Chino is joined by a man who wears many hats in Pat Jamlang. Pat, who is a former radio DJ and now an entrepreneur and Brazillian jiu-jitsu teacher talks to Chino about how he found the sport, what brought him to it, how hard the early days of MMA were in the country, and the different styles he uses to teach people from all walks of life. He also talks to Chino how BJJ permeates all aspects of his life and how he uses what he learned to navigate life.

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