In this episode we were joined by true crime writer, counter homicide trainer, criminal profiler and Clevelander Phil Chalmers!

Phil has spent 35 years getting inside the minds of serial killers, school shooters, mass murderers, and teen killers.  Phil has done over 200 interviews inside the prison walls with these killers to get to know and understand what goes on in their mind and why the commit these crimes.  Phil has some incredible stories and insight, as well as sharing some of the actual object and letters he’s gotten from some of the most famous cases we all know.  This one is special and we were glad to have him join us!

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You can find Phil at:www.philchalmers.com

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