Our friend Dr. Elizabeth Eagleson, a primary care physician based in Amherst, MA, is on the show! and we have some real talk about all things 'Rona. The world, the internet, is filled with tons of…interesting and often contradictory information, and we're so lucky to get someone on the front lines to talk to. She has some really great advice for right now, for the future, and we try to end the episode with hopeful and happy thoughts! About hedgehogs!

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