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Ebony Brown: Robert, your friend is too funny.

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I mean, his views are obviously reprehensible, but there's just enough

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truth to make me examine myself in a critical light plus he's hilarious.

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And,thus,oddly likable, Uncle Ruckus: It's a pleasure to meet you and well,ma'am.

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Intro Music: It's About, it's about the started from the bottom talking about

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Lynxi: welcome back to the boondocks podcast.

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Today. We are discussing season three, episode 11, the lovely Ebony brown in

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which granddad finds a black woman.

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So beautiful and charming, not even ruckus can hate her.

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Ebony brown is perfect in every way. So is this the end of grandad's long, sad, desperate search for a woman, not

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if he can help it, but before that y'all know what it is, how you live in what

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you're doing, how you feeling happy

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Tiara: November, happy November, almost the end of the year already.

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That's nuts. I don't know how that's it like the last two years just don't

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feel like real time anymore.

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MJ: Oh yeah. I told my husband, you have to take that off the amount of time it takes for

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you to divorce me and replace me with a younger model because it's not fair.

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And he said, Tiara: if anything it exceeds MJ: it excels that period of time.

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Y'all know how it is. He'll know what's up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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Any current events, any news y'all want to discuss?

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Tiara: Did did you see the was it Kanye and Justin Bieber and Marilyn

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Manson doing like a prayer thing together on stage the other day?

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Who's MJ: Kanye. Oh, you

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Tiara: mean? Yay. Yeah, I fucking around.

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No, I did not. I don't even know what that

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MJ: was. No, I did see Kim K is supposedly at least the press is running with, oh my God.

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Either girl. I don't even think that he's not his, he's not brown enough.

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Agreed. She has appropriate. No, he keeps taking them off.

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He's actually taking his test happens all really. I know that it's probably his ancestry

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Tiara: tomorrow. It's probably one of those things where she's really depressed after the divorce.

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And he like makes her laugh. So she's let's just do some stupid for a little while.

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My sister's all serious with her new boyfriend.

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So MJ: fiance, they're yeah, they're not serious.

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They're annoying. Right? You just have to have a little bit of a little bit of the spotlight,

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but that's until the new shells come out, her being with Pete Davidson is

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totally because she was just on SNL.

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She did a good job. And that makes sense to say, now they're friends and she

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has a new show coming out soon. Tiara: Did you watch it? I haven't watched that episode of SNL yet.

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MJ: Yeah, it was really good. She did a great job. She did a really, really, really, really I was surprised, but I,

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she did good and good writers. I'm sure to help her have content that she, she would've

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done well in, but it was good. And plus she has so much money that you could have hired the best acting

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coach ever to make you, somewhat.

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Somewhat like a board, hold the position. But she, you she did really good.

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Tiara: I always wonder when somebody who is definitely not an

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actor goes on a show like that. Like I wonder how much work ahead of time.

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you know, that she's been acting forever because all of that back,

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goodness cannot be, yeah, she's too fucking smart to be that dumb.

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, I don't know. I haven't really watched Saturday night live regularly for a while

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because they were using too many people that weren't very funny.

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I don't know how to say that they, it was hit or miss with me, I'll say it that way.

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And it was more miss than hit. So I stopped watching it regularly, but I've been catching pieces here

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and there more and more lately now that we don't have regular TV

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and whatever streaming service has SNL it'll show me clips random.

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MJ: Yeah, you too. Jason.

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Tiara: We did watch that one. Yeah. Yeah. That was

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MJ: a recent one. Okay. So then that was the most recent one.

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Now one was really good and that actually leads me into what I

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made hubby do the other day. We watched every single, Ooh, what's up with that.

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Every single one. That shit's hilarious to me.

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I don't know. Oh, I know. So funny Jason today.

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Cause during the running man, Roger rabbit, that was the

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first time I'd ever seen it. Again, like she said, we, we ever watched any.

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Tiara: Yeah. So it probably wasn't super funny to you guys, but it was funny.

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It MJ: was funny, but yeah, it was, I w I think it was a little confusing as well.

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Tiara: Yeah, MJ: definitely. And then my sister told me, Lindsay Cunningham was actually on SNL.

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I was like, oh my God. That's what it looks like. That's what it is like.

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Yeah. And then she goes, was that the cocaine episode that he was on?

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I think it was. And then she was like, no, it was the, it wasn't that one because it was the one

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with Jason today because on it no, no, no, not the one with what's up with that.

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The one where Lindsay Cunningham actually shows up because it used to

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always be, oh my God, I can't think of Tiara: the guy's

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MJ: name. It's not daycare, but the one SNL guy would always play

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Lindsey, Buckingham, Buckingham. They were both on there.

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They were both on the same episode, but Lindsay wasn't on the one with Jason.

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Like he wasn't on the show and he came on at the end.

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So during the what's up with that clip skit, when he all of a sudden

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introduces people that aren't on the show, oh, he introduced the

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real Lindsey Buckingham kit out.

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I did not even catch that Buckingham from.

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Fleetwood Mac. Yeah. Every episode of what's up with that, they would have an SNL

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character playing Lindsey Buckingham. He would ask Lindsey like a deep, provocative question,

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but every time before he could answer, they would break into it.

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What's up with that. Yeah. Nobody else gets to say anything.

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Like he brought him to the song and none of, and nobody that he has there is that

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he actually talks to, so he goes, oh, I'm sorry, my buddy, I didn't get to you.

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Didn't get to, the whole time. And then he's all come on, don't be mad.

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Don't be mad. And then he starts smiling. Yeah. It's actually.

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Yeah. Especially when he came on and they were dressed exactly.

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Like how he goes, wait a minute. Is that how you really dresses?

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And I'm like hubby, I'm sure they gave him that on the show.

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I'm sure Lindsey Buckingham doesn't wear that every day. But yeah, really it, he know old hump hubby knows he just left to go to

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the store, but I made him literally watch every single what's up.

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I love like back-to-back back find an edible

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Tiara: and then not let them go to sleep yet. MJ: I'll watch it.

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I have no issue with it. I know there's some issues with the, some of the humor in

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there is falls flat for me, but Tiara: that's why I was saying like, it's hit or miss for me, but

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MJ: I think my soul, my FA cause just cause I love John Malaney.

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I was when he was at the wedding and doing the dancing

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So bill Hader played Lindsay bucket all the honor together.

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By the way, if you ever broke into Tara.

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Yeah, it was good. It was good. It was one of the better ones.

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But yeah, that was when I really fell in love with SNL probably was during

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that time of Wolf barrel and and then it all rolled into when it was like the

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years of the women Amy payer and yeah, Kristen Wiig and then just moved in and

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now it's newer people, but it's people that I can recognize from other things

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like somebody who used to be on MTV Mikey day, he's on there and he's killing it.

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He used to be on like wiling out when it first started, way, way

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back in the day and he is killed.

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Like he came on and immediately he was part of the.

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He was in everything, but he's so good. They have this one Asian guy who's very clearly part of LGBTQ plus community.

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And he's funny as hell too.

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And you don't normally see someone of the Asian descent who is a

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lead character or lead a lead actor on a sketch show like that.

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I was mad, but he still are granted while we on trash, I can podcast always

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do a character granddaddy long legs. And he

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Tiara: did MJ: that. Daddy long look skit. And it was so fucking funny

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Tiara: with the bug MJ: assembly. Yeah.

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This is really funny. Yeah. It's that they're doing.

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I think they're getting back into, because they're they're allowing more diversity

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and they're getting younger and younger.

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Not too young, but younger, younger people that'd be a part of the show.

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And then they're also allowing them the opportunity to create more of

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what their sketches and things like. They have more, I guess, kind of equity within what they're doing

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which then turns out better content. I think so, and then when we have so much shitty stuff going on, they

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have all the content that they need to, within pop culture and political

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theme shade do really love Colin Jos.

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Oh my gosh. Love him so much. They had this past episode or two episodes ago where.

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The devil J Jason Sudeikis basically, he made a joke to Colin gels.

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Hey, don't let us forget how you got, how you got

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that's funny. Yeah. And that was totally ad-libs like, you can tell when they add live on

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there, but Josie and Jay are just the greatest, like the weekend update

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is definitely my favorite, their end of the year closer where they

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write each other's jokes always best.

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Oh my God. I cannot wait. Joseph's you're going to get me killed.

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So pretty exciting.

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I found out on Friday, I was driving to Sonora, which is a beautiful,

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beautiful, beautiful part of California that I've never been in.

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And I got the message, it's crazy driving there, like it's mountain.

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So all of a sudden it went from like just regular road to these sharp

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20 mile per hour, turns and I'm listening to M and M and I'm just

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like focused on, on cruise control. And I'm like, oh wait, okay.

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Can not be looking at my phone while I'm driving.

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So I've gotten the original message while I was driving.

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And I just responded by voice like, oh my God, thank you.

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That's so cool. Let me know. And then put my phone down and slipped my mind until later that evening when

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we were getting to the campground and people were saying hi and whatnot.

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And I may or may not, I may have had a shirt maybe.

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I don't know. And so all of a sudden I was like, Hey, everybody listened to me.

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And yeah. So hubby goes, oh my God. So yeah, a couple of things that, I'm claiming I am doing more, I think I've

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kinda manifested things to happen. So I'm claiming them and yeah, that's

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Tiara: really cool. Yeah. That is really cool.

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MJ: Well, something I hate is people who try and say oh, I got MJ so arrogant.

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I can't believe she's on here celebrating herself, bitch.

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Nobody says that shit. People do.

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People absolutely deal fucking haters.

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They absolutely do. But, and guess what?

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I love you guys. Cause you guys, everybody needs the haters.

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Like Kat Williams said, if you don't move up from seven haters

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to 15, you're not doing it. Right. So keep coming, like I say, you know, you're the shit when the flies arrive.

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So keep it going.

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I can swatch you down. I can get one of those up. Have you guys seen those fly guns?

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Tiara: get some of those. Yeah. I feel like that's something you've had before you've done.

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The flyswatters but you shoot salted them and

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MJ: I've seen it. I've seen those guns. I think, I think geek

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Tiara: that's MJ: right. Yeah. They're awesome.

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You shouldn't get that much excitement, but sometimes even are just way too aggressive.

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It is a little Eagle live enjoyment out of it.

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But to that point of, the haters, the haters can say what they want,

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but I am also the biggest supporter of those people that I love.

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And I believe in as well. And if you knew me on a personal level, which you don't then you

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wouldn't know that about me, but keeping haters and keyboard gangsters.

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Tiara: I can honestly say that both of you are huge inspirations for me.

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Like I, I set it on Twitter the other day, but I, once we move and settle

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in, I'm going to be starting up my own consulting kind of thing, but

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for basically for IEP consultations and like families, children with, big

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behaviors and things like that, just like my quote, unquote special interest.

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And also to use that as a way to get research done, if I do decide to

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continue along my educational path.

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And I'm saying these weird, these words, so weirdly, because it's hard to describe

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that I'm in a master's program that is designed to lead to a PhD, but I don't

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have to get a PhD, but if I go for a PhD.

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I'm going to need to get some kind of income. Okay.

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I didn't see that, but MJ: I saw the book.

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You say I'm going to write a book. Yeah.

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So if you guys need SEO, I'm here.

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Awesome. And them up for sure.

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You have a lot, be able to share in different experiences.

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So I think that'd be awesome. And yes, and then having an income after, your true passion and purpose

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is huge because you want to be able to do what you're passionate

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about and what your purpose is. Tiara: I have never tried to start my own business.

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I've never thought about something like that. I don't know very many people who have most of the people that I know are for

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lack of a better phrase, wage slaves, we work jobs that we work because we

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need to have the paycheck that we have. Not because we love what we do.

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And I am really hoping. I love what I do.

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So, , Lynxi: Yeah, it's a, it's a privilege.

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I'm not going to pretend it's not, and I'm not going to pretend I

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could've gotten out here and started my own business without my mom.

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First saying, quit that fucking job.

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You don't deserve that shit. Quit that job. And then my husband finally getting on board, but to MD's point, and also

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to the point I was driving, when I said to her I hate when people say

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don't promote yourself, girl, like you said, you know what you know,

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and you're good at what you're good at you stating that is fabulous.

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And anyone who takes issue with it is dismissive of your experience,

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your education, your journey.

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They can eat a whole Dick, a whole bag of them.

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And it's that too. I myself would not want to work with somebody or put my money

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into somebody who is not confident in what the hell did they do?

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Why would I want to do that? Why, if it's too much right, you should do it, not run away from it.

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And the kind of, and the way that I see it as old me, before me really knowing

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what my purpose was and, just doing the day-to-day jobs and doing, some

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success to make other people look good. I definitely would have taken offense to some, somebody saying something.

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What, not even what, 10 months ago, I took offense to what somebody has

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to say about us, about me on here. However, I take it now, as you're just nowhere near the journey that I've, I've,

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gone on or that I've been accountable to put myself into you're nowhere near.

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You don't even know that there's a journey that you're supposed to be

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going on yourself and you're unhappy. Cause if you really want to know, you'd be really hating on me for a lot

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of stuff that goes well in my life. MJ: People.

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I think, when I tell them that we are on going into what our second year of

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this pod and that, we have people that are close to the show into the, the

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creation of what we were discussing every week, know that we're out there.

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In that we're doing something that a lot of people, when I tell

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them about the pond, they go, wow, that is that's interesting.

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I really want to listen to that. Or, I haven't thought about that show in a while, but it was my favorite or wow.

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It is going to be interesting to see how it relates to today's world.

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That's something that I know that we are all very proud of and that if you are

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once again mad about somebody else's.

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Accomplishments then maybe you should look at why you're not proud of any

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accomplishments that you may have. Oh, I like that.

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Totally agree. And it's going to tie into this.

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Tiara: That was perfect. That was almost like we had planned a segue because looking well, I'm, watching

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the time and having producer man, next to me, I am very aware of how long, and it's

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almost like the perfect timing, right? When he w he was like, finger was going up, it was about to start circling.

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I'm like, she's doing it, she's doing it right now.

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MJ: It just happens. Naturally. Tiara: We can just feel it at this point.

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We're starting to get the timing and rhythm and

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blah, MJ: blah, blah, blah, . All right.

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All right. Tiara: The lovely Ebony season three, episode 11, we start with Robert typing

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up a Facebook post telling how he's leaving the platform because he's

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had nothing but bad luck with women. He's attempted to date on there, despite the fact that he was an

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astrophysicist, a soccer star and X UFC welterweight champion with

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very bad Photoshop and all also,

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MJ: I'm sorry, I didn't pick this clip or any of us dead because we should

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have, I hate when people do this shit. Just take your ass off the plat, right?

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Tiara: It was funny too, because if you were actually deleting

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your profile, whatever you're typing up is going to be deleted,

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MJ: right? Yeah. But they always come back within a week, right.

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Tiara: All right. Next we have Robert at the park with Tom and ruckus getting ready to go.

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Jogging. Tom mentioned that he saw Robert's Facebook post ruckus says that the

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only reason Robert is having so many issues that he's dating black women and

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that he can never be happy that way. Tom tries to defend Robert, but Rick is says, Tom seal only happy because

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he got himself a white woman basically saying that Tom can't say anything

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because he married a white woman, which, I know the point of that in this

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show is because who Tom is aspiring to whiteness without actually having

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that kind of overtness of ruckus.

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That's I love that. Tom tried to say, there's nothing wrong with black women.

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Ruckus is you married a white woman. What's MJ: up. He's shut up.

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Like really basically he said he to dig a little bit.

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Yeah. Tiara: Robert is ready to start jogging, but he needs, but he realizes

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he needs to tie his shoes as he's doing so a gorgeous black woman comes

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jogging up and stops at the park bench where Robert is tying his shoes.

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She introduces herself as Ebony. Robert comes home and excitedly tells the boys about Ebony, the boys arm up.

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They just think that any girl that granddad is going to bring over, oh,

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that was something I forgot to mention. that when he was doing that Facebook post, he was talking about all these

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horrible women that he had met, not caring the fact that he was lying to them too.

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But , so yeah Riley tells granddad's be careful because because she's only after

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his money Huey tells him that he should just take it slow and get to know her.

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Basically don't bring her back here until, she's safe because they've had kidnapping

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attempts and murder attempts and all kinds of shit, just because granddad has a type

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Ebony and Robert pull up to the restaurant for their first date and Ebony's doors

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opened by none other than the valet uncle ruckus, his, he, at first, he insults her

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by referring to her as a chimpanzee and a monkey and settling on Negro female,

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just then Robert gets out of the car and asks ruckus how he has so many jobs.

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He pulls ruckus aside to talk. MJ: Rabbit frame.

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I swear, every time I read it at count you amongst the smartest of the curse,

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Sandra ham, you managed to prove me wrong.

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Why don't you leave us alone tonight, Rutgers, you're not

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going to ruin this to me. We're just going to get to know each other really, really well.

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I'll tell you the other thing you need to know right now. She got kids, she got a police record and she got that up to her wide nostrils.

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Well, we'll see about that, but you just leave us alone.

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Very important that he Tiara: says that. So I love that this is because when they were at the park, ruckus was like, yeah,

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leave the black women and leave him alone. And then all of a sudden, Robert has a black woman again.

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So of course he's what the hell is wrong with you?

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And I just love that Robert's leg shut up. Nothing more than that, dude.

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Come on. Let me just, let me get some she's beautiful. That

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MJ: tout the occurs sons of ham fucking the Mormon shit.

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Tiara: Yeah. Yeah. Robert heads inside the restaurant with Ebony in an effort to

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get to know her and put rhexis claims to rest in one fell swoop.

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He asks her about kids and arrest record and debt.

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She has none of those things. Robert then excuses himself to go to the

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MJ: bathroom. Tiara: I love how just.

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Confident she was they, and I wish I had written down exactly what she

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said, but just basically like answering out of order too, which isn't okay.

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Just sorry. My high brain autistic brain just caught on something.

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It's usually when someone asks you like three things in a row,

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you're going to answer it in the order that they asked you.

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So that's interesting. MJ: I don't know it's about my brain.

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Does, did he? Cause I think the way that he asked left it where she be like, okay,

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guess what, there's none of this. There's nothing, like she just picked up the last thing.

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Yeah. Yeah. But I'm perfect credit and perfect.

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The perfect Tiara: credit. Yeah. Robert excused himself to go to the restroom at tells ruckus city's wrong.

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Reca says he needs to question her, which of course Robert tells him not

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to, but he goes and does it anyway. When Robert goes into the bathroom, he has confrontation with the

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bathroom attendant about tipping.

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And I know that this was basically just like a throwaway scene just to pass a

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little bit of time to show that ruckus was talking to her while he's in there.

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But it was still funny as fuck. MJ: And I forget what it's called.

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Y'all I, cause I went to school for writing. It's like a, it's one of the things you do to establish a character.

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Do you remember back in the episode where they snuck into the movie

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theater when Robert gets in the argument with the guy about the popcorn

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and having to get his own fodder? Yeah.

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It's like a continual theme that strengthens his character.

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Oh, I'm paying, I shouldn't have to tip.

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I shouldn't have to get my own button. Tiara: I didn't ask you for this.

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So therefore Dew: you shouldn't tip $5 to the guy in the bathroom.

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MJ: Especially when all they do is turn on the water and he hands you the shit.

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Like I see if like I'm buying like I'm getting some lotion, I'm getting

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sprayed down, cigarettes or something. I used to walk out the bathroom with hella, shit.

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For $5. Lynxi: I used to give them big tips, like $5 tips, $10 tips and stuff.

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Only because I never had to be the bathroom girl, but I was the table girl,

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like I used to bring, when you ordered bottles, I'd bring you the bottle.

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It's not a cocktail waitress. MJ: You were good bottles or you just like

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Lynxi: Bottle service. That's what it is.

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Nope. I did not like it. They quickly moved me off of it.

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Cause I was like, I do not like it. Cause you have to sit on their laps.

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They, yeah, like you're supposed to you don't have to do anything, but like in

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that job role, if you take it, you are expected to give them a good experience

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that sucking people's dicks and shit. But like you were expected to like flirt and Nope.

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Don't do it. Sit on their lap. No, not doing it.

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Not me. Not Lindsay. Sorry. MJ: I have some handy Jays.

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Lynxi: Oh yeah. Yes. That's why they moved me out because there were other girls in the

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club who were willing to work VIP.

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I was not going to quote unquote work, VIP.

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Sorry, not sorry. I don't judge anyone who does get that Guam, but it just was not me, but having

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been experienced those kinds of jobs or clean up, we saw stay after hours and

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clean up and still party with people.

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Mostly people do Coke at that time. I hate to tell you guys, but that's what they do

24:14

being in that life. You get it right. Tiara: I, I wasn't a fan.

24:18

I didn't do it. But also I knew exactly why they were doing it because people

24:22

are fucking assholes and you up until six o'clock in the morning

24:25

Lynxi: and call centers are a different kind of help with a specific type of care.

24:29

And so I also get that MJ: I did call centers and restaurants, so I know exactly what you mean.

24:33

So that's why I tip in restaurants. I got to try to make sure have you been, leave money?

24:36

And I'm like, that's all you're gonna leave. He's they did. And I'm like, come on, baby.

24:39

We used to do this, but Dew: they are paid to do it.

24:42

Tiara: Yeah, I'm definitely a 20% tipper, like as the like where my average is

24:47

like sometimes a little higher, very rarely lower because the minimum wage

24:52

for restaurant workers is like two bucks.

24:54

It's two bucks and change almost everywhere across the county. Dew: Servers weekend don't they don't do check bags.

25:00

They don't do I got to ask them five Absolutely.

25:06

And that's part of the problem when you've done it. You are like, wait a minute.

25:09

She is not back on my soda. It is seven minutes.

25:11

Appetizers are supposed to be done right now. 15 minutes, oh yeah, absolutely.

25:16

Yeah. But I get you. But yeah, some of the women that have worked in like strip

25:19

clubs or whatnot that are in the bathroom, they're usually older.

25:22

And so I will try to, compensate, but $5 and all you did was hand

25:27

me a napkin and turn on the water. I don't know. I

25:29

Tiara: honestly don't think I've ever been anywhere that had a

25:32

bathroom attendant while I was there. I've been to a few places that had that service available during I guess certain

25:39

times or whatever, but we didn't go with those times, or it would be like a

25:43

fancy hotel that some roller Derby thing was happening in, which was ridiculous

25:48

because we'd all be walking around and fish nets with all the fancy people.

25:51

But you know, that would be like the extent of, I don't know.

25:54

I've never been, never really been anywhere.

25:57

Fancy. I guess I tend to like the dive bars in the strip clubs that you can't see where

26:04

MJ: you're lacking. I've been at half hat, whereas strip clubs.

26:07

That's why I'm like not tipping to do $5 unless you like are spraying me down with

26:10

the cologne and attendant in the bathroom.

26:14

Tiara: I go to the dive bar, strip clubs too, though. Like the fancy ones make me.

26:19

MJ: Yeah. Most of them out here, like we're just going to one in Sacramento.

26:22

They damn for sure. They barely have a bathroom, so they damn for sure.

26:24

Don't have a bathroom attendant, but this is like Vegas level.

26:29

Tiara: I don't think I've ever actually gone to see I've seen burlesque and

26:32

Vegas, but I don't think I've ever seen more than showgirl type stuff

26:38

MJ: fun. And I'm just talking about basic downtown ratchet.

26:42

I always say the whole of Rochester is a ghetto.

26:44

The suburbs are very, very, very, very, very wealthy, but the city

26:48

is very, very, very, very ghetto. Although there are a lot of rich people there too.

26:52

Someone I used to date told me Rochester had at that time, the biggest

26:56

disparity between wealth and poverty in the country at that time, I guess,

27:01

but like these clubs I think would just do it to try to emulate class.

27:06

Like it was pretty much everywhere if you went out dancing, like

27:09

I wasn't going anywhere fancy. I was just going to the popular nightclubs, doing

27:13

hood, rat shit with my friends. So they would always just have the bathroom attendant, and they

27:18

never badgered you or bugged you to tip or anything like the jar

27:22

sat there on the bathroom counter and you would just put whatever

27:26

in new, York's a little different.

27:28

And that's why people always say it's one of the best cities in

27:31

the world because of that culture.

27:33

Like they try to keep, a certain culture of going well, there's New York and

27:38

San Francisco and everything else. Yeah. That's that part, Hoby just pointed something else out.

27:44

We don't go to clubs anymore either. So that go hell.

27:46

Now every single club Tiara: right now. True.

27:49

I don't go to, yeah, I'm old and broken.

27:52

And the clubs that I do go in are usually again, dive bars or golf clubs,

27:56

MJ: and that's the only place I want to be. I D I never do.

27:58

I want to that Kim Kardashians get, they did on SNL

28:02

Tiara: where she will sleep. Yep.

28:05

MJ: That's it. That's the total or the other one has to shit.

28:12

You've got to watch it. So you have to watch it.

28:16

But once again, Dean's probably this is nothing yet.

28:19

He's doing the wrap it up. Tiara: So, Robert runs out of the bathroom with the attendant screaming.

28:26

You lucky I can't leave this restroom nigga. Like how intimidating is the bathroom attendant?

28:32

Oh, really? Right. So you're right.

28:35

He heads back to the table and he sees ruckus interrogating Ebony.

28:38

He runs over and tells him to leave at this point in the sh

28:42

so there are literally like three words that hurt my heart.

28:45

And one of them was in this episode, and I know a lot of people don't hear this word

28:50

and think negativity negatively about it.

28:54

But the word, R E T a R D is a word that should not ever be

28:59

applied to a human being in my. Not just my personal opinion, but also my professional opinion.

29:05

And so it, that, that word showed up in this episode in relation to ruckus.

29:10

And I just wanted to point that out and move on, but I wanted to point that out

29:15

MJ: about, I agree. And it is still rampant black culture.

29:19

A lot of people say it, I don't know about white culture.

29:21

I don't know what y'all do, but black culture, Tiara: I think white culture is saying it a lot less now because it's they

29:29

will point it out to each other. Because it's not a racial thing, it's easy.

29:32

Oh, I can call out that white person for the stupid white thing.

29:35

They said it had nothing to do with race. So therefore, so I see that a lot.

29:38

There, there are movements where it's God, what is it?

29:41

I don't know. I've seen it. I've seen a couple of things I can't think of right now, but it's like the movement

29:45

to end the word and it's the R word,

29:47

MJ: and yeah, so yeah,

29:51

Tiara: That's, that is something that has been a part of my entire life

29:56

that has bothered me my entire life.

29:58

So I always try to call people out when they do that, because there

30:02

is no need for that word to ever be applied to a human because not

30:05

even science does that anymore. MJ: Totally agree.

30:09

Tiara: Yeah. It's not the S word Dean says. Which I'd forgotten about until you said it, password spear, shocker.

30:20

Remember MJ: I was dunking, how's a nigga going to borrow a fire.

30:28

He would say the Tiara: S word, but he fucking spirit.

30:32

Okay. Anyway so Robert tells him to leave.

30:35

Ebony says that she finds, Rick is funny, even though his views are reprehensible

30:38

and that is, but his views help her take a look at herself critically.

30:41

This was our opening little thing because it, the way that rec is

30:48

responded to this was just hilarious.

30:50

He was not just surprised, but honestly looked like he was like star

30:56

struck all of a sudden, like this beautiful wound was just nice to me.

31:00

MJ: Despite the fact that she's a black woman, not to say she, they

31:03

drew, it was animated, but they did draw her where she was attractive.

31:07

And I don't know if it was just because of her whole demeanor.

31:09

She wasn't one of the crazier ones or what, but it was like, okay, I can see it.

31:12

And then part of me was like, what she call it old ass grandpa.

31:15

Tiara: I was actually wondering that myself, like it did seem I understood why

31:20

where suspicion would come from all of their friends when this beautiful woman

31:23

just, picks up an old man at the park

31:27

MJ: lesson, Lynxi: As a girl with a husband who is seven years older than her

31:34

Tiara: and I did is like 20 years.

31:37

Maybe more than MJ: that, no, he went to the doctor and he hadn't been to, they said he hadn't

31:41

been to the doctor in 57 years and this

31:44

Tiara: all right. So she's maybe in her thirties

31:49

Lynxi: at one point I didn't go through with it, but I was some I was talking to.

31:53

Right. We weren't dating, but I was talking to a politician and I had to be maybe.

32:00

Eight at that time. And he had to be maybe 50 something, obviously going through a midlife crisis.

32:06

But I didn't like him because of daddy issues.

32:09

I have always my first boyfriend was a year younger than me, but

32:12

I have always liked older men. Why?

32:15

Because they vibe on a different level than men, my age.

32:18

And that's no shade to anyone my age at 35 now.

32:21

Sure. I would probably meet men who are more on my maturity level.

32:24

But when I was in my twenties look at the shit we talk about on this podcast, I'd be

32:28

like, oh, do you guys want to talk about the Pablo Picasso exhibit that's going

32:34

on at the Rochester art museum right now?

32:36

And they'd be like, girl, I want to talk about these fucking nuts.

32:38

And I was not with it. I'm interested in

32:41

MJ: PD Pablo. Lynxi: Exactly.

32:45

And my parents were older. My parents, my mom had me when she was 36.

32:49

So keep in mind. I'm one of those kids who grew up with a lot older parents and my friends.

32:53

I'm having a lot older conversations. I'm doing the twist, chubby checker and all this kind of bullshit

32:59

instead of whipping and naming. So it just when you become older, I just always liked the sophistication,

33:05

the conversation that I got from older people, not even just men,

33:09

like older ladies, as friends hanging out with the older crowd at work.

33:13

That's my crew. That's who I vibed with making those dirty jokes, double

33:17

entendres, dah, dah, dah, dah. So I guess.

33:20

And I hate people always try and throw that out there.

33:23

Like you're a gold Digger and we get into that a little bit later in the episode

33:27

with Riley, but you're a gold Digger.

33:29

Oh, she's just going to take your money when you die.

33:31

Did you deal nah, nah. Y'all niggas just suck in your conversation skills.

33:36

Not all of you, I'm not coming for anyone, but that's just what it is.

33:41

Yeah. MJ: It's similar to, same with hubby.

33:44

His mom was older and I think that kind of, same for him.

33:46

Like he likes a lot of older shows music, that he has

33:50

memories of and stuff like that. And then, I may be a couple of, a little bit older than him.

33:55

But yeah, I think I guess it does have to do with your your growing

33:58

up in your environment and, yeah. There's a yeah, a young lady who, who's got the campground on who heard it at

34:03

75 and she's just it is what it is.

34:05

And I'm waiting for the next one that I can groom into me.

34:08

And, my, Tiara: yeah.

34:11

I don't know either. Dean is 10 years older than me and that is the largest age difference

34:16

I've had with anyone since I was 16. And we won't go into that age difference because neither of us

34:21

knew how old the other one was. MJ: Yeah.

34:25

Tiara: Anyway, it happened.

34:28

Like I, as I get older, I definitely like Dean and I were just

34:32

talking about this the other day. I. Definitely have an appreciation for older men.

34:36

Now they like Oscar, Isaac.

34:40

We watched dune and I was like, Oscar, Isaac can be my daddy.

34:43

I wouldn't know him. Like even him in like star wars just a few years ago.

34:47

I did not find attractive at all. But now that he's like gray and grew a beard and I'm like, Ooh, okay,

34:53

MJ: That's like the Isley brothers when they did their versus thing

34:55

that they did own near hell Keller woman were like, oh, he could be

35:01

that he liked, that was a big thing.

35:03

And he it's what it is too, is if we look at it and think about it,

35:06

I will say this the other day, look at we're a lot younger than what our

35:08

parents were, I think at our age. So I think that age difference doesn't become as prevalent as it is when

35:14

you're, 20 and 60 or 70 or whatnot.

35:18

I think my whole thought was because I felt like we know

35:21

grandpop's, you know what I'm saying? It like, you see so much older than what, whatever it may be, but I loved

35:27

how she was so interested in his life and found that everything was

35:30

so interesting, and it wasn't in a,

35:33

Tiara: she paid such close attention that she saw the actual grandad,

35:38

which he had never shown anybody else.

35:40

And he, I like MJ: that you would she was like, I'm comfortable with who I am.

35:43

I, I am who I am. I would love to be a part of who you are and what your life entails.

35:47

I love that act like when she was saying that and she wants to be a main character.

35:50

I was like, first of all right, we're going to play that

35:52

role because those are bars. Yeah, what you're saying is is very true.

35:58

She was very, cause everybody else was crazy that we know of.

36:02

And then they were very self-centered the women that he's dated.

36:04

So I think that, that was the different Susan. She was like, oh wait.

36:07

I was like, she's really into it. Like not faithfully, but for real.

36:10

Right. But yeah. Yeah. Right. All right.

36:13

Yeah. Okay. Moving on. Tiara: That was there.

36:18

I want to talk more about what you just said, but we will talk

36:20

about as let's see, did I, yeah. As the date continues, Robert regales, Ebony about his times with MLK and

36:27

Jesse Jackson about Jesse Jackson threatening to cut his nips nuts off

36:31

because he, he touched MLK sandwich.

36:34

She's amazed at his adventures and ruckus brings the check to the table

36:38

and much to his shock Ebony picks.

36:41

Back at home. Granddad is telling the boys that Ebony is different and that he's checked her out.

36:46

Riley is concerned. MJ: You just won't learn, check her out.

36:51

I'm telling you she's wonderful, better than wonderful.

36:53

You sure. She's not going to hurt anybody. Most positive.

36:56

I fall in love again.

37:00

He went, I could see it in his side. She's coming over tonight.

37:02

You two are going to behave. Got it. Why don't you just sign your retirement benefits over to her all your bank

37:08

accounts you just met her yesterday was taking so long shut up and you,

37:13

you went enabled enabling ass nigga.

37:19

So Tiara: that's what we were just talking about.

37:22

Riley is certain that this woman that granddad just met can only possibly

37:28

be interested in him because of his money or she thinks he has money.

37:32

Huey is is not very vocal about how he feels.

37:36

You just basically wants granddad to be careful.

37:39

And, I think Huey is taking a very appropriate approach to this where he's

37:44

like granddad, you make terrible choices.

37:48

And those choices have consequences that usually hurt us or someone

37:52

else in the neighborhood. So maybe you should just not do this so fast.

37:58

Whereas Riley is like just saying that enables.

38:04

MJ: Like, why are we wasting our breath? What it is.

38:06

Tiara: So the next evening, Ebony, the Dubois's and the Freeman family are

38:10

all having dinner at the Freeman home. They're having a chat about Robert's past relationships and are all happy that

38:16

he's met Ebony just then reca shows up.

38:20

He begins interrogating Ebony about her work.

38:23

She tells how she works for a nonprofit who helped cure Patterson's disease.

38:27

When Sarah hears this, she tells Ebony how her grandmother had had it.

38:31

And then she sobbing hugs, Ebony.

38:33

And thanks her for saving her Nana. Of course, all of this, like what, I didn't say there was, nobody believed her

38:39

at first because she, the what's her name?

38:43

My brain never heard of it. Yeah. They had never heard of it.

38:45

And Sarah was out of the room. She was the only one who had heard of it.

38:48

So when she came back, everyone was like, oh, this is, this is real.

38:51

Okay. Later as everyone's leaving Tom and Sarah, talk about how amazing

38:55

Ebony is and when ruckus comes in and he says, it's all a trap.

38:59

Robert shoves him out the door, even Riley and Hughie can't

39:02

find any fault with Ebony. The Riley still thinks she's just going to wait until he dies to take his money.

39:08

I love the L the last line of that scene. He's let's call her a business woman.

39:11

Cause again, he just thinks that this is all a business transaction.

39:15

It must be. Next, we see Robert in his bathroom looking at himself in the mirror.

39:19

He steps out of the bathroom and into the bedroom where Ebony is standing

39:22

there, nightgown on and with the glass of wine in her hand, she sits on the bed.

39:27

As Robert does a little dance takes off his robe and then turns off the light

39:32

is also wearing his bunny slippers. They begin to make love and she asks if they can turn on the lights,

39:37

Robert is a bit insecure about this.

39:39

Ebony understands. So one question that came up for both kind of Dean and I, as we were

39:44

watching this one, why did he do a little cute strip tease dance to

39:50

make her laugh and then get insecure?

39:54

MJ: Yeah, I didn't get that. You wanted the lights off.

39:57

You just were in a banana. Well, is that about.

40:02

She didn't want him to see his old face. Tiara: That's gotta be

40:06

Lynxi: for real that's what I was going to say. Also, people like big, right?

40:09

When you're doing a sexy dance, you have control of the room.

40:13

You have control of the situation when you're, if you're really fucking, you

40:16

don't know what the fuck, I'm a lights off person, because I'm a control freak.

40:19

I turn the lights off. I don't want you to, know what I look like when I'm all out of sorts.

40:25

So I get it. I get it. All right.

40:27

Tiara: Okay. And you go just so MJ: you know.

40:31

No. Yeah. And I'm sure I feel like it's probably came pretty quickly.

40:36

I was gonna say, especially because grandpa's a little bit older, his

40:39

office is probably like quick and like long, last you know what I'm saying?

40:44

Like Tiara: tremor, like they thought he was like, I think they would have

40:49

showed him taking Viagra or something if he had an issue with that.

40:53

Yeah. I don't know. I feel like maybe granddad's still has all of that.

40:59

MJ: Oh, I think I'll tell because they never been approached before.

41:03

They're like, this was a, if you want to call it a love scene, this was the first

41:06

love scene that I can recall that it was that like apparent what was going on.

41:10

So I think that's probably why that wasn't, that topic wasn't but

41:14

anyways, he, he tries to appear that he's in good health, he

41:16

was jogging earlier in episodes. So maybe that's what, that's what it was too, that she was attracted to him

41:20

because he maybe still being somewhat. Intelligent.

41:23

She liked to stories. So maybe that Tiara: it's not like he can disguise the fact that he has a belly,

41:29

whatever he's wearing, you see it. MJ: And yeah.

41:33

If this was on now, they definitely would've had a blue chew, like

41:35

reference or commercial in there. Tiara: Something, something having to do with, maybe not even the blue pill,

41:40

because that's kind of, I don't want to say mainstream, but that's normalized

41:43

now, but like some kind of joke about an extended extends pill or something.

41:51

MJ: The one that makes that's a popular thing right now, everybody using the

41:57

minus sponsor, it's all over the place. It's like the new, when it comes to, yeah, it's not a, it comes

42:02

through the street lead to you. You don't have to have a prescription.

42:05

You just go on the website, answer a few questions, talk to the doctors,

42:07

which you don't really talk. You just answer questions back and forth and then they send it to you every month.

42:13

Yeah. Kiddos do.

42:17

Sometimes Tiara: those new things turn out scary.

42:19

That's all I'm saying. MJ: Yeah.

42:22

At least. They're actual it's proof. It's something such a low dose that it's not supposed to

42:26

cause any long-term effects. Cause people that are taking them may not necessarily need

42:31

them health wise, but yeah. Yeah.

42:35

And I'll Lynxi: leave the conversation where my sister, the advice my sister passed on

42:40

to me when we were having the, why do you like the lights off conversation?

42:44

And she said, my oldest sister, Lindsey, if you're worried about what you

42:49

look like, you're not fucking right.

42:55

MJ: So there that, Tiara: That, that is the best fucking answer right there.

42:58

If you are in, you are doing it right.

43:00

You aren't thinking about the fact that they're not, and they're not

43:03

looking at you like that either. They're probably got their eyes closed or cross.

43:11

MJ: Kind of side similar story is that mark Hamill told about when

43:15

they were shooting the first star wars and they were in the trash

43:17

compactor and his hair was all wet.

43:20

And then he came the next scene. He's I'll clean and dry.

43:23

And so he asked Lucas about, he goes, shouldn't I be wet and stuff.

43:26

And Harrison Ford stops kid. This is not that kind of picture.

43:30

If they're looking at your hair, then you're doing something wrong.

43:36

Very true. Now, see, now you guys make me feel bad where I'm like all critical about

43:39

the adult films that we watched, the Pronos, her shoes are ugly.

43:44

Oh my God, those earrings, Lynxi: I think

43:46

Tiara: different. That is absolutely different though. That is on film for mass consumption.

43:55

MJ: They planned that Tiara: they wore those earrings on purpose.

44:00

MJ: Okay. Let it go. Tiara: I had a boyfriend once a million years ago that told me that I should

44:06

direct porn because I was always so critical of all the sh is not comfortable.

44:12

That is not an angle that you would do if the camera was not there,

44:15

MJ: who wants to do on an island of the kitchen, like four movies

44:21

already, like directors out. For sure.

44:25

I Tiara: might know some people who would talk to you about

44:27

that, but anyway, I'm like MJ: serious. I'm like I'm in, we going to hire some like makeup students, like

44:31

cosmetology students to come and do the makeup and keep that shit up.

44:34

Oh yeah. Well, if I have to buy the outfits, I will not want to see you wearing something

44:38

that you should have worn in 1984. Tiara: Next we see Ebony and Robert on a date at the art museum.

44:44

Then walking on the beach, followed by playing rock band.

44:47

The boys finally, they're watching sunset while doing so.

44:51

Ebony asks is asking Robert about his adventures with all

44:54

of the characters in his life. I just love your loving.

44:57

You have these crazy adventures with these bizarre

44:59

MJ: characters and it's so much, it's fun, never thought about it.

45:02

Like that seemed like a bunch of problems to me.

45:04

Love it. That you find people with a belt. I Tiara: love it.

45:06

That you're friends with a pimp named a pimp named slick back.

45:09

I love that Riley thinks everything is gay.

45:11

I know I shouldn't like any of these things, but I do.

45:14

Yeah, I guess it is kind of fun. I want to be a character, a

45:18

MJ: cameo or reoccurring Tiara: without going into any potential deeper meaning.

45:25

Cause I think we, I'm going to have Dean talk about that a little bit.

45:28

When we get to the end of this that seemed to me was one of the most sweet and

45:33

sincere things I've seen on this show that like we finally think that maybe grandad

45:40

is getting the woman of his dreams.

45:44

Like genuinely, she has everything that he wants and she thinks all of

45:51

his stupid shit is funny and cute

45:55

MJ: and can handle it. It was the sweetest. Like I found myself like, oh my God, I could have totally seen

45:59

that in a romcom or something. But yeah, that was very sweet.

46:03

And it showed also how she took the time to, like I said, once again and not being

46:07

about her, but being about integrating in his life he had responsibilities still.

46:12

I love the rock band thing. Cause that was how me and I spent so many nights.

46:15

Yeah. I would like, I was like, I wish we could find the whole

46:18

rock band set now, like that Tiara: we've been cleaning out our storage and I keep finding pieces of our rock band

46:25

set, but I don't think any of it works. Lynxi: My husband still plays that shit.

46:30

That's like his de-stressor since I'm not fucking right, but yes.

46:37

Oh my God. Like he's got to meet he loved them.

46:39

J he's got to meet you all, but y'all have never witnessed what's about to happen.

46:43

Like when you're like, oh, we thought he found it and did it like y'all, haven't

46:47

either been through this yourself or just watched a friend go through it.

46:52

Like he Tiara: found it too good to be.

46:57

MJ: But definitely waiting on another shoe to drop.

46:59

Right. Like I was like, okay, let's get over the hump. Now let's talk about that.

47:03

Tiara: Cause that's that let's move on. Cause that's what grandad, that's what his experience is.

47:07

So back at home, Robert and the boys are talking about Ebony.

47:12

MJ: The perfect moment. What's the problem. She too good to me is, is she said, no.

47:16

She says she likes and accepts me for what? So what's the problem.

47:19

She doesn't know the real meat. No one normal can not the real meat have to do something

47:23

dressing before I screwed up. I should try to be someone totally different.

47:26

You know, my terrorists or Chris brown, someone who's not a dirty old man.

47:30

Makes sense. And I shouldn't tell her how much I like her women like to treat soon as she thinks

47:34

she's got me, she's going to move on to another old man to set it for her sick.

47:38

Oh man. Fetish. Nah, she probably just got a young thing on her side.

47:41

Another man, of course, with all these young men with good blood pressure

47:44

running around and he's probably be bumped to real buff my buff.

47:50

Nah, no.

47:52

He probably has been on his team. The GM getting strong.

47:55

I bet she thinks of him everyday. Even when she's with me, especially where she withdrew Glenda, this is silly.

48:00

She obviously likes you just relax and be yourself.

48:04

Never work. Tiara: No one can love the real me.

48:08

I should try to be someone doing. Lynxi: But that is the thought, like I pick this one for so many reasons first.

48:15

That is the thought process of so many of y'all fake motherfuckers out

48:19

here, not even just in romance and friendship in business and everything.

48:24

It's all about putting projecting this image of what you think

48:28

other people want and other, yeah.

48:30

They respond doing the same and y'all get caught up in this fake bullshit.

48:35

First of all, if you, if I meet MJ and I start dating MJ and I'm fake as fuck

48:40

to impress MJ, that means you have to keep up this fake as fuck persona

48:45

for the rest of your fucking life. You

48:47

MJ: want to do that. I want to do that as tiring.

48:50

And you just, and then you're blocking your actual true blessing

48:53

and meeting somebody who could be there to love the real you, the

48:58

real you and all of your flaws.

49:01

That's so much more rewarding than you putting up a front and

49:03

then being in this fake ass. And then one day you get

49:07

Lynxi: tired or sick and you don't want to do it anymore, or you can't do it anymore.

49:10

And then that person is out the door and you want to write them off as,

49:14

oh, well, she was a gold Digger. She was with me for my money.

49:17

She's this and that. And this and that. Not dude.

49:19

You came into this with a fake persona.

49:22

I'm sorry. I've been through MJ: this shit. Y'all yeah.

49:25

And so have I, and it's damaging to the person that's involved with you

49:28

because that person was all in and no matter what you were putting out

49:31

there, they thought that's what was the real you, so now you've then

49:34

hurt somebody where they're probably going to go and hurt somebody else,

49:37

Tiara: or at least not trust to somebody because of you.

49:40

Yeah. So yeah, and we don't know how long, like how many we know approximately

49:45

how many dates this was, but we don't know if it was all like in the same

49:49

week or if it was spread out over. A period of

49:51

MJ: time. Yeah. Cause they do like to make stuff seem a whole lot longer than what they is.

49:55

And then grandpa's in Cuba for a day or whatever.

49:57

It was like Tiara: total.

50:00

Like we, we'll get into why that whole idea of it being, how

50:04

long or how short something is. It's something I love about this show is that you never really

50:11

quite know how much they're showing you until the reveal at the end.

50:16

Yeah. MJ: And to

50:18

Lynxi: little old men out there. MJ: Go ahead and

50:24

Lynxi: listen. I genuinely have liked every old quote unquote man I've dated.

50:30

I do not. I never dated for money.

50:32

I didn't fucking have to, not to sound like a fucking Dick head.

50:35

I didn't have to. And it just is what it is.

50:38

I just like people I'm a CPO sexual.

50:41

Danielle says she hates when I say that she hates that term,

50:44

but I am, if you can wow.

50:46

Me with your intelligence and your wet and shit.

50:49

I'm just like, I'm all in. It's if you are going to get on this funny shit, which I said earlier, oh, I

50:56

dated almost dated an older politician.

51:00

I'm going to tell you exactly why it didn't work out in a few moments.

51:05

Tiara: Alright. Alright. Robert goes to the local radio shack to buy spy equipment to track Ebony's

51:11

moves because he thinks it called though shady, shady, shady rack.

51:16

He buys a GPS device and places it on her car as she's going about her

51:20

business, Robert and ruckus follow behind. They spy on her in a yoga class and see that she's getting help from

51:26

an attractive men man in her class.

51:28

And talking to all the other men, Robert is brokenhearted.

51:31

Ruckus of course is, egging on the fact that she's so beautiful.

51:34

What would she want with him? MJ: Well, that's because he likes her

51:41

Tiara: as Robert and Ebony are out together later.

51:44

She sees the Robert has an earring in it's a bell, which for some

51:47

reason when she brings it up to him, he gets really sensitive about it.

51:51

As he's being defensive about it, he starts imagining all the other

51:54

men around are leering at Ebony.

51:56

This makes him terribly jealous. He starts yelling at everyone around him, telling them to stop looking at her.

52:03

Then he finds someone he thinks is the weakest looking

52:05

man among them and goes to. The next thing we see is Robert holding an ice pack against his head.

52:11

He apologizes to Ebony. There's so

52:14

MJ: many sexier man out there, like ball boars, cultural, or the

52:17

British sophistication of EGS elbow. I don't want to date those guys.

52:21

I've Tiara: already dated those guys. I'm kidding.

52:25

MJ: Whoo. Tiara: An asshole.

52:31

She dated those guys and found out she didn't want them.

52:33

She wanted somebody with some more substance, and she's saying that to

52:36

you and you're calling her a fucking ho MJ: yeah.

52:39

While you're wearing a tee ball or whatever those things, that's what

52:44

Tiara: Johnny Depp scarf and a fucking jingle bell on his areas.

52:48

It was horrible. And also I, it, this idea that to the only way to be attractive is to be a

52:58

muscly, like perfectly chiseled man really needs to go away just in general.

53:04

I know that in this, it makes total sense because granddad thinks

53:08

that's, that's gotta be the ideal body and I definitely don't have it.

53:11

But just, I, I wish more men would realize more men presenting bodies

53:17

realize that we like all of them.

53:20

MJ: Same. And I'm sure they say the same thing about us. What was interesting about this was that was the underlying message.

53:25

Like men still go through the same kind of insecure.

53:29

And they have a standard to meet as well, through media and whatnot.

53:33

They didn't put somebody big and they didn't put Tracy Morgan in the role

53:37

of Thor or something like that, like

53:48

no, no, no.

53:59

have you, grappled was like,

54:04

Lynxi: right. That is the clip.

54:07

Yes. Y'all are already covering it though.

54:10

That is what I hate that shit from men.

54:12

I hate it. And so many of y'all fucking do that shit.

54:15

I, not the old politician, but I definitely had a guy who was dating before

54:20

we were not in a committed relationship.

54:22

I met, he asked me out and I was like, oh, I got an, a I'm with, I got

54:25

another date, which was my husband. And he was like, well, that's kind of Polish of you.

54:29

Is it because we are in the same friend circle.

54:33

I know you're fucking other people. MJ: guys, The guys, fuck other guys.

54:43

Fuck women. Where did I read that? Are they all fucking the same woman?

54:46

Is that what they're thinking? These guys who say this stuff to only the one home, there's only one how everybody

54:52

Tiara: else is a Virgin about the fact that when a man fucks a woman,

54:56

his penis changes the shape of her vagina so that every other man,

55:03

MJ: I can finish that sentence. So much cap, right?

55:07

We want it, we want to know somebody who knows what they're doing and it's not

55:11

like you just learn that on your own. If she is a ho and one, I believe that we, we don't shame, it

55:18

could be a king for somebody. It could just be so happy and liberated.

55:23

There's nothing wrong. I think with women understanding who they are sexually and you go through

55:27

shit and that means you have to try different ones and different things and

55:30

go through some bullshit and learn some shit to be able to be that perfect.

55:34

Sexual partner, when you get with somebody that is like your soulmate, or you

55:37

want to give everything to, I think a real man appreciates and respects that.

55:41

And when you're in a real adult relationship, you can be honest about your

55:44

past and it could either be a benefit.

55:48

Or if, one of the people are insecure, then it could be a detriment, but

55:52

that wouldn't be the only thing, it's going to be that or something. Tiara: Let it roll off your back or let it be a growth opportunity.

55:57

Let it be a chance to I don't know about any of you out there any

56:00

listeners out there, but I hated sex for the first leg while and tell it

56:07

started feeling more comfortable and I was more comfortable with myself.

56:10

So not having sex would equal sex being uncomfortable, like just physically.

56:17

I don't know. I, it seems like such a stupid fucking thing to even like

56:23

what fucking year is it? It's, it

56:25

MJ: could be a thing that actually unites us all because Tiara: the sexual revolution was on my mom's

56:30

MJ: youth. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I'm one of the weird people.

56:33

Like he goes, I always go, I wonder what kind of sex they have.

56:36

I look a couple of my bed is good.

56:39

I bet it's not, and it's just because I, everybody is sexual.

56:43

For the most part, majority of our society is and it's

56:45

something that we have in common. And it's something that we all have questions about or, something that we may

56:50

be a little shy about or whatever, like we all have the same emotion surrounding it.

56:54

But then aids came around or reverted people.

56:59

It'd be more common for people to be like 10, eight threesomes

57:04

and just being more sexual now. Definitely from like the eighties to the nineties, it was not very nose

57:11

taboo for you to do anything outside.

57:14

Honestly, the eighties to fucking 2015, like it's it's, I think it's just

57:18

now, because there are more, there's more access to that information and

57:21

people are, one, one channel alone TLC, they love putting shit like that.

57:25

Like they love having shows like that, so when you have more platforms

57:28

that are broadcasting it and showing, showcasing it or putting shining a

57:32

light on it the numbers start to go in a different direction as far as

57:35

what's acceptable and what's not. And that's, I think people are starting to just get get the fuck out of my business.

57:40

It's also, Tiara: who's coming of age right now and who's driving the narrative.

57:45

And a lot of those 20 somethings are, they're growing up in a

57:50

world where the vaccines for HIV are starting to hit the market.

57:55

We, our generation grew up with aids, basically starting at our birth.

58:01

So we grew up. Like basically, you should be terrified of having unprotected sex because not

58:08

just because you might get pregnant, but because you could die where, where's most

58:12

STRs are completely treatable or it, or,

58:17

MJ: which is why they change it from disease right now,

58:19

Tiara: It's infection instead of dis-ease, which I fully, I love the

58:24

idea that because again, being driven by this younger generation that

58:28

isn't embarrassed people are talking about things where you hear more

58:32

women talking about their periods. You've got advertisement that, that fall on says that women take a shit.

58:39

And I fucking love that because I hate all of the lakes.

58:46

I hate all of the bullshit, like fakeness of society.

58:50

And I know that this is my autistic brain. I'm constantly questioning why everyone has to be so uptight.

58:56

And so when I see things like that, it just, it makes me happy when

58:59

I hear in, in a Facebook group that I'm in people talking about.

59:05

Testing for STI and how completely normalized the conversation is and how

59:09

people are being supportive of each other and telling them what to ask for

59:13

and reminding them what doesn't get done regularly, because there are certain

59:17

STI that don't even get tested for any more, because they are so prevalent.

59:20

Yeah. MJ: And it's, I think it's it has to do with, the, our increase in providing a

59:24

better medical treatment in most states.

59:27

And also with, at our age, you have to get a letter to be able to go to the

59:31

doctor by yourself as a young woman.

59:33

Now you can be 13 years old and make an appointment to go get

59:36

your first pap smear or whatever. So it's allowing it's having those conversations.

59:41

It's allowing, us not acting like, oh Nope, 13 year olds don't have

59:44

sex when we know that they do. So let's make sure that they're informed and that they're taken care of not

59:49

listening to their friends who go to the planned parenthood, which may or may

59:52

not be open or, look at Texas right now.

59:54

Out of, I think they allow planned Parenthoods to be open.

59:57

For a Tiara: second there sorry, I was going to say planned parenthood is probably

1:00:01

the best thing that ever happened to sexual education and sexual health.

1:00:06

But it because our country is the way it is and we are governed by

1:00:11

the people we are governed by. Everything has to be made political.

1:00:17

MJ: So like bullshit and a woman's right.

1:00:20

A woman's reproductive system and health should not be, but that's.

1:00:23

Like I said, look at Texas, it is still made, a platform and it's still governed

1:00:27

by idiots who have never a day in their life, had it period, or a child or or

1:00:31

anything else, so yeah it it's, there are definitely some pluses and things

1:00:36

I don't like to see 16 and pregnant. They're giving credit to that show, as many, fucked up women as they

1:00:40

may have produced from it, anyway as adults, but they have, they do

1:00:44

credit that with the reduction in in teen pregnancy, in the country.

1:00:48

I Tiara: absolutely believe it when my oldest stepdaughter was in middle school,

1:00:52

I think it was one of her friends, sisters got pregnant and had a baby and

1:00:56

I absolutely 100% credit that for, to be the fact that most, the reason why

1:01:00

most of her friends don't have kids yet. Like they learned early on that having a baby is going to be awesome one day.

1:01:08

Yeah. MJ: Right now, not so much.

1:01:11

And if you remember at least now when you think back about it, people in

1:01:15

high school and stuff, when we were in high school, if they were pregnant,

1:01:18

they ended up being taken out of school before they started to show.

1:01:21

So you never really saw that now you'll have a girl that they won't necessarily

1:01:25

take our school or, I'm just saying they're still friends when they still

1:01:28

communicate, they're not being sent off. So they're able to see him more to be like, I don't want to do that.

1:01:32

Yeah. Yeah. They sent our girls to continuation school.

1:01:35

They could be there maybe until they started showing. And at that time, everybody knew because for some reason, everybody, all the girls.

1:01:42

In high school, but they did not finish there.

1:01:44

And they were not even able to walk with the class even after they have the child.

1:01:48

Tiara: I remember when I was in high school that there were girls that were

1:01:51

visibly pregnant when I was there, but I don't remember any of them still

1:01:55

being there when they had their baby. But I don't know if that's just, one of those things where they had the

1:02:00

baby and then they were gone for six months because they just had a baby

1:02:03

or they had to go somewhere else where they dropped out or whatever.

1:02:06

I don't have that memory. MJ: Yeah.

1:02:09

Yeah. I know that. None of them, I don't, I, and I knew clearly a couple that pretty

1:02:13

close, but they were not allowed. They were very, they were a motivated, and recommended very highly to go to

1:02:19

the continuation school because it was going to be so much easier on her.

1:02:22

When the baby came, I went to Catholic school.

1:02:24

So you can guess the

1:02:26

Tiara: answer. If I saw nobody, nobody had sex at Catholic school, my sister

1:02:33

was been to Catholic school. I totally know that. That's

1:02:36

MJ: I Lynxi: am a Nazareth girl called the hose on the hill, but I'm sorry.

1:02:42

Go ahead, hubby. MJ: Yeah, I was just going to say, I agree, girl, girls who went to

1:02:47

Catholic school, they were they were like easier to get them to, go

1:02:50

somewhere with the after school, then it wasn't, it was going to public school.

1:02:54

There's one specific school out in the bay area.

1:02:57

They call it like they, yeah, they call them their name of their school is a W2.

1:03:00

Allegedly I wasn't there when this space was too, it's a double-edged

1:03:07

sword wholly and then yeah.

1:03:10

Yeah. And out here at St. Francis, then we call it the St.

1:03:12

Francis go that the Saint fruits, that's what they were known as Ugh.

1:03:16

Tiara: I hate that.

1:03:18

I remember what the nicknames were for the Catholic kids when I was growing up.

1:03:22

But they were not, they weren't sexually based.

1:03:24

They were all about like them being unattractive.

1:03:29

Right? Like it's stupid shit that teenagers did.

1:03:32

But yeah. I remember like when I was a freshman in high school, one of my best friends

1:03:37

who went to Catholic school was like, my mom still thinks I'm a Virgin, but

1:03:41

I get the best blow jobs at school. And I'm like, okay, this is all right then,

1:03:45

All right. Let's let's see. Where were we? back at home.

1:03:48

Yeah. Back at home. Out on the back porch, Robert is sitting on the steps.

1:03:52

Riley is giving him grief for fighting for her granddad tells Riley that Ebony

1:03:57

is going to give him another chance. Riley then brings up how long it's been since she called him.

1:04:02

Robert goes to leave her a very pathetic voicemail.

1:04:07

One of the things that was really funny about that scene was granted.

1:04:10

It was basically like, I'm not going to listen to you. And then he continues to listen to rarely and Lynn digs in even harder.

1:04:17

And so then rubber was, oh, what was that?

1:04:21

It was very sad. It was, oh, it was so sad.

1:04:24

It got sadder. Robert returns to the bench where he sat with Ebony during the sunset,

1:04:30

watching other couples walk by and feeling sorry for himself.

1:04:33

He checks his phone, no new messages.

1:04:36

He goes back home and starts depression, eating and crying.

1:04:40

He checks his phone again, still no messages.

1:04:43

He retreats to his bedroom, checking his messages.

1:04:45

Again, nothing Riley bursts into the room, telling granddad he's

1:04:50

found her she's in Malaysia. He tries to downplay it, but Riley thinks that she's there for the

1:04:55

inexpensive male prostitutes. Robert decides he's going to Malaysia.

1:05:02

So then the next scene is Robert arriving in Malaysia and he

1:05:07

starts traveling from village to village, asking everyone he finds.

1:05:10

If they have seen her eventually finding her, he asks her why she

1:05:15

left without saying anything. She says it's been 16 hours.

1:05:19

And the flight is 12 hours long.

1:05:22

She says she tried to call, but the phone doesn't work here.

1:05:25

She tells him that she's there because of the typhoon.

1:05:29

I'm really shocked that you came all the way out here, but

1:05:33

MJ: it's not healthy. Look at you. You look at exhausted and stressed and I don't know, I don't want

1:05:39

to have this effect on you. You don't look happy.

1:05:42

What might you think? I'm not happy. It was all just a big misunderstanding.

1:05:46

Well, since I'm already here, I might as well hit by with the

1:05:48

relief effort to slow this down.

1:05:51

Let's speed it up. Let's go faster rabbit.

1:05:53

You'll be fine. Tiara: Next week. You'll have some crazy

1:05:56

MJ: adventure with another woman. You won't even remember this little episode.

1:05:59

I don't know. I'm not too sure. I have many episodes meth.

1:06:06

Tiara: Was another one of those kind of poignant, and little bit

1:06:09

heartbreaking scenes because it's, you are definitely finding out that

1:06:14

granddad was falling in love with her and that it could have been perfect,

1:06:19

but let's go back to that 16 hour thing.

1:06:21

That means that he took off after her, after four hours of not hearing from

1:06:25

MJ: her, I just realized that hours that you had left like 30, or you go to sleep, but you were, he was eating

1:06:35

ice cream and call it doing all kinds of calm, communication type of pager

1:06:40

and send a telegram and all this shit. And it's then you still have to buy the airplane ticket, then get to the airport.

1:06:46

So like maybe two hours that he didn't really hear from her.

1:06:52

I probably would've heard that hit like grandma

1:06:55

Lynxi: grandpas. Yeah. No Tiara: Riley knew that it had only been a few hours that I like he was there through

1:07:01

all of that giving grandad a hard time.

1:07:03

I don't, I think that it full-on was Riley going, man, I would

1:07:08

let that girl disrespect. You, you haven't heard from her in how many hours she has if somehow

1:07:13

this eight year old knows that four hours is some period of time.

1:07:17

That's important. Well MJ: with a

1:07:20

Lynxi: woman. Right? Exactly. Yeah. So that was something I meant to comment on earlier when I picked that clip,

1:07:25

when granted it's going on about, oh, she probably wants men with better

1:07:28

blood pressure and this and that. Well, this is something I tell someone extremely close to

1:07:34

me is in a new relationship. And I was like, bitch, you better not tell a single motherfucker

1:07:39

about your relationship, even me, because this is what people do.

1:07:43

It's just like the kung-fu Wolf bitch episode, where the friend is on the phone.

1:07:46

You should just kill that nigga. Stop telling people about your new relationships, because they give

1:07:51

you the dumbest fucking advice on how to engage, how to enact.

1:07:55

She probably wants someone buff. This is an eight year old, but even your weak ass friends

1:08:01

are often a bunch of haters. I'm sorry.

1:08:03

So keep that shit to yourself. One, two, when I said, shit, didn't work out with that older politician.

1:08:09

This is why this was the level of shit going on.

1:08:11

Like I've known you for a week. And I remember at one point I was babysitting my nieces and nephew and I'm

1:08:18

trying to spend time with them like them.

1:08:21

My niggas, like that was really like my love circle or whatever.

1:08:24

And I sold them, oh, I'm not going to text you back for a while.

1:08:27

I'm with my nieces and nephews child.

1:08:29

I want to say I had 50 something text messages from this man in

1:08:33

the span of a couple of hours. I was like, this is weird.

1:08:37

And then we were supposed to go to dinner. And I remember I told Danielle about that Monday at work about.

1:08:43

That had gone on. And she was, I was like, I feel really uncomfortable.

1:08:46

She was like, MJ: exactly.

1:08:54

Lynxi: I took the advice and I did not. And that was that.

1:08:57

But yeah, go ahead. I'm J I'm sorry. MJ: I don't know where I was going to say that was, that will, yeah, that,

1:09:01

that is a sign to be like, you know what?

1:09:03

Halt stop. Don't go any further. Cause that is like I told you, I will call I'll get back at you.

1:09:08

I'm with my family. Like he probably was gonna find out where you were probably driving

1:09:12

around the city, thinking you at a certain spot or something like that.

1:09:15

Yeah. That's great. And this is contradict you also their thing they grabbed and said he was, I

1:09:20

respectfully that's not what players, I might've used to build the chicken.

1:09:25

Ain't gonna respond to you in two hours. You already didn't try to help this.

1:09:28

Somebody else. You're not sitting there flying 12 hours to go

1:09:31

Lynxi: see her now. And the player type quote, unquote that I dated.

1:09:34

They'll try and not answer you for four days to punish you, right?

1:09:38

Like how Tiara: dare MJ: you. We showed up in Malaysia.

1:09:42

Well, the players are the best petty people. Probably. There are no problem.

1:09:47

Oh, Tiara: alright. So grandad said goodbye or she said goodbye to granddad and he went back.

1:09:53

Back at home, there's a knock at the door. Robert answers it defined ruckus, standing there in a tux, holding flowers.

1:10:00

MJ: Where's he at? Where's he at Ms. Brown, Ms.

1:10:02

Brown. Oh, I know she in that Robert and I can't hold my feelings inside no longer.

1:10:07

Mary May miss Ebony brown. uncle Rutgers,

1:10:13

Tiara: no relation, MJ: horrible friends.

1:10:18

You are in there for her.

1:10:22

And then what made you think that you would just that one,

1:10:25

like after you berated her and Tiara: the only black woman he's ever found attractive.

1:10:30

MJ: I guess he thought maybe that it was his time. Like he was going to get her first one.

1:10:34

It's Lynxi: upset. It's delusional obsession. Now I have been on the receiving end and witnessed the shit.

1:10:40

You guys have never seen this when you have that friend or associate let's say

1:10:44

someone just hates on Tierra all the time.

1:10:46

They're just talking shit about her, hating on her, hating on her.

1:10:49

But this nigga is always asking you like, oh, well, how's Tierra, where's

1:10:53

TIR at to show your Tiara did this. Yo dude, we all fucking see you.

1:10:58

You fucking psycho. And that's why I thought this was so funny about ruckus.

1:11:01

Like you sit around and talk about this man or woman like a

1:11:04

fucking dog, but then you're always like, oh, did you hear from them?

1:11:07

Or what are they doing? What did you hear this and that?

1:11:09

And they'll even try and rile up hate so that people just so

1:11:13

they can have an excuse to talk about you to other oh, child.

1:11:16

It is so creepy and MJ: weird. And it's just like, why are you so obsessed?

1:11:21

I don't want to sing right Kerry. But two of them are like and it's just like back in the day when I have

1:11:26

energy for it, it was like, okay, cool. But now I just, I see it for what it is.

1:11:29

And like I said earlier, use it for motivation, keep it going.

1:11:32

But I'm not gonna I don't want to feel sorry for you because that's energy.

1:11:37

You don't even need to get from me. And then, like you said, everybody, it's scary because people are

1:11:42

a little bit more they act more on their obsessions now then.

1:11:47

Previously, we, through, through our lives, we've had celebrities

1:11:50

and, people, pop culture, people that I've unfortunately been killed.

1:11:54

I have people that are, obsessed over them, but now it's even more.

1:11:56

So people feel like they have so much more of a connection to you that they,

1:12:00

they just they're even more prone to jump they're feeling froggy, they gonna jump.

1:12:05

Lynxi: I really think it's because of social media, right? So like we have no access.

1:12:09

Meanwhile, they're just watching your page all day.

1:12:12

You know what I mean? Used to be Tiara: that you would read people magazine or national Inquirer, like once a week and

1:12:18

now you're getting it every five minutes.

1:12:20

I MJ: think it started that the personalization with everybody

1:12:24

with reality TV, because then you're there, you're right there.

1:12:28

And this is them. Tiara: Tabloids were a thing long before that.

1:12:33

And people were fucking crazy long before that.

1:12:35

I think that the, the perceived access to people is from social media.

1:12:39

Absolutely MJ: look how many people have been in people's houses.

1:12:43

And these people live in Calabasas and, very high security areas.

1:12:46

And somehow they find out the way in, and they're in somebody's bed, taking

1:12:49

a shower, making the cells a sandwich like this, and because it's a vet.

1:12:53

Before you had band clubs and that fan club was just because

1:12:56

you wrote in, it was like Selena's

1:12:58

Tiara: fan club person who killed her.

1:13:02

MJ: You'll lie. Trying to remember her name.

1:13:07

Lynxi: Yes. You tuber. I love rich Lux.

1:13:09

If you guys don't watch him, he's always takes out a little, I thought about it.

1:13:12

When you said blasting flies, the haters, blessing them with saltwater guns.

1:13:16

He starts every episode out. Got to get the Yolanda's out of the comments and then blast song, laser gun.

1:13:22

Sorry. Tiara: Random. No,

1:13:24

MJ: I do love that though. Okay. Yeah.

1:13:27

That's right there as another good, excellent printer

1:13:32

Lynxi: that is going MJ: to catch on. Sure.

1:13:40

They, no, my son's creativity cause he wants to break it down and he's

1:13:42

on nobody's the fax machines anymore. I was like, it doesn't it.

1:13:45

That's not it at all. I say facts F a C T S.

1:13:48

And he's saying fax, fax, fax.

1:13:50

It's just two different things. That's all. Yup.

1:13:54

Totally British patient to where she's okay.

1:14:00

So she said. Facts facts by spelling it the right way.

1:14:04

And this still says no printer. And now I'm like, okay, well, that completely makes no sense.

1:14:10

It's catching on. As long as the Jackson Xavier don't know, nobody tried to claim it as the run.

1:14:17

Tiara: Well, after that giant show of appreciation, Robert tells ruckus

1:14:22

that she's gone ruckus asks if she's ever coming back, Robert doesn't know,

1:14:25

but that she told him he doesn't love himself enough, which of course ruckus

1:14:29

agrees with because he's a black guy. How can he love himself?

1:14:32

Yeah, I didn't say the words, but you know what I mean?

1:14:37

Yeah, true. We end with Robert in bed with his laptop starting a new Facebook account.

1:14:42

This one is a little more truthful and actually seems like Robert might be

1:14:46

talking about himself instead of someone

1:14:49

MJ: fake. Tiara: So obviously one of the main themes of this was raw was granddad realizing

1:14:56

that all of this fakeness was drawing fakeness, finally finding somebody who

1:15:00

accepted him for him and then maybe starting to accept himself for himself.

1:15:04

But I actually would like Dean, if he wants to to tell us

1:15:08

there, there a little internet. So the thing that he did that I found really interesting.

1:15:12

MJ: As we know I'm not, maybe not everybody knows about this,

1:15:14

but this was Aaron Mcgruder, his last season on the show.

1:15:18

Cause he was not, he was fired after the end of the season.

1:15:21

And. The speculation is he knew that this was coming and because of the pressure that

1:15:26

he was getting, basically he inserted himself as Ebony brown, where grandad is

1:15:33

basically the production company there. They're trying to.

1:15:37

Force him, granddad tried to speed things up.

1:15:40

They want him to get part of the re the biggest reason that he was that

1:15:42

they released that they said that he was let go was because he wasn't

1:15:46

cranking out the scripts fast enough.

1:15:49

Yeah. So as he would, as he was creating, they would, oh, we need it.

1:15:52

We need it. And he's. His time is whatever it takes, whatever it takes them.

1:15:57

So that was a, and and so like granddad at the end, no, I'm

1:16:00

gonna want to speed it up. I want to speed it up. And he's and his whole point is, he's saying, I love all these characters

1:16:06

they're flawed and they're perfectly flawed and the way that they should be.

1:16:10

And th so this it's a, it's his love story and his heartbreak about what he thinks

1:16:15

is what he knows is about to happen, cause he's, we know he, he reads the future.

1:16:19

So he said, I don't know how many episodes that have like exactly.

1:16:24

Tiara: Yeah. Then we, when I was watching, I watched the episodes like four

1:16:29

or five times in a row basically. And I think it was after the third or fourth time that Dean

1:16:33

came in and explained that to me. And I was, I watched it again and I'm like, oh, now all of this sounds, so

1:16:39

it feels so much more like I get it.

1:16:41

All of the times when Ebony is saying, I love all these things about you, even

1:16:45

though it feels like maybe I shouldn't, but I do, it sounds like Magruder

1:16:49

to saying, I love these characters and I love the show, but I can't do

1:16:53

it any faster than what I'm doing.

1:16:55

And if that's not, MJ: Even though Rutgers is a racist, he still makes me think

1:16:58

a little bit about myself. Even though I still think about myself, he want, I'm talking about all these

1:17:04

things that us black people are doing. It still makes me self.

1:17:07

Tiara: And it sounds like he's responding maybe two comments

1:17:10

that are out in the world MJ: too, out in the world.

1:17:13

Sometimes we'll say that too. Yeah. Th this season, it's basically 2010 I think is when it was done.

1:17:18

So yeah, there was, the internet was a thing for sure.

1:17:21

Facebook and all that stuff, so yeah. So at that point in time, yeah.

1:17:24

I'm sure he's getting tons of comments. Oh my gosh.

1:17:28

He just makes me love him even more. Cause that it, yeah, it's that it seems like there's, there could

1:17:32

be nothing else, but that, what the meaning of this episode is.

1:17:35

Yeah. When Tiara: you look at it with that in mind, it totally changes the whole

1:17:38

thing because it's a great watch it.

1:17:42

Right. It's one of those things where it feels like, when, if I was watching

1:17:47

this back, when it was made, I would go, oh, I wonder if this is the last

1:17:49

season this sounds like they're coming to some kind of a resolution, like I

1:17:54

feel again, looking at it again from that point of view, it's oh, I can

1:17:58

see Magruder basically saying, I know MJ: this is going to end.

1:18:01

If I look back on that time, that's really, when, Facebook was blowing up and

1:18:05

people talking about, things and, boards, just certain band boards and things

1:18:09

like that were becoming really huge.

1:18:11

So if I remember, I do remember fans really big fans of ours, friends of ours

1:18:15

that were huge fans of the show saying they felt like it was almost over and.

1:18:20

They also felt like a lot of the stories were being incomplete.

1:18:24

Like the episodes were incomplete. I do vaguely remember, especially like homies, a fraternity brother who was

1:18:29

really, really, really huge, crazy fan. remember him saying something back then, but I took a break in between

1:18:35

the second season, the third season. Yeah.

1:18:38

That was like, cause I started in 2005.

1:18:41

So the first season was 2005, 2006 season in 2006, 2007.

1:18:45

And then they jumped to Tiara: 2010 and that's probably why there was the complaint about it.

1:18:49

Not, MJ: it wasn't the same when it came back, when it came back for season

1:18:54

four, which was, I think 2014. Yeah, that definitely wasn't.

1:18:58

We tried to watch it and I was like, no, no, thank you.

1:19:00

I've never even seen any of those episodes. I think the very first episode I remember going, we can turn this off.

1:19:05

It just w like in the first episode, I, it was just all wrong.

1:19:08

I do remember that Lynxi: granddad as a TSA.

1:19:12

Tiara: Sorry. MJ: Where we're talking about.

1:19:15

Who played, Tiara: who played it? Yeah. The voice of Ebony brown was Gina Torres.

1:19:20

If you do not know who she is yes.

1:19:23

Laurence Fishburne, his ex wife. She was in Firefly, which is what I really know her from.

1:19:27

She was in suits, MJ: Have you ever been of the warrior woman

1:19:32

Tiara: she's hanging on trucks? Reloaded. I forgot that one.

1:19:34

MJ: What'd you call it was on, right? Which Meghan Markle and suits.

1:19:40

Yes. Yes. Yeah. So that's how I know who Gina Torres.

1:19:43

Okay. That's how I knew she is. Not that I watched it, but I know because when Megan Markle was becoming a big deal,

1:19:50

they, that, like that, the whole cast that some shine on them and some exposure

1:19:55

that people didn't, weren't aware of them. So that's how I know who she is.

1:19:59

And then she was with one space burn until recently, right.

1:20:01

Just a couple of years Tiara: ago. MJ: Okay. Go watch.

1:20:04

If you have a watch, watch Firefly, go watch it.

1:20:06

There's not much to watch, but she's one of the best things about it.

1:20:09

And she's in leather pants. Tiara: She's like the fighter Emma.

1:20:15

Well, she's one of the two, but she character, I love their dynamic so much.

1:20:21

It's so cute because he's just a dork and she's so serious

1:20:28

and he's just oh, I don't know. There's so many.

1:20:30

Yeah, you should watch that just so that you can understand me

1:20:32

and Dean more because seriously, yeah.

1:20:39

A season in a movie and a graphic novel series.

1:20:42

Yeah. The graphic novel MJ: series going along a lot longer.

1:20:45

Definitely. But on some real shit, y'all.

1:20:50

Lynxi: Cancel that show because he was not putting out episodes

1:20:52

fast enough, real shit. If you're a black person and you're valley very talented at what you do

1:20:58

people will find a way and I don't even want to say it's like a racial thing.

1:21:03

Only it's a racial, you will be targeted for racial reasons, but it's kind

1:21:07

of like if you won't play the drama of Hollywood and get into that cult

1:21:10

shit, like if you're going to make episodes about Tyler Perry and you're

1:21:13

going to be very outspoken and you're going to reveal truths of society and

1:21:17

be a truth teller and all that shit, they will find a way to push you out.

1:21:20

That is what it is. And that is MJ: likely what happened.

1:21:25

I've done it to every man in history, whether it's been political, whether

1:21:30

they've been musicians, whether they've been, I not everyone, but I'm sorry.

1:21:33

A lot of black men, how Lynxi: many black women?

1:21:36

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. We sit here and we talk about the genius and the foresight and the

1:21:40

creativity and the he's amazing. Oh, these people sat around saying the same shit.

1:21:45

And then someone said, MJ: get them out and put in some truth to shit too.

1:21:50

The, we've always heard about. Just say for example, the dirty shit that women have to do to be

1:21:57

able to get along in Hollywood. Yeah.

1:21:59

What if he would have started to talk about that tongue in cheek?

1:22:02

You know what I'm saying? What if you want it really, she was ready to do that.

1:22:06

He was, I think he was fearless against that. So I think that's also something that they're afraid of.

1:22:10

Like you said, tell the truth so much. Got Tiara: to think about the fact that, especially when you're thinking about

1:22:14

women in Hollywood, that just recently has become a big enough story that people are

1:22:21

actually believing, back in the day, yeah.

1:22:24

And that took the entire life of Hollywood has been nothing but casting couches.

1:22:28

So what Aaron Mcgruder was doing was basically flipping off all of these people

1:22:35

every week and they fucking hated it.

1:22:37

And it was like what you guys were saying. They knew that he was brilliant and he was innovative and that he

1:22:42

could see the future basically. But that scared them because it, yeah, because they were the bad guys.

1:22:48

MJ: It's like Ted lasso, his therapist said the truth will set you free,

1:22:52

but first it will piss you off. Yes. Yeah.

1:22:55

There you go. And and could you imagine now, especially with the platform like Netflix and

1:22:59

Hulu and other platforms where he can take his, take his show, could you

1:23:02

imagine if it was still on, but then they were starting to do with that.

1:23:05

He could have easily just been like, oh, it's cool. I'll go ahead and take it to Netflix because Netflix is bring it on over,

1:23:09

there's we don't, we don't block creativity here, yeah, it would be

1:23:13

interesting to see, if it is going to still be on the same platform, if you

1:23:16

will have an opportunity to say, I don't want to be, I don't want to be quieted.

1:23:20

I don't want to have the same, restraints that I hadn't before and go somewhere

1:23:23

where he was going to have all freedom. Yeah. It seems like HBO.

1:23:26

With the stuff that they're doing on their own now they seem

1:23:29

to be taking a lot more risks.

1:23:32

Doom patrol, which is something you wouldn't normally see, and

1:23:35

it's brilliant and it's just it's brilliant and quirky and yeah.

1:23:39

Tiara: Best the two best named actors in that.

1:23:43

And you don't see either of their faces hardly ever.

1:23:45

Nope. You've got the one who's covered in burns and rats.

1:23:50

He looks like the invisible man traditionally.

1:23:53

And then you've got the one in a robot costume who you only see in flashbacks.

1:23:58

And those are the only two names that are recognizable before the show starts.

1:24:01

Like that's fucking beautiful. Was Lovecraft country on HBO?

1:24:05

Yes. Yeah. So I loved what they did with LA with Lovecraft country.

1:24:08

They did that same thing. They had some big names, but they weren't in roles that you would

1:24:12

expect, they had they had Michael one with the scar, from the wire.

1:24:16

Yeah. The one that he just died. MJ: Jesus, Tiara: I can't remember.

1:24:19

He plays the uncle. He's not even in like a starring role.

1:24:22

And he was probably one of the biggest names. On that marquee when that show came out.

1:24:28

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1:24:31

I love that. And I think MJ: they're taking, so we look and we go, certain shows could not be on right now.

1:24:36

Like they were before. And couldn't even, I think have the same topics.

1:24:40

Like for example, one of the content creators we watched today showed an

1:24:43

episode of we are one or whatever it was like, it was based off of will

1:24:48

Smith's will Smith and Jada Pinkett life back in the day, it was on UPN

1:24:52

or CW or whatever, back in the day.

1:24:55

But there was an episode where the son was playing all from one.

1:24:58

Yeah. Yeah.

1:25:02

I just remember that Lisa Ray was in it and she can't act elect.

1:25:04

The son was playing goldfish with his white friend and it was

1:25:08

a Christmas party or something. And it was a lot of people there and he ends up saying goldfish

1:25:12

nigga and then doing a dance. And it, first of all, it's funny because of the way they all like Cal succinct.

1:25:17

He is when he says it. But I was like, that would not be an episode on any major

1:25:23

television channel right now. I'm married with children.

1:25:25

That's also something that would not be able to be out right now.

1:25:28

So it's funny that HBO was actually going, you know what, we're going to try it.

1:25:32

So shows like curb, your enthusiasm and other shows that they're

1:25:35

rebooting that you would think things couldn't be said, in, in current

1:25:40

times, but they're taking that. And I think, they're trying to compete with Netflix, but they're

1:25:44

also saying let's allow people to have more control over their content.

1:25:47

Yeah. I think that HBO right now, I like you feel like even at John Oliver, who's

1:25:51

the biggest social commentary on there even makes fun of HBO and what they

1:25:56

call business daddy at T and T and

1:26:00

Tiara: always, MJ: Always just fucking with them hardcore.

1:26:03

So yeah, Tiara: He'll start fake wars with places like a the cheesecake factory

1:26:08

and just for fun, but also to skewer them for some bullshit thing that

1:26:12

they might have done somewhere. MJ: Yeah.

1:26:15

It's a way of holding him accountable, calling him to the carpet, and for me,

1:26:19

what is amazing about that is the money that they bring in and the success that

1:26:24

it is for the company, does it end up, it makes all that other shit moot to them.

1:26:28

Like they don't care, say what you say, make fun of us, talk about

1:26:31

some of our practices because you're still making them successful.

1:26:35

So it's funny how, that, that plays into everything that we do.

1:26:41

Yeah. Tiara: All right. Anything else from this episode that you guys wanted to talk about

1:26:47

before we move on to our next part?

1:26:50

MJ: I want to say it's probably one of my favorites and especially

1:26:53

knowing the backstory behind it. I think, yeah, one of my favorite, but

1:26:56

Tiara: I agree. I think this is probably one of my favorites too.

1:26:59

I liked the relationship between the two of them.

1:27:01

I hated that it was only 16 hours. If that had been like a real kind of thing, I could absolutely see, I don't

1:27:07

know if it was, it made me sad that granddad couldn't quite make it work

1:27:11

with the one that was perfect for him. MJ: Yeah.

1:27:14

It reminded me of all my crushes and high school, like crying and listening

1:27:18

to slow music, eating ice cream, and then it was like, okay, then you're all right.

1:27:22

The next day. Tiara: Alright.

1:27:25

Alright. We ready for the yeah. Yep.

1:27:28

Yeah, let's do it. MJ: Hey kids, how's everybody doing?

1:27:47

So for Halloween, the weekend dressed as Don Corleone, I

1:27:56

don't know if anybody saw it. So it was that out on the social, out on the social medias, he

1:28:00

looked amazing spotless, flawless job, and saw the picture.

1:28:07

He had done a number of pictures of that. And I, through this, I had also seen some prior ones that he'd

1:28:12

done, which were also amazing. There was a , comment or something very similar to this comment that went along

1:28:19

with it saying, isn't this kind of white face and cultural appropriation.

1:28:27

So now I know Lindsay saw the thread that

1:28:32

Tiara: went on. Yeah. So I just, I, before we really get into it, I just want to point out that this

1:28:40

man obviously paid a lot of money to get a really sophisticated mask created.

1:28:46

Looks like one of those, like mission impossible type things.

1:28:48

Like you, you think that is what it is not makeup.

1:28:52

It is some kind of like silicone prosthetic thing.

1:28:56

That's not in his MJ: face. And Mrs.

1:28:59

Doubtfire, like that was a piece like you're saying, and

1:29:02

like you said, lots of money. Tiara: So like my point with that is maybe on his hands, they

1:29:09

lightened the skin color with makeup.

1:29:11

But the reason, first of all, the reason why is because white faces in a thing.

1:29:18

But also the weekend, wasn't doing that to pretend to be that character.

1:29:22

Like he, he had a mask on, if he had taken white face paint and painted

1:29:28

his face and said, oh, I'm Italian.

1:29:31

That would be one thing. It's not any different than say Ving Ryan's character on mission, impossible

1:29:38

being the one wearing the mask and the mask happens to be a white guy.

1:29:42

So MJ: I don't know.

1:29:44

Usually when people are doing on black basis to laughter make fun of

1:29:49

somebody and him doing the godfather.

1:29:52

I don't think that was more a homage to a good movie.

1:29:54

That art culture and community likes not him trying to make fun of Italians or the,

1:30:00

Tiara: he was trying to honor that character. And it was a character.

1:30:04

He wasn't being, he wasn't being a human being.

1:30:06

He was being a character from a movie, wearing the clothes and wearing a mask.

1:30:12

Like the hands are the only thing that I think that could be maybe

1:30:14

like CRA like pushing the line. And even that, it's only for the fact that when people are doing blackface,

1:30:22

we basically tell them, don't change your skin color for the character.

1:30:26

If you can't make the character work without changing your skin

1:30:28

color, you're doing something wrong. But MJ: this one, it sounds always close or other characteristics.

1:30:35

I just, as Sandy and Danny Zuko and the

1:30:42

Tiara: that's even better. My sister used to joke that she grew up wanting to be a Sandy

1:30:47

and turned into a reserve. MJ: Oh, it was definitely like, I want it to be Sandy.

1:30:52

And then the one time that I got to play, somebody was Rizzo and I was like,

1:30:55

okay, this is actually who I should. I have my hair dyed, blonde,

1:31:05

love it. Our boys love it. Like they know it

1:31:11

wore t-shirt that said, tee birds. I wore black leather pants, a black bodysuit, I've wore red lipstick.

1:31:18

It was so I didn't feel like we have to go through the whole process, putting

1:31:21

on weight makeup or to change our faces for that to come, come across.

1:31:24

Yeah, we've done sands. Oh, sons of anarchy. People were taking pictures with us.

1:31:27

I was like, you guys know, we weren't really in the show real yeah.

1:31:31

We took pictures. Like we literally were on the cast and crew it was crazy, but we didn't

1:31:36

do anything other than where the identifying, clothes like that was it.

1:31:40

And it came across. So I don't understand why that's such a hard task.

1:31:44

And concept. Yeah. That was one of the things that popped up was about like

1:31:48

do it, the black face thing. And a guy honestly said what if I, what if I just really liked Michael

1:31:54

Jordan that I want to honor him? You put on the fucking Jersey.

1:31:57

It says, Jordan right there. And a horrible place hearing.

1:32:01

That's what all you have to do. Tiara: Honestly, because like we were joking about it basically saying if you

1:32:06

really want to go the whole mile, put on a bald cap, but you don't change the color,

1:32:12

MJ: maybe get the lengthening surgery and make if I was going to do, I don't

1:32:16

know which one it is on kid and play the one that has a straight up hair, I'd

1:32:20

be, I would not change my hair color. No, no.

1:32:23

Yeah. Or if I had that long and it would mimic

1:32:27

Tiara: a thing that is well-known about that character.

1:32:31

Somebody who doesn't have the money of the weekend wanting to do

1:32:34

Don Corleone would wear a suit.

1:32:39

And then, the way he talks and the way he moves there, they're not going

1:32:42

to change their face to look like

1:32:44

MJ: good luck. Right. If you worked at any spirit, Halloween store this past few

1:32:48

months, or fast past weeks, you saw the gangster costume 9,000 times.

1:32:53

And none of it included makeup, but someone doing blackface, they don't

1:32:59

look like the person that imitate. And they just look like someone with black face on, he acts like you guys said he

1:33:04

has a mask on, so it can't be white faced.

1:33:07

Cause he literally looks like don't call y'all.

1:33:10

You know what I'm saying? So it's a little different than them. Yeah, we can space that we're looking at when he walked into the party, nobody

1:33:16

would have been like, that's the weekend. Right. Nobody knows that, you know what I'm saying?

1:33:19

That'll be like, oh, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

1:33:22

And by the way, I do re I do highly recommend going look at

1:33:25

his prior Halloween costumes.

1:33:28

Cause they were fucking awesome. Heidi Klum, Heidi.

1:33:33

If Tiara: I had the money, that would be me a hundred percent.

1:33:36

I find it all up MJ: every yes.

1:33:39

Aha. She does great. Tiara: I haven't seen what she's done in the last few years.

1:33:45

Like back when she was with seal and they had the kids.

1:33:47

Oh I, every year I would be like, oh, what did they do?

1:33:50

MJ: Yeah. I don't think I have to think.

1:33:53

Oh good. Maybe COVID they didn't know that I'm looking at.

1:33:59

What about and Tiara: Doogie Howser, Neil, Patrick Harris.

1:34:03

Yeah. Him and his husband and his kids the last few years have been

1:34:06

doing really good with that too. To look for that.

1:34:09

See exclusive photos of Heidi claims 20, 21 Halloween.

1:34:13

Okay. Oh, MJ: oh wow.

1:34:17

Wait. Nope. I got an ad. Hold on. We were at a party and this one lady did Ursula.

1:34:22

One was, she did Fiona one day and looked so good.

1:34:26

And the next day she was Ursula and she killed it, killed it

1:34:28

and I wasn't going anywhere. She should have won all kinds of awards.

1:34:33

Tiara: Heidi claims kids are 17, 16, 14, and 12.

1:34:36

MJ: Wow. When did that happen?

1:34:41

That's Tiara: holy shit. So yeah, you should look up Heidi claim's makeup for this year.

1:34:45

Cause she did some really fuck.

1:34:48

I can't even it's MJ: yeah, I'm going to look it up.

1:34:51

Cause I thought she didn't. I one, we were camping all weekend we're camping.

1:34:54

We're like just, I think she's a Tiara: zombie.

1:34:57

I think it's a zombie, but there's so much makeup and prosthetics like

1:35:02

MJ: yeah. Yeah. They just be invited.

1:35:05

Just be invited. She doesn't have to talk to me. I just want to be invited and to be able to have one yup.

1:35:10

This to be really good. Lynxi: I've said this before, but this is the thing with us and blackface.

1:35:15

Like we get the pageantry of wanting to get the perfect costume and get it right.

1:35:20

And go viral and all this kind of bullshit.

1:35:22

Right? There are, are we know there are amazing things about being black, everyone on

1:35:28

this podcast, I'm sorry, Dean, is proud.

1:35:31

Black go listen to the pre-show and the story that was told there

1:35:35

about what it is to be black. And then I want you to take a minute and kind of think about it.

1:35:40

Like walking around black can get you murdered.

1:35:43

You can get shot for nothing more than walking down the street as a black person,

1:35:47

driving down the street and you end up strung up in a jail cell, sleeping in

1:35:52

your fucking bed in your own apartment. And the police come in and murder you.

1:35:57

Right? And no justice is served. Yeah. That is what it is to also be black.

1:36:01

There are also a lot of dark things that occur when you are black.

1:36:06

And a lot of people don't like that I say it, but I consider us to be

1:36:09

treated as second, if not third, class citizens in this country.

1:36:14

For example, please see January six versus the black lives

1:36:19

matter protests that popped off. All right.

1:36:22

So let's go there. So when you say for one night, I'm going to dress up and I'm going to be

1:36:29

Michael Jordan and put my black makeup on and you have the time of your life,

1:36:34

partying it up, doing the get down challenge and whatever else you're doing.

1:36:38

Oh great for you. I'm glad you have fun, but then you hop in the shower and

1:36:41

you go to work the next day. Yep. And you wave to Bob, your friendly neighborhood police officer, and you

1:36:47

have a great day in your white skin and you don't deal with worrying

1:36:52

about getting shot down the street. So it's like to us, it's a slap in the face because you are enjoying all of the

1:36:58

fun, not all, but some of the fun aspects of being a black person, Hey guys, look,

1:37:04

I'm black, I'm black, Michael Jordan. See how I dance?

1:37:06

All this kind of bullshit, which is still a mockery, but then too, you Halloween

1:37:11

ends and you're back to living in a world of privilege, your best friend Deshawn.

1:37:17

Okay. He's walking down the street and trying to, not to get shot while breathing.

1:37:21

So that's what it is. That's why it's offensive.

1:37:25

We've asked you not to do it. Don't do it. MJ: Don't do it right.

1:37:28

My job on that point. There you go.

1:37:32

Tiara: It's a perfect mic drop. MJ: He always has them.

1:37:36

Dean: Don't drop the mic. Those are expensive.

1:37:39

Lynxi: That's cause I'm listening to y'all and taking note. Tiara: Alright.

1:37:46

Alright. You guys have anything you want to promote on this?

1:37:49

Let's see. This will be next week. So the second week of November, when this episode comes out,

1:37:55

Lynxi: I don't, but there's a YouTube channel. I really love called belief in fatherhood.

1:37:59

You all should watch it. That's all. Tiara: MJ, you got anything up to him?

1:38:04

MJ: More podcast episodes. I announced a couple of things that I have coming up.

1:38:08

If you guys have a chance to vote, please vote. Yes.

1:38:10

I think the voting is going on until the second I want to say of December.

1:38:14

Oh oh yes. Mr. Groups, which is a huge, very talented reggae band that

1:38:20

is out of Chico, California. Very good friends of mine as well.

1:38:25

Fell in love with the band 20 years ago, and now I can

1:38:28

really consider them friends. They are playing in Sacramento on the 20th, but they're also going to do a

1:38:34

live guest hosting spot on the podcast.

1:38:37

So November 20th is when that will take place.

1:38:39

So if you guys like some good reggae music, or if you're your fan, make

1:38:43

sure that you check on into Manasseh with Mary Jane maiden podcast.

1:38:49

Tiara: I think with us what's the, do you have the next disputed setup?

1:38:51

MJ: Not yet. I w I think we're probably heading down the path of black

1:39:00

dynamite versus Brock Sampson. Nice.

1:39:03

All right. Tiara: Yeah.

1:39:06

Yeah. Look, you look those characters up and think about who a, you would back in that

1:39:11

fight, because that would be a fun one. MJ: All right.

1:39:14

Tiara: I hope everybody. Surviving as we get into what is for a lot of us, the hardest time of the

1:39:23

year holidays are coming up and just everybody out there, remember that,

1:39:27

whatever you're feeling, whatever you're going through, you're not alone.

1:39:29

Reach out, talk to a friends, don't let the world get to you right now.

1:39:35

Cause we're almost through this shit. And when we get to the other side, we want to see there.

1:39:41

MJ: So I agree. Okay.

1:39:44

All right, Tiara: everybody, we'll see you later.

1:39:46

I MJ: don't take this the wrong way, but I need you to get the hell about a year.

1:40:03

Lynxi: Okay, thanks for joining us again, as we make our way through the

1:40:06

trials and tribulations of the Freeman family, we hope to see you back again.

1:40:10

Next time for Mr. Medicinal.

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