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Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - NFL Draft Breakdown! Penix To Falcons, Nix To Broncos, Caleb Williams Joins Stacked Bears Offense

Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - NFL Draft Breakdown! Penix To Falcons, Nix To Broncos, Caleb Williams Joins Stacked Bears Offense

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Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - NFL Draft Breakdown! Penix To Falcons, Nix To Broncos, Caleb Williams Joins Stacked Bears Offense

Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - NFL Draft Breakdown! Penix To Falcons, Nix To Broncos, Caleb Williams Joins Stacked Bears Offense

Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - NFL Draft Breakdown! Penix To Falcons, Nix To Broncos, Caleb Williams Joins Stacked Bears Offense

Colin Cowherd Podcast Prime Cuts - NFL Draft Breakdown! Penix To Falcons, Nix To Broncos, Caleb Williams Joins Stacked Bears Offense

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A lot is made of the NBA

1:33

ratings, and I have touched on this. Baseball,

1:36

hockey and the NBA are increasingly international,

1:38

and I don't think that necessarily helps your domestic

1:40

ratings, but I do

1:43

think the NBA is really dynamic.

1:46

I've said before the sports that I truly love

1:48

NFL, college football, NBA, especially

1:50

the playoffs, World Cup and a great UFC

1:52

fight. That's my five and sports

1:55

gambling. But I thought

1:57

one of the things that's been interesting about the NBA

1:59

that I really appreciate, and it doesn't

2:02

benefit the young teams, but it benefits

2:04

the tough teams, is that

2:06

the NBA has decided to do this and this

2:08

has always been an NFL strength, the ability

2:11

on the fly to change rules baseball

2:13

really struggles with its traditionalists

2:16

and its lore and its history. But

2:18

the NFL has always, even though it's

2:20

the number one sport by a long shot in America,

2:22

always views itself as an underdog and

2:25

it's not called America's pastime baseball is.

2:27

So the NFL's always willing views itself

2:29

as a TV show, always willing to evolve.

2:31

A few years ago in that Super Bowl, Nick Foles Brady,

2:34

the league literally changed its cash rule in the

2:36

Super Bowl and a couple juggled catches

2:38

that in my opinion, were catches were granted

2:40

its touchdowns and catches that weren't

2:42

during the regular season or the playoffs before

2:44

the Super Bowl. So I really do appreciate

2:47

the NBA. There was a big story this year

2:49

in the NBA for diehards. I'm not a die

2:51

hard, but I watch a lot of NBA after

2:54

the deadline, trade deadline, I'm into it almost

2:56

every night or every other night, watching at least a half

2:59

of a game. And there's

3:01

been this talk about that they started

3:03

officiating the sport differently, and I really

3:06

appreciated this, and I've noticed it in the playoffs.

3:08

One of the reasons regular

3:11

seasons are struggling in all major

3:13

sports outside of football is because other sports

3:15

lack urgency. The iPhone

3:17

is distracting all of us. But the

3:19

NBA decided to call fewer

3:22

fouls, and I think it's really

3:24

helped the game. I think these

3:26

playoff games, there's fewer whistles,

3:28

there's fewer free throws. I really

3:31

appreciate this. You know, during

3:33

that Nicks Sixers

3:35

scrum on the floor the other

3:37

night, and I picked the Sixers to win this,

3:39

so you know, I'm looking for Philadelphia to come out

3:41

of this malaise and beat the Knicks.

3:44

I think they have more good players. But I

3:46

appreciated the

3:48

NBA letting the play go when the ball's

3:50

on the floor, give me a break. That's

3:53

that is just hustle. A ball hits

3:55

the floor, players hit the floor. I'm not calling fouls

3:57

unless it's egregious. I love the NBA

4:00

not calling a foul. Effort

4:02

wins. The Knicks had more effort. What I didn't

4:04

like is the NBA coming out where

4:07

the next day they come out and say that, well, there was

4:09

two fouls that weren't

4:11

called and they should have called a timeout. What

4:14

value does that have? Embarrassing

4:16

your officials the game is over.

4:19

It extends the

4:21

reddit board crowd who thinks the league is rigged

4:23

and there's a conspiracy. We know the league isn't

4:25

rigged because major markets

4:28

like Detroit, Atlanta, DC,

4:31

previously before the last couple of years,

4:33

New York. But in the toilet forever, the

4:35

league is not rooting for Wenby to go to

4:37

San Antonio, Zion to New Orleans,

4:39

John Morant to Memphis, and to have Oklahoma

4:42

City in Minnesota and Denver running the West,

4:45

steph Out and Lebron about to be out. That's

4:48

not what the NBA is hoping for. But

4:50

I do appreciate when

4:52

a league on the fly,

4:55

even in season, has an interpretation

4:58

of this is hurting the quality of product

5:00

for the fans. And what

5:02

the NBA has done, they're speeding the game

5:05

up, fewer whistles. College football

5:07

has made multiple changes last several years.

5:10

Speed the clock up. It is my number

5:12

one complaint. Baseball, by

5:14

the way, pitch clock first

5:17

year attendance up eight percent,

5:19

ratings up eleven. People

5:21

are telling you we love the games.

5:24

We don't have all day. So

5:26

a lot of people criticize the NBA. I thought

5:28

it was really smart by Adam Silver people

5:31

were they made it sound like it happened

5:33

in a smoke filled room. He just

5:35

said, fewer whistles, let them play. And

5:38

I think the NBA playoff to this point have

5:40

been really good, really intense,

5:43

and really physical. Yukon won

5:45

a national championship. They were the most physical

5:47

college basketball team I saw. And Minnesota

5:50

is pushing around the suns. It works,

5:52

it matters, and it makes for a

5:54

better product. I love sports,

5:57

but I have kids. You have kids, you

5:59

have work. I don't have all day. Keep

6:02

them going, speed them up. These are TV

6:04

shows. It's entertainment. That's why Hollywood

6:07

doesn't have three hour movies, right,

6:10

there's like two hours fifteen minutes is to cut

6:12

off for most movies unless they're gonna be all time

6:14

epics like Oppenheimer, Michael

6:18

Pennix Junior going to Atlanta

6:20

at eight. Oh,

6:22

that's interesting. Well, what they're saying is Kirk

6:25

Cousins is gonna be a He's gonna be a two

6:27

year player, a one year player. By

6:30

the way, how lucky is Pennix? That

6:33

old line Drake London Kyle

6:35

Pitt's two backs. How lucky

6:37

is Michael Pennix?

6:39

Wow?

6:40

That that is that's shocking. I

6:43

think just because a lot of people I

6:46

knew scouts during the season that had Pennix as a

6:48

second rounder. I thought that was crazy. But

6:50

there was a lot of talk a couple months ago that he

6:52

was not a top fifteen pick. And then to

6:55

go to Atlanta after they just spend all that money

6:57

on Cousins, They're also getting a guy

6:59

coming off a tour on Achilles right who's

7:01

not a great athlete. So I completely

7:04

understand what they're doing. Maybe there's doubling, I mean they're

7:06

not. Maybe they are doubling down on the quarterback

7:08

position. They feel good about their defense, they have

7:10

a I mean they've drafted seventy five

7:12

offensive skill guys these last couple of years. Their

7:15

offensive line's good.

7:17

Hard for me at Hase, Raheem

7:19

Morris was an NFL coach, couldn't

7:21

get the quarterback right, got fired, goes

7:24

to the Rams, becomes incredibly

7:26

great friends with Sean McVay, and

7:29

Sean McVay made it very clear, dude,

7:31

we had goff and moved off. So if

7:33

Raheem Morris, who's a really smart guy, learned

7:35

something, you know, as mcvay's best friend,

7:38

you can't be good enough or

7:40

deep enough at quarterback. We had goff

7:42

and we moved off. And so I think

7:44

this is Raheem Morris saying, listen, this

7:46

is what I love about this move. A lot of these

7:48

defensive coaches can struggle

7:51

with how urgent is quarterback.

7:53

This is like when Washington had a chance

7:55

to go out and get people and Ron Rivera wouldn't

7:57

make the move. Raheem's like, listen, I'm not

8:00

only gonna get Kirk Cousins

8:02

with this stacked offense, I'm getting his

8:04

backup.

8:05

So I gotta be honest.

8:06

I like the move.

8:08

Well, think about this. Rah he Morris

8:10

had a front row seat as the coordinator two years ago when

8:12

Stafford went down and they were completely fucked, right,

8:15

I mean they were. It derailed their season.

8:18

So you're signing a guy to a lot of money

8:20

who's a really good player when he was healthy, but he's

8:22

coming off of torn achilles. Yeah, and

8:24

think about one of their guys in Green Bay

8:26

just benefited a lot from having a young quarterback

8:28

on the roster. When the Rogers things got weird, they

8:31

didn't skip a beat and now they're a team that everyone's

8:33

gonna love. So this is the old

8:35

ron Wolf thing, and Andy

8:37

followed it. I mean, all these Kyle Shanahan

8:40

guys, just draft these quarterbacks. You

8:42

could argue, you know, if you're

8:44

all in on Kirk Cousins this year trying

8:46

to win, take a defensive player,

8:48

especially a defensive lineman. Their sack production

8:51

has been terrible, so why a lot of people thought they would take

8:53

an edge rusher or the Texas defensive

8:55

tackle. But if you're gonna go off

8:57

the beaten path at this position, this

9:00

guy's good Colin. I mean, listen,

9:02

he got hurt a lot, but he has not been

9:04

hurt the last two years. To me, I

9:06

love this guy. The one concerning thing is

9:09

when he did play Michigan, who turned out

9:11

was an NFL team, they were rattling

9:13

him and he was way off. But that is

9:16

a one game scenario. He has a large body

9:18

of work. No one throws the better deep ball,

9:21

no one, just I would say, start to finish this last

9:23

two years, probably has had a better two

9:25

year stretch. Jayden had a better season

9:27

this year, Caleb had a better season last year,

9:29

same with Drake May. But over the two year body

9:31

of work, you'd have to say Pennix was.

9:33

The best, right, Yeah, and I also

9:35

think a lot of big game experience. I've defended

9:38

him on Michigan. You know. My takeaway

9:40

is a lot of NFL quarterbacks faced

9:42

Alabama Nick Saban and looked awful.

9:45

A lot of NFL quarterbacks can face Georgia

9:48

over the last four years and not look very

9:50

good. I mean CJ. Stroud couldn't beat

9:52

Michigan either, so I

9:54

mean they had a stacked deck, one

9:56

of the most talented teams in the last decade.

9:59

I listen, and I'm a Michael Pennox

10:01

fan. He's one of my favorite players in this draft. I

10:03

think the concerning part about it specifically,

10:06

though, is right, he was sacked eleven times

10:08

during the season. He had one of the best offense,

10:10

so he never got touched. So he played

10:12

in somewhat of a situation like a lot of

10:14

the Ohio State and Alabama guys have over

10:16

their career where it's a pretty unreal

10:18

situation with awesome wide receivers. And

10:21

he dominated, and then they started getting

10:23

pressure, they started hitting him. And

10:25

it's not like he's small, like I don't

10:27

view him as slight, quite like Jaden Daniels.

10:30

But you were at the Oregon game, up in Seattle, that

10:32

Michigan game. A couple of times you're like, this, is he gonna be able

10:34

to get up? That's the one. Now get

10:36

a little bigger. He doesn't have to play right away.

10:39

Is he immediately one of the better backup quarterbacks

10:41

in the NFL?

10:42

Oh, he's making eighth pick.

10:43

He's making six to seven million dollars. It seems like a pretty

10:45

good deal.

10:46

He's the most talented backup in the NFL.

10:48

Officially, you can go with that. He throws

10:50

a gorgeous ball. Greg Cosell

10:52

told me today brock Bauers does some things better

10:55

than anybody in forty four years covering

10:57

the draft on film. His

10:59

ability to transition from like pre

11:03

catch to post catch after the ball in his hands,

11:05

he said, there's no transition. He's running

11:07

full speed before and full speed after. There's

11:09

just no transition.

11:11

So I think he's one

11:13

of the best players in the draft when you just factor in he

11:16

went to Georgia in the height of their talent

11:18

and dominated immediately. And it's

11:20

not like he's a Southern guy. They got him out of Napa,

11:23

California, which last I checked, isn't

11:25

exactly producing both some brother type

11:27

talents and he

11:29

I'm sure he just annihilated those guys in practice

11:31

every day.

11:32

I'll tell you what, Brock Bauers is

11:35

the best player. I

11:38

mean, holy when somebody's getting

11:40

a star Denver,

11:43

Okay, they reached so bone

11:46

X. I just I

11:48

think in that division with Harbaugh,

11:50

Herbert reed, Mahomes, you

11:53

gotta get you gotta you gotta take a swing

11:55

here. To me, that's what it feels like. And they're all line by

11:57

the way Hayton built that

11:59

thing. One year it was top seven by PFF.

12:01

So you don't have a need there. MEM's

12:05

in Courtland Sutton. You can get a receiver later,

12:08

they need an edge rusher and a quarterback for

12:10

the future. I think Denver's actually, I think their roster's

12:12

okay, it's not great, but it's okay.

12:14

I think taking bo Nicks in the first round is pretty nuts.

12:17

But the way he wants to

12:19

play, let's face it. Drew Brees the last

12:21

couple of years when they were successful in the late

12:23

teens, like seventeen eighteen, was

12:26

not bombing the ball down the field by any means.

12:28

Get rid of the ball fast, get rid of the

12:30

ball accurately, and Sean Payton Sneaky's

12:32

kind of.

12:32

Got a little old school Bill Parcel.

12:34

He will run the ball once he got Alvin Kamara.

12:37

So could you just function immediately,

12:39

because let's look at their quarterback room right

12:41

now. It's Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson

12:44

and Danucci. I mean, if

12:46

that's your quarterback room going into the season, I

12:49

don't care if Sean Payton turns into Bill Walsh. I

12:51

mean, is that a six win team at best? You'd

12:53

be in major trouble. He'd be in major

12:55

trouble.

12:56

Here's the thing. I saw him play live twice. Here's

12:59

what I liked about him. He's more

13:01

athletic than you think.

13:03

Well, he's a good athlete, really

13:05

good athlete.

13:06

Little Alex Smith, like, I mean, Alex

13:09

gets on the run and you're like, oh, Alex can

13:11

out run linebackers.

13:12

Alex is fast, Bo can move.

13:14

Bo's got sixty one starts the

13:16

Oregon offense to some degree is

13:18

Drew Brees's. I'm going to design a

13:20

play with two options, throw it

13:22

to it. So remember Bo doesn't throw a

13:24

good deep ball. Breeze. Last five years,

13:27

he didn't throw a great deep ball. So my

13:29

take is Sean talks himself

13:31

into listen, I one with Breeze, who was the best

13:33

quarterback in the league with no deep ball the last

13:36

four years. Let's be honest,

13:39

Patrick Mahomes no longer

13:41

throws a deep ball. The deep ball's great

13:43

if you have Tyreek Hill and a handful of receivers.

13:46

Not a lot of teams are throwing the deep ball consistently.

13:49

If you have a J.

13:49

Brown, it's great. Most teams don't have aj

13:52

Brown. There's a lot of good teams in this league, John

13:54

that don't have an over the top star receiver.

13:57

Throw the ball deep ever.

14:00

Look in the movie Ay Yuke.

14:01

So my take on bon Nix's he's

14:03

a young Breeze and you can say, well, that's ridiculous,

14:06

but Price the guy's went to the SEC. The

14:08

PAC twelve was the best it's been in

14:10

twenty years. He was very

14:12

good. He was he was awesome.

14:15

He was awesome. I feel

14:17

like I'm talking out both sides of my mouth because we

14:19

always talk about the importance of the wiring

14:22

and the character and all that stuff about bon Nicks.

14:24

People love what he kind of became in Oregon.

14:26

The way they talk about him. I also

14:28

think you gotta be careful when you're evaluating

14:30

the player of falling in love with

14:33

that, and clearly Sean puts a premium on it. I mean

14:35

he spent fifteen years around one of the highest character guys

14:37

in like League history and Drew Brees. And

14:39

that's where again you get back to the Kenny Picketts,

14:42

those type players, the mac Jones, where you

14:44

fall in love with the character and the physical

14:46

attributes. Is this is also

14:49

as simple as they were desperate. I mean, like we just

14:51

talked about before they made the pit what were they gonna do roll

14:53

into the season with Deanucci and Zach Wilson.

14:55

I mean, they didn't have a choice.

15:08

All right, do we want to bring Danny Parkins into

15:10

Talk Bears. Let's bring Danny in from Chicago.

15:12

Danny is the most talented young broadcaster

15:14

I think of the country doing radio. Buddy

15:17

and Nick Wright introduced me years ago. Like Nick

15:19

Wright has a borderline

15:21

gambling problem. That's why I love him. I

15:24

say that as borderline is that

15:27

the problem is with the casinos and the books, because

15:29

he actually wins. He comes from a math family.

15:31

So Danny, first of all, I was surprised. I

15:33

thought I thought they would go defense Danny

15:36

with the pick because the defensive coach coaches

15:38

have can pound the table and kind of get

15:40

Usually you know, they make two to three times what a coach

15:42

does. But Ryan Poles has so

15:45

much steam now, so much momentum.

15:47

Eber Flus doesn't. So my take

15:50

by getting Romadunze, that's a Ryan

15:52

Poles call.

15:53

That's my take years one

15:55

percent. When Ryan Poles was

15:58

here, when he got hired, people

16:00

were asking him about team building philosophy,

16:03

and he said, remember where

16:05

I came from, and that's Kansas

16:07

City. Because he got criticism

16:09

for his first draft where he didn't have a first round

16:12

pick, taking Kyler Gordon and Jakwan

16:14

Brisker with his two second round picks. And

16:17

I criticized him for not taking

16:19

a receiver in George Pickens with

16:21

the Jaquan Brisker pick, and

16:23

he said, remember where I came from, which

16:25

he was basically saying, I didn't think

16:28

anyone there was the right

16:30

guy to take, but I'm not going

16:32

to not support the quarterback. He

16:34

traded for Claypool. It didn't work.

16:36

He trades the number one pick he wants Dj

16:38

Moore attached to it. It does work.

16:41

He trades a fourth round pick for Keenan Allen.

16:43

He's one of the most consistent players in the NFL. And

16:45

then the ninth pick overall comes up and

16:47

he makes what I thought was the obvious

16:50

pick if he was on the board, and he gives

16:53

Joe Burrow his Jamar Chase. You know,

16:55

these guys have a rookie contract timeline

16:57

that are completely aligned. I know Burrow and Chase wereing

16:59

back to back drafts, but the idea

17:01

is the same, to get Caleb Williams

17:04

a weapon that he can grow and develop with. I'm

17:06

ecstatic. This is modern offensive

17:08

football finally coming to Chicago for the first

17:10

time in my lifetime.

17:12

Wity nuts.

17:13

You know, John and I were talking about

17:16

this. When is the last rookie

17:18

quarterback that got

17:20

this?

17:22

This is insane.

17:23

Gerald Everett's a throw in. He

17:25

was the Chargers' best tight end, highly productive.

17:29

Well, we've never seen it for a number one overall pick

17:31

quarterback. We've definitely never seen it

17:33

for that. Justin Herbert

17:35

had a very good situation in LA

17:37

with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams,

17:40

and you know he was supported with Austin Eckler

17:42

and Corey Linsley. At center and Rashaun Slater

17:45

at tackle, and he set the rookie record

17:47

for passing touchdowns with thirty one. So

17:50

we have never seen it for a number one overall

17:53

pick to have this type of nest to come

17:55

into and develop. And if

17:58

I may for a second, because Colin, you

18:00

and I talked about this on the show about

18:02

like how Chicago's a place where

18:05

they've never had offensive success and quarterback

18:07

and goes to die and all of that stuff, and that cynicism

18:09

that Bears fans is well earned. The

18:12

amount of luck that

18:14

led to this moment is

18:16

just staggering. Week eighteen,

18:19

two years ago, the Bears

18:21

needed the Texans to

18:23

beat the Colts, and

18:26

Davis Mills led a fourteen

18:28

play drive where

18:30

he converted a fourth and ten and

18:33

a fourth and twenty on

18:36

the same drive and then

18:38

a two point conversion to

18:40

give them the number one pick in the Bryce

18:42

Young Draft. They then trade the number

18:44

one pick to the Panthers. The

18:46

Panthers then have to be so bad

18:49

and they lost four of those games by only

18:52

three points to give them

18:54

the number one pick to be in this position

18:56

to get Caleb Williams. So the

18:58

stars are fine.

19:00

We aligning in Chicago to be

19:02

set up at quarterback and

19:04

have a good offense and potentially a great

19:06

offense for literally the first time in my

19:08

lifetime with any consistency.

19:10

So Minnesota trades up twenty

19:13

three to seventeen. Jacksonville slides

19:15

back, Minnesota selects Dallas

19:17

Turner. So ten minutes

19:19

ago, John and I sort of guessed

19:22

we predicted we would go on a defensive

19:24

run here. So since Latto

19:26

Law two goes to Indy Byron Murphy,

19:28

the small but explosive defensive tackle

19:30

a Longhorn goes to Seattle, that's a real need.

19:33

Minnesota smartly moves up. So

19:35

you know, Minnesota moved

19:38

up just a little to get JJ

19:40

McCarthy. Boy, this division's got This

19:43

division's got good personnel. This division

19:45

is freaking ridiculous.

19:47

I'm sure you could do a Pro Bowl

19:50

offensive Pro Bowl with the NFC

19:53

North that can beat the league. I

19:55

seriously believe that.

19:56

I well, I mean, you'd have Danny, That's

19:58

yeah. That's my with the Bears,

20:00

I mean, we're all in love. I mean, how could you not be

20:03

what they've done. It's not the Packers.

20:05

We know if that quarterback he's playing, they're gonna be

20:07

good. You'd assume their defense can't be as shitty

20:10

as it's been. And the Lions honestly

20:13

should have beat the forty nine Ers should have been the super Bowl.

20:15

So it's you could have an excellent, improved

20:17

team and still be the third best team in that division.

20:20

Very I

20:22

mean it could it could be a ten win team gets third

20:24

place in this division. It could be.

20:26

It could be three playoff teams that come

20:28

out of the North.

20:29

Honestly, I

20:32

I think Minnesota and

20:34

Chicago will battle for a wildcard spot.

20:37

I think Detroit still as the best roster. I think

20:39

Green Bays is young, not as good

20:41

as Detroit's, but it's it's pretty damn interesting

20:43

offensively. I the Packers defense never

20:45

delivers. I couldn't say the last year I thought great

20:47

defense.

20:48

It just doesn't.

20:49

The Aaron Rodgers year, it was pretty good. But they

20:51

Green Bay does offense better than anybody. They can't

20:53

get the defense right, even though they draft it in the first

20:56

round historically almost every year. So

20:59

Dallas turn.

21:01

That was their night.

21:02

Well, you know what I wonder with Poles, and

21:04

I wonder if Poles may say this tonight in his press

21:06

conference, because you hit on the Claypool

21:09

situation. I mean, they missed badly on character,

21:11

and like you said, he came from around Ballard

21:13

and Andy. I mean, they value character

21:16

pretty high with their high end guys. I

21:18

wonder if they would have taken Rome over

21:21

neighbors, like Rome was the second wide receiver

21:23

on their board. It wouldn't shock me with that at all

21:25

because his character, from what I was told is elite.

21:28

Yeah, Brock heword told me that he's one

21:30

of the two favorite players that he's seen

21:33

at Washington and being about around

21:35

the program in about twenty years. And you

21:37

know what's crazy too, They they kind of telegraphed

21:40

it, not the Bears, but Caleb,

21:42

Like it came out the other day that Tom Pellisero

21:44

had it that Rome with Dunsa

21:47

was working out with DJ Moore Keenan

21:49

Allen with Caleb Williams throwing

21:51

them the ball. Caleb and Rome were on

21:53

the same flight from LA to

21:55

Detroit for the draft. Caleb

21:57

put on Instagram a couple hours before the draft,

22:00

how much you liked Roma Dunsay's outfit. So

22:02

I think it might. I think it might come out

22:05

because I mean they've been doing install with Caleb

22:07

Williams I mean, this has been locked

22:10

up for eight weeks, that Caleb's

22:12

going to be a Bear. It would

22:14

have shocked me at all if Ryan Poles admits

22:16

that he asked Caleb Williams for input

22:19

on who he wanted them to take at number

22:21

nine and so, yeah, the character part for Poles,

22:23

sure, but it would not surprise me at all

22:25

if Caleb Williams had at least a say

22:28

in Roma Dunsay being a Bear I

22:31

saw.

22:32

I've been told this by multiple scouts

22:35

and gms in the league that this is the most talented

22:38

top of a draft in years. Brock

22:40

Bowers goes thirteen, the

22:43

best run blocking offensive tackling

22:45

years goes fourteen to the Saints. Byron

22:48

Murphy goes sixteen. Dallas Turner,

22:50

who was considered a top eight pick, go seventeen

22:54

guys for years, Danny,

22:56

I've always been told by scouts a

22:59

good draft have seventeen to eighteen

23:01

first round players and then it's death Valley.

23:03

I was told this year it was nineteen to twenty.

23:09

I'm amazed. My

23:11

guess is Cincinnati's next guys. I

23:13

think they go wide receiver. You got a defense?

23:16

Oh no, they went and got a Marius Mims.

23:20

This is the first pick. I have

23:22

real questions with not

23:24

a ton of starts. If

23:27

listen, somebody's gonna bust in the first eighteen

23:29

picks. This one scares

23:31

me.

23:32

I mean, most of the guys will bust. Multiple guys

23:34

will bust in the first eighteen picks. I mean,

23:36

don't you think this is maybe just Joe

23:39

Burrow needs to be healthy in order for us to be good Like

23:41

with the Bengals.

23:42

Love the high weight speed guys too. You know, this guy's

23:45

got eight starts or whatever, a little bit of a

23:47

fly you know, I wouldn't say a flyer because

23:49

it comes from Georgia. But pretty risky,

23:51

but that's kind of their history.

23:54

They take some risks.

23:56

We yeah, but when Burrow is healthy, they win, for

23:59

sure, win big. So

24:02

so I mean, I know everybody apparently want you know, Hendrickson

24:04

wants to be traded and uh t Higgins

24:07

wants to be traded, and guys are getting out of there because

24:09

you can't pay everybody. But I'll

24:11

roll the dice with a healthy Joe Burrow and a healthy

24:13

Jamar Chase. And so if this pick helps keep

24:16

them upright, that's uh, that's

24:18

not the worst thing in the world. The runout offensive

24:21

players was just remarkable, Like we knew, we

24:23

knew it was gonna be the top seven. We're

24:25

like, oh, maybe it'll be the top nine. But

24:27

what it was the top top fourteen,

24:31

top right, top fourteen picks.

24:33

If wonder if is going to start being a trend, you

24:36

know, with the way college football is much more offensive.

24:38

I mean, Ohio State, a historic program, is

24:41

an offensive program. Now Alabama

24:43

now would do bor gonna beat lean more offense.

24:46

George is probably the last of a dying

24:48

breed. Even Brian Kelly look at him, Jaden

24:51

Daniels, Moleague neighbors. I mean,

24:53

it's just wonder if this is kind of where we're

24:55

headed as a as a well sport.

24:57

There's two quarterbacks Shor Sanders

25:00

will go very high next year. I do

25:02

think cam Ward at Miami's a fascinating

25:05

player. Saw a ton of them at Washington State. He

25:07

is really electric. There's

25:09

a third quarterback. Is the Georgia kid is

25:12

I think is he eligible? He's I

25:15

don't I worry about Georgia.

25:18

They literally play with like it's twenty

25:20

eight NFL guys. You know, It's like, I

25:23

just don't It's like JJ McCarthy, Jesus,

25:25

did you ever trail? Did you ever not

25:28

have a third and two? I mean when was third and fourteen?

25:30

I mean that's like the league.

25:33

I mean, JJ McCarthy went a half without

25:35

being asked to throw a football.

25:39

He was Jimmy Garoppolo of college football.

25:41

There's a stat that he only

25:43

threw the ball, and I'm I'm this is

25:45

top of the head, like he only threw the ball

25:47

on third down like thirty four times,

25:50

the whole thing or something. I looked

25:52

at the stat and I'm like, oh no, that's not the NFL.

25:55

That's that's like well, I

25:57

mean Alabama quarterbacks, Georgia

25:59

quarterbacks historically, and that Michigan

26:01

team when you get eighteen pro players, Like

26:04

that's why I've defended Michael Pennix Danny

26:06

with Michigan. I'm like, do you know how many good

26:08

quarterbacks look bad during that fifteen

26:10

year Alabama Nick Saban defensive run

26:13

like Pennicks was great. I watched

26:15

him twice against Oregon like he was exceptional.

26:18

Michigan beat CJ. Stroud,

26:21

So like, I'm gonna give you Michigan,

26:23

you were overwhelmed.

26:25

I'm okay with that the

26:27

Pennix thing. I'm sure you guys talked about it a ton.

26:29

It's obviously the biggest surprise pick of

26:32

the draft so far. Brian Baldinger said

26:35

to me on the show, he was like, I hear

26:37

Atlanta's taken a QB and that they love

26:39

Pennix. This was like ten days ago, and

26:43

I thought it was the dumbest thing I had ever heard.

26:45

Because they gave Kirk Cousins

26:47

one hundred million. The last three first round picks

26:50

are skill position guys. The defense is pretty

26:52

good, but CO try to win a

26:54

division and get a piece for right now. But

26:56

I wonder if they're saying we

26:59

are good, Cousins is gonna make

27:01

us better and so

27:03

we're not going to be picking in the top ten for

27:06

the next couple of years. So Michael

27:08

Pennix will learn from Kirk Cousins and will

27:11

have an elite quarterback prospect learn

27:13

from Cousins, and then they'll never have to pick in the

27:15

top ten again for the next decade.

27:17

Denny. Basically, they're saying, we're gonna

27:19

do a Green Bay Packer. We're just gonna this

27:21

is who.

27:25

Yeah, Because Penex I thought was ready to

27:27

play, they one because

27:29

of his age. But they're gonna make him sit for

27:31

two years at least.

27:33

My guess is he sits for a year

27:35

also.

27:36

Six So well, one

27:38

hundred million guaranteed, your

27:41

cousin.

27:41

But I know, but they're

27:44

not paying anybody offensively they've

27:46

I mean, if that's why they went in free agency

27:48

and can get a Rondell More, they can go get players

27:51

they don't have. I mean, Jarrett the defensive

27:53

lineman's making money. They're not paying. I

27:56

mean, they had so much money for Kirk, They're not

27:58

paying very many people.

28:00

I wonder if that owner got so scarred after

28:02

watching the quarterback play these

28:04

last two years and says under no circumstances,

28:06

after dealing with Matt Ryan for a decade, are

28:08

we ever dealing with this again? So not

28:11

only was he behind it, I wonder if he

28:13

kind of pushed for it, like just double down

28:15

on this position. Because watching Desmond.

28:18

Rittoral always have a succession plan. That's

28:20

interesting, that's possible. That would be an ownership

28:22

thing.

28:22

And Rahee Morris I was telling Colin think

28:25

two years ago had a front row seat.

28:27

Stafford went down and the whole season got derailed.

28:29

And now Cousins coming off an Achilles. Now

28:31

it's an expensive Achilles, one hundred million dollars.

28:33

But still, Danny, we said this.

28:35

Raheem was a head coach, got fired, Why

28:37

quarterback? He goes to LA he

28:40

becomes Sean mcvay's best friend. McVeigh

28:43

is in his ear saying, dude,

28:46

you're gonna get another job. But let

28:48

me just tell you. We upgraded

28:50

off a super Bowl quarterback. You cannot

28:53

be good enough or deep enough at quarterback.

28:55

And I do think Raheem is one

28:57

of these, you know, these defensive coaches wearing me

28:59

out. But I do think Raheem I've

29:01

been told. I mean, he is quick. He

29:04

is also kind of a progressive. He's

29:06

not one of these, like, you know, I watched Pittsburgh

29:08

Steelers offense sometime. I'm like, can you guys

29:11

run motion? I mean what it looks

29:13

like. I'm watching the NFL network in the eighties.

29:15

It's like there are these defensive coaches, Pete Carroll,

29:17

I'm like, can you can you get an offensive

29:20

line right? Pete McDermott.

29:22

They couldn't get a run game for seven years. Raheem's

29:26

not that guy. He's got

29:28

a little bit I'm trying to think Demiko

29:30

Ryans is the same. He's a defensive coach

29:32

coming from an offensive culture, and

29:35

I think it matters. I think

29:37

Kyle Shanahan Dimiko comes out

29:39

and says, I get the league, and

29:41

I think Raheem Morris says, I get the league.

29:44

I'm with McVeigh those guys. By the way, has anybody

29:46

on mcvay's tree not worked yet?

29:49

Right? Which is? I mean

29:51

that's why I wanted the Bears to fire

29:54

eber Fluse and hire someone better

29:56

than Shane Waldron, although he is saying kind of he's

29:59

on the tree as well, old passing game coordinator.

30:01

There. Offense is the

30:03

way of the league, and obviously if

30:05

you hit it quarterback, it's never

30:07

a bad pick. It's just a

30:10

shocking allocation of resources

30:12

with to draft the old quarterback

30:15

with the injuries in terms of a draft prospect,

30:17

when you just signed the old

30:19

quarterback coming off of the big injury

30:21

like this is a very unconventional thing,

30:23

at least with Jordan Love. It had worked

30:26

for the franchise before and they thought

30:28

Rogers was done, but then Rogers

30:30

shocked him and won a couple of MVPs. Kirk

30:32

Cousins hasn't played a game for the Falcons

30:35

and they drafted his replacement.

30:36

Okay, Danny Parkins has a book, Pipeline

30:39

to the Pros. It's outstanding.

30:42

Also, Danny Parkins and Spiegel. It's Chicago.

30:45

It's a big radio hit. I can't

30:47

believe we got you. It's nine to seventeen.

30:49

You have a family and young children.

30:52

Hollin, I'm in Detroit. It's ten seventeen.

30:56

I'm in Detroit to see

30:58

the Bears get Caleb Williams and Row. I

31:00

left my four year old and two year old to my wife

31:02

in Chicago. I'm here for the party. My

31:05

man, I can call him Colin. The Bears

31:07

just won the twenty twenty seven Super Bowl.

31:09

Tonight, come on, Yeah, I'm texting.

31:11

I'm texting Nick Wright, taunting him that

31:13

there's no shame in Patrick Mahomes

31:15

losing to Tom Brady and Caleb Williams

31:17

and supermow.

31:20

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