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the eighteenth of April. Twenty Twenty Four A

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monocle radio. Hello

1:13

and welcome to the briefing live from

1:15

Studio One here at Minnery House in

1:17

London. I'm Chris Cermak coming up on

1:19

today's program. India heads to the polls

1:21

tomorrow for a six week long election,

1:24

but is it already a done deal?

1:26

For an arranger mode? He's Bj P

1:28

will preview the start. After that

1:30

will have the latest business Headlines will

1:32

look at Germany's arrest of to German

1:34

Russian saboteurs. Are. Bringing the second

1:36

part of our special spring global count

1:39

down and finally we have a similar

1:41

ambition as all of Snagged on bridges

1:43

making the were a little bit better

1:45

taunted by project. Will head back to

1:47

Milan to join Monocles team at Salon

1:50

It Dell More Miller. All that right

1:52

here on the briefing with me. Chris

1:54

Tarmac. Tomorrow

2:02

marks the start of the world's

2:04

largest democratic exercise as Indian voters

2:06

had to the polls and a

2:08

six week long process that if

2:10

the prognosticators are to be believed

2:13

will hand Prime Minister Narendra Modi

2:15

party and unprecedented third consecutive term.

2:17

Moody's. Hindu nationalists. Bjp remains the

2:20

country's most popular force, though critics

2:22

would say their popularity has been

2:25

aided by some underhanded tactics targeting

2:27

targeting the country's media and opposition.

2:30

Autonomy. Now is my Us Arma journalist

2:32

based in Bangalore my at Welcome back

2:35

to the program. First will tell us

2:37

how Narendra Modi himself has has positioned

2:39

himself in the last month or so.

2:41

What's his pits? When.

2:44

He has been saddling around the

2:46

country of cross this huge in

2:48

all country despite a heatwave on

2:50

in many regions forty degrees plus

2:52

in many areas he is just

2:54

received. A face of the Bjp

2:56

is presenting himself as the absolutely

2:58

does he talking about movie guarantees

3:01

as the biggest selling point for

3:03

his party in his bid to

3:05

come back to power for the

3:07

third consecutive up. His act of

3:09

Congress much as the campaign of

3:11

the Bjp is about touching the

3:13

opposition. Including the Paul Raith and

3:16

other parties saying that they failed

3:18

to deliver on many fronts, it

3:20

has been in many ways a

3:22

negative campaign. Say what? The.

3:25

Country suffers under the initial years of

3:27

Congress who although he has of course

3:29

meet in south of the last ten

3:31

years in says it's it's been a

3:33

very very volatile campaign in V. Mocking.

3:36

Of course the intoxication that in behind

3:38

jailed many of the opposition that he

3:40

decides that in jail including the Delhi

3:42

chief minister been to educate you Alex

3:45

we talked about love said he still

3:47

in jail know these the him and

3:49

is that in that way by miscibility

3:51

is going ahead going around the country

3:53

of course campaigning have stopped for the

3:55

hundred and two feet which movie built

3:58

in to borrow campaigning stop yesterday. There

4:00

is a today silent period, but

4:02

he seems all chest to try

4:04

and take on the electricity back

4:06

power in June when the counting

4:09

happens. When. My or has he

4:11

mentioned their last time that we spoke

4:13

on the show was after the arrest

4:15

of the opposition leaders from the A

4:18

P party that covers governs New Delhi

4:20

itself. There is this united opposition alliance

4:22

with a how has that impacted the

4:24

opposition coalition more broadly. What's what's their

4:27

role at this point? Who's kind of

4:29

taking the lead? Was.

4:31

A coalition of course does have its

4:34

ups and downs but I would say

4:36

that over the past few weeks the

4:38

opposition that known as the India Block

4:40

has been able to get it's that's

4:42

more or less together. They are working

4:44

as a team except in some states

4:46

like the southern Indian state of Kerala

4:48

where they are fighting against each other

4:50

for college so that elsewhere say he

4:52

has been able to present a united

4:55

front desk talking about that common themes

4:57

together. The Bad: because trust really has

4:59

been the decline in a democracy. What

5:01

they. See as a decline in democracy

5:03

India. The targeting of course of up this leaders

5:05

of. themselves of posse accounts being

5:07

frozen meat have been put into

5:09

prison for the also talking about

5:11

attempt to devise is the country

5:14

as attempt to actually make communities.

5:16

Fight. Against each other. They say this

5:19

divisive politics. Is what was he. Locks.

5:21

The Bjp and they're using that's a

5:24

lot little to attacking the government on

5:26

issues of unemployment, unemployment figures in India,

5:28

or uncomfortably hi the total that inflation,

5:30

The total that corruption behind a little

5:32

bombs which is a has with a

5:35

rather dubious method of funding political parties,

5:37

they are taking on to the government's

5:39

the ruling party on those stunts and

5:41

they have been able to present a

5:44

more or less united front of the

5:46

last two weeks leading up to the

5:48

building itself. Why? Wanted to

5:50

touch on the economy but before we get

5:53

the that this democracy aspect that you say

5:55

the opposition is raising, How successful has that

5:57

been? I mean it's something that we all.

6:00

The focus on you know outside

6:02

of India but is it reaching

6:04

through to voters? What are their

6:06

main issues that are making them

6:08

passionate about the selection? What

6:10

unemployment is A she was faster. As

6:13

many people are finding it very difficult

6:15

to manage with inflation is trying to

6:17

keep pace with a rise in the

6:20

cost of living. But unfortunately I think

6:22

in many ways this whole debate on

6:24

democracy. Is. Restricted as often

6:26

happens dealt the world as well

6:29

to social media. The. People

6:31

who are complaining about it may be

6:33

talking echo chambers and greetings of the

6:35

but if a. But there is definitely

6:38

a point being raised, at least on

6:40

social media and in some of the

6:42

increasingly shrinking number of media houses were

6:44

ready to take on the government. Talking

6:47

about the decline in democratic values in

6:49

this country of India, that is an

6:51

issue I'm not really sure if it's

6:53

visitation with the. Person. On the

6:56

ground to is concerned about his or her.

6:59

Income. The fool with the money

7:01

they're getting to the crop Say going. I

7:03

think the economy is really a big

7:05

issue for them. but Narendra Modi of

7:07

course presenting figure saying that things are

7:10

much much better under the India Letters

7:12

the coalition of the Bjp, another party

7:14

t saying that they have done much

7:16

better. Than. The congress led coalition

7:19

which preceded them. For

7:21

that's what I wanted to get into

7:23

when it came to the economy as

7:25

well. What is your sense there to

7:27

of how voters are feeling? There are

7:29

sort of multiple sides to this are

7:31

in there because India's economy in terms

7:33

of growth is doing very well and

7:35

has grown to become the fifth largest

7:37

economy in the world. But as he

7:39

mentioned, unemployment is particularly high. So what

7:41

does your sense of whether Modi will

7:43

be rewarded for his handling of the

7:46

economy. Well,

7:48

I think India perhaps more than any other

7:50

country in the world. It's a place where

7:52

the rich are getting richer, the poor getting

7:54

poorer. The bulk. Of the

7:56

world is concentrated in the top few

7:58

percent of people and. The rich are

8:00

getting enormously almost obscene leverage if I

8:03

could say that as the are charges

8:05

of crony capitalism Also gift Prime Minister

8:07

Modi, and the Btp itself says the

8:10

government in power has been favoring v

8:12

big corporate houses in terms of a

8:14

lot of them contracts, in terms of

8:17

maybe even twiddling the law forbids to

8:19

make it more to make their businesses

8:21

more profitable. That is of course, a

8:24

huge charge and. Definitely

8:26

the middle class who may have been seeing

8:28

their investments growth in the stock market doing

8:30

seeing the growth of this say they. Can

8:34

watch. That movie

8:37

come back on in casual talk You

8:39

hear people say invest now because after

8:41

the election the markets really good to

8:43

go even higher that that is the

8:45

sense among the middle class and among

8:47

the wealthy the poor again surviving v

8:49

to they are hoping for jobs the

8:51

hoping to some kind of. Relief.

8:53

From the difficulties of the Fcc. And

8:56

whether they'll take that concern to the ballot

8:58

box of that's really the nine hundred and.

9:01

Million both a question just finally to follow of

9:03

i'm at my a quick repeat. You almost give

9:05

the same fair that Modi is not that particular

9:08

popular. I mean if there is something them he

9:10

would focus on to say why he is going

9:12

to get a third term, What is it. He

9:16

has been stressing on the

9:18

whole Hindutva. Concept. The

9:20

whole a feeling that kindles the Hindu

9:23

majority in the country is in danger.

9:25

He has created an enemy among the

9:27

minorities of the country and saying that

9:29

they are perhaps of it will see

9:31

of course the nice to see a

9:34

forces he isn't that there is a

9:36

perception says the Bjp is that seat

9:38

dividing the country along religious lines and

9:40

that by trying to consolidate the hidden

9:42

the water into a feeling of we

9:44

are there to protect you We are

9:47

there to keep you safe is that

9:49

may be played. On the minds of

9:51

many voters who feels yes we need

9:53

this kind of protection we haven't the

9:55

campaign be seen Bjp leaders firing imaginary

9:58

arrows at a much shit. Richard

10:01

against Minorities is seen. All that

10:03

we have, we're still witnessing. It's

10:05

in the campaigning itself, so that

10:08

could be away. Hughes we should

10:10

be full. He. Opens that a

10:12

huge Rama Monday The Ram

10:14

Temple back in January and

10:16

it's festive! Just. Yesterday

10:18

it was love at all either celebration of

10:21

the birthday of No Rama of the by

10:23

many Hindus. So he's tied up

10:25

religion a lot with is competing with

10:27

his policies and that does seem to

10:29

be working. In many areas of the country,

10:32

Thanks. Very much My other was Maya Sharma.

10:34

Now here's karma to rebel or with the days

10:36

of a new headlines. Express.

10:39

The Israeli Prime minister has worn

10:41

out. His country alone will decide

10:43

the nature of any retaliation for

10:45

Iran's attack on Saturday nights. Western

10:47

countries have pleaded for restraints. United

10:49

States, the European Union, and the

10:51

G Seven group all announced plans

10:53

to consider Titus sanctions on Iran

10:55

seen as aimed at trying to

10:58

pacify Israel. The United Nations Security

11:00

Council is expected on Friday to

11:02

vote on a Palestinian requests for

11:04

fool Un membership. Israel's allied United

11:06

States is expected to block the

11:08

request. Because it would effectively

11:10

recognize a Palestinian. State and

11:12

Crisis. Long dominating Really? H

11:15

D said party has warned the

11:17

country's parliamentary elections, but without a

11:19

majority, they prepare for difficult coalition

11:21

talks with the far right party.

11:24

Homeland Movement has potential kingmakers. Those

11:26

holidays. Headlines back to Chris. Thanks.

11:29

Very much current on it. Now to

11:31

the latest business headlines with the Head

11:33

of Investment at Interactive Investor Victoria Scholar

11:36

Victoria. Thanks very much for coming onto

11:38

the show! Let's start with Easy Jet.

11:40

Their shares are getting a boost today

11:42

because demand is doing pretty well although

11:45

there are of course my disruptions like

11:47

so many airlines for Israel. Yes,

11:50

That's absolutely right, So Easy just

11:52

is hoping for a strong some

11:54

that's a troubled Amanda. So courses

11:57

typically that ah most popular see

11:59

there are and it's also full

12:01

cost saving a smaller than expected

12:03

lost over winter which tends to

12:05

be reached at the time of

12:07

the year that it finds itself

12:09

in devised a difficulty in terms

12:11

of demand and also sales in

12:14

earnings at that consumers in Europe

12:16

clearly continuing to prioritize their summer

12:18

holidays even at the expenses are

12:20

other spending. Amid pressures from the

12:22

Cost of Living crisis and elevated

12:24

interest rates of an Easy Jet

12:26

says it is confident that it

12:29

can deliver another record. Summer

12:31

performance which is why the stockists

12:33

at trading sharply higher extending recent

12:35

games. But they're also concerns like

12:37

you say about disruptions to travel

12:39

in the Middle East. Easy chess

12:42

with cancelled flights to Israel until

12:44

Oct just this week and not

12:46

a cause Follows are ramping up

12:48

of geopolitical tensions and Easy Jet

12:50

says that it's reallocating and destinations

12:53

for a C stronger demand going

12:55

forward say places like Malaga a

12:57

mediocre as well as other holiday

12:59

hot. Spots in Portugal and I'm

13:01

Suzanne. For City Bike says to follow up

13:04

on their quickly victoria or means you get

13:06

the sense that this is something specific about

13:08

what how easy jet is doing with its

13:10

demand or is this also feeding through to

13:12

other airlines? Know. I

13:14

think we're seeing it across the local

13:17

scary as And what's been interesting to

13:19

see is that The Life Easy Chair

13:21

and Ryanair and others have been raising

13:23

their prices amid the inflationary background, the

13:25

costs going up from everything at. From.

13:28

Wages to a energy, but consumers

13:30

still seem to be taking on

13:32

those extra places and not deterred

13:35

by the thought that or even

13:37

the local car is becoming more

13:39

expensive. Search shows that consumers are

13:41

willing to let go of that

13:43

presses holiday pay as. Well

13:46

as focus on one other story. Victoria

13:48

for it. Today we're getting results from

13:50

another company Netflix later in the afternoon.

13:53

What we expect from a. Yes,

13:56

So all eyes on Netflix because it's

13:58

kicking off earnings season in the tax

14:00

act. as a cook, guess some plays

14:02

into a house on the other tech

14:05

jobs might share this period. And the

14:07

So: it's had an impressive run lately.

14:09

It's gained about thirty percent already. This

14:11

Yes, I think the real focus is

14:13

gonna be on subscriber growth because because

14:16

in the last two quarters, the streaming

14:18

platform has enjoyed Stella subscriber growth in

14:20

that's because his been clamping down on

14:22

Paul Says Eric So it managed to

14:25

get twenty two million new subscribers in

14:27

the second half of last yes, thought

14:29

that tailwind. Could start to fade now

14:31

because a lot of those extra

14:33

subscribers have already been counted. So

14:35

we're looking at new subscriber numbers

14:37

of somewhere around five medium which

14:39

is still pretty strong compared seth

14:41

year before. But also be looking

14:43

at the performance of how it's

14:45

cheaper Ad supported tear is holding

14:48

up. this is something that it

14:50

introduced at the time bustle, cost

14:52

of living pressures and encourage people

14:54

not to switch off best streaming

14:56

accounts and now about one in

14:58

three me sign else do. At

15:00

subscribes the ad supported model so that's can

15:02

be as certainly something to watch as well.

15:05

The tricks the trade for subscriptions. Victoria Scholar,

15:07

Thank you very much. You're listening to the

15:09

briefing. I'm in a Canadian. Your

15:22

back with the briefing on Monaco radio.

15:24

I'm Chris Tucker Max For the past

15:26

few months, much of the talk around

15:28

Ukraine has been whether on whether Western

15:30

support is waning or being undermined, and

15:33

whether Russia is gaining the upper hand.

15:35

While. In Germany today to German

15:37

Russian citizens were arrested for trying

15:39

to actively sabotage Western support and

15:42

aid for Ukraine. Including a

15:44

possible plans to attack Us

15:46

military facilities. One. Of them

15:48

and was allegedly fighting for pro Russian Separatists

15:50

in the Donetsk Republic or the Way Back

15:52

In Twenty Four Team. For. Joining

15:54

me for more on this is Steven

15:57

the Our Russia and List and regular

15:59

Monocle Radio contributors. The even good have you

16:01

on the program. As always, these two men.

16:03

Face. A whole range of accusations. What do

16:06

we know about what these two men were

16:08

planning? First school is

16:10

important point out that they are dual

16:12

nationals they both have Russian gospels as

16:15

well as German police force. There are

16:17

a lot of to national Russian Germans

16:19

living in Germany so that shouldn't surprise

16:22

us and but the they've been named

16:24

without surname said his dieter S and

16:26

Alexander J A that's all the of

16:29

the the Bavarian police have told us

16:31

so far A D to as is

16:33

the one who as you mentioned and

16:36

it seems have fought in the Donbass

16:38

on the Russian side. Between twenty

16:40

forty than Twenty sixteen and he

16:42

is accused of plotting an explosion

16:44

of birth of thing in contact

16:46

with Russian Military Intelligence and Alexander

16:48

J. It's is accused

16:51

of much more recently assisting the

16:53

To as helping him to identify

16:55

potential targets, which the idea is

16:58

that between these two they would

17:00

gun blow them up faces like

17:02

and Us military facilities in Germany.

17:06

Now. This is going back to

17:08

rather old school spying and sabotage.

17:10

Frankly mean, to what extent do

17:12

we imagine that Vladimir Putin regime

17:14

itself could be involved in directing

17:16

this. Oh. I have known as

17:18

a tool for the remote interacting with and I

17:21

think that one of the. Dangers.

17:23

In recent years as we've become

17:25

a digital societies and everything is

17:27

is online and so on a

17:30

meat we assume that intelligence is

17:32

entirely something that stance on the

17:34

on the dark web or all

17:36

with with electronic means and there

17:39

was a thing as a disabuse

17:41

ago they these two about in

17:43

the army as humans. Human

17:45

intelligence and used to, you still cannot

17:47

beat to meant to someone on the

17:49

ground who can actually go and have

17:51

a look at something. Even with a

17:53

setting up, a satellite can see certain

17:55

things on the see from space, but

17:57

it can be quite easy to hide.

18:00

Right Military equipment. At from

18:02

a satellite. Where. Somebody that he

18:04

on the ground who can actually see

18:06

with their eyes you can take photos

18:08

of me. That's one area where things

18:10

have developed with everyone now has a

18:12

camera on their phone so you don't

18:14

have to have a secret cameras. very

18:16

easy to take pictures without anyone realizing

18:19

how on your smartphone and and so

18:21

this human intelligence is. Humans I is

18:23

is are still a vital importance and

18:25

Mr. Bruton as a. Train spies

18:27

himself and l those around him know the

18:29

value of the So. I have absolutely no

18:31

doubt said that they said these men up

18:33

to this and others to. I think this

18:35

could be the tip of an iceberg. Well.

18:38

That was going to my next question.

18:40

I mean, if human intelligence is this

18:42

crucial once again, what is your sense

18:44

of whether even if the public France

18:46

is not as aware of this, Whether

18:48

the West where the German authorities Us

18:51

authorities how aware are they were they

18:53

caught off guard by this what are

18:55

they kind is doing to try and

18:57

counteract some of these efforts? Are we

18:59

ready for this kind of old school

19:01

return to spine sabotage? The.

19:04

Soap. And I think that ah security

19:06

services in particular are aware of this. they

19:09

they realize that this isn't the human intelligence

19:11

has never gone away and and I think

19:13

the fact that the at the Germans have

19:15

announced that they've arrested these two men and

19:18

is a sign that that that they are

19:20

aware they say knows he still goes on

19:22

his undies as a case or so in

19:25

Austria moments and man called at is a

19:27

gusto ot. Who. Was arrested at the

19:29

end of March and bet is accused of spying

19:31

for Russia. so you know there's another little bit

19:33

of the iceberg as a site and so I

19:35

I had no doubts that. That. This

19:37

is going on in the but that

19:39

are and intelligence services in the west

19:42

and I had to a certain extent

19:44

ah ah the police forces or said

19:46

know about this government's know about this

19:48

and they will be doing as much

19:50

as they can to as it's trying

19:52

combat this and scene. When it comes

19:54

to the rhetoric side of this I

19:56

just wonder what you're taking on. I

19:58

mean particularly insane germ. It's not as

20:01

if this spying and sabotage isn't

20:03

entering fertile ground. There is a

20:05

debate within Germany. There are those

20:07

voices who are either pro Russian

20:09

or let's say not as willing

20:11

to support Ukraine and kind of

20:13

turned Germany's economy upside down for

20:15

this? I mean, how do we

20:17

imagine that stories like this, arrests

20:19

like this will come into that

20:21

debate? There we are, we. Do

20:23

You expect that in countries like

20:25

Germany to the there will be

20:27

this, you know looking over everyone's

20:29

shoulder. At this point for who's

20:32

who's responsible, who supported by whom

20:34

the Germany's crucial in all this

20:36

Germany is see is Europe's single

20:39

biggest said so nature of aid

20:41

to Ukraine and Germany is currently

20:44

leading a plan to send more

20:46

air defense and including american built

20:48

patriot a defense which is the

20:51

best. To Ukraine and

20:53

and it's become particular crucial because

20:55

of course this a on pass

20:57

in in Congress in the Usa

20:59

where they've been waiting six months

21:01

to approve a huge A bill.

21:04

For. Ukraine including military aid. So while

21:06

that's happening in that may be resolved

21:08

this weekend we will see some the

21:11

lookout for on but in the

21:13

meantime you're of is doing his bit

21:15

and Germany is leading and the it's

21:17

a variance in case because it that

21:20

when the war first started in February

21:22

twenty two and there was a lot

21:24

of opposition in Germany to two

21:26

opposing Russia and since the breakup of

21:29

the Soviet Union indeed just before that.

21:31

So the late eighteen nineteen eighties and

21:33

German business. Moved into Russia in a

21:36

big way. They took advantage of this

21:38

new Haga which asked to strike and

21:40

glass system and moved in and they

21:42

built hops. Huge contacts. Germany had more

21:44

contacts a business contacts in Russia than

21:46

any other country in Europe as well

21:48

and the business lobby in Germany was

21:50

actually pretty. The zippers and or sandy

21:52

behind the scenes as well. There's even

21:55

more a fuss going on about the

21:57

what what to Germany should be doing

21:59

in the war with you rained on

22:01

Russia's side. I'm finally they actually be

22:03

that they dated, succeed and now in

22:05

in winning the day and seventy has

22:07

been giving this a but it doesn't

22:09

mean to say that those business interests

22:11

and indeed those with the dual citizenship

22:14

those who are actually Russian. Ah

22:16

have gone away and so and the

22:18

I think German security services will be

22:20

working overtime to us to since her

22:22

to try and stop more This another

22:24

said before I'm I'm sure this not

22:27

a unique case. Stephen.

22:29

Yeah, thank you very much for joining us. You're

22:31

listening to the briefing a monocle radio. And.

22:39

Now it is time for another special

22:41

edition of the Global Countdown. Today Monocles

22:43

front and August and Prosecco speaks with

22:45

Tom Edwards about the selection of spring

22:47

music. A highlights that a set to

22:49

be added to the Monocle radio play

22:51

Miss let's have a Listen. You

23:03

are listening to the Global

23:05

Countdown on Monaco radio and

23:07

it's the second part of

23:09

a special spring time. Two

23:12

parter toes tappers music to

23:14

fit the mood. longer

23:16

evenings. Early summer

23:19

sunshine that kind of I'd our

23:21

fans nano gusto specific always the.

23:23

Man toss with bringing. The.

23:25

Sunshine? say. And

23:28

good vibes such on a good

23:30

mouth a teenage listeners will recall

23:32

from last week. We set a

23:34

very nice tempo. It was since

23:36

it was easy it was up

23:38

beat. Is

23:40

it more to sign the some and

23:42

tell me what's informed your selection more

23:44

of the same insect? the for some.

23:46

within a year it's funny disband because

23:48

they it is a vibe in itself

23:50

does lot of kind of instrumentals is

23:53

very gentle is perfect for you know

23:55

a dinner parties. it's spring you know

23:57

he can save you guessed outside hopefully.

23:59

I love. Try connecting the are very

24:01

creative is funny because our last art is

24:03

less time was Dion said. I said that

24:05

you know she grew up in taxes and

24:08

I believe this band the also from Texas

24:10

and also very much loved specially by people

24:12

here in the office. it's crumbling Stevan you

24:14

are Boil A solid if I may say

24:16

people should buy the new Monaco issue. I

24:19

wrote a review of their album Our Solar

24:21

but let's have a listen to Pump Home

24:23

by Crumbling. Highlighted

24:44

you know it is a vibe and

24:46

in autumn I need to those taxes

24:48

know the must business. So much like

24:50

interesting musicians coming from there as he

24:53

next time ago to do as that

24:55

stuff new minus a incredibly interesting and

24:57

diverse music st seemingly absolutely are destined

24:59

to have them. I'm okay so as

25:02

you Texas stars from the Lone Star

25:04

state is it we phone number for

25:06

thy son and or something completely different

25:08

we're heading to Hong Kong or any

25:11

sack the summer. Have to say I

25:13

was inspired. By David Stevens and oh

25:15

he did a special selected it's not

25:17

often his life he did especially selection

25:19

of music for our cheese conference in

25:21

Hong Kong. Of course there's been plenty

25:23

of aren't is lot of tend to

25:25

pop and this lady within a here.

25:27

She's a seventy six year old lady

25:29

and she's iconic. She's a great actress

25:31

who won several awards but she's also

25:33

a musician so we're going to use

25:35

some elegance disco from Hong Kong I

25:37

believe from the late seventies so we

25:39

do like to add some or tracks

25:42

as well. This is Denise Eat. With

25:44

Kings Kings. It's

26:06

about his old for for old

26:08

school think in terms. Wow good

26:11

stuff that is that powerful. seventies,

26:13

late seventies discovered. think to the

26:15

gym. I kind of era. This

26:17

is. A C O A

26:19

wounded a note because the next strike again

26:22

I'd like that that the today actually the

26:24

sums a very different each other. Are you

26:26

big son of finish off or trap I'm

26:28

he'd say clear clear the way let me

26:30

through. Certainly speediest of casual bit but this

26:32

song is amazing. It's a new some from

26:35

thing that's been topping the charts their eyes

26:37

by two of the biggest names and finish

26:39

music. at the moment I was talking to

26:41

our you know late monocacy be the one

26:43

is not access you do allied see it

26:46

as of off on a set of photo

26:48

courtesy of. Because he is very much

26:50

still alone, is very much alive or

26:52

he's also big. Sand is eggs Zulu

26:54

and Ben with to Neasden tempting. As.

27:20

I've heard that listeners so what are

27:22

we talking finished trap something out of the

27:25

he's a big name in in since

27:27

offer trump A I mean it's a big

27:29

seen them England and Ben isn't she

27:31

the more popular pop star in Ohio

27:33

and it's as he. The culmination between both

27:35

of then makes a perfect hit for

27:37

the spring. Or

27:40

said it wasn't him for a moment. Some

27:42

of this is thrown me success as what

27:44

when we got up to with that number

27:46

three on there was them with three and

27:48

and I'm gonna tell you again okay because

27:50

we are going people over the show was

27:52

he got a number to It's crazy. It's

27:54

another old track from Brazil, this time from

27:56

the mid eighties which has Zinc is I

27:58

love the mid eighties in Brazil's costs. Of

28:00

course we had a little bit of another

28:02

but we had the Brazilian New wave movement

28:04

as well and I've seen the combination of

28:06

both is perfect symbol my say slyly cheese

28:08

even but I don't see solely not one

28:10

of your selection. yes I I don't think

28:12

he sees his ministers come to idea. I

28:15

mean. I. Think know many people

28:17

outside Brazil would know him personally should

28:19

and that's why I've added to the

28:21

playlist. It's a lovely track. Is Kosovo

28:23

say only you as have a listen.

28:53

As a give me a sense and other

28:55

what would have been as you say what

28:57

was he loves his their video to go

28:59

to that track or what would have been

29:01

rocky did it was it some folded up

29:03

slave bit of that action absolutely And the

29:05

cover our of of that album as amazing

29:07

as lot of Conrad's and purposing a bit

29:09

kind of i don't know you can really

29:11

see his face is quite mysterious and the

29:13

track is says i hug you and few

29:15

things i can say it's is just yeah

29:17

if you're in a panic since you fearing

29:19

the pan am a beach in ninety two

29:21

for listening to distract I might. Have been

29:23

and have you kept hearing in hand that's

29:25

that's divides us the bible When a project

29:28

here could beat such thoughts and it's good

29:30

because that is taking us does nudging us

29:32

even be on spring into into early summer

29:34

which I like throwing it forwards. look. We've.

29:37

Reached the end of our to part

29:39

ten tracks springtime countdown. Who to we

29:41

find at the top of the Sicily

29:43

blooming tree? You know what you mentioned

29:45

to me the you like the seventies

29:47

the word is the vet A brand

29:49

new track just came out. But.

29:52

He sees their seventies in awaits

29:54

but also does does bends. quite

29:56

interesting their from France papoose but

29:58

they speaking this amazing. You wouldn't

30:00

even know that they they were friends

30:02

or and again they are touring. Moyes

30:04

benefit a who identify as it's spear

30:06

touring around the earth at the moment.

30:08

So there's some touches of and little

30:10

bit of Boston of a little bit

30:12

of seventies rock from the Us. So

30:14

lot of amazing instances as well. I

30:16

want to hear your take on that.

30:19

it's oppose It hurts me. Like

30:43

it for this kind of many little bit of

30:45

Debbie Harry vibes going in. There is kind of

30:47

thing I see where you're getting at. Absolutely. I

30:49

mean who doesn't love that? be having? I'd. Say.

30:53

Good selection. I can scarcely smitty. It's

30:55

just a lot of familiarity. We have

30:57

not been in the global count on

30:59

chess. Maybe because I had a bit

31:01

of a breather? Of loss of

31:04

like sceptical faculties but I think a really

31:06

nice mix. I'm delighted to going to hair

31:08

number of the tracks from this week and

31:10

last week through the playlist. If it was

31:13

a to tune into Mcgrady Alive and Him

31:15

or of Death music and is a little

31:17

gems in there that many couldn't say into

31:19

these people should be listening out for this

31:22

plan to jabs their single we we being

31:24

adding lot of Japanese music. I think that's

31:26

even the J pop market A I think

31:28

people should find out a little be more

31:31

about that is not just keep Also seems.

31:33

To look at Japan does lot of new

31:35

artists and of course some old city pop

31:37

classics as I'll check it out. Paypal fed

31:39

and and are always a delight. Thanks for

31:42

bringing this up to speed with a two

31:44

week special of it. I will help. That

31:47

was Monocles musical curator front and august

31:49

of in conversation with Tom Edwards and

31:51

finally on today's so we had to

31:54

Milan's design fair sit on it then

31:56

more below where monocles your of editor

31:58

at large and stuff. Come.

32:00

Up with Marius making the director of

32:02

product design at Snow had a. He.

32:05

Started by asking about the kind of

32:07

products the award winning Norwegian architecture practice

32:10

where showcasing at this year's fair. This

32:13

week is quite special, a

32:15

severe. For

32:17

us in our product design

32:19

for hims. This year we're

32:21

launching. Three

32:24

Special for. This was his

32:26

first collaboration with for Not

32:28

Very Own and with Them

32:31

Handmade circle to tell and

32:33

sweetie objects to be played

32:36

when. We have also expanded

32:38

our collection in collaboration with

32:41

load of now increasingly. Them

32:43

own thoughts on a surplus

32:45

and also now with standing

32:47

lights and we have a

32:49

very special project of hours

32:51

or first collaboration with and

32:54

this Italian and this system

32:56

is the his face on

32:58

the breeze of zones and

33:00

what comfort is now. So

33:03

engine the whole ecosystems and understanding

33:05

that so that is from production

33:08

to me and of mice And

33:10

each module has been developed. With

33:13

an injection molded core that

33:15

functions almost all of that

33:18

like a leg of system.

33:20

So with these unique lego

33:22

pieces on some create the

33:24

and infirm and modular configure

33:26

it or and play with

33:29

assistance and will play with

33:31

comfort. He's out sex with

33:33

time spaces that plan different

33:35

situations. You can make it

33:38

smaller, bigger and but also

33:40

each material is it had.

33:42

Small and can be accessed was a

33:44

bus. The best thing for you is

33:47

it coming to see what other designers

33:49

the up t because I know some

33:51

designers said it. I might say that

33:53

in a some some some designers we

33:56

sort of totally like to afraid almost

33:58

in a vacuum than. I'd rather

34:00

get inspiration from somewhere else with us

34:02

what they say any much as and

34:05

then you know seeing of the designers

34:07

and it's more maybe conversations. The debate

34:09

being a paper on the same page

34:11

was the sort of was the best

34:14

thing fi were from the sweetly take

34:16

who I am a nigger how am

34:18

I think actually they're being shared together

34:20

with my team. Together

34:23

with their the rest is known for, we've

34:25

been up to twenty five people. Are

34:28

hairless far. As I think

34:30

a lot of people young and

34:32

being able to to be together

34:34

in this kind of slightly different

34:36

setting is really really warding obviously.

34:39

also meeting old friend, new friends

34:41

and and being face to face

34:43

or we always talk about that

34:45

when when people me things happen

34:48

and and that this week is

34:50

is really a testament to that

34:52

and when it comes to the

34:54

product design Did did these often

34:56

going to start his own projects.

34:59

How does that work? Was the

35:01

relationship? Like with the architectural side,

35:03

what we aim to do is

35:06

really to leverage the experience and

35:08

context of sniper being able to

35:10

utilize all that expertise and we

35:12

have been are different studios. Now

35:15

by utilizing that we can make

35:17

sure that we are fairly certain

35:19

that the front of that we

35:22

do will have a meeting, will

35:24

have a future and taking in

35:26

that bigger picture in in to.

35:29

The thinking when we're developing these

35:31

products that will happen in fact

35:33

a guy so that they can

35:35

about ambitions and of a senile

35:37

it sounds from me no more.

35:39

You mean the my idea that

35:41

you gonna projects on the gods

35:43

under or though you took him

35:45

out dig in the city centre

35:47

and being and sunny Milan you

35:49

know I presume. There's also a

35:52

putting a business how on as

35:54

well ah and going around that

35:56

that that's right by and potentially

35:58

finding new. On to out with this. The

36:00

future obviously it's is

36:02

finding finding people. I

36:04

would say people that

36:07

we feel we we.

36:10

Have a connection with that we

36:12

share and vision single and that

36:14

we feel that we can do

36:16

something new and exciting for us.

36:18

It's it's important that we have

36:20

a similar ambition as they all

36:22

have sniper which is making the

36:24

world little bit better funded by

36:27

project them to do that you

36:29

can through it and I'm asking

36:31

you can do it alone You

36:33

have to have really good collaborators

36:35

then dreamers that you're working with

36:37

intuit by making know our best

36:39

to have as that feed into

36:41

your product. Design of the see

36:43

that big togo the time of

36:45

us circular economy, sustainability and ownership

36:47

buses ah whether you can borrow

36:49

like these sorts of big idea

36:51

of of invariably get disgust at

36:53

places like Milan Design. Wait how

36:55

does not fit into what you're

36:58

doing? Are you striving to make.

37:00

The about better is it about

37:02

using different products different materials that

37:04

a more sustainable a me we

37:07

are in I'm the luckiest situation

37:09

that we get to work on

37:11

a high variety of types of

37:14

the front now and for have.

37:17

Any project that with you

37:19

have the ambition of making

37:21

the change and and has

37:24

than it has an opportunity

37:26

to make an impact. Now

37:28

sometimes that may mean small

37:30

impact but an impact either

37:32

way or it may mean

37:34

and axles ne really. It's

37:38

hard to judge or know exactly what

37:40

that will be in the beginning of

37:42

Footer, but by forcing ourself and are

37:44

collaborator we hope that we can reach

37:46

more meaningful projects. That have the

37:49

future and month now, one

37:51

project that is a good

37:53

example of this is or

37:55

Fleet's papers, which is a

37:58

very weird subject. Product

38:00

Design Studio to do if

38:02

you weren't in the complex.

38:04

a sniper now suddenly working

38:06

the landscape architects and architects

38:09

understanding the urban environment and

38:11

the new when working with

38:13

our partner. there are such

38:15

to developed than new solutions

38:17

that are functional in two

38:19

days zones and smartest challenge

38:21

with flash flooding. We were

38:23

able to build basically three

38:25

papers or thing with an

38:27

industry that hasn't been doing

38:29

a lot. Of innovation and

38:31

many many years and introduce

38:33

something that should be a

38:35

tool that their dad actually

38:37

fit. Create an impact Now

38:39

since since this was launched

38:41

we were of a bit

38:43

uncertain how meaningful will this

38:45

be. But once

38:47

we launched this earn it

38:50

has game incredible interest and

38:52

and and the this fairly

38:55

small Norwegian company office now

38:57

we're helping them with. Their

39:00

with discovering global licensing deals

39:02

and getting it out there

39:05

are getting a group or

39:07

locally manufactured and suddenly this

39:09

thing that on it's own

39:11

a concrete paper can be

39:14

an incredibly sustainable, regenerates of

39:16

business model that actually has

39:18

an impact on them. unless.

39:21

I was Monaco's and stalker and conversation with

39:23

Snow Heather's Marius meeting on that's all the

39:26

time he out for the citizens of the

39:28

briefing he was produced by page run on

39:30

have a researcher was George Ruskin and are

39:32

a senior manager was Times and Howard the

39:34

briefing his back tomorrow At the same time

39:36

I'm Chris Tarmac goodbye. He keeps me, He.