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Welcome to the Bubble Lounge for a very special

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250th episode . I'm

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Steve Noviello . Today we are turning the

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tables . So , martha and Nellie , welcome

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to your own show . Am I

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the first guest host ? Yes , yes

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, to turn around . Look at that . All right

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, so it's a big day indeed . So , first up

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, let me just get this out of the way . Thank

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you for having me . Second , thank you for

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doing what you do . I am a fellow Park City's

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resident and I am a big

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fan of the podcast . I think it's so neat

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250 episodes in . So

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take our listeners back to the beginning . Whose

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idea was this ?

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Okay , I have to tell the story , but it was Martha's

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idea . So we live on the same street and

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Martha and Sean walked up to my driveway

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and said hey , we had a question for you

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. You know you've been in this industry for a long time

1:10

. Would you be interested in doing a podcast with us

1:12

about our neighborhood ? And

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and I thought it was a great idea . So

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it was Martha's idea and she'd always wanted

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to do this . She studied journalism in college

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and this was her her thing thing

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and I was happy to jump in .

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The cool thing about it , I think that people generally

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have ideas and think , okay , how can we make

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this big ? And what I think has been the secret

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sauce for you guys , at least from a listener perspective

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, is how can we keep this small ? It's

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so intimate , I mean , it's like a micro

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podcast about a very specific

1:40

place and a very specific audience

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, and I think that's why it works so well , do you ?

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I absolutely do . I mean , if you got any

1:46

bigger or expanded out , it just

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wouldn't be as intimate as it is . And

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I mean this community is so unique and

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special , like what you're saying , and it's very tight

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knit and everyone knows each other and

1:57

it just works because we're constantly

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shining a light on other neighbors

2:02

.

2:02

For sure , and there's a different perspective . I always

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said this in the beginning , when we started , which is , I

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feel like we came to this neighborhood differently . Like Martha

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always wanted to live here , I had never heard of this neighborhood

2:11

. I moved from Los Angeles and I didn't

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want to move to Texas , and then I immediately loved

2:16

it . So we come from different points

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of view and I think that helps as well .

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So one of the things that I have to say . So , listen

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, I've been in Texas , for in Dallas specifically

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, for about 21 years now . Never

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in a million years did I think that this would be what

2:29

I'm a New Yorker I thought for sure I would

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go back up to the northeast , and there's

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a lot of folklore that goes with living

2:36

in the Park Cities . I certainly never pictured

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myself as a Park Cities resident

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, but one of the things that I think that you guys do so

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well is you kind of pull back the curtain

2:45

to the very essence of why the

2:47

Park City's works so well and why

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people love it . I mean , where else can you

2:51

go to see local coverage of

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a middle school play ?

2:55

Right , well , I just think

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one of my big reasons for

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doing the podcast is I wanted to try to help change

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people's perception is because there's

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a perception out there that everyone that lives here is

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a rich douchebag . No

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, you guys are rich , we

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are rich douchebags , and that's why we started this , and

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that absolutely is not true . I feel

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like there's more good people that are out

3:19

there doing really great things . They're giving their

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time , and maybe they are rich

3:23

. They're giving their money to do better with it

3:25

, though , and I feel like when something

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really happens in this community , we all

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come together , like , for example , a

3:32

family that just lost their little girl

3:34

in the car accident . The outpouring

3:37

of love and support and the pink ribbons

3:39

all over the neighborhood and

3:41

the memorial service were just

3:43

so touching to see everyone

3:46

to come together like that .

3:47

Yeah , it really is a truly special

3:49

place . The one thing that I also find very interesting

3:52

and maybe this

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is just my overall impression , but your

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podcast focuses on the same thing

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that I think all the residents focus on , and that's

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generally the kids who live in this neighborhood

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. I mean , you're at the football games , you're at the school plays

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, you're at the Highland Bell stuff . I

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mean , was that intentional when you first went into this

4:09

? To think , okay , I mean , we in the TV

4:11

business say listen , you want people to watch , put their

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kids on TV .

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They'll tune in right .

4:16

Was that intentional for you ?

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guys ? Yes , absolutely . I

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mean , after we did , you know , a certain amount of episodes , it became clear that the children is what people

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love to hear about . Parents love to see them on our Instagram . The kids love to see each other

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and it was definitely

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a huge part of just

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kind of changing a little bit and focusing more

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on the kids .

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Well , and I think a niche audience is important when

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it comes to a podcast , and it very much is a

4:41

niche , and not only is it about the kids

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, but it's also about what their parents do local

4:46

businesses , the businesses that these kids

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go to , and you know

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where they spend their money , where they spend their time

4:52

.

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Well , and I think that at the end of the day , I know for us

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I mean my husband and I would never have considered

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living in the Park Cities if we didn't have kids

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. I mean , we live here because of our

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children and because of the excellent public schools

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, and that's something that we wanted to be a part

5:05

of . And I'll tell you in the four

5:07

or five years that we've been here now , particularly now

5:09

that we're involved in the public schools

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, kind of that folklore of what these

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people would be like is totally

5:16

gone . I mean , it's so impressive to me

5:18

to see that excellence is measured

5:20

in how involved you are in your kids'

5:22

life , how involved you are in volunteering at the

5:24

local school , how involved you are in making the

5:26

community a better place for everybody

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to live . And you guys have really become , I mean

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, 250 episodes in a very vital

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part of that . What void

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do you think you've filled successfully ?

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Well , I think we said it . I think it is about highlighting

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things that matter to the people in the neighborhood

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. Right , I mean , it really is . And

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you grew up in New York City . I don't know if you grew up in a bubble

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like I did but I grew up in a bubble on the Upper

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East Side and I'm proud

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of growing up in a bubble and I loved living in that bubble because

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I felt like I was in this big city which we are here in

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Dallas as well . But I also was

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protected by my little neighborhood and

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felt like I really belonged and I was a part of a community

6:03

and that community is so strong here .

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The thing that I also enjoy about the podcast , I have to say

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, is that it I mean every

6:10

now and again , but generally the stuff that you're

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covering is stuff that is accessible

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to everybody . It's not like oh

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, here we are at Hermes today .

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I'm buying a new Birkin bag . See , that goes

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back to what I was saying . That's

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how people think the women in this neighborhood spend their time , but that is not true

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at all . I have a couple of friends who are stylists at Halliburton Village

6:31

.

6:31

It does happen . It does happen . It does exist , you

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have to buy a bunch of stuff , to even be allowed

6:36

to buy the Birkin but yes , yeah

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no , it's great because it's like , hey , go to this restaurant

6:41

, here's this family who opened

6:43

up a business , or here's you know something terrible

6:45

that happened , or something wonderful that happened .

6:48

Well , and you know what's interesting is , we went through

6:50

COVID on this podcast and I

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actually think that that was beneficial

6:54

in a lot of ways , because people were home and they were listening

6:56

and we were addressing those issues

6:58

and everything that went along with that .

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Yeah , it's really . It was a kind

7:02

of vital time to be connected . We had the

7:04

same thing in my business where it was like , listen , we just need to

7:06

get down to like brass tacks here

7:08

and help people function day

7:11

to day because it was such an unprecedented

7:13

time . Was that a particularly challenging

7:15

for you guys ? I know for us it was more like gosh

7:17

.

7:17

Now there's an abundance of things

7:19

for us to talk about , even though it was kind of terrible , Well

7:22

, it was , like you said , a very interesting

7:24

time and I had the bright idea because I

7:26

felt like you know , we're not doing anything else , we

7:28

can do it three times a week . Well , nellie's still

7:30

doing her thing long distance and she's got

7:32

plenty of things filling her time so we

7:35

cut that down eventually . But

7:38

yeah , we were trying to kind of make

7:40

light of a serious situation

7:42

and provide some laughs and some humor

7:44

about it . Tell people where to buy their toilet paper .

7:47

We did . We did , we

7:49

said go to the Costco business store .

7:52

And not only was it was COVID , it

7:54

was a very contentious school board election

7:56

season . And you guys were

7:58

in the thick of it .

7:59

I mean , you hosted , I was like

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look at these two getting political on everybody

8:03

You're like let's host the candidates

8:05

.

8:06

But again , what a great service to people who

8:08

live in this neighborhood Because , quite frankly , the people in Preston

8:10

Hollow don't care who's on our school board .

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right , that is so true , yeah , we

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try to stay away from politics as a whole

8:16

. We'll make an exception for the school board elections

8:19

and I think it just a lot

8:21

of people are , especially in the most recent

8:23

years it's gotten pretty heated . They're

8:25

kind of scared to have those forums in person . So

8:28

we did them on Zoom . So nobody's all

8:30

together , so there's not that friction

8:32

, but we still you still get to see the candidates

8:34

face and hear their reactions to the questions , but

8:37

next week we're having Trump and Biden on .

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So I was going to say I'm on

8:41

chatter , there's friction . We don't all have to be in the

8:43

same room .

8:44

There always is during an election year it gets

8:46

kind of ugly . You do get to see the darker

8:48

side to the person . Yeah for sure .

8:50

Okay , so 250 episodes ago it

8:52

began , which

8:54

is kind of crazy to think that you've

8:56

amassed so many . We

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say at our podcast that we do it's like okay . Once

9:01

you get on this treadmill , you can't stop .

9:10

I mean it's like okay once you get on this treadmill , you can't stop

9:12

. I mean , it's like over and over and , over and over again . So for the content that you have , where

9:14

do you mine for your ideas ? Just everywhere . We work with PR firms that love to have

9:16

their clients on . You just run into somebody at their grocery

9:19

store and they give you a lead People email

9:21

through the website , people DM on Instagram

9:23

, just anywhere

9:25

and everywhere . I am constantly looking

9:28

at the paper and on park city's chatter just

9:30

to see what people are , what's kind of the hot

9:32

topics , and go from there .

9:33

Well , and we're both media junkies , so we're always we're

9:36

always listening to what's going on and , you

9:38

know , have our finger on the pulse about

9:40

things and we also

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are very involved . So I mean , mean , you'll

9:45

catch Martha out at a restaurant in Snyder Plaza

9:47

or me going to an event , etc

9:49

. Like we really like to be a part of the community and

9:51

we like to be out and about , don't you think ?

9:53

Oh , absolutely . Just yesterday

9:55

I was waiting in line to upgrade my football tickets

9:57

and I met these two very nice dads and they

10:00

had heard of the podcast and they

10:02

were very complimentary and it just it's fun

10:04

to be out and about and see people

10:06

and just get their feedback .

10:07

I have still not made it to a Friday

10:10

night .

10:10

I know you told me that I've got to go Like I mean

10:12

, that's just not something that I grew up with .

10:13

We just didn't have that where I'm from .

10:15

Right .

10:16

And , like I , I see frankly through the

10:18

video on your Instagram page , um

10:20

of the it's like living in a movie

10:22

. I mean the bells are there and the

10:24

spirit squad or whatever they're called , the Scotsman

10:27

I mean , and that's . I think that that's one

10:29

of the kind of things that really works so well for

10:31

you guys is that you're not sitting in a room talking

10:33

about the neighborhood . You're bringing

10:35

us to the places , You're attending

10:37

the school plays , You're attending the Friday night , you

10:39

know you're attending the tree lighting , You're attending the

10:41

fishing Derby or whatever . Whatever the case , you

10:44

know , maybe that's that's

10:46

a lot of running around .

10:47

Well , I have my . My sisters always tease me . They're like if you

10:49

say the word Snyder Plaza five

10:53

times in a sentence , I can't

10:55

listen to it . They should be . I

10:58

hear they have new parking coming or something .

11:00

Something's going on over there . There's all kinds of new stuff going on . The construction

11:02

started this week and people are in an uproar

11:04

already . It's going to be a very long , 18 months .

11:06

What's the tea ? Why ? Because it's so disruptive

11:08

.

11:09

Well , yes , because they're

11:11

going to have to reroute and drive in a different way

11:13

. I think that Tom Thumb is going to only have

11:15

one entrance coming in and coming out .

11:18

And there were parking issues already . We

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don't like change in this neighborhood .

11:29

That's true , and there were parking issues to begin with , so now forget about it .

11:31

Like there's , you know , a do not cross sign already up near Foxtrot market where it was what

11:33

has surprised you the most about doing the show . Just , it took probably about

11:35

two years before anybody would say

11:37

anything in person . It was kind of weird

11:40

, like if we didn't have reports that showed

11:42

us that people were listening , I would have given up really

11:44

early on . But as it's evolved

11:47

, people have gotten more comfortable with podcasts

11:49

. A lot of people didn't even know what a podcast was when

11:51

we started , and I love

11:53

it when they tell us we tried

11:55

a restaurant or we did this event or did whatever

11:57

you guys were talking about and we loved it Like

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we love hearing that kind of feedback .

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Well , what surprised me the most are the guests that we have . We love

12:04

hearing that kind of feedback . Well , and what surprised me the most are the guests

12:06

that we have . I feel like one of the best parts of our podcast is

12:08

we highlight the other people , not

12:11

ourselves , and

12:13

I think that's what it's about , right ? And it surprised me how interesting , dynamic

12:16

and exciting everybody

12:18

is in the neighborhood . There's so many great stories to

12:20

be told and to hear .

12:22

Yeah , I think that everybody definitely has a story

12:24

to tell , stories to be told and to hear . Yeah , I think that everybody

12:26

definitely has a story to tell . I mean , if I'm ever , you know , out at a story covering

12:28

you know whatever , and the person I'm interviewing will say to me hey

12:30

, do you want to see my garage ? It's like one of two things is

12:32

about to happen . You're about to , like , show me that you've got

12:35

the paper boy on a slow boil on a stove

12:37

, or

12:45

you , like , build Victorian birdhouses out of matchsticks . Luckily

12:48

, it's generally the second of those two things . I haven't encountered the first one yet , but you're exactly right . And I think that people love talking

12:50

about themselves and they love sharing their story , and to be

12:52

the person that facilitates allowing

12:54

them to do that is a really awesome responsibility

12:56

.

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Well , we knew we had made it when the Chicago sisters

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moved to town and

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they learned everything about the neighborhood . They

13:03

were like our crazy fans . Right , they were

13:05

awesome .

13:06

There's these two sisters from Chicago that

13:08

, during COVID , decided they wanted to move and

13:10

they found our podcast just by Googling

13:13

Highland Park Podcast and

13:15

because of listening to it they

13:17

decided to come here . They put their kids into Shelton

13:20

which is where Nellie's kids went , or her

13:22

son went , rather and they were

13:24

on the show and they were just like our biggest

13:26

fans and the thought that

13:28

because of our podcast , we actually

13:30

were the reason people moved here

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is pretty cool .

13:33

Well , you rerouted the trajectory of their

13:35

life essentially right .

13:37

I mean it's like hey , this is where they go .

13:39

So I'm assuming you got 25% from the

13:41

real estate commission , from them buying a house , absolutely

13:44

.

13:44

I that was should be a sponsor as well . Oh my gosh , You're

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totally right about that we're going to get right on that , Steve

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.

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I'm telling you , I'm telling you .

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So I did want to ask you something

13:54

. From earlier in the show you said that you had never even

13:56

considered moving to Highland Park , or I

13:58

never heard of it . What moved the needle for you ?

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My , my husband's job . My husband has a

14:02

company that's based out of Dallas and we

14:05

tried commuting for a little while and

14:07

then I said I'd give him two years here . I said

14:09

I'll do my time for two years and then

14:12

my son and I moved back to LA and I realized

14:14

I missed it and

14:17

I missed my husband too , because he was flying in on weekends and it was just

14:19

too crazy to try to maintain . And a friend of ours

14:21

had a party , a going away party for us , and

14:23

she put cows in the front yard and said until

14:25

the cows come home , and I just remember

14:27

that vision in my head and being like I really miss the neighborhood

14:30

. And again , I grew up in a bubble , so I

14:33

enjoy being in a bubble because I know

14:35

living here we have access to everything that a big

14:37

city offers , but we also have that community

14:39

.

14:39

Yeah , for sure , you know . For us we

14:42

were kind of looking and we didn't know anything about zones

14:44

or elementary schools . We just needed to find a house

14:46

we could afford , where the street signs were blue

14:49

or said UP and we knew that we

14:51

were in the right place and we were driving through and

14:53

there were these kids . I think it was up by Gore Park

14:55

, maybe like walking on a Saturday morning

14:57

, like with their fishing poles and like a bucket and

14:59

I was like , it was like that movie , Funny

15:01

Farm .

15:06

I don't know if you've ever seen it where they're like release the deer .

15:07

I was like you have got to be kidding me that these

15:09

kids are going fishing on a Saturday morning

15:12

. It's seared into my memory

15:14

.

15:14

And not only that , I don't

15:16

know what the term is . They stuff the

15:18

pond with fish for the kids . Yes , they stock the pond , thank you , they stuff it

15:20

.

15:20

They just stuff it , which is stock , thank you , they stuff it , they

15:22

just stuff it and , frankly , even at a more basic

15:24

level , that it's a neighborhood in which children

15:27

can still walk on their own on a Saturday

15:29

morning to go do things like go fishing

15:31

.

15:31

That's not something everybody gets to do . It is not or ride

15:33

their bikes , because we were living in the Hollywood Hills and

15:43

you cannot ride a bike gang riding around all

15:45

the time . It was really fun .

15:47

I see that . I see that a lot , Of course . I

15:49

also see a lot of people complaining about the now motorized

15:51

bike gangs which I'm sure either will

15:53

be or has been a topic on your podcast . What

15:56

about for you ? And I know that you

15:58

had the experience . You grew up here , right , I

16:00

grew up in Fort Worth .

16:05

So in Fort Worth I'll always remember that my dad had this extremely tight knit community

16:07

. He played golf at Colonial Country Club , he

16:09

was very active in the community and

16:11

he just had this huge array

16:14

of friends that he was always doing things with

16:16

and I just always admired the

16:18

tightness of his friend group that he had

16:20

. And so I came all the

16:22

way from Preston Hollow . I lived there for many

16:24

years and I would drive through here and I

16:26

would see just what you're describing these cute

16:28

little families riding their bikes

16:30

up to Snyder Plaza and just being

16:33

out and about all the time , and I thought when

16:35

I have kids , that's definitely where I want

16:37

to be . I want some of that .

16:39

That's the experience . Yeah , I know . For us it's like it's

16:41

so nice to be somewhere where we know we're settled

16:43

. We are here through high school

16:45

minimum and it's just

16:47

nice to get to invest

16:49

in that .

16:51

Well , and when you say minimum , it's interesting because I have

16:53

the only child . We both have freshmen in college and

16:55

that's all I have . So I'm an empty nester . Now we

16:57

are empty nesters and we're not leaving .

16:59

Yeah , my husband thinks we're leaving after

17:01

our youngest graduate from high school but

17:03

then I'll kick in with the don't you want them to come home

17:05

?

17:05

to their family . That's exactly what it is Sleep in

17:07

their room . You've got a long ways to go , too

17:10

, thank God .

17:11

I'm in no rush , Okay . So , looking back over

17:13

250 episodes , are there any that

17:16

kind of stand out as particularly

17:18

crazy or particularly difficult to

17:20

cover ? Or just so much what

17:23

? What annual traditions that you guys cover

17:25

?

17:26

My favorite one . I always say this

17:28

is when we interviewed Tracy Walder

17:30

, who is a mom in the neighborhood that

17:33

was a former FBI and CIA

17:35

agent . I mean just the

17:37

thought of talking to a mom and she

17:39

looks like all of us , you know . She looks like

17:41

you're a park city's mom and that has

17:43

this background . Now she can't tell you

17:45

all the information . We'd love to

17:47

know more , but I was just hanging

17:50

on every word she had . It was just a very fascinating

17:52

experience to talk to her . That's interesting .

17:54

Well , and I like covering events . I think it's really fun

17:56

to cover events and see all of our neighbors out

17:59

and talk to them and interview them on

18:01

the red carpet . I think that's really fun .

18:03

Yeah , that has to be one of my favorite parts about

18:05

living here , and again , now that we're in

18:07

the schools , it gets

18:09

punctuated even more so . Hey

18:14

, there's a tree lighting , but first there's a block party . I mean , everybody is so generous

18:16

with their time and their homes

18:18

and kind of just having this shared

18:20

experience that again , I think the

18:22

two of you really add a whole lot

18:25

of quality to who

18:27

would you love to have that you haven't had yet

18:29

? George Bush .

18:30

I think so too , right , yes

18:33

, yes , because we used to do the

18:35

podcast in Sean's previous office

18:37

, which was where his office was , and they

18:39

were so friendly , so we think they'd be a good

18:41

guest , him and Laura . I think so too .

18:43

Have you had Laura on ?

18:44

No , do you have any connections .

18:46

Well , so am I .

18:47

I was a docent at the ABPA house

18:49

thing .

18:49

Oh great , oh cool .

18:51

Now I will say I was also the only dad , so everyone thought I

18:53

was the designer of the house .

18:55

So you just pretended I was the only male volunteer .

18:58

But it was the president this year of the PTA . It was her mom's

19:00

house .

19:08

And .

19:08

There she was and I was like I mean , talk about like a Park City's moment , right ? Yes , first it was

19:10

like the temperature of the room kind of shifted and the energy shifted

19:12

, and then the men in dark suits came in .

19:15

You're like what ?

19:16

is going on here .

19:16

And then there was Laura .

19:17

So I feel like she would be a great guest I think she would be

19:19

a great guest .

19:20

Yes , I agree , both of those Scotty

19:22

Shuffler would be really amazing .

19:24

I mean he is on fire . I'm surprised that he hasn't

19:26

been here . You certainly covered him

19:28

when he was making his way out of here .

19:30

Yes , yes , we would love to have him

19:32

on . I don't know if I have a connection

19:35

that could get to him , and most

19:37

of those celebrity types kind of ignore the

19:39

.

19:39

DMs For sure . Yeah , you can go the Royal Oaks

19:42

route .

19:44

Yeah , I'm going to get murdered here

19:46

for not knowing this but who's the

19:48

football player that graduated from Highland

19:50

Park ? He wasn't even a quarterback on the

19:52

Super Bowl team recently .

19:53

Matthew Stafford Stafford . Yes , I

19:55

knew it was another S last name . I was doing

19:58

videos for the Highland Bells that

20:00

year that he retired his jersey

20:02

and

20:06

so I was like right there by him and I got a really good video of him walking by . But I asked

20:08

too late if I could interview him and they said no , okay .

20:10

So let me ask you this , speaking of kind of seeing people

20:12

out in their natural habitat and listen , we're all

20:14

people but do

20:16

you get nervous , like where ? You're like , oh , I

20:19

want to talk to you , but I'm a little afraid to talk to you . And

20:21

then you start thinking , well , I just have a podcast . It's not

20:23

like it's know , whatever . I do

20:25

do you ? Yes , I do . Who ? Can you give me an example

20:27

of anybody that happened with ?

20:29

Caitlyn Jenner , who

20:32

is not a . Park City

20:34

person . I was gonna say where did you see her ? At

20:36

a charity event ? Nellie had

20:38

been asked to cover it and

20:40

she wasn't able to go , so she turned it over to

20:42

me and they gave me full access

20:44

to everybody that was there , and

20:47

Caitlyn was presenting a ward that night

20:49

and so , yeah

20:51

, I was a nervous wreck , like I was about to

20:53

cry . I was so nervous to go up

20:55

and talk .

20:55

Yeah , Well , and also I feel like Caitlyn

20:58

Jenner has this like aura about

21:00

her that like I mean , it's like looking into

21:02

the sun , right , and I like in , like , just you're

21:04

like you know like it's you know like

21:06

she's one of these people that is very , you know , recognizable

21:09

and probably , in your mind , recognizable

21:12

in a totally different format as well

21:14

, based on how old we all are , right , yes

21:16

. So I'm sure that that also adds to the oh

21:18

my God , did Steve just call us old ? I

21:21

said how old we all are .

21:23

It's not 250,000 podcasts

21:26

.

21:27

He tried to include himself in that

21:29

? No it

21:31

was strange because I was

21:33

at a conference in California many

21:36

years ago and she

21:38

was there as Bruce Jenner , so I've seen

21:40

both sides of the coin , and

21:43

so it was interesting .

21:43

Okay , what about you ? No , just because I've

21:46

been doing this for 35 years .

21:47

Your experience- is different right .

21:50

I just enjoy it . I think you

21:52

get used to rejection in our business .

21:53

Yeah , for sure .

21:55

If I ask somebody and they said no , I'd be like okay .

22:00

What would you ask President Bush ? What do you want

22:02

to know ?

22:03

I think Laura's the conduit

22:05

right Because she's a mom

22:07

here's what I would ask why

22:09

don't you live in park cities ?

22:11

Why do you live over there in Preston Hall ? Do

22:13

you think it was a security thing ? I mean , I guess , unless

22:15

you're maybe on .

22:16

Fairfax . But even then , even

22:18

the cul-de-sac side backs up to the park

22:21

and you'd have to close that side off too , and I

22:23

think it's more of a like there's not a street we

22:25

could put you on without , totally because

22:27

they're in a cul-de-sac in Preston .

22:28

Hall right , it's gated now right , so maybe

22:31

that's why Is it a pretty big estate ? I don't even know where

22:33

you live .

22:33

Yes , because my friends live right behind them .

22:35

Okay , and .

22:36

I have a funny story about George Bush , Like he walks his

22:38

dog and my friend Greg their

22:41

dogs are friends always

22:49

complaining .

22:49

He gets really annoyed , that um w is always like

22:51

hey , my dog wants to play with your dog and he's like I'm busy , george

22:53

, not today , george , that's funny , my husband

22:55

just saw him recently speaking at some

22:58

conference or whatever , and he was like george

23:00

bush is the funniest yeah

23:02

, he's so he is humble

23:04

and a little self-deprecating , which I guess

23:06

after the fact is much easier to do .

23:09

But I never hear anything but great things about

23:11

him . Ever Like a friendly neighborhood

23:13

guy .

23:14

Yeah , like walking his dog , yes , being like

23:16

, hey , I want to hang out with you . As opposed to you would

23:18

think that he'd be the kind who's like well , you can come to me , I'm

23:20

George W Bush .

23:21

I think Martha should stand outside with her dogs and

23:24

like get the dogs to be friends with the dog

23:26

Was the show around during the presidential

23:28

library opening , or does that predate you ?

23:30

Predates yeah , Definitely predates . That would have

23:32

been a good time . That would have been really good .

23:34

Surely there's an anniversary coming up we can call the PR people .

23:36

That's a good idea . Yeah , we need to make that

23:38

happen . I mean , he's right here , he's

23:40

right here .

23:42

Okay For people . Let's imagine

23:44

that people are listening kind of for the first time here . What's

23:47

the one thing that you want them to know about

23:49

this particular podcast and why they should

23:51

listen ?

23:55

Because there is a lot of competition . Well , I think the thing that

23:57

I want people to know is that it's really where you get your information about kids , local

24:00

businesses , restaurants , happenings in the neighborhood

24:02

, disasters

24:05

, you know when there's a tornado or when

24:07

there's COVID , et cetera . I think

24:09

we provide a lot of really local

24:11

news that people want to hear about . Like

24:13

I know , when I travel for work and I'm shooting

24:15

a movie or something , I always go straight to local

24:18

news . And I feel like this is a form of local

24:20

news .

24:20

Yeah for sure , yeah for sure . But

24:22

what I think is really cool is we're

24:24

able to react quickly if something

24:27

is going on . We

24:29

don't have print deadlines that hold us back . You know

24:31

magazines have a two month delay

24:33

typically before you see the news show

24:35

up in the magazines . And I mean all

24:37

avenues are great and you need to hear

24:39

the information multiple times so

24:41

you remember it . But I think it's

24:44

pretty neat that we're able to react quickly

24:46

.

24:46

Well , because listen , at the end of

24:48

the day , these days no

24:50

longer do people need , you know , the

24:52

facility of a television studio

24:54

or the facility of a radio station . I mean you can grab your

24:56

mics or your iPhone and boom . I mean

24:58

it's really the speed of information is almost

25:01

, you know , instantaneous . And because you

25:03

live here and are part of the community

25:05

and kind of anticipate the things

25:07

that are going on , I think that really kind

25:09

of puts you miles ahead of anybody else who could do it .

25:11

I like you saying anticipate what's going on , because

25:13

that's a good word . Yeah , that's true .

25:14

No , trust me Again , I'm not blowing smoke

25:17

here . I've listened to your podcast and I will

25:19

often be like , okay , well , what can I do with my

25:21

kids this weekend ? Because I got nothing .

25:24

And here's what's going on . I just want to say this for my sisters you can go to Snyder

25:27

Plaza .

25:27

Well , I hear the parking's terrible

25:29

, so I'm not getting any better anytime soon

25:32

. Okay , so 250

25:34

in . Where are we in the

25:36

next 250 ? What do you think ? Oh goodness

25:38

.

25:39

Wow , there's just

25:41

always . I have a very long

25:44

ongoing list and then new stuff pops up

25:46

. It's

25:50

just so many different topics and people that we want to talk to .

25:52

out there , there's a never ending well of what

25:54

we can focus on .

25:55

Isn't that amazing ? I mean , the Park City is about like

25:57

two square miles , yes , but like there

26:00

is a never ending well of stories

26:02

you know in this neighborhood .

26:04

Well , there are , and you move to the neighborhood and you have young

26:06

kids , right . So then we're going through

26:08

that again with different people and their children

26:10

, just like we did with our freshmen in college

26:12

.

26:13

Yeah , there

26:15

are many layers to the onion . Let's say about

26:19

living in this neighborhood and again

26:21

I have to say that we had a lot of hesitation

26:23

about living in the park cities

26:25

. We heard , oh gosh , oh gosh , you know , and

26:27

it's been lovely . I mean , I'm a big defender

26:30

of the bubble and often Chuck , I think we

26:32

had helicopters flying over a couple

26:34

of weeks ago and some man chatter was like what's

26:36

? going on with the helicopters and I jokingly said

26:38

I think that there was a crack in

26:40

the bubble and they're up there fixing it .

26:43

That is funny , oh my gosh , hilarious

26:45

. We can't breathe . Exactly

26:47

, that's an outside air , come on

26:49

.

26:49

It's crazy .

26:51

Well , listen . I want to say thank you for

26:53

having me . I

26:55

think this has been super fun For folks again

26:57

who might be hearing you for the first time . Where can

27:00

they ? How often can they listen

27:02

? Where should they find you ? What platforms are you on ?

27:04

Yeah , we are on pretty much every platform

27:07

you can listen to a podcast on . You

27:09

can visit our website at BubbaLoungenet

27:12

. Instagram is a really great place

27:14

to go to at Bubba Lounge Podcast

27:16

. Lots of extra videos there that

27:18

you won't see on Facebook . There's just more

27:21

information and more content on Instagram

27:23

.

27:23

But , yeah , you can find us all

27:25

sorts of places and I have to say it's been lovely

27:27

having you interview us and I feel a little weird

27:29

not asking you more questions .

27:32

Well , I mean 251, . Maybe

27:35

I'm your guest .

27:35

That's true . I think we should , because I

27:38

actually Maybe me and George together .

27:39

Yes , I feel like we have a lot to talk

27:41

about .

27:42

Yes , well , yeah , if anyone has connections

27:44

out there for George Bush and Laura .

27:46

We would love to hear from you , hey

27:48

, and we love that you all tuned in today . And again , congratulations

27:51

on number 250 . Well done .

27:52

Thank you so much , thank you so much .