the argument with the United Autoworkers make with Ford

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et cetera. Look at the amount of money that we're making. You're making,

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so therefore our wages should be X, which is entirely reasonable at that

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moment, at that time. How about three years from now when the market

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has turned and all of a sudden car sales have gone south, or a

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major corporation. We've seen McDonald's have bad years. We've seen these companies have

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bad years. Do wages ever go down? Nope, they never go down,

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So the baseline goes up enough. I would like to see wages a

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baseline wage and is predicated on revenues and profit. I really would and bringing

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in the employees, which they do in Europe all the time, bringing in

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the employees on the upside and the downside, once they make a base pay

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that is reasonable. You know, one of the companies I endorse, and

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one of the reasons why I endorse them as American Vision Windows. And you

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know why, because the employees are part of all of that. Every single

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employee has a stake in making sure the job's done right and that it's quality

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because they're tided. I love that Kinkos when I worked for them, was

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the same way. You had once a month you'd get an extra check based

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on what the company made if it did well. And I think that's an

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amazing model. None of this bonus garbage is just you get a chunk of

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what we get. Well, that's a model that we don't follow here in

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the United States. And then the argument, if you're talking to your minimum wage, you're still living at a pretty low rate because even twenty dollars an

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hour is not a living wage. No, in California. Yeah, eight

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hundred dollars a week for a forty hour week. At times, you know

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that's not forty thousand dollars a year. That is rough. You're probably doing

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better at seven point fifty an hour in Nevada than you're doing twenty dollars an

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hour. So here we are by the way, I have the same philosophy.

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When I had my business and I had employees, they were completely involved.

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When we had bad years, we paid them very little. When we

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had good years. We paid them very little and their raise was keeping their

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job. That's why the company did as well as it did. We're done

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with that. Coming up Joel Larsgard and I know you think I'm joking.

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Yeah. KFIAM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening

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