We sit down with our first two experts to talk about the relationship between and the imprtance of in Systems Thinking in the Climate Crisis. With thanks to Richard Calland (Univeristy of Cape Town) and Andrew Watson (International School of Amsterdam).
Music: Provided by the Marama Cafe Band; Giles Lewin (Violin, Vocals) Natalia Kakarkina (Vocals, Saucepan Lid), Pete Watson (Vocals, Accordion)
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