Motherhood is often treated as the defining experience of a woman's life – whether or not she wants kids, the decision is usually treated as a major, and potentially life changing, conversation. Mira Ptacin's been on both sides of the equation: her memoir, Poor Your Soul, chronicles her decision to terminate her first pregnancy; shortly before its publication, she gave birth to her second child. Ptacin stopped by the BinderCast studio with her infant daughter to talk abortion, balancing work with motherhood, and persevering in the face of an unending stream of nos.

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