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to the program. Molly, I wanna get into

2:03

Biden documents, the board. But first, I just wanna get your

2:05

opinion on something I mentioned last hour

2:08

that we received now well over thirteen

2:10

hundred emails and messages all across

2:13

the spectrum of this idea

2:16

of baby boomers and

2:18

them passing down a less

2:20

free country to the next

2:21

generation. Do you have any thoughts on this? Way

2:24

to throw me into the pit there. I

2:27

do recognize that the baby boomers

2:30

were given a lot and that what they have

2:32

passed on has not been so great.

2:34

But I always think also about

2:36

how it's not just them, even

2:38

including but they frequently

2:40

were the children of the greatest generation,

2:42

and we're always talking about how great

2:44

the greatest generation is. But

2:47

it was the greatest generation that raised

2:49

a bunch of the boomers that gave us so

2:51

many bad, leftist ideas. And

2:53

so I put them in some of

2:55

the blame. And then I also think regardless

2:58

of whether a given situation did

3:00

well or not, it's up to us to fix

3:02

things. And so I hope this is very

3:04

Gen X response, I guess. But No.

3:07

III think I I I'm being categorized

3:09

up for generation bashing. I simply stay

3:11

it a fact that I find to be interesting, you

3:14

know, regardless of the heated

3:16

opinions that people have on it, it's a fact

3:18

that baby boomers received and inherited

3:21

a prosperous functioning country, and

3:23

we are far from prosperous functioning

3:25

now. And we so we talked about the debt

3:27

ceiling as an example of

3:29

this. Because there is something

3:31

that I quite haven't been able to put the words

3:34

to describe it perfectly to

3:37

be able to capture the idea of

3:39

locking down kids and putting masks

3:41

on because we're afraid we might get a virus.

3:44

Going from ten trillion dollars to thirty one

3:46

trillion dollars from two thousand seven to two thousand

3:48

twenty two, there there's something

3:50

there that I can't quite put

3:52

my, you know, put my finger on

3:54

that feels as if it's generational

3:56

plunder. Charlie, I

3:58

I also think because I'm the children of

4:01

baby boomers. My parents were

4:03

always talking about how they felt

4:05

they were part of

4:07

the good part of the generation, but that

4:09

they also had all these people in their generation

4:12

who were hippies, who were, you know, using

4:14

drugs who were rejecting religion,

4:16

who were just

4:18

like really losing all of their values and they

4:20

were really arrogant about it. So it's

4:22

just good to remember that there are different people in

4:24

there. But it is absolutely true

4:27

that the values of that

4:30

leftist cohort in the

4:32

baby boomer generation has this

4:34

idea that you can do things and not suffer

4:36

any consequences or you can just kick

4:38

those consequences down the road,

4:40

and it is very much seen

4:43

in how we are governing things. And I

4:45

hope that as more and

4:47

more people are dealing with fiscal reality.

4:49

They will see that that that idea

4:51

that there are no consequences for

4:53

spending decisions. There doesn't matter

4:55

if we make our grandchildren pay for

4:57

things. I hope people move away from that. I

4:59

do too. Okay. So shifting gears, do you

5:01

think there is a move a foot to

5:03

replace Joe Biden and clear the field for

5:05

somebody else maybe Gavin Newsom or

5:07

somebody else in two thousand twenty four. Is

5:09

there a deep state crossfire move

5:11

to remove Joe Biden? I

5:13

don't know. I definitely heard a

5:15

lot of people talking about it, and I do

5:17

wonder. But the way the department

5:19

of justice is being so gentle

5:22

with Joe Biden and makes me think that they're

5:24

not there yet. Maybe

5:26

this is just the the first shot

5:28

that they're firing to let him know that

5:30

they can control, you know, whether

5:32

he gets to run again or not. They've

5:34

been, you know, protecting him with this, like,

5:36

gentle special council approach. They've

5:38

been allowing him to leak or, you

5:40

know, just get the information out in the

5:42

friendliest possible way. So,

5:44

they might be just exploring options,

5:47

but I don't think he's in

5:49

true trouble because the Department of Justice

5:51

is, unfortunately, so corrupt

5:54

and so, you know, operating with so many

5:56

different standards of justice here that

5:58

he probably doesn't have much reason to

6:00

worry yet. So

6:02

what do you think is is

6:04

the reason for this kind of beginning

6:06

stages of an inter party rebellion?

6:08

Could it be that Certain factions

6:11

want power that the machine is

6:13

breaking apart. I mean, Eric Adams visiting the

6:15

border is just bizarre. What do you

6:17

make of that? I think

6:20

that the Democrats have felt that

6:22

they do best if they can, you know, personalize

6:26

and demonize their opponents, you

6:28

know. So you saw this with how Joe Biden

6:30

called the Republican Party all

6:32

was it semi fascist or whatever his

6:34

wording was. And even

6:37

though things might not have gone as well as

6:39

people would have hoped in the midterms, it is

6:41

clear that this movement

6:43

of conservatives who care about the

6:45

good of society, that this is that this

6:47

is a growing movement, it's not going away,

6:49

and that they are realizing that they're gonna

6:51

have to come up with something better than

6:54

just you know, orange man, and that

6:56

or whatever their approach is thus

6:58

far. So I don't know. It'll be

7:00

interesting to see. And also, I mean, just frankly, Joe

7:02

Biden is the worst. He's very

7:04

old. He lies all the time.

7:06

He's not a great candidate and you

7:08

need such fleet support

7:11

from corporate media that made him even be

7:13

passable, that even a mild

7:15

softening in that exposes him and

7:17

makes it or you might start seeing a big race. I

7:19

wanna

7:19

go to cut six here Peter Ducey reporting

7:21

that there's no visitor logs.

7:23

Play cut six. Some

7:26

news this morning we are learning.

7:28

There are no visitor

7:30

logs, chronicling who

7:32

comes and goes from the president's house

7:34

in Wilmington. And I asked the White House

7:36

council's official if

7:39

a visitor log at Wilmington is something

7:41

that exists AND WE ARE

7:43

TOLD THAT IT IS NOT.

7:46

MIAMI, NO VISITOR LIVES, HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?

7:49

I'VE feel like this is a bit of them playing

7:51

semantics too to just keep hiding

7:53

who actually is visiting and maybe getting

7:55

access to some of these classified documents

7:57

that that former vice

7:59

president Joe Biden allegedly mishandled for

8:01

up to fifteen years. Because

8:04

even if there's no technical visitor

8:06

log, they still have to make

8:08

people go through that waves system.

8:11

Right? Doesn't the secret service Yep. I mean,

8:13

I I use that over two hundred times.

8:15

Yep. And it's I mean, whether it sorry to

8:17

interrupt, but whether it be at Mar a

8:19

Lago or whether it be boarding Air

8:21

Force One, every time that I was

8:23

there, you have to go through a robust wave system

8:25

and it's there is no exception. Period.

8:28

Molly? Right. And so I just feel

8:30

like yeah. No. It just seems like they're

8:32

playing games with saying they're no visitor

8:34

logs because at the very least, there's a

8:36

record of who's been around the sitting

8:38

president, and there's even

8:40

probably records of who's been around a former

8:42

vice president. And I get that

8:44

they don't want to be honest about what's

8:46

going on, but nobody should accept

8:48

these kinds of answers. And I think

8:50

more interesting than that there are

8:52

these paperwork problems is why

8:54

there are so many paperwork problems.

8:56

Does this relate to the Biden

8:58

family business? Does this relate to how

9:00

people are funneling money through the University

9:02

of Pennsylvania's Biden

9:04

center so that they can

9:07

know, like, reward

9:09

people who are giving money to the

9:11

Biden family with

9:14

with favors we're nowhere

9:16

near knowing what's going on here

9:18

yet. And now we have this new

9:20

transfer of rent. What

9:22

are we supposed to make of this? I

9:25

was really interested in that because one of the

9:27

big challenges, you know, do you remember when

9:29

senator Ron Johnson and senator Chuck Grassley

9:31

came out with their report exposing just

9:33

the extent of this Biden family

9:34

business. A little reporting. Yeah. Uh-huh. And

9:37

then you're

9:37

getting money from all sorts of Well,

9:39

one of the things that was kind of confusing

9:41

is how is this money getting to Joe

9:44

Biden? We have those texts

9:46

from a hundred Biden saying that his dad

9:48

required him to give half the money, but we weren't

9:50

quite sure how. Well, this would go a

9:52

long way to explaining how

9:54

the money gets from Hunter Biden's

9:56

business into Joe Biden's pocket.

9:58

And fifty thousand dollars a

10:00

rent would help explain that. Yes. Yeah.

10:03

That and by the way,

10:05

it it's it's so interesting. It reminds

10:07

me of the Jesse Smollett

10:09

Saga of you have the dumbest criminals ever

10:11

to exist ever. I mean,

10:13

Hunter Biden couldn't round up.

10:15

He he had it had to be the exact

10:17

dollar figure. And my working

10:19

theory is that Joe

10:21

Biden was so overly

10:23

possessive and involved, that

10:25

Hunter Biden felt an obligation that

10:27

it was a dollar for dollar thing. Like,

10:29

look dad, here's what I got

10:31

and here's what you got.

10:33

Right? That that there is such

10:35

an overbearing possessive

10:38

type of relationship

10:40

that Hunter didn't wanna even

10:42

be accused of taking a dollar of what

10:45

was the big guys. That that is the

10:47

only possible explanation

10:49

for this. Okay. I

10:51

think

10:51

that's Yeah. No. Sorry. Go

10:54

ahead, Molly.

10:54

No. I think that's a very good explanation.

10:57

And it does also remind you that so

10:59

many people in in politics

11:01

have made money this way

11:03

by trading on Cathell family name.

11:05

And you just see how corrupt it

11:07

can be and how corrupting it can be

11:09

and the Biden family

11:11

was just less good at it than say the

11:13

Clinton Cathell. But They're just they're

11:15

just the dumbest criminals ever.

11:17

And now they're being found out because they never thought

11:19

they'd be investigated. So what happens when you

11:21

have a ruling class that gets

11:23

turned on by their own praetorian

11:24

guard. Now let's play cut eighty two.

11:27

Joe Biden is a hostage in

11:29

his own White House. Play

11:31

cut eighty two. Joe Biden is now

11:33

a hostage in his own White

11:35

House. Yes, this is the sixth straight

11:37

day. He hasn't taken questions from reporters yesterday

11:39

he sat there mutely the Dutch

11:41

prime minister as reporter shouted questions he

11:43

does not want to engage. I'm sure he'd rather

11:45

be tooling around his corvette.

11:47

But Mollie, who's holding him hostage

11:49

exactly? Who's behind this? We always

11:52

wonder who actually is running things when

11:54

Joe Biden says he's not allowed to talk

11:56

about this. Right? Yeah. Can't answer this. It

11:58

is not surprising that he and his

12:01

staff want to run and hide in the

12:03

face of questions. What Joe Biden is

12:05

doing is just what Queen John Pierre did the

12:07

other day when she had a press conference,

12:09

claiming she couldn't possibly answer any

12:11

questions. And What concerned

12:13

about is how tepid the White House press

12:15

court is. Like, when Donald Trump

12:17

was president and there was a special counsel,

12:20

invented to go against him for the Russia.

12:22

Yep. Collusion hoax. Did the

12:24

media stop asking questions about it? Non

12:26

stop, twenty four hours a day, seven days a

12:28

week, screaming, shouting, historical.

12:30

So we're gonna need to see much more aggressiveness

12:32

from not just Peter Doosse and

12:34

Jackie Heinrichs and few other people.

12:36

But really, press core

12:39

wide look, not that I'm expecting that to happen

12:41

because they're all they're all propagandists

12:43

themselves. But His

12:45

behavior is not surprising, but he shouldn't be allowed to get away

12:47

with it. And there are so many questions even if

12:49

you accepted that he couldn't possibly talk about

12:51

this. There are so many good questions to

12:53

ask. Including, like, he claims he

12:55

knew nothing about these documents. So

12:57

why were attorneys sent

12:59

to deal with the documents in the first place?

13:02

Like, how were they discovered if he knows nothing

13:04

about it? You know? You have to

13:06

wonder. Yeah. And, I mean, I bet Joe

13:08

Biden right now is meeting with Christopher

13:10

Ray and all the deep set up of saying, come

13:12

on, man, I've done everything you've asked

13:14

me to do. And you guys are

13:16

now cross firing

13:18

me. Right? I mean, because I I just Om Molly, I

13:20

just don't believe that they randomly found

13:22

documents at University of Pennsylvania. And so I'm like, oh, just

13:24

found these. I mean, it's it's just preposterous.

13:26

Actually, Charlie, I do have a theory on that,

13:28

which is since you were raising your theory

13:30

about the exact dollar amount. Yes.

13:32

I wonder if US attorney out of

13:34

Delaware who is investigating the Biden

13:36

family business was asking for some

13:38

documents that they know exist

13:40

and that that's how the Biden

13:43

Biden's realize that their taking

13:45

of that document had been discovered.

13:47

And so then they started this whole operation

13:49

of saying, oh, we're gonna look for documents. And what

13:51

if these documents are over related

13:53

to the Biden family business. Now we know they

13:55

involve China and Ukraine with

13:57

these documents that were given to Hunter and

13:59

as part of the investigation into him,

14:01

they're learning more about how that money got

14:04

back to Joe or other things, you know, we don't

14:06

know, but that wouldn't make sense as to

14:08

why they began looking was as as

14:10

part of of an ongoing

14:11

investigation. Howard Bauchner: Yeah, I mean, and we are we

14:13

have Peter Schweitzer coming on tomorrow to walk through some

14:15

of the specific crimes because he's really built that

14:17

out and mapped that out. But a lot of this in some

14:20

ways is just inferred

14:22

speculation when you see

14:25

Hunter Biden is such a low life idiot.

14:27

And I I that's just a fact. I'm not I

14:29

don't think I'm being unfair. That

14:31

he he leaves his laptop at a

14:33

repair shop. He does a one to one transfer

14:35

of the the rent refund straight

14:37

to his father. And so

14:39

in closing here, Molly, we could

14:41

spend we we could go ad nauseam

14:43

into Joe Biden here, but I still

14:45

believe that the House Republicans need

14:47

to be very disciplined and not

14:50

take the bait and instill use their

14:52

oversight and the weapon weaponization of

14:54

government to go Bureaucrats in the fourth

14:56

branch of

14:56

government, not just Joe

14:58

Biden and his crime syndicate. What are your

15:00

thoughts? Absolutely. This

15:02

is not you hear people on the left saying, oh,

15:04

poor Hunter Biden. Don't look into

15:06

him. This isn't really about Hunter Biden.

15:08

This is about the Biden family biz. Which

15:10

involves the current sitting president of the United

15:12

States so that there are things that need to be looked

15:14

in, is our posture toward

15:16

China because of how much money the Bidens have

15:18

made in China. That's an important thing.

15:20

But more than that, it's that our Department of

15:22

Justice has been completely politicized

15:25

and is being used as a way to go

15:27

after opponents of the regime and to

15:29

protect defenders of the regime.

15:31

Regime And that's the thing

15:33

that these oversight committees need to do more than

15:35

anything because it's affecting all of

15:37

us whether we're parents who are concerned

15:39

about what's happening in government schools or whether

15:41

were pro lifers were being treated one way

15:43

while pro abortion activists are able

15:45

to threaten the lives of sitting

15:47

supreme court justices. These are things

15:49

that matter for so many Americans in

15:52

addition to, you know, it's it's

15:54

but yes, the Biden family business is important.

15:57

But the destruction of the Department of

15:59

Justice is more important. I I

16:01

agree. Molly, thank you so much. Really

16:03

appreciate you making time for us. Thank you.

16:07

Email us freedom at charlie kirk dot

16:09

com. Okay. In the next segment, we

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are about to talk

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about a story that you are not

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allowed to talk about. This

16:19

is at the top level

16:21

of thought crimes. Now, I've said this before,

16:23

we said this in the last hour, and it's important to

16:26

reiterate. Friedreich and Nietzsche said there are

16:28

certain things you are not allowed

16:30

to make fun of, talk about, or cover. These

16:32

these would be called central pious

16:34

of your entire culture.

16:36

That no matter what you are not allowed

16:38

to criticize, you're not

16:40

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16:42

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16:44

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16:47

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16:49

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16:54

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16:56

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18:20

I want to compliment you.

18:22

On your courage to write these pieces.

18:25

I'm sure that you are

18:27

receiving your fair amount of threats

18:29

and ridicule for writing

18:31

what is now a series of

18:33

pieces. I will admit I did not have the

18:35

stomach to finish your first piece. I

18:37

just didn't. And it was just so

18:39

grotesque and so terrible and so

18:41

horrific. Walk our audience through your

18:43

reporting and we'll go from

18:43

there. Howard Bauchner: Yeah. So part one

18:46

of the four part gative

18:48

series. That dropped Tuesday.

18:50

And it just went into the horrifying

18:52

facts of this criminal case that's

18:54

playing out in Georgia. And the

18:56

adoptive fathers, in the case William

18:59

and Zachary Zulach, they're gay married

19:02

men. They're both now in

19:04

maximum security. Lockup pending,

19:06

you know, trial. And

19:08

so, yes, I've been following this case since

19:10

it broke over the summer. So this is half

19:12

a year ago. And, you

19:14

know, I made national headlines and everything. But ever

19:17

since, there's just been a complete media

19:19

blackout on the story. And so

19:21

I've been diving into the

19:23

court records all these different

19:25

court documents that you're showing this suburban

19:28

pedophile ring that's hidden in plain

19:30

sight and virtually no

19:32

outlet local or national has

19:34

paid attention to it. So you call it

19:36

a ring, elaborate on that because

19:38

it seems as if the story centered

19:40

on these two sexual

19:42

criminals. So what evidence do you have that it's

19:45

a ring? Howard Bauchner:

19:46

Right. So in the seventeen count indictment,

19:49

It charges the adoptive fathers with soliciting

19:52

at least two men in the

19:54

Atlanta area suburbs. One

19:56

Hunter Lawlis and the other one

19:58

Lewis scarce Sanchez with

20:01

engaging in prostitution with their

20:03

eleven year old adopted son. He just turned

20:05

eleven in December. And so that just

20:07

seems like the tip of the iceberg because

20:09

the one at the father said

20:11

that he admitted to sending

20:13

the trial pornography to

20:16

less than a dozen people. So there's

20:18

still a handful of these

20:20

trial competitors out there that are

20:22

still circulating videos of this trial

20:24

and abuse. And we have yet to

20:26

see them be a master named.

20:29

So is law enforcement trying

20:31

to track those down? Oh, I

20:33

asked the district attorney if he's expecting

20:35

to charge any more suspects. And all he

20:37

said was those two suspects who are

20:39

named in their arrest warrants. And

20:41

so now, it just seems like an ongoing case. We

20:44

don't know, you know, the scale of it.

20:46

We don't know how far reaching it

20:48

is. So that's all we know for now.

20:50

And so I did reach

20:52

out to the district attorney's office because I believe it is federal

20:55

jurisdiction, especially with creating child

20:57

pornography. You know, that's

20:59

violation of federal law. so

21:01

in this modern age, anytime you use the Internet

21:03

to create child pornography,

21:05

the DOJ should be able to

21:08

prosecute these defendants,

21:10

but the US attorney's office for

21:12

the Northern District of Georgia, all

21:14

they said was we declined to comment.

21:16

I just have to reinforce just how

21:18

sick this is. And I I couldn't finish the piece

21:20

and it's on townhouse dot com just

21:23

because it's so it's so horrific. It's so sick.

21:26

People that you know, read the piece have a

21:28

stronger intestinal fortitude for this type

21:30

of satanic horror than I do. I'll fully

21:32

acknowledge that. So I just want to reinforce

21:34

the facts. Two gay men Adopted

21:36

two young

21:36

boys, raped them, oral

21:39

sex, the whole thing. Let

21:40

me ask a very obvious question. How do we know

21:43

about

21:43

this? Well, when

21:46

the arrest happened, the sheriff's

21:48

office released a press release, and

21:50

that's basically what the public has known

21:53

about it. Sense. But these court documents, you

21:55

know, they are they were filed in

21:57

Walton County Superior Court. But you

21:59

just don't see any local outlets who

22:02

their judicial court system

22:04

have been reporting on it. So that's what I

22:06

found in these court documents. There are evidence of

22:08

this larger organized crime

22:10

ring. And so it

22:12

appears that law enforcement were tipped off

22:14

about this because Hunter Law is the

22:16

one guy they solicited he

22:18

was downloading child born to his Google

22:21

account. So Gmail automatically has to

22:23

send what's called an emergency cyber

22:25

tip to child protective organizations.

22:28

And so they, you know, issued

22:30

a search warrant on his house. And then once

22:32

they found the guy, he squirmed,

22:35

he squealed, and then he snitched on the

22:37

Zulox and it seems like, you

22:39

know, they're saying, you know, I'm just low man on

22:41

totem pole. These guys are the real

22:43

ring leaders. And so it seems like their whole

22:45

operation just collapsed soon after. Is

22:47

it fair to say since they were selling

22:49

sex with minors after they

22:51

adopted these young boys? That

22:53

there's a market for this

22:56

amongst gay men with thirst

22:58

for pedophilia in the Atlanta

23:00

metro area. I believe

23:02

based on some statements from

23:04

family members in hindsight, they

23:07

believe these adoptive fathers,

23:10

they from the get go, you intended to use their

23:12

children for sexual purposes. And

23:14

that's why they adopted them in the first

23:16

place. And it's just, you know,

23:18

uncomfortable to think how this

23:20

adoption process was expedited. And

23:22

it was through a so called Christian

23:24

special needs adoption agency that

23:26

invited them. They went through apparent

23:28

background checks. And part three that just

23:30

came out today showed how

23:33

the Georgia's child

23:35

welfare system seemed to have placed, you know,

23:37

woke before the welfare

23:39

of the children for, you know, how could

23:41

a same sex couple adopt from

23:43

this faith based agency,

23:45

it's called all God's children,

23:47

and they even used God in

23:49

its name. Howard Bauchner: Wait. So one

23:51

of the one of the adopt es

23:54

or adopters. I guess that's right adopters. One of the people

23:56

one of the the freaks that

23:59

adopted the one of the young

24:01

boys was a former child

24:01

rapist. Is that right?

24:04

Yes, there was this two thousand eleven

24:06

case where Zachary was accused

24:08

of loring a fourteen year old

24:11

boy to a House of Walton

24:11

County, which is the same jurisdiction

24:14

as today's case is

24:16

playing out in,

24:17

and luring that boy to rape him

24:20

there. And so there's

24:22

an incident report in everything that this

24:24

case is based on that the

24:26

sheriff's office has denied my public

24:28

records request seeking a

24:30

copy of. And so, yeah, I mean, the district

24:32

attorney said there was not a whole lot of

24:34

investigation into it. The case was closed.

24:36

No charges were filed against

24:38

Zachary. And I assume because there was no documentation of this case.

24:40

It was not formally brought up in paperwork,

24:42

you know, the adoption paperwork

24:44

or in some kind of, you know,

24:47

DFCS hearing. How

24:49

common do you think this is? I

24:52

do believe it's happening elsewhere,

24:54

not just Georgia, Of

24:57

course, the entry point is the

24:59

political aspect. But, you

25:01

know, we know

25:03

that America's foster care, child

25:05

welfare care system is broken.

25:07

And so it's really sad to think

25:09

of all the children that are out there who are

25:11

being abused behind closed doors.

25:14

Do

25:14

you think there is - so - but do

25:17

you think that therefore with this faith

25:19

based adoption agency, what

25:21

you're alleging is not just

25:24

evil horrific individual behavior

25:26

that needs to be held accountable, but

25:28

you are basically touching at

25:30

what seems to be

25:32

a criminal conspiracy, a

25:35

systemic enterprise

25:37

that tacitly knows

25:40

that child manipulation

25:42

is occurring. Is that

25:44

a fair way to put it? Howard

25:46

Bauchner: I'd say based on the

25:49

screenshots in part three, It

25:51

shows how, you know, every agency

25:53

it seems in the state who are supposed to

25:55

care for these children have failed

25:58

them. And there seems to be apparent cover up in the aftermath

26:00

that nobody is taking

26:03

responsibility. They patted themselves on the back

26:05

for rescuing the children last

26:07

summer, but no one's saying, hold on, the sheriff's office

26:10

at Prescott, the children. They were the

26:12

ones who ignored Zachary's

26:14

alleged pedophilic behavior over

26:16

a decade ago. And then the FCS

26:19

said it was also there. They were the ones,

26:21

you know, who intervene took

26:23

these children from a broken home with

26:25

their biological parents. Put them

26:27

in this abusive household. And now they're

26:29

back in the foster care system where the cycle

26:31

just goes on and on. There's

26:33

several screenshots that they include in part three

26:36

that showed Zachary's conversation on Instagram

26:38

with the executive director of this

26:40

now to fund adoption

26:42

agency. And Apparently,

26:44

he and William were also looking to adopt a

26:46

girl too, preferably toddler

26:48

aged. So

26:48

who is Zachary again? Just

26:51

remind me. Zachary is one of the

26:53

adoptive fathers, but it seems that he

26:55

facilitated the money. He handled their finances. Is

26:57

he in the

26:58

Social Security Prison or is this a separate

27:00

Cathell. He is he is

27:03

it's part of the same couple. They've been

27:06

they're they're being held separately because they're

27:08

charged as co defendants. And

27:10

so this one guy, he's just some

27:12

small town bank teller, but,

27:14

you know, maybe used his knowledge

27:16

of this for moving assets, for

27:18

how they somehow built this custom

27:21

designed mansion in

27:23

mere months because when they adopted the

27:25

boys, they were just living out of some

27:27

small house you know, and then

27:29

so it's just very suspicious

27:31

how they acquired their wealth and how it

27:33

just seemed to materialize after the

27:35

boys moved in. Do you well, are

27:37

you inferring that they they were

27:40

able to make money off of

27:42

selling children?

27:43

I believe that's what's heavily

27:46

implied. Yeah. In the court documents, they don't say

27:48

it explicitly, but the judge

27:50

mentioned at the bond hearing the

27:52

prosecution possibly proceeding

27:54

forward under the child sex trafficking

27:56

statute of the REECO Act, you

27:58

know. And Georgia has its

28:00

own REECO Act it's adopted from the federal law

28:02

that's designed to take down organized

28:04

crime. So their house

28:06

which receives and it's now property of

28:08

the states, and the DA's

28:10

office is also filed, you know, civil complaint,

28:12

the forfeiture, that

28:14

property. That's what

28:16

That's what's implied. A judge sign off on a probable

28:18

cause, Caesar warned, I believe, because

28:20

of suspicion of a Rico Act violation

28:23

that's there was more than

28:25

just this domestic child

28:27

abuse case that that it's

28:29

organized crime that there's a a ring

28:31

out there. And we have

28:31

no evidence that the ring has been broken

28:34

up.

28:34

Howard Bauchner: No,

28:37

as far as we know, there were only

28:40

the two that were naved that

28:42

I spoke about. But, you know,

28:44

there's as many as twelve people

28:47

out there They use popular social media

28:49

platforms like Snapchat to send the

28:51

child pornography and Grindr to

28:53

connect with other child predators.

28:55

And mentioned in one of the

28:57

court documents is this unidentified

29:00

man named Blake who was a mutual contact

29:02

that connected one of these men with

29:04

one of the adoptive fathers. Yeah. Maybe instead of raiding Mar

29:06

a Lago, I don't know the FBI could go break

29:09

up, you know, gay

29:11

pedophilic rings in

29:11

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the west, we think it

30:23

is normal to find

30:26

the exploitation of boys

30:28

repulsive. Praise God, we still have that

30:30

into our value system.

30:32

The Taliban does not believe that. They have a thing

30:34

called t boys. You could ask almost anybody that

30:37

served and an extended time in

30:38

Afghanistan, t boys were and

30:42

are. They bring in boys for

30:44

rape and for sexual pleasure. It's albendas all

30:46

the time. In ancient Greece and

30:48

in ancient Rome. But ancient Greece more

30:50

specifically, girls were for

30:52

kids, meaning like girls were there to

30:54

bear infants. boys were for

30:56

pleasure. The Aztecs and the

30:58

Mayans raped boys all the time. It's

31:00

part of their civilization. So to

31:02

reinforce, there are infants,

31:04

There are the defenders of infants

31:06

and there are predators. You

31:09

could break society in those three categories.

31:11

It is incumbent on us,

31:14

the defenders of infants,

31:16

to stop, investigate and

31:20

fort the predators. Mia continues to Mia,

31:22

if you were to speculate how

31:25

sophisticated and how

31:28

widespread is this pedophilic

31:31

ring, at least in Atlanta. I mean, you said

31:33

twelve

31:33

people. How do we know twelve? And how do we know it's not

31:36

two hundred?

31:36

I mean, that's what the one

31:39

adopted father was willing to admit to

31:41

police when they launched his

31:43

ARM raid on their mansion. But

31:45

part two, you know, goes

31:47

into speculations on how far

31:49

reaching it is because these

31:51

thought the fathers took the boys on

31:53

an excessive amount of family trips and

31:55

they stayed in Airbnb's all

31:57

across

31:57

America. And so if it's you

32:00

know, alleged that they were raping their

32:02

children in their own home, you

32:03

know. It's implied that they could have been doing it

32:06

elsewhere, taking them across

32:08

state lines, And so and they they

32:10

continue to document all these

32:12

trips, which, you know, could

32:14

be considered evidence of it. But

32:16

especially when they went to Chicago,

32:19

they were touring all of

32:21

the tourist attractions and

32:23

pride gear taking pictures of

32:25

anything that's in signaled support

32:27

for LGBTQ inclusion. So

32:29

there's just a lot to the story

32:31

that we're still trying to figure out as

32:33

the case plays out. Howard Bauchner: The

32:36

media is silent on this.

32:38

We know why. At least I know why. I love your

32:40

thoughts on this as you are not allowed to

32:42

even mention the fact that gay men

32:44

might be raping young boys. You can't say that. I'm

32:46

not saying all of them do. I'm not saying, I

32:48

don't know how widespread it is. I'm asking a question, but

32:50

if there's an

32:51

instance, YOU HAVE TO IGNORE IT. YOU CAN'T EVEN COMMIT

32:53

THE CRIME OF NOTICING. HOW SIGNIFICANT

32:56

IS THE MEDIA BLACK OUT HERE

32:57

MIA? IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. YOU

32:59

WOULD THINK LIKE A. J. See in

33:01

Atlanta for it being such a powerful,

33:03

you know, on the ground -- Yeah.

33:05

-- outlet. They wrote about the story

33:07

when it happened in August, but we haven't seen

33:10

anything since I just look to

33:12

see if they put anything out. But

33:14

for local outlets that no

33:16

Georgia's court system, you would think they could

33:18

easily look up these court documents that

33:20

are just public record, they're easily obtainable.

33:22

And so, yeah, like you were

33:24

saying that these far left LGBT activists

33:26

are part of a protected class in

33:29

America. And we're not allowed to call them

33:31

out for abusing children because

33:33

we'd be accused of being homophobic

33:35

instead of just trying to at

33:37

America's children. So I'm I'm I'm pretty fired up about

33:39

this and I'm an evangelical protestant

33:42

guy saying this. We've

33:44

spent decades smearing the Catholic churches if they're

33:46

full of pedophiles, which is not true by the

33:49

way. It's a small percentage and it's

33:51

been dealt with the Prax

33:53

and Kathleen will find it to be

33:53

repulsive. Has there been a similar

33:56

media investigation or reaction or

33:58

narrative towards gay

34:00

adoption rings as the kind of pressure

34:02

we put towards the Catholic church the last twenty

34:04

or thirty years?

34:06

I think the story would have gotten

34:10

more coverage if it was a pastor who was doing it, if it was --

34:12

Exactly. -- looking at the lawmaker that was

34:14

doing it, but, you know, because

34:16

they're gay,

34:18

we have to hush the story. It's just been

34:20

thrown under the rug. And

34:22

so we need to continue calling it

34:25

out, of course. Because as the free press were supposed to be giving

34:27

a voice for the voiceless and

34:30

children, they can't speak for themselves. They're

34:32

so vulnerable

34:34

And yet, the mainstream media is willing to contribute to

34:36

the silence. These poor boys,

34:38

I I have I have two

34:41

reactions. I hope the boys find a loving

34:44

family after all the raping and the

34:46

stuff that happened to them and that they're able to

34:48

find healing. And,

34:52

boy, if we had a quick and expedited death

34:53

penalty, these two freaks

34:57

certainly deserve it. And I say that as someone who's principally against

34:59

the death penalty, but boy, stories like this make me

35:02

change my mind off with

35:04

their heads if they're

35:06

indeed guilty after a trial of their peers.

35:08

Thank you, Mia, so much.

35:09

Thank you. Email is freedom at charlie

35:12

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our podcast. And I just wanna reinforce

35:16

for everybody. I'm not saying that every single homosexual couple is doing this. I'm

35:18

not saying every gay adoption center

35:21

is doing this. But based on

35:23

her reporting, it more than suggests that there is a demand. There's

35:26

a market.

35:28

It's sophisticated. It's

35:30

deep. It's not just someone off thing,

35:32

and I think that demands criminal

35:35

and journalistic investigations. Thanks so

35:37

much for listening. Everybody email

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35:41

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