Having a day job doesn’t make you less legitimate, but it can feel that way can’t it? If your small business or creative endeavors don’t fully support you, it’s easy to feel like you’re not a real entrepreneur. But the fact is, most full-time entrepreneurs started their businesses while still working their 9-5, and some are perfectly content keeping their day jobs as it allows them to have more financial security, even extra cash to market their side gig.

Elena Ciccotelli is one of those entrepreneurs. Elena is a writer, podcaster, vlogger, pizza connoisseur and productivity enthusiast. She works for the ride-sharing company Lyft in corporate sales, while also hosting the popular podcast, Side Gig Central. She joins me today to share how she went  scaled her business up to a full-time brick and mortar before scaling back to a side gig, her insight into balancing a side gig with a 9-5, and not letting your ego get in the way of what’s right for you.

So whether you’re already doing something on the side, thinking about getting started, or are curious about scaling your full-time business back down, this episode is for you.