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What's up everybody ? Dr Asia King

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here . What's ?

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good with the man with the plan

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. Mr Wothersmo is in the building

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again .

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It's always changing a little .

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In the building . That's what

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I did In the building .

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All right , yep , we jump right into

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it . Jada Pickett

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Smith and Will Smith

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Her book just came out

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worthy . She's

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been dropping little jewels here and there

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from the book If you all haven't

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seen , or I know you got to have seen

1:17

, I need to write me a book . You seen all the memes , man

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look ain't nobody interested .

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Ain't nobody interested you ain't look

1:24

.

1:24

she's lived an interesting life man . We

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talking about Jada Pickett Smith . A girl's

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trip , set it off Set

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it off . Oh yeah , Set

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it off Like she is a Hollywood

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Jim .

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Has been in the game for quite a few years . Two pox

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old book . Let's not leave

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that in there . See , you already Put that in there .

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Well , I mean , look , we'll get into

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that in a bit , but we know her

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to have married where Will Smith , who

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in his own right , is a superstar

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too . So two superstars get

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married , have what

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we see as a society , this beautiful

2:01

, beautiful relationship . And then , boom 2024

2:04

, we find out they've been

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separated for the last seven

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years , years

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, and really , and really

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, this this is this is all

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shocking . People separate and divorce

2:17

all the time . I myself is

2:19

am a happily divorced

2:22

woman .

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Oh my gosh , here we go .

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Not so bad , happily divorced .

2:28

We'll talk about I , oh Happily

2:31

happily divorced . We're gonna have to talk . You need

2:33

a therapist . Oh , oh .

2:35

I am a therapist . Look , hey look , come on

2:37

. Happily divorced . Okay

2:40

we're not gonna get into that , we talk is about the

2:42

will and chance , though .

2:43

Come on now .

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So Will Slaps , Chris

2:47

Rock .

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Jada , I love you . Gi Jane

2:50

too , can't wait to see it . All right , oh

2:54

, richard , oh wow , all right .

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Will Slaps Chris Rock and says keep my

3:02

wife's name out your mouth Will .

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Smith just smack the shit out of me . We're

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like whoa . Wow

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dude , dude . Yeah , it was a GI

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Jane joke that happened .

3:17

He's really fighting for her

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honor . It was almost like a duel , like

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he challenged Chris .

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Rock to a duel Without the stand-out . He's like

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he's a white glove .

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He's like I'm telling you to a duel

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, right ? Okay , so

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that happens . Chris Rock

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makes the special Blah , blah , blah , blah , blah , blah

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, boom , 2023

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. A . Couple of

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weeks ago been circulating past

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two or three weeks . Jada

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Pickett Smith says she did not know

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why Will

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Smith slapped Chris Rock . She

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thought it was a skit , she thought it was playing

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, until when he came back she was like

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, oh wait , he's serious . Well , wait a

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minute . Why is he acting like this ? Because we've been separated

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for seven years . So she's dropping

4:03

beautiful jewels about their relationship

4:05

, about her love for Tupac Tupac

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ellipse now and

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that he was his soul , he was her

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soul partner , soul mate , and how she has always

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loved Tupac . And

4:17

their relationship has really struggled

4:19

. I know

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you like to watch HGTV and all that stuff . Have you heard

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anything about their relationship ? Have you

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been keeping up with it ? Say it .

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Well , I was on YouTube when I

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heard the news that they weren't together since 2016

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. You are on YouTube , man

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, you know . My first thing is you

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know I'm like come on

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now , right , why

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didn't you say that in the beginning with

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you know ? Oh , when he

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slapped an old by the way , that

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ain't my man , we ain't been together for a

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long time she said no , she just sat

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there like looking like if she on

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poetic justice , you know how she looked like

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. It's like

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come on , like come on , come

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on now . She said I was so embarrassed

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by Will and his action that

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man went up there because of you and

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then now you got a whole book out Because of Wait a minute

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. And then y'all said like Wait a minute .

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She may do that . Hold

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up , wait a minute now , she made him do that .

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You know what ? What did he say Don't

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talk about my wife like that . So

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he got up there and made a fool

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out of himself , I

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don't know what . Still to this day

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it's like why did you do that ? And especially

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if she's saying we ain't been together since 2016,

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. I'm confused by that whole situation

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, confuses the crap out of me

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. All I'm thinking is is

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this a big show ? Is this like one big

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reality show that we're being sucked into

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, or are they serious ? It's

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crazy .

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It doesn't make any sense to me . But you know

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what , but you know what Jada

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is . The way she's talking about the relationship

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is that it has

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its ups and downs . I've talked about peaks

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and valleys and stuff , but I feel like Jada

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is showing the true essence

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of what a relationship is Like

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you haven't separated from your partner and

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you know what I'm saying Like still

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kind of dating them , but she was out

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there trying to find yourself at

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the same time still with your partner .

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But you know how many Hollywood

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couples have divorce Wait

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a minute Answer the question . What question

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? I'm just confused

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by the whole , like this whole

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conversation about this with her . Oh

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, she's out there trying to find herself , and

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you know what ? There's tons

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of Hollywood couples that say you know what

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, we're not getting along . I'm not really liking

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you like that . So , deuce is , see you later

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. Or we spent time together , we

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took some pictures , we went to a couple of

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events , we were married

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for a couple of guys , kids . Yeah , I ain't

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like any feeling you like that anymore . Goodbye

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, see you later . Why isn't

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this the same ?

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situation .

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It's like you're coming in , you're

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talking about this entanglement stuff to

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begin to start this

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mess off . We're getting up slapping

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folks and now you're

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talking about you haven't been together since 2016

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. I'm confused . They

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need to stay one way or either

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get a divorce or stay together and quit

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foolishness . I'm confused , I'm just confused

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.

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Well , wait a minute , wait

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a minute . But why isn't there room for

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flexibility , like , why does it

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have to be either we're together or we're not ? One

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thing that Jada said is that I call her friendship

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. Wait

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a minute . She said I never got the relationship

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I wanted and this is from NPR

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, so y'all can look this story up . I

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never got the relationship I wanted . And it's

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funny about Will and I even if the marriage wasn't

7:52

working , there still this level of friendship and

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deep connection between us and I didn't want to

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make a bloodbath , no matter

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what , will and I are always family and we're

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not . That's not going to change . I love

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him , he loves me . We just got to figure

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it out and we're in the process of doing

8:07

that . Like

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, why does it have to be this definite

8:12

? We're either together or not . You've

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heard of couples who are married and sleep in

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separate bedrooms .

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No , in the 1950s

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.

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Yes , you have .

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And not in this generation . You don't . People

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get busy and move on . Or they say

8:28

, hey , what's good

8:30

for the goose is good for the gander . Let's do this

8:32

. This is what our relationship is about . Think

8:35

about who is that Earth

8:38

. I want to say it was an old

8:40

school couple . I wish

8:42

I could figure their name , but they're

8:44

old black actors . But

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they had an open relationship . She

8:49

did her thing , he did her thing , they were together

8:52

, they loved each other . Boom , clear

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cut , clear deal . But

8:57

this whole thing about the

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comp and

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we don't know the ends , let

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me just confess I don't know all the ins

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and outs of the relationship , but

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to say hey , I love you

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, and then air our

9:13

business out in the public

9:15

eye , then how does that work

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? I'm just confused . It's like

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this whole entanglement thing came

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from her , it ain't come from him .

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He ain't up there telling over her Whoa , whoa

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, whoa , whoa . You know what ? Wait

9:28

a minute . You know , real Smith dropped a book

9:30

before her .

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Well , did he talk about her in the book ? I

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mean , did he put her on blast ? I

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didn't see anything on that .

9:41

Yeah , he talked about infidelity .

9:43

Yes , so

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they're getting at each other you

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more up to date on their stuff . I

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have real stuff to do , like real

9:53

comp I want real stuff

9:55

.

9:57

Well , wait a minute .

9:59

This is some Hollywood stories

10:02

? No , this isn't . Oh , come on , how many books did they sell

10:04

? Wait a minute . Come on now . Oh

10:07

you know we all sold millions . Let's look at

10:09

the truth .

10:09

And I'm sure Jay does about to sell millions too . Is

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millions of people that are curious

10:14

about this drama . It's

10:17

like Well , wait a minute . How

10:19

long have you been doing therapy

10:22

? For a while now , right , yep

10:24

? So there are couples that come

10:26

in . You mean to tell me

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, I mean , what are some of the issues that your

10:30

couples face , don't they face ? We're

10:33

not together , but we're acting like we're

10:35

a family . We're married but we've been

10:37

separated . We're trying to figure out . I mean

10:39

, come on now .

10:41

Yeah , yeah , I

10:44

mean I think the normal

10:46

, like normal , everyday folks , people

10:48

who just live a normal life , you

10:51

know the complexities of the relationship

10:53

is pretty different . You

10:56

know nobody's on camera , nobody's

10:58

getting exposed , you know their

11:00

business is kind of happening

11:02

in the background . So the

11:04

story is not the same . People who are high

11:07

profile , their whole relationship

11:09

dynamics is just totally

11:11

different . You know , people have

11:13

to learn how to manage their high

11:15

profile relationships . In

11:18

my opinion this is just my opinion they're not

11:20

managing this relationship right

11:22

. It's in the public eye , it's

11:24

in a book , it's just

11:27

so much stuff going on and

11:29

it's like you know , it's just so much stuff going on , you

11:31

know , is it ? Are y'all really trying to do

11:33

something or are you trying to just ? What

11:36

are you doing ? At the I was , I

11:38

ain't gonna even speculate what you're trying to do . I'm

11:40

just curious of what are y'all

11:42

doing . It's like if you're

11:44

gonna work on a relationship . Work on your relationship

11:46

. It doesn't have to be this big-ass production

11:48

. Come on .

11:50

Yeah , but how does anybody ever know

11:52

what other people go through like ? I can

11:54

appreciate both of their stories because

11:56

in relationship , we

11:59

only have an idea of a relationship based

12:01

off of who we see and Our

12:04

ideal about relationships . Right , because

12:06

you , your parents , were married , you saw

12:08

how your dad acted , how

12:10

your mom acted , right ? You're married , you've

12:12

been in relationships before , so how

12:15

does anybody understand how

12:17

to be in relationship unless there's somebody

12:20

modeling ? So Jada's

12:22

story is a way

12:24

for us to get a glimpse . Like yo , you've

12:27

got these two a-listers

12:29

of actors and actress

12:32

and they are struggling

12:34

in their relationship . Because when you think

12:36

of will and Jada before all this mess

12:38

, you saw the epitome of Perfection

12:41

will is a beautiful man , jada's

12:43

a beautiful woman , right

12:46

?

12:47

Will is a beautiful man

12:49

. I won't say that will

12:51

is a fine , ass man

12:54

fine . He's fine

12:56

tall chocolate , smart honey

12:58

.

12:58

Yeah , all right , we're boosting them

13:00

up , but they are a beautiful

13:02

couple . They made two beautiful kids . He

13:05

had a son before Jada . They

13:07

mended the relationships between the bent

13:10

blended families like Looking

13:12

on the outside it looks great , but

13:15

now All this stuff

13:17

is coming out . So I I

13:19

think you know people need to

13:21

hear that even a-listers

13:23

, even a-listers struggle

13:25

. Even people who have money

13:28

struggles . So it doesn't matter

13:30

money , it doesn't matter religion , it doesn't

13:32

matter income or where you live in

13:34

a world . Relationships are

13:36

hard . So I can appreciate Jada's

13:38

book . I haven't read it yet , but I think I will .

13:40

I Just listen to

13:42

the audio book . I ain't spending my money

13:44

on that . I have audible . Then

13:47

this is not a plug for audible , but

13:49

I do have audible . I'm gonna find us on the

13:51

audible , okay , I'll . I maybe

13:53

listen to 10 minutes of it . If it's start

13:55

off in the wrong direction , I'm shutting her down

13:57

. It's

14:03

a first verse she come out of , but I

14:05

love . I'm okay this time

14:07

to stop it stop .

14:12

We want . Oh , I'm just .

14:14

I'm curious just like okay , how

14:16

much can I listen to ? I

14:18

mean it's ? I don't like to be played

14:20

. That's the number . One is like if

14:23

you're doing things to sell books , it

14:25

just just kind of hint around

14:27

to it , then I can , I can go with

14:29

that , but I don't like to be played

14:32

all of a sudden like boom , here we go , look

14:34

at this . Now Is this

14:36

crazy enough for you ? No , I

14:44

think you trying to sell some books , man

14:46

, it got everybody on board with it's

14:51

brilliant .

14:51

It's brilliant . We've been wanting to know

14:54

like what did Jada think after

14:56

we'll slap the Chris , like we've been

14:58

wanting to know .

14:59

What she gonna say . I won't put it all in my book

15:01

with y'all .

15:03

Yeah , she's

15:06

working on this . For a while she had to wait

15:08

. She didn't even know that was gonna come up . She was like

15:10

hold up , don't put the book out . Yet we got to

15:12

put the slap in , right . But

15:15

I mean , I think we need

15:17

to know because I mean you don't

15:20

have to listen . But I think it's good

15:22

for couples to understand and anybody

15:24

that's in relationship to know , like

15:26

what's traditional

15:29

? Have we moved away from quote-unquote

15:31

traditional relationships ?

15:34

Mm-hmm , I think so , unless

15:36

you're a church going folk .

15:41

What you think church folks got Okay

15:47

okay , like

15:51

my mom you say we you

15:53

know what . You know what that's gonna be

15:55

. Next episode we getting on the church neppus .

15:58

Next episode boom , asia

16:00

gonna be doing that episode by herself

16:02

because Cedric is not going to get

16:04

. He

16:07

said the

16:12

church ain't Everything

16:14

to everybody , but it's something to somebody , and

16:16

who am I to speak on that ? I'm

16:18

not gonna speak on that .

16:21

We . I

16:24

guess we

16:27

could be honest about the church , all right

16:29

. Nevertheless , here

16:32

we are in us in 2023

16:34

, moving into 2024 . Isn't

16:37

realistic to expect ? Quote-unquote

16:39

. Traditional relationships , partners

16:42

together , we get married

16:44

, we stay married , we move

16:46

on and we die till death . Do us part ?

16:49

But you know what ? I want to go back to what you said in

16:51

our previous episode of when

16:54

we were in colors of relationships

16:56

, because you know we're

16:59

gonna play that audio , we're gonna play your little

17:01

bite . When you , when

17:03

you talked about , like Jada's role

17:05

in In

17:07

wheels in that whole slapping incident

17:09

incident , she was looking like

17:11

I think that that's a real

17:13

tell , tell of . I'm

17:16

just confused again . I'm confused like

17:18

okay , what is your role in that she

17:20

doesn't control ? Will I know what you're gonna

17:22

say ?

17:22

So don't say it right , he

17:24

gets to make his choice .

17:29

You know it's like okay , well , sit

17:32

down , sit , put your hands . She ain't

17:34

even you know how they said peace , be still

17:36

. You know you put your hand on somebody lap

17:38

and it's like okay , I know what you

17:41

trying to do .

17:45

I .

17:46

Gentle hand . You know , Don't

17:50

get crazy , sit your butt down

17:52

but that's the thing .

17:53

She didn't know he was getting up .

17:57

The screaming didn't was not a cue

17:59

that he was finna , get ready to get up and

18:01

get on one . Oh yeah , I forgot , he screamed

18:03

keep your , keep my wife , if

18:08

I was Chris rock if I was Chris rock

18:10

, I was like , first of all , that ain't your wife

18:12

, y'all no

18:16

.

18:16

I bet he did Chris rock . No

18:19

well , actually . Well , you know

18:21

what actually . She came , she

18:24

gave a little snippet of the book on how

18:26

Chris rock called her and and

18:29

asked her out because he

18:31

had heard that she was separated

18:34

or divorced from Will . And she told

18:36

him no , that was a rumor . And

18:38

then Chris rock later on said that was a

18:41

lie . He never asked her out . So I

18:43

don't know .

18:44

See , that's , that's right . See , that's the

18:46

whole thing . That's why I'm confused . What are

18:48

we doing here ? It's like I'm

18:50

tired . It's kind of like watching when

18:52

, once you see the Osborn a

18:54

couple times , it's like back in the day that

18:57

show the Osborn . You're like , oh

18:59

yeah , this is crazy . Then after a while it's like

19:01

, okay , y'all are really pushing the

19:03

envelope . What are you doing ? Oh , we've been

19:06

trying to get ratings up . What are we doing ?

19:09

Well , you talk about Ozzy Osborn .

19:10

Yeah , the Osborn , it was a good

19:13

show , but I never Okay

19:15

.

19:18

You over , but no , this is . I mean

19:20

, this is just like with anybody Kim Kardashian

19:22

, with Kanye West , will

19:25

and Jada like that was some true

19:27

love .

19:27

I don't know what I was hurt when they

19:29

broke up .

19:38

See , you play too much . You , you

19:46

know what see . See , and

19:48

this is what we are talking about , ladies , isn't

19:51

it ? We trying to share the issue with man

19:53

, and he's up here just goofing around

19:55

because , at the end of the day , jada

19:59

and will's relationship is

20:01

Non-traditional and maybe

20:03

this might be the , the formula

20:05

for , or the real

20:08

, the reality of relationships . Like

20:10

you could have a life partner . She considers will

20:12

her life partner . Like we may not

20:14

be together at that capacity

20:16

, but he's always gonna be my family .

20:19

Okay , that's a friendship .

20:21

No , it's not . You can still be

20:23

with somebody and not with

20:25

them . That's a situation ship

20:28

.

20:28

I know , but she's making up words . Is she

20:30

going to make up words in a book ? Then we can

20:32

integrate it into our practice , like

20:35

entanglement .

20:36

What word does she make up ? Entanglement

20:38

.

20:39

How was entanglement ?

20:41

It's like yarn , yarn , it's

20:45

like yarn . You know

20:47

it can be unknotted , but it's so knotted

20:49

up that everything is together , and so

20:51

you just kind of get it . It gets complicated

20:54

. You know what ?

20:56

it should have been . She should just

20:58

sit it down . It's okay , go

21:00

make a movie . How about that ? All of

21:02

this stuff is gonna go make

21:04

a movie . Then

21:06

get us all excited about Jada's

21:08

back in the building .

21:10

Oh , yeah , here

21:12

we go Make a movie

21:15

Shut up and just

21:17

make movies . That's what I hear .

21:20

She's a good actor . Come

21:22

on , make some movies , get it like

21:24

do want to do fences , then you

21:26

can really air it out .

21:28

Oh my God , what you say . You want her to do

21:30

a movie about a man that is emotionally

21:32

present yeah .

21:34

Then she can get it out . Then she say you know

21:36

what ? Give

21:39

her my whole experience with

21:41

Will and stuff like that . I've

21:43

learned how to take on this role

21:46

and be passionate about it . That's

21:49

why I won this Oscar that

21:51

Will can't be at because they banned him from

21:53

being at the Oscar shows , but

21:55

shout out to him because I

21:58

wouldn't be able to put this type of energy in Yay

22:01

, put out the book . Let's get

22:03

the book now . Let's get the book rolling out . I want

22:05

to read that .

22:06

Wow .

22:08

What is ?

22:08

this . So

22:13

wait a minute , ladies . If you want to reach out to Cedric , his email

22:15

is Don't email

22:18

me because I won't respond . Email

22:20

him . What he said was

22:23

shut up Jada , Go make you some

22:25

movies . We just want to see

22:27

you act . Get in the kitchen and cook us some

22:29

meals and stop . She is acting now .

22:32

I just wanted to stop acting a fool .

22:34

They need to quit .

22:36

Stop acting a fool . Yeah

22:38

, both of them . I'm not going

22:40

to discriminate . All of them need to sit down somewhere

22:43

. Go lay

22:45

down . I'm tired of seeing the production

22:47

. We don't have to do that . Y'all

22:51

are a star-studded family . Y'all got some talent to people in your

22:53

family . Yeah , I want to

22:55

hear your story . It's good , it's passionate , but

22:58

get it together . I don't

23:00

want to know all of your details of what you got going on . I

23:03

just want to hear your let's

23:05

have a story of victory . We overcame some

23:07

challenging stuff . It's about the narrative

23:10

. What narrative are you selling ? They

23:12

sell the narratives of chaos and

23:15

like . It's like . I don't want to buy

23:17

that . I want to hear a story of resiliency and

23:21

overcoming these challenges that you have and you

23:23

together Be on old , pre-holding hands and

23:26

be doing that . Bring your

23:29

family out .

23:30

We can all cheer you on . Go

23:33

, go go . What you say you

23:36

want them to get on the couch and

23:39

jump up and down like a Look

23:42

at our family .

23:45

Coming back after all that tragedy and all the things

23:47

they've been through . I want to read the

23:49

book about that . I don't want to read the book

23:51

about yeah , you done did all this stuff

23:53

. If I want to do that , I just get on the

23:55

internet and surf . They're my people

23:57

.

23:58

You need to miss . Sure of both . You need the resiliency

24:01

and you need the messiness

24:03

. You need the chaos and

24:06

you need the subtleness of it . You need

24:08

the failures and

24:11

you need the awards . You need a mixture of both , because

24:14

we know that relationships are not straight laced

24:16

. They're not straight

24:19

to the point Relationships are messy

24:21

, man .

24:23

Well , this one is messy on TV .

24:24

I don't want to see that on TV , okay

24:26

, well then , you know what ?

24:27

Don't look I don't want to

24:29

see this . That's why I watch HGTV

24:31

and that's so popular HGTV

24:34

. And that

24:36

gets messy too with those battles To

24:39

see who got the best house . But we

24:41

all shake hands and be friends , but that's not

24:43

the relationship .

24:44

Right , you want to live in a world where

24:47

it's just rainbows and butterflies , and we ? Need

24:49

to be able to see some reality , and

24:51

that's not Okay .

24:53

You can say that again . I want to live in a world

24:55

of what ?

24:56

Rainbows and butterflies .

24:59

Yes , but it's not always rainbows and butterflies . Sometimes

25:03

it's crickets and roaches . Well , haven't we seen a

25:05

lot Over the last four years ? Haven't

25:09

we seen a lot of crickets and roaches ? Can we just have like one year with

25:12

rainbows and butterflies ?

25:13

I'll take that . Okay , well , you

25:16

know what ? Here's my question who is

25:18

your ideal couple when it

25:20

comes to a relationship ? Like

25:22

? You look at them and you're like , oh yeah , I think it's

25:24

together .

25:26

I would say for a young person , lebron

25:29

and his wife .

25:30

Steph .

25:31

Curry and his wife Naisha

25:34

. I wouldn't say Michael Jordan

25:36

and Juanita , but they ain't together no more

25:38

. But they were good . No

25:40

, they're not I think Denzel

25:43

. I don't know who his wife is . I think

25:45

he has a strong relationship . Morgan

25:47

Freeman has a wife that

25:49

he's been with , but I don't hit that

25:52

.

25:52

Let's not get on Morgan Freeman . What's

25:54

wrong with Morgan ? What does he

25:56

do now ? Come on , that's another

25:58

LS .

26:00

Oh , man , you talking about the guy on the

26:02

electric company no .

26:06

No , Morgan Freeman . No , look , you

26:09

do a little bit of research . His

26:11

stuff came up and it briefly

26:13

went under the rug , but

26:15

he yeah , oh , come on .

26:17

Morgan the electric

26:19

company got it . Yeah , why

26:22

are ?

26:22

you referring to him as an electric company . He done

26:24

, made about 20 million movies .

26:27

But that's how I know . I came to

26:29

know Morgan Freeman through the

26:31

electric company when I was a kid

26:33

.

26:34

Come on , man , don't do that . I can't

26:36

play , I hate no counting kangaroo .

26:39

Don't do that . You know something

26:41

we need to just leave alone

26:44

and we can have it .

26:44

We just need to leave alone , okay , well , nevertheless

26:47

, like , you know a few that you look at .

26:49

Well , I take them off the list . Then I take them off

26:51

the list . Do a little bit of research , Do a little bit of

26:53

research .

26:54

Your boy , your boy , flawed out here . All right

26:56

so . But okay , so you

26:58

got a couple of relationships that you look at

27:00

and you're like , oh , that looks pretty steady . So

27:02

thus , that's the butterflies and rainbows that

27:04

you want to see is the building

27:06

, the net and the JZ and

27:09

. Beyonce .

27:11

Oh yeah , they had a fight , but it's okay

27:14

. They're not airing it out in business

27:16

, they're business in the street . They're

27:18

handling it on a personal level . That's what I'm saying

27:21

. It's not that I'm like anti-will

27:23

or Jada . It's like

27:25

I don't want to handle your stuff as your

27:28

stuff , handle it in a private way

27:30

and don't necessarily put your

27:32

business out for sale . It doesn't have to . You

27:34

don't have to put your own . C Beyonce , let

27:37

me put tell her do a tell all book for JZ

27:39

or he's saying let

27:41

me do a tell all book for Beyonce

27:43

.

27:44

Some people gone about give him a couple of

27:46

years and there are .

27:48

If they do that , then I'm going to come back and

27:50

I'm just going to just cry on the radio

27:52

for 30 minutes . How about

27:54

that ?

27:57

Give him a couple of years they coming out with a

27:59

book . Get to because

28:01

we need to see these relationships

28:03

, man . We need to see people

28:05

who we admire and how they

28:07

navigate relationships . That's what autobiography

28:10

is for . What's the point of telling your life

28:12

if you're not going to tell the full parts of it ? I

28:15

appreciate the vulnerability . I appreciate

28:18

the raw and the ruggedness

28:20

of the conversation . It makes everybody

28:22

uncomfortable that Jada is this beautiful

28:24

, successful actress who

28:27

is navigating , like the rest of us

28:29

, difficult relationships

28:31

. There's nothing

28:33

wrong with that .

28:34

Yeah , I mean , I get it . I

28:36

mean , if you're in Hollywood . I guess you got to sell

28:38

a book or two .

28:40

I'm going to sell a book . I'm going

28:42

to write a book .

28:43

Don't you write a tell all . I'm going

28:45

to tell all the story of Asia King . You showed that , go right . You

28:47

showed that , go right because you know what

28:49

the story needs to be told yeah , you should Cheer me on .

28:51

I got a story to tell and I'm ready to tell it Well , I'm

28:54

going to come over your house this weekend .

28:56

You can tell it , I'm going to tell you , I'm going to tell

28:58

you , I'm going to tell you .

28:59

I'm going to tell you .

29:00

I'm going to tell you , I'm going to tell you over your

29:02

house this weekend . You tell me all the stuff you're going to

29:04

put on the book , and then I can put it out before the

29:06

book come out , and then I can make some money too .

29:08

I'm not going to let you filter my information .

29:10

You don't get to tell my story .

29:12

I'm going to tell my story and I think I'm ready

29:14

to tell it . But yeah , but

29:16

no , I think Jada and Will are

29:19

it's very own . I

29:21

think society , I think people are uncomfortable

29:23

with their story . I think they are

29:25

fascinated by their story and I think

29:28

it really just puts this

29:30

reality that I don't . Like

29:32

I said before , no matter the money , no matter

29:34

the status , no matter where you are , relationships

29:37

are messy , they are sticky , and

29:39

no amount of money can

29:42

make happiness True , because they're

29:44

millionaires . They are millionaires

29:47

. So you mean to tell me therapy wasn't

29:49

working ?

29:50

I mean like you gotta actually work in therapy

29:52

and celebrity divorce all the time

29:54

. Yeah , they do . I

29:56

mean , sometimes it's a clean break . Sometimes

29:59

it's a messy break , but they're

30:01

doing it . They're just like George and Weezy

30:03

. George and Weezy , they

30:06

ballad through the D and D up top

30:08

partner in the sky . Yeah

30:11

, they're moving on up , okay

30:14

.

30:14

All right , look y'all

30:16

. This is what happens when you watch ESPN

30:19

and HGTV too much and don't be looking

30:21

at other folks' stuff and trying

30:24

to keep your nose in the business . This is what happens

30:26

you start singing old songs for sitcoms

30:28

.

30:28

So yeah , and it's

30:30

a George .

30:31

Jefferson weekend .

30:32

My takeaway is you know , everybody

30:35

has a story and although

30:37

I get into my little

30:39

judgment of willing and

30:41

I'm gonna say willing grace , but

30:43

that's a whole lot of people but

30:45

willing Jada , I

30:48

think everybody has a story and I agree with

30:50

you , dr Asia , the relationships are

30:52

very difficult and traditional

30:54

relationships , you know . I

30:57

think now they're being defined , they're being

30:59

redefined . Resiliency in relationships

31:02

. So , you know , although I have

31:04

my little funny moments with willing

31:06

Jada , I do believe that you

31:09

know it's something to be said about the

31:11

resiliency and how they able

31:13

to keep their families together

31:15

through these trying time , and I can see

31:17

a lot of power . That's

31:19

very powerful . So that's my

31:22

takeaway .

31:23

Okay , and my takeaway is

31:25

that you know , like

31:29

it or love it , how uncomfortable

31:31

it may be , how exposing

31:35

it may be . Jill and

31:37

Jill , jada and Will

31:40

that's what we're gonna call them , jill .

31:41

Jill , jack and Jill .

31:43

Jill , jill , jill

31:47

, jada and Will's story is needed

31:49

because it helps regular

31:52

folk like me understand

31:55

, like the complexity of somebody

31:57

else's relationship . So I don't feel like

31:59

I'm crazy in

32:01

the struggles I may have with my relationships

32:04

, like you , could you look , you take the meat

32:06

, spit out the bone , take what you

32:08

need , leave the rest . All of her

32:10

story may not be for you . No , I do not have

32:13

$12 million so I can't vacation out

32:15

in Cancun and the Poconos when

32:17

my partner pisses me off , I got to go to the

32:19

basement . So she

32:22

, her story and his story is

32:25

an opportunity to just know

32:27

that money and

32:29

opportunities and fame

32:32

and fortune does not

32:34

transcend a relationship , it

32:37

doesn't make a relationship , it doesn't create a happy

32:39

relationship and you can't keep a relationship

32:42

. So , whether you poor or

32:44

whether you got all the riches in the world , relationships

32:47

take work , got to ride the wave

32:49

, ride the wave , mature with your partner

32:52

going on . So

32:54

I will be listening to

32:56

her book on audio

32:58

and when

33:00

and it is because I'm kind of like you if she say

33:03

one thing , I'm like I'm

33:05

gonna cut this thing off , I'm

33:07

gonna see , I'm gonna push through it , I'm gonna push through

33:09

it . But I'm gonna read Will's book too , because I want

33:11

to give a fair shake on how

33:13

they both experienced and understand

33:16

their relationship .

33:18

So that's my takeaway .

33:20

Will be coming back to that . All right , y'all take

33:23

care of each other and , most importantly , take care of yourselves

33:25

.

33:25

Absolutely Peace , one

33:32

moment .