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Welcome to today's edition of The

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis

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and Buck Sexton Show kicks.

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Off right now.

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Thanks for being here with us, everybody, and we've

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got a lot to get to. Corine

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Jean Pierre, White House

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Press secretary, gets

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a little bit agitated with

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the question about whether or not

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Joe Biden has dementia.

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It's an insult.

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We even think that this guy who

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clearly has dementia has dementia. I mean, it

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is beyond the pale,

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sir. We shall get into that. RFK

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Junior names a super rich

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lady who was formerly

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married to the one of the Google founders

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as his VP. We discussed this a little bit yesterday.

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A lot of people who are like, yeah, URFK

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Junior is gonna speak truth

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to power about the big money and

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the system, are like feeling

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a little different about it. But boy, Trump

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put out a truth. Is that I

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guess that's what you have to say, right, A truth.

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It's a truth. It's a truth.

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Yeah, wow, look at that, And

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I look at the way that they control

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it.

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I like it.

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They're controlling the language a little bit. We'll

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discuss the RFK Junior thing, just because of the implications

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for the general election. We've got Dave

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McCormick with us in the third hour. He's running against

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Casey in Pennsylvania. It is

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a winnable but fiercely contested

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Senate seat for Republicans. So

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we're going to spend some time on that and some of the other

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important Senate races because

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it's probably gonna come down to a couple Senate seats.

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I mean, it almost certainly is going to come down to a couple Senate

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seats, and that's going to make

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a big difference.

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Well, for a whole host of reasons.

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Biden is lyon or is he lion

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or rather just doesn't know where he is

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or what he's saying depends on the day.

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But he talks about, first of all,

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the national debt and then talks about the train

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over the trains over

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the collapsed bridge in a Baltimore

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Francis Scott Key Bridge. And

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yes, we shall discuss some of what Biden has

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been saying on this, and then the RNA.

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McDaniel, I want to

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do you want to dive into this first. I know we've already

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talked about this issue. But can we just they

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did it? Okay, they actually fired

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the former RNC chair.

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I think she did one interview, and the

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reports are they're going to pay her three hundred thousand

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dollars for both

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of the years of her contract. And

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now for NBC, that's nothing. Remember NBC had

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to pay out Meghan Kelly's contract a

2:36

while ago at like seventy million dollars

2:38

or something, so correct six hundred grand

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for them is a rounding error. I mean

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the amount of money that these corporate news outlets

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can put towards stupid decision making, in

2:47

this case firing well, in both of those cases,

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firing talent is

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remarkable in and of itself. But Clay, I

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really I've seen some people saying this. I think our friend Molly

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Hemingway, who is brilliant and

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also has brilliant parents, because apparently they listen to

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this show frequently, which makes me very happy. A

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friend, Molly hamming Away from Fox. I think she said

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this, or maybe it was Karen Markowitz who said this on X.

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Republicans should not go on NBC or MSNBC

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at all going forward, full stop elected officials,

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nobody, that's it.

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You don't need it.

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Why go on it? Why play their game? It's

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pure propaganda. They play by

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no rules.

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Yeah, and look, I know

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that the way that Rona

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McDaniel is treated here, a lot of people probably

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don't care because a lot of you are

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not huge Roony McDaniel fans. And I

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understand that we had her on

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three times on this show and she

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was great for us as a guest. But

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even when we had her on here, people were

3:44

saying she wasn't right wing enough. What I

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think this is eye opening and should be eye

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opening for a lot of people, is they're

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trying to establish litmus

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tests, and the litmus test

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is if you vote for Trump or

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you support Trump, you

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aren't able to be on their

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network effectively. Even the things

4:05

that they were saying were we're fine

4:07

with Republicans, and all the Republicans they're

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fine with are Liz Cheney. If

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you can't be on the network

4:14

and vote for the Republican nominee

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for president, they aren't interested

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in actually talking to at least half

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the country. And if NBC

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had some incredibly

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sterling level of journalistic

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integrity, maybe

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I look at it and say, Okay, they don't want to

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employ somebody because they think she's going to be

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too much of a propagandist buck

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they hired Jensaki were

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reportedly negotiating with her while

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she was still working as White House Press

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secretary. There are a

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long litany of things

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that Jensaki said that are

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patently untrue, including

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endorsing the fifty one intelligence

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agents who said that the Hunter and

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Laptop had all the hallmarks and misinformation.

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She lectured all the big tech companies

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and threatened them that if they weren't

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responding to censorship requests from the

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Biden White House surrounding COVID, there

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effectively would be consequences. Joy

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Reid wrote all sorts of

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evidently homophobic things on her

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blog back in the day and then claimed

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that it was somehow hacked

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by time travelers who went back

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and wrote things negatively that were

5:29

up for years that she claimed she has no idea

5:31

how they got there.

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I think She also called for an FBI investigation

5:34

yeah of it, to really just

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hammer home how insane it was.

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Chuck Todd went on Meet the Press

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and lectured anyone who didn't get the COVID

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shot that they were a direct

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threat against public health,

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and most memorably, Rachel

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Maddow has been wrong on everything.

5:53

She said that Trump won the election

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in twenty sixteen, she said his tax

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returns were god. I mean that he one

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because of Russia. She was leading

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the Russia Russia Russia collusion hoax.

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Probably made more money off of it than

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anyone in media, because that's the reason

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why her ratings went up. She lied

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and has never apologized to her

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audience for saying if you got the COVID

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shot, it would stop all transmission.

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These people have spread.

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My point on this is whatever you

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think about Rona McDaniel, what she

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has said publicly is no

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worse than what the highest

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not to mention, Joe Scarborough and Mika Berzinski,

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what the highest paid people on MSNBC

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have all said too. So the

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idea of the journalists here that

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their lives are in furtherance of what they

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want to advance.

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Correct and Ronal McDaniels

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firing was addressed by Rachel

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Maddow, who is the

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the biggest name at MSNBC.

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And as we've discussed paying her thirty million dollars,

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which is completely one day eelitely

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to work one day a week.

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I mean, that's that's a great gig.

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Here she is explaining engaging

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in some propaganda herself here about why

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the firing of Ron McDaniel isn't

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the act of just vindictive

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partisan cowardice. That we can all see that it

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is play five.

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I mean what I said on the air last night, and I showed

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that. I think that acknowledging that you

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might have gotten something wrong is a real sign of

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strength, a real show of strength. And I think it's

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a show of strength, and I think it's a show of respect

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for the people who work at this company and who make us who

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we are. That leadership is willing to change

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on this, and I'm grateful to them. You know, it's not

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about hiring a Republican,

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it's not even about hiring somebody who.

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Has Trump ties.

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This was a really specific case because of

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MS McDaniel's and her involvement

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in the election interference stuff. And I'm

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grateful that our leadership was willing

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to do the I think, the

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bold, strong, resilient thing.

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I mean, Discott, she should be ashamed of herself

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and all the people that are calling for the firing

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of Iron mc daniel, because you have to understand,

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as I've said before, put aside

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whether I think a lot of

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our people think she's a rhino. A lot

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of you right now think she's a r a rhino,

8:05

right, and so if that's

8:09

the perception of the base, meanwhile she's the

8:11

most establishment role you can have, which

8:13

is RNC chair. I mean, it would be as

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though if there was, if there was somebody, let's

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say that, you know, they were gonna have Kevin

8:19

McCarthy a job as a commentator somewhere, and they're

8:22

like, he's outside the main stream. It's like, well, he was

8:24

speaker of a house. I don't know if

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you can really say he's outside the main stream.

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That's really what they've done here with Ron McDaniels. She's

8:30

beyond the pale as former R

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and C chair. What does that make you

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and me? You know what does

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that make everybody else? All

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of our friends on the right who are

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involved in these discussions. You know what I'm saying, Like, if Daniel's

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too crazy for them, we got to be locked

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up in a cell somewhere.

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A couple of things too.

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On this one, I agree with Rachel Maddow

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that when you get things wrong, you should talk to your audience

8:55

and acknowledge them. Has Rachel Maddow ever

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acknowledged that she was wrong about Russia collusion.

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Has she ever acknowledged that she was wrong

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about the COVID shot. I don't think she has

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second part here, and building on

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what you just said, this is really

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letting you know that basically

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they don't want anybody who supports Trump to be allowed

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on television, which is a furtherance

9:17

of their idea of censorship. They

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don't even want people to be able

9:21

to hear an argument for why you might be

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willing to support Trump. And for

9:26

everybody out there, I think this is important. Fox

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News employed Donna Brazil. Did

9:31

Sean Hannity start off his show talking

9:34

about how angry he was at

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Fox News because they were

9:38

employing Hillary Clinton's I think she was a campaign

9:41

manager, wasn't she Whatever her official title was,

9:43

she was very high up in the Clinton twenty

9:45

sixteen campaign.

9:46

She's a real Democrat like anybody.

9:49

She's a Democrat. Anybody in the Democrat Party

9:51

have se Yeah, Donna Brazil, she's a Democrat.

9:53

She's put in the time, she and she for their cause.

9:55

And she wied and said that Trump

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got elected because of the Russia collusion, and

10:00

she said that twenty sixteen was stolen from

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Hillary Clinton.

10:03

She said all those things.

10:04

Sean Hannity didn't open his show, Tucker Carlson

10:06

didn't open his show, r Ingram.

10:09

They allowed that.

10:10

Where is their actual discussion

10:12

of ideas? Though, I do think it's important to compare

10:14

MSNBC and Fox News in

10:16

that respect, and I think

10:19

that, first of all, a lot of the reason why I

10:21

think you'd have far more Democrats going

10:23

on Fox than you see

10:25

if it wasn't for the fact that they take

10:27

untenable positions. You know, go on

10:30

Fox News and try to argue with Sean

10:32

or Jesse or or you know,

10:34

any of the opinion hosts about

10:36

how men can get pregnant, Like, see how that goes

10:38

for you as a Democrat member of Congress or a

10:40

pundit or whatever.

10:41

You're gonna get smoked. So it's Fox

10:44

is willing to have them on. I think even more

10:47

would go on if it wasn't for

10:49

the fact that they realized that they would be have

10:51

a lot of trouble. You know, I'd

10:53

be willing to go on MSNBC or CNN

10:56

if it was going to be me and the host. The problem

10:58

is you can't go on those shows if it's

11:00

a host and a guest, because then all

11:02

that happens is while you think you're in a boxing

11:04

match with the other guest,

11:07

the host comes up behind you with a stool

11:09

and hits you in the back of the head, and then you hear

11:11

the bell ring. You're like, what just happened? Like, that's the it's

11:14

a it's a setup. I did this at CNN. It's

11:16

a setup. It's a scam. You know, Don Lemon

11:18

did that to me at CNN. I mean, this is like the way

11:20

that it works, not your show. You don't get to control

11:22

the pace of it all. But but

11:24

again, Clay, I think the funniest part

11:26

is, Okay, so what what

11:29

Republican right now would

11:31

be the top hire if Rachel

11:34

Maddow had to had to pick?

11:36

You know what I'm saying about me. But

11:39

isn't that whole I mean that? Yeah, I mean I think that's the answer

11:42

anti Trump.

11:43

You have to be an acceptable Republican

11:46

to the Democrats in this election cycle

11:48

and be on the media on platforms

11:50

they control. You have to be a Republican

11:53

who wants the Democrat to win the election.

11:56

Yeah, that's insane.

11:58

You have bonkers, You have

12:00

to be the Washington generals. They're

12:03

the Harlem globe trotters. You're the Washington

12:05

generals who gets trot trotted out and

12:07

loses every single game. You're the

12:10

convenient use the jobber. You're the

12:12

guy who gets beaten up by the star

12:14

wrestler who inevitably is going

12:16

to to to end up triving. But you

12:19

have to at least give the idea

12:21

that there is a real fight going

12:24

on.

12:24

I'm not but I'm not even sure that I think

12:26

that that was true.

12:28

More true at CNN during the Trump

12:30

admnut there's been a transition I mean clay

12:33

to to really belabor our analogy

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here.

12:35

It's like the jobber now steps.

12:37

In the ring and is like, I agree with the

12:39

star, let's go body slam somebody in the audience

12:42

that they're not even You know, if you watch MSNBC,

12:44

which I do occasionally.

12:46

I find it.

12:46

I'm gonna tell you the truth, I have watched more MSNBC

12:49

in the last few months than I have Fox or any other you

12:51

know, cable news channel, because it's more

12:53

it's entertaining for me because I see what they're saying. They

12:56

want people on who just sit there and

12:59

uh, and do what the so called conservative

13:01

on the view does, which is just basically agree with

13:03

all the Democrats about how Trump is hitler and

13:05

the election is going to be the end of the country

13:07

if he wins, and that's it. You can't

13:10

like you guys are saying there was an insurrection

13:13

Clay led by people who

13:15

were walking around and taking

13:17

selfies and a dude in a furry

13:20

hat who clearly had some emotional stability

13:22

issues that they engaged in

13:25

in no lethal violence, lethal

13:27

violence of any kind. And you're really gonna

13:29

say it's an they're going to overthrow the government.

13:32

I know it's crazy. It's crazy talk.

13:34

And I was trying to think who was the CNN

13:36

guy jeffro was at Jeffrey Ward, who was the huge

13:39

Trump guy that ended up getting fired.

13:40

Oh, I knew he was gonna get fired. Look, I'll tell you. I

13:42

told what's his name,

13:45

a Steve Cortes. I said, because

13:47

I had been a CNN contributor and I left, they offered

13:49

me they actually wanted to keep me, which I thought was hilarious.

13:52

But I was like, I'm out of here because they used me for terrorism

13:54

analysis, you know whatever. But

13:57

I told h Cortez. I

13:59

was like, dude, you can't. Eventually they're gonna

14:01

betray you when they did, because the

14:03

one of you being there is to get fillaid, and

14:05

so if you're not getting fillaid, they're

14:07

gonna just push you out.

14:09

I don't even know who this A

14:11

prominent Trump supporter that appears

14:13

on MSNBC or CNN would

14:15

even be at this point, do you?

14:18

I mean, nobody would have any we would know. Think

14:20

about Eclipse. Yeah, but by

14:23

the way, if it was about the business model, think

14:25

about if you

14:27

or I were invited. I don't even know who the who's

14:29

in CNN primetime. I honestly don't

14:31

know. I couldn't tell you who's

14:33

Caitlyn Collins and Anderson Cooper are

14:36

the only two I know, Okay,

14:39

right, I mean imagine.

14:40

Anderson Cooper has been there a long time. I

14:42

don't even don Lemon got fired at Caitlyn

14:45

Collins. I'm not even sure who else is. Yeah, Anderson

14:47

Cooper for your year and now.

14:48

Their their whole Democrat media apparatus

14:52

of journalism and objective it's

14:54

all the whole thing has collapsed into into a

14:56

farce. We've known it's been a lie for a long time,

14:58

but now it's actually laughable. It's absurd,

15:01

And this firing of Ronald McDaniel before

15:03

she could even start her job is

15:05

just it's just classic. There's such This

15:07

is the thing about Libs. They're such babies,

15:10

honestly.

15:12

Election denying. If they all denied

15:14

the election.

15:14

Russia collusion was one giant

15:17

election denial scheme, using

15:19

the DOJ to try to lock people up based

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on bull crap. Okay, they're the original

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Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging

16:47

out with us. We're talking about the fallout

16:49

of the decision

16:52

to fire Ron McDaniel. I will say

16:55

getting paid six hundred k for one interview

16:57

is good work. I think the

17:00

the challenge for anybody out

17:02

there is it's

17:04

hard to get into media and

17:07

if you are willing to support Donald

17:09

Trump, you and I are. It's

17:12

about everybody out there listening is going to end

17:14

up supporting him.

17:16

Especially.

17:17

We need to talk some about this RFK announcement

17:19

which I watched yesterday and just I

17:22

don't know who's advising him, but did you see that

17:25

they started with an apology to Native

17:27

Americans that he.

17:28

Oh, I want to get to that.

17:30

I've been very skeptical of this RFK

17:32

junior fellow from the beginning.

17:35

Well, I agree with him on the COVID

17:37

stuff. I agree with him on the censorship

17:39

industrial compot.

17:41

We agree on the COVID stuff, But I've

17:43

always said, what about all the other stuff? And if

17:45

you're going to open I mean opening

17:47

with an apology to like the native tribe

17:50

that used to own the land or whatever that's

17:52

up there with announcing your pronouns, it really

17:54

is.

17:54

I agree.

17:55

I mean, if anybody has done anything

17:57

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Okay, we mentioned this for I

19:00

wanted you all to.

19:02

Hear it yourselves

19:04

before we start to dissect

19:07

this politically. So our FK

19:10

Junior has announced that his and where.

19:13

We told at one point who

19:16

was in the mixic.

19:16

Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers and

19:19

Jesse Ventura. So Jets fans can

19:21

relax out there. Your quarterback

19:23

is not running for vice president. During football

19:25

season.

19:26

I got to tell you, I think I think either

19:29

of those picks would have been more popular,

19:31

at least with the RFK Junior voter

19:34

base than a I

19:36

had never heard of this person before, so

19:39

and you and I we make a living

19:42

reading and thinking of and talking about politics

19:44

all day. Never heard of Nicole Shanahan before in my

19:46

life. I mean, maybe I saw some story back

19:48

when the Elon slash Surrogei

19:51

Brinn Wall Street Journal thing was published.

19:53

But before we get to that component

19:55

of it, and keep in mind

19:58

you might be saying Buck third Party Canada, who can about

20:00

his VP? The

20:02

data shows that it really

20:04

could come down to what

20:06

r f K Junior's campaign effect,

20:09

What states does he get on the ballot and who

20:11

votes for him in those states? That could determine

20:13

the presidency. So theoretically the future of America,

20:15

maybe the future of the world.

20:16

So it could have I.

20:18

Know that's a bit of a butterfly effect view

20:20

of things, but it could have some major, major ramifications.

20:23

But first up, at his

20:25

vice presidential announcement, he opened

20:28

with a land acknowledgment

20:30

of the muwakma

20:33

olone Indian.

20:35

Are you familiar?

20:35

I've never heard of the mwakma Olone

20:37

personally, I can't say that I've

20:39

celebrated their work, you know, their

20:42

whole catalog before. But the mwakma

20:45

Olone Indian tribe play.

20:46

For ma.

21:07

Opy hedyty

21:16

opyty

21:23

Okay.

21:23

I mean, I think is there words

21:25

other than this like this is say we

21:27

should this should be our new intro music for a while.

21:29

But anyway that would be

21:32

that would actually be amazing.

21:33

If we started the show by apologizing with the Native

21:36

Americans every show, every day.

21:38

We were doing new a new chant apologizing

21:40

for the t you for Tennessee, be

21:42

for Florida. Hey, Tennessee and Florida. A lot of a

21:44

lot of stuff happened there, A lot of stuff happened.

21:46

And Tennessee named after whatever the group

21:49

was. I don't know, I uh that was

21:52

here or it's the name of what

21:54

they called the Native Americans called the region

21:56

that I live in now. Yes, yeah, safe bet in America.

21:58

If the name of your town or city is long and hard

22:00

to spell, it's probably from a Native American tribe.

22:03

So Tallahassee.

22:05

You know, there's a lot of them. I'm

22:08

just I'll start with this, Clay.

22:11

Anyone who would make the decision to start a

22:13

meeting with an acknowledgment

22:15

of the stolen land is

22:17

someone that I do not trust. I will

22:19

just say it, I do not trust that person. I

22:21

don't care what other issues they're good on. This

22:24

to me is for for me,

22:26

it's a disqualifier full of yes.

22:28

I would not.

22:29

This is, by the way, some of you out there have probably

22:32

never heard of this before. I read

22:34

about this a couple of years ago, and I did a

22:36

deep dive on it because I was stunned.

22:38

This is happening at colleges all over the

22:40

place. It is now commonplace

22:43

for colleges for classes to

22:46

begin the semester with an apology

22:48

to Native Americans for the

22:50

fact that we now live on their

22:53

land.

22:54

Not making it up. This actually is.

22:56

It occurs, and I

22:59

think it's just evidence that while

23:01

you can agree with some of what RFK

23:04

Junior says, it's

23:06

a little bit like, to me, Buck

23:10

the guy who believes in every conspiracy

23:12

theory.

23:13

He's gonna be right once in a while, but.

23:15

You're also gonna end up going down

23:18

crazy rabbit holes. And

23:21

to me, that's a little bit what RFK Junior

23:23

is. He's the guy who recognizes

23:25

and calls out some conspiracy theories

23:28

that are true, but also

23:30

you're really kooky in

23:33

other areas. And so I think he's

23:35

right on COVID. I think he's right on government

23:37

censorship. He's got those right. But

23:39

if this, remember this is a big event for him,

23:41

Buck, the announcement of the vice president, what

23:44

you choose to do and how you choose

23:47

to make that announcement, to say nothing of who you

23:49

pick to me is evidence

23:51

of your decision making in general. Opening

23:54

with a Native American apology is a

23:56

I'm out moment.

23:58

Yeah, And to I know that he's very

24:00

concerned with the environment. I

24:03

the environmental movement in this country

24:05

has become almost entirely

24:08

the province of a delusional

24:10

left wing climate change mania.

24:12

I mean there's very little. If you want.

24:14

It's so interesting. If you talk about conservation,

24:17

then you'll have conservatives in the conversation

24:20

conservation of the environment, conservation of species.

24:23

A lot of right wingers. I'm one of them.

24:25

We love animals, right, I mean, we we conservation

24:28

we're all about and and that's something that

24:31

it's just that one change of word, the moment

24:33

you say you're if you say you're an environmentalist

24:36

in America today. Chances

24:39

are it means you're saying you believe in climate

24:41

change and you double mass during

24:43

COVID, and you know, you went along with this monolith

24:47

of establishment consensus

24:49

science that's not really consensus, and that's not really

24:51

science. But before we get too far, speaking

24:53

rabbit holes down that one. I mean, here's here's rfkjunion.

24:56

So the whole native Native land

24:58

thing, I mean, but I just wonder

25:01

how long do we do that for, Like, in a thousand years,

25:03

are we still supposed to be saying I'm sorry that this was

25:05

land stolen from the from by the way,

25:07

I mean, at the end of the day, all nation states

25:09

are stolen land.

25:10

I know this.

25:11

I know this is like a shock to people, but all all

25:13

countries are on land that used

25:15

to belong to some other group, to some other tribe,

25:17

to some other religion at some other point in time, all

25:20

over the world. I mean, maybe there's a few exceptions,

25:22

and like you.

25:22

Know, the South Pacific, but also all

25:25

those Native American tribes fought over the land

25:27

themselves, so they stole it from each other all

25:29

the time.

25:29

And there were they you know the uh, you

25:32

know, some of them, you know, the Comanche

25:34

enslaved other tribes, and the Aztecs were a

25:36

slave empire and they would slaughter thousands

25:38

of people as human sacrifice. They would murdered children,

25:40

rip their hearts out. They enslaved all the neighboring

25:43

tribes. This notion that the only people that

25:45

ever have done conquest or white European

25:47

colonial settlers, is completely

25:50

ahistorical ignorance that relies

25:52

on the lack of history knowledge

25:55

that unfortunately is pervasive across

25:57

a lot of the American landscape

26:00

these days. A lot of people just don't know. I

26:02

mean, you know, this is why you start talking about.

26:04

Like the the.

26:06

Islamic white slave trade, right, the

26:08

slave trade by Islamic traders

26:11

in white Europeans people.

26:14

You walk around, you ask people about this one, they'll

26:16

look at you like you were insane. This went on for four hundred

26:18

years. They were

26:20

sending slave ships to grab

26:22

people off the coast of Ireland.

26:24

They made it from North Africa to Ireland.

26:27

They went a long way to get their slaves. They went to Iceland

26:29

at one point to pick up to steal

26:31

slaves. Like anyway slavery, Every person

26:34

listening to us has ancestors

26:37

who were slaves and probably

26:39

in slavers, because that is the history

26:42

of humanity. I mean,

26:44

even if people had a basic, basic foundational

26:47

understanding of the Old Testament, for example, they

26:49

would say, wait a second, I don't think that the

26:52

Jews were in Egypt because they were invited

26:54

guests, you know. Yeah, the understanding

26:57

of slavery as a multi thousand year

27:00

an empire built on slavery, the Islamic Empire built

27:02

on slavery. Anyway, we would not have time to get into all

27:04

this. But this idea, it's completely

27:06

a historical it's nonsense, it's garbage. And

27:08

also that they talk so much about the Native American

27:10

genocide. The fact of the matter is and something

27:12

else you're not supposed to talk about, but about ninety

27:14

to ninety five percent of the casualties in the New

27:16

World or the loss of life in the New World

27:19

came from it's spread of disease.

27:21

Yeah, that's actually what happens.

27:24

Now.

27:25

That doesn't excuse the other stuff that was going on.

27:28

But what was going on, I mean, who

27:30

was attacking who and where and anyway,

27:32

Sorry, I get fired up about this because this stuff

27:35

is so omnipresent

27:38

on campuses and in the media now too.

27:40

Here's RFK Junior naming We're getting

27:42

back on track, naming his San Francisco

27:45

lawyer Nicole Shanahan as

27:47

running mate.

27:48

Play three.

27:48

I wanted someone who would honor the

27:51

traditions or a nation as

27:54

a nation of the immigrants, but

27:56

who also understands that

27:58

to be a nation, we

28:00

need secure borders. And

28:03

I found all of those qualities

28:05

in a woman who grew

28:08

up right here in Oakland, the

28:10

daughter of immigrants, who

28:12

overcame every daunting obstacle

28:15

and went on to achieve the highest

28:17

levels of the American dream.

28:20

So that is why I'm so proud

28:22

to introduce to you the

28:24

next Vice President of the United States,

28:27

my fellow lawyer, a brilliant

28:29

scientist, technologist, a

28:31

fierce warrior mom, Nicole

28:34

sand.

28:37

Or. He wants somebody who can write huge checks

28:40

because she used to be married to a founder of Google

28:42

and now is rich.

28:43

That's a question. Part of this, yeah, huge

28:45

part of it. Question.

28:47

She's the one who wrote, underwrote the Super

28:49

Bowl ad that aired for

28:51

RFK Junior, which was to your point. You started

28:54

off by saying the first time you had heard of

28:56

her. That was the first time I'd ever heard of her in

28:58

terms of a political context. Question

29:00

for you as we go to break, I'll ask it when we come back.

29:02

You don't have to answer it right now. But all of you out there

29:05

too. RFK Junior third party

29:07

independent candidate. The debate is over

29:09

who is he going to impact the most? But let me ask

29:12

you this, buck, what if he

29:14

were the actual Democrat nominee?

29:18

Would he beat Trump? If

29:20

instead of Biden, remember he

29:22

initially ran as the Democrat nominee.

29:25

Would RFK Junior as a Democrat

29:28

be a stronger candidate than

29:30

Biden? Just think about it, don't answer

29:33

it right now. That's what we call a t's in the

29:35

business. Clay is just he's

29:37

pulling the plug on the stereo system.

29:39

He's turning around the lights at the house party. Everyone's

29:42

frozen. They're like, is this a cop? What's going on? We're

29:44

all on the edge of our seat right now. I'll give you my

29:46

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31:01

tape back in the.

31:02

Day, Remember bet I'm

31:04

a Loser Baby. Yes, fantastic.

31:06

I mean I like the riff, but I'm like, I don't

31:08

know about the message.

31:11

Yeah, I mean I

31:12

I can barely keep up with the lyrics

31:14

of any song today.

31:16

Have you ever Have you ever like later

31:18

on in life, thought about the lyrics

31:20

of a song you grew up with and realized, oh

31:22

my gosh, he or she is talking

31:24

about very naughty things.

31:26

Well, yes, but also at

31:29

least you can understand some lyrics.

31:32

Go back and read the lyrics to Nirvana. I

31:35

mean, none of them make any sense at all.

31:37

It's like almost indecipherable.

31:39

And that doesn't even get me into today's

31:42

rap, Like it's all mumble rap, like

31:44

my kids like it. I can't tell what anybody's saying.

31:47

It's interesting. I like nineties

31:49

rock a lot. Yeah, do not like

31:51

Nirvana, And I know you're not.

31:53

That's like not allowed

31:55

to.

31:56

It would be like saying you're really pro masking,

31:58

but you hate fauci, Like you're not all out to

32:00

dislike Nirvana and like nineties

32:03

grunge rock all you know, alternative

32:05

music, But I do. I just I don't like Nirvana,

32:08

But I love Stone Temple Pilots and Sound Garden

32:10

and Smashing Pumpkins

32:12

all the other ones. I just don't like Nirvana.

32:14

So the nineties, I would argue.

32:18

Maybe the best in terms

32:21

of pure range that

32:23

music has ever been.

32:24

Our listeners forty

32:27

to fifty something right now

32:29

are pumping their fists in the air and thinking about

32:32

that time that you know they

32:34

were at the stadium listening to Stone

32:36

Temple Pilots with their you know, high school

32:39

girlfriend or college girlfriend or whatever. Everybody

32:41

else is like, that's blasphemy. I'm just telling you this

32:43

is a very generation specific I.

32:45

Agree on some level, although the

32:48

range of music

32:50

today, it seems to me, is

32:52

far less significant

32:55

in terms of the quality. Like you had the nineties

32:57

rock bands that were at their A.

33:00

Rap I would argue peaked

33:02

in the nineties in terms.

33:04

Of well, but have we turned into two middle

33:06

aged white guys who were saying the music today

33:09

isn't as good as it was when we were growing up?

33:12

I just I mean, the best? Who is

33:14

the best rock star in America? Right now?

33:17

Is there even that is like popular

33:19

in the twenty twenties that

33:21

didn't exist before?

33:23

Now?

33:24

I can't I don't even know who the band would be. Rock

33:27

is definitely worse. I rap again.

33:29

I understand a lot of you do not listen to rap.

33:32

My fourteen year old thirteen,

33:34

he's I can't even keep up. He's gonna be fourteen

33:36

soon. He plays this stuff

33:38

I can't eat. It's mumble core they call it, or

33:40

whatever. You can't even understand anything that anybody's saying.

33:43

This is not good. This

33:47

is getting.

33:49

Before we start getting to nostalgic about so. Oh

33:51

yeah, well I see something, didn't I yeah, we got

33:53

We got to actually dive in here too. Would

33:57

r SK Junior rite the question

33:59

you pose everyone on a sliffhanger I'm trying

34:01

to pull us from the edge here. Would

34:05

RFK Junior, as a Democrat nominee

34:08

period be more formidable uh

34:10

and perhaps be able to beat Trumps?

34:16

You give your answer for My answer is yes,

34:19

and let me tell you why, RFK

34:22

Junior. If you are out there right now

34:24

listening to us, and let's say you're not a

34:26

diehard Trump person, RFK

34:29

Junior would give you.

34:30

A couple of things.

34:32

I mentioned COVID, I mentioned

34:34

the censorship complex. Heck,

34:37

he's the only person in the Democrat

34:39

party I've ever seen who said men

34:41

shouldn't compete against women and women's sports.

34:44

He has some border security

34:46

strong points. I think he

34:48

actually would have appeal for middle of the

34:50

road voters.

34:51

I asked you this off air.

34:53

Other than maybe implementing Trump

34:55

trade policies on China, I'm

34:58

not sure I can point to in thing that Biden

35:00

has done where I say,

35:03

you know what, that's a decent, moderate position.

35:06

This will get this, This will be an unpopular

35:08

position, but I think it is a reflection of the

35:10

truth.

35:11

I think that ending the war in Afghanistan was the

35:14

right move.

35:14

I think that the screwed up way that they

35:16

did it and the loss of life that was unnecessary

35:19

was awful, But overall,

35:22

we're not at war in Afghanistan anymore so, and

35:25

not getting out of there was the right call.

35:27

We should have been out of there a long time ago. That's

35:29

just the truth. We should have been out of there a long time. Trump

35:32

was trying to do it, so anyone who disagrees

35:34

with that, Trump was trying to do it for all and got us closer

35:36

to doing it, and told the Taliban, you

35:38

kill any of any of our guys, you know you're

35:41

gonna wake up to a moab on your front

35:43

lawn.

35:43

Not a lot of front lawns over there. But you get what I'm saying.

35:47

I'm just saying I've been a lot, have

35:50

a lot of picket fences and fences.

35:52

Yeah.

35:53

Not a lot of Australian labordoodles running

35:55

around happily in the uh you know, in the

35:57

barbecue area anyway.

35:59

Not a suburban pair, No, not

36:01

so much. So what do you think he'd be more

36:03

formidable?

36:03

Right?

36:04

You begrudgingly would have to acknowledge

36:06

as a Democrat nominee r K

36:08

Junior because he brings the choice.

36:10

He matches Biden for name recognition

36:13

with the Kennedy thing. He is

36:15

old but not Biden old, so that's

36:18

a big thing in his favor. I

36:20

think the problem is the Democrat establishment

36:22

would far rather have Biden as president,

36:25

not necessarily running, because he's

36:27

more malleable, because they can pull

36:29

the strings on the marionette with Biden, I

36:32

mean, you know, like almost literally like move

36:34

his arms around and it sounds like he's talking.

36:37

Whereas RFK Junior, I

36:39

think he does have his own ideas and I do think

36:41

he's a strong willed guy, so that

36:44

wildcard something they would want. But yes, theoretically,

36:46

Clay, I think you're at your your analysis

36:48

is sound on this one.

36:49

All Right, we come back. We'll talk a little

36:51

bit more about RFK Junior. Also one

36:53

year anniversary Covenant School shooting. I want

36:55

to talk about that too, next