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3:37

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3:39

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3:46

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3:48

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3:56

an on a day or talk about all

3:58

the history of the area and. Bigfoot sightings,

4:00

a dog, me settings all the crypt

4:02

is happening here in East Tennessee. A

4:04

talks about of families who had an

4:06

ongoing relationship with a family of big

4:08

for to the point that there was

4:10

a language spoken between family's. Very

4:12

interesting story and yes of course I am

4:15

right now try attract as somebody from their

4:17

family to talk to me because of their

4:19

in East Tennessee, why not have them on

4:21

the show and tell their family story first

4:24

hand? But we get into it today. I

4:26

hope you enjoy this conversation with the let's

4:28

get sick. Today

4:46

we have Stephen here and studio work

4:49

and jumping this conversation Stephen was going

4:51

on in the most men habit is

4:53

a I'm glad you're here. I so

4:55

apparently. You. And I I

4:57

were supposed to record. Years

4:59

ago the alone and and I had

5:02

that conversation never came to fruition though.

5:04

remember try me spy me problem not

5:06

a you problem and I. Then.

5:09

We it was me, Joe and Jack. We

5:11

went down to legends the Lore pizza and

5:14

we're having dinner and we had order a

5:16

pizza way non and you come over and

5:18

start talking to us and I use a

5:20

started telling us all these stories and stuff

5:22

and I was like he managed to get

5:24

you on the show you like. Funny enough

5:27

to. slow actually

5:29

i don't have you remembered the conference last

5:31

year i'm the god the stood up at

5:33

the end and as a crazy quests china

5:35

blast air b f r o by support

5:37

of the do as i question on purpose

5:40

to have aids i felt like i was

5:42

picking out an appetizer that and you can't

5:44

take a story and turn it into i

5:46

remember that and a strictly and that's me

5:48

that was man i'm even the guy that

5:51

made my money maker my bed when he

5:53

was going around asking the questions with the

5:55

sad to scour see i even my money

5:57

most of my what he's mad enough time

6:00

Give me the most hateful, like you better say,

6:02

oh yeah. My son sit there and watched it

6:04

happen. Could you feel the eyes? Oh, yeah. You're

6:07

like, Oh yeah. We made eye contact. Now it's like,

6:09

huh, did you smile? I

6:12

even said a few source words. Did you? Oh

6:14

yeah. Cause what I was, you know, that guy

6:16

was there to do, um, give

6:18

his take on what his studies he was going

6:20

to do differently than anybody else. I

6:22

was like, well, this guy sounds like everybody else. We're

6:25

going to take the samples. We're going to do this.

6:27

We're going to do that. But what

6:29

happens most time they come back contaminated. Yeah. So

6:31

I was like, well, I've got a question. So

6:33

Matt come over. I was like, how is this

6:35

guy going to prove that he is going to

6:37

be much different? And I went on to this

6:39

little stuff and Matt said, great question. Turn around

6:42

and ask something totally different. I'm like, dude, that's

6:44

not even a freaking ass. And

6:46

I'm just sitting there going off. He turns, this gives

6:48

me the God awful sliv. Oh my

6:50

God. It made my day. I

6:52

wasn't there during that part. I was probably at our

6:55

booth or something. And I didn't

6:57

see that interaction, but that's hilarious. A

7:00

lot of people on that road. We got to see

7:02

it. And you made him listen. Oh yeah.

7:05

I don't care either. I

7:07

don't know what I

7:10

don't know what the whole thing is with Matt, but

7:12

I know he rubs some people the wrong way. Yeah.

7:15

Um, he doesn't rub me the

7:17

wrong way, probably because I don't know him well

7:19

enough. I haven't looked into it all and stuff.

7:21

And honestly, like I, I mean, I had, um,

7:24

uh, Matt Pruitt on the show not too long ago,

7:26

who is very much a flesh and blood kind of

7:28

guy. And obviously that's, I mean, I I'm flushing blood

7:30

to the extent that yeah, when they're in this realm,

7:32

they're flesh and blood, but I don't think they're always

7:34

in this realm. And, uh, I

7:36

think what's good, what you see here in

7:38

this realm could go to another realm, uh, when

7:41

it feels like, so obviously that's where the

7:43

divide happens, but I had a great conversation

7:45

with Pruitt and I thought it

7:47

was, it was educational. He presented great

7:49

arguments. And, um, I

7:52

think I'd have a great conversation with,

7:54

with, uh, with moneymaker too. Uh,

7:56

I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

8:00

I haven't tried. Just be clear, I haven't

8:02

tried to. I'm on the show. Ah but

8:04

even if I did, I imagine he's pretty

8:06

busy busy. I'm just glad I did. You

8:08

will get Bobo on the show which he

8:10

was fine. Oh yeah bubbles to lot of

8:12

I she's pretty but the nice one Allah

8:14

will fear no they are his. His sister

8:16

is. Definitely. The most unique character.

8:19

And died he is he anyway she's

8:22

a good deed bites I have at

8:24

the conference when you when you ask

8:26

that question I read I do remember

8:28

sitting there on stage and I don't

8:30

know who's added some. I was talking

8:32

about how he out the people's stories

8:34

about these things aren't the most accurate

8:37

and reliable every I'm the and and

8:39

I wasn't there as like on the

8:41

neck and like me out of the

8:43

exact thousand. But as I mean where

8:45

did all this stuff tell from stories.

8:47

In generational general, how do you know about

8:49

Bigfoot? Well I heard about at the as

8:51

much as a pay Paul and his paper

8:53

our what he only that from generation to

8:55

generation even the Cherokee stores. You mean to

8:57

tell me these historical stories are just stories

8:59

they don't may nessun. Yeah, so I mean

9:01

here's the thing with I think that lake

9:03

near their point would be. That.

9:06

The stories as a launching pad

9:08

into further evidence. you need further

9:10

evidence beyond a story of by.

9:13

The. Way they relay that I think and

9:15

maybe even they do feel this way at

9:17

times. But I I like. There's.

9:20

A certain level poo pooing the story

9:22

at some point when you're trying to

9:24

pursue evidence and I think that it

9:26

would behoove. People. Our say,

9:29

any nice particular bunch of people

9:31

like that to refrain from doing

9:33

that and remember the foundation of

9:35

what this whole thing's built on.

9:37

My gear interest in the topic

9:39

came from a story you didn't

9:41

in. Most people don't stumble across.

9:44

Big. for themselves or a footprint that

9:46

was twenty inches long and ten inches

9:48

wide they heard about it and they

9:51

are interested and they start looking at

9:53

it is dennis are researching than he

9:55

started doing all these other things trying

9:58

to find further evidence by the

10:00

whole reason why you're even there is because you heard about it

10:02

and you believed it or you

10:04

believe it enough to find it interesting

10:06

enough and research it so. Something

10:09

about that story and trade you to

10:11

follow that story yeah i guess the

10:13

right way to say it to me

10:16

but. I mean everything

10:19

is based on stores when everything we know

10:21

today is based on stores weather there a

10:24

little is it a little out there are

10:26

there just masticator or what not is

10:29

the baseline of what we use the subjects

10:31

on your pretty much it's always got. I

10:34

feel like i look at

10:36

myself i was talking to you. I

10:39

can't remember now it was a to the

10:41

albino at the word creatures were con conference

10:43

and him and i walking out at the end of the

10:45

day and i was telling about what i do and everything.

10:48

And you know i get

10:50

insecurities with things you know i still after

10:53

you know i'm coming up on six hundred

10:55

fifty episodes seven years into this and i

10:57

still feel like i have imposter syndrome

10:59

at times. And you know i told

11:01

my like you know there's parts

11:04

of me that sometimes feels like i

11:06

don't do anything of value and

11:09

i don't know that's not true but. You

11:12

know i'm basically the story guy you

11:14

know and. And

11:17

he encouraged me to not

11:19

feel that way and to lean into it like

11:21

that's your that's your role that your place in

11:23

all this right now cuz i don't fit my

11:26

i'm not a researcher my brain doesn't work that

11:28

way i i. And

11:31

part of it's probably because because i've drink too

11:33

much fluoride my life i can't stay focused long

11:35

enough but. I'm. So

11:38

i really start bracing that they are like

11:40

if you take it to the name americans

11:43

you know the tribal story you tell her

11:45

the person who hands off the generations

11:48

of knowledge of the tribe. Are

11:50

often people who are identified

11:52

as children that have

11:54

good memory good recall and

11:57

are good at relaying the message right i

11:59

just. I kind of feel like maybe that's my place in this world.

12:02

And not to

12:04

say I can't do other things, but I

12:07

do feel like maybe I am just

12:10

the modern tribal storyteller of all

12:13

this stuff. Just kind of documenting it. But

12:17

you grew up around here and

12:19

you have countless stories. I mean, you

12:21

were just dumping them at

12:24

the pizza shop. And I

12:26

was like, you wanna come

12:28

in? And so fortunately, it's a Thursday and

12:32

your boss lets you come in and leave. And you said

12:34

you're still getting paid? Yeah. Oh, that's great. Oh yeah. Like

12:37

he's in the subject too, we're golden. That's

12:39

great, that's great. So let's

12:41

start off with your personal experiences though. Do

12:44

you have encounters with

12:47

cryptids? I know you did

12:49

the paranormal as well, as far as, you

12:51

do paranormal research, right? I like to, I

12:53

would like to, but I don't get out

12:55

often as I want, as I would like

12:57

to. If that makes sense, I know I'm

12:59

kinda vibing, but I did a

13:01

lot of stuff growing up in the paranormal. I

13:03

didn't really get into the cryptids probably about three

13:06

years ago, three and a half years ago. But

13:09

what made me get into it, I was talking to my

13:11

buddy, it's actually my boss and at work now, he

13:14

got to relay the message to me about this, that stuff. And

13:16

it made me think about what happened to me in 2012. For

13:20

the longest time, I thought it was a bear, but

13:23

evidence now points towards it wasn't.

13:26

So if you want me to go on- Yeah, go for it, yeah.

13:29

Back in 2012, around October, I believe it was, it

13:34

was late deer season, nope, let's say November.

13:36

I was around November. It

13:38

was the weekend after one of the bear

13:41

seasons, I just closed. And

13:43

usually when I'm hunting up a bear, I hunt up her in

13:45

the South Cherokee National Forest of Monroe County. And

13:48

I usually, it's me and my papaw, we're always

13:50

together, we was always hunting together. We

13:52

would always go one

13:54

way or the other, and always meet back in

13:56

the middle usually. Well, my papaw's 70. three,

14:01

maybe 74 and just last week

14:03

retired from logging all his life.

14:07

He's 73, 34 now. Yeah. And

14:09

he just retired from logging. Yeah. Wow.

14:11

We're talking cutting trees down, setting chokers,

14:13

driving the skaters, all of it, just

14:15

retired last week. And he's

14:17

done it all his life. The Skyway road up there,

14:19

he built it. He's part of the crew that built

14:21

it, it, it, it, and all that other stuff. But

14:25

anyways, but he had

14:27

to work this weekend. He's always a hardworking man. So he

14:29

had to work, he needed to go to work and I

14:31

thought, okay, well, I'll just go

14:33

by myself. And I had this

14:35

spot picked out and it's kind of hard

14:38

to explain where the spot is. It's just a spot

14:40

I'd had to show you because it's just one of

14:42

the random pull-offs there on, on the Skyway road going

14:44

up. Um, so I had seen

14:46

deer sign in there before, sign of a big buck,

14:48

been in there before, you know, numerous

14:50

times he's had the whole area rubbed up.

14:53

So that morning I get there, I'm

14:55

probably at the parking spot about two

14:58

and a half, three hours before daylight, because I've

15:01

got like a five how

15:03

Mike hike back in the

15:05

woods. So I get my

15:07

stuff together, walk back to the wire,

15:09

nothing out of the normal. Just

15:11

dark, you know, you hear your little critters and whatnot.

15:14

I get to my spot. I just sat in for

15:16

the day and I just sit there and just watch

15:18

the sun come up. Um, nothing

15:21

really happens. Nothing happens until

15:23

I go to leave. Um,

15:26

so basically I start to see the sun

15:28

come down long story short, because all

15:30

I'd then seen was pigs and deer, little does and stuff

15:32

like that. So you were there all day. I was there

15:34

all day. Cause when you go into the mountains like that,

15:36

as far as I would, you're not going to go in

15:38

there for two, three hours and walk two, three hours back.

15:40

It's not worth it. I'd go in there and set up

15:42

camp and just sit there. Cause I'd carry my backpack with

15:44

all my centers and stuff in it. So I was there

15:46

all day. Like I said, only thing come through

15:48

was a big old pig. I should have

15:50

shot him, but I wasn't dragging

15:52

that sucker out by myself. So,

15:55

uh, using them for bait for something

15:57

else, though, if you were thinking about it. Well,

16:00

it gets better with this whole story.

16:03

So it's the

16:05

end of the day. I see the sun coming down.

16:07

I'm gauging my, you know, my son signed by the,

16:09

my fingers and stuff. And that old Scouts trick, whatever,

16:11

you know, I've never been in Scouts. Um,

16:13

so I'm like, okay, it's time to go. So I

16:16

pack up my stuff. I'm walking out and I'm just be

16:18

bombed out and I always walk

16:20

out of the woods, even in or out with my

16:22

rifle unloaded. And I'll, I'll have it loaded in the

16:24

tube because I carry an old Marlin 30 30. Um,

16:28

but I don't carry one in the chamber because

16:30

you could fall, get, you know, go off and

16:32

hit yourself or whatever. Yeah. So just, I'm

16:35

walking out. Got it. I got

16:37

my backpack on his beep off around looking around. It's

16:39

my mom business. I hear a little shuffle to my

16:41

right. I stopped and looked

16:45

out really nothing. Didn't hear nothing else. I go

16:47

walk in some more. And this time

16:49

I started here shuffle. It was

16:51

like a shuffling. It wasn't a walk. It was

16:53

more like a shuffle type thing. And

16:56

I hear it getting closer and I can hear

16:58

it. It's keeping up with me. I

17:01

stop again. I'm thinking, okay, I

17:03

had a honey bun while sitting back there. I thought, okay,

17:06

maybe that honey bun drew in a bear or something. I

17:08

don't know. And I think about this.

17:10

We only have black bear here in East Tennessee. They're

17:13

not very big. They don't get very big. The

17:15

biggest one I've ever harsh harvested when it was

17:17

field dress was that 95 pounds. What?

17:20

Yeah. That'll get very big. Hold on. And a

17:22

black bear that's 95 pound. Wow.

17:26

They don't get very big around here. Like

17:28

now you go to Kay's Cove or Montts.

17:30

Okay. All right. Cause I, cause

17:32

they're fed there. Oh, I gotcha. Oh, now

17:34

it's making sense because like we, we

17:37

were, uh, we were in Gatlinburg and

17:39

we had a very large bear

17:41

walking through the park a lot next to my

17:43

truck, but they're being fed there. Got it. Yeah.

17:45

They're okay. But over in South Cherokee, they're very

17:47

wild and they don't have a lot of phase

17:49

source. It's over the last few

17:51

years, they've had a lot of hard times trying to get

17:53

acres and all this other stuff to eat. But anyways,

17:56

so what I stopped and I said, all

17:58

right. And I started to talk. I said, okay, bear, I know you're

18:01

up there. You just stay up there. We

18:03

won't have no problems. So I go walking

18:05

again, walking right up beside me. I

18:07

can't see what it is because it's very thick. It's a big

18:09

large thicket up on that side of the mountain. I

18:12

can't see what it is. All I can do is hear it. Now

18:14

I'm just going down there and going, Hey bear, you

18:17

know, Hey, I know you're just talking to it and

18:19

being loud, being aggressive in a way of my voice.

18:21

But it never did, but it just stayed right with

18:23

me. So we go on down

18:25

through a little bit more. And this time I

18:27

hear a twig snap and it's a lot closer.

18:29

I said, okay, you're getting a little too close

18:31

to the comfort. So I start

18:33

yelling again. I said, all right, you need to go on.

18:36

Let's go on. So we walked some more, get

18:38

a little closer. And

18:41

this time I'm getting a little, little antsy.

18:44

So I go ahead and I low rack them

18:46

around into the chamber on my 30, 30. You

18:48

don't have the safety, but I can flip the

18:50

hammer forward. So all I got to do is pull

18:52

it up, pull the hammer back, go to business. So

18:55

we're going down through our, and this time I start

18:57

to turn the face where the noise is. And

19:00

I sat, I thought, okay, let's see what, what will

19:02

happen if I speed up. So I started

19:05

to speed up a little bit, sped right up with me.

19:07

As soon as I would have brought, we stopped, it would

19:09

have brought, we stopped. I'm

19:11

thinking, God, this bear, this it's acting. I knew

19:13

it was acting weird. This is acting

19:15

very weird. And that, you know, growing up,

19:17

we never thought twice to Bigfoot. We never

19:19

thought of Bigfoot or nothing like it. Only

19:21

thing we heard close to Bigfoot growing up

19:23

was the woodbookers, but that's about it, but

19:27

I'm thinking, okay, I'm almost to the truck. I've

19:29

got to see if I can get him out.

19:32

So on

19:34

the trail, it does a little, a little curve

19:36

and the TWRA cuts some clearing out right there

19:38

to plant some grass for deer can come in

19:40

there and eat and whatnot. So,

19:43

and this curve, it dips down. It makes like

19:45

a big V. You got the

19:47

other part of the mountain here. And you got this little

19:49

reas that the grass part, the grassy portion sits on. So

19:52

I'm thinking, okay, he's still, whatever this bear

19:55

is still right here on this right-hand side.

19:57

And he's got to come down. Any

20:00

of these will keep the sign he's gonna have come

20:02

down in that bowl but that be bomb at me

20:04

and they come up behind me into the field. I

20:08

thought okay i'm gonna jump into the video and jump right

20:10

back into the field and see if he comes out so

20:12

i speed up a little bit i can hear keeping right

20:14

up with me i hit the v jump

20:16

up the red. And then i'm

20:18

listening and i'm walking through the field. And

20:21

i'm listening how the closer and closer is getting

20:23

them this time and i'm just walking on my

20:25

ready one two three i flip

20:27

around there's nothing not a

20:30

thing. I can hear

20:32

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