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Hour Clay Anbuck kicks off now joined by our friend, Mr.
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Mark Simone, Mr. New York of 710 WOR.
1:49
He's on before us in
1:52
that market. We're honored to have such
1:54
a fantastic lead in and he's getting
1:56
amazing numbers there. Mr. Mark, good
1:58
to have you on, sir. Hey,
2:00
thanks. Thanks for all the nice words. We
2:04
are looking at some interesting stuff happening
2:06
in New York these days. That's probably
2:08
always true, but in the political sense,
2:10
particularly interesting stuff happening right now. I'm
2:14
just going to put this to you so we can
2:16
dive into it. Back in 2008, Barack Obama won New
2:19
York that year by a 26.9%
2:21
margin of victory. I'm
2:28
going to call it 27 points, which is a beat down for sure. I'm
2:35
looking right now, Mark, at the
2:37
latest Siena College polling,
2:39
which was just from a week
2:41
ago. The
2:44
polls all compiled here on
2:47
fivethirtyeight.com. They've got
2:50
in New York, Trump v. Biden,
2:52
Biden up seven points, Biden
2:54
up eight points. You
2:57
think something big is perhaps in the mix. What's
2:59
going on here? Is this going to be competitive?
3:03
No, I think Donald Trump's going to win New York. I don't
3:05
think it's going to be competitive. I think he'll win it. You've
3:08
got to remember, about 2008, McCain was, for
3:10
whatever reason, he wasn't a strong candidate. Turnout
3:13
for him was extremely low, so that's
3:15
not the best test. Now remember,
3:18
Ronald Reagan won New York
3:20
twice, twice. It can be done. I
3:22
know that's a long time ago, but Trump
3:24
is different from anybody else. He's beloved
3:26
in New York by a lot of
3:28
people. I know New
3:30
York City is the problem, but half
3:33
the voters are outside of New York City. He's got
3:35
them. Normally, he'd have
3:37
trouble in New York City, but a
3:39
lot of that Democratic base is secretly,
3:41
quietly moving over to Trump. People
3:44
that just don't like the crime anymore, they don't like it
3:47
out of control. He goes to
3:49
Harlem, where that bodega is, or
3:51
as Biden would say, that bodega. You're
3:54
piercing that bodega. Watch
3:57
the video. Everybody in the street is cheering him.
4:00
booze anywhere. He
4:02
goes to the construction site on Park Avenue.
4:04
But remember, it's working class guys, construction workers
4:06
who live in New York and
4:08
they're all cheering him and chanting for him. I think
4:10
he wins. I think he wins New York. All
4:13
right. I want to dive into this because this
4:15
is a bold prediction. I love bold predictions as
4:19
Buckwell knows, although I've lost on several of my
4:21
bold predictions here. I want to hit you with
4:23
a couple of fact patterns. Close
4:26
race just happened to be fair. 2022
4:28
governor's race.
4:30
Kathy Hochul, not very popular.
4:32
Lee Zeldin loses 53 to 47. So let me
4:35
ask you this question.
4:38
If Kathy Hochul and Lee Zeldin ran in
4:40
2024, in other words, if we
4:42
didn't have a midterm 2022
4:45
election, if they were on the ballot, I
4:48
presume you think Lee Zeldin would win
4:50
head to head against Kathy Hochul as
4:52
well, and that there's been a further
4:54
shift right word since he would have
4:57
lost by six points two years ago.
5:00
Yeah, I love Lee Zeldin. Great guy. He'd
5:02
be an excellent governor. He's not exactly the
5:04
most dynamic candidate in the world. And Hochul
5:06
had all that democratic momentum behind her. But
5:08
people have now seen her in office for
5:10
a few years and
5:12
she stinks. She's absolutely awful between
5:16
the congestion pricing, doing nothing about
5:18
this anti-Semitism all over the campuses,
5:21
doing nothing about inflation in
5:23
the state. Congestion pricing is
5:26
ridiculous. She sends the National
5:28
Guard into the subway to protect people.
5:30
There's crime down there. They have no
5:32
power in the subway to do anything.
5:35
So she decides they'll
5:37
inspect packages or bags
5:39
or I don't know any criminal
5:41
that brings luggage with them. They don't have briefcases. They
5:44
don't have purses. I don't know what
5:46
they're inspecting. So yeah, Zeldin could win
5:48
today. And I
5:51
really think Trump, you said he was seven, eight
5:53
points behind. That was the case in almost every
5:55
swing state. And he closed those gaps. He's good
5:57
at closing eight percent gaps. He'll do it in.
6:00
York. Okay, so if he wins New
6:02
York, this is going to be a landslide. Do you
6:04
agree with that? I mean, because he's not going to
6:06
lose Pennsylvania and win New York, right? He's not going
6:08
to lose Wisconsin and win New York. He's not going
6:10
to win New York and lose Michigan.
6:12
I mean, that would mean that he would sweep
6:14
through the Midwest. He might win Minnesota. What
6:17
you're saying is six months out, you think Trump
6:19
is not only going to win, he's going to
6:21
win comfortably by 10 o'clock Eastern on election night.
6:23
We would know who the, who the, that he
6:25
was the winner. Well, yeah,
6:27
I mean, who knows what the Democrats will pull,
6:29
but it's only going to get
6:31
better for Donald Trump and it's only
6:34
going to get worse for Joe Biden. Mentally, things
6:37
will come out. I
6:39
think these trials have had just the opposite
6:41
effect. Democrats intended people are starting to look
6:43
at these trials. I don't mean the MSNBC
6:46
crowd. I mean normal people and
6:48
they don't like the total perversion of
6:50
our justice system. They don't like any
6:52
of this. It's only going to get better for Trump. In
6:55
the summer you'll see momentum just accelerate. Do you
6:57
think Biden's going to debate, Mark? I'm sure you
7:00
saw today he said on another radio show, oh
7:02
yeah, I'll debate Trump. Trump's response
7:04
to it was no one really believes that, right? What do
7:06
you think? I
7:08
don't believe it. I mean, what was
7:10
the exact words? I'd be happy to. He's not saying
7:13
I'll do it. I'd be happy to. But
7:16
the staff, whoever will come up with a million
7:18
excuses not to do it. You notice Biden won't
7:20
talk to the New York Times, won't give them
7:22
an interview, won't give any real news organization an
7:25
interview, but he's happy to do Seth Meyers and
7:27
Howard Stern. What does that tell you
7:29
about his confidence? Yeah, no, there's clearly
7:31
a coddling of him in the media that goes
7:33
beyond even what we normally would expect. We're speaking
7:35
to Mark Simone, Mr. New York of 710-WOR in
7:38
NYC. So
7:40
you mentioned the trials, Mark. And Clay and I have
7:42
tried to do a little bit of jury
7:45
pool analysis, but also looking back
7:47
or taking a step back and
7:49
looking at the overall system in
7:51
New York City. Do you
7:53
have any faith that there might be somebody
7:55
on that jury who's just going to say,
7:57
this is too crazy? I can't go along
7:59
with you? this or do you think that it's kind
8:01
of a done deal and they might get a guilty verdict on
8:04
this? You
8:06
know, I don't have a lot of confidence. It's
8:09
a New York jury. It's a totally
8:11
over the top biased judge.
8:13
The only good news is the Harvey
8:15
Weinstein reversal was based on
8:17
all these things the judge did and
8:19
this judge in the Trump trial has
8:21
done exactly the same thing. So that
8:23
almost guarantees the reversal. Usually
8:26
the judge is looking at this and will ease up a little but
8:30
so far there's no crime alleged. The catch and
8:32
kill, perfectly legal. Biden did
8:34
the biggest catch and kill in history
8:36
when he had Facebook, Twitter, the biggest
8:39
publishers cover up the Hunter laptop scandal.
8:42
But you're right. You can never tell
8:44
what a jury will do. You
8:47
mentioned that again you think Trump's going
8:49
to win New York which would be
8:51
amazing and would be a lot of
8:53
fun to watch. Can you imagine the
8:55
panic that would ensue in MSNBC and
8:58
CNN? Because New York comes in
9:00
early and if you start seeing those
9:02
numbers and Biden is only up a couple
9:04
of points or Trump is within a couple
9:06
of points, what does the tally look like?
9:09
If you had 47% if I'm looking at this overall
9:14
in terms of turnout in 2022, do you think there's
9:17
going to be a massive turnout in the
9:20
New York election or do you think Biden's
9:22
just not getting out his base? Black
9:24
voters are moving on, Asian, Hispanic voters.
9:26
What does the coalition look like for
9:28
Trump if that were to happen? Yeah,
9:31
I think it's a good point. I think low
9:33
turnout for Biden and you don't usually get the
9:35
high Republican turnout in New York but you'll get
9:37
it this time because again
9:39
crime is a huge factor. Also
9:42
this anti-Semitism, this stuff
9:44
on the college campus, it's frightening a lot
9:46
of people, not just Jews but Christians,
9:49
Gentiles as well because this kind
9:51
of bigotry being tolerated
9:54
is frightening a lot of people and
9:56
just watch the perversion of the justice
9:59
system, the total. the disintegration of our
10:01
universities, the streets, everything is
10:03
just awful, the migrants everywhere. I
10:06
think you're going to see enormous Republican
10:08
turnout this time. Also, look at Long
10:10
Island, Nassau County, which is
10:12
a good barometer, the
10:14
county executive, the attorney general,
10:17
the Republicans swept in
10:19
Nassau County. It's a good indicator of
10:21
what's coming. Mark
10:24
Simone, everybody. Mark, appreciate you being with us. Thanks for
10:26
calling in from 710-WOR. Great
10:29
to have you as always. Thanks. I love
10:31
listening to you every day. Thanks,
10:33
man. Thanks so much. Clay, I just want to
10:35
say, you said it. You're
10:37
a bold prediction guy, but if
10:40
Trump wins New York, this is up there with
10:42
... You remember when some of
10:44
you do remember this, Ann Coulter
10:47
was on Bill Maher's show at the
10:49
very beginning of the 2016 cycle
10:52
primary, and they said, who do you think is going
10:54
to win? She said right on
10:56
camera. She stared right in the camera. The polls showed
10:58
him ahead. She said Donald Trump, and
11:00
they had to have her on later. That was a heck ... Whatever
11:03
you think, that was a heck of a call. If
11:05
Mark is right and Trump wins New York
11:07
the first time a Republican will have won
11:09
it since Ronald Reagan, we're going to have
11:11
to have him on for a little victory dance. I
11:14
think Trump will ... It's funny. He's
11:16
so ready to go that Trump will
11:18
win that me pointing out that he's
11:21
only behind, even by Democrat pollsters, six,
11:23
seven points. That's
11:27
a contested state if you really look at
11:29
it. Six or seven points looks like that's
11:31
up for grabs. It's not as
11:33
crazy. That's why I said Barack Obama won by almost 30
11:36
very different times now. Yeah,
11:38
and I think ... This is a good question,
11:40
because you guys out there listening can help us
11:43
with this. Is that the
11:45
boldest prediction in three years of us being
11:47
on the air? In terms of guests, I
11:49
know you and I have made bold predictions,
11:51
but I don't even think I've gone that
11:54
far in making a bold prediction about New
11:56
York, because it's not just if he's right.
11:59
Think about it. I've made some bold
12:01
predictions, many of them wrong, but
12:04
if you think about it, if
12:06
New York flips, that's why I
12:08
asked him. I mean, Pennsylvania, Michigan,
12:10
and Wisconsin are going to go
12:12
Trump. And then I
12:15
think Minnesota probably would, and I
12:17
think you would flip Virginia potentially.
12:19
You're talking about a land-wide style.
12:22
It's a total butt-kicking. There's no question about it because
12:24
you're not going to win New York and not win
12:26
Pennsylvania. You're not going to win New York and then
12:28
fail to win Pennsylvania and some of these other
12:31
key states. But I think that, look,
12:34
I mean, you've talked about predictions. I
12:36
thought Lee Zeldin was going to win, and maybe
12:38
that for governor, and that would
12:40
have been at least one repudiation
12:42
of a COVID lockdown lunatic governor,
12:44
unfortunately, it didn't end up happening.
12:48
But he made it close. And
12:50
New York, right after California, is the
12:52
biggest Democrat stronghold state that there is.
12:55
And that would even be a place
12:58
where you're going to, I think you're going
13:00
to see Republican members of Congress that are
13:02
doing well in New York. We would not
13:04
have the very thin, and some
13:06
of that is self-inflicted wounds by the Republicans
13:08
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13:11
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13:13
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13:16
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13:18
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13:20
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13:22
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13:26
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13:29
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13:31
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13:33
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13:36
flags everywhere. Everywhere we
13:39
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13:41
Cooperstown, New York, my kids couldn't get over it.
13:43
We were driving around, I mean, that is major
13:45
Trump territory. And what some Mark Simone just hit
13:47
on is, it's really, you win
13:49
in Manhattan. Remember, we had Lee Zeldin on,
13:52
and you win in Manhattan by limiting
13:54
the amount that Democrats can run up
13:57
the score. And I do
13:59
think that Manhattan ... and in the
14:01
New York City area, I don't
14:03
think that Biden's going to run up the
14:05
score. I think again it comes down to
14:07
these suburban moms, these suburban women, and maybe
14:09
they're not threatened in New York over the
14:12
abortion argument because it's easier to get
14:14
an abortion now I think in New York than it was
14:16
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14:18
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14:20
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14:22
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14:28
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14:38
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14:41
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14:43
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14:45
the law. People can
14:48
understand it there. Well, take some of your calls. I'm
14:50
wondering if anybody else, let's see if anybody else, Clay,
14:52
in New York wants to back Mark up
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beach. I tried to stay off the phone and stay
20:46
away from everything, but I was aware of the Biden
20:50
story about the cannibals. Wasn't there a band?
20:53
This is now just going back to my 80s. Wasn't
20:56
Fine Young Cannibals a band? Yeah,
20:58
right. That's a strange name for
21:00
a band now that you think about it, isn't
21:02
it? It's a weird thing. I don't
21:04
remember. It would be like the Thrifty Serial Killers
21:06
or something. That's a strange thing to call yourself.
21:09
I don't remember their song, but the Fine
21:11
Young Cannibals had She Drives Me Crazy. Oh,
21:14
that was a huge song. Ooh, yeah. But
21:16
no one... Yeah, you get it. You get
21:18
it. Ali on the ball there, the Fine
21:20
Young Cannibals, yeah, they had that monster hit
21:22
She Drives Me Crazy, which is still, I
21:24
think, kind of iconic. That's a good song.
21:28
I know that song. There's
21:31
a good song. I know that song. Ooh, that's
21:33
a good song. ined
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by B Accelerator
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on it. She
21:53
drives me crazy. Which is still, I think, kind of
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my con It's a good song. I'd rock out to
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Everybody knows this song. This was
23:10
a huge hit in the 80's.
23:13
Huge hit in the 80's, 88, 89 something
23:15
like that. I think it was on the
23:17
Pretty Woman soundtrack. Not that I had that
23:20
CD. I'm just saying. That's a pretty woman
23:22
soundtrack. Yeah, true story.
23:25
You know I stayed at the Pretty Woman Hotel. It's a
23:27
very offensive movie and I don't call things offensive very often
23:30
but if you actually watch that movie it's a
23:32
really like bizarre depressing
23:34
weird movie. Sky picks up
23:36
a hooker on like Rodeo Drive and
23:39
Pazer for the week and then the
23:41
whole thing is very weird. Take Sir
23:43
the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. That's the hotel
23:45
they put everybody who stays and for
23:47
work at Fox Sports in LA. It
23:50
used to be. I don't know if it still is. That
23:53
place is still filled with hookers.
23:56
Like high-end hookers. But if you
23:58
go into the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. People
24:00
just dress a little differently in LA than
24:02
they do in Tennessee, Clay. It's Hookers. The
24:05
first time I ever went, I'd never seen anything like it. It
24:07
was like Beverly Hillbillies. I sat down to get
24:09
a beer after I'd done television and
24:12
at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel, I
24:15
noticed it's all girls at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel
24:17
bar. And I'm like, that seems a little weird.
24:19
And I'm like, whatever, you know, just give me
24:21
a beer, finish it up
24:23
my day. And then I
24:25
like, I noticed, and maybe if you're incredibly
24:27
good looking, this happens to you all the
24:29
time, most women don't stare at
24:31
men or at least they don't stare at me.
24:35
Every woman at the whole bar is looking at me
24:37
and I'm like, this is kind of a weird vibe.
24:40
And then they don't look away. Most
24:42
women would look away if you make eye
24:44
contact and the bartender came over and I
24:46
was like, are all these, these are all
24:48
like, these are all hookers, right? He was
24:50
like, yeah, they just, it's super high end
24:52
hookers. It's all connected to
24:54
that movie is what I was told.
24:58
That movie was so popular, Pretty Woman,
25:00
that everybody wants to get their own
25:02
Julia Roberts, that bar, and I'm
25:05
probably blowing up the Beverly Wilshire right now. I don't
25:07
know if it's still an issue, but
25:09
they would still, they would flood the
25:11
Beverly Wilshire Hotel with hookers because of
25:13
the Pretty Woman connection, which I wasn't
25:15
anticipating because I didn't know we were
25:17
going to be playing the Fine Young
25:19
Cannibals. Is that really on
25:22
the soundtrack or the Pretty Woman? Yes,
25:24
yes, yes. Did you buy the Pretty Woman
25:26
soundtrack? No, but I've,
25:29
I've looked for this song before
25:31
on like different Spotify and stuff and
25:33
it will come up as on the Pretty Woman soundtrack.
25:36
I did not actually own the Pretty Woman. I did buy
25:38
a, do you want to do
25:40
this? You want to get into this? What's the most embarrassing
25:43
album you've ever bought? I
25:46
mean, I bought a cassette tape of Salt and Pepper.
25:50
That was actually pretty popular. I think I probably
25:52
had that. Popular time, but in retrospect, like wasn't
25:55
great. One of
25:57
my buddies bought Kevin Campbell's.
26:00
CD. Do you remember Tevin Campbell? I
26:02
don't even know what that is. Tevin Campbell was
26:04
like a black
26:06
teenage singer back in the day.
26:08
I had crisscross, which
26:11
I loved. Crisscross will make you jump. Do
26:13
you remember that song? That was classic. This
26:15
is a humble brag. Everybody had crisscross in
26:18
our age range. Tevin Campbell was on the
26:20
babyface, might have been on the list of
26:22
music that you didn't necessarily want to admit
26:24
to. Mariah Carey,
26:27
she was very popular but for a man or a young
26:29
man, I don't know that you could go with. This
26:32
is a really good question. What was the
26:34
most embarrassing album you owned? Or
26:37
single? Because you used to be able to
26:39
back in the day, you'd go into Camelot
26:41
music, you'd buy the single, which
26:43
was the cassette tape single, which was a big
26:45
deal before all the iTunes, all you kids out
26:48
there with your easy ability. I did go through
26:50
a little savage garden phase. Do you even remember
26:52
them? I remember the name. They were like
26:54
Australian? Oh, I don't know. I
26:56
want to stand with you on the mountain. I want to be
26:58
with you. I'm not going to sing because that's going to make
27:00
everyone change the stage. Oh, I remember that song. Yeah,
27:03
I'll give you my answer probably most
27:05
embarrassing. I had Color Me Bad's album.
27:07
Do you remember Color Me Bad?
27:10
I Adore Me Amore? Yeah, sure.
27:14
I think that's probably, that's up. Color
27:16
Me Bad spelled with two D's. Probably
27:20
not at the, oh,
27:22
I had Millie Vanilli. I had Millie
27:24
Vanilli before we knew that Millie Vanilli was all
27:26
made up. That's a collector's item though. That's amazing.
27:28
Now you probably get a lot of money for
27:30
that on eBay. Blame It on the Rain classic.
27:32
I don't know who's saying it. Blame
27:35
It on the Rain great song by
27:37
Millie Vanilli. I had the Millie Vanilli
27:39
entire album back in the day. Yeah,
27:41
I also, what's the big deal? People got
27:43
all upset about it. It's like, guess what?
27:46
All these people that are writing books, Clay
27:48
and Buck accepted, most
27:50
of them don't write a word of their books. It's
27:53
okay. You pay someone to write a book, so they paid
27:55
someone to write the backup, or not the backup, the main
27:57
vocals. I don't know. I think it's kind
27:59
of funny. funny where we draw the lines on these things.
28:01
All right, do we have important business to do? Peppa
28:03
was the good looking one and Salt was kind of
28:06
the bigger one, right? I don't want to throw them
28:08
under the bus if they're listening here. One of the
28:10
Salt and Peppa girls was good looking.
28:13
The other one not as good looking. That's fair to say,
28:15
right? I legit haven't done it in
28:17
a number. I'm not trying to defer on this. I don't know. I
28:20
think Salt was the good looking one. It's possible
28:22
that I'm getting them backwards. I'm
28:24
just imagining Salt and Peppa like they're just getting
28:26
in their car in New York. They've
28:29
gone all in on Trump.
28:32
Prior to now, they've been huge fans of
28:34
Clay and Buck. I just obliterated one of
28:36
them by saying she was the unattractive one.
28:38
I'm not sure which one she was. He
28:40
was unattractive. She was not as good looking
28:42
as the other one. Back in
28:44
the day, Beyonce was way better looking than
28:46
the rest of the Destiny's Child girls, right?
28:49
Justin Timberlake was way better looking than the rest
28:52
of the dudes, right? There was usually one- There
28:54
was no other guy who was kind of ...
28:56
I mean, I think we're being ... There was another ...
29:00
I legitimately get Backstreet Boys and Insink
29:02
confused. He was an NSYNC, right? Timberlake?
29:05
Yes. I don't know who the most famous ... I think all the
29:07
Backstreet Boys, none of them became
29:09
famous, right? None of them was solo.
29:12
I think that's right. Some of them were
29:15
actually ugly. Joey Fatone was legitimately an ugly
29:17
dude who happened to be a boy baby.
29:19
Clay is a Friday and Clay's just throwing
29:21
haymakers in the last few minutes of the
29:23
show here. Your mentions on
29:25
Twitter. You bet Joey Fatone's probably on X. He's
29:27
probably going to have something to say to you.
29:30
Well, a tough break, by the way, to have
29:32
the Italian name that actually is just Fatone and
29:34
be a little bit chubby in the boy band.
29:36
I mean, that feels like just a really unfortunate
29:38
combo. Maybe change the
29:41
name so that you're not the chubby guy whose
29:43
last name is Fatone. I mean, it just doesn't
29:45
seem like a good move. Was
29:47
Dave Matthews the single most iconic band of
29:49
your peer group growing up? Would you say
29:51
that's correct? Because for me, it would be
29:53
Dave Matthews band was the thing that everybody
29:55
listened to. Yeah, that's a
29:58
good question. I mean, I think it depends on if you were the... the
30:00
hacky sack playing pot
30:02
smoking kind of what's
30:05
it say? Dave Matthews is South African, right? You're the
30:07
kind of person who would go to like University
30:10
of Virginia back in the day. Like he
30:12
got big in Charlottesville, the UVA that mean.
30:14
I just want to know what the team
30:16
was pointing out to me that I did
30:19
in fact pronounce it correctly. It
30:21
is not salt and pepper. It is salt.
30:23
Peppa. Peppa. Yeah.
30:26
P-E-P-A in case anyone wanted to know. Allie, which one was
30:28
the good looking one? Allie's
30:31
not going to answer that. Allie will know.
30:34
It is either salt or pepper was the good looking one. I don't
30:36
think it was confusing. Oh Clay, you put me on the spot like
30:38
this. I have no idea. Maybe
30:41
Peppa. Peppa, just because I want
30:44
to say that. Yeah, I have no idea which
30:46
one was better looking. But I know that Joey
30:48
Fatone, Joey Fatone was the ugly one in the
30:50
back. Sorry Joey, in the backstreet boys. We're
30:53
talking to kids on the block. Don't we
30:56
have? The fuck is leaving now
30:58
by the way? There's no telling how this show
31:00
is going to end. He's got to go to
31:02
the airport in Raleigh. That's true. I'm leaving you
31:04
in Clay's hands. Clay's in a mischievous, no, a
31:06
mischievous. See someone told us not
31:08
to say it wrong. A mischievous mood. I
31:11
like mischievous better. It sounds like, is it
31:13
supposed to be pronounced mischievous? Mischievous. Yeah,
31:15
I'm going to stick with mischievous. I've been pronouncing it too long
31:17
for too long. This is the kind
31:20
of mood he's in. He's going to antagonize the
31:22
grammar police and the pronunciation police out there. That's
31:25
true. The Joey Fat one, he could have
31:27
used more chalk in his life. He
31:29
could have used a little bit of testosterone. Maybe it would
31:31
have burned off a few of the calories. So
31:34
he wasn't the ugliest of the backstreet boys. Maybe
31:37
his life would be different. Maybe he would be
31:39
a modern day Justin Timberlake. Maybe somebody from the
31:41
backstreet boys would have gone triple
31:43
platinum or whatever you go when you go
31:45
solo and you have a great deal of
31:47
success like Beyonce, like Justin Timberlake. Could
31:50
have been all the difference he needed
31:52
was a little bit more energy, vitality,
31:54
vim, maybe
31:56
he could have been a difference maker. Speaking of
31:58
him and vigor. Do you know that they
32:00
are now, I talked about this to start the show,
32:03
Joe Biden is so bad at walking
32:07
that they are trying to hide
32:09
his inability to walk without
32:11
looking like an old man.
32:14
They changed his tennis shoes. They
32:16
now are surrounding him, a
32:19
cadre of followers to try to
32:21
keep you from seeing how incompetent
32:23
and lacking in energy and virility
32:25
he is when he walks to
32:28
the helicopter. That
32:30
is the truth. You don't want to be
32:32
like that. You don't want to waddle. You don't
32:34
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32:36
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33:01
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33:03
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33:05
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We're number one. We appreciate all of you listening in
36:12
North Carolina. Even
36:15
if there were fake singers, the songs were
36:17
still good. Point
36:19
of correction. We've got a couple of them here. Wide
36:23
variety. Evidently,
36:26
Joey Fatwone was in NSYNC, not
36:28
Backstreet Boys. I apologize to all
36:31
the boy band aficionados out there.
36:34
I actually think that burnishes my street cred
36:36
that I got that wrong. That's one that's
36:38
good to get wrong. Unlike yesterday
36:40
when I got the year that FDR died and
36:42
where he died, I got Powder Springs
36:44
and Warm Springs, Georgia mixed up and I had to
36:46
issue a correction on that one. That one I wasn't
36:49
impressed by. Also,
36:53
I think that there is another element here.
36:56
Joe Biden, as a part
36:58
of his Howard Stern story, told a ton of lies.
37:01
Ali, you sent me a story
37:03
about Joe Biden's athletic career and
37:06
Yahoo Sports reported that he did end
37:08
up with the third most
37:10
touchdowns in his district or
37:12
in his division or something in Delaware.
37:15
He said he came in second, but
37:17
that part of his story, unlike saving
37:20
all the people's lives and getting arrested
37:22
for opposing segregation,
37:26
all of that may or may not be
37:28
true. Seems unlikely, but he at least was
37:30
a wide receiver who scored several touchdowns as
37:32
a senior, just to be fair. I
37:36
saw this story that
37:39
has gone viral and I thought it's
37:41
a Good Friday story potentially.
37:45
A woman who confronted a
37:48
teenager at a
37:50
Utah steakhouse about
37:52
her mini skirt being too short
37:56
has been charged with sexual
37:58
battery for trying to
38:00
pull the girl's skirt
38:02
down longer because
38:04
she said, your ass
38:07
cheeks are hanging out. This
38:10
is evidently all over the Internet.
38:13
It's been hugely controversial. A
38:15
48-year-old woman in St. George,
38:18
Utah was standing in
38:20
line for a steakhouse, Sakura
38:23
Japanese Steakhouse in St. George,
38:25
Utah this past weekend. Everything
38:29
fell apart. She said the skirt was too
38:31
short. Allie,
38:34
have you ever been ... I'm going to bring
38:36
you in as the woman because I've got a
38:38
ridiculous story here. I was at Gondolier
38:41
Restaurant in
38:43
East Tennessee near
38:45
where my in-laws live on Watts
38:47
Bar Lake. I swear
38:49
to you, I was standing in line to
38:51
go eat at Gondolier Restaurant. This is not
38:54
a high-end establishment. Good place to eat. I've
38:56
eaten there a bunch. It's
38:58
like an Italian version of like IHOP or something
39:00
like that. I don't even know if it's a
39:02
chain. I'm standing in
39:05
line there. There's a little bit of a weight and
39:08
a woman, like mom-aged
39:11
woman, got into
39:13
it with a teenage girl she didn't
39:15
know as we were all standing
39:17
in line. I wasn't involved in either party. I
39:19
was there, I believe, with my kids. They
39:23
started yelling at each other about whether the
39:25
girls ... I think it was her top
39:28
was showing too much boob
39:30
cleavage. I just thought
39:32
to myself, oh my God, I'm going to be
39:35
in this situation. These two were
39:37
close to getting in a fight, like an
39:39
actual fight over this girl's top. I
39:42
didn't know what to do because all I
39:44
could think was somehow I'm going to get
39:46
blamed because I just
39:48
happened to be there when these
39:50
two women start fighting over their dress code.
39:53
I was trying to think through what should I
39:55
do. Should I say anything? Should I just leave?
39:57
Get out of the restaurant as fast as I
39:59
can? And so somehow I don't end up in this
40:01
story. Allie, you are of
40:04
a mom age now. That's
40:06
not an insult, that's a fair assessment.
40:09
You're out in New York City now a lot.
40:11
Have you ever thought to yourself while
40:14
waiting in a restaurant, what
40:16
that girl restaurant line or at
40:18
a restaurant, what that girl is
40:20
wearing is super inappropriate, somebody should
40:22
say something to her. Has that
40:24
thought ever gone through your mind?
40:26
Clay, living in New York City, the number of
40:29
times I've wanted to tell someone to pull up their
40:31
pants, if you know what I mean? No,
40:34
you just don't say anything. You walk,
40:36
well you in particular, I would
40:38
just say, backs away. I've
40:40
never said anything to any woman about
40:42
her clothing ever. And I bet there
40:44
are a ton of men listening right
40:46
now who work in
40:49
places where there are dress codes. I
40:52
don't ever have any idea what is appropriate
40:54
for a woman to be wearing into an
40:56
office setting. On
40:58
top of that, I would never say
41:00
if I thought it was inappropriate because
41:02
somehow that would end up being my
41:05
fault. Similarly, I've been married for almost
41:07
20 years. I've
41:09
never told my wife correctly what she
41:11
should wear to any event, yet I
41:13
am asked every event that we go
41:15
to, what should I
41:17
wear? And I never know the
41:19
answer. The question, does this outfit
41:21
make me look fat, is never
41:24
one you can answer and it's never one
41:27
that should be asked. Women should not ask
41:29
the question, men don't answer. Can
41:31
Gerard tell, that's certainly true. Does this dress
41:33
make me look fat? The answer is always
41:35
no, even if the answer is actually yes.
41:38
Right. Has Gerard ever been
41:41
able to accurately tell you what
41:43
is appropriate to wear to an event? Yeah,
41:46
he's actually pretty open with me. He'll be
41:48
honest with me about it. I
41:50
don't even know. I'm not being like crazy
41:53
here. I wear jeans and
41:56
like a jacket and a button down to
41:58
almost anything that I attend. men from a
42:00
wedding to like a dinner.
42:03
I mean I don't ever really dress that much
42:06
different, but women they know these
42:08
subtle cues about what is not appropriate.
42:10
I've got no idea even after 20
42:12
years of being asked. Yeah,
42:15
yeah. In the
42:17
case that you're talking about with the two women fighting
42:19
in the restaurant, you back away. When
42:22
it comes to your significant other
42:24
friend partner, it's okay to tell
42:26
them, give a little advice, some
42:28
tips. I think
42:30
that's fine, but it
42:33
all depends, I guess is the answer. It depends.
42:37
It definitely depends. Don't put your hands
42:39
on anybody. My advice is
42:41
unless it's your kid or
42:44
one of your kid's close friends, you
42:47
should probably never get involved in deciding whether
42:49
somebody's wearing something appropriate. Absolutely not. Even if
42:51
you think they should pull their pants up
42:53
walking down the street, you don't go up
42:55
and pull their pants up for them. I
42:57
was at an event, this is a funny line, I was
42:59
at an event recently, I've got teenage
43:01
boys and there were the girls and boys that
43:04
go into a dance or whatever. I
43:06
walked in to pick up the kids and
43:08
the moms were all sitting around drinking wine.
43:10
I was the dad there. I
43:13
walked in and one of the moms said, I
43:15
just don't even know what girls
43:17
are wearing these days. She
43:20
said, I wouldn't have worn some of these
43:22
dresses that these girls have tonight for the
43:24
dance at my wedding night. And I was
43:26
like, I'm glad you said it, not me.
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