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new Britney Spears documentary on Hulu. She

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Just search too much to say with Kaylee

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Shore. Here's the episode. Now, Hey

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guys, I'm Kaylee Shore, and this is too much

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to say

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it out you, okay.

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So, like the rest of the world, I spent this past

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weekend watching Framing Britney, the

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documentary by The New York Times that was on Hulu.

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Highly recommend. It's incredibly

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eye opening, and I'm going to focus on just a couple different

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parts of it. This whole episode isn't about Britney

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Spears, but she is the perfect example of

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what the media does two young

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women, whether they're famous or not. To be

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completely honest, I

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was old enough to know what was going on with

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Britney Spears from you know,

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the kind of tumultuous time between

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two thousand and five and two thousand and seven,

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but I wasn't old enough to really know how

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big of a deal it was that she was just

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this joke to everybody.

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And there's this really a poignant scene

2:08

in the documentary

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where Britney is a

2:14

question on the Family Feud game

2:16

show, and the question is things

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Britney Spears has lost, and one of them

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is her hair, one of them is her mind,

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and one of them is her husband. And

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that was a joke that the live audience

2:27

was laughing at, as if Britney Spears isn't a real

2:29

person. And to be completely honest, like

2:31

watching this it felt like I was watching a Black

2:34

Mirror episode. But then I remember that

2:36

this was just a couple, you know, fifteen

2:38

years ago, not even There's

2:41

crazy moments like where this

2:43

interviewer who's an adult man is

2:46

talking to her while she's a teenager

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and says everyone's talking about

2:51

her breast, then wonders why she seems to get

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furious when a talk show host comes up with this subject.

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That's literally what the viewers ad

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verbatim. It's insane. And there

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was just this massive sexist like

3:04

interpretation of Brittany. And yes, like her

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songs were sexual, her music videos are sexual.

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She didn't write or direct those,

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which is also important to know. But also

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there's nothing wrong with wanting

3:15

to be sexual as a woman and portray

3:18

yourself like that. And she actually was like a

3:20

very like, well mannered

3:23

classy, beautiful, intelligent

3:25

young girl, and it's just

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judging a book by its cover. It's outdated,

3:30

it's boring, and it's usually inaccurate. There's

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crazy moments with the paparazzi where

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you see them following her around doing the

3:37

craziest stuff. They're just on

3:39

her back twenty four seven. And of course

3:42

you're going to break at some point. I mean, that's

3:44

just I can't imagine ever going through

3:46

something like that. And paparazzi

3:49

are still a thing these days. But now we have social media,

3:51

which is both a good and a bad thing. It means

3:53

that you can control your own narrative a lot

3:55

easier. So you're not getting these

3:57

splashy tabloid headlines

4:00

saying something. You're actually being

4:03

able to say it yourself. So it's like, you know, if

4:05

the headline is like messy divorced,

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Britney cheats blah blah blah blah, it's like you've probably

4:10

already posted about it and said what happened.

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But at the same time, like, we don't have the

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tabloid culture that we used to, but we

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have Internet rolls, and we have commenters,

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and we have people with opinions and

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so the interviewers and the

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tabloid writers and the paparazzi saying all

4:27

these terrible things about Bertie Spears. They now

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just live in the comments and anybody

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can be that guy. I mean, my good

4:34

friend Perez Hilton was featured on the

4:36

documentary as well, and I mean, he's talked

4:38

very publicly about how he

4:42

is not proud of the way he treated people

4:44

back then when he was a gossip blogger, you know,

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And I think that that's you know, he's he's

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done a lot of growth and a lot of remorse for the

4:51

way he treated people. But just to

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use this example, everybody

4:55

can be Perez Hilton. Now, everybody can be two

4:57

thousand and seven Prett Hilton and just voice

4:59

your opinion and make a YouTube

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video and just put it out there and

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say all these negative things about people. And

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on a smaller scale, it's kind of how social media

5:09

works with high schools as well. Like even

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when I was in high school, I was

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probably like part of the first group

5:16

of kids who had social media from

5:18

middle school on. And I remember

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I think I got my first MySpace account when

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I was like in six or seventh grade,

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and everybody was on Facebook by eighth grade,

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like you had a Facebook. Every

5:29

single person did, and so that was a really

5:31

weird adjustment because everybody

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like there was this thing called form Spring. I don't know

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if you guys remember that, and it doesn't

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seem to be something that many people did. I don't know if it was

5:41

just my school. But it was like an anonymous question

5:43

site. So you had your profile, it was just your

5:46

picture and like a very short bio,

5:48

and then people could submit questions and they

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could either have their name on them or they could

5:52

be anonymous. And the anonymous

5:54

ones were where it got really bad. Actually, the ones where it got

5:56

really bad was where the person forgot to click anonymous,

5:59

and so you saw but the name of who it was,

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and a lot of times it would be like somebody asking

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a question about themselves

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to someone else and then they leave their name

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and it's just so so hilarious.

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Kids. Kids cannot be trusted with social

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media. But that form Spring

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website operated kind of like a

6:17

gossip blog for the teenagers

6:20

at my high school. And also we had

6:22

legitimate gossip pages on Facebook that

6:24

would be like anonymous, like during high

6:26

school gossip, and then it would be like this, so and so

6:28

broke up and this person did this over the weekend,

6:30

and it was all like really fucked up. But I

6:32

mean, I remember this one rumor. Oh

6:35

my god, I don't even know I'm sharing this,

6:37

but just so you understand the gravity

6:40

of what this website was doing, I

6:43

this is like one of the most fucked up things ever. But I

6:47

was in tenth grade, I think, and

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I had started talking

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to this guy and

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he was black, and we

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had a thing for like a little bit. It didn't last

6:59

very long. I wrote a song about

7:01

it, posted on YouTube whatever, and then

7:04

I guess like a week or so later,

7:07

because it's high school, that's what you do,

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I started flirting with this other guy who just

7:12

so happened to be black. I

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just I just didn't think anything of it.

7:16

I just like, I personally just like hot

7:18

people. I don't really discriminate.

7:21

I just like hot people. That's my

7:24

type. And I

7:26

remember getting a question on form spring that

7:28

was like do you have jungle

7:30

fever, which is like so fucked

7:33

up. And that

7:36

didn't hurt my feelings nearly as much as it

7:38

must have hurt those those guys feelings. And then

7:40

that became a whole thing. So I came back to school after

7:42

winter break, and like everybody was saying that I had jungle

7:44

fever. And then the

7:47

you know, me talking separately to

7:49

two different guys ended

7:52

up being this like really weird rumor

7:54

that I got drunk and had a

7:56

threesome with them at a party and I was like, oh

7:59

my god, I haven't even seen a penis in person

8:01

yet, Like what are you talking about? And

8:04

like then that became a huge rumor, and

8:06

like I went back to school and people were talking about

8:08

it as if it happened, and I was like just

8:11

high school tabloids. Like that's what social media

8:14

is so adjusting to that. You know, there's

8:16

always been rumors, There's always been stuff like that, but

8:18

it was just so much more prevalent as soon as social

8:20

media got involved. And really

8:22

just I mean it made me feel so

8:25

terrible and I was being slut shamed for something

8:27

I hadn't even done, and like it

8:30

was just horrifying, And

8:32

people were able to say this anonymously until

8:35

like I'll never know who it was who was saying those

8:37

things. I definitely have my guesses. I

8:39

mean, it doesn't matter, it was so long ago

8:41

now, but oh

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it's definitely bullying, but it's also

8:45

different than bullying because it's like just

8:48

a culture and when you're going

8:50

to a school where everybody's being that mean

8:52

to each other, it's really hard to not get caught up in

8:54

it. And I've definitely treated

8:56

some people in high school, like you

8:59

know, in ways that I'm proud of. I don't

9:02

think that I was ever truly a bully.

9:04

I think I've always had a little

9:06

bit of a moral compass when it comes

9:08

to that, and just I've been

9:10

an outsider a lot of my life, so I think that I have a

9:12

certain degree of empathy when it comes to people.

9:15

But it's really hard to not get caught up

9:17

in the ship talking when it's like

9:19

the entire culture. And to that same

9:21

point, it's hard to not get caught

9:23

up in shit talking celebrities. So when

9:27

everybody had turned against Britney Spears, everybody

9:29

continued to turn against Britney Spears, and it was like this

9:32

big joke and everybody's like, oh my god, I'm gonna

9:34

shave my head like that. That

9:36

was the punchline, was like talking about

9:39

this thing that was clearly some

9:42

sort of mental break for Britney Spears and

9:45

it just makes me so sad. Watching the documentary

9:47

is really eye opening, and you know, seeing

9:49

this massive pop star but being able

9:51

to relate tells you how this is

9:53

not a problem isolated to celebrities.

10:10

It's just a think before you speak thing, you

10:12

know. And I've tried as

10:15

I've gotten more

10:17

followers and read more comments

10:19

and had more things come out about

10:21

me, whether

10:24

they're true or not, you know, just reading stuff I probably

10:26

shouldn't read as much on the Internet as I do,

10:29

but it's definitely

10:31

made me think twice before I share an

10:33

opinion of a celebrity because you're like, oh, they're

10:35

a real person. There's somebody on the

10:37

other end of that Instagram when you're commenting,

10:40

and it's just the stuff I see on

10:43

like I feel like on TikTok, especially because I

10:45

feel like the comment section is so active there. There's

10:47

some things where I'm just like, why did you need to say

10:49

that? Like why did you look

10:51

at this video and be like, oh my god, you

10:54

know what I need to do. I need to say this.

10:56

This is going to do something, This is going to get

10:58

a reaction. I don't like my

11:01

life motto is to what end? Like

11:03

what am I trying to get out of this, and

11:06

so when it comes to a comment like that, it's like, to what

11:08

end do you want like a couple of people

11:10

to start an argument with you? And the comments, like

11:13

there's this one comment that I think that people

11:15

comment on TikTok a lot when they see

11:17

a video going viral for the wrong reasons,

11:20

and people will comment and say, you

11:23

know, it's I think it honestly gets

11:25

commy and pasted, but it's very important, and they're

11:27

like, your comment last

11:30

ten seconds in your head, but like it'll

11:33

last forever in hers, so

11:35

be careful what you're saying to people. And

11:37

then there's also this thing that I see a lot with girls

11:40

being nice to other girls, where like if something like that

11:42

happens, a bunch

11:44

of girls will just comment like compliments

11:47

on the comment page, so all the mean ones get

11:49

pushed to the bottom and you can't see them anymore.

11:52

And there's this one girl that I

11:54

follow on TikTok and we started talking back and forth,

11:57

but she's disabled and posted

11:59

a video that was like just kidding, like it

12:01

was just her singing along

12:03

to a song and like

12:06

doing it was like a relax your face

12:08

and you know, we'll see what your

12:10

psycho face looks like or something like that. Like it

12:12

was just so stupid, and she

12:15

did it, and people were just like making fun of

12:17

her teeth and like just being completely

12:19

awful, saying all these terrible jokes. And

12:21

I commented on it and said something nice to her because

12:23

she was wearing like really cool black lipstick, and I

12:25

was like, oh my god, I wish I had the nerve

12:28

to wear a black lipstick. I wish

12:30

I could wear it more often, like sometimes I'm like a

12:32

little too nervous. And then she followed me and we

12:34

started talking back and forth, and she's so sweet and so

12:36

smart, and her perspective as

12:40

a disabled girl getting cyberbolin

12:43

was so much more enlightened than you

12:45

would expect somebody who's the

12:47

victim of that to be. Like, she had every

12:49

right to be so angry because the things people

12:52

were making fun of her forward things that she had zero

12:54

control over. I mean, that is one of the most

12:56

fucked up things you can make

12:58

fun of people for. That was the moment that I like truly

13:00

completely lost respect for Donald Trump, was when

13:02

he made fun of that disabled journalist. It's

13:05

just inexcusable and I

13:07

don't know how you can make you can

13:10

justify something like that. So

13:12

for her to be dealing with the worst kind of hate,

13:15

the most hateful kind of hate, and

13:17

still be the bigger person, it was really

13:19

inspiring. And I mean her

13:22

video, I think it got like a million views or something

13:24

like that, Like there were a lot of comments. And

13:27

that's also another thing about social media is

13:29

everybody can be a celebrity. Everybody

13:31

can get a million views on a video randomly.

13:33

I mean I literally had that happen a couple weeks

13:36

ago, and I had

13:38

people trying to find out who Amy

13:41

was and the comments and doing

13:43

all this stuff trying to track her down. You

13:46

know, I feel like most people were

13:49

I don't want to say on my side that feels down, but like most

13:51

people understood why I wrote the song and didn't think I did

13:54

anything wrong. But there were some people who were just like really

13:56

rude about it, and you know,

13:58

saying stuff like I was just

14:00

mad because my ex boyfriend didn't want me. I'm like, okay,

14:03

well you want to read the text because I

14:06

think you're wrong. But it's

14:09

just so weird, like anybody can be a celebrity

14:11

for five minutes on social media and you're

14:14

just under so much scrutiny, and

14:18

god, anybody can can feel that what

14:21

Britney felt, but on

14:23

you know, a much smaller scale. It just makes me so

14:26

sad because so many girls my

14:28

age, like we grew up listening to her and we loved her

14:30

so much, and everybody

14:32

loved her. I mean, she's America's sweetheart. And then you

14:34

wonder why Taylor Swift felt so much

14:36

pressure to be so fucking perfect

14:39

all the time, and then people ended up hating

14:41

her because she was like, quote unquote little misperfect.

14:44

Taylor Swift was terrified because she thought

14:46

what was going to happen to the chicks would

14:48

happen to her, where if she talked about politics,

14:51

she would completely you know, be

14:53

blacklisted. And then she saw

14:55

what happened to Britney Spears, where Brittany had to

14:57

talk about being a virgin, have all this like weird,

15:00

Like that should never be a question you're asking anybody,

15:03

much less a teenage girl, how

15:06

fucking weird. And then there was that whole

15:08

thing with Miley Cyrus and the Jones Brothers

15:10

and Demovotle Selena Gomez where everybody had purity

15:12

rings and I do remember seeing this really

15:14

great Taylor Swift quote in her first Rolling

15:17

Stone cover and

15:19

she was like, you know, they were asking

15:21

her if she had a purity ring, which is just so fucking

15:24

weird. She was like literally like eighteen

15:26

years old, seventeen maybe, and

15:29

she was like, yeah, I prefer not to talk

15:31

about it either way, because I just don't want anyone

15:34

picturing me naked and talking

15:36

to a teenager about not having sex

15:39

and asking them if they do where they don't. It's

15:41

just effect up about like making them answer questions

15:43

about being sexually active, like it's just not your

15:45

business. And oh,

15:48

I mean, virginity is a came in construct anyways,

15:50

it doesn't not even real. Don't

15:53

even get me started. But I

15:55

highly recommend you go watch the Britney Spears

15:57

documentary. It'll really open

16:00

your eyes to a lot of different things, not just her

16:03

plight. And also I haven't even touched on the

16:05

fact if her conservatorship, which

16:07

with her father, which is just insane,

16:09

and that's like the point of the

16:12

documentary. But I figured, you know, it's best

16:15

for you guys to hear that story from The New

16:17

York Times. This is just an opinion piece on how

16:19

we've treated Brittany and people on

16:22

social media and in tabloids, etcetera, etce. But

16:25

highly recommend you go check it out. It'll give you a

16:27

lot of perspective on her situation,

16:29

but also just a lot of perspective

16:31

on how we treat people. And

16:34

I think that there's a lot of room for improvement

16:36

there. I think that after watching that, I

16:39

want to be a lot kinder, even just in the thoughts

16:41

I think to myself when I'm scrolling on Instagram

16:43

and I see an Instagram model and her face just

16:45

annoys me, you know, like I don't

16:47

know why that happens. When I'm just like, oh my god, that

16:49

person's so annoying, Like why

16:52

do I think that? Why do I think I have the right to

16:54

think that about somebody? I don't know. So it's

16:56

just kind of controlling your own

16:59

thoughts and and staying positive.

17:01

I find something really wonderful

17:03

to do when I'm just even kind of depressed

17:06

in general, is every person I come

17:08

across, I try to find something to compliment

17:10

them on. And you notice something

17:12

about them, whether it's their eyes or their hair or

17:14

their outfit, or you know, something

17:16

I saw them doing for somebody else that was really kind

17:19

and they didn't think anybody was looking and

17:21

just looking for the best in everybody. And there are

17:23

some people where you probably won't find anything, and that's

17:25

okay because you can just run the other way. Thank

17:29

you guys so much for listening. My name is Kaylie Shore. I

17:31

know that I had promised you last week a very juicy episode

17:33

this week, however, I had to push

17:36

a couple things around, so that's going to be next week.

17:38

Stay tuned to my social media. I have a big announcement.

17:41

I'm recording this episode on Tuesday, so

17:43

I don't know if I'll be announcing it by the time

17:45

this episode's out or not, but we'll

17:47

see. Thank you guys so much. Big news coming

17:49

soon. Also, you might want to follow me on

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Spotify because then you're good. Get on your

17:53

release where you are in the event

17:56

I was releasing a song I don't know anyways,

17:58

hope you guys have a good day. Names Kailly Shure And this

18:01

is too much to say, but

18:04

don't go ask me questions you

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don't answer. Soon I

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got to us say now't

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turn it out of you. You