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haven't been on. We're down to

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number five even news right now, so

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you know, you get a little bit of a bump down.

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So I hadn't checked it all weekend,

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so we're hanging tough inside the

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top five in news, but we still

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Yeah, I texted you like we had almost

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caught NPR, and I have noticed. One of

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we pass them, it's going to be

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all of our crew then has the opportunity to

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download and get our show, which doesn't

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the country, because that is the that is the

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massive audio army that

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we bring to this every single day. Now,

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in the last hour, Clan, I were talking to you a little bit

2:08

about antipatriotism

2:11

from the left, which only really seems to exist

2:14

on the left. It is a problem of the Democrat

2:16

Party, of the socialist

2:18

and even Marxist mindset in America.

2:21

But it's certainly not everyone

2:24

on the left, and it's certainly not everyone

2:26

from any community. In fact,

2:28

there were some people. I want to give some

2:31

some focus here to those who will speak

2:33

out in favor of

2:35

patriotism. I mean George Foreman, just to

2:37

give you one example of this, George

2:40

Foreman tweeted out for about fifty four years.

2:42

People have asked me not to

2:44

keep saying I love America. Well

2:46

I do, and I'm not ashamed. Don't

2:49

leave it. Love it. Happy Fourth

2:51

of July to

2:54

me, Clay. It's that that you don't have

2:56

this from Look, if people don't want

2:58

to tweet, that's fine. But but for many athlete

3:00

from any you know, famous, incredibly

3:02

successful, multi millionaire

3:05

American that this would

3:07

not be the sentiment over this weekend is in

3:10

a sense I find kind of offensive. I

3:12

mean, they're a loud. It is America. You can say whatever you want.

3:15

But I think we all seem to point out people like George Foreman

3:17

who clearly say I love America,

3:19

always have, always will, and that's the way it's gonna

3:22

be. And don't try to tell me what I'm supposed

3:24

to say. I love it. I

3:26

agree with him. What I would also say

3:29

about this Buck that is so interesting is it

3:31

would be one thing if you are

3:34

a left winger and you are

3:36

angry about America and therefore

3:38

you're trying to detegrate the United States flag?

3:41

What are they so angry about? They somehow

3:43

managed to get Joe Biden drug across

3:45

the finish line into office. They

3:48

have control of the United States Senate

3:50

right now, Nancy Pelosi

3:52

is the Speaker of the House. Should

3:55

it they be celebrating America because

3:57

their version of the American

4:00

experience is actually being

4:02

ratified based on the most recent

4:04

election. This, to me is is the flagrant

4:07

flaw. I think of their argument, they

4:10

really can't be satisfied. And this is the

4:12

one that I think Trump got

4:14

one hundred billion percent right. Do you remember

4:17

Buck when he came out and the Charlottesville protest

4:19

happened, and the left wingers

4:21

and the media completely basically

4:24

sold a false bill of goods

4:27

to the American people about what Trump said, and in

4:29

fact, Joe Biden even used Charlottesville

4:31

as evidence for why he needed to run for president.

4:34

But if they lied about what he said, right, just that

4:36

they lied about what he said. They lied about what he

4:38

said, and a lot of people still believe that lie

4:41

because they haven't actually gone back and even

4:43

paid attention to what was said. So Joe

4:45

Biden's entire basis for his

4:47

campaign was founded in a lie. But

4:50

at least if you were going to be negative

4:52

about America when Donald Trump

4:55

was president, even though I don't think that is

4:57

a legitimate perspective to take. What's

4:59

iron here, Buck is, if anything,

5:02

the people who have a reason to be

5:04

angry at America right now would

5:06

be conservatives, right because half

5:09

of America doesn't really believe we had a fair

5:11

and full election. You ended

5:13

up with the situation in Georgia

5:15

where now you have a fifty fifty Senate

5:18

tiebreaker with Kamala Harris. Nancy

5:21

Pelosi hung on by her by

5:24

her fingernails to power as the speaker,

5:27

if anything, and then we've had all these

5:29

COVID lockdowns that have been going on for the last

5:31

year. Buck If anything, the people

5:33

who have a reason to be angry at

5:35

America are Republicans,

5:38

are conservatives. Yet these

5:40

are the people, even having had the

5:42

slings and arrows of the election fortune

5:45

go against them, who are choosing

5:47

to embrace Americas. That there's an

5:49

irony there. Right, even when

5:51

things are not going your way, you still

5:54

love the country. And even when the left wingers

5:56

are getting pretty much everything they wanted,

5:59

they're still angry at the country. When your

6:02

real goal is power,

6:04

you'll never have enough. And when you

6:06

look at the left today, the Democrat

6:09

Party, and what the

6:11

undergirding ideals may

6:14

be, or what the principles are that they

6:16

occasionally espouse, they constantly shift,

6:18

but they change. It really is all just

6:20

a mechanism and apparatus for the attainment

6:24

and utilization of power. That's what motivates

6:26

Democrats say, That's why they're so comfortable with fauciism

6:29

and authoritarianism in the

6:32

bureaucracy of the federal government. That's why they're

6:34

so comfortable at being told what to do. They're obedient.

6:36

The left likes to be obedient as long as they feel

6:39

like their people are in power, right, as

6:41

long as those who share their ideology, then

6:43

everyone becomes a collectivist and they

6:45

do as they're told. And so I bring this

6:47

Upclay, because we are the

6:49

problem. Right half the country remains

6:52

the problem for them that they don't

6:54

they overpromise, and this is

6:56

always the case about the left. It's true

6:59

about politicians in general, but the left

7:01

wildly overpromises what they'll be able to accomplish,

7:04

and then it always turns into just blaming

7:06

the half the country that has always said we're

7:08

not going to go along with this stuff, like we don't

7:10

believe in the Green New Deal. We didn't, then

7:13

we don't. Now we oppose you. We think there's a

7:15

bad idea. But even in cases

7:17

where they get what they want and it fails,

7:20

And this brings me to defund the police. Now,

7:22

they didn't get it everywhere, but they have it in enough

7:24

places where there's a clear

7:27

experiment that has been running. What happens when you

7:29

defund police? They've gotten it. And

7:32

you know what they're saying. Now, either

7:34

the stats are misleading or

7:37

it's too early to tell. Or we

7:39

didn't defund properly. And

7:41

the craziest of all is

7:44

that actually they want to fund

7:46

that that Democrats are the fund the police

7:48

party and get more. We'll get more to that later, but they

7:50

always want to have it both ways.

7:53

And that's something that I think is a thread

7:55

that runs through the Democrat

7:57

approach to all of these issues. I mean, they'll

7:59

they'll talk about freedom. The fallback

8:02

when it comes to antipatriotism from the left

8:05

is, well, it's America's you're allowed to say these

8:07

things. Okay, yeah, you're allowed to say

8:09

them. But these are the same people, generally

8:11

speaking, who are very in favor of

8:13

cancel culture, which they've now renamed

8:16

accountability culture. So explain

8:19

to me. You know, if you're a professional athlete,

8:21

you're a movie star, you're a member of Congress,

8:23

and you take the equivalent

8:26

of America's birthday as an opportunity

8:28

to spit on America.

8:31

No accountability culture there. Oh no. The First

8:33

Amendment, Yeah, the First Remement says the government can't lock

8:36

you up. It doesn't say that we shouldn't vote you

8:38

out of office or stop buying your products. And

8:41

this is what I was building on Buck and This

8:43

is one of the things that I worry about, and I think it's

8:45

a worthy discussion on this day. Trump

8:48

at Charlottesville said this doesn't stop

8:50

with Confederate statues because what's really

8:52

under attack, and I think he's correct about this

8:55

is American history itself and

8:58

in fact, and it didn't get as much as engine

9:00

as maybe it should. But the DC mayor

9:03

basically endorsed the idea of tearing

9:05

down the Washington Monument Muriel Bowser

9:08

also Lincoln Memorial, Jefferson

9:11

Memorial. Trump talked about this to some

9:13

extent, and we saw last

9:15

summer as all of these protests

9:18

raged, they were pulling down statues

9:20

of anybody, basically Lulysses,

9:22

Grant, Abraham Lincoln to

9:24

facing everything. And I wonder

9:27

whether this has moved on from

9:29

initially the Confederate flag. Oh,

9:31

it's completely unacceptable, right, that was

9:33

the argument that was made. Now

9:36

we're seeing a pivot. The New York

9:38

Times is now saying the American flag

9:40

itself is not acceptable. July

9:43

fourth is the next target. Right,

9:45

it already is squarely in the sights.

9:48

This is an unacceptable day because

9:50

go look at who drafted the Declaration

9:52

of Independence, Go look at who

9:55

signed the Constitution. There's too

9:57

many white guys. We can't celebrate

10:00

something that involves white men. And

10:02

what would they replace

10:05

all of this with. There's a fascinating

10:07

discussion we had here as well. On the one hand,

10:10

we're establishing that they have no limiting principle

10:12

on this rewriting of history and that

10:14

it'll just keep going and consuming

10:17

all aspects of our shared Americana

10:19

Because I mean, if you really want to be super

10:21

woke, you know you're

10:23

going to find that people that you even like in

10:26

history aren't acceptable until a

10:28

couple of years ago, right, Because until you're ready

10:30

to have transgender individuals

10:32

sharing bathrooms and doing all

10:34

the things that the left now demands, there's always

10:37

basis for cancelation from wokeness.

10:39

But but even without taking it to that logical

10:42

extreme, because they always will take it to the extreme.

10:45

That's what incrementalism and progressivism

10:47

is all about. What do we replace all

10:49

this with what then becomes

10:51

our shared American experience?

10:53

I mean the constant, the constant

10:55

gnashing of teeth and crying and whining

10:58

about how we were an imperfect country in the past.

11:00

It's also worth noting that in

11:02

essence, this destroys

11:04

individual accountability and morality

11:06

because it all becomes collective guilt. And

11:09

then you have if everyone is if everyone is

11:11

guilty of something that they haven't done, but we're

11:13

just told that we are. Then how do

11:16

we get beyond that? What are the actions that

11:18

we're supposed to take? And that's

11:20

where this all. Who do we replace these

11:23

statues with or what ideas? Even

11:26

do we replace what we celebrate over

11:28

Independence Day weekend? And then

11:30

what are we supposed to do about all of this? What

11:33

is to be done? Well? I think one thing

11:35

that'll start to happen is now that Juneteenth

11:37

is a national holiday. I think

11:39

that there are leftists who will say we're

11:42

going to celebrate Juneteenth and not July fourth.

11:45

And I think what has to happen with cancel

11:47

culture? By the way, is you point out that

11:49

no one historically, even of

11:52

recent historical vintage, is

11:54

perfect based on the standards of twenty first

11:56

century America. I'll give you an example. I

11:58

went to a high school named after Martin Luther King Junior.

12:01

He had all sorts of awful

12:03

things to say about gay people.

12:05

In fact, he said that homosexuality

12:08

was a psychological illness in

12:10

a written piece giving advice to somebody

12:13

who was saying that they were they

12:15

were attracted to the same sex. He said, that's a psychological

12:18

illness. You should go get treatment.

12:20

That was not an uncommon position in the

12:23

nineteen fifties. If any

12:25

political leader said that today, they

12:27

would be in danger of cancelation. So

12:30

what I believe is going to have to happen is

12:32

if people are intellectually honest, they're

12:35

going to have to recognize that all of our leaders

12:37

have feats of clay, that all of them are imperfect

12:39

because they are humans, and also that

12:41

all them are products of the culture in which they lived.

12:44

And so my fear is

12:46

that again I come back to the point

12:49

we're talking about to start this hour. If

12:51

anything, if you were being honest,

12:54

you have the presidency, you have the House, you

12:56

have the Senate. Why would you not say

12:58

America's a glorious place right

13:00

now? Yet the people who are angry

13:02

are the people in power, and the people

13:04

who are celebrating America are the people who feel

13:06

like, in many ways they got screwed in twenty twenty.

13:08

Because the leftist mindset is that you

13:11

and I and all of our friends listening

13:13

right now, all across the country are

13:15

standing in the way of utopia.

13:18

If only we would cave, if

13:21

only we would stop whatever opposition

13:23

we have, then they would achieve

13:25

the perfect society that the Democrats,

13:27

socialists and the leftist believed they can have.

13:30

And that's where so they just funnel all

13:32

the bitterness in the victimology

13:35

and the nonsense, because you're right, a

13:37

well adjusted person would say, we got

13:39

our way. Shouldn't things be pretty good now? But everything

13:41

that we wanted? Maybe I could be a little bit

13:43

more supportive of America. You can't blame Donald

13:45

Trump for anything. Now, I want to bring back

13:48

in a second here will come back into a

13:50

representative Byron Donald's a response

13:52

to that Corey Bush tweet about

13:55

how America's racist is the short

13:57

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13:59

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15:19

through with us breaking down everything

15:23

in the world of basically

15:26

craziness over the course of

15:28

the weekend that was

15:31

surrounding July fourth. But

15:34

in the grand scheme of things, we're

15:36

gonna let some of the responses

15:38

out there, Buck, that we saw rolling

15:41

into Corey Bush, who

15:43

is a congresswoman from Missouri

15:45

and chose July fourth to basically

15:48

attack America. Unfortunately, but

15:51

there were some good responses here.

15:54

Let's play seven, Mike, Black

15:56

people are free in America. That is

15:58

what has happened since eighteen sixty

16:00

five. That is a state of play in twenty

16:03

twenty one America. So I look at her

16:05

tweet, I shake my head. I don't agree,

16:07

And to be truthful, most black people

16:09

just don't agree with that, and most people don't agree

16:11

with that. We live in the greatest country in the world.

16:14

More black people have accomplished and achieved

16:16

more wealth here in the United States than any other

16:18

country in the world. We should actually celebrate

16:21

that and celebrate, frankly, the birth

16:23

of the greatest nation man's ever known. I'll

16:26

think, so let's go ahead and play number eight here,

16:28

Buck, because that's also another strong response.

16:30

I agree with you. I think that Day should ask her about

16:33

what Corey said. They should ask President

16:35

Biden about what Corey said. You know, I find

16:37

it interesting that Republicans are always having to

16:39

answer questions about what one of our members

16:41

said they should be having to answer questions about

16:44

what Corey said yesterday. Everybody

16:46

knows it is outlandish, It is ridiculous.

16:48

That tweet just makes no sense at all. It

16:50

flies in the face of the reality that the

16:53

vast majority of Americans, frankly all Americans see

16:55

every single day. Now eloquent

16:58

well put well stated he gets into couple

17:00

of things here, though. One is one

17:02

he first of all, I mean, he just said it so well about

17:04

the reality of how successful

17:07

you know, black Americans have been, and anyway,

17:10

it's just very eloquently put by Byron Donalds.

17:12

But the second point about I mean, can

17:14

you imagine if this were I know, we always

17:16

do this thing. Can you imagine if this was a Republican But for

17:18

a second, if you had a Republican tweet out

17:20

something that's effectively defamatory

17:23

about the United States or you know, that's meant

17:25

to undermine our sense of the greatness

17:27

of this country. Don't you think the media

17:29

would ask a Republican president about

17:32

that? Don't you think they would end percent?

17:34

Yes, yeah, every single

17:36

time buck anybody says anything, how

17:39

many people have gotten asked about their opinion on

17:41

Liz Cheney, even though Liz Cheney doesn't even

17:43

remotely register here. And here's what I would

17:45

say too. To me, this is

17:47

flagrantly wrong when you look

17:49

at the larger context, Buck, because

17:51

people from Africa, Asia, Latin

17:54

America, all over the world are

17:56

literally dying to get here. If

17:59

this country were terribly racist, would

18:01

everybody be trying to get here so desperately? I

18:03

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I am Buck, he is Clay. We are breaking

19:18

down all of the latest

19:20

for all of you, including this

19:22

ongoing conversation. Because it is July fifth,

19:25

we just had well today's the federal

19:27

holiday, of course, Clay and are still working though, because

19:29

that's how that's how we do That's how we

19:31

get it done. And we have a

19:34

moment here we're wondering, why is it that

19:37

not only do you have you have some

19:39

some Democrats out there publicly,

19:41

but a lot of public figures and celebrities

19:44

who clearly think it is advantageous

19:48

to dump on America over

19:50

Independence Day weekend? Mind you, Why why

19:52

is that something that's happening in this

19:54

country? And also is there something

19:57

to be taken from the fact that you know, we're not allowed

20:00

to have immigration policies

20:02

and borders in this country, according to the left. Every

20:04

other country, France, Japan, you

20:06

know, find a country they're allowed to have borders

20:09

and immigration controls. If you talk about

20:11

that in America, the left wants you to know

20:13

you're racist if you just love

20:15

your country and don't spend a lot of

20:18

time criticizing it and undermining

20:20

it and saying it's a bad place. The left

20:23

also has a problem with that. Anywhere else.

20:25

You can be from Albania, Fiji,

20:28

England, you name

20:30

it, you know, Thailand, find a country somewhere

20:32

you're allowed to love your country.

20:34

You come here and you have tremendous patriotism

20:37

and love. But Clay, it is trendy

20:40

to undermine America, and

20:42

it's only on one side of the political aisle. Well,

20:45

not only that, Buck, we got the Olympics coming

20:47

up. If you say anything critical about

20:49

other countries, left wingers

20:52

come at you and say, oh, that's racist

20:54

and xenophobic of you. Right, So

20:56

they're they're fine destroying

20:58

our own country, our values in

21:00

our institutions. But we

21:03

talked about this some when the US played Mexico

21:05

and soccer, which is probably you know, a

21:07

big rivalry game in the US one

21:09

and Mexican fans were screaming

21:11

homophobic slurs like they actually

21:14

have been suspended, which is an irony

21:16

because FIFA has given the World

21:18

Cup to a Middle

21:20

Eastern country. But that's another story where basically

21:22

they still behead gay people over there. Whatever.

21:24

But and then they also

21:27

were throwing bottles and

21:29

refuse on our players. If

21:32

you said anything negative about Mexico,

21:34

it was like, oh, that's super racist

21:36

of you. How dare you criticize

21:38

the Mexican soccer fans? But yet

21:41

the same people will denigrate America

21:43

while screaming to the heavens even though

21:45

everything has gone their way, which proves

21:47

the slippery slope argument. You're right,

21:50

Buck, I think you nailed it. As long as people

21:52

like you and I exist, and all of our listeners

21:54

out there in the Clay Travis and

21:56

Buck Sexton show army, as long as

21:58

we exist, the left wing

22:00

can't be happy because what they

22:02

really crave is authoritarianism,

22:05

totalitarianism. They don't want anybody

22:08

to disagree with anything that they say because

22:10

they're so convinced that they are

22:12

right that they are fastly rapidly

22:15

advancing towards the same perspectives

22:18

that the Taligon and Kim Jongoon

22:21

reflect, which is there's only one opinion that's

22:23

allowed. Politics is the

22:25

religion replacement for the left in this country.

22:28

You can see, you can feel if that's why there's

22:30

a devotion. That's why you have people who

22:32

will march around in the streets and

22:34

scream about how climate change

22:37

is an existential threat because they

22:39

need something to believe in that is existential.

22:41

They need something to believe in. I've said many times,

22:44

you know, climate change is a religious belief for

22:46

people who think they're too smart for a religion. And

22:48

really the left is a religious belief for

22:50

people who think that they are above

22:53

it. You know, they think that they are

22:55

they don't have a need of it. And I'll just say,

22:57

you know, Andrew Breitbart rest In,

23:00

he's famously said that politics is downstream

23:02

of culture. I think that's something that that conservatism

23:05

has really had to take to heart and wake up

23:07

too in recent years. And it's just what

23:10

do people say when you ask

23:12

somebody at a place like Georgetown University

23:14

want you all to hear this. I have a family member when to Georgetown

23:16

I used to live when I was a CIA officer

23:19

right next to Georgetown, I mean a block away

23:21

from the campus, so I know that place pretty well.

23:24

And when you ask college

23:26

kids at an elite institution

23:29

that costs something like fifty five

23:31

or sixty thousand dollars a year right now, you

23:34

ask them what do they think about America? You

23:36

were probout to be an American? No, I

23:39

feel embarrassed to be an American every

23:41

day. I just think that our economy just cares about

23:43

money and not like humans. Like, yeah, in general,

23:46

do you think that America is the greatest country in this world?

23:48

To be a white person, it's pretty good

23:50

to live here, but like overall, I don't think it's the

23:52

greatest country in the world. I would honestly

23:55

rather kind of live somewhere else. I'd

23:58

say that it's like the greatest and like the

24:00

Olympics. Olympics. Can you name a better

24:02

country than the United States in your opinion? I'm

24:05

not sure if I can't. I don't think I

24:07

can a really tiny

24:09

European country. Would you'd be willing to give

24:11

up your US citizenship? Yeah, it's

24:13

not that necessary. I mean I can still

24:15

take vacations here. Would you say that college

24:18

has helped shape your perception of being

24:20

not proud to be an American. Yes, absolutely.

24:22

I mean I went to American which is an extremely like

24:24

liberal bubble school, so I know it's kind

24:26

of like lots of liberals just preaching

24:29

to the choir. But I think I learned a

24:31

lot that I'm from Georgia, and I would have

24:33

never learned if I had not taken those classes,

24:35

just about the way the justice system works and zoning

24:38

laws and everything else. So I think college opened

24:40

my eyes to a lot of these things, Buck.

24:43

I also went to college in Washington,

24:45

d C. Scholarship kid to George

24:48

Washington University, and

24:51

right now, you know, George Washington is

24:53

the Colonials, which is because

24:55

of the colonial army, which is

24:57

kind of a big deal in the revolutionary

25:00

universe we're in right now, GW

25:02

students, Buck are demanding

25:05

that the word mascot colonials

25:08

be removed. Even though we

25:10

were fighting, we were we were the colonized,

25:13

and the colonists were fighting against

25:16

the British. They don't understand

25:19

that. And I look at this stuff and I don't

25:21

know if you agree with me on this or not, but

25:23

so much of this is about a

25:25

loss of perspective and

25:28

a failure to understand

25:31

the larger landscape of the

25:33

world. I really do feel

25:35

the more and more I think about it, I

25:37

think if every American had

25:40

to live overseas for a

25:42

year in

25:44

a normal country, I mean

25:46

normal in quotation marks, meaning

25:48

you're not getting to go to live

25:51

high end in

25:54

in a democracy where people are also

25:56

really wealthy. Right, we're not talking about you can't go to

25:58

south of France and live in mon for a year

26:00

for this experiment, Yes, but if

26:02

you had to go to the where and

26:05

see the way that the average person

26:07

lives, the Peace Corps I think is

26:09

very ennobling in many ways, honestly,

26:12

because you give up a year of your life and

26:14

you get to experience the way the

26:16

rest of the world lives, you

26:19

have so much more of an appreciation

26:22

for what you have. And I like

26:24

to use this stat India

26:26

is a rapidly growing democracy. Buck.

26:29

Our poorest people in America

26:32

live on a standard

26:34

of living wealth scale wealthier

26:37

than the twenty percent who are the twenty

26:39

percent wealthiest in India.

26:42

Right, our poor people in America

26:44

are not poor. In fact, they are wealthy

26:47

relative to overall standards of living

26:49

in the world as a whole. Most people don't know that.

26:51

But relative is the big issue

26:53

here, right. This is why you have college

26:55

kids today who are

26:58

walking around talking about how America is oppressive

27:01

and awful and it's so hard and you know, and

27:03

look, I'm a gray beard millennial. I think I think

27:05

you just aged out. You're just beyond

27:07

millennial. Is that correct, You're like a year out. I

27:09

missed the millennials by a year. You

27:11

got the kids who are walking around and all they could think

27:13

about is, you know, there are Instagram stars

27:15

who are twenty five. We're making millions of dollars a year.

27:18

Yeah. By my point being that everything is

27:20

going to be relative in the society you're in

27:22

for for people's perception of how well off they are.

27:24

That all said, there is a lack of

27:26

context and perspective, and I think you're addressing

27:29

that and pointing this out appropriately

27:32

with a lot of Americans who because they don't

27:34

really have an experience of what it is to be in

27:36

a country. Like I'm just gonna say it, there

27:39

are countries that are way more racist

27:41

than America. I mean culturalist

27:44

every country in the world. Buck

27:46

he is way more racist in America. We're about

27:48

to have the Olympics in Japan and later

27:51

this month. Look at the citizenship

27:54

requirements to become a citizen

27:56

in Japan, you basically can't. I mean, they

27:59

don't want anyone to show who all of a sudo. So

28:01

that but this, this is what I mean that the rules are constantly

28:03

changing and shifting, and

28:05

and this this Georgetown, Georgetown

28:08

students, and I just want to point out it's not Georgetown's

28:11

probably you know, on the on the one to

28:13

ten scale, ten being Wesleyan where they

28:15

have naked dorms and everyone's doing interpretive

28:17

dances to you know, post feminist

28:20

theory and you know whatever, Wesley and maybe

28:22

out of ten and one would be like,

28:24

um, you know, Hillsdale College. In terms of being

28:26

you know, conservative, I mean, Georgetown's

28:29

probably a seven. I

28:31

don't know if you know it's liberal, but it's not

28:33

the most liberal of the schools. The point is

28:35

here, if you went around you ask an American college

28:37

kid today, our elite

28:39

culture, our elite culture

28:42

is such that they know that this

28:44

safer response to do you

28:46

love this country? Do you think America is

28:48

amazing? Is some hand

28:50

ringing on the one hand. On the

28:52

other, oh, I don't know, I don't, you know, kind of cringing.

28:55

Well, I want to make Surevor knows I'm woke, and we would

28:57

confront our past. And I'm just gonna say,

29:00

this isn't just like it's kind of fun to talk about

29:02

because it's so absurd, which is true. This

29:04

has real effects on our culture,

29:06

on our society, and on our perception

29:08

of what America is and should be. And that's

29:11

why I think we're spending so much, so much

29:13

time on it. But you know, we can come back. I actually

29:15

we have some calls that on this particular

29:17

topic that I want us to get to when

29:19

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31:33

mess problem, discord,

31:35

Clay. I don't know how to best to

31:38

me. It goes to the essence of the challenge

31:40

of diversity and inclusion because

31:43

everybody who is woke loves

31:45

diversity inclusion. The white crew

31:48

that is woke unless it's their

31:50

job that ends up getting challenged, right,

31:52

like, no, no, not me, I can't. This

31:54

is absolutely the not in my backyard people, right. This

31:57

is how the left feels about absolutely everything right,

31:59

all the policy. It's like the line

32:01

from a Bastiade in the Law that government

32:03

is the great fiction through which everyone endeavors

32:05

to live at the expense of everybody else. That's

32:08

how lives live their lives. It's other people

32:10

that pay the price in every sense. Eddie

32:12

and Outer Banks, North Carolina, let's

32:15

hear from you, Eddie. What's going on? Well?

32:18

Greetings from the outer banks of North Carolina,

32:20

where even a bad day here still a pretty

32:23

good day. Indeed. Secondly,

32:26

gentleman, it doesn't. It matters not what

32:28

whole I saw over the weekend that says of

32:31

modern college day students feel

32:34

like we need to spread the US Constitution

32:36

because it was founded by

32:39

framers, men and women who were racist,

32:41

slave owners, bigots, and so we now

32:44

need to put AOC in charge

32:46

of putting together a new charter,

32:48

a new system that is mortifyingly

32:51

scary. Gentlemen, what are your thoughts? God

32:53

bless. I think college

32:55

kids always believe stupid things. I

32:58

think the difference is they

33:00

have a lot of stupid leaders in a way

33:02

that I don't know necessarily existed,

33:05

by which I mean they take every queue

33:07

from Twitter right. And you may

33:10

be able to think about this, Buck, I'm forty two. You

33:12

barely got under the under the hurdle as

33:14

a millennial, I don't remember

33:17

when I was young there being political

33:21

leaders like AOC and

33:23

the Squad who advocated

33:25

for such patently absurdly

33:28

ridiculous things and got serious

33:30

media attention for it. No, the slope

33:33

is in fact slippery, and it's important for everyone

33:35

to know that when people are ferto a slippery slope

33:38

fallacy and I have tip Noval

33:40

Ravacan for this. That is the fallacy.

33:42

The slopes are slippery, and progressives

33:46

are doing incrementalism and have gone

33:48

further left, and we're seeing it. And just look

33:51

at policy over the last twenty years. You're seeing it. And

33:53

it's always the function of what they can get away

33:55

with. And yes, they're saying crazier things in public,

33:57

things that if they'd even said ten or fifteen years ago,

34:00

would have been repeat. I mean, they're basically

34:02

an open borders party now. For example, claud that's

34:04

just one. It used to be a bipartisan

34:06

the Secure Fence Act of two thousand and six. They're

34:08

Democrats who are like, yeah, that's a good idea, let's

34:11

build a fence. People forget about this. John

34:13

McCain, mister moderate Republican, build

34:16

the dang fence was the was the line

34:18

he used in the commercial. I mean, look, we could do this all

34:20

day with different variations of that, but

34:22

that's that's absolutely very real. Marty

34:24

in Carney, Nebraska.

34:27

I believe Marty. How you doing. I'm

34:30

doing good. It's good to hear you, guys. You've got a

34:32

great show going there. I'm a listener

34:34

since nineteen ninety two, and you

34:37

know, you guys are talking about all the division

34:39

in the country, and I think it's because a lot

34:41

of the last twenty

34:43

or thirty years they've been taught by

34:46

taught a different history by like Howard sin

34:48

I remember Rush brought that up not too

34:50

long ago. Did they have

34:52

a different history. So that's what divides

34:54

this it's and we can't lose this generation,

34:58

right, I mean, he who controls buck

35:01

need a shared history. And when we don't

35:03

have a shared history at all, we don't have a

35:05

country. Well,

35:07

this is the problem, and this is why when you start to look

35:09

at what the long term ramifications are

35:12

for the mass indoctrination

35:15

of America is evil. If

35:17

America is evil, you have as a leftist,

35:19

you really have no allegiance to it other

35:22

than the force of law and the state. And

35:24

so then the goal becomes to seize the force

35:27

of law and the state for your own ends and purposes.

35:29

For dare I say fundamental

35:32

transformation, something that some Democrats have

35:34

said allowed very prominently in

35:36

recent years to dramatically change

35:39

this place, to repudiate the

35:41

principles of the founders. That is the goal.

35:44

Friends, you know, I'm a believer, and listen to what

35:46

your opponents say, and take them seriously. This

35:48

is what they say they want to do. We

35:51

have how do we have? Bernie in Toledo,

35:54

Ohio? We got a minute here, Bernie. Okay,

35:57

Yeah, I'm a Democrat and my fly

35:59

a flag twenty four seven,

36:01

three hundred and six or five days a year. I

36:04

have no problem with anybody flying flags,

36:06

but if you're doing it to

36:08

get a reaction from people, then

36:11

you're doing it for the wrong reason. That's not patriotism.

36:14

And wait, but how does one fly a flag

36:16

for the wrong reason, Bernie? I mean if someone's flag is

36:18

outside their house or on a truck. I

36:20

mean if as a flag on a pickup truck? Is

36:22

that the wrong reason? Why

36:25

do CUE sitters go to church and

36:27

act like Christians when they're not? I

36:30

don't really, you don't think. I think the reason

36:32

why people who would say like I'll use myself

36:34

as an example. I was not someone who

36:37

wanted to have a flag necessarily outside

36:39

of my house, any flag right, like for

36:41

my college or anything else. I

36:43

want to have a flag outside of my house

36:46

more so now than I ever have in my past.

36:48

You may be the same in Buck, even though you're living in New

36:50

York City because I want

36:53

to be able to demonstrate that I

36:55

am proud of my country and problem. I

36:57

have a big American flag displayed in my

36:59

living room because I don't have outdoorspace and like,

37:01

yeah, hang it out my window from you know, many stories

37:04

up, but we're gonna come back to this big ESPN

37:07

story where you got in

37:10

diversity and inclusion stuff at the center of

37:12

it. Plus maybe we'll have time for some defund the police

37:14

stuff. That's all coming up on the Clay Travis and Buck

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