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Fresh for everyone. Welcome

0:37

to this Friday pop-up show everybody. We

0:39

have a good one here for you. We had

0:42

gotten together with the blurry creature guys,

0:44

the ninjas or butterflies guys, and

0:46

the expanded perspective guys. And we had

0:48

a good hour and a half conversation

0:51

about all the weird things we've covered

0:53

on our shows. And we

0:55

also talk about our upcoming event,

0:57

Squachella, which is going to be

0:59

hosted in Nashville, Tennessee on August

1:01

3rd. And if you want

1:03

your tickets for Squachella before they get sold

1:05

out, you want to go

1:07

to squachella.com to get your tickets because it

1:10

is going to be an awesome event. We're

1:13

going to be at the Fisher Center at Belmont University. And

1:16

this Fisher Center is absolutely

1:18

majestic. There is a

1:20

link in the description of this episode. You

1:22

can click on it. The video showing you

1:25

how beautiful the center is where we're going

1:27

to be doing our live shows in person

1:29

on stage for the audience. I'm super excited

1:31

about this. And also, we haven't talked about

1:33

it on this recording. So I want to

1:36

let you guys know now we do have

1:38

the VIP ticket option, which will allow you

1:40

to have a lunchtime hangout with me and

1:43

all the other shows backstage. There's going

1:45

to be photos, food, get things signed

1:47

all for an hour and a half

1:49

with all the podcasts if you're VIP.

1:52

But this is going to be an awesome event,

1:54

whether you're VIP or not. This is really

1:57

a once in a lifetime event that we've never done before. us

2:00

have ever done this before. We're super excited

2:02

about it and we hope you guys enjoy

2:04

it who come. But I hope you do

2:06

enjoy this conversation I had with these guys

2:08

talking about all the weird stuff we've covered

2:10

on our shows. All

2:14

right, so here we are. We got four

2:16

podcasts on this episode and we're talking about

2:18

something cool. It started in my backyard. I

2:21

called Tony and I said, you know what,

2:23

Tony? I played a lot of music festivals

2:26

back in the day and there

2:28

was a ton of bands. What if we did something

2:30

with a bunch of paranormal podcasts and we had some

2:32

fun name for it. Then a couple of days

2:34

later I was like, what about Squachella?

2:36

And Squachella is

2:39

happening. I was born. Is that how

2:41

it happened, Tony? Or am I have fuzzy

2:43

memories here? I think you pitched Squachella on

2:45

the phone to me and I was like,

2:47

sounds good. No, you were

2:50

pitching it to me on the phone. I was in my driveway. I

2:52

yelled at my wife and said, hey, I'm not overbooked, right? And she's

2:54

like, you're absolutely overbooked. I said, sounds good. Let's do it. That's

2:59

how it started. Yeah. The

3:01

music festivals are fun when back

3:03

in the band days, you get as many people on

3:05

one show as possible and it was an all day

3:07

event, you sweated, you spent like $18 on a bottle

3:10

of water, but you

3:12

had a lot of fun. But what about

3:14

all these podcasts that talk about the big

3:17

guys, Sasquatch, and all the weird

3:19

paranormal stuff out there. We have four

3:21

podcasts at least on Squachella

3:24

so far. We don't know what the special guests are.

3:26

We've been telling everyone it's

3:28

Joe Rogan. I was very nervous.

3:31

You got a special guest. This is no news to me.

3:38

But I guess introduce your podcast and tell

3:40

us your weirdest story. We'll do

3:42

this camp style when you're like go to camp and

3:44

you have to introduce your name and like your favorite

3:46

yogurt or something. Yeah. Should

3:49

I go first? Yes. No,

3:52

Tony. Go, Tony, go. Okay. Name's

3:56

Tony Merkel, host of the Confessionals Podcast

3:59

and started the show. the show seven years

4:01

ago and focusing on people's experiences with

4:03

the strange and unusual. So

4:05

we just sit down, had that conversation. When

4:08

I first started the show, I didn't know how to do anything.

4:10

And I thought I was going to have to be like a

4:12

journalist. So I was trying to sit down and do pre-written questions

4:14

and like, you know, throw out all the

4:16

information. And as soon

4:18

as I threw out the window, just sat down and

4:20

started having conversations with people in the show, I think

4:22

got dramatically better. So that's what we

4:25

do. We sit down, talk to people about

4:27

their experiences and their thoughts on all the

4:29

strange stuff. And as the years have gone

4:31

on, this show has gotten crazier because I

4:34

have come to understand that reality is

4:37

way, way, way stranger than I've ever

4:39

imagined. And, you know, as

4:42

far as crazy stories goes for

4:44

the show, that's like ask me which

4:46

kid is my favorite, you know, because

4:48

we, like, we

4:51

have a lot. So I just, when

4:53

you brought that up, Nate, as a talking point,

4:55

I went to my YouTube channel and I just

4:57

looked up as like my pop most popular shows.

4:59

And the second most popular one is one of

5:01

my ones that I jumped

5:03

to right away. I called it Joshua Tree Portal Cult.

5:06

And I can't even like go

5:08

into the entire story. It was almost

5:10

a four hour podcast. But

5:13

essentially, this guy, he moved from

5:15

Atlanta to LA, he's in the

5:17

film industry, works for Netflix

5:19

shows. And he was

5:22

shortly after he was in LA, him

5:24

and his roommate went to a bar

5:26

one night, got drinks. And

5:28

when his roommate got up and

5:30

went to the bathroom, this other guy came over, sat down with

5:32

him, and just started talking, became

5:34

friends. And his roommate comes back, they're all talking, and

5:36

the bar starting to shut down. And the guy's like,

5:38

Hey, I know there's other places open, you guys want

5:41

to come hang out? And they're like,

5:43

Yeah, sure. So they go to this other

5:45

location. And as they're walking up to it,

5:47

there was like all these like goth looking

5:49

people walking in. And his roommate just kind of got

5:51

weirded out. He's like, I don't think I

5:53

want to go in there. And

5:56

the guy that was on the show with me, his

5:58

name is James, and he just They're like, well, I'll see

6:00

you back at the apartment. You know, this, this dude is

6:02

going to give me a ride back home after we're done

6:05

hanging out. So he goes

6:07

in and that experience there was strange,

6:09

like a lot of weird people and

6:11

weird things happening around him, but

6:13

he didn't really think much of it because James is

6:15

the kind of person he doesn't want to prejudge anything.

6:17

He just kind of really just wants to live life

6:19

and just have the experience and see what happens. You

6:22

know, they're in the car heading back to his apartment. And

6:25

this guy, I forget what we called him on the show. It's called Mark here.

6:29

This guy gets a text message from

6:31

his friend saying that there is a

6:33

party in Joshua Tree. And

6:36

he's like, do you want to go to this party in

6:38

Joshua Tree? At this time, it's like two, three o'clock in

6:40

the morning. And James is like, no, man,

6:42

I kind of just want to go home. I'm tired. Long

6:45

story short, he talks him into going out to

6:47

Joshua Tree. This is a Friday night, I believe

6:49

they arrive in Joshua Tree, let's say five, six

6:51

o'clock in the morning. And it's an entire weekend

6:53

thing. So they spend the entire day there. And

6:56

he gets there shortly after he

6:58

gets there, some guy comes over to him,

7:01

puts a bracelet on him that says VIP.

7:04

And not everybody has VIP, only James and

7:06

like one or two other people had a

7:08

bracelet that said VIP on it. And

7:11

you know, he's just hanging out, chilling for the

7:13

day, they're having drinks and just talking. And

7:16

throughout the day, you get familiar with

7:19

the amount of people that are there

7:21

and the surroundings. There's this

7:23

one girl there who seemed like as

7:25

the day went on, she got more

7:27

and more anxious with anxiety. And

7:30

she was saying things like I can't be here

7:32

tonight, I can't do that again, I can't be

7:35

whatever happened last night. And he's like, what are you

7:37

talking about? She was very vague, she wouldn't tell him.

7:40

And so he's going through the day, and

7:42

he has to go to the bathroom. Now, I

7:44

called the show Joshua Tree Portal Cult. There

7:47

was a very strong urge in me

7:49

to call it the Porta Potty Portal,

7:51

because it all changed when he went

7:54

into the Porta Potty. But

7:56

he goes into this Porta Potty and

7:59

he Just... Take the a league

8:01

it's not very long. He comes back out

8:03

A When he walks out he said there

8:05

is noticeable difference in this surroundings. He said

8:07

there is a he was still there but

8:10

there is a lot more people there than

8:12

there were just two minutes ago. and again

8:14

James's of rule laid back kind of guys

8:16

like of what at whatever he know and

8:19

he's a guy goes rise day. So.

8:22

The. I draw the day there is as

8:24

I guess airbase really excited about the to

8:26

D J's ever shown up. there is to

8:28

like I guess twin D J's or something

8:31

and ah. Dayton. When the

8:33

Dj showed up everybody got really excited. They

8:35

start said enough for the party at night.

8:37

And I'm. At. Some

8:39

point, Through. That processors as other

8:42

guy who told James that. I.

8:45

A man. Listen, I know you don't got a

8:47

whole lot. You just came here randomly. This is

8:49

your bed. Yeah you can sleep on it. it's

8:51

it's for you. This weekend takes a he's like

8:53

off as great man. thanks You know so he

8:55

he has his place to sleep at night after

8:58

the party. He's. Excited and party starts,

9:00

they go into this tent that they

9:02

set up. At. Adidas are

9:04

going and. When. He

9:06

goes in. He. Started seeing

9:08

people. Physically. Transform. Ah,

9:11

demotic entities that his antics

9:13

he was identifying as that

9:15

in the moments are walking

9:17

around him a white. He.

9:19

Slowly really cause vampires I am.

9:22

I think he said people with

9:24

ugh. Yellow. Eyes of some like

9:26

that. There's a lot of weird things and he's

9:28

He's like honor. What the heck's going on here?

9:31

He's he's He's like this is tripping me out.

9:34

He goes outside and I'm skipping a lot

9:36

of information here and a lot by he

9:39

goes outside where the guy who brought him

9:41

his eye is out there with another guy

9:43

and he's like hey you know this is

9:45

this place. Like tripping you guys out there

9:48

like a man, you need to just rest,

9:50

relax and stuff and they kind of walk

9:52

him over to this one truck. For.

9:54

has like this funky in it and it wasn't

9:57

i don't think it was his been said they

9:59

gave him initially actually it might have been

10:01

either way they said why don't you just

10:03

go in there and rest. And so he

10:05

starts to crawl in and he realizes if

10:07

they close the door behind him it locks

10:09

from the outside and he felt real uncomfortable

10:11

with that. So he kind of like hops out and he's like,

10:14

no, I'm good. Cause they started walking away and he walks

10:16

over and they're like, aren't you going to take a nap?

10:18

And he's like, no, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna

10:21

ride it out. And they kind of

10:23

whispered to each other in each other's ears and they're

10:26

just like, all right. And they just go back into

10:28

the, into the tent. And

10:31

at this point, he

10:33

goes over to the guy who said to him about

10:35

the bunk and everything, he starts talking to him and

10:37

the guy's being real rude to him. Like he doesn't

10:39

want to talk to him anymore. And

10:43

at some point around this time, this is

10:45

where it gets trippy. The tent

10:48

shoots straight up into the air and

10:50

a green portal opens up underneath it and

10:53

people are flying up in the air and

10:55

he's, he's freaking out. He runs away.

10:57

He could, he runs into a group

10:59

of people that had, um, we're

11:01

dressed in black cloaks doing some kind

11:04

of seance. And one of the people,

11:06

uh, started laughing at him saying,

11:08

you have no idea what's about to happen to you.

11:10

And he just, he starts running the opposite

11:12

direction and a lot of other things

11:15

started happening to him, uh, that, that

11:17

seemed to present this idea

11:19

that at some point while he was

11:22

during the day there, he

11:24

went through some kind of dimensional shift.

11:26

And we've experienced this on the show

11:28

several times. And, uh, it's funny

11:31

because like when I introduced my show to people

11:33

nowadays, I'm like, where do I even start this

11:35

rabbit hole with you? Um, but

11:38

I've experienced several times with people on

11:40

the show where it seems like not

11:42

on purpose, but accidentally they go through

11:44

dimensional shifts and they don't even realize

11:46

it. Like they, everything seems like normal

11:48

around it, but there's little small things

11:50

that are off that looking back on

11:52

it, it's like they were on some

11:54

kind of like dimensional bridge between realms almost.

11:57

And I think that's what kind of happened with him because At

12:00

some point he's trying to run away from this

12:02

party through the desert and he

12:05

was like there's forces that like he was

12:07

pushing through trying to get out of this

12:09

and. He actually want to

12:11

go through desert a lot of trippy things

12:14

happen on there the ground opening up around

12:16

him he finally make his way to a

12:18

hospital and sitting in a waiting room asking

12:20

for that he asked them to for

12:23

a charger to charge his phone. End

12:26

up his charging his phone and oh by

12:28

the way. During this whole

12:30

thing his phone stop working

12:32

it with you couldn't call not one he

12:34

couldn't call for help it like was down i'm

12:37

it didn't start operating until he was at

12:39

the hospital. Why

12:42

so he goes to this whole ordeal

12:44

and he has a voicemail on his phone

12:46

is from the guy who brought him there

12:49

and the guy is like hey man you gotta just

12:51

disappeared on us we don't know what happened to you

12:54

are you good we don't know where you're at.

12:57

End the voicemail should i ended

12:59

there but the guy forgot to

13:01

hang up the phone and when

13:04

he puts the phone down here is

13:06

this conversation between the two guys saying.

13:09

Do you think he knows what happened

13:11

do you think he remembers what happened

13:13

and all this other stuff like basically

13:15

is like they're trying to see him and. That

13:19

was the i don't know if

13:21

that sounds to people but it is honestly one

13:23

of the most trippy experiences we had on the

13:25

show because of all the things that have been

13:28

able to be validated through this story. I'm

13:31

after i release it. I

13:33

had never heard of crazy but things

13:36

happening in joshua tree after i release

13:38

that i had several people contact me

13:40

with similar stories one guy

13:42

actually came on the show his name

13:44

is james as well and he was in the military

13:47

and he actually. Had

13:49

an experience at this very location years

13:52

before and then

13:54

there's another guy who contacted me who lost

13:57

his mother and decided to go hiking

13:59

in joshua tree. to

14:01

just blow off steam. He goes missing for

14:03

four days and the news covered it that,

14:05

you know, man goes missing and Joshua Tree,

14:07

all that stuff. He sent me the video

14:09

clips of it and they searched

14:11

this area and he wasn't there. And then

14:13

all of a sudden they're searching four days

14:15

later and he's there and they're

14:18

asking like, where did you go? Like we don't

14:20

know what happened. And he's like, I was here.

14:22

And they're like, you weren't here when we came

14:25

through. And he's like, and

14:27

what he said to me in the email, I don't know if he told them

14:29

this. So he said, I was there, but

14:32

I wasn't totally there. I was also

14:34

somewhere else. Like it was like a

14:36

mirror world. And he

14:39

said that there was black cloaked entities that would walk up

14:41

to him and talk to him in a different language while

14:43

he was there for four days. And

14:45

so like something tricky, trippy happens

14:47

in Joshua Tree. I

14:49

got plenty of stories that have happened in the Joshua

14:51

Tree area since I released this show. But yeah,

14:54

Joshua Tree Portal Cult episode 512

14:56

is probably one of my

14:59

favorite trippy episodes we've done. Yeah,

15:02

it gets wild. And it reminds me of music

15:04

festivals. Every time you went into a work tour,

15:07

Porta Potty, you came out and things

15:09

were weird too. Come out and see a lot of

15:11

vampires. That's why you

15:13

don't use Porta Potty. Yeah, I've always said

15:15

that. It made me think of like

15:18

that, those Asian game shows where they put someone

15:21

walks into a Porta Potty and then they roll

15:23

up like a shipping container

15:25

that has like a bunch of dudes and they're like

15:27

at a conference, in a conference meeting. And then they,

15:29

someone walks out and they're like in a meeting like

15:31

somewhere else. They're like, they go back

15:33

in the Porta Potty. Yeah,

15:35

exactly. Dude, I remember those Porta Potties

15:38

were like sought after. Band dudes

15:40

would fight to get into them in the morning before

15:42

they got soiled by the rest of the crew out

15:44

there. And yeah,

15:46

because before entered the mirror realm, because after

15:48

so many times people use it, it just

15:51

creates his own dimension, I think from the

15:53

fumes. Tony,

15:55

what's interesting about that is when it made me think

15:57

at the end, what you're talking about with a guy

15:59

in Joshua. It sounds like a

16:01

little bit like some of the things that David Pilates

16:03

covers on Missing Four in One. Yeah.

16:06

Like you have people that just disappear and then all

16:08

of the areas are covered and

16:10

searched and then they kind of show up back in that area.

16:15

Two, I wonder, you know, we've kind of hypothesized a

16:17

few times in the show about there

16:20

being UFO involvement and Pilates actually has that film,

16:23

Missing Four in One, the UFO connection. The

16:26

dimensional idea is really fascinating that they could sort

16:28

of slip into some other place. We've

16:31

talked about Bigfoot as well in that case where there's

16:33

a little kid that travels like I forget how many

16:35

miles, eight miles over these two mountain ranges and ends

16:38

up instead of a bear took them, right?

16:40

So you have these, but that's a

16:42

fascinating idea that sort of you slip out

16:44

of this dimension into

16:49

somewhere else, then you kind of come back and you come back

16:51

in the same place everyone's looked for you. I

16:53

mean, like you talk about people's experiences with

16:56

certain things and let's just keep it out

16:58

in nature and the Missing Four in One

17:00

stuff. Like people talk about

17:02

how the quiet, the woods just

17:04

go deaf. It's just completely quiet.

17:07

And you know, a lot of

17:09

times people talk about, oh, lots of predators

17:11

in the area and that's why everything goes

17:13

quiet. And I just had this conversation with

17:15

Wes last night from Sasquatch Chronicles and he

17:18

and I were talking about this very thing. And

17:22

he said to me that, you know,

17:24

he's been hunting. I've never been hunting in

17:26

my life, but he's been hunting

17:29

and he had a chance. You're Tennessee Tony

17:31

now. So everything's changing. Yeah. Well,

17:33

I got two pigs in my backyard and we're processing soon.

17:35

So, you know, is that hunting? I don't know. I've

17:38

kind of cornered him for a year long term.

17:42

If you did it blindfolded, it's hunting. Perfect.

17:46

Okay. I'll just make sure it clears back a little

17:49

bit. Yeah. I mean, like

17:51

he talked about the environment shift and the quiet

17:53

down and how a lot of times people talk

17:56

about, you know, the predator idea and,

17:58

you know, Maybe

18:00

this is i think me talking more

18:03

than anybody else but maybe it's

18:05

not necessarily that a predator is in

18:07

the area and that's why i think

18:10

it's quiet maybe. You're

18:12

experiencing some type of dimensional shit a

18:14

lot of times people have these experiences

18:17

when everything gets quiet. It's

18:19

a naturally quiet and if it's just a

18:22

predator in the area like that doesn't like

18:24

the way people describe it at least. I

18:27

don't think that happens when a bear is an area

18:29

when it covers an area like it's like a pin

18:31

drop and maybe

18:33

it does but i think that

18:35

there's a strong possibility that you know what

18:37

along the lines of the mental shift and

18:40

stuff maybe that's what people are experiencing with

18:42

the missing for one stop. I'm

18:45

data pilates talks about this very

18:47

thing and how if

18:49

you have this experience where everything

18:51

gets quiet environment changes around you.

18:54

Stop walking if you're with somebody to

18:56

sit your butt down the ground your

18:58

back against each other and wait it

19:00

out don't move let it pass and

19:03

so to me that says that there

19:05

could be some kind of dimensional shift

19:07

happening. End you

19:10

know we talk to people about you know a

19:12

lot of this kind of stuff and

19:15

how you know even through lucid

19:17

dreaming. You can

19:19

accidentally astral project when your

19:21

actual projecting that happens

19:23

in another realm and people

19:26

have experiences where they don't mean to do it

19:28

it just happens i had a guy in my

19:30

studio here. Two months ago

19:32

who accidentally through lucid dream projected to

19:34

my house and accurately described how my

19:36

drop my driveway is my house looks

19:39

like he drew my house for me.

19:42

And like there is a whole thing with that new that's

19:44

the weirdest story i don't know i'm but

19:46

i'm a stalker then that's not.

19:49

I've done my best to verify it i am

19:51

ninety nine percent sure he isn't and i do

19:53

tell him when i talk to my phone if

19:56

you're stalking me bro we have a problem with that i

19:58

want you to have like. near-death

20:00

experiences and then they say after the

20:02

near-death experiences, then they get thrown

20:04

into the astronaut a lot. And, uh, you

20:06

know, that's, that's, that's, that's definitely the most

20:09

bizarre, some of the more

20:11

bizarre stories we've heard on our show too. But

20:13

speaking of, speaking of the woods and hunting, we've

20:15

got our boys and expanded

20:17

perspectives who, I mean,

20:20

I feel like you guys are more of a hunting show, you guys

20:23

could have a massive hunting show, but you also do

20:25

a paranormal show as well. And,

20:28

uh, tell us, tell us

20:30

some, some weird stories that you've heard on your

20:32

podcast. Okay.

20:34

Yeah. I think probably the

20:36

wildest story that I've heard, cause we've

20:39

heard a lot of wild stories, as you guys know, when

20:41

you start doing a show, the bigger you

20:43

get more and more stories start coming your way. Like in

20:45

the beginning, we'd have to dig for them, but now they

20:47

just have to discard. Have you guys been a podcast again?

20:49

Yeah. I was going to say, I've been at it. Almost,

20:51

almost 11 years every week. Two

20:54

shows a week for almost 11 years. And,

20:57

uh, and you guys are still friends. Yeah.

20:59

We're best friends. We grew up, I've known you since

21:01

the sixth grade. I still lived probably 400 yards from

21:03

him. Uh,

21:05

Caddy corner across the park. Uh,

21:07

we hunt on the same deer leaves together. We do,

21:10

we do everything together. Our kids grew up together. Um,

21:13

he has, you know, I have guys up there to fish. No,

21:16

it's like Brokeback Mountain. We camp out and snuggle

21:19

in our, in our sleeping bags. I

21:21

kiss each other. Do you not do that with your friends?

21:24

You don't do that with your friends? I'm just going to

21:26

go hunting and just wake up in a porta potty the

21:28

next morning. I don't know. Tony,

21:31

you want to go hunting with us? I,

21:35

we don't know. Our first plan night,

21:38

that's, that's the night's plans for the first night

21:40

when we get there in August. So that's perfect.

21:42

I guess I'll bring it in porta potty. Yeah. Yeah.

21:45

Yeah. So we got into podcasting

21:47

because I worked for myself and I'm in

21:50

a car all day by myself and when

21:52

cam, he used to work for a municipality

21:54

around here. And he was in his, his

21:56

car all the time by himself. And you

21:58

know, when he listened to radio, it's just the same. songs

22:00

on a loop over and over. Then

22:02

if you listen to sports talk, it's just everybody

22:04

crying about the local team. It

22:07

got real boring. He was like, do you know what

22:09

a podcast is? This was back in the day where

22:11

the iPod looked like a big cigarette lighter. I'm

22:13

like, it didn't even have a screen on it. You'd

22:16

have to go through iTunes, you'd have to find

22:18

what you wanted. There wasn't that many shows. You'd

22:20

have to download it. Then we would

22:22

listen to it, he would listen to it and then we'd call

22:24

each other all giddy. Man, what did you think about that story?

22:27

Much like Nate had an epiphany about Squachella,

22:30

one day we were in the backyard and we're like, why don't we

22:32

try to podcast? In the beginning,

22:34

we had to collect gear. We didn't know how to do it. There wasn't

22:36

that many shows out there even doing

22:38

it. When we tell people what we were doing, we'd

22:40

have to say like internet radio because nobody

22:43

knew what podcasting meant. We didn't

22:45

think it would go anywhere. We're just doing

22:47

it as a hobby, but it just slowly

22:49

started building. Here we are 11

22:51

years later. But I think for

22:53

me, the craziest story

22:55

I've heard is Cam's friend

22:58

that had the exciting with the little people.

23:00

If you want to come back to Little Hunter. Yeah. I

23:04

haven't seen him in a while. I said I call

23:07

him Doc and I've hunted with him. I've been on

23:09

this place before. It's

23:11

down in South Texas. It's down along the Southwest

23:14

Texas border as you get down into La Cazona

23:16

and all that as you're making your way over

23:18

into Mexico. This dude

23:21

is a known, the easiest

23:23

way I always tell everybody is he's a

23:25

construction contractor is what he's always done. He

23:28

was no BS about anything. He's an old-school

23:30

guy. He's, I think, about to

23:32

sell the business. He's an older dude, never

23:35

really into this stuff. Then when he found out,

23:37

of course, his wife found out about us doing

23:39

the show and I'll let it led to this.

23:41

One day, we're all hanging out and she's like, you're

23:43

going to have to tell him. He starts telling me a

23:45

story that starts

23:48

out as, it

23:51

almost feels almost like he's pulling my leg. As

23:53

it gets in, you start getting more and more

23:55

to where you're like, this dude's not playing. He

23:57

didn't even want to talk about it. ended

24:00

up having an encounter witnessing

24:02

more than once 18-inch tall

24:04

Native Americans. They

24:07

were moving around. He found the first

24:09

story that it talks about is there

24:11

was a, well, it looks like a

24:13

water trough, a concrete water trough that's buried in the

24:15

ground. So it was poured that way

24:17

for the wildlife out there. So

24:19

it's because it's, you know, it's hot and dry,

24:21

this whole thing. So there's javelina, there's turkey, there's

24:24

a white tilled deer. There's a lot of this

24:26

out there. So it was poured. So you can

24:28

walk in there and it looks like powder around

24:30

the sides of this in ground

24:33

water trough because everything comes to it. He

24:36

said he was up there one day and

24:38

there were what he thought were toddler tracks,

24:40

but they were little tiny footprints. And he

24:42

can tell like little human footprints. So

24:45

he freaks out. He thinks, is there a kid out

24:47

here? Like what's going on? He starts looking. The

24:49

tracks lead off into the grass and that's it. He gets

24:52

real eerie, creepy feeling fast forward.

24:54

There's some things go missing around the

24:56

deer camp. Life turns up all

24:58

the time. Little pieces of stuff missing that

25:01

you wouldn't think anything of. Nothing major like

25:03

the cap off of like a, of a,

25:05

like a rattle can, a spray paint can

25:07

caps gone or a sockets missing or little

25:09

things like that's gone easily misplaced. Jump

25:13

into it's like around the rut. He's up in the

25:15

back part of the town. It's cold weather this time.

25:17

He's glassing over into this huge valley

25:19

back behind him and

25:21

he sees what he thinks is javelina moving up

25:23

the side of a hill, you know, and it's

25:25

several hundred yards away. He gets

25:28

to looking at it. He said, it's not. So what it

25:30

turns out to be, and it looks like an older native

25:32

American man and like two or three others and

25:34

they're making their way up this hill. They're wearing like clothing.

25:37

They look like they have like skins on

25:40

all of this, but they're literally tiny.

25:42

They're less than two foot tall as

25:44

they're making their way through there. So he

25:47

watches it. Can't believe it. Doesn't

25:49

tell anybody. Still doesn't really bring it all up because he's like,

25:51

look, the guys I hunt with, you know, you can't talk about

25:53

this stuff. You know, they're going to just run him out of

25:55

there. Like, well, what are you doing up here by yourself? You

25:57

just getting lit and then just going out on your own. You

26:01

jump in there again, it's during spring turkey

26:03

season. And he said he starts

26:05

calling on these turkey. They start making their way

26:07

on there. He's trying to get where he can cut them off. So

26:10

he hops off into this dried creek. And

26:13

it's one of those ones, you know, when it floods

26:15

out there, of course, there's water and otherwise there's never

26:17

water in it. So it's all sandy bottom. He

26:20

said he's down and the reason he gets off in it

26:22

is because it's lower than the ground so he can get

26:24

down below the turkey eyesight and then he can move up,

26:26

try to get ahead of them. He's

26:28

calling them into him. He works his

26:31

way around. He said the creek makes a big bend to

26:33

the right. He said, as it makes a bend to the

26:35

right, he kind of looks up and at this point, he's

26:37

probably less than 20 yards from

26:39

like three of these little Native American

26:41

guys standing there just on the

26:43

lower edge of that creek looking right at him. He

26:45

said one of them was like carrying a rabbit. It

26:47

looks like it's been killed. They got it

26:49

all tied up and it's like slung over with the string.

26:52

They've got their gear. They got stuff. He said

26:54

one of them looks like it's wearing like the

26:56

cap off of that spray paint can.

26:59

It's like tied up and hanging off of his belt. I got

27:01

to know if they use it for a cup. I don't know

27:03

what they use it for. He says

27:05

he sees them and they freeze and he goes it.

27:08

The look on their faces was

27:10

they can't believe he sees them. It's

27:12

almost a pure shock that not that

27:15

they got found, but that I can't believe he sees

27:17

me. He said he

27:19

just freezes. He's in full camo camo face

27:21

mask. He's in everything like just froze there.

27:24

He said the feeling that he got

27:26

was it was so strange because it

27:29

was a warm feeling, but he

27:31

said it was like looking at a very

27:33

majestic like painting or

27:36

to be in the presence of this. He

27:38

said it felt like it was old. Like what

27:41

I'm in is something that's been here way

27:43

longer of whatever this feeling

27:46

is. He said he just nodded

27:48

at him and kept going. Never

27:50

paid any attention. He said they watched him leave

27:53

and then took off. That was like 2016. I

27:56

think 2017 right around there. I've

28:00

spoken to him a few more times and he has never

28:02

seen them since. He was like

28:04

that interaction was the last time that

28:06

anything ever happened. So we'd had it spotted. He

28:08

had talked to a few guys on there. I

28:11

don't know that any of them ever came for, I don't

28:14

think any of them ever had seen anything they knew about

28:16

missing stuff to tell things that happened

28:18

in and around their stuff. But that was it.

28:20

But he said after that point, nothing

28:23

went missing. Nothing had, they

28:25

never saw him. They never saw any sign of them

28:28

being on that place. Now, we also tying

28:31

into that story had another story of

28:33

a fellow that was remodeling an old

28:35

ranch house down not far from

28:38

this area, probably within 50 miles

28:40

or less of where this all took place.

28:43

He said he goes in there one morning way before daylight's

28:45

in the summer. They're going to get started at daylight because

28:47

it's so brutally hot. He goes

28:49

in there. He said his, they were putting

28:51

all their tools in five gallon buckets and just leaving them

28:53

in there, whatever they chalk lines and all this stuff as

28:56

they were framing and doing all this work. He

28:59

said he goes in there and it's, you know, barely can

29:01

see and the buckets had been turned

29:03

over and stuff scattered everywhere. So he was like,

29:05

well, I guess the coons came in digging through

29:07

stuff. Maybe somebody left something and

29:09

they got them. But he goes, he goes to look

29:12

and it notices there's stuff scuffling around inside there, goes

29:14

out some of them, you know, where they hadn't put the windows

29:16

in yet, jumps out the holes and takes off. At

29:19

this point, he says, he starts seeing this chalk line

29:21

of his, you can not the same guy. This isn't

29:23

the same dude that saw him the first time. This

29:26

is a different guy. He starts noticing

29:28

this chalk line in there. He said it's strung out in

29:30

the mesquite trees and all that. He goes out there. There's

29:33

three or four, again, two foot tall,

29:35

what looked like natives or

29:37

brownies or dewindies or however you want to

29:39

describe them in the,

29:41

this little mesquite flat watching. And he said,

29:43

they have been taking little things of theirs

29:46

of whatever was in this bucket and spooked

29:48

and ran off. He said, after

29:50

that encounter, we never had anything else go

29:52

missing. Nothing else. We never saw another sign,

29:55

whatever it is. So whatever's down in there is like

29:57

the land that time forgot. And you

29:59

can see. flip off down in there and sometimes get some

30:01

of that. So yeah, that's one of my, I

30:04

would have thought it was straight BS if I

30:06

not sit there and had him tell me, was

30:09

one of those like, he didn't want to even talk about

30:11

it. His wife's the one that forced it on him to

30:14

talk about it. And then after that, was

30:16

that warm feeling was

30:19

the warm feeling that he had? Was he peeing

30:21

his pants? Cause that's probably exactly what I felt.

30:23

Yeah, right. Probably a hundred percent. Yeah. It was

30:25

a porta potty when you need it. Well,

30:28

he's talking about it. He's not a romantic

30:30

guy, right? Like we're talking about a dude

30:32

that, you know, he's quite a,

30:34

he's older, not a romantic dude,

30:36

like I said, no nonsense, straight, hard work and

30:38

do. So when he started talking

30:40

about having these feelings, it

30:42

was very strange for him to be like,

30:44

man, it felt like

30:47

wholesome. It felt warm. Like it felt

30:49

in, like this is the way things

30:51

are. Like it wasn't an eerie

30:53

feeling, a negative feeling. He was like, I

30:55

felt honored to even be there to

30:57

get to see this at the whole

30:59

thing. And I said, so what did you do? Cause

31:01

he's like riding, he rides a bike. So he like

31:04

rides his, I don't mean to motorcycle a bicycle. So

31:06

he like rides his bicycle down in there. So there's

31:08

no smell, there's no sounds you can slip around. So

31:10

he was slipping around like a ninja the whole

31:12

time. Right. And that's what

31:14

he was like, man, I didn't know what to

31:16

do. He said, I nodded my head and took off. And

31:19

just the way he talks about it, he was like, I

31:22

didn't know any way to react after it was all

31:24

over. The funny part is after

31:26

that encounter, he said he left, didn't

31:28

even hunt the Turkey, got back up, got on

31:30

his stuff, went all the way back to the

31:32

camper or back to the camp, started loading stuff

31:34

up. He was like, I don't know what I'm

31:36

supposed to do next. And it is, that's

31:39

why his wife was like, you're going to have to tell him

31:41

because it kind of threw him for a curve. He's like,

31:43

I don't have any idea what just happened. I

31:46

love it. Of course you do. Of

31:48

course you do. He just made Nate stay camp.

31:51

Nate has this weird obsession with the little people.

31:53

We talk about him our show often. Same. Yeah,

31:55

same. I mean, and we know that like homo-fluoriensis

31:57

is scientifically proven as a little person. Yeah. That

32:00

you know that they found in Indonesia and it's

32:02

proven that they've had that and just like Tony

32:05

and Luke were talking about with Parallel dimensions and

32:07

the missing four and one and stuff

32:09

a lot of the sightings of these little fae folk It

32:12

makes you wonder are there parallel dimensions?

32:14

It's something that's bled through because oftentimes

32:16

in these cases The

32:19

the the creatures are little things that are seen

32:21

they say these gnomes whatever they look like They

32:24

seem shocked like why can you see me? You're not

32:26

supposed to be able to see me and they're just

32:28

as shocked as the person that witnesses it And

32:31

so it's like what is that? I mean,

32:33

there's all kinds of cases from all over

32:36

the UK Especially of people seeing these little

32:38

gnomes Like in their

32:40

gardens or sprites they go by lots of different names,

32:42

but it's only for a few seconds It's

32:45

and Kyle it's interesting man. Like what

32:47

you were saying about about this reminds me of a

32:49

story that we we didn't do on the show But

32:53

I go fishing up in Fort Smith, Montana

32:55

at a place called refuge and they're near

32:57

to that there's a big ranch and There's

33:01

a bunch of really old hardened cowboys

33:03

that work this ranch out there and they have stories

33:05

of the Dwinde out there They see and these are

33:07

like it would be to me the

33:09

same thing you're describing this guy Like

33:12

these are like no nonsense Work

33:14

their whole lives work hard But

33:17

they have these stories that they're real relaxing to tell

33:20

but they've told some of the guides that that we

33:22

work with when we go fly fishing up there and said

33:24

there's these old boys up on the ranch and

33:27

they swear and you have to give them to talk about and they

33:29

won't talk about unless they know you but we've

33:31

we've hung with them a few times and they will tell

33:33

stories of these little people and it is like a No,

33:36

not so these are guys aren't we even tall tales to

33:38

impress some fishing guides like these guys are Dead

33:41

serious that there are there are things out there

33:43

and this is on like the crow Nate. This

33:45

is on Crow Nation land So

33:48

you have some sort of weird things Also

33:51

happen on reservations with yeah,

33:54

we have several Dwinde stories that come just

33:56

like that. It's like New Mexico We've got

33:58

to say some cultures treated it as like

34:00

an omen. I know this guy that was doing

34:02

seismic surveys in Arizona, they were on a reservation.

34:04

For whatever reason, they had a bunch of guys

34:07

they had hired that were Brazilian and

34:09

they come running down the hill because they saw a

34:11

duende and they quit, left the job site

34:13

and never came back. So to them, it

34:15

was like, it's an omen. It's something that they don't

34:18

want to mess with. It's a harbinger for something bad's

34:20

going to happen. Those guys said they thought it was

34:22

a raccoon at first, walking on

34:24

its back feet. The words were

34:26

a small duende or little person, but it had like

34:28

a rabbit or a coon pelt that

34:30

it was worn. Had a little walking stick, the

34:32

whole thing. These dudes like seven grown men, the

34:35

last man out of there. It's gone. That's

34:38

what I was going to say. So we were in Peru and

34:41

Luke and I took a

34:43

trip with podcasts, some of our

34:45

fans to Peru last summer. And

34:47

we're coming out of a John Tatumbo with some of

34:49

those huge smash massive stones. And there's this marketplace and

34:51

this guy has these little gnome

34:54

statues that he's selling. And

34:56

Tim Albarino's with us and I'm like,

34:59

ask him in Spanish if he's seen these things.

35:01

And the guy then begins to tell a story.

35:03

He's like down to the deer. He's like 18

35:06

years ago, I was up in the mountains here

35:08

in Peru and I saw one

35:10

and it was walking over the hill and they're

35:13

real. And then he said the same thing. He took

35:15

off because it's a bad sign. When you see one

35:17

of these things, good things do not happen. So you

35:19

don't want to interact

35:21

with the little people. That's

35:23

for sure. And it's funny how you can

35:25

have these stories on these shows of giants,

35:27

people running into giants and then people running

35:29

into these little tiny Native Americans. And it

35:32

just makes you scratch your head of what's

35:34

possible and what's out there. It's

35:36

a 400 pound, eight foot tall Harry Homine can hide

35:38

out there. I'm sure an 18 inch tall Dwindy wouldn't

35:40

have a real move off here. Yeah,

35:42

those four guys. Yeah, we've had people tell

35:45

us that they've had stuff missing like in

35:47

the cam story, stuff around the house. And

35:49

if they started leaving little gifts,

35:52

then like all the machinists would go away.

35:54

Like whatever it was liquor, little things like

35:56

that out for them to the whole party.

36:00

little shots of fireball. Yeah.

36:02

I don't know if you want to do any of these.

36:06

Already you get them with, dude, that's all it'd

36:08

be like getting a toddler drunk. That's the worst idea.

36:10

Then they just start multiplying. Then you have a bunch

36:12

of them at your house and then you got to

36:14

deal with them. And then the neighbor had as a

36:17

problem. HOA gets involved. All right. Then they're throwing a

36:19

party in the hospital tree. Yeah. Raj

36:22

door comes up. They all take off. You got to

36:24

kind of round them up. Like you heard him say,

36:26

next thing, you're headfirst in a port of body in

36:28

the fourth dimension. And it's just a bad day. They're

36:32

like, just where we go. I bet you Tony, you

36:34

could start a business where you just get a flatbed

36:36

trailer, put a port of potty on it, called port

36:38

of potty. Just drive it around. Portal party charge 10

36:40

bucks to go in and see what happens. I

36:43

think y'all need to copyright the name portal potty rat man.

36:45

I think, I think that might be a plan. That's a

36:47

good business plan right there. I think we start that up

36:50

and see what, how, if it takes off, we can do

36:52

a tour. Let's just do one

36:54

at Squatchella. Yeah. Like a special port of potty.

36:58

Make it a vendor truck. And

37:00

the portal potty. It's like those

37:02

fortune things you pay for the fortune, you get it,

37:04

you go on the port of potty and you get

37:06

like some interdimensional message. You open the door and soul

37:08

fans there. That was a key chain that shaped like

37:11

a turd. That's

37:13

just the ring. I

37:17

think you've come to our brainstorming session. The

37:19

portal potty. The portal potty. Tony,

37:21

you should have them bring a port of potty for the stage.

37:23

And when you start your segment on the side, Just come out

37:25

of it. Come out of the potty. I'll

37:28

wheel it out. Yes. And I

37:30

don't know how I do it. This

37:34

Joshua, you're scared. You guys are missing right

37:36

now. Oh, and again, Tony comes up. But,

37:38

uh, let's, let's shift up north here to

37:40

the, uh, well, actually I guess south deep

37:42

south in the floor. We

37:45

got the ninjas or butterflies guys here. You guys are,

37:47

uh, tell us a little about yourself. How long you've

37:49

been a podcast, how you got started and, uh, sing

37:52

us a song. Dang it. Come on. That's what we

37:54

came for. So

37:56

yeah, we're ninjas or butterflies. Um,

37:58

scribe ourselves as drag. Jack of all

38:00

trades and masters of all of them. Every

38:03

single one. Yeah. We're

38:05

very skilled in so many things. Everything

38:08

we say is true. Everything we say is 100% true. Definitely

38:11

not a joke. 80% of the time. No,

38:14

we started this podcast, what, a year and a half ago?

38:17

Fall of 2021. Yeah. We're

38:19

about 90 episodes in now. Yeah. And

38:21

we just started it because we wanted to

38:24

start a podcast talking about whatever. That's why

38:26

we named it Ninjas or Butterflies because it

38:28

means absolutely nothing like our podcast but

38:30

also means everything. And it

38:32

does mean everything. Yeah. A lot of

38:35

people. Yeah. No, we just. We

38:39

talk about comedy, conspiracy, and that's the big

38:41

thing is we just try to find the

38:44

funny in it. And so

38:46

a lot of times there's it's we're not talking anything intergalactical

38:49

or spiritual and it's just poop stories

38:52

and talking about our everyday lives and what's happening in

38:54

the news. And then suddenly Josh is like,

38:56

by the way, everything that you've ever known

38:58

is wrong. And this is why. And there's a conspiracy that

39:00

we just dive into. And so it's been really fun because

39:03

like you said, like we used to be able to have

39:05

to go out and search a ton

39:07

and Josh still does a lot of that studying. But

39:09

a lot of it we've been getting like, hey,

39:11

recommendations from a lot of people. So

39:15

that's the cool thing is I know that we're never going to

39:17

run out of material. Yeah. You guys have been doing it for

39:19

11 years. So I know that's got to be huge,

39:22

like a wonder, like, man, what are we

39:24

going to talk about on our thousands, thousands

39:26

episode or whatever it may be. The

39:28

physical weight to the hard drive. Yeah,

39:31

exactly. No,

39:33

but we have fun with it. I love

39:35

I'm obsessed with everything that doesn't

39:37

make sense. And that's why I

39:40

love all of y'all's podcasts. And we

39:42

steal a lot of material from you

39:44

guys. And just we give

39:46

like the spark note versions of all of your

39:48

stories pretty much. Yeah,

39:51

we take out all the stories anymore. No one knows what

39:53

spark notes is. No one knows that is anymore. We're too

39:55

old. Just like a pay phone. Sorry, Josh is 50 years

39:57

old. I am. Yeah. I

40:00

mean, but as

40:02

far as stories go,

40:05

we've had just so many like

40:07

special personal stories. Like you've had UFO sightings,

40:09

one of our favorite episodes is me telling

40:11

a ghost story that that

40:14

happened to me, but it was one of those things where a

40:16

lot of the time I just didn't think that door was ever

40:18

even there. You know that I didn't

40:20

believe in ghosts, don't believe in aliens, that kind of

40:22

things. But then when certain things

40:24

happened to you, obviously, right? You're like, man, this

40:26

the door that didn't even know existed just opened

40:29

up. And now I'm questioning everything. And so that

40:31

was kind of my, because I came

40:33

from just like, I just want to have fun. I would goof around. And

40:35

then we would just get into these stories. And then Josh

40:37

would be like, have your thought about this? And

40:39

Andrew would be like, yeah, but this has

40:41

a certain meaning. And it's like just this domino

40:44

effect of just deeper and deeper conspiracies

40:46

or maybe different meanings

40:48

that were just

40:50

right in front of our faces the whole time. I don't

40:53

know. Yeah. I love it. I've

40:55

seen what I know

40:57

of two UFOs for sure. And

41:00

the second time I peed all down my leg.

41:03

So yeah, we were naturally outside

41:05

of Murfreesboro, Tennessee and a cabin. Just

41:07

that night before I had this

41:10

weird interaction when I was just outside

41:12

and we're literally in rural, like there's

41:14

no neighbors. We are in the middle of

41:16

the Tennessee wilderness. And

41:18

I like I'm on the phone and I see like this weird

41:21

black shadow thing. And I hear the, I'm on gravel

41:23

and I hear the gravel over, start running towards me.

41:25

It's moving towards me and I get louder and louder.

41:27

I look, all I see is black figure and I'm

41:29

like freaking out. I'm like, get off the phone. I

41:31

go inside. And then later that night, Josh, is that

41:33

two o'clock in the morning? Yeah. I

41:36

was, I was, um, peeing off the front deck and

41:39

I felt like something was

41:42

like watching me and I look and

41:44

there was just this orb above the trees.

41:46

I'm like, yo, what the heck? I'm

41:49

like, is that a star? Cause it looks like it's like super

41:51

close. All of a sudden I just went like, and

41:54

I just shot off over the horizon. And

41:56

that's where I peed all on my leg and ran inside.

41:58

And then he looked behind him and there was another light

42:00

in the corner, but that was the Airbnb camera

42:02

that was recording him, apparently the whole time. So

42:05

like, sorry, we picked off your deck. You

42:07

know, yeah, we can pick that. You can

42:09

see that video online now. It's fantastic. Yeah.

42:13

Yeah. I

42:15

think I think my favorite story though that

42:17

we've told is Andy, your ghost story, because

42:19

we were filming a Halloween episode and he's

42:21

always told this story where there's a voice

42:24

recorded and he always heard it. Like my

42:26

name's Keegan. As the story goes,

42:28

it was a recorder that was in a

42:30

room he walked into on a ghost tour.

42:32

This is very long story short, but he

42:34

plays the recording on the podcast for the

42:36

other guests who were listening. And it

42:38

was the first time we had headphones on and like, listen to

42:41

it. And I'm like, hold on. Being

42:43

another guy, we looked at each other. We're like, that

42:45

didn't say my name's Keegan. We're like,

42:47

at the same time, would you hear? We both

42:49

said Andy Danoo. And so

42:51

he's telling this ghost story with no idea

42:53

that his name is in

42:55

the recording. Yeah. We've told

42:58

the story for two or three years before that when

43:00

I moved down here. And

43:02

when the recording came through, it was

43:05

a weirdly weird night. It kind of opened doors

43:08

for me. It was Halloween night. It was

43:10

super dumb of me to do this, just to tag

43:12

along in this ghost tour with my friend. And

43:15

looking back now, but when we've listened to the recording,

43:17

he's like, hey, I have this. And I think this

43:19

is what it's saying. So in my mind, it's like,

43:21

my name is Keegan. All these things were like, what

43:23

is this ghost? You know, this little girl Keegan, poor

43:26

girl. And then so we've always told

43:28

that story. And then no joke, we had the one we

43:30

redid on the podcast. We had people who had never heard

43:32

the recording before. And so they're like, oh, wow.

43:34

You know, they heard it. That's super scary. But then I'm like,

43:37

wait, you guys are hearing something different.

43:39

Yeah. They're like, no, we heard your name. I'm like,

43:41

no, no, no, no, there's no way. Do you have it? Yeah,

43:43

I can find it. And then he plays

43:45

it. And I think

43:47

we both you can see it. I'm so glad we

43:50

were recording because it was happy. Which

43:52

is everyone fear. Yeah. And his

43:54

buddy that did this ghost tour thing, he's like a

43:57

professional ghost hunter or something. Like

43:59

amateur. Yeah, but he just does he

44:01

has all the proper equipment. He's had very

44:03

little success but he wears like

44:06

the jumpsuit with the backpack and the big gun that like

44:16

Just don't worry. Oh wait Jeez,

44:20

you know, oh that was not the good

44:22

way. So, okay. All right, here is So

44:32

when you hear that we can't like that Because

44:35

I thought we said my name is Keegan, but if you listen

44:37

to it again, I was just like now now my buddy Can't

44:39

not hear it either So

44:44

scary so terrified But that's the thing

44:46

is like well We can't explain that like I can't

44:49

and so it's hard for me to wrap my mind around or still

44:51

be in denial of like You know this

44:53

certain spiritual realm not existing and you know on

44:55

earth as we we play it up in movies

44:58

and stuff like that But I'm like that felt

45:00

very much like a horror movie and that felt

45:02

very scary. So, yeah Just

45:05

fun. They like light-hearted stuff Light

45:08

work Did you did you

45:10

notice any anything happening after that experience that

45:12

you picked up that? EVP and

45:14

stuff did anything like they talk about hitchhiker effects and

45:17

stuff like that I mean, did you

45:19

ever have any other experiences? I don't know anything about

45:21

a hitchhiker He told me like you

45:24

guys prayed and stuff like hey, you don't have or

45:26

he's like, yeah, he mentioned Yeah, he

45:28

has that he had a whole protocol and I just thought it

45:30

was so silly when I first got there Cuz he would just

45:32

talk to the house Talk to whoever's

45:34

in it. I'm like, what is this? I love scary movies.

45:36

I'm like this was fun. Whatever But

45:38

at the very end there's there's that prayer. It says you

45:40

do not have permission to leave with us You

45:43

know, like this is this is something where you know, we're

45:45

trying to help you He's like apparently he tried to go

45:47

back there or something. And so I

45:50

don't know. Yeah, there's nothing that I've seen afterwards

45:52

But it definitely has just changed my perspective to

45:54

one just respect that side of The

45:57

unknown a little bit more and you know, if you don't

45:59

know much or you're not very well defended,

46:01

you're just, you're setting yourself

46:03

up for failure or for open attacks or something.

46:05

And luckily, I feel like I'm

46:07

not possessed. So that's good. Josh

46:11

told me, you know, after

46:13

that, you did get addicted to hitchhiking.

46:15

And now he's using, yeah, it is weird.

46:17

And I do, I do wake

46:19

up in the woods covered in blood naked

46:22

sometimes once there's a full moon, but I

46:24

don't, I think that's just my medication. It's

46:26

a great podcast idea where you just, you

46:28

just go out hitchhiking and then you record

46:30

whatever happens and then you just put it

46:32

out on the internet. This podcast is giving

46:34

me so many good ideas. But

46:39

you know, you just got hitchhiking and record whatever the

46:41

hell happens because I'm sure there's some weird stories are

46:43

to be told in some, in some weird

46:45

places you'll be taken. I

46:47

get murdered first episode. Well,

46:50

that was a short run. I

46:53

guess, I guess, Luke, we can kind of dive into blur.

46:55

I want to ask the guys if dinosaurs are real or

46:57

is Helen Keller real? The dinosaurs real?

47:01

Did big ones get after dad? What

47:05

portal did Helen Keller come out of? Yeah,

47:07

that's a good question. Dinosaurs.

47:11

Yeah. We got gators down here, which are

47:13

like literal dinosaurs. We got sandhill cranes that

47:15

are like six feet tall. They're literal dinosaurs.

47:17

They're like cattle, like the lots of rapiters.

47:21

Yeah. They got a blast

47:23

of rapiters down here. Yeah.

47:26

Helen Keller, I don't think so. I don't think

47:28

she was real. I believe more in dinosaurs. I'm

47:30

doing Helen Keller. That's so sad. I

47:33

agree. I agree. All

47:36

our minds are just war. Dude, I love your

47:38

guys show. Your show is so fun. It is,

47:40

I just cracked me up. Like

47:42

the, I mean, you guys hit us

47:45

out of left field when we came on with this. It's just Helen Keller.

47:47

I didn't even thought about it. And they were talking about the show. I

47:50

suppose, buddy. You're complimenting us. Can you say it again? No one's left

47:52

that actually. No, please say it again. Yeah.

47:55

But do it more. He's in a parallel dimension. It's

47:57

okay. He's in the... Oh! The

48:00

great thing is with Riverside,

48:03

it wouldn't have come out as frozen at all. So

48:05

the audience are going to be like, what do you

48:07

guys mean he's frozen? We heard every word. I heard.

48:10

Oh really? Yes. Good

48:12

news. Next time, sorry,

48:14

freeze is we just keep nodding. Yes,

48:17

yes, like Jack Nicholson. He's like, I

48:20

got it. Not your mother, who's just

48:22

told you no idea. No

48:25

more voice. I

48:28

guess we'll talk about ourselves, our favorite

48:30

topic. Blurry

48:33

creatures started. We're going

48:35

on four years now. I

48:38

guess technically it started in 2019, in the fall of 2019. Got

48:42

the, was like, remodeling

48:45

a house and just listening to weird stories like this.

48:48

And not to go back to the hunters, but

48:50

I had listened to, I don't know, seven or

48:52

eight years. It was always the hunters' stories that

48:55

really convinced me. Something

48:57

about like, you know, like Cam, you were

48:59

talking about, you know, your buddy, he's just

49:01

this, he's not, he's not this kind of

49:03

guy that makes up anything. He's almost too

49:05

serious. And you, you hear about 50 or

49:07

60 of those things and you're like, there's

49:09

something to all of this paranormal realm, but

49:12

the hunters and the cops and the military

49:14

guys, they, they sort of are no nonsense

49:16

fellas. And then when they tell their story,

49:18

I was like, we got to do something.

49:20

So the logo was designed in

49:22

2019. And then I asked Luke in the, the

49:25

summer of COVID, Hey, Luke,

49:27

you want to do this podcast about

49:29

Bigfoot, but we're going to

49:31

kind of go, we're also going

49:34

to tie in like sort of this biblical

49:36

worldview, biblical perspective of like, you know, how

49:38

do you have faith and also hear all this weird

49:40

stuff and kind of tie the two together. And

49:42

you know, the Bible's full of stories about

49:44

giants and all this other weird stuff that nobody wants

49:46

to talk about a church, but we could talk about

49:49

it on blurry

49:51

creatures because it's just two dudes and no one's

49:53

going to like come after us and try to like

49:55

kick us off the church council. We can get as

49:57

weird as we want. So that's right. And we

49:59

did. That's when it starts, about four

50:01

years into Blurry Creatures, and we started

50:03

talking about Bigfoot. I'm

50:06

sure you got your favorite story, Luke, that

50:08

you've heard on Blurry, but I'll tell my

50:10

favorite story about

50:13

Sasquatch. We've heard some

50:15

wild stuff like some people

50:17

who supposedly go underground and

50:20

work with the military. Some of those stories are

50:22

hard to wrap your mind around, but my favorite

50:24

Bigfoot story that we heard on the podcast was

50:26

a guy came on the show, and

50:28

he goes to, I think it

50:31

was in South Carolina, he goes to camping

50:33

at some Airbnb with his family. He's

50:37

into Sasquatch, he's thinking about

50:40

it. His kids are listening

50:42

to the podcast, and they're like, they're

50:44

into this creature. Well, he's walking with his family

50:46

along a trail one day, and

50:49

they're just out doing their thing, looking for

50:51

Bigfoot. Don't see anything,

50:53

don't have any experience, come back home, they

50:56

go into the cabin, and then

50:58

he said he lays down in

51:00

the cabin, small cabin, and

51:03

all of a sudden, it

51:05

like, sort

51:08

of later in the night, his whole visual

51:10

senses get taken over. It's

51:12

like I'm watching a movie in my

51:15

mind, but it's like I can't

51:17

get out of it. I can't see anything in the room,

51:20

I can feel the room, I can feel

51:22

what's going on. I know I'm still in the cabin,

51:24

but I'm watching a movie

51:26

of me and my family walking

51:29

through the woods, and I

51:31

see this, I see

51:33

the viewpoint of a Sasquatch in

51:35

the bushes, watching me and

51:38

my family walking from earlier in the day. So

51:41

his whole take was, this

51:44

Sasquatch is watching him from the ridge, knows

51:47

he's looking, they're looking for him, but

51:50

he's somehow managed to record this event with his

51:53

family. He said I could see all the details,

51:55

the trees, I could see he was behind a

51:57

bush and kind of going in and out. He

52:00

projected into my mind and then he walked

52:02

like he like leaves the cabin and then

52:05

all of a sudden my senses come back

52:07

and I'm back laying there. For

52:10

like a minute or two i'm watching a

52:12

rerun of my day before of the sasquatch

52:14

watching me so he gets to see the

52:17

viewpoint of the sasquatch i thought. We've

52:20

heard the stories of them taking they can they

52:22

can talk to you directly. They

52:24

can mess with time and they seem to

52:26

fade in and out but a lot of

52:28

mind speak happens where they can directly communicate

52:30

with you and say things but this is

52:32

the first time i i've heard

52:34

like. You get

52:37

the old sasquatch

52:39

vision the movie wonka vision

52:41

but i don't know i thought that

52:43

was a wild one i hadn't heard anything that crazy. But

52:47

what about you luke. Yeah

52:51

i do the one that comes to mind is is

52:53

is the roger episode only because

52:55

it does have a sasquatch element

52:58

and we've gotten into this as nate said we started this

53:00

thing talking about bigfoot and we started getting the giants i

53:02

think episode eleven of our show and we're you know four

53:05

years into this now. But

53:07

we had this episode where a guy dug up giant bones on his

53:09

property. Old minnesota

53:11

farmer like saltier didn't even have like a

53:14

cell phone i think he had to call him on a landline

53:16

like this guy didn't have a computer he was

53:18

like. Super believable for the to this

53:20

point so we go to the steps of talking about

53:22

him digging up giant bones in a mound on his

53:24

property. You're the farm minnesota says

53:27

his wife will come up there because it's scary

53:29

and weird there now and

53:31

this episode was like the turning point for

53:33

me in our show because. We're

53:36

kind of wrapping up his story about the giant

53:38

bones the government coming out to refill it and

53:40

it's part of the native american repeat rea. Repatriation

53:44

act whatever never say that where you can't dig

53:47

anymore because i was property he

53:49

claims he found giant bones in there and we

53:51

remembered at the end to ask about bigfoot

53:53

because we. We were like

53:56

we just how we start our shows is what we're going to

53:58

be. So

54:00

we're like, hey, by the way, Roger, we meant to ask at the beginning, sorry

54:02

about this. What do you thought's in Bigfoot? He's

54:04

like, well, I got three that come up to the

54:06

barn. He's like, they braid my horses

54:08

here and I've named them. He

54:12

tells that he's named these three Bigfoot, and then he goes

54:14

out there and he plays his Native American flute for him.

54:18

Then it takes the hardest right turn

54:20

of all time. He

54:23

starts talking about how the Bigfoot are actually on this

54:25

serpent mound on his property, what he dug into and

54:28

found the giant bones. There's actually a portal on

54:31

the egg that's in the serpent's mouth. Out

54:33

of this portal comes something called a boar croc. Never heard it

54:35

before, we looked it up. This

54:37

is actually like an Egyptian

54:39

hybrid creature that

54:42

they believed in, which is part boar and part

54:44

croc. I was thinking man-bear pig there was like

54:46

half boar, half croc, half

54:50

man. I was like man-bear pig. But

54:53

they said it comes out there and it was

54:55

attacking things. The Bigfoot, what you call the rice

54:57

lakers, there's three, it

54:59

was nature. One of their

55:01

names it was White Diamond, Becca. White

55:04

Diamond. Little one. They were protecting his

55:06

farm from these boar crocs. There

55:13

was a dog man in his driveway as well. He bade

55:15

the dog man. But he had a pool

55:17

of it. It's unbelievable.

55:20

The thing is though, you have this old salty crusty

55:23

farmer from Minnesota. He's like, this is what happens on

55:25

my property. My wife won't come up here and my

55:27

neighbor seen Thunderbirds. He's like,

55:29

we've got a serpent mound and

55:31

giant bones. By the way, these

55:33

three Bigfoot, they come up and they braid my

55:36

horse's hair. I play flute music for him and

55:38

you're just like. My favorite part of that story.

55:40

What? He's in the barn, he

55:42

said. He's at his barn and he's like, well, I

55:45

just had to tell him the gospel. I had to

55:47

witness to the Sasquatch.

55:50

He's preaching to the Sasquatch. He's preaching

55:52

to the Sasquatch. And I just, you

55:55

know, we are so, this is like episode

55:57

30 something. Somebody

56:00

has to somebody's gotta tell about the

56:02

Lord, you know Sorry,

56:06

I was late I was having communion with satsquatches,

56:09

right You

56:11

know, it was so wild and he was so matter-of-fact about

56:13

these things and it's just a hard turn It's like

56:15

it's one of the more unforgettable now We've talked about kinds

56:17

of crazy stuff on the show, you know as well

56:19

as most you guys have you know, everything from satanic

56:22

ritual abuse and Just

56:25

wild stuff portals and pantries. We had an episode

56:27

with a portal and pantry not a porta-potty deep

56:31

underground military bases aliens and all and so

56:33

you You kind of get there's

56:36

this level. I think we level up into this

56:38

weirdness. It sort of becomes status quo, right and

56:41

but that was really like the Turning

56:44

point where you're like dude. This is

56:46

so weird and he is so Matter-of-fact

56:49

like like some dude you would see like

56:51

at the at the co-op like, you know

56:53

buying Buying seed for the farm

56:55

and this guy's telling you these doesn't have

56:58

a computer these sound his wild stories

57:00

about four crocs and

57:03

portals and Bigfoot and

57:06

this intergalactic battle that's having on his property where

57:08

he found giant bones and so I

57:12

Wildest it's it's there. It's up there, but it was

57:14

just I always kind of go back to that one

57:16

because it was so Like

57:19

it it it hit is that hit you

57:21

had a left field when you without were wrapping the episode

57:24

He said oh by the way, I got more for you

57:26

and here's what happened. You're like, dude, you don't stop talking

57:28

This is yeah, can I add a follow-up question? Right

57:31

exactly. What the heck are you talking about? So

57:34

that's that's the one I go to yeah, I'll

57:37

tell you the the braiding hair

57:39

thing is something I heard years ago By

57:44

who was it? I think you might know

57:46

the guy Kumbo Baker I

57:48

don't know. No, so

57:50

Kumbo years ago came

57:52

out talking about how he came

57:55

across cases with Bigfoot where People

57:58

were having big time to do his

58:00

horses. I don't know, but the idea of

58:02

bringing the main, the hair on the horse,

58:06

the other side of that story, the other half

58:08

of that that you guys didn't get

58:10

that I was told years ago is that

58:12

they do that while they're doing the freaky

58:14

with the horse. Wow.

58:17

Oh yeah. This family show just leveled

58:19

up to PG-13. I've

58:23

heard the little people do it

58:25

and they ride the horses. They take

58:27

them out and they ride around like, and

58:30

then they put their hair. It's not the Sasquatch. That's

58:32

what I've heard. Did he see

58:34

the Sasquatch doing it? No,

58:36

I don't think so. Because I mean, he had so

58:38

many other weird things happening on that property that maybe was

58:40

a little people. Maybe he shouldn't share that with us. He

58:43

was holding some things back. Yeah, maybe that's

58:45

how we get a lot of things. I can't unsee. I'm

58:49

a very visual person and I'm not liking this podcast.

58:53

I can't unsee, but I can never talk of it

58:55

again. We did have a

58:57

centaur story on the show. Maybe that's how we got

58:59

the centaur, the man bear pig. This

59:02

is a funny email we got. This guy was talking about

59:04

how back in the, it was like 1920,

59:08

I met 1910 somewhere

59:10

in there. He said his grandpa was very

59:12

serious guys to tell the story. He said

59:14

that they were on their

59:16

farm at night. He had a huge family, a bunch

59:18

of people, three generations of

59:20

people out on the front porch in

59:23

the middle. It's hot.

59:25

They sat outside. They

59:27

said, sure enough, this thing comes running

59:29

down their driveway. We

59:31

probably emailed this guy a couple of times. It

59:34

stops and everyone sees it. They all look.

59:38

The end of their driveway is no

59:41

joke, a centaur. It

59:43

looks at them and then they

59:45

all look at it. Then it takes off into the bushes.

59:49

His grandpa used to tell the

59:51

story at family gatherings for years that they

59:53

saw one of these things. It's

59:56

straight out of Narnia. Luke and I were early in

59:59

our show going, I mean, are people

1:00:01

just messing with us? We emailed the guy back,

1:00:03

he's like, no, I swear, I promise. My grandpa

1:00:06

told the story all the time.

1:00:08

His whole family saw it. I

1:00:10

think he was the youngest. The crazy

1:00:13

thing was a reverse centaur. So it was

1:00:15

no pants and just a horse head. Terrified.

1:00:20

Everybody's way more terrifying actually. The

1:00:22

centaur's part about these shows is who do you believe

1:00:24

and why do you believe them? I guess maybe everyone

1:00:26

can go around and just maybe

1:00:29

wrap it up. What

1:00:31

was your mindset before you started your podcast? What is

1:00:33

it now? I think it would be a

1:00:35

good wrap-up discussion. Why

1:00:41

do I feel like you're waiting for me to say something? No, I'll go

1:00:43

first. Come on, Tony. Come

1:00:46

on, Tony. Let

1:00:48

me go quickly here because I think this is fascinating. For me,

1:00:50

I've always been a skeptic on our show with Nate because Nate

1:00:52

talked about the top of it. He had

1:00:54

this 10,000 hours of listening to Bigfoot shows, but

1:00:57

he was remodeling houses. I've always

1:00:59

had a mild interest, the mild

1:01:02

to moderate interest in Bigfoot. So I

1:01:04

thought it'd be fun to

1:01:07

talk about these things that are weird. It

1:01:09

is fun. It's fascinating to think about and

1:01:11

investigate and

1:01:13

have discourse around things that don't have real

1:01:16

solid answers and just try to figure it out. That's what

1:01:18

we've been trying to do. Get

1:01:20

better answers to maybe

1:01:23

unanswerable questions, but doing that all through a

1:01:25

biblical worldview and through a biblical lens is

1:01:27

really where our show lives. I

1:01:30

was very anti-having an alien discussion just at the beginning. I

1:01:32

was like, I don't want to talk about this stupid. The

1:01:36

same thing is all stupid. I don't want

1:01:38

to talk about it. For me, I think

1:01:40

we had enough guests on that were

1:01:42

giving compelling paradigms

1:01:44

for understanding this and

1:01:46

framing the alien phenomena

1:01:49

and looking at what the narrative is that's

1:01:51

out there versus what the

1:01:53

Bible has to say about stuff like that, with

1:01:55

what it was in extraterrestrial. By

1:01:58

definition, angels. are

1:02:00

extraterrestrial than out of earth. And

1:02:03

we are. And so sort of changing

1:02:06

the way I was to think about and discuss

1:02:08

this thing, I found

1:02:11

space within my

1:02:13

expanded paradigm to discuss these, to discuss it. And I was

1:02:15

very much not in that space. I remember telling Nate, I

1:02:17

don't want to have an alien show. Let's not do this.

1:02:19

This is dumb. We lose all. If

1:02:22

we had any credibility to start out with,

1:02:24

we're about to lose it. But

1:02:28

we always say that our show is a journey podcast

1:02:30

and we do start Bigfoot and these experts in Bigfoot.

1:02:32

And we've kind of, we've journeyed down into all the

1:02:34

things that we just sort of talked about. And

1:02:39

to Dr. Michael

1:02:41

Heiser said on our show was just really one of

1:02:43

the, in our minds, Nate and

1:02:45

I are made in my mind, I won't speak for Nate, but

1:02:48

in our minds, it was, he's really, he's

1:02:50

really a cornerstone to these conversations as a Christian.

1:02:52

He wrote the book, The Unseen Realm. He

1:02:55

said that if

1:02:57

just one of these accounts are true, that

1:02:59

we do, we listen to and talk about, if it's just one is true,

1:03:01

then it breaks the paradigm. You have

1:03:04

to expand your paradigm to encompass these

1:03:06

things. So just one day, foot sighting is real. Just

1:03:09

one of these alien encounters is real. And just

1:03:12

one out of the thousands and thousands have happened.

1:03:14

And we've got to figure out how

1:03:16

we fit this inside our worldview. And for me,

1:03:18

that actually happened. And we lost Mike last year and he

1:03:20

was just, he became a great friend, but I thought he

1:03:22

was, he was revolutionary in the

1:03:24

way he compiled and put things

1:03:26

out there. And when he said

1:03:29

those things to us, it really changed the way I thought

1:03:31

about those things. For me personally, the

1:03:33

journey has really been like, I'm

1:03:35

spending my paradigm to consider. And

1:03:37

I think having these conversations around the

1:03:39

weird, or things in the

1:03:42

Bible and the weird things people experience

1:03:44

is something that's missing. This discourse is

1:03:46

missing, not in this circle right here by any

1:03:48

means, but just in Christendom

1:03:50

in general. And

1:03:52

I think we do ourselves a great disservice if we don't talk

1:03:54

about the weird stuff and try to contextualize that from the point

1:03:56

of view of our faith. We don't

1:03:59

do that. Then I

1:04:01

always say this, the world's more than willing to disciple us in

1:04:03

what they want us to believe, what the world wants us to

1:04:05

believe about these things. And that is always going to be contrary

1:04:09

to the truth, the biblical truth, and what the Bible says.

1:04:11

And so that journey has been

1:04:13

wild to me, like just kind of flipping that switch

1:04:16

on and saying, I can consider this,

1:04:18

and I do now. And

1:04:20

I have a good answer, I think,

1:04:22

for what's happening here. Now, are

1:04:24

we going to know? Maybe not till we have

1:04:26

disclosure, but we're getting very close to that. So,

1:04:29

yeah, for me, that's

1:04:32

been the journey sort of around our

1:04:34

content. You get the Alien Award. Thanks,

1:04:37

I'll take it. You gave me an

1:04:39

iced out saying, baby. What about you, Tony? When

1:04:43

I first started, for

1:04:46

me, the way the podcast started, I was

1:04:48

a tractor trailer driver, and God

1:04:50

called me to do this podcast.

1:04:52

And I've told the story before,

1:04:54

but I won't go deep into it. It

1:04:58

wasn't my comfort zone. I mean, I was literally

1:05:01

driving my truck. I felt the Holy Spirit say,

1:05:03

you're going to be a podcast, you're going to work

1:05:05

with Wes Gerber from Sasquatch Chronicles, never talked to the guy

1:05:07

my entire life. And a month later, he's calling me. And

1:05:11

that launched the podcast. And it

1:05:13

was a big growing experience for me because, you know,

1:05:15

up to that point, I was

1:05:17

interested in Bigfoot topic, listened

1:05:20

to Wes's show, really

1:05:23

looked around online about it. Outside of the

1:05:25

topic, I really didn't talk

1:05:27

about a whole lot of the stuff. It really wasn't really

1:05:29

that interested. And I

1:05:31

felt a strong pull to

1:05:34

start a show where you

1:05:36

talk about everything. And that was

1:05:39

very uncomfortable for me. I

1:05:41

didn't know what to talk about. Like

1:05:43

I remember my first UFO

1:05:46

show was in

1:05:48

the first five episodes. This guy,

1:05:50

Roger, was on and he was talking about this

1:05:52

up close encounter that he had of a UFO.

1:05:54

I mean, like, it's huge. It was right there.

1:05:56

And I'm just like, what the heck am I?

1:05:59

What am I? Do it like what? And

1:06:01

then so there's this whole inner struggle

1:06:04

because I knew how the podcast started, so

1:06:06

I had this, like, I put this pressure

1:06:09

on myself of, um, making

1:06:11

sure I don't let God down and take this show in a

1:06:13

direction it wasn't meant to go. And I didn't know what that

1:06:16

direction was supposed to be. And kind of

1:06:18

like what you said, it was the show. I've

1:06:21

come to understand that the show is

1:06:23

about people's experiences, but it's also about

1:06:25

my journey through these topics for seven

1:06:27

years, you know, 650 episodes. You

1:06:31

get to hear the transition of my

1:06:33

mindset where first episode was farmer sees

1:06:35

two Sasquatch in a field. And it

1:06:37

was just me talking to this guy

1:06:39

in Pennsylvania to now

1:06:42

we're talking about porta potties and like, you

1:06:44

know, other realms and stuff. And it ended

1:06:46

and it's like, how did you get there?

1:06:49

And it was a slow trickle effect

1:06:51

of me being exposed to people's experiences

1:06:54

and finding that, you know, some

1:06:56

of these wild experiences have been

1:06:58

able to be verifiable and that

1:07:00

shapes your, your, your, your mindset

1:07:02

and you have to take that

1:07:05

into consideration. And, um, for

1:07:07

me, like when I first started the show,

1:07:09

you know, I, my first email, the first

1:07:11

email I ever got was a woman saying she

1:07:14

saw Slenderman never brought her on the show because

1:07:16

I wasn't ready for it. If

1:07:18

somebody emailed me now, instead of saw Slenderman, let's

1:07:20

go. Topa baby, let's do this. And,

1:07:23

uh, and like, you know,

1:07:25

but people would email about their

1:07:27

dreams. And early

1:07:30

in the day, in those days, I was like, why, why do

1:07:32

I want to talk to you about your dreams? I have dreams

1:07:34

too. There's nothing weird about that. I never, I

1:07:37

never, uh, in those days

1:07:40

looked at everything the way I look at it now.

1:07:42

And now I'm like, you don't

1:07:44

like the whole, the whole

1:07:47

scripture is riddled with dreams

1:07:49

and dream interpretation and God speaking to people with their

1:07:51

dreams. Like, of course the dream state is something to

1:07:53

be thought about and talked about, and then when you

1:07:55

start talking to people about the dream state, and then

1:07:57

you start learning about lucid dreaming. Well, what is lucid

1:07:59

dreaming? because I've never experienced that, but they're saying that

1:08:01

this is a dream that

1:08:04

they had that was more real than here,

1:08:06

and the things that happened there seem to

1:08:08

overlap here. And then you

1:08:10

start talking to people who had experience with

1:08:12

other people in their dreams. And

1:08:14

then in this reality, they share notes and say,

1:08:16

yeah, I saw you in my dream last night

1:08:19

too. And yeah, that room, yeah,

1:08:21

I saw, yeah. And it's like, well, what

1:08:23

is that? And so it just takes you

1:08:25

down this whole road that, again,

1:08:27

you guys started a show and you're like, let's talk about Bigfoot.

1:08:30

And it's like, no, that's the, like, Bigfoot

1:08:33

is just a topic now that we

1:08:35

do. And it all just was like

1:08:37

this domino effect. So

1:08:39

like for me, it was just this, I

1:08:42

feel like it's a personal journey as

1:08:44

well. I look at my shows, it's

1:08:46

like a mixed bag. And

1:08:48

I'm fairly convinced that reality is far

1:08:51

more stranger than I can fathom. And

1:08:55

I'm just, I'm here for the ride. And

1:08:57

I'm not, I don't really, I also

1:09:00

struggled early on. I'm like, you know, I felt

1:09:03

this like almost wait, like, well, I'm the host of the show.

1:09:05

Like I don't want to, like you're talking about validation and, you

1:09:07

know, hurting your credibility and stuff. And I was just like, you

1:09:10

know, if I bring this person off, I talk about this, like,

1:09:12

what is that going to do to the show? Am I going

1:09:14

to ruin the show? And I just

1:09:16

got to the point where I'm like, you know what, just

1:09:18

like with people's salvation, like it's not my job

1:09:20

to make you believe in Jesus Christ as your

1:09:22

savior. That's not my job. My job is to

1:09:25

lead you to the water. It's

1:09:27

between you and the Holy Spirit. My job's done. And

1:09:29

so I look at it the same way at the show where it's like, you

1:09:32

know, I present the stories of people's experiences

1:09:34

that they've gone through. I've personally experienced things

1:09:36

that I can't explain that people would call

1:09:38

me crazy for. I've talked to

1:09:41

people on the show that have shared their personal experiences

1:09:43

that I've been able to verify that if I couldn't

1:09:45

have verified, I'm like, I don't know. So

1:09:47

I'm at the point where it's just like, listen, we

1:09:49

present the story to you as the audience.

1:09:52

It's your decision to choose what you want to believe. It's

1:09:55

my personal journey, but the audience as well, it's

1:09:57

their personal journey through the weird. I

1:10:00

leave it at. Yeah. I

1:10:03

think I agree with what Tony is saying. We've

1:10:06

experienced a similar thing where I

1:10:09

thought we would learn more over time, but

1:10:11

I've got more questions now than when we

1:10:13

started 10 years ago. Like

1:10:16

Tony was saying, we present these stories for

1:10:18

the audience to listen to. It's up to them to

1:10:20

judge what they think about it because we get people

1:10:23

that email and be like, well, how do you vet

1:10:25

these stories? That guy's story was impossible. And

1:10:27

I'm like, look, it's impossible for me to

1:10:30

say that he did or didn't experience what

1:10:32

he experienced. That's ridiculous to me.

1:10:35

And whether somebody physically saw

1:10:37

a biological Sasquatch or it

1:10:39

was just a mirage or

1:10:41

a hallucination, whatever it was,

1:10:43

the effect, the impact it has on

1:10:45

that person is exactly the same. It's

1:10:48

changed their life forever. So

1:10:50

I've got people that have come to us on

1:10:53

air, off air, people that didn't even know we

1:10:55

did a show that told us these stories. And

1:10:58

you can tell, man, they have no reason to

1:11:00

make this stuff up. I used to haul hay for

1:11:03

an old rancher when I was a

1:11:05

kid. I did it. I know him my whole

1:11:07

life. And after he heard about our show, he pulled

1:11:09

me aside one day and said that he saw a

1:11:11

Sasquatch on his ranch 30 years

1:11:13

ago. And I was like, well, how come you never told me that

1:11:16

the whole time when I was hauling hay for you? And

1:11:18

there'd be no reason for this guy to make that story up. With

1:11:22

all the crazy stories that we

1:11:24

talk about, from Portals to Dwindys

1:11:26

to Sasquatch, extra terrestrials, whatever, time

1:11:28

slips, I can't tell

1:11:30

you the amount of people that have emailed us

1:11:32

and thanked us for bringing these stories to light

1:11:34

because they thought that they had a weird, wild

1:11:36

experience. And they never told nobody because they thought

1:11:39

they were the only one. And they were afraid

1:11:41

that they were losing their minds. But

1:11:43

through podcasts, like all of these, all

1:11:46

you guys shows as well, is like it makes people

1:11:48

more comfortable. And then it takes the pressure off them.

1:11:50

They're like, man, maybe I'm not crazy. Turns

1:11:53

out over 100 people have

1:11:55

seen this glimmer man. You know, I thought I was

1:11:57

the only one. And so it's helped people out.

1:12:00

when you're joking around, jackassin' around

1:12:02

with your friend on a podcast, that

1:12:04

somebody, you're actually helping them. I

1:12:06

was really depressed or whatever, and they'll write

1:12:08

in like, you guys literally changed

1:12:10

the way I was thinking. You brought me out of the

1:12:13

slump I was in, and I can't thank

1:12:15

you enough. That kind of stuff, it

1:12:17

never crosses my mind when we're in here just goofing

1:12:19

off. But I

1:12:21

think that the shared experience,

1:12:24

I think everybody, no matter who you are, likes to

1:12:26

sit around a campfire and hear crazy stories. That's

1:12:28

what I think. It's not my job to prove whether they're

1:12:30

real or not. I don't think you ever

1:12:33

will. We always joke about with Bigfoot. I hope it's

1:12:35

not discovered, because then that ends all the fun. The

1:12:38

fun is the mystery. It's

1:12:41

like when they show the aliens in signs and they ruin the

1:12:43

whole movie. I'm not kidding. I'm

1:12:46

going to die on that hill. I'm going

1:12:48

to die on that hill. If they'd just not shown

1:12:50

you the aliens in signs, it would have been so

1:12:52

much scarier. I loved that movie. I don't know what

1:12:55

you're talking about. Also their one weakness is water, and

1:12:57

they went to a planet with two-thirds of water. I

1:12:59

mean, come on. It's water in the beginning. I talk

1:13:01

about higher intelligence, right? Yeah. A

1:13:03

bunch of dummies flying right now. Yeah.

1:13:07

Ours is very similar to y'all's where we

1:13:09

just started this podcast just for

1:13:11

fun, because before this, we'd

1:13:14

been doing content or I've been doing

1:13:16

content for Sunday cool seven

1:13:18

years now, I think. Just

1:13:21

doing funny skit videos for churches and

1:13:23

youth groups and stuff like that. Then

1:13:27

when Andrew came on, was it

1:13:30

two years now or three? Three. Yeah.

1:13:33

We would just start having the funnest conversations

1:13:35

of what we saw on the internet

1:13:37

or TikTok or whatever. It's

1:13:40

like, yeah, dude, we really need to start a podcast.

1:13:43

We didn't know what we were doing or which way it

1:13:46

was going to go. Definitely

1:13:48

didn't expect it to be where it is

1:13:50

now. Our prayer

1:13:52

the whole time is just God, use the podcast

1:13:54

however you want. In the moment it becomes about

1:13:56

us, just take it away. And

1:13:59

he uses. us dummies that

1:14:01

talk about our favorite poop stories

1:14:03

and You know our

1:14:05

legs when we see a UFO and

1:14:08

we get just so many emails

1:14:10

and messages of people like Like

1:14:13

if you what you guys are doing is so rad

1:14:15

and like Like I've opened up my

1:14:17

Bible for the first time and ten years

1:14:19

or whatever just because we talked about scripture a lot

1:14:22

And like how it relates to everything and we're

1:14:24

very not educated and anything But

1:14:28

everything but everything But

1:14:31

yeah, we just have fun with it. I feel

1:14:33

like now what the podcast has done It's like

1:14:35

I feel like I've taken the red pill from

1:14:37

the matrix I just see like everything like way

1:14:39

differently now. Yeah, you know like but it's like

1:14:41

I mean from a young age

1:14:44

I always knew that there was something more

1:14:46

like in the spiritual realm and

1:14:48

stuff just because I've had encounters at a young age

1:14:51

But now with this journey we've

1:14:54

been on was like listening to you guys

1:14:56

and stuff It's like it's

1:14:58

just clarifying everything, you know, it's like like,

1:15:01

oh, yeah, I'm not crazy for Experiencing

1:15:04

this or thinking this like we're just talking about it.

1:15:06

I think that's one of the biggest thing is My

1:15:08

confidence has changed of like,

1:15:11

okay. It's okay to talk about this. It's okay to question

1:15:13

this it's okay to make a joke out of this

1:15:15

like because At the beginning

1:15:17

I'm like, I don't know if people are gonna really

1:15:19

like it Just listening to us talking about whatever because

1:15:21

we're not experts in it But I think that's the

1:15:23

cool thing is seeing a community build around What

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we're doing and like be all in and be

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super excited and CSS friends and say you should

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talk about this next and then We do and

1:15:32

then we it just builds a community

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where it's like listen. I'm not the only crazy person

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that's talked about this All right. We got tons of

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other people that you know are you know asking questions

1:15:41

or looking into it So it's just been a really

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cool thing just to see how our

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minds have just been a little more open But

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also just more firm on Whenever

1:15:49

it leads back to spiritual stuff It's all like

1:15:52

it's just cementing our faith even more like but

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golly is still in control and now he's doing

1:15:56

all these things And yeah, we've definitely found genre

1:16:00

of people that it's

1:16:02

really cool of how our podcast works. It's

1:16:04

like we talk about, we can

1:16:06

talk about like really deep, heavy

1:16:08

stuff, but it's like all packaged

1:16:11

within like a humor based thing. So

1:16:13

it's like, we don't take ourselves that seriously,

1:16:15

but like it definitely, I

1:16:17

don't know, eases the tension of, I don't

1:16:20

know. Oh, just the heavy topics. Yeah. And it's,

1:16:22

it gets it all off. It's fun how we're

1:16:24

all evolving too. It's like, you know,

1:16:26

you guys, it started with all jokes and now

1:16:28

you're like buying in and now

1:16:31

you're like educating your audience. I started out

1:16:33

a complete skeptic. Like I never heard, studied

1:16:35

anything about the book of Enoch when I

1:16:37

went to Bible college and Josh

1:16:39

starts talking about it and like, okay, guy, but you

1:16:42

know, we came from a good perspective too,

1:16:44

because like not usually the

1:16:46

perspective you would want, but like you

1:16:49

didn't have no podcasting or like

1:16:51

listening. So it's like, yeah, yeah. So to all be

1:16:53

on a different journey, different path, and all of us

1:16:55

like coming together and asking tough questions.

1:16:57

It's just been super fun

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and finding the funny as that's the most

1:17:01

important thing for me is like, cause I

1:17:03

know we all work better, especially me and Josh.

1:17:06

Like when we get in that goofy state, that's

1:17:08

where we thrive. And so that the able, the fact

1:17:10

that we're able to throw in all this heavy

1:17:12

spiritual interdimensional stuff with, you know,

1:17:14

red heifers and all that stuff.

1:17:16

It's like, it's just cool to be

1:17:18

able to joke about it and. Yeah. For another

1:17:21

episode. Yeah. You know, 9 11 with an inside job.

1:17:24

See you next week. Cliff

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hangers. Yeah. I

1:17:31

agree. I think that, uh, you see, you know,

1:17:33

you, you start these podcasts. I think for me,

1:17:35

it was, it was a moment when we were

1:17:37

in, I was talking about my, our story with going to

1:17:39

Peru, but when we were standing at socks, I woman, it's

1:17:41

looking at these giant mega

1:17:43

lithic stones that are like,

1:17:45

you know, perfectly smooth on eight sides, fit

1:17:48

together like Legos, and you're standing at this

1:17:50

wall that's towering over all of us. You're

1:17:53

like, this is massive. Like, how did they

1:17:55

move these stones? Some of these stones are,

1:17:57

are so huge. And I think. It's

1:18:00

one thing to talk about stories and it's nothing to stand

1:18:02

there and stare at it and touch it and be like,

1:18:04

how did they build this? You know, and

1:18:06

one of the things we've talked a lot about is the

1:18:08

megaliths and so this ancient construction,

1:18:10

this knowledge that they built these things all over the

1:18:12

world. And then when you actually get to go to

1:18:14

one and it was kind of cool that our

1:18:17

fans rallied around us and Luke and I got to

1:18:19

go to this place and basically hang out. We did

1:18:21

a live podcast where we're walking around and

1:18:24

being in downtown Cusco and touching these

1:18:26

like green stones

1:18:29

that are just look like marshmallows fit together

1:18:31

and they've been there for thousands

1:18:33

of years. And you're like, this is

1:18:36

one of them was 12 sides and like, how

1:18:39

did they do this? And it feels like, you

1:18:41

know, when you grow up in the church

1:18:43

and a lot of us have, you hear these

1:18:45

stories of giants, David and Goliath and you don't

1:18:47

really understand. That's like a little snapshot of like

1:18:50

a whole narrative that has

1:18:52

sort of been brushed over, like there were giants

1:18:54

and they were killing them and they were exterminating

1:18:56

them. And then you see

1:18:58

things that maybe they built and

1:19:01

then you start to reverse engineering that, okay, these

1:19:03

stones look like they were lifted or levitated

1:19:06

in the place, shaped in the air or

1:19:08

whatever. They were heated up or they were

1:19:11

however they did it. There was some advanced knowledge.

1:19:13

And I think then you have to sort of reverse

1:19:15

it. Like at some point, you

1:19:17

know, the whole giant narrative for me has

1:19:20

changed that there are

1:19:23

angels are probably like a physical

1:19:26

being, not a spiritual being,

1:19:28

an actual physical being. They

1:19:30

just not here. And

1:19:33

I think that I've changed my perspective because you grow

1:19:35

up in the church, everything that you don't understand is just, it's

1:19:39

just mystical. It just floats around. There's no

1:19:41

like, but it's like, no, they're, they birthed,

1:19:44

they got, they hooked up with women and they birthed

1:19:46

these giants that, and there's remnants all over

1:19:48

the world. And I think the physical aspect

1:19:50

of these things that you read about in

1:19:53

ancient history and all the mythologies around

1:19:55

the world and every single culture, you

1:19:58

know, their story. They all

1:20:00

kind of tell the same story. They talk

1:20:02

about a flood, they talk about giants, they talk about these

1:20:04

weird things. And

1:20:06

growing up in the church, it was like, okay, so

1:20:09

maybe angels aren't spiritual beings,

1:20:11

maybe they're like

1:20:13

upgraded humans, and they came down here and

1:20:15

messed with everything. Why

1:20:18

do we over-complicate things?

1:20:22

So I think that's the mind shift that I had,

1:20:24

because I never really understood, what is an angel? You

1:20:27

hear stories of angel people, I was driving

1:20:29

my car and all of a sudden, this angel saved

1:20:31

me, I got in this car wreck, or I showed

1:20:33

up and people have these encounters

1:20:35

with angels, and you hear about

1:20:37

them all the time, and you're like,

1:20:39

what are they? They

1:20:42

made a movie about that, they played baseball, didn't

1:20:44

they? Yeah. How many eyes do they

1:20:46

have? Yeah,

1:20:48

they only played outfielders, they weren't infielders, they weren't that

1:20:50

good. But

1:20:52

they just like putting a sort of, angel

1:20:56

could roll into town today, hang out, have dinner

1:20:58

with them, and ask them questions, and then he

1:21:00

could leave, and they're like, well, people say all

1:21:02

the time, oh, angels can take on the

1:21:04

form of anything, and I'm like, I don't think so. So

1:21:07

that's where my mind has changed. I think

1:21:10

their resting state is something that's

1:21:12

like a human. It's

1:21:15

not just spirit, so when you say spirit, so you mean it's

1:21:17

just not a spirit, not just a human. There are spirits, but

1:21:20

I think that there are things. Just to

1:21:22

clarify, the spiritual gets a little muddy, they

1:21:24

live in another dimension. Another dimension. But

1:21:27

anyway, this is kind of a taste, I

1:21:29

just wanna say thanks to all you guys for wanting to

1:21:32

do this Squachella Festival. If you want to, I guess

1:21:34

we can all pitch this event right now. This

1:21:37

is happening at Belmont

1:21:39

University at their Fisher Center, which is like

1:21:41

an $85 million building. It's

1:21:43

awesome. I think they're short like $100 million, I

1:21:46

think it's $185 million building. I heard

1:21:48

you say $85 billion. We're

1:21:50

getting paid $85 million. I don't think it's

1:21:52

$180 billion. With a B. 0.5

1:21:55

trillion. Anyway, it's two-way.

1:21:57

It's inflation, it's now trillions. That's right.

1:22:00

It's a trillion dollar building and come

1:22:03

on down. No, but we're going to do

1:22:06

this live on stage. Everyone's going to have

1:22:08

sort of a topic and we're going to, we're

1:22:10

going to just, just like your typical music festival,

1:22:13

we're going to shotgun blast you back

1:22:15

to back to back to back to back all

1:22:17

day long with, you

1:22:20

know, all the weirdness. And

1:22:23

it's called Squachella. You can get tickets

1:22:25

now at squachella.com. And

1:22:28

yeah, we're really

1:22:30

pumped that all you guys are, we all

1:22:32

do something different. We all have a different vibe

1:22:34

and it's cool to see, you know,

1:22:37

some sort of weird idea kind of come to reality and

1:22:39

here we are. So I don't know if you guys, I

1:22:41

don't know if

1:22:43

you guys want to tease anything else, but no,

1:22:46

it's going to be rad. It's going to be so fun. I'm stoked.

1:22:50

And you're going to do the whole show without a

1:22:52

shirt. Absolutely. Yeah.

1:22:54

You got a Squachella banana hammock.

1:22:56

That's pre-ordered right now. And

1:22:59

the tickets just sold out. There

1:23:01

we go. And they're gone cheering the

1:23:03

most because, you know,

1:23:06

they have some intimate camping situations that's

1:23:08

between the two of them. But,

1:23:11

uh, we are, we also have a VIP ticket. We can

1:23:13

talk about that. There are, there's a limited amount of VIP

1:23:15

tickets. We're going to have a little, a section there where

1:23:17

you can come backstage, hang out with us. We're going to

1:23:19

do Q and a, take pictures. You can

1:23:22

get some signed posters and it's

1:23:24

going to be a good time. So, um,

1:23:26

yeah. And the VIP includes

1:23:29

Andy washing every single person's foot.

1:23:31

Yes. Sponge baths. Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:33

And I will come to you. Oh, see, I

1:23:35

find a way of your residence. Yeah.

1:23:38

So it'll be a long night, but I'll

1:23:40

be there. Just wake up. You keep seeing

1:23:42

wet little world. Just

1:23:46

like James, you know, wash, wash and see.

1:23:49

Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate you

1:23:51

guys. It's August 3rd, right? Yeah.

1:23:53

Thank you. August 3rd. Yes. I'll

1:23:55

mark it on your calendars. Yes. August 3rd Nashville,

1:23:57

Tennessee. I'll make sure I'm there. Yeah,

1:24:00

make sure you guys are all there in this

1:24:02

virtual room, but join us. It's going to be fun.

1:24:05

It's going to be like a music festival with podcasts.

1:24:07

You get to see your favorite podcast live. Do

1:24:10

their thing and maybe you'll

1:24:12

see Andy's feet. We

1:24:14

can't say that's for sure, but that may be

1:24:17

the special guest at the bottom. No, it's guaranteed.

1:24:19

It's guaranteed. It'll be very, very aware, very apparent.

1:24:21

Actually, probably the first thing you can do is

1:24:23

see when you walk in. No,

1:24:25

it's amazing. Like, who can I with you?

1:24:27

The other day, and it's an amazing building,

1:24:30

awesome facility, theater style. Everything's

1:24:33

just incredible. It's funny that

1:24:36

the juxtaposition of a bunch of dudes talking

1:24:38

about Sasquatch in this building will be hilarious

1:24:40

on its own. And

1:24:42

it's like one of the nicest buildings

1:24:44

in Tennessee. Can't believe we get

1:24:46

to have this event. We're degrading it. We

1:24:48

are degrading it. And they're letting all of us

1:24:51

into it. I've heard

1:24:53

they're giving us honorary PhDs too.

1:24:56

That's pretty great. In Sasquatch.

1:24:59

Come on down. There's going to be a VIP

1:25:02

hanging out. There's going to be merch booths, photos.

1:25:05

Tony's bringing a portal potty. We got

1:25:07

a huge electronic wall. There's going to

1:25:09

be videos. There's going to be just

1:25:12

an amazing staff. Fire. Fire will

1:25:14

be fire. Dragon. Well, until you win. They

1:25:17

just got to bring in live gators. That's

1:25:19

right. It's going to happen. Squachella

1:25:22

doctor. Perhaps. Get

1:25:25

your tickets now because they're going to go quick.

1:25:27

Absolutely. They will. Awaking from

1:25:29

the forest and the depths of the abyss.

1:25:32

This creature is a paradigm of

1:25:34

time lost and time itself. It

1:25:37

fears no one. It adheres

1:25:39

to no rule that man can create.

1:25:43

It forges its own path and yet

1:25:45

its path remains hidden from the world.

1:25:49

The sphere of its existence

1:25:51

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1:25:53

it exudes its power quietly

1:25:55

but transcendent. It

1:25:58

needs no one's approval to It is,

1:26:00

but yet its very existence is sought

1:26:02

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1:26:05

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1:26:09

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1:26:11

even as the environment is wrought

1:26:13

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1:26:15

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1:26:17

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1:26:23

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1:26:25

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1:26:27

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1:26:30

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1:26:33

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1:26:35

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1:26:37

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1:26:40

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1:26:42

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1:26:44

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1:26:46

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