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president, thank you for sitting down.

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So you came to the United States right before

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your term ended. How do you spend your time

1:30

here in the United States? What are your

1:32

future plans? And

1:48

being very well received, especially by the Brazilian

1:50

population.

1:58

And my intention to be

2:00

here is that I I wanna stay away

2:02

from the government that just took office.

2:14

I knew that there would be plenty of turbulence,

2:16

and I did not want to be accused to

2:18

cooperate with the disastrous

2:21

way that the government started

2:23

there.

2:31

Disgute because we have opposing policies,

2:34

mind, conservative, right wing,

2:36

and there's leftist and geared

2:39

towards socialism.

2:42

Sounds very similar to what we're dealing with

2:44

in the United States. This kind

2:46

of internal dispute And

2:50

you brought crime down when you were

2:52

president. It's one of the things that I think we

2:54

could actually understand. Tell us about

2:56

some of your big accomplishments Jair

2:58

tenure as president. Debts

3:20

by firearm were reduced

3:22

from sixty thousand to forty

3:24

thousand.

3:32

And the biggest reason for this was that

3:34

we allowed for the the good

3:37

people to purchased their

3:39

own firearms to defend themselves. And

3:50

through a law that's called the law of economic

3:53

freedom, we allowed for people to freely

3:55

work and create their own companies.

4:02

We are the second country with the greatest

4:05

in terms of digital in the world.

4:11

We chose our cabinets based

4:14

on their on merit

4:16

and not political appoint appointments.

4:24

And we really went

4:28

against corruption. I come

4:30

out of Brazil without one single

4:32

accusation of corruption. We

4:40

also had a great foreign policy. We

4:43

got close and did great

4:45

business with the entire world. And

4:58

also the conservative issues. We worked

5:00

for freedom of religion, freedom

5:03

of faith, and also freedom

5:05

of expression. We worked hard for

5:07

those freedoms. We

5:11

rescued the patriotic

5:13

sentiment of the Brazilian people. My

5:16

simple

5:16

thoughts. And those took for

5:18

me are the most important achievements. You

5:21

mentioned firearm ownership. It's

5:24

one of the first things that Lula got

5:27

rid of after he took office is

5:29

owning a firearm, a constitutional

5:32

right Our

5:53

law is very restrictive when it

5:55

comes to firearm ownership.

6:07

And I regulated this subject

6:10

through decrease that allowed

6:12

for people to more

6:14

easily purchased firearms, which was not allowed

6:17

before I came to the president. And

6:23

out through the decree

6:25

he wants that all firearms

6:28

in Brazil become part of become

6:30

registered.

6:36

Jair this

6:40

goes against federal law because it

6:42

says that this registration must

6:45

be done by the army and not by the

6:47

federal police as he intends to

6:49

do now.

6:56

If we study history, every dictatorship

6:58

starts with a campaign against individual

7:01

rights to own firearms. For

7:06

four years, they said they've been saying that I

7:08

wanted to give a stage of military

7:11

coup in Brazil. Feel

7:14

pretends to be profitable always, you know,

7:16

no sweat. And now they noticed

7:18

that the the people who intend

7:21

really to change the regime. That's

7:23

not me.

7:26

I I hope this translates well,

7:28

but if you were trying

7:30

to do something insidious, you wouldn't want more

7:32

people to own

7:33

guns. And that's essentially I I

7:35

believe that's what he's saying. Yeah. Jair should be able to

7:57

Yeah. I believe that a

7:59

people that is armed

8:02

will never be enslaved.

8:04

That's that's very profound and totally true.

8:09

So there were the protests that

8:11

happened on January eighth You

8:14

were in Florida when those protests

8:16

occurred and yet some people are trying

8:18

to blame

8:19

you. You had nothing to do with these

8:21

protests Why are they trying

8:23

to blame you? And what's the story behind that?

8:36

Jair did

8:44

not have a right wing.

8:54

I was able to bring people together,

8:56

talk about values, and talk about their

8:58

importance for the future of Brazil.

9:07

There's a huge mass of people, conservative people

9:09

that will be the difference in future elections.

9:12

Jair the

9:26

left blames me for this. And obviously,

9:28

I do not agree with any violence or breaking

9:30

public buildings or throwing rocks at

9:32

it. At glass windows,

9:34

but they wanna blame it because they wanna be

9:36

alone in, once

9:39

again, the only the last ruling

9:41

Brazil. Jair

9:44

is a disturbing trend in my estimation

9:46

of the weaponization

9:47

of the judiciary in Brazil. Do

9:51

you have comments on that or thoughts on that?

10:09

Let me give you an example. We believe that

10:11

private property is sacred.

10:26

One supreme court justice has

10:28

said that after a long process

10:31

of someone who owns a private land,

10:33

trying to get it back from people who actually

10:36

took it over. That after that,

10:38

it would be necessary for another Jair

10:52

the long process, they would have to create

10:54

a commission

10:55

to decide if a committee

10:57

to decide if that would be if

11:00

that property would be once

11:02

again given back to the owner.

11:05

It seems as if Brazil is

11:07

going through a very critical

11:09

crisis where in America, we

11:12

are going through a similar one, can

11:14

a singular judge take your rights away?

11:31

Unfortunately, this is happening.

11:41

Today, we have more than one thousand people

11:43

arrested in jail in Brazil, and

11:45

many people have had their social media

11:48

taken away and also the ability

11:50

to to make money on social media removed.

11:53

Because of fake news. All

11:57

analytics. And always, they use the same

11:59

accusations, fake news, or

12:02

going against the to

12:05

the democratic institutions. Protective.

12:15

And fake news in in going against Democratic

12:17

institutions is not there's nothing in

12:19

the constitution that says that those are

12:21

crimes. And

12:25

how can we decide what's fake news for me and

12:27

not for

12:27

you? And

12:29

so these judges are able to make their

12:32

jury judge executioner

12:34

and prosecutor. And

12:37

in America, it's a it's a different

12:39

concept.

12:52

This began four years ago in

12:59

And it's unfortunate because our constitution

13:01

is very clear when it comes to freedom

13:03

of expression. And

13:06

there is an article that allows

13:08

freedom expression, but if you don't have judges

13:10

that defend it, then what goes the article?

13:36

So it's not the first amendment. Like here,

13:38

it's article two hundred and twenty, but

13:40

unfortunately, it's completely ignored because they

13:43

feel that they can do

13:45

anything to protect democracy

13:47

as if I was a dictator. On

13:50

this question on final question on this

13:52

topic, do you think

13:54

that there is a working system

13:57

of separation of powers or checks and

13:59

balances. The reason I ask

14:01

is that the founding fathers warn in

14:04

America, what judges with too much

14:06

power could do.

14:39

Jair is a general consensus in Brazil

14:41

that certain supreme court justices

14:43

have overreached on

14:45

their responsibilities. However, we don't have

14:48

a a force in in Brazil

14:50

that is able to go against,

14:53

you know, and to use the balance of powers

14:55

-- Yeah. -- in order to be able to

14:58

restrict the power of these judges.

15:01

The American founder said Jair

15:03

liberty is protected by the structure of

15:05

the

15:05

constitution. And without that, you don't

15:07

have liberty. So

15:17

What is your message to Brazilians watching

15:19

this back home and want

15:22

you back?

15:36

There's a great wish by a great

15:39

part of the Brazilian population that I

15:41

return as quickly as possible. In

15:50

the next few weeks, I intend to return

15:52

to Brazil and to to

15:54

to have to to be part of

15:56

a responsible opposition to

15:59

the current government. Unfortunately,

16:07

in the last three days, have already done a

16:09

lot of bad things. And I used to I like to say

16:11

that a government by the workers party

16:13

by get Jair not really need opposition.

16:17

Will you return to politics again? Jair.

16:44

I I found myself through politics

16:47

maybe a little bit late, but I feel

16:49

that I must stay in politics because I

16:51

have a very big responsibility. There are new,

16:55

probably, right wing leaders in Brazil

16:57

and I feel that in my position, I

16:59

must help coordinate their efforts

17:02

to help the conservative

17:04

move. Last question. From

17:06

what you have learned

17:07

in the last couple of years, what is your advice

17:09

or wisdom to other freedom fighters

17:11

in the western world or across the world?

17:39

Don't give up. The left is

17:41

very persistent, but we are

17:43

the majority. And as I like to say in

17:45

Brazil, good always

17:48

wins over Ivo. Okay.

17:51

Then we'll We

17:54

don't want to criticize you to follow the path of

17:56

things as well. We don't want

17:59

America to become Venezuela. For

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