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All right. All right. All right. Carnivore soldier coming

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at you from Austin, Texas. Today we've got a very

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special guest, Dr. Kiltz, the

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carnivore doctor. He's a great

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guy. He's a fertility specialist,

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has a lot of great theories and

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background in carnivore, and

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he's a practicing carnivore as well. I'm going to bring

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him in, let him introduce himself. Hey,

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Dr. Kiltz, how's it going? Larry,

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fantastic. It's a beautiful day and I'm

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really appreciate the invitation and

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sharing the ideas of a carnivore

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lifestyle. Yeah it's definitely

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worth sharing because it's not going to get it from

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the media, so we better get it out the way we can. Your

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media, the doctors it

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really is a hidden gem

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that it's so important what you're doing

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to soldier on and share it with people

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to build the knowledge because you're

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not getting it from standard and there's such

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a push that meat causes all

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the problems. And that's our journey.

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Yeah. So why don't you just tell us about yourself real quick.

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And one thing I'm kind of interested in too, cause you are an

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MD and you're a fertility guy, right?

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What was uh, what, when did

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you become a carnivore and how did that happen?

1:07

Like it wasn't immediately. Right. So you've

1:09

been an MD for a while before he became carnivore. Well,

1:11

let's see. So born and raised in Los Angeles,

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I graduated high school

1:16

in 74. Undergrad

1:19

USC in 1980.

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I went to UC Davis Medical School

1:23

81 to 85. I

1:26

did a year of internal medicine in Los

1:28

Angeles. And then I switched

1:30

over to OBGYN and

1:32

I finished my residency in OBGYN

1:35

in Colorado. In

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1990 and then

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I practiced for a year at Kaiser and

1:43

in Sacramento. And someone called

1:45

me and asked if I wanted to do a fellowship in

1:47

reproductive medicine and it was, it

1:49

really wasn't something I was looking to do at the

1:51

time. And again, I'm a standard doctor.

1:53

I'm a surgeon. I take care of women,

1:56

obstetrics, gynecology. I

1:58

did a fellowship in reproductive

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medicine, IVF in

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Los Angeles, Harbor, UCLA

2:05

91 to 93,

2:08

and then I practiced in Northern California

2:10

a couple of years. Then I moved to upstate New York

2:12

standard. OBGYN,

2:15

fertility specialist, taking

2:17

care of all the standard things that everyone's

2:19

going through. It, in I started

2:21

my business, CNY Fertility, back

2:23

in 97. And

2:26

as I was building my business, I was

2:28

coming across a lot of frustration

2:31

as to why are people getting

2:33

sicker? Why was I getting

2:35

sicker? Because I developed arthritis, psoriasis,

2:38

bowel bleeding, kidney stones, migraines.

2:41

Depression. Yeah. And

2:43

about 25 years ago, I was doing a ton

2:46

of Atkins. I was a big exerciser

2:48

to be healthy, but I was breaking

2:50

down. The body was falling apart. And

2:54

I integrated acupuncture or meditation

2:56

and those sort of things in my practice. And

2:59

some of my patients were doing this diet called

3:01

paleo diet. So it

3:03

seemed like fertility. We integrated

3:06

Eastern medicine. Yeah. And

3:08

my patients getting pregnant on a nutritional

3:10

plan that I have never heard of. So

3:13

anytime I hear of something that helps

3:15

people conceive and deliver a baby naturally,

3:18

or with fertility treatments. I want to

3:20

learn about it and I'm a really

3:22

big, I read all the science.

3:24

I was really straight, you know, the science

3:27

knows the answers and diet doesn't matter

3:29

and all those things. And

3:32

then as I read about paleo,

3:34

I started doing it myself because

3:36

I said, there's something I got to understand about nutrition.

3:39

that I don't know. And

3:41

then I fell into keto

3:44

but around that same time, I read a book

3:46

by Thomas Seyfried, Cancer is a Metabolic

3:49

Disorder. There are a number

3:51

of other people that I was running into. Maria Emmerich

3:53

was teaching, learning about keto.

3:55

And then I saw some guy doing

3:58

carnivore about 13,

4:00

14 years ago, and the guy

4:02

was ripped. He didn't exercise

4:05

and he never felt better in his life. And

4:07

that's when I said, you know what? This looks interesting.

4:10

I love steak. I went right

4:12

for it. In one month, my bowel bleeding,

4:14

arthritis, kidney stones, and migraine,

4:17

gone. And

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from there, I dug deeper,

4:22

and I began to blog, talk about

4:24

it, write about it. I mostly focused

4:26

on keto rather than carnivore because

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carnivore is just like, you know, that's way over there,

4:32

but I was doing it and

4:34

and now to me, like nutrition

4:36

is number one carnivore

4:39

is the top of the line fatty meat

4:41

should be our mainstay. And

4:44

you minimize any plants and

4:47

keto is okay, but it's just

4:49

run of the mill nowadays to me. And

4:52

so I'm just thrilled to meet so many people

4:54

like yourself that are on this journey. We're

4:56

all learning together. Yeah.

4:58

And so that's kind of how I'm here meeting

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new people inspired by

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the stories. And I've seen so many

5:05

people on keto, mostly carnivore,

5:08

suddenly get pregnant, better

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age, better sperm, better sex,

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better. Everything's better on

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this lifestyle, this life plan. So

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here's the story. My, we had a hard time

5:20

getting pregnant when I was married. I'm not married

5:22

anymore, but my ex and I did. And

5:24

we found a fertility specialist and thankfully he was

5:27

a good guy. He was, he didn't try to get

5:29

us to do ovarian, you know, the big expensive

5:31

stuff. He said, well, let's, he

5:33

took her blood and he said, let's try what's the

5:35

drug they give the diabetics? Metformin.

5:38

Let's try metformin. It's cheap. 35 bucks.

5:41

Okay, we'll try metformin. Boom. She's pregnant

5:44

in four weeks. And it's like,

5:46

is it, are we doc, do we have a metformin

5:49

deficiency? Is that what's going on? We

5:52

have mostly glycation

5:56

and damage to the liver and

5:59

exactly what metformin does to help

6:01

people get pregnant. I don't

6:03

know that we know the answer other than it probably

6:06

helps lower glucose levels.

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And glucose levels. Glucose

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is an agent that's required

6:15

in our body. It's never

6:17

required to be eaten and

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it damages every cell of our body.

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And being infertile is

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just another one of the diseases that sugar

6:28

causes if you eat it

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too frequently or excessively. And

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sugar being plants, bread, everything,

6:35

everything we eat other than meats and eggs

6:37

and right. Sugar

6:39

is in everything, including meat and

6:41

eggs and fat, but,

6:44

but plant sugars, so plants

6:47

are carbon dioxide,

6:50

water, and sunlight that makes a long

6:52

chain carbon particle called sugar. So

6:54

lettuce, fruit, vegetables, seeds, nuts,

6:56

they all break down to sugar. And so it's

6:59

the combination. Of

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eating too frequently And

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too high of a plant based

7:06

diet and too low of a fat

7:08

diet. And when I say fat, we're talking

7:10

about animal fat, right? There's

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no such thing as plant fats, their plant

7:14

oils, and they're all industrially produced.

7:17

They're all processed foods

7:19

that we should likely minimally

7:22

or never consume. Yeah,

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I wish and I hope maybe I don't

7:26

know, maybe we can get a movement on this, but I wish and hope someone

7:28

would make a documentary like the

7:31

food industry documentaries we've seen that are really

7:33

revealing about vegetable

7:35

oils because I've worked in refineries

7:37

and I can tell you what, there's nothing green about any

7:39

kind of refinery. They're still cracking hydrocarbons,

7:42

carbons. They are messy, nasty.

7:45

They're terrible. And they

7:47

make just toxic, I don't care

7:49

if you're making, okay. gaS oil

7:52

or plastics, or you're making

7:54

seed oil, it's all the same. And

7:56

some of those we do need, we do need fuel if

7:59

we're going to live outside of caves and we do

8:01

need plastics, to have modern lifestyle, but

8:03

we don't need seed oil. That's one thing we could get

8:05

rid of all those plants that are built

8:07

and it would be, we wouldn't miss it. Well,

8:09

and you, if you look at palm

8:12

oil, okay. Now

8:15

the world has been decimated the jungles

8:18

of the world. Decimated because

8:20

of our agriculture, planting

8:23

palm palms for palm oil,

8:25

planting cane for cane sugar,

8:28

playing, planting cotton,

8:30

wheat, tobacco. I mean, we can go down

8:32

the list of our production of plants,

8:35

which is also ultimately causing. The

8:37

climate problems of the world because

8:40

the way we have created our food

8:42

source, which is not our natural

8:44

food source, which was animal

8:46

based, not plant based, but, we

8:49

didn't know this, you know, we're not, I'm not

8:51

here to blame anyone because blaming anyone

8:53

doesn't help solve the problem. We,

8:55

we just are working to say, hey,

8:57

listen. An animal based

9:00

diet may help more and more people than

9:02

you know, and it reduces

9:04

inflammation. And so many of

9:06

the diseases that we're seeing in

9:08

this world are secondary to a plant

9:10

based consumption and a low animal fat,

9:13

although the

9:15

belief in the general medicine

9:18

and science in

9:20

healthcare is that plants are good

9:22

for you and fat is bad

9:24

for you. That's really the story.

9:27

Paid for by the Seventh Day Adventists and

9:29

whoever else built that

9:31

narrative. Well if you think about, if

9:34

you think about religions overall,

9:37

they're plant based. It

9:40

really was creating a, an

9:42

agricultural agrarian based

9:45

lifestyle that, that

9:47

fed people of bread

9:49

and beer, the Pharaohs, the

9:52

Egyptians. The pyramids.

9:54

If you think of the plant,

9:56

the food pyramid for

9:58

thousands of years, they realized that if I

10:01

feed them bread and beer, I will control

10:03

them, right? That's why the Romans did the same

10:05

thing. Romans did exactly the same thing. And

10:07

bread out of the square. Right. And so

10:09

you had to control the food source.

10:11

Yeah. You had to have plenty of grains.

10:14

And if you think about it. Heroin,

10:18

cocaine, marijuana, nicotine,

10:20

caffeine, alcohol

10:23

that they're plant addictive substances.

10:25

So essentially the challenge

10:28

for all of us is we're addicted to plants

10:31

and the plants know it. Yeah.

10:36

You know, it's funny. My son, my son's a

10:38

carnivore, by the way, the one we had a hard time getting.

10:40

He's 14. Now he went carnivore

10:42

last summer. And because

10:44

he wanted to be a better athlete because he started running

10:47

cross country and track. He'd always

10:49

been subpar cross country track runner, but

10:51

this year every race was a PR.

10:54

He placed his first race ever on

10:56

the team, which is a top five finish.

10:59

And he beat guys he's never beat before. And

11:01

then he had a soccer season. And

11:03

the last the last week of the soccer season

11:05

was a tournament. He played three games and

11:07

didn't sub out once. And he came to me and said, dad,

11:10

I didn't get tired. And I'm like, yeah,

11:12

I can't imagine what it'd be like being a kid and

11:15

going carnival all the way. It's going to be amazing.

11:17

I mean, it's a little harder at 67

11:20

than it was at 17, no doubt

11:22

about it, even at 55,

11:24

I was better than I am now at 67,

11:27

although I feel fantastic, but I know that my,

11:30

my strength and energy, but I also

11:32

you know, we don't, I don't want to wear down the Ferrari.

11:34

It's going to, it's going to be in the junkyard eventually.

11:37

And I just wanted to kind of be like this thing

11:39

that goes like this and book. And,

11:41

uh, and that's it. But it

11:43

is, if we can help share the story

11:46

to younger and younger and younger

11:48

people and moms, pregnant

11:51

moms, so the mother's

11:56

that, that are eating a standard global

11:59

diet. Oh, yeah. Are damaging their

12:01

children and they're damaging the eggs

12:04

and the guys are damaging their sperm. So

12:06

by going carnivore, fatty

12:09

meat, and I say less meals

12:11

in the day, but that's a whole nother story depending on

12:13

where you're at in your physique. Yeah. But

12:15

it will build better sperm, better eggs,

12:18

better embryos, better implantation. Your

12:20

children will be born with a lower

12:22

risk of all the diseases we have. And

12:26

we're blaming our DNA. On

12:28

these problems, but it's not

12:30

the DNA. It's the environment

12:32

that we're putting into this

12:35

miracle machine. We're

12:37

damaging the mitochondria is what we're doing and

12:39

keeping it damaged. And that's a big problem.

12:42

It is but I think we're damaging

12:44

the DNA, the RNA, the

12:48

ribosomes. We're damaging

12:50

the mitochondria. We're damaging every single.

12:53

So a single functional,

12:56

area of our cells that

12:59

are, are causing our problems,

13:02

science is very one

13:04

sided. They're over here. They're

13:06

not looking like this. Yeah.

13:09

And so I was just at a really

13:11

great conference with Dr. Gleicher

13:13

down in New York City was really great, but

13:16

there was no talk on nutrition. There

13:19

was no talk on alternative things

13:21

like cold water therapy, red light therapy

13:24

faith positivity and

13:26

working in a more positive way with our

13:28

community rather than, a lot

13:30

of people are afraid to speak up because they

13:33

get chastised and human beings naturally

13:35

get chastised. None of

13:37

us like that, one

13:39

more thing about my son. I was going to bring this up. We were

13:41

talking about the plants. He had

13:43

this observation that you became carnivore. He goes, you know, dad,

13:46

uh, Eve took a bite of the apple

13:49

and said, maybe that was God telling us this. It's

13:51

not good to eat the plants. And

13:53

I'm like, you know what, maybe it'd be, it might be, I

13:55

didn't read that into it, but that's pretty

13:57

cool that you are, that you're thinking that way. I

14:00

like it, but that was kind of interesting.

14:02

Well, think about every

14:05

living organism in the universe. They

14:08

all have a mission to survive and reproduce

14:11

all of them. Plants have been

14:13

around for millions of years, longer

14:15

than humans, their

14:17

evolutionary DNA and RNA

14:20

and glyco biome. The sugar

14:22

biome is working

14:25

in their favor. They know how.

14:28

To attract you and

14:30

to repel you. They know how

14:33

to make you

14:36

change their DNA, improve

14:38

their environmental survival, and

14:40

then put them away. So they survived beyond

14:42

the Armageddon, which ultimately

14:46

survived more than anything. And if you think about

14:48

the oldest. Organisms

14:51

on the earth, they're plants,

14:54

trees and such. Yeah. I mean, or yeah, there's

14:57

yep. Yeah. Plants. And

14:59

so they're living organisms. They

15:02

feel they have energy

15:04

they attract and repel

15:06

also. So it's all electromolecular

15:09

energy, but at the same time,

15:12

we are highly biased in

15:14

our belief system. And a lot

15:16

of it is because for thousands

15:18

of years, the leaders, the masters

15:21

have said don't go to the hunting

15:23

grounds. Don't eat the meat.

15:27

You're going to work in slave in the fields,

15:30

we're going to give you a small part of the

15:32

field. You're going to pay us

15:35

to be there and you're going to listen to everything

15:37

we say. And you're welcome to eat all

15:39

the bread and beer and wine. And we even tell

15:41

pregnant women to

15:43

eat those things and drink wine. That's

15:47

pretty crazy. It's horrible. It's horrible.

15:49

And my job in

15:51

my lifetime is to share

15:54

these ideas and stories in a way

15:56

that we wake up the

15:59

lions that think they're

16:01

pigs. That's

16:03

a good call. When you were talking about being at that conference

16:06

and I'm not talking about positivity

16:08

and faith, let me tell you what

16:11

I'm a retired soldier. I, when I went

16:13

to Warrant Officer Candidate School. At

16:15

Fort Rucker, we did a field trip

16:18

out to Andersonville,

16:20

the prison. And Andersonville

16:22

prison is where POWs were kept in

16:24

the South, the Northern, the Yankees were kept down there.

16:27

And that is where our POW museum is. If

16:29

you ever get a chance to go, it's amazing.

16:32

It's the American POW museum. And,

16:35

you know, that's one thing that's a common thread of

16:38

people that made it through being

16:40

a POW is most of

16:42

them. No matter how bleak, how bad, how

16:44

dire it was. Most of them,

16:47

basically said that it's their faith that got them

16:49

through. And you have to have some kind

16:51

of faith. And you can also look at Cuba

16:53

when they imprisoned all

16:56

the political prisoners down there, they had the ones that they called

16:58

the plantados, which were the ones that

17:00

would not would not convert

17:02

to being a Castro

17:05

communist and they stayed in prison. They chose

17:07

to stay there and they stayed there for 30 years or so.

17:09

And those guys were all had

17:12

faith in a religion. Basically they had a faith in

17:14

a higher power that they followed and they stuck

17:16

to their guns. And I think it's huge. You

17:18

know, if you're going to get into a fight, any fight with

17:21

your health, with your body, with life in

17:23

general, with the war, you

17:25

faith is a huge force multiplier,

17:27

what we call the military. It will make

17:30

you be able to do things that you don't

17:32

think you can do. And

17:34

the more we believe and we have faith

17:36

in what the good Lord brings us

17:39

every day, even in the challenges.

17:41

And I was talking to a client today,

17:44

who's. Whose child died at

17:46

10 months old and the

17:48

faith, such a powerful thing for

17:50

all of us to help us survive

17:52

the hardships of life, which build

17:55

us stronger than ever. Yeah,

17:58

I totally agree with that. Okay.

18:00

So we kind of went over how you started the carnivore

18:03

diet. Just a couple of questions on, let

18:06

me ask you about, there's a lot of criticism

18:08

out there that there's not a lot of long term research

18:10

on the carnivore diet. What do you

18:12

say about that? Well,

18:15

there's actually, it's the longest

18:17

research that I've ever seen, because

18:20

if you look at our evolution and people

18:22

like like Anthony Chafee Sean

18:24

Baker, and many others have talked about it

18:26

that, that. We are biologically

18:30

more like lions and wolves

18:32

than we are like pigs, cows, and sheep. And

18:35

so if you're waiting for the modern

18:37

research scientist to

18:39

give you the answer, you'll never get it because

18:42

they're focused on selling

18:44

you products of processed things

18:47

that ultimately are the cause

18:49

of most of our diseases. In my opinion,

18:52

I work in the research world, a scientist,

18:55

and I see it all. And I

18:57

see the bias that most of the

18:59

scientists propagate

19:02

and they're unwilling to step back

19:04

and say, well, gee, maybe I haven't thought about

19:06

that. Maybe that's different. So

19:08

there's only 1 research experiment

19:10

that anyone listening or watching

19:13

needs to do. And they need to do

19:15

carnivore themselves because

19:17

if you're waiting for someone else to tell you,

19:20

it's too late. And

19:22

how long do you think it would take for someone to

19:24

do an experiment on themselves before they could

19:27

realistically tell if something was working?

19:31

Two weeks. Okay. That's my experience

19:33

too. I was curious if that's what the, as

19:35

a medical doctor, you'd think that would be about the same.

19:38

There's nothing wrong with the.

19:41

Your body in the sense of its

19:43

structure or physiology

19:46

it's poisoned. So you

19:48

have to remove the poisons. And

19:51

once you, it takes about, it takes one to

19:53

two weeks. It might take a little bit longer

19:56

for some people, what the poisons are out, your

19:58

body can begin to heal. It may

20:00

take two to six

20:02

months for you to heal many of the diseases.

20:05

And in some people, they may never. diseases.

20:08

But in, in a few weeks,

20:10

oh my God, your brain

20:13

your muscles, your joints, your bowels,

20:16

and you will feel masterfully better.

20:19

Now I've heard people say I've tried carnivore

20:21

and it didn't work. What to you are

20:23

the core principles of a carnivore diet

20:26

that someone would have to do to get those results

20:28

in a couple weeks? What if I was just man

20:31

on the street saying I want to try it, I want to get the results

20:33

in two to four weeks. What do I need

20:35

to do doc? You have to

20:37

listen. You have to read. You have to watch

20:40

the stories of the carnivores. Those

20:43

that have had success. If you

20:45

want to learn to be successful, you hang out with successful

20:47

people in the areas you want to go

20:49

to because you're just going

20:51

to jump in carnivore. Oh,

20:53

I'm gonna eat meat. Oh, I'll eat tenderloin

20:56

and chicken and turkey. All right, which

20:58

miss it is missing fat, keto,

21:01

paleo and carnivore

21:04

are high fat diets. That means

21:06

at least 50 percent of the volume

21:09

should be fat. That's the white

21:11

stuff by the way. And that is

21:13

not an avocado. It's not

21:16

a seeds and nuts,

21:18

and it's certainly not a plant

21:20

oils in my opinion. But I think

21:22

once you. You get a chance to

21:24

listen and learn. Go to dr kilts.com.

21:26

Go to carnivore soldier.com.

21:29

So many things there, but once

21:31

you get a little inkling of what it is,

21:33

you begin to dive in. Anything

21:36

you do by eliminating plants

21:38

of any significance or frequency will help.

21:41

Going to a meat based diet and adding fat,

21:44

you know, and I say, I call it the baby's way, bacon,

21:46

eggs, butter, beef, and salt. That's Kielce's

21:48

mainstay. Now you can do

21:51

the triple B E, which is Ken

21:53

Berry's beef bacon,

21:55

butter, and eggs. That's fine

21:57

too. Or the lion's diet or the lion's

21:59

way, which is steak, salt, and water.

22:02

I don't care where you're at, but fatty

22:04

meat. Now

22:11

that's not what you need to start with.

22:13

I don't care if you eat three, six meals, fatty

22:16

meat, salt and water. It make you feel the very

22:18

best and start there then, but you

22:20

have to learn a little bit about like bowel

22:22

movements and constipation, that

22:25

you're suddenly not going to need toilet paper much

22:27

anymore because you're going to poop a far less

22:30

and you're going to have no more bleeding or bloating.

22:33

It's, Amazing. But I think, listening

22:35

to people online, continuing

22:37

the story, and if it's not working, don't

22:40

give up. You got to just dig deeper

22:42

in my opinion. Yeah. Cause

22:45

if you're a homo sapien, it will work

22:47

because that's the way you're made, right? That's

22:49

pretty much it. You might have a

22:52

reaction to pork

22:54

or to eggs or hopefully not

22:56

beef, but some people may, and if you have a reaction

22:58

to certain type of meat, you have to find different meat. But

23:00

you can definitely do it. Every organism

23:04

has a barcode that

23:06

says, I'm a human. I'm

23:08

a ca ba cow, I'm a pig,

23:11

or I'm a virus. I'm a bacteria, I'm a yeast.

23:13

So all organisms have their own barcode.

23:16

So there are some things that you and I might

23:19

consume that are less tolerable

23:21

or more tolerable than others.

23:24

And those are the things that we have to look at, or

23:26

it might be what that animal was

23:28

raised on, what they ate, which

23:30

can affect the barcode

23:33

for that animal that you

23:35

may have some adverse effects with, but

23:37

I would say that I

23:39

don't know if I've never heard of anyone having

23:41

an adverse reaction to eating

23:44

beef. Unless it's psychological.

23:47

Now you can have some psychological physiological

23:50

events, but ultimately the no

23:52

one I've seen ever have an anaphylactic reaction

23:54

to a ribeye steak. Michaela Peterson

23:56

did say that she can't eat aged meat and

23:58

that's not the meat itself. That's the aging

24:00

of it, right? It's the right no. So

24:02

she has to eat it fresh, which is fine. It's, yes

24:05

but you know, some people are more sensitive

24:08

because of their past exposure

24:10

to certain things, right? And I'm

24:13

sure she's eating a lot of fat. See

24:15

Mark, our protein needs

24:17

are low. Our

24:20

protein needs are low. Our

24:22

fat needs are high adipose

24:26

tissue and fat. Is

24:28

the only fuel for the body and

24:32

inside adipose tissue is

24:35

every mineral, every vitamin, every

24:37

amino acid of every simple sugar.

24:40

every fatty acid that your body requires.

24:43

So, that's the interesting part to the

24:45

story. But yeah, some people do well on

24:48

pork or Iberian ham

24:50

or beef or bison or elk

24:52

or, find the thing. If you're not feeling

24:55

right, you have to adventure. But the most

24:57

important thing is

24:59

focus on eating fat, right?

25:02

That's the most important thing. So

25:05

I had a lot of butter to my food. Just

25:07

because I think it's, I get grass fed,

25:10

grass finished. You don't have to, but I do because

25:12

I, it's a Costco, so it's easy to get. And

25:14

I think that helps me get my fat

25:16

levels up. And I know I can't eat too much because when

25:18

I do guess what, I figure it out about

25:21

10, 20 minutes later, your

25:23

body lets you know, and

25:25

we're, but we're not, you know, whenever you. an

25:28

animal, you didn't meet all only

25:30

fat, although in some

25:32

parts of the world, you focused

25:34

on the fat because remember

25:37

adipose tissue has all the

25:39

minerals and vitamins and and all the building

25:41

blocks of your body. Yeah.

25:43

And it's funny. Cause when I was growing up. I used

25:46

to hate fat and we used to get taught to cut it off the

25:48

steak and get the lean cuts and

25:50

New York strip and cut all the fat off and just eat the

25:52

meat. And now a New York

25:54

strip just does not taste good to me. I want something

25:56

fattier. I'd rather have a burger or something.

25:59

And I make sure I either add more fat,

26:02

add more butter, add some cheese. I

26:04

like blue cheese, Gorgonzola, a little Parmesan

26:06

cheese. Yeah. And the butter,

26:09

butter, butter, butter, I think is really

26:11

amazing. Yeah. Me

26:13

too. That's a big one for me. Okay. What about a

26:15

nutrient deficiencies in a carnivore dad? I hear

26:17

about people all this time. You're going to get rickets

26:19

or you're going to get whatever. What

26:22

do you think about that? And other

26:24

than iodine, I don't take anything. So

26:27

I don't even take iodine

26:29

except once in a while. My wife says,

26:31

Hey, try this iodine. See what it, it's like he,

26:33

she uses all this stuff. I don't touch any of

26:35

it. In general but on a carnivore

26:38

diet, fatty meat diet I

26:40

have not seen in deficiencies, uh,

26:43

heard of them. Ultimately

26:45

the deficiencies are

26:47

all eating a plant based. Fortified

26:50

diet. Remember most, most processed food

26:53

is fortified with minerals and vitamins, but

26:55

in fact, there's no evidence

26:57

that eating that makes you, have

27:00

no mineral or vitamin deficiencies. In

27:02

actuality, there's no,

27:04

there's very little evidence of mineral

27:07

or vitamin deficiencies in any diet

27:09

in our American world.

27:12

But I think there's lots of diseases

27:15

that we think are that low

27:17

vitamin D. I don't even

27:19

know we know the right number for vitamin D

27:21

if you're not eating a plant

27:23

based diet. I have low vitamin

27:25

D and low testosterone, yet

27:28

I feel great. I don't have any vitamin

27:31

disease, deficient diseases.

27:34

Yeah they're getting that sample too, from

27:36

the whole population, it's all on a standard diet

27:38

and comparing you to them, which is correct.

27:40

And again, we, I'm not sure

27:43

in this modern world, just like all the other

27:45

science we're talking about, we're

27:47

selling supplements. I

27:49

sell supplements. Do you need

27:51

them? I tell everyone, if you eat a carnivore

27:54

diet with fatty meat and liver. I

27:56

bet you need no supplements, but

27:59

many people don't. Now, do I know you need

28:01

my supplements? I actually don't know

28:03

that, but we sell them to everyone because everyone

28:05

believes that they need them. And

28:08

we recommend folic acid for women trying

28:10

to get pregnant, but we should really

28:12

be telling everyone the baby's diet

28:15

is what you need to do. Yeah,

28:19

someone posted on my Facebook page, I think it was

28:21

David Charles. I don't know if you know DC Learning to

28:23

Live, the guy that survived stage 4 cancer

28:25

twice, blood cancer, and is doing great now. He

28:28

he posted something that showed the ingredients

28:30

on formula, and it's horrific. It's

28:33

like soybean oil is number one. I

28:35

mean, it's horrific what we're feeding infants.

28:38

Horrific. My, my daughter was

28:40

raised on a formula

28:43

diet. I was raised

28:45

on a formula diet. I know this

28:47

from my mom. She didn't breastfeed my

28:49

daughter's mother didn't breastfeed. And so

28:52

You know, a standard doctor and I got

28:54

the formula for free for the first six

28:56

months. Yeah. And a lot

28:58

of that is to addict us to these

29:00

foods. Oh yeah. Right. Right. And you're right.

29:04

What we didn't know, and what we

29:06

don't know but we really

29:08

need to get back. Everyone was encouraging breastfeeding,

29:11

but at the same time you could supplement with formula,

29:14

which ultimately, it's got

29:16

all the drugs that

29:18

the baby's going to want that over anything

29:20

else. Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

29:22

It's so strange. It's like back

29:25

in the turn of the last century in the 1900s,

29:28

they were realizing a lot of this metabolic

29:30

issue. They're realizing the cancer was being fed

29:32

by sugar. They're realizing, and they were

29:34

documenting and they're doing, they're realizing that the carnivore

29:37

diet worked. I mean, they did the Bellevue

29:39

study, right? They did real hard

29:41

science and were able to show

29:43

that it worked. And then the war and the depression

29:45

broke out and everyone just forgot all that. And all

29:47

they wanted to do survive to the next day. And

29:50

then we rolled into the fifties. Everyone had abundance of

29:52

everything and. Everyone was skinny and

29:54

no one had weight problems and they

29:56

dropped, they forgot all that research

29:59

and all the science that we did. If

30:02

you look at Stephenson Wilhelm Stephenson,

30:05

if you look at Otto Warburg, if

30:07

you look at James Henry Salisbury,

30:10

Salisbury Steak, 1850s

30:13

it's there, it's old, it's been around, nothing

30:15

new. We don't need to have another, I was

30:17

at KetoCon last year, my comment

30:20

to everyone was like, social media is

30:22

the new medicine. And everyone's

30:24

trying to propagate more scientific

30:26

studies to prove this. I believe

30:29

I call it data is doo doo.

30:31

Sometimes science can be snake oil.

30:34

We're working in the same realm.

30:36

If you're the reason

30:38

no one's going to believe it is because they're

30:41

built on the science of money.

30:44

And money is critical and

30:46

the same people that

30:48

have evolved as the Kings and Queens

30:50

and the dictators of the world are

30:53

the money controllers today. And

30:56

so the Pharaohs, the

30:59

priest, the Pope, the presidents, all this stuff

31:01

is the money, and it's more

31:03

about profits than

31:06

parents, money over

31:08

mommies and men, in my opinion.

31:11

Yeah, that's really sad, but it is. That's

31:13

the case. And that's why I always

31:15

say this. I tell my son all the time. Hey, follow the

31:17

money. If you hear something, you can see

31:19

the truth by following the money, who makes money

31:21

on this deal and someone's doing it.

31:24

Someone's making money. I unfortunately carnivore, there's

31:26

no real way to make money unless the beef industry

31:28

is and they're struggling.

31:30

But I did see a video

31:32

from Sean Baker today talking about how

31:34

some of the beef industry people saw him on

31:36

Joe Rogan this week or last week. And

31:39

they're looking to fund some real studies,

31:41

which is great. I mean, we do need,

31:43

I think it's good to put it out there because if

31:45

we're like anything else, but it's, you have

31:47

to fund it, you have to put it out there

31:49

but you know, it's it's one of those things.

31:52

Like we're fighting religions and politics

31:54

around the world. Has it ever stopped? Yeah.

31:57

And so science has already been done too, right? We can point

31:59

back to the ones you talked about. And it hasn't

32:01

changed. It's not like, well, that they didn't know what they're doing back

32:03

then. We do now, but there's something about

32:05

contemporary studies that I think people will accept

32:08

more readily, maybe. I think so

32:10

too. And so I think it's critical

32:12

that Sean and others work

32:14

with the meat industry of I've had conversations with

32:16

them, Phil Avadi has invited me to do something

32:18

with them coming up in next year is

32:21

the more we talk about this, the more

32:23

people we see. And like

32:25

your young son, I think more

32:27

and more. Young men are going to be looking

32:29

at it. And as we, you can't fight

32:31

pigs. They love mud. What you want to do

32:33

is focus on the positive, what we have to

32:35

offer in this carnivore

32:38

world. And men and

32:40

women, I think we'll see that. I even

32:42

had a vegan vegetarian today. Say to me,

32:44

well, Dr. Kiltz, if eating

32:46

meat will get me a baby, I will eat meat. That's

32:49

awesome. Hey that's the answer it has to have,

32:51

it just needs to change that from making baby

32:53

to, get me healthy to whatever. Then

32:56

that's the sentence we need to, implant in people, let

32:58

them figure that out that eating meat will do

33:00

all those things. Absolutely. Absolutely.

33:03

Yeah, it makes you if your body can actually

33:06

function like it's meant to and it's not fighting

33:08

inflammation from chronic exposure

33:10

to poisons 24 7.

33:12

Yeah, it's amazing because that's what's happened, right? That's

33:14

why my body is like completely I'm back down to

33:16

the way that I was in college. It's insane. And

33:19

I don't work out very much. I do. I

33:21

do my a hundred pushups a day now and

33:23

just cause it keeps you moving. I do some

33:25

bike riding and nothing else. I used to be crazy, man,

33:28

but you're right. You're

33:30

when you do carnivore you don't need

33:32

all that other stuff. And I have to imagine

33:35

our ancient brothers and

33:37

sisters weren't saying, Hey, I'm going

33:39

for a run. I'm going to go lift up some heavy boulders,

33:42

right? Your body naturally

33:44

has the muscles and all

33:46

you have to do is use them. And

33:49

eat the proper human diet as our

33:51

good friend, Ken Berry likes to say,

33:53

and I think fasting is really

33:56

great. I say one meal a

33:58

day. You even go, I'm doing

34:00

a three day fast right now. I've already done

34:02

24 hours. And I

34:04

usually do it once a month. And

34:07

it makes, it clears the bowels.

34:10

You've got to empty the bowels in order to,

34:12

so when you eat food. It's

34:14

always sending food, the nutrients

34:17

to the bloodstream when your

34:19

gut is empty, it's

34:22

not, well, it doesn't

34:24

let it heal too, because it does damage the gut

34:26

while it's digesting and doing its job. Right.

34:28

So, right. So the glycobiome or

34:31

the glycocalyx, that's a sugar

34:33

layer that protects the gut, protects

34:35

the skin. Every cell of your

34:37

body has it. Yeah. And there are

34:40

billions of glycans

34:42

potential in

34:44

the glyco biome. It's

34:47

more diverse than proteins.

34:51

And it's the damage to the glycocalyx

34:53

that causes every disease that

34:56

we, we suffer from. And that's, I think the game

34:58

changer when we realize that the

35:01

plant sugars are

35:03

damaging our glycobiome. Yeah.

35:05

Yeah. So eating plants is damaging your body

35:08

basically for all. Yeah. 100%.

35:11

So shifting gears a little bit, like I

35:13

said, I am a retired soldier and God

35:15

bless you my friend. Thank you. No, it's yeah,

35:18

no problem. I enjoyed it. I had a great tour.

35:20

But the the

35:22

sad reality is that

35:24

we have a lot of soldier suicides

35:27

and, sailor airmen. We also have

35:29

a lot of first responder suicides. And

35:32

I have a theory and I

35:34

back it up with some of the things I've read. I've read some studies

35:37

talking about low cholesterol, low

35:39

blood cholesterol serum levels causing

35:42

depression causing mental

35:44

illness, schizophrenia bipolar,

35:46

manic depression and violent

35:48

acts, impulsive acts and suicide.

35:51

We actually get, when you're looking at veterans,

35:54

not just active veterans, We get, I

35:56

think 22 a day is what they say. And

35:58

that doesn't count Texas and California

36:00

because Texas and California don't include those

36:03

numbers. They don't. They don't add to that

36:05

number. That's a statistics nationwide. And

36:07

also there's a lot of ODs out

36:09

there where people OD'd on drugs and

36:11

they don't count them as suicides, right? They count them as

36:13

an addict that OD'd. So I, but

36:16

a lot of them are self medicating and I know I've

36:18

lost more associates

36:20

in the military to suicide than to combat,

36:22

even in these 10 years of war. And

36:25

I don't think my story is uncommon. So this

36:28

is the first tool I've ever seen.

36:31

The first time I feel like I have something in,

36:33

in my whole career that I could share

36:35

with someone that might prevent a suicide

36:37

before I was just worried people are gonna commit

36:39

suicide. I was like, Oh, Memorial Day is coming up. I hope these

36:41

guys don't. And I just sent a text out,

36:44

call me if you want to talk to somebody, that kind of stuff,

36:46

that's all I had. That was it, and hoping

36:49

they would, right? What's your

36:51

thoughts on, ​cholesterol

36:57

and depression, mental illness, and suicide?

37:01

Well, cholesterol is part of the building

37:03

blocks of our cells,

37:06

of our hormones, of our brain.

37:09

Fat is critical to eat,

37:12

and inflammation

37:15

causes every disease in

37:17

our bodies, and

37:20

depression, suicidality,

37:22

criminality, criminality included.

37:25

Are all secondary to plant

37:27

based low animal fat diets. So

37:31

we're forgetting about the criminals

37:33

at all ages, suicides.

37:37

All these things are all part

37:39

of what I believe is a plant based low animal

37:41

fat diet, Georgia Ede

37:44

Chris Palmer, if

37:46

you look at these stories

37:48

out there that you'll see, there's a lot

37:50

of evidence. That carnivore

37:53

will help tremendously. And

37:56

I agree with you. It is the game changer.

37:59

We have to teach people,

38:01

a friend of mine, great guy, his brother

38:03

died of suicide. He's

38:06

putting a lot of money into

38:08

the helping people that

38:10

are with mental disorders. And

38:13

I commend that I'm hopeful

38:15

that we're going to start talking more

38:17

about. Nutrition, but

38:20

when we use the word nutrition and healthy.

38:23

Our brain has already been biased to

38:25

think about fruits and vegetables,

38:27

lean meat, seeds and nuts and exercise.

38:29

That's it, right? Went

38:31

when and then you know what? You're

38:34

genetically predisposed. Let's get drunk. My

38:36

grandfather's both committed suicides

38:39

in their sixties. my

38:41

Father was in World War Two.

38:44

He had a lot of post traumatic stress

38:46

disorder. You had a lot of

38:48

depression, a lot of troubles

38:50

and I believe that the

38:53

diet was the leading cause.

38:55

And if you think about what, again,

38:57

in the military, I had a military couple at the

38:59

office today, and we were talking about the

39:02

woman is pregnant. And she was

39:04

just diagnosed with with breast cancer.

39:07

And the, she said, she asked

39:09

the doctor, her breast cancer doctor, Rick,

39:11

great doctor if diet matters.

39:14

And the doctor said, no, now I don't blame the doctor

39:16

at all, because I think all

39:18

of us in the medical field have taught

39:21

that in general diet doesn't

39:23

matter. But eat a healthy diet. And

39:26

I had a great conversation with them and what

39:29

they are fed in the military is

39:31

a contributing factor, but

39:33

we can go back to our

39:35

childhood and realize that it's

39:37

not the military only, or it's

39:39

all of us. And that's what we need to work

39:41

together to help people.

39:44

We have a military grant. We give a

39:46

lot of grants for fertility care

39:48

discounts for military first responders

39:51

at times. So these are things that we can all

39:53

do better, but I want

39:55

to teach you the

39:57

healthy habits that are meant

39:59

for Homo sapiens. And

40:02

we can heal those people that are suffering

40:04

or know someone who has suffering. Yeah,

40:07

it's a huge deal. And that's why I have mission carnivores,

40:09

another podcast I run that basically

40:11

what I do is I interview veterans who've gone

40:13

carnivore and some have PTSD,

40:16

some don't, but all veterans

40:18

deal with depression and suicidality

40:21

and, because it's around us all the

40:23

time because people in our units die of suicide

40:25

all the time. So we see it a lot. It's not

40:27

like a regular job where you don't see it very

40:29

often. It's very shocking for us.

40:32

As soon as someone gets killed, we have everyone gets called in

40:34

and we have our talk and we've watched videos and

40:36

the videos in there invariably

40:38

are like actors and they show

40:40

a guy before he commits suicide

40:42

and his interactions with everyone around it. And

40:45

we're supposed to catch the the signals that,

40:48

Hey, this guy's going to commit suicide because he gave me

40:50

this, or he'd said this, and then it

40:52

leaves us all thinking did I screw up? Did

40:54

I miss it? Is it my fault? This guy's dead

40:56

and it's a terrible burden and they

40:58

put it on all the soldiers. Well,

41:01

this is one of the problems in medicine

41:04

because we're humans and

41:07

we. We are

41:09

just going along this

41:11

journey with what we've learned, but

41:14

we're all imperfect. Even the

41:16

best pilot, I fly airplanes, I've

41:18

seen the best pilots die

41:20

in crashes. And so human

41:23

beings are not good

41:25

at catching these things because

41:28

we were, it's just hard to see

41:31

and our ability to prevent disease. We

41:33

cannot prevent these things. What

41:35

we want to do is. Give people

41:38

a chance to minimize the risk,

41:40

but ultimately to eliminate it. It's

41:43

it, I don't, just don't think that's in,

41:45

in the human experience. I

41:48

know we can put a dent in that number though, that we

41:50

can put a huge dent in it. And it's because when

41:53

people aren't capable of making good mental

41:55

decisions, because their brains clouded because they're.

41:57

in pain because they're, depressed and

42:00

because of their diet, then

42:02

they get hit by things and they don't know how to handle

42:04

it. And they make an impulsive bad decision,

42:07

providing a permanent solution to a temporary

42:09

situation. And it's terrible. I

42:14

like to talk a lot about faith and

42:17

the journey. And

42:21

because we are used to thinking I, I

42:23

messed up rather

42:25

than God's got this. And then we're all

42:27

learning together and working this together because

42:29

what we want to do is rather than blame

42:32

others, we want to recognize

42:34

it's systemic to all of us blaming

42:37

all of us, but it's not blame it's,

42:40

Hey, how can we put together something

42:42

in this carnivore diet to me

42:45

is like a game changer. Wow. It

42:47

is totally a game changer. Actually I interviewed

42:50

a single mother yesterday or Sunday,

42:53

and she has a young child with hemophilia

42:55

and he's eight years old and listen, talking

42:57

about the mental, she

43:00

said, he started saying, I don't want to live anymore,

43:02

mom, I wish I was dead. at eight because

43:05

he has a hard disease, right? And

43:07

I, and now he's been carnivore

43:09

and he's no, he had, he also had ADHD,

43:12

anxiety, a lot of other issues going on.

43:14

So she put him on a carnivore diet

43:17

against everyone's wishes in her family.

43:19

And they all said, he needs this. You're

43:22

going to, everyone, teachers, everyone was against

43:24

her. She put them on this diet. And

43:27

nine months later, it's a different kid.

43:29

He's drug free other than his

43:31

hemophilia, which he has to go in to

43:34

get transfusions, but he is

43:36

a completely different child who couldn't get

43:39

a C before this. Now

43:41

he's got all A's and B's. A

43:43

kid who loves going to school and waking

43:45

up and hugging his mom.

43:48

It's amazing, right? So this is absolutely

43:50

the key. I mean, you can take someone

43:52

in a terrible situation, change

43:54

their diet if they're on this bad diet, and it'll

43:57

turn around. My motivation level skyrocketed.

44:00

My energy level skyrocketed. Everything did. I

44:02

used to not like doing chores around the house. I

44:04

love doing chores now. It's like I'm going to go do this.

44:06

And it's fun. I don't know why, but that's,

44:08

there was some block there when I was eating that diet.

44:11

I grew up with ADHD, OCD,

44:14

dyslexia, depression, migraines.

44:17

I love

44:19

life and I think I'm always one

44:21

that wants to participate, but I wasn't

44:23

the smart kid. I was like the dumb

44:26

kid. Now I'm using very, in parentheses

44:28

but I believe that I don't care

44:30

what disease it is. It will

44:32

be either eliminated or improved

44:34

on carnivore and hemophilia

44:38

and many other diseases are inflammatory

44:41

conditions that damage and

44:43

disrupt the ability of The blood

44:45

system, the function properly, it's just

44:47

as simple as that. Okay. And so

44:50

the, if you are genetically predisposed,

44:52

now, are you genetically predisposed to fly

44:55

or walk on land? Are

44:57

you genetically predisposed to, to breathe

45:00

with gills underwater or air

45:02

with lungs above, above the water?

45:05

So your predisposition to eat

45:07

fatty meat and not eat plants

45:09

is there. So now if you take

45:12

someone with any genetic predisposition to

45:14

some disease and you throw in a plant based diet,

45:16

they're screwed. Yeah,

45:19

and that's what we saw with her son and the doctors

45:21

are telling her no because when she first

45:23

found out he had ADHD and all this and

45:26

the he would feel is like diet matter

45:28

Nope doesn't matter even her mom who's

45:30

a nurse from the 70s like no, it doesn't matter

45:32

I mean because they've been raised in the

45:34

medical system that teaches them that diet doesn't

45:36

really matter. So hospitals

45:40

the all of the recovery places

45:43

and the mission

45:45

is not purposeful to hurt

45:48

people. Oh, yeah, it's not bad people in

45:50

there, right? Not right. But even,

45:52

even in some ways, I'm just kind of, because

45:55

I believe even the most

45:57

people, if the people in

46:00

the master side believed

46:03

that, that meat was

46:05

bad or good, they're

46:07

not killing, they're eating a standard

46:09

diet also. Right, right. And

46:12

so our job is to recognize

46:14

that this plant based

46:16

paradox is

46:19

something that we've been dealing with for thousands

46:21

of years. And it,

46:23

will it be, will we suddenly.

46:26

All go back to carnivores and roam the earth

46:28

with spears and arrows and, hunting not

46:31

likely And I

46:33

do occasionally enjoy a little

46:35

bit of kilts's ice cream or maybe

46:37

some french fries with a lot of sour

46:40

cream But I minimize

46:42

those things And because we live in a

46:44

world where we have cars to look

46:46

out for airplanes and skateboards

46:48

and skiing and all sorts of things There's

46:50

risk in this world. You

46:54

will improve on carnivore better

46:57

than you'll ever know from any other diet. Keto

46:59

is okay. Paley is okay.

47:01

Atkins is okay. But ultimately

47:04

we know that carnivore is the way.

47:07

Yeah. I made some carnivore or some kilt's

47:10

as ice cream for Thanksgiving. Cause I hosted a carnivore

47:12

Thanksgiving. My brother is a carnivore,

47:14

my sister and her husband, my son, and

47:16

my neighbor was a carnivore. So they all came over and

47:19

I made eggnog. Dukes

47:21

here from my dog here. It's my service dog

47:23

Duke. So made some he's back. Oh

47:26

no, that's fine. I made some eggnog

47:28

carnivore ice cream. And what I did is I put

47:30

a shot of bourbon in it when I made it.

47:32

And I put some nutmeg and

47:34

a little bit of stevia, just a little bit,

47:37

just a little bit, and it was fantastic.

47:39

And everyone. Loved it, man. But

47:41

yeah, it's not something we eat every day, right? That was a

47:43

special thing, but it was fine. I mean, you know, I'm not going to die.

47:46

If you go back to our, in

47:48

the fifties and sixties,

47:50

and then we weren't partying

47:53

every day. Yeah, with this food,

47:55

we had special, we would go over to my aunt

47:57

and uncles and my grandmothers and

47:59

have a special Sunday. All right.

48:02

And and then obviously holidays, but every

48:04

other day now I wasn't eating

48:07

as I, as my current purposeful

48:09

important diet, but I would say

48:11

we're getting sicker and sicker more globally

48:15

because of exactly what you're talking about. I,

48:17

again, I treat. Again, cookie

48:19

cake or ice cream from time to time, that's,

48:22

you know, this is not, a snort of cocaine

48:25

or a little heroin, we're not,

48:27

this is not it. And sometimes I

48:29

do feel we're a little too dogmatic

48:31

or like, oh, you better never do

48:33

that. And I think

48:35

we label ourselves as food addicts. And

48:38

we need to stop doing that. I

48:40

see a lot of people with the dogma on my page

48:43

because I posted how to do carnivore for 40

48:45

a week for a lot of retirees that follow

48:47

me that are on fixed, and then I had

48:50

people give me, cause I went to the,

48:52

I went to Walmart and I put a spreadsheet

48:54

up and I took pictures of everything

48:56

that I was buying and for 40

48:58

bucks a week, you can do a pound

49:00

of beef. And four eggs

49:02

and two strips of bacon and as much butter

49:05

as you want, basically, and salt. And I'm like, there

49:07

you go. That's, that's what you need to get going.

49:09

And I had people come at me saying, well, that's not

49:11

grass fed grass finishes poison.

49:14

And the salt has this. And I'm like, listen,

49:17

we can't let money be a

49:19

inhibitor of this. If that's what you can afford,

49:21

you're going to heal on that because I don't need grass fed

49:23

beef. I don't, and I'm

49:25

sure there's probably a difference. I'm sure there's more omega

49:28

three in there. Great. I, You

49:30

know, it's I've never, I haven't

49:34

seen the study on it yet, but I, I've never

49:36

seen anyone sick because their omega

49:38

three and six ratio was off. It's

49:42

all bullshit. Yeah. And I say

49:44

it very loosely, but in the same thing goes

49:46

with grass finished or grain

49:48

finished. They're all great grass fed

49:51

either grain or grass finished. I love

49:53

grain finished personally. I like the

49:55

marble. marbling,

49:57

tasty, more fat. So I

50:00

think we sort of, we

50:02

dance around and we box or

50:05

wrestle with things that are so

50:07

little important. Yeah.

50:09

what's important is getting it done and then being

50:12

on mission, right. And, and I

50:14

always say that. Hey, don't let perfection

50:17

be the enemy of excellence. You can achieve

50:19

excellence on 40 a week. Go do it. And

50:21

that's my big thing. So that's my message. And most

50:24

of the people were like, Oh my gosh, thank you for this

50:26

spreadsheet. I've been looking, you know, I've

50:28

been worried about doing carnivore because of this and now I'm

50:30

not. And it's like, okay, we're lowering

50:32

the barriers. That's what we need to do. Let people

50:34

know they can live on less than they're

50:36

eating now, probably on either cost.

50:39

I think this is really important

50:41

to share. Because the

50:43

plant based diet is so addictive.

50:46

We want to eat more and more and more of it. Right.

50:49

And vegetables are expensive and

50:51

they don't last that long. Yeah,

50:53

throw it away too, right? I don't generate any

50:55

garbage anymore, right? Garbage is tiny

50:58

nothing and my poop is small and frequently,

51:01

you know, this is the crazy part of this it

51:04

Everything that I've ever

51:06

suffered from is like minuscule

51:09

or God. Yeah, and so

51:11

I think it's less expensive

51:14

than people will think and

51:16

you don't have to buy expensive fancy meats.

51:18

You know, talk to your butcher or your rancher,

51:21

buy a half a cow with your neighbors

51:23

and split it up and get more fat and

51:26

ultimately eating adipose

51:28

tissue. Is

51:30

what you want to do and

51:33

the butter fat, some people can't

51:35

tell, tolerate butter or cream. I do my ice

51:37

cream. I do butter. I do eggs. That's

51:39

what I really love. And occasionally I'll do

51:42

a little bit of, I've been off coffee for a year plus.

51:45

I kind of back on it a little bit minimal

51:47

with a lot of butter and cream, but not much. I

51:49

do a little bit of chocolate from time to time.

51:51

Not that much. My, my daily

51:53

is going to be ribeye steak every day with butter

51:56

on it. Yeah. And N equals one, right? Cause

51:58

for me, coffee, I went back on it and

52:00

I started getting stiff and I started getting

52:02

a swelling. So for me, coffee caused

52:04

that. So I'm back off and I

52:07

know, but it's good because I went lion

52:09

to find out when I add things

52:11

in. Okay. How's my body reacting? Speaking

52:14

of the dairy and egg flare ups one

52:16

of my Melissa, one of my group members,

52:19

39, 39 year old female

52:21

with lupus and hypothalamic

52:24

amaria, I don't know what that is, but hypothalamic

52:27

amenorrhea. That means the brain centers. we

52:30

think are the cause why they're

52:32

not ovulating and having a regular

52:34

menstrual period. Okay. She

52:36

says could a lion diet be

52:39

sustainable long term for her? Could

52:41

hormones be balanced? In

52:43

a case where eggs and dairy cause

52:46

major flare ups eggs

52:48

and dairy. So that's her. Well, the question is she

52:50

carnivore and adding

52:53

eggs and dairy, or is

52:55

she still in the Mediterranean

52:57

side? That's a good one, but absolutely

53:00

carnivore heels and

53:03

I believe it's inflammation.

53:06

And glycation and

53:09

also the plants contain

53:11

estrogen progesterone. So

53:13

you're essentially suppressing your natural

53:16

hormonal function. There's

53:18

no balance to hormones. Women's

53:20

hormones are never balanced. They go up and down

53:23

cyclicity with the cycle. That's

53:25

normal. The diseases

53:27

and damage that women are feeling are

53:30

secondary to inflammation

53:33

from a plant based protein

53:36

based low fat diet. That's it.

53:39

There's a lot of soy that people are consuming.

53:41

Gotta be careful about that. And

53:44

pottinger's cats, pottinger's

53:47

cats, he fed cats

53:49

raw milk, unpasteurized and

53:52

raw meat versus pasteurized

53:55

and cooked meat. The cooked and pasteurized

53:57

animals had significant health

53:59

problems. That were passed on

54:02

to generation. Wow. I

54:04

believe we're probably not

54:06

that different and we probably

54:09

would be do better on more

54:11

raw and less cooks.

54:15

Now in her case, going

54:18

carnivore, fatty meat, salt, and water.

54:21

Is as you the top elimination

54:23

diet butter and cream

54:26

is essentially processed. Is

54:28

it not? Right, right. Right.

54:31

And so the ultimate is going

54:33

to be lions. That's

54:35

what she asks. Is it sustainable long term

54:37

for her? Oh, it's sustainable for

54:39

every human being forever,

54:42

even when you're pregnant and breastfeeding

54:44

and post pregnancy. So the

54:47

answer is, is a lion diet

54:49

for a lion sustainable? Well, yes, it is.

54:51

Are you a lion wolf like, or are you a pig,

54:54

cow, and sheep like? So, these

54:56

ideas are so radical and

54:59

my, my many of my patients, they go

55:01

to from me on either a keto

55:03

carnivore and their doctor

55:05

says, no, don't do those. And

55:08

they call me up or text me and I'm hoping

55:10

to help them on that journey.

55:12

But I think. I think that it's the

55:14

most sustainable thing that anyone can ever

55:16

do. And if she's looking to get pregnant,

55:19

she'll feel better. And absolutely cool.

55:21

I mean, all we gotta do is look at our eyes, right? We

55:23

know we're more like a wolf than a cow

55:26

looking this way, rather than this

55:28

way, that's pretty apparent what's

55:31

going to attack me, right? We're

55:33

here. We're like, what are we focused on? What

55:35

am I eating today? Right. And

55:38

that's in. If you think and

55:40

look at our evolution, we,

55:44

again, out of the trees to eat the grass

55:46

eaters, not the grass. And

55:49

it's likely through the difficulty

55:52

of hunting. And the

55:54

success of human hunters in

55:56

early evolution that

55:59

we limited the hunt. And

56:01

there may have been a tremendous amount of climate

56:04

changes that affected

56:06

the hunt also the,

56:08

and then we're like, well, I can eat these

56:11

tubers or berries and things.

56:13

And I survived. Some people died

56:16

from that mushrooms are highly

56:18

poisonous, by the way. And so

56:20

I think through our evolution, we realized, Hey.

56:22

I can live on plants and

56:25

we were able to live through reproduction.

56:29

So as long as you're reproducing you're

56:31

successful. Now,

56:33

what we've seen in the evolution

56:36

of tremendous number of bacterial

56:38

and viral diseases

56:40

that have spread across humanity, and

56:43

we've seen it recently. I

56:46

believe that you're more at

56:48

risk as a plant based eater

56:51

of the diseases brought forth by the bacteria,

56:53

yeast and viruses. You're less

56:55

susceptible to the diseases if

56:57

you're in the carnivore side. Yeah.

57:00

And that's been my experience. I mean, I haven't been sick

57:02

yet. So since March and

57:05

normally I would be sick in the summer at least once

57:07

and I wasn't. So. I

57:10

went to a meeting, went

57:12

to a Russian restaurant for dinner.

57:14

It was wonderful. They had a huge

57:16

spread and I ate some

57:18

things. I, it was all, it was all animal

57:21

products, but I ate some things

57:23

that didn't do well for me the next day. But

57:25

I did my water. I did some meditation

57:28

and cold water work, and I felt

57:30

better after that. But I think we

57:32

have to be very careful because as

57:34

a carnivore that eats a very narrow diet,

57:37

you have to be careful of other meat

57:39

products or animal products that might send

57:42

you in a little bit of tizzy. But I have not

57:44

had those viruses that everyone's had

57:47

at all. Yeah, that's my

57:49

body just feels like I've had a couple days where I

57:51

felt like something was coming on. I

57:53

took some extra vitamin D those days. Yep.

57:55

And then next day I woke up feeling totally

57:57

100 percent like, okay, well that was not what

57:59

I thought it was. Or I thought like I had a tingle

58:02

in my throat or, you know, you, you know, how you feel

58:04

when you, when you're getting the beginning of a

58:06

sickness bone broth liver

58:09

I think are really important. And if you want

58:11

to, and again, if you eat the adipo by eating

58:13

the butter, which comes with a,

58:15

D, E, and K fat,

58:17

soluble vitamins. You'll be much

58:19

better. Well, hey, I don't want to take

58:22

up all your time. I know we agreed to an

58:24

hour, so I appreciate your time. One question

58:26

real quick. Are you going to, or do you know if

58:28

you're going to go to the the KetoCon,

58:30

they're calling it Hack Your Health this year, I think.

58:33

I'm going to be in Austin. I'm

58:36

not sure I'm speaking, but I'm on a

58:38

panel. Uh, you know,

58:40

they don't, they want to keep me quiet a little bit, I think.

58:43

Well, my son and I will be there. My son's going

58:45

to be there too. So we'll look for you. I

58:47

look forward to seeing you. Yeah. I enjoy

58:49

this. I'd love to do an interview with you,

58:51

by the way, would

58:53

you guys have again, you

58:56

know, it's, you don't need a degree

58:58

anymore to be a healthcare

59:01

specialist. Yeah.

59:03

I guess not. Right. You just got to do research.

59:05

I mean, that's what I tell people when I was, when I

59:07

was in college, right now, I'm a,

59:09

I'm a wireless network architect. I

59:12

manage a network with 11, 000 access

59:14

points, a hundred thousand devices. Listen.

59:16

None of that stuff existed when I was in college.

59:19

The internet was the ARPANET. The,

59:22

there was no phones. There was

59:24

no wireless. So, if I

59:26

had to learn everything in university, that I,

59:28

to make my profession, I didn't, so

59:30

I went to Barnes Noble University. I learned on my own.

59:32

I just. Dug in on stuff that interested

59:35

me and became an expert. And

59:37

the beauty of knowledge

59:39

today, uh, the best

59:41

thing was the Gutenberg

59:44

press and then the

59:46

James King Henry James

59:49

Bible and the sharing

59:51

of knowledge that wasn't shared and

59:54

getting into college or a

59:57

medical school or law school or business

59:59

school. Required entrance

1:00:01

exams, and then you had

1:00:03

to be allowed in, but

1:00:06

no longer is knowledge controlled

1:00:09

by the few. And so

1:00:11

I listened to my patients all the

1:00:13

time. They bring me ideas.

1:00:15

The internet is it, the

1:00:18

devices we, wherever my phone

1:00:20

is. I don't know. Our devices are so

1:00:22

that, yeah, we're like, this is,

1:00:25

and I, my patients can get ahold of me

1:00:28

on that device. And

1:00:30

so I hail the

1:00:33

ability to simply learn

1:00:35

from the end of one. And

1:00:37

if we have infinite ends of one

1:00:40

we realize that why are we

1:00:42

keep on looking to the scientists and the doctors

1:00:45

to give us the answer when Rob

1:00:48

kilts and Larry, a carnivore

1:00:50

soldier can help bring on

1:00:52

people that have experienced the healing.

1:00:55

Right. This is

1:00:57

our Copernicus moment, our Galileo

1:00:59

moment, right? Where we're saying, hey, guess

1:01:01

what? The world's not the center of the galaxy, guys. And

1:01:04

no one's going to believe it at first, but

1:01:06

it will shift. And we're

1:01:08

in a country that has

1:01:11

more access and

1:01:13

freedom to share these things. There

1:01:16

are many countries that you don't have that.

1:01:19

And our job is to keep putting it out

1:01:21

there and our languages

1:01:23

need to be converted

1:01:26

to the languages of the world that everyone

1:01:28

can listen and learn together. And

1:01:31

we need to work to put down the weapons

1:01:33

and to listen to each other and learn.

1:01:36

For each other, whether you're a keto whore,

1:01:39

whether you're a vegan, vegetarian, Mediterranean,

1:01:41

pesky or carnivarian, whatever

1:01:43

your religion or politics are, we need to listen

1:01:45

and learn together. And I think that'll

1:01:47

build tremendous positivity and

1:01:49

helping. And when you're a carnivore, things

1:01:53

make more sense, don't they? Yeah, they do.

1:01:56

Everything starts making sense. All right, dog.

1:01:58

Hey, I appreciate your time. I'm going to drop

1:02:00

you out. Thanks for stopping by. I look

1:02:02

forward to meeting you at KetoCon. All

1:02:04

right. Look forward to it. God bless you. I look forward to talking soon.

1:02:07

Take care. All

1:02:09

right, guys. We had a great talk there

1:02:11

with Dr. Kiltz. He's an amazing

1:02:13

man, an amazing. thought

1:02:15

leader in the carnivore lifestyle

1:02:18

and an educated doctor that knows what he's talking

1:02:20

about. Obviously a hormone specialist reproductive

1:02:23

specialist and a, just a fantastic

1:02:26

source. So one thing you guys for watching.

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