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a little game which one does

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not belong one of the new york

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democrats on this list is different

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from the others which one is which

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one does not belong former

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mayor bill de blasio former

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new york city comptroller brooklyn da in brooklyn

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congresswoman elizabeth olsen congressman

1:16

monday or jones of western off

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state assembly member you we know from

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manhattan they'd assembly member

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join simon from brooklyn city

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council member coming over there i'm

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in hand and former federal

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prosecutor and msnbc legal

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analyst stand goldman best known

1:35

for being the house impeachment lawyer during the

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first impeachment trial of donald

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trump which of those does not

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belong the answer

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which some of you know doubt figured out his

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former mayor bill de blasio because after

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dropping out this week he is the only

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politician on that list not

1:53

running in the democratic primary to represent

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the new he joins tenth congressional district

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comprised mostly in lower manhattan and

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parts of brownstone brooklyn such

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as park slope red hook sunset

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park and borough park and

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they're even more candidates in that race

2:10

and i mention totaling about a dozen

2:12

in all will mention a few more names as we go

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but let's talk about this unusual and

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unusually crowded field including

2:19

the role that real estate industry campaign

2:22

donations are playing

2:24

playing now with w m i see

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in gotham his political reporter elizabeth

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kim among articles on the race

2:31

new york city real estate industry exert

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influence in high profile congressional

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race and affordable housing

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in one of new york's most expensive

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neighborhoods becomes litmus test

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in competitive congressional race

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i was can't tell the players without a scorecard

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right

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right by and or that was that

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was a really good list i'm glad you rent

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hosts out dilemma even

2:56

longer actually it was is gonna

2:58

the beginning there were like as many as sixteen

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so believe it or not it actually has whittled

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down because now we're down to

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twelve

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the

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twelve and

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each of the candidates i mentioned are relatively

3:13

well known there are others lesser

3:15

known including one named

3:17

elizabeth kim are you running for congress

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no but i think it must be kismet

3:23

that i'm covering this race has to

3:25

their fullest someone who is interested in running

3:27

named elizabeth kids she actually

3:29

did not make the ballot i'm

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not sure whether it's because she didn't have

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enough signatures or perhaps she changed

3:36

her mind i will note though that

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she raised over two hundred thousand dollars

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or the most of that was for a previous race

3:42

but that was still pretty impressive works

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are unknown

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the enemy yeah i would have

3:48

to recuse myself by the way from covering the

3:50

race if you are running because i would

3:52

be so biased and us and

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away away you're not ready but maybe i'll write

3:59

you in

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except i don't live in a district so i can

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build a blasio was almost certainly the best

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known candidate in the race why did he dropout

4:09

so in a nutshell

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it's , lack of support essentially he

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the mayor did not leave office with

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high approval ratings ratings

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one of the last poll that

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i remember looking at showed him being under forty

4:23

under and in recent

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weeks the polling on the congressional

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race shoot him in single

4:30

digits near the bottom of the pack

4:33

and his team also did their own

4:35

internal polling arm

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and she didn't do well their

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eyes are on you nice i sat

4:42

down actually with the mayor yesterday

4:45

and mean and we went over this an

4:47

what he also added was he what he

4:49

the sense that and there just wasn't public

4:52

appetite for him to run again

4:54

and you know he said he said he very

4:56

appreciative for the opportunity to

4:58

go out and campaign and speed few

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after him but he also wanted to respect

5:03

the fact that they wanted someone

5:05

different

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yeah here's a clip if

5:09

you haven't heard this of the former mayor

5:11

from his withdraw announcement video

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after he said he's been listening to the people

5:16

of the distance

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even though this is not gonna work out i

5:24

, you know how much i

5:27

appreciate you you what

5:29

i do a lot together to make the city

5:31

better city some

5:33

unseen librarian i'm also recognizes

5:36

i made mistakes i want to bet

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on the shit i want to learn from those mistakes and

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mistakes going on where experience but it's been a health

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how

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sad lives

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i know

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yeah i had the same thing for him

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yesterday i said he sounds

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sad are you sad and he is

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sad and

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the they will say that you know garth

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ennis just going to publish of

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sorts of the interview so your listeners she said

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visit the site of ah tomorrow

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to look at it on foot yeah

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i i i said you know i

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am a he is very sad to see is

6:15

he not only did he say that he's

6:17

dropping out of the race he also

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said that he does not he doesn't

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plan to run for office again because

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from a man who you know love

6:27

the campaign he used to be a strategist

6:30

and see have you know by his own

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emissions he wants to serve he

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wants to keep serving and he thinks he can serve

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but not in the capacity of

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unelected

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shop did he elaborated all

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on the mistakes that he referred

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to in that clip that he believes he made

6:48

he dead and there's some interesting things

6:50

that you know he a i asked him to be

6:52

more specific because he's he's talked

6:54

about that are disallowed

6:56

the first time he stopped

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making mistakes you know he's

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we after leaving office he wrote an essay

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in the atlantic saying

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something to the effect of you know i've made

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mistakes and i want joe biden

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to learn from them so

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, know i asked them kind of be more specific

7:14

if he talking to me to me talk specifically

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about policy a lot of

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it was about you know what

7:21

he's talked about the for which he said which wished

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that wished had been had better communicator that

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he felt that with his policies he had

7:28

all the best

7:28

intentions and i think

7:30

stalwart lead bullies and those

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policies but that he had not done

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a better job of communicating

7:37

to the public and also developing

7:40

a better report connection

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with new yorkers and i think he does

7:45

regret that and

7:48

yeah of i will cherish it's actually such

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a common answer for politicians right

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when they're asked about

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failures or mistakes they made

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me so i was right on all the issues

7:59

the issues the communicate it well enough

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to enough people to have them agree with me but

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i saw factoid that

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no new york city mayor has been elected

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to anything after leaving that office

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since the eighteen hundreds so

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if it's comforting to him he's got

8:14

a lot of company but also i saw

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our friend sort of sense of the shelters

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i come on a lot as guests for

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them political science professor christina

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greer and new york one anchor

8:26

era louis say to each other on arrow

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show last night that they think they

8:30

blasio could still have won in this

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crowded field because it's such a low turnout

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election as the best known candidates

8:37

and they such as from as strategic standpoint

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that he dropped out prematurely cook

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could there have been any reason other than

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that he was totally convinced

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he would lose

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well i i asked him about

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because i yeah i said to him listen

8:52

you know their five weeks to go you

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know as well as anybody but things

8:57

the scenes on a time in an election

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like candidate can implode

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and at the end of the day ah you

9:04

know dislike professor

9:07

greer an era lewis said

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you know he has name recognition

9:12

and i will say something that really

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rock me when i'm shortly

9:17

after he announced maybe announced day after

9:19

he announced i went and i stood in front

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of the park slope co slope interviewing

9:25

he interviewing those patrons coming that because

9:27

that is not only is that considered

9:29

like the the heart of the district

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in terms of the most engaged voters

9:34

that people expect to come out for this primary

9:37

but it's also in his neighborhood

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so a lot of the people of other shoppers

9:42

that i spoke to knew him they knew

9:44

him personally some said oh yeah he's not

9:46

a he lives like a block away

9:47

the from me

9:48

i don't know know they were

9:51

you know the kind of groaned when they heard that

9:53

or they had already heard that he was he was planning

9:55

to make this ron and be grown but

9:58

i thought that was interesting was when

9:59

ask them so are you rolling

10:02

him out does this mean but you won't

10:04

vote for him they wouldn't go that

10:06

far they told me in the world

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not voting for him but they said they'd

10:11

listen to what he had to say

10:16

but when i asked the make the former mayor about

10:18

this yesterday he knows

10:20

which he said was he still didn't

10:22

think that he had enough hi

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i'm to change their minds not a

10:26

conventional primary

10:29

by any stretch of the imagination this

10:31

imagination this very strange d to have a primary

10:34

and we're not really sure like who is

10:36

going and going to come out for this

10:38

election and you know his

10:40

reasoning was listen i've been involved

10:43

in a lot of campaigns and

10:45

he just did not see a pass

10:47

there's also the core the of resources

10:50

he was able to raise over

10:52

five hundred thousand dollars and

10:55

, put him third which

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which a field of twelve is it sounds

11:00

impressive but you have to think that you know

11:02

the to at the top monday or

11:04

jones has over three million dollars

11:07

ah damn gold men raised over

11:09

one point two million dollars

11:12

plus the fact that he has

11:14

the option of adding his own money

11:17

so when you look at that he still vastly

11:20

you know each east easy so

11:22

can't match up with those two top competitors

11:25

and he already has campaigned

11:27

that though i

11:30

think maybe he had to take that

11:32

into account as well as like if i'm

11:34

not going to win this race

11:36

and then i rack up even more campaign

11:38

that how does he pay that back

11:41

right now that we've talked about

11:43

the candidate whose no longer in

11:46

the tenth congressional district primary

11:49

were gonna take gonna short break and then

11:51

we're going to talk about bees dozen or so

11:53

candidates who still ah

11:55

including some of the prominent ones will touch

11:57

and some and less prominent ones were get into

12:00

the role that real estate money may

12:02

be playing in this race and who's

12:04

taking real estate money and who's not taking

12:06

real estate money you know not every democratic politician

12:09

even agrees to take real estate money looks like

12:11

most of them in this race i will

12:14

, about some of the endorsements

12:16

that are coming endless has an article about how

12:18

endorsements might matter more in this race

12:21

because there are so many candidates and the turnout

12:23

is expected to be so love fan

12:26

and many other races and listeners

12:28

if you live in the new congressional

12:30

this the new tenth congressional district

12:32

mom and happens and will call it

12:34

pie to brownstone brooklyn how

12:36

are you decided among all these

12:38

candidates in candidates democratic primary or what questions

12:41

would you like to ask about them with

12:43

about them y c and gotham his political reporter

12:45

elizabeth kym who's covering the race

12:47

to one two four three three w

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n y c two one two four three

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three nine six nine two

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or tweet at bryant were as we

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continue after this

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there aren't getting learn i see

13:12

here's the names you may not know

13:14

peter gleason the and

13:16

john jimmy me mod

13:19

now honda francis

13:22

and brian robinson the hose

13:24

are all candidates for the tenth

13:26

and rational district nomination district

13:28

nomination democratic party from loan and hatton

13:31

and in brooklyn in addition to

13:34

the better known candidates who we mentioned at the

13:36

top of the show his house and monday

13:38

or john julie know joe and simon

13:41

carlin over there and

13:43

dan goldman what a less

13:45

what a primary what an overwhelming choice

13:48

covering it for wm i see and arsonist

13:50

is elizabeth can who's with us

13:52

and as i said before the break we can take your questions

13:54

or how you're deciding to one two

13:57

four three three w and my see

13:59

for three nine six

14:01

nine two or tweet at brian lehrer so

14:04

so his arm remind

14:07

people exactly how we got

14:09

to this point this is like basically all of

14:11

lower manhattan you

14:13

tell me where the line is it looks to my eye

14:15

ruff eye ruff like fourteenth street but

14:18

but what is the district and

14:20

why is it new

14:22

though it a district is new

14:25

because under redistricting

14:29

you , in this listen to the you

14:31

know this is part of that protracted

14:34

protracted protracted process involving

14:37

the lawsuit which democrats

14:40

were accused of gerrymandering

14:42

so this had to be this

14:44

had redrawn i should

14:47

say by a special master

14:49

of who came up with new lines them

14:52

the different lines and the ones that democrats

14:54

had proposed so that

14:56

essentially change this district

14:58

and created an open seat on

15:01

the old tenth district was

15:03

represented by jerry nadler

15:06

and it's if you look at the map it's quite

15:08

different it's more of oh

15:10

west side sliver going as

15:12

far north as morningside

15:15

heights and then traveling

15:17

down but sticking more or less to the west

15:19

side and then going

15:21

into brooklyn so they're

15:23

both you know combinations

15:25

of brooklyn and manhattan but different

15:28

parts of brooklyn and

15:30

manhattan although there is certainly

15:32

overlap you know the biggest being

15:34

the lower lower manhattan and

15:36

you're right the new district is essentially lower

15:38

manhattan you know the area below

15:41

fourteenth street up that's how i also

15:43

ballpark it as well and then

15:45

going into on sunset

15:48

park there's like parts of

15:50

burrow hot borough hall in it

15:52

there's parts of red hook in this district

15:55

and also you know what they normally call

15:57

up and stone brooklyn and pets

15:59

if i previously mentioned right i'm

16:02

sober high think they're part part of borough

16:04

park rights obama yeah size

16:06

time and new discuss it says largely

16:09

white and affluence but the

16:11

leading candidates including number of people

16:13

of color from relatively humble

16:15

background assembly member you we knew congressmen

16:18

monday john city councilmember come in with

16:20

the so what is the path to victory

16:22

in the district generally seem to be

16:24

you know that to interesting things

16:27

that i should note you know when you're talking

16:29

about the makeup of this district

16:31

first there are just the demographics

16:34

who lives there and even when

16:36

we look at bad it is you know it is

16:38

it does tip more i believe towards

16:41

white residents but what's

16:43

more important for the candidates

16:46

is not who lives there but

16:48

cool the democratic voters

16:50

and then beyond that for simple likely

16:53

primary democratic voters that

16:55

would come out four in august

16:57

twenty third election so

16:59

it when when you widow it down and

17:02

that's when is that ah

17:05

that group of voters becomes

17:08

more white and more affluent

17:10

so the district itself does actually

17:12

contain you know it contains pockets

17:14

of asian voters for

17:16

instance there is chinatown

17:19

is chinatown this district and sunset

17:21

park has park lot of asians

17:23

and latinos the lower east side

17:26

is also diverse i'm

17:28

at so at the same time when

17:31

you look at something like that i see it because

17:34

because you know you don't know who's going to come

17:36

out because there's so many candidates the

17:38

idea is if you can still

17:40

knit together can coalition

17:42

if you can get enough progressive white voters

17:45

to vote for you and then bring along

17:48

some other coalition's like per

17:50

se the lgbtq votes

17:52

are votes less you know vote or the asian boats

17:55

that can possibly be that path

17:57

to victory him you know you mentioned those

17:59

three the ball easily new monday

18:02

or jones carolina rivera you know

18:04

that exact those that's exactly who

18:06

they are appealing to

18:08

that figure com from

18:11

the district victor in chinatown

18:13

ya wm i see hazard

18:17

hi

18:18

like i i lived in

18:21

chinatown for seventy two years and

18:23

this is the first time the

18:25

a thought it was

18:27

has not invited chinatown with some

18:29

current gerrymandering history the

18:32

first time that a court

18:34

ordered district as

18:36

united the tried on population

18:38

up hope they hadn't the the

18:42

last few years or independent they

18:44

suffered major the

18:46

a phobia anti h now

18:50

did proposing to build a fifty story jail

18:52

in chinatown them

18:55

the homeless shelters we have has

18:58

three more plan i

19:01

think it's time you know that highlights

19:04

how the

19:08

the united the vote somebody that

19:10

a to represent not these carpetbaggers

19:12

will come from somewhere house

19:15

i don't care they don't know anything about

19:17

chinatown and now issues so

19:19

should i assume you're for you he knew who currently

19:21

represents the area in the assembly

19:24

though she's one of war asian candidates

19:27

and i think there's an opportunity for the chinatown

19:31

the realize that only one candidate

19:33

gonna win they gotta wake up

19:35

and have strategy devoted to block

19:38

what he never was able to because his

19:40

of we always gerrymandering a split into different

19:43

districts with the first time to the to

19:45

tie towns are insane sister so

19:47

just the first time you can demonstrate our unity

19:50

right really interesting victor thank

19:52

you very much ah and

19:55

to his point was if

19:58

different kinds of constituent the he's

20:00

talking about chinese americans in chinatown

20:03

there any other kind of particular

20:06

demographic groups who

20:08

want to elect one of there are no one

20:10

they feel represents them well them

20:13

well he therefore asian americans

20:16

running in this race and he'd like to see

20:18

i guess we'd like to see three of them drop outs

20:20

so they don't wind up splitting that

20:22

both that my see

20:25

i'm asian american candidacy as

20:28

a plus so that's another that

20:31

another that's another hurdle

20:33

i guess for these candidates is how

20:36

to not split the vote among people very

20:38

much like you

20:40

exactly and it's not just a long

20:42

race but it's also along gender

20:45

i'm you know i didn't count that

20:47

the a week do a quick town of all their

20:49

female ah lawmakers

20:52

or candidates in the race at race time

20:54

where people are talking about

20:56

abortion rights and what com

20:58

she do to

21:01

you know but i've to ensure

21:03

or for you know

21:04

hacker ensure that in at least i'm

21:07

new york out further cements

21:09

those rights for women and also maybe

21:11

helps you

21:14

know be a sanctuary city for

21:16

women in states where abortion

21:19

is being banned i just have a want

21:21

to see that that's an excellent point but that's extra

21:23

made and other experts have made that point to me

21:25

as well as that it's very interesting

21:27

that just that disease the first

21:29

time that you have these to china towns

21:32

been united on and

21:36

we'll , what happens as that's something

21:38

that i'm you know the candidate

21:40

usually new has spoken about and

21:43

whether this will be enough to sort

21:45

of energize that electorate

21:47

and bring them together and you know

21:49

have them you know come to the primary

21:52

and then you know it's just

21:54

a very interesting moment for that as at

21:56

the test i would say for that elect

21:57

the to chinatown spearman have

22:00

in brooklyn

22:01

yeah

22:02

miranda and

22:04

go on us nother part of the district you're

22:06

on w on y c homeland

22:09

hi

22:12

i could write my concern is

22:15

thank you for having me i'm at

22:17

we were lucky to have any of alaska's advocating

22:19

for the super fun clean up hearing the oneness

22:21

and were really concerned that next representatives

22:24

i'm also is able to speak

22:26

out there are concerns especially

22:29

with the rezoning the just went through and

22:32

large amount of development that's gonna happen here

22:37

thank you very much ah

22:39

and enough neither will get into

22:41

development questions three

22:43

article about real estate industry donations

22:46

the summer the candidates anything about

22:48

the go on a super fun the

22:51

you know that you wanna say are they running on

22:53

that

22:54

he he you know that yes

22:56

there has been raised to the candidates

22:58

it's certainly an issue that's important

23:01

to arm the residents

23:03

who live in that part of the district on

23:06

that as to you know it's been a

23:08

i you know i all of the candidates are pretty

23:10

much you know on the same page when

23:12

it comes to you know things

23:14

like

23:15

the environment and a you

23:17

know

23:18

you know getting getting that

23:20

kind of federal funding that

23:22

the city needs to do something

23:24

like the super fun clean up in up an

23:26

hour and a proper thorough and transparent

23:29

manner i don't really think

23:31

that there has been much difference on that

23:33

although you know i could be wrong there they've been

23:35

having forums you know

23:37

every week you know up until

23:39

the primary so as

23:41

they had a platform last night

23:43

yeah and i guess it leads to a larger

23:45

question which is is this crap crowded

23:47

primary about issues at

23:49

all or or these

23:51

basically progressive democrats who agree

23:54

with each other on almost every issue

23:56

they be involved in in congress and

23:58

the voters need to judge the other criteria

24:00

like potential effectiveness so i

24:02

demographic representation or anything

24:05

i would say it's the latter brian

24:08

eat you know there was one really good form

24:10

that i watch that was hosted by

24:14

a group of brooklyn democratic clubs

24:16

and max

24:19

of gotham gazette was the moderator

24:21

and he did put you know a very interesting and

24:23

smart question so all the candidates

24:26

which was

24:27

what

24:28

the federal bill would

24:30

you immediately support if

24:32

you were to be elected to congress and

24:35

, remember taking notes on active of oh that's

24:37

a great question because it speaks

24:39

to what they would actually do if they were elected

24:42

and and he really saw

24:44

a lot of similarities you know all

24:46

i'm just taking notes

24:48

and looking at the major candidates in oak in saw

24:51

people said green new deal you know green

24:53

new deal

24:55

funding for public housing and

24:58

you know protections you know

25:00

ah the protections for

25:02

democracy so they're not

25:05

yeah there's not a whole lot of table between

25:08

, candidates so it does become

25:11

in all fortunately , it

25:14

almost becomes a little bit about

25:16

sometimes these like morning

25:19

meeting more nuance issues or maybe some blunders

25:22

that they might make their was

25:24

recently some ,

25:28

over comments that i'm dan

25:30

dan coleman had made in an interview

25:32

he gave to the conservatives

25:35

jewish outlet outlet idea

25:38

in which he kind of seem

25:40

to struggle with a question

25:43

work at eton tories tennis he

25:45

says that he kind of misspoke

25:47

but in which he suggested that

25:50

he might be in

25:52

favor of having some

25:54

restrictions or having or restrictions

25:56

in favor of having some abortion bans

26:00

a read beyond ah fetal

26:02

viability which is around twenty

26:04

three weeks and with the exception said it's

26:07

not due to rape or

26:09

the woman's life with not

26:11

involved and immediately

26:13

there was you know of his hello candidates

26:15

particularly the women attacked

26:18

him for that during the interview

26:20

actually he did have this moment

26:22

where right after he answer that question

26:25

and this was written up actually in

26:27

the transcripts as he

26:29

he the side with his i hate whisper to

26:31

his aid and they kind of talked it over and then

26:33

he corrected himself but at

26:36

the same time you know it has kept the other candidates

26:38

seized on that you know some of them said notices

26:40

disqualify you so you

26:42

know i i think it might in the weeks to

26:45

com i think it might be more and more

26:47

of those kinds of moments especially as

26:49

more of them do these types of inner public

26:51

interviews and go on forums

26:54

so i think we can look out

26:56

for more those kinds of skirmishes

26:59

talking about the tenth congressional district

27:01

democratic primary this crowded raise

27:04

and lower manhattan and

27:07

various neighborhoods and inner

27:09

brooklyn a little bit of breaking

27:11

news from the a p president

27:14

biden test positive for kovac

27:17

nineteen the white house says

27:19

he is experiencing very mild symptoms

27:21

as isolating and taking packs with it

27:23

so that's all we have on that our bring

27:26

you more if there's anything

27:28

more to say about that but even

27:30

the president of the united states with all the testing

27:32

the goes on before anybody comes in contact

27:35

with him can't be protected

27:37

from what is probably the be a five

27:39

i'm a crime variants a p reporting

27:42

the president biden has tested positive

27:44

for covered nineteen with the white house

27:46

saying he's experiencing very mild symptoms

27:49

isolating and taking packs

27:51

of it joseph and the

27:53

tenth district you're on w and my see

27:55

how joseph

27:57

marty kinda is

27:59

a bit

27:59

it's my first ,

28:02

d a's ran against

28:04

support machine and one controller

28:07

and an outstanding outstanding

28:10

congresswoman's when she served

28:12

in congress joseph thank

28:14

you very much yes of this name

28:17

as come as a surprise to a lot of people this

28:19

former new york city some solar solar

28:22

da brooklyn congresswoman elizabeth

28:24

holtzman eight years old rose

28:26

to national prominence as

28:29

a young member of the watergate committee

28:32

was prominent committee and

28:34

of course went on to these these other

28:36

offices new york city comptroller brooklyn

28:39

da ah she ran for us

28:41

senate from new york by didn't make

28:43

it and you know and she's been a a

28:45

commentator she's been on this show many times

28:48

because of her watergate experience

28:50

we and other media have turned to her on

28:53

the impeachment proceedings on other

28:55

presidential scandals involving

28:58

bush and cheney and others along others way

29:01

was less holzman running for congress

29:04

because she'd been a congressman before her

29:06

congresswoman before and she thinks she can do it

29:08

again in the first forum

29:10

that the candidates participated in her

29:13

line was i thought richard

29:15

nixon and i could take on donald trump

29:17

on the ladder suggesting

29:20

that you know it's likely that donald

29:22

trump would try to run again so

29:25

you know i think she looks at the wealth of

29:27

experience that she brain this

29:31

ah this position and she feels that she's

29:33

qualified and c n

29:35

c n you look at her resume she is

29:37

she certainly is qualified

29:39

and based on her appearances

29:42

on the so many including pretty

29:44

recently she certainly got a lot of

29:46

energy cell ,

29:48

people who might be tempted

29:50

to write her off because she's eighty ah

29:53

certainly as a very recently sincere

29:56

suggest on the show before she turned

29:58

back to electoral politics reminder

30:01

certainly very very shot so now

30:04

we don't want to say that any of these candidates

30:07

the were eighty or thereabouts might

30:09

be might be both

30:12

major presidential candidates in

30:15

twenty twenty four who knows but

30:18

you , don't want to write him off just on the basis

30:20

of the numbers some of the endorsements

30:22

in the race the working families party

30:25

endorsed you li know the downtown

30:28

independent democrats the largest political

30:31

club in lower manhattan new reports indoors

30:33

joanne simon the big healthcare

30:35

workers union eleven ninety union eleven

30:38

paulina rivera any other prominent

30:41

endorsements you want to mention at this point

30:44

i don't

30:45

pretty much the big ones

30:47

i think you might also add that you

30:49

know brooklyn borough president antonio were no so

30:52

has endorsed currently in a rivera

30:54

end to the extent that you

30:56

know your local council members

30:59

voice matters she also has

31:01

city council members that represent portions

31:04

of that district in her

31:06

do any of those that i mentioned cari

31:09

special weight as far as

31:11

you could tell certainly the working

31:13

families indoors working families party

31:15

endorsement of a

31:17

assembly member you li new for

31:20

this congressional seat a made

31:22

some news

31:23

right arm oh i should also add that

31:25

media the last jazz you

31:27

know she's considered a matriarch

31:29

ah you know in the in the democratic party

31:32

she endorsed rivera so that is quite

31:34

important for her candidacy as well

31:37

army know of those i would say you've

31:39

alaska's is important and also

31:42

most of all i would say the working families

31:44

party endorsement is very important

31:46

and that's because they had deep roots

31:49

in brooklyn especially in that part

31:51

of brooklyn and when you were thinking

31:53

about you know likely voters

31:55

you know the most engaged voters it's

31:58

people who are members

31:59

of that party who who

32:02

the boat on the wfp line

32:05

and , know a bear i

32:07

had i to crunch the numbers

32:10

for me and look at how

32:12

often people in that district voted

32:14

on that working families party

32:16

line and it's a lot more than in other

32:18

districts so that

32:20

would certainly help you

32:23

in in a very low temp turnout primary

32:26

whoever can mobilize

32:29

these are voters to

32:31

actually turn out so that would be unions

32:33

that would be the working families party ah

32:36

the people they endorse would certainly have

32:38

a leg up if you a new doesn't win

32:40

the primary would she run

32:42

as a third party candidate on the working

32:44

families line and challenge the democratic

32:47

nominee do know she's been ass

32:50

no i don't know whether she's been asked that

32:52

question and i i think i'll probably put

32:54

the question to her you know the next time

32:56

i speak to her i don't know whether she would do

32:58

that

32:59

and your story on endorsements includes

33:01

a political analyst who thinks the new york times

33:03

endorsement if they make one in this

33:05

primary will be especially influential

33:08

in this race why's that

33:09

because if you look

33:12

at you know

33:13

a partridge this distract i'm

33:16

you know tried dhaka greenwich village

33:19

you know as we're talking about park slope brownstone

33:21

brooklyn these are

33:24

very highly edges they'd

33:26

i'm and say affluent

33:28

you know parts of new york city and

33:31

they they also tend to be new york

33:33

times readers and when you have a

33:35

race with in this many candidates

33:37

and so little time to decide

33:40

voters need some kind

33:42

of clarifying force

33:45

and you know what better than

33:47

the newspaper of record i'm

33:49

they have actually your i looked at it they

33:52

have a mixed record on endorsements

33:54

but if you look most recently

33:56

at the democratic mayoral

33:59

primary

33:59

when they endorse catherine garcia

34:02

then she didn't win of course but

34:04

it did give her a big bump

34:07

so , be very interesting to see

34:09

you know who they choose an

34:12

you know what that does for the candidate

34:14

your article

34:16

on real estate industry donations

34:18

in this race you report that the biggest recipients

34:21

among the leading candidates ah

34:23

damn golvin carmina rivera and monday

34:25

or johns that as you also

34:27

report this comes year after years

34:30

of progressive democrats making a point of refusing

34:32

to take real estate industry money while

34:34

these congressional primary candidates in

34:37

this kind of district taking real estate

34:39

money at all

34:42

there are a lotta candidates and they need to compete

34:44

and they need they all need resources

34:47

so , think any as they

34:50

can get in a competitive race

34:52

you know they're not going to i i i

34:55

think yeah i think at the end of the day

34:57

and i wonder if if you look back even to the

34:59

twenty keane may oral

35:01

primary you know a lot of the candidates

35:03

you know they have the anti real estate

35:05

rhetoric but at the same time you

35:08

know they did take real estate

35:10

money so this this tends to happen

35:13

a lot that the same

35:15

time if it doesn't it doesn't mrs it's sure

35:17

not to necessarily hurt the candidates

35:19

will be this will also be an interesting test

35:21

i mean a lot has changed since twenty

35:24

third team in be intensity

35:26

i think of

35:28

the

35:29

the criticism of the real estate

35:32

industry i think it's always been there but

35:34

i seem to you know through the years there have been

35:36

more progressive democrats

35:38

who say i'm not taking any many

35:40

saying he i'm from real estate

35:42

that's that's definitely been something of

35:45

, why we decided to focus on

35:47

this industry because you know

35:50

because he just it was interesting to see

35:52

that they were taking such a big role in israel

35:54

the

35:55

let me assure that one of the candidates in particular

35:59

in this respect who your article

36:01

mentioned some big donors to and that

36:03

stand goldman the former house

36:05

impeachment prosecutor and msnbc

36:07

analysts developers from the related

36:10

companies as it's called the durst organization

36:13

and the real estate an asset management giant

36:15

blackstone or made the maximum

36:17

allowable contribution of twenty nine hundred

36:19

dollars and in some cases their

36:21

spouses and colleagues did so to

36:24

began goldman lives is also

36:26

as you know an heir to the levi strauss

36:29

clothing fortune so i would

36:31

even need to take as politically suspect

36:34

because i think the choice for him

36:37

is yes yeah you could

36:39

think that some one misses wealthy

36:41

could self fund but

36:43

does it send a better statement

36:46

to voters to show that you're able

36:48

to raise this money

36:49

on your own

36:51

i'm an ice think you

36:53

, his calculus is that

36:55

the latter is because it and

36:57

you know not and not everyone in

37:00

this district might feel the same way

37:02

about real estate money they might

37:04

not even notice you know

37:06

that pay attention to this

37:09

list of names and you know make those

37:11

distinctions may be at the end of the day what

37:13

they notices oh you know the

37:15

the was able to raise over one point two million

37:17

dollars in the span of a month

37:20

which was pretty impressive so i think

37:22

that it's is you know is it makes him stand

37:24

out better than to just you know

37:26

hop give himself a personal loan

37:30

arm i think you know in recent days we saw

37:32

tell him and look maloney who

37:34

is in a very tough race against

37:36

are in adler's she made some headlines

37:38

for giving herself headlines campaign

37:40

a nearly one million

37:41

dollar alone

37:43

many of scrutiny scam or

37:45

any of the major candidates in

37:48

this race tenth congressional district

37:50

explicitly refusing to take real

37:52

estate money just in case that voting

37:54

issue for people listening right now

37:56

i heard that from the

37:58

major candidates but it's worth

37:59

noting that you mean new when

38:02

we were going through all

38:04

donations that you know

38:06

of

38:06

what you would call you know the me

38:08

your contenders are top known contenders i

38:10

should say she had the

38:12

least amount or it's been a relatively

38:15

instance the almost insignificant amount

38:17

of real estate donors but that did not come

38:19

as a surprise to us you know she's

38:22

the working families parties candidate

38:26

for a reason that you know that and new

38:28

progressive democrats have been very critical

38:30

of real estate for trying to push

38:33

industry friendly policies that

38:35

they feel have exacerbated or contributed

38:37

the affordable housing crisis

38:39

at you know affordable housing is one of the key

38:42

issues for new on her platform

38:44

so it's so i would say like of the candidates

38:47

she isn't explicitly said she's refusing the money

38:49

but she doesn't have much

38:50

yeah and one

38:53

more note before you run out of time that one

38:55

more candidate and his funding

38:57

monday or jones you report comes with

38:59

the biggest more chest overall people

39:02

watch a lot of news on tv is deathly seen

39:04

his commercials some of the others

39:06

on tv with commercials as well

39:08

but monday or jones he moved from westchester

39:11

to brooklyn apparently just

39:13

to run this race is kind congressional district

39:16

is in westchester and rockland he's the congressman

39:18

from the tappan zee bridge might say why

39:21

did he make this move and is he being

39:23

received as authentic enough or is being

39:25

an outsider

39:27

so the mother jones

39:29

out when he was elected he was

39:31

one of the first open

39:32

we day members of congress

39:35

and he's a frequent msnbc

39:37

contributor yeah he's country skis considered

39:39

quite popular in his home districts

39:41

but after the district king ah

39:44

do seem to get sean patrick

39:46

maloney

39:47

sure if you don't know it's ahead of the democratic

39:49

congressional campaign committee which is no

39:51

quite an importance position

39:53

the part another hudson valley democratic

39:56

congressman

39:57

exactly announced that he would

39:59

run

39:59

for that district so

40:02

, and basically you know if it

40:04

puts jones and a real quandary does

40:06

he run against is very prominent

40:09

you know i'm democrat

40:11

or does he find another way and

40:13

i guess you know his decision with that he would find

40:15

another way and he saw this tenth district

40:18

as somewhere a place

40:20

where he has connections to as

40:22

a gay man arm you know this

40:24

the birth ago he speaks about both

40:26

person stonewall movement and

40:28

you know he frequently visited there and then

40:30

he ultimately has moved to brooklyn

40:33

so now he is a resident of the district

40:36

ah

40:37

but yeah i think his challenge though

40:39

is still being an outsider

40:42

and he does have so he has

40:44

over three million dollars in part because

40:46

as i said he was a very popular congressman

40:48

he was already raising money toward

40:51

his reelection in his old district

40:53

so he can already with

40:56

you know that money and then and then

40:58

a little bit more and in the

41:00

last month but not a lot so but he

41:02

now does have the benefit

41:04

the money to spend an

41:06

we've talked before on the show them how angry

41:08

a lot of progressive is our our congressmen

41:10

sean patrick maloney after this

41:13

redistricting he's the head of the

41:15

democratic congressional campaign committee

41:17

meaning he's the one who's supposed

41:19

to be reading all these democrats

41:22

and swing districts around the country to try

41:24

to hold the house and know how

41:26

to run in swindon swing districts and everything

41:29

and rather than stay in what is basically

41:32

his current district which

41:34

might be now a little more competitive

41:36

for republican and try to

41:38

lead by example and when and as in

41:40

as swing district himself he

41:43

did what many progressive see as

41:45

poaching monday or john c by declaring

41:47

by declaring district and the domino

41:49

effect push jones to moved

41:52

to brooklyn and join the cat and

41:54

congressional district primary

41:56

scrum so very leave it for

41:58

today with wm i see him this

42:00

reporter with can who among other things is covering

42:02

this tenth congressional primary district i

42:04

remember voters the primary

42:07

for this and all the congressional

42:09

races and all the state senate races it

42:11

is on august 23rd if you're not

42:13

already registered register, if

42:16

you're an absentee ballot voter recently,

42:19

you need to send for an absentee ballot

42:21

for this one-day

42:23

deadline is one of

42:25

the days in early august i don't have the exact

42:27

date, but you don't have that time left

42:29

and obviously lives

42:31

you'll continue to cover the 10th, congressional district

42:33

race and considering all these

42:35

be in it and what's at stake i think

42:38

we'll be talking again

42:39

help so brian thank you so much for

42:41

having me