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Welcome everyone. Thank
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you for joining us for this very exciting
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evening for the very special film
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Just Mercy. We're going to start things
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off by spending time with a simply put
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one of the most inspiring people you will ever
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meet, a hero of our generation, Brian
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Stevenson. We're
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honored to have three people here who need
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no introduction, Ladies and gentlemen.
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Here's the star and producer of Just Mercy,
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Michael B. Jordan, joined by
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two more of the film stars, Oscar winning
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actors Jamie Fox and Brie
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Larson. They can't wait for
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you to meet the extraordinary person at the center
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of Just Mercy, Brian Stevenson,
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a hero of our generation who has been a
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bold voice for the voiceless and has
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fearlessly stood up for justice when told
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to sit down in the crowd.
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We have some special guests, three members
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of the film's remarkable cast who all
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give out standing performances, Rob
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Morgan, Tim Blake Nelson and
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Kiron Kendrick. They
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are joined by our hosts, who needs no
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introduction. Please welcome to
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the stage, the popular and always outspoken
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hosts of the Breakfast Club and my
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friend Charlemagne. Y'all
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feeling this evening. What's happening? We're
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here to talk a little just mercy, Michael
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B. Jordan, what's happened to my brother? Doing good? How you doing? Man?
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I wasn't important to tell Brian's story.
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I mean for a number of reasons. I think once I
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discovered who Brian Stevenson was, and I'm very
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embarrassed that, you know, four or five years ago, I wasn't
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that familiar with him or his work. You
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know, I felt like it's
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something that's timely. You know, this case,
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the story took place, you know, over thirty years ago,
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but it's still relevant to today. You know, it's
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still going on obviously, And if
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I could take this story and
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get it out to the masses and keep that conversation
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going, if I could do my part and use my platform
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to make this a global thing, to make this a human
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thing, I was going to do everything I could
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to kind of get that done. And after meeting Brian
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and uh, really realizing the impact
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of the work that he's doing year, it's
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uh it's hard to not feel
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moved and not feel like you want to be a part of the solution
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and be a part of a change. How did you how
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did this story come across your radar? Um through through
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my agency? It was something that um, you know, as
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an opportunity for me to uh to want
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to tell the story. When I first met Brian, I
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had a feeling that he was, you know, he was auditioning
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me, like if I was worthy enough to kind
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of to tell his story, because um,
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you know, he's a very humble person.
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He's not you know, a guy who likes a lot of attention.
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He does his work behind closed doors, and
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and it really makes impact and
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um and and and I
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felt honored to be able to tell
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this story. You know, he's nobody's perfect,
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but he's damned he's damned close. And
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that pressure to to do him
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justice and not to let him down is something that really
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stayed up my mind as that we developed and worked
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on and on the movie. Briand
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did he do a good job? Brian, Oh, he does an
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amazing job. I think one of the things
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that I most excited about is the
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extraordinary performances
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that all of these amazing actors do. I
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mean, for me, I've always believed that if I could
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get people to see what I see on a
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regular basis, if I could get them to understand
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the humanity and the dignity of the people that I
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represent, and what's lost when we
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treat people unfairly and unjustly, when
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we crush hopes and we traumatize
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and abuse people, that people would want
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the same things that I want. And
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I wasn't sure that was achievable until
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I met Michael. And I
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was very apprehensive about having the book turned
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into a movie, because a lot of times Hollywood
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doesn't actually get the story right. They compromise.
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But Michael was aligned and
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he wanted to do it in the right way. And Deston
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had that same vision. And not only is
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Michael an amazingly talented
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actor, he's somebody who cares deeply about
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these issues. And his commitment
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to the issues and getting it right is what gave me
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hope. And then when Jamie came, and Breed came,
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and the other members of the cast came, I began
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to get excited about what might
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happen we lifted the veil,
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and what's happening in this country. I mean, our country
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has the highest rate of incarceration in the
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world. We have put millions of people in jails
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and prisons. We're putting children in adult
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prisons. We're executing people who are innocent.
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We have condemned people unfairly, and
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we haven't responded the way a just nation
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should respond. So we have to wake people up.
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And I'm hoping that the storytelling in this film
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will get people engaged in a way where they
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leave the theaters prepared to do something
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that it doesn't end when the film is over. And that's
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what really motivates me when
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I see the film, and what excites me about the performances.
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Gree Larthen, how
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are you hello?
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Are we on the radio?
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Yeah? No? Oh it just said, oh
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no, I heart radio. Is that's
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why it says that okay, got it? Yeah?
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But you play Eva and who
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was then allied to the community. Um, what
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was it like for you to portray her? Oh?
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It was incredible. I
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got to be with Michael B. Jordan like all
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the time. It
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was just wonderful. You know. Destin, who directed
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the film, is like my family is my
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brother and and um,
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when I heard that he was telling the story, I
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had read Brian's book a couple of years prior.
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I was just so moved by him and by his
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story, and uh, and
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Michael wanted me to be there. So for
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me, it was about doing the
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work that I needed to do to show up, to
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dissolve myself, to just
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be there, to listen and to hold space
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and to explore what that
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felt like and it felt so good?
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Or what did the story of Bryan
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Stevenson taught you? To
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get very very close to everything.
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Even just today doing press all day, I
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have a new person sitting in front of me every
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three minutes, and it's amazing to watch your mind
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run with how your brain wants
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to quant to fight any person that's in
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front of you and to really work to kind
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of push that away and to go who
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are you? Because I most definitely
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don't know, but I know we have a lot in common. And
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that's what Brian taught me. Dope,
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Jamie Fox, what's happening to
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my brother? What's up? I wasn't for you to
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portray? Portray your character? And how
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to Brian help you with the role. Well, first
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of all, just I mean meeting Brian
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is just incredible
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and effect that Michael playing
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and then they both look they you know, both
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be in the gym, so you know, like
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it all worked out because
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I thought, when you're saying you were auditioned for him, but I
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know he was telling people, Yeah, you know, it might be Jordan's
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playing a minute, Come
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on, man, but
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what what what Brian Stevens have done is
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so important because he doesn't fatigue
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when we have black issues, It'll
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be a black issue for thirty minutes on ourselves own
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or whatever we have our revolution
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about for forty five minutes
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behind our gates, and
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then we fatigue. Brian
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Stevenson works tiresly to
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change the perception of us. That's
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why I'm happy to Michael B. Jordan called me.
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I was humble to get that call to
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find out that he was doing his story.
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And it's important because we
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have to get into these narratives and really do something
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about him. Because we were dealing
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with this in Texas, people
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being wrongly accused and placed
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in prison to die,
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and the fact that the perception of a black
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man is so it's
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so a matter of fact that we're
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able to allow it to happen and
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we sit either not mute or just don't
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know about it. So and I think
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when it comes to Michael B. Jordan you have to commend
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him for what he did behind
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the camera and in front of the camera.
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It's his first movie. He produced city.
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He has the inclusion Act where he has
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you know, everybody who's represented behind
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closed doors, and you think about this. He could do anything
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wanted. He's a big star. Yeah,
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but I know you like me, Like when
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he laid that railroad, that groundwork
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in Fruitville Station, and
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he laid that narrative where he spoke
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for us, And I told you, I went with some I
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went with some homies. I went with the thugs to
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go see that movie, and there was sniffles because
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because of how you you touch us. And then
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to go from there to Kill Monger,
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biggest movie on the planet and
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Black Panther. But he took the same narrative
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with him at the biggest
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level of his career. And
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so now just mercy is
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the artistic sentence that's being
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finished, but not that's not the only sentence. And
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I think that's what's great about the
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film. This is the most important film I've been
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a part of, and I
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think that that we should make sure we get
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it is it's the most important.
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I'm gonna tell you why it's the most important
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because of perception, Like I
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don't like to visit people in jail because
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I don't want to see that. I don't want to get used to seeing
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family members or anything like. I don't want to see
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that. My father went to jail for twenty
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five dollars worth of illegal substance. They
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put him in jail for seven years. This
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man educated black
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studies in South Dallas for twenty
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five years. The very students
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that he used to have the judge
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come and preside and come talk
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to the kids. That judge presided
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over his case put him in
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jail. Next two kids that he taught.
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But they don't understand that that that black man
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taught me how to swim, that
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black man taught me how to throw a football, told me how to play
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tennis. And so I'm not learning to play tennis because I want you
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to know all of it, so you
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know, you know it's a it's
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a thing that I'm familiar with, and that The good part about
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that is is that when he got out,
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I the one letter I say, you come stay with me.
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I got on. Now you can come stay with me and
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you and I want to change your life.
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Now. This man taught me
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how to play tennis. The good part about their stories that I
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got a chance to take him to the US open
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and let him watch Venus and Serena
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play. So
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so when that man watched this movie about
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what was going on, I watched him, you
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know, I
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watched him get you know weak, you
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know, right, because because these stories
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almost every single day. So that's why
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I say it's the most important film I've ever
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been. Wow, Michael
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is it is it hard to get white
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Hollywood executives to make these kind of stories.
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I feel like this movie for me. First of all,
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getting any movie is really hard to get done, especially
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one with a message like this. I feel
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like for me in this project,
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I can't say that it was hard to get done. You
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know from from you know, Warner Brothers
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ran towards this movie. Uh, they knew
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it wasn't a cash cat, it wasn't one of their
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huge blockbuster movies, but they felt like it was very
11:08
important. UM parlay
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my relationship with them at my overall
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deal there. Um, they
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ran towards the inclusion writer that I that
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I implemented with my production company.
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They collaborated with my team for
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all of Warner Media. So now Warner Media
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has the Inclusion Act in there, and that's how
11:28
they hire through all of Warner Media, which
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is a huge first step. It's a huge precedents
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that set with that company, which
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is so a
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person of a minority,
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somebody from the LBGTQ community, some
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of an unrepresented group has to be heavily
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considered for a department head in front
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of the camera and a major role within the movie. And
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that's something it's it's it's something that on
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paper, a mandate that you know, can
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hold people somewhat accountable. It's not
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full bulletproof, it's not full full
11:57
force, but it's something that they buy.
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It's a mandated the company works under. So
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that was a huge first step. We have a lot more steps
12:04
to go, but it was it was a nice first move. I
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feel like the timing of this movie
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was very important. I feel like Brian's
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work had a lot to do
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with that. Brian Stevenson, who he was, I think the heads
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of the our studio was very progressive
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and wanted to get behind this message. So
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it was a lot of factors that kind of fell into place
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for this movie to get made with as much
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ease as it has. It wasn't completely
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easy, but it wasn't as hard as it has been in
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the past. Well, why why is
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Brian Stevenson a hero? I
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think he's a hero because he's selfless. I
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feel like he sacrificed his life and dedicated
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it to a cause. And he doesn't fatigue. Like Jamie
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said, he doesn't tire. I think he is
12:47
almost He's so optimistic
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and so hopeful in the most dismal situations.
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I don't I can't even fathom, you know. I
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think one of the most challenging things about playing
12:56
him in this movie was the situations
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that he was in. And he kept his calm
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and he kept his cool. Why because it wasn't
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beneficial for his clients
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something you know, being you
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know, strip search being treated, uh, you
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know, mis mistreated, and and and and
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and obviously you know, seeing laws being
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broken left and right, but being antagonized,
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being racially profiled, being harassed, and
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he still kept his his his
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calm nature when emotionally,
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even in the scene, I wanted to react differently,
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differently, so my artistic acting choices.
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I wanted to be you know, raged, while I wanted to
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lash out. But that's not what Brian
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Stevenson you know, did, That's not who he was.
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So that reserved nature that
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that methodical, that that you know,
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he's a strategist. He you know, he's five steps
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ahead. He's all about changing the perception.
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He has layers. He created this legacy museum,
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he has this memorial situation set
13:47
up and down in Alabama. He's attacking this thing
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at so many different levels. I was so impressed
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by by how much
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strategy goes into it. Um,
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and he does all of us work pro bono. You
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know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, and
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and and it's and it's uh, the man
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is so humble, it's it's uh, it's
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incredible. Man. So it's like, you know, he is
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our is our he is our hero. Man. It's
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like I've been in marble films, you know, I've
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done all that, But this is this is the one that I'm
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most proud of. Man. He's he's the guy look up to. Bryan
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got some fire quotes too, I'll put some in my phone.
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I want to ask you why it ran.
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You said you don't change the world with the ideas
14:28
in your mind, but with the conviction in your
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heart. Sure.
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I mean I just think that, Um,
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we have to recognize our
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power to make a difference. And we use
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some of these lines in the movie,
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but for me, they're not just lines. It's the way we
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do justice. You know, the question is how do we do
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justice. You do justice by being
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willing to get close to people who are poor and excluded
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and neglected. You know, in this country, we have a tendency
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to kind of let the lights always go to the rich
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and the powerful and the privilege. We tend to
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care more about what's happening in places
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where people have and lifted up and gotten
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a lot of attention. And I don't believe
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that our country will be judged by
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how well we treat the powerful and the privileged
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and the celebrated. We're going to be judged by how we treat
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the poor and the incarcerated and the excluded.
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And for me, that
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means understanding that we have an obligation
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to do these things. You know, my great grandfather
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was enslaved in Virginia, and he
15:23
had the belief he believed things he couldn't
15:25
see, and so he learned to read as a twelve year old,
15:28
even though everybody was telling him he would never
15:30
be free, and he learned to read. And when emancipation
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came all of the informally enslaved
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people would come to his house and he'd read the newspaper
15:37
every night, and the house would get quiet.
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My grandmother would sit next to him. She said it would made
15:41
her so proud that he had that kind of power.
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And he gave that desire to read to my grandmother,
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And even though they didn't have school, she was very
15:48
literate, and she gave that to my mother,
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and my mother gave that to me. And we were poor,
15:53
but my mom went into debt to buy the World
15:56
Book Encyclopedia so we could see this other place.
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And I was raised is been natured by people
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who had the strength to keep fighting, and so for
16:03
me, it's a choice. Hopefulness
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is what we have to have. And we say in the film, and
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I say it all the time, that hopelessness is
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the enemy of justice. Injustice
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prevails where hopelessness persists, our hope
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is our superpower. And I live in Montgomery,
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Alabama. It's a challenging place, but it's also
16:19
an incredibly inspiring place because in Montgomery,
16:21
you never forget that you're standing
16:23
on the shoulders of people who did so much more with
16:26
so much less. The people trying to do what I'm trying
16:28
to do. Sixty years ago they
16:30
had to frequently say my
16:32
head is bloody, but not bad. I've never had to
16:34
say that. And I feel the power of
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the enslaved who found a way to stay hopeful
16:39
despite bondage. I feel the power of
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people who were terrorized and lynch and found a
16:43
way to get to security. My parents were humiliated
16:45
every day by Jim Crow's segregation, and
16:48
yet they had enough hope to love
16:50
one another, to create a generation. It gives me the
16:52
opportunities that I have now, So I feel
16:54
an obligation to fight for our
16:56
future, to fight for our children. There's
16:58
a presumption of dangerousness and guilt that
17:01
gets assigned to black and brown people, and it's
17:03
not right, and we've got to end it. We
17:05
have a criminal justice system,
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you know, the system that we have
17:11
that treats you better if you're rich and guilty,
17:13
then if you're poor and innocent. It's not right,
17:15
and we've got to do something about it. And I think we
17:18
can when we get amazing talented
17:20
people like the people on this stage, and people
17:22
like Rob Morgan and Karen Kendrick and Tim
17:24
Blake Nelson, when they come together and
17:27
use their creative power to
17:29
tell these stories. I don't think
17:32
there are any limits to what we can
17:34
unravel. We can unearth that
17:36
can actually move us toward justice. And that's what
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excites me about the film. I think it's going to become
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something that I hope people are organized
17:43
around, that people get inspired by that
17:45
push us us towards something that feels more like
17:47
justice. And that's the vision, that's the hope behind
17:49
all of this. Affected.
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I would affected you think this movie will be
17:57
in changing anything in
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our climate in America right now. I
18:03
feel like the
18:06
takeaway that I want at the end of this movie, I
18:08
want people to feel I want people to start having
18:11
conversations. That's where it starts. I want people
18:13
to go home and think, you know, um.
18:18
I want people to feel like what they what can
18:20
they do? I think one of the major
18:22
issues with
18:24
with with criminal justice is people feel
18:27
like the issue is so big that what could little load
18:29
me do to affect this big thing? And it's
18:31
paralyzing so they do nothing. And
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and I feel like, if
18:36
you can identify with the thing that
18:38
that makes you tick, that that bothers you, that
18:40
that that that you want to go out and be a part
18:43
of the solution. Go to eji
18:45
dot org. There's a list of actionable things that you could
18:47
actually do to start being a part of the actual change.
18:50
Vote you feel me, I write
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that, you know our ancestors, you know died and went
18:55
through all the ship forward is to vote, you know, find
18:57
out what judges are where, what
18:59
what policies being put in place? What? How
19:01
can you vote on things that's going to directly
19:03
affect your situation, in your
19:05
in your circumstances. You know, those are
19:07
those are the basic things that we just
19:09
tend to ignore. So I want
19:12
people to feel like they're not too
19:14
small, that that they could
19:16
be a part of the solution, that they could stand on the
19:18
right side of history. After leaving and watching
19:20
this movie, Bree, when you see stories like this,
19:22
how does it make you personally feel as a as
19:24
a yeah, as the white
19:26
person in America? When you see stories like this, how
19:29
does it make you feel? Thank
19:31
you for the question? What
19:35
is that funny? I
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really
19:41
everybody
19:44
white, no, no, no, no no, about
19:47
that they just don't know breathe. They don't know breathe
19:49
that well, they just don't breath.
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I mean, I mean everybody else building I think I just
19:56
let the air of the room for it.
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I think a we can talk
20:01
about that whiteness. You did went over there, I
20:03
appear to be white. Um,
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I wait, I
20:09
got time to speak on that whiteness. Oh
20:11
man, white man speak
20:14
on the white mansk. Thank
20:19
you. I know what you meant, though I don't know I
20:21
know what you mean. I'm just I'm just letting them. I'm
20:24
letting them go because they held her breath, the whiteness
20:31
all trying to catch a moment right, Charlotte
20:34
Mane talks about whiteness.
20:39
What you know what I mean? I know exactly. You
20:41
don't have to end the Boys in the Hood with the boys that either
20:43
they don't know exactly don't
20:46
show. I don't care about what's going on. I
20:48
wonder how much did they exactly. I'm
20:52
just didn't happen. Um.
20:57
Well, I mean the truth is, I'm
20:59
so open, you know, and I'm
21:01
I'm so open to learning about to
21:04
learning more and to listening. And
21:07
I learned so much on this movie and
21:09
I will keep learning and so
21:13
to hear these stories. It's hard.
21:15
It's very hard. And
21:17
I feel helpless too at times. And
21:20
I know that I'm not doing enough too,
21:22
and I also try really hard. So
21:26
for me, it's about keeping my eyes open
21:28
and keeping softness in myself
21:31
because getting hard doesn't
21:33
really help anybody, I don't think, and
21:35
being available every step of the way. So
21:38
it's doing things like this, making myself
21:40
available to films like this, and it's
21:42
activism outside of it that you may hear about you
21:44
may not, but yeah, that's
21:46
just me. And I did appreciate the question,
21:49
by the way, Yeah, that was
21:51
a great affort. Your publicis somewhere like. But
21:58
I'll tell you what one does go a long
22:00
way. The fact that she's a part of the filming, the
22:02
fact that people can see it and feel included,
22:05
and the fact that all the people
22:07
on the stage were conscious about
22:10
making sure that this movie was open
22:12
to everybody. Michael B. Brian,
22:16
We constantly destined, our director
22:19
constantly made sure that there were things that
22:21
we did so we can open it up. This
22:23
movie tested a ninety seven
22:26
in front of an all black audience,
22:29
but then it tested in front of a all white audience, and
22:32
I was like, man, what did they say? It tested
22:34
in ninety eight. So it lets
22:36
you know that your your
22:38
question is absolutely pointed. It absolutely
22:42
needs to be said, because I
22:44
think in the movie what was brilliant is
22:47
that when you did see the white characters, like
22:49
the correctional officer, he had contrition.
22:51
He knew that this was wrong. So you can see
22:53
it on his face. That moment gives the
22:56
people that are white in the audience who feel the way
22:58
he feels, a chance to get into it.
23:00
Also with the prosecuting attorney,
23:03
you can see him stewing and
23:05
toiling with this decision that's going to ruin
23:07
this man's life. So I think by the movie,
23:09
doing that brings
23:12
everybody into it, makes it makes it a human
23:16
a human condition of what we have
23:19
to eradicate. If
23:21
that means Ryan,
23:24
I want to close with this. Michael bought it up earlier.
23:26
But what are the big and
23:28
small things we can do to help support a
23:30
world with more Bryan's these? Well, thank
23:32
you, I mean for
23:35
me. We've gotten into this mess because
23:37
we've allowed ourselves to be governed by the politics
23:39
of fear and anger. In the nineteen seventies
23:41
and eighties, we had politicians that said that people who
23:44
are drug addicted and drug dependent, those
23:46
people are criminals. We're going to use the criminal justice
23:48
system to respond to them. We shouldn't have made that choice.
23:50
We should have said that people with addiction and
23:52
dependency have a health problem. We need our healthcare
23:54
system to respond. So we have to
23:57
change the frame in this country, and
23:59
we have to the politics of fear and anger.
24:01
Fear and anger are the essential ingredients
24:04
that contribute to injustice and oppression.
24:07
Walter McMillan was convicted in this community
24:09
because people were being shaped by fear
24:11
and anger and they tolerated things they shouldn't
24:13
tolerate, the accepted things they shouldn't
24:15
accept. And I just hope people who see this film
24:18
are motivated to push past
24:20
the fear, push past the anger, and
24:22
actually do the things that justice
24:24
requires. We will have on
24:26
our site a whole catalog of opportunities
24:29
for people to get involved. There are hundreds
24:31
of organizations around the country that are looking for volunteers
24:33
to work with the thousands of people who come out of
24:35
jails and prisons every month who need help.
24:38
There are people that are doing campaigns. We
24:40
need bail reform in this country. We put people
24:42
in prison because they're poor, and we keep
24:45
them there. We need accountability
24:48
from police officers and prosecutors
24:50
and judges and we've got to change that. I want everybody
24:52
who sees this film to be motivated to
24:54
learn who the prosecutor is in the community
24:56
where they live. Most people don't know
24:58
who their prosecutor is. And
25:01
there are people who exploit that by
25:03
doing all kinds of really horrific things, but they're
25:05
never had accountable because we don't even know who
25:07
they are. And that kind of education
25:09
can be powerful. I hope people will see the film
25:11
and come to Montgomery. We've opened a museum,
25:14
we've opened a memorial. It's a place where we're trying
25:16
to tell the truth about this history of racial inequality.
25:19
It's a challenging place, but it's a necessary
25:21
place. And finally, I hope people
25:23
will come to the understanding that we've got to do better
25:26
as people who care about other people. There's an
25:28
absence of compassion and mercy
25:30
in the policy debates that we see happening around
25:33
us. There is, and when we
25:35
allow ourselves to be disconnected from
25:37
mercy and compassion, we do terrible things
25:40
to one another. We don't send crimes to prison.
25:42
We send people to prison, and when we forget
25:44
that we're sending people, we do abusive
25:46
things. And I just believe that
25:49
a community that comes together and starts
25:51
demanding more hope and more
25:53
mercy and more justice is
25:55
a community that actually begins to move
25:57
toward the kind of community that I think
26:00
all of us want to live in. We want to live in a place that's healthy,
26:02
where no one is prejudged and
26:04
treated unfairly. But to get there, we're
26:06
gonna have to make some changes, and I'm hoping
26:08
this film inspires people to engage in
26:10
the kind of day to day living that
26:13
those changes require. And I'm so
26:15
I just have to say how grateful I am
26:18
to Michael, and to Brie and to Jamie
26:20
and the entire cast and to Destined. For
26:23
me, watching the film and seeing
26:25
the humanity and the dignity of my clients
26:27
presented in such a powerful, thoughtful,
26:29
kind way was incredibly
26:32
moving. And my community,
26:34
the people of who are on death row, the
26:36
poor, the accused, the condemned,
26:39
are so excited to finally be
26:41
acknowledge, to be seen, to
26:43
be recognized, and to have their struggle
26:46
for justice to be portrayed with
26:48
such care and compassion. It's a great gift
26:50
to all of us that are trying to do human rights work
26:52
in this country, and I'm enormously grateful. I
26:56
know, I think that was the last question, but one
26:58
wolf might have been joyed. This
27:01
is a movie about a hope. So
27:03
what what what do you want that hope to be for the
27:05
people? What is that hope? M
27:08
hmm, I
27:13
want the hope to be m
27:16
hm. That's a great question that
27:22
I feel like within solidarity, if you get
27:24
enough people, that was an extra
27:26
timing all that
27:32
awesome, I feel, and
27:35
a black man get his thoughts together, he
27:38
just starts talking. Jesus, I
27:43
feel. I feel. I feel like with enough
27:45
solidarity, with enough uh
27:47
unification amongst people. I
27:51
think the numbers of people talking about the same thing,
27:53
that care about the same thing, you be able to demand
27:55
the answers from broken systems. You
27:58
know. I feel like if you get enough
28:01
of us, the internet
28:03
is a powerful thing. You know, we cancel things all the time.
28:05
You know, you get it. Behind the movement, you actually can see
28:08
some things start to actually change, from big you know,
28:10
blue collar corporations to you
28:12
know, to getting people released
28:14
from from jail. Um. You can you can
28:16
get some movement done if we all get together and push
28:18
one narrative from something that we really care about I
28:20
feel like we can really make some real change. So I think
28:23
from watching this movement, I really want people I said
28:25
it before, to to feel
28:27
like your
28:29
words matter, the things that you say
28:31
matter, your vote matters, that you can get
28:34
out and actually be a part of the change.
28:36
It just don't sit back and do nothing, because
28:38
if you sit back and do nothing, it helps No. Him
28:41
makes me like Bryan Stevens and Jamie five
28:44
Free Boston and Michael B. Jordan. J.
28:46
Murphy comes out limited relief on Christmas
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Day and wide relief on January
28:51
tenth to make sure y'all do support that I
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