0:00

you're getting on, I'm getting off. It's like the

0:02

merry-go-round of dating apps. You know, someone's

0:04

always getting off, someone's always getting on.

0:20

Hi guys! Hi guys! Welcome back to

0:22

another episode of Girls Gotta Eat! Welcome

0:24

back! Welcome back from Europe! You

0:29

can't not say it. This

0:32

is like the third time this year you've had to

0:34

bring up that we just got back from somewhere.

0:37

Well, I am always just getting back from Europe.

0:40

Oh my god. You guys, I don't have a boyfriend, so I have nothing to

0:42

live for besides Europe. Europe

0:46

back to LA was a

0:49

hellish journey. I am

0:52

very upset. It was so brutal. Going there

0:54

was fine, direct, but coming back is

0:57

a different animal. Well, going anywhere for me is always

0:59

fine. I am like ready to roll.

1:01

Like I land, I'm excited, I'm like

1:03

full of life. Coming back, I

1:05

don't have anything left to live for. It was 22

1:08

hours. Yeah, I was. Did you do the math on that? Like

1:11

you were, you were pretty jet-lagged. I could not do any

1:13

math. As someone who doesn't get jet-lagged. I can't

1:15

relate. I, physically, she doesn't bloat.

1:18

Physically, I don't bloat. Every time I say

1:20

I don't get jet-lagged, I feel like Melissa McCarthy

1:22

in Bridesmaids. I don't bloat.

1:24

Physically, I just don't bloat. I feel like it's such

1:27

a brag, but it is my truth.

1:29

This was the worst jet-lag I've ever

1:31

had. I was fucked up. I'm still fucked up.

1:34

Yeah. I've been fucked up for like 12 days, but

1:36

we had an amazing trip. I'm really excited to talk about it.

1:38

And if you are watching, you'll notice we have some

1:41

vibes only boxes

1:43

next to us in between. Oh, that's why Azul's

1:45

not up here. He's like, oh, the vibrators really. Azul, come

1:47

get one of these. That vibrators on your back. You

1:51

know what? We also at some

1:53

point will need to address the fact

1:55

that we were going to call a toy the Azul, and then

1:57

we walked it back and we were like, that's fucking weird. I just.

1:59

letting you fly I was like if she wants to

2:02

name a dildo after her dog then

2:04

that's fine yeah just so you guys it is

2:06

a male toy that's named after one of your exes

2:11

which no one tried to stop

2:13

me no one I was like it's a little

2:15

weird that maybe you want to name a sex toy after your

2:17

dog and you're like that tracks that's fine and I was like what about

2:19

my ex-boyfriend's name and you were like yeah let's do that

2:22

but when you guys see you'll understand yeah

2:24

it's not like we called it like the Kevin now

2:26

I want to we

2:30

should come out with the most like self-inflated

2:33

average toy and call it the Chad please

2:39

go eat it's so funny we're

2:41

like this toy is just mediocre

2:44

at best yeah it thinks it's great okay

2:48

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2:50

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3:48

what is on your foot

3:50

what do you mean you guys are watching the youtube

3:52

right now ashley has not socks on i have

3:55

never seen this in the history of the podcast

3:57

now people can talk about your feet for the whole episode

3:59

Not just drops, you were with me. You

4:03

were with me when I bought these. So

4:06

these sneakers,

4:08

who are karyuma, who we had as a partner on

4:10

the show, I was wearing these no socks. That's

4:12

the most insane thing I've ever heard. It's not karyuma's

4:15

fault, it's your fault. Right. When you were

4:17

like, these are trying to really hurt my feet, I don't have socks

4:19

on to walk

4:22

around in Europe. So like, they

4:25

are comfortable, but after like five

4:27

hours, I start to get a little blister on my pinky

4:29

toe. They are still comfortable, but they were starting to rub,

4:31

but they did start to smell.

4:35

I don't hate the player, I hate the game. So

4:37

I was like, but I don't want to show my socks. Like, I

4:39

like the look of no sock. And you were like, you

4:42

gotta get these special socks. This is not a hot take. But

4:44

I always felt like these, even the ones that have

4:46

the little thing on the back that sticks to you. They

4:49

still work, but these are Lulu and they

4:52

are elite. They're so cute, I love them. Thanks.

4:55

Yeah. Do you think

4:56

you'll get them? Do you have a sock loyalty? I

4:58

have hundreds of socks upstairs. Do you think I have

5:00

a lot of sweatshirts? I wait till I show you the whole

5:03

armoire full of socks. I have,

5:05

oh my God. Hand socks, white socks, high socks, black

5:07

socks, workout socks. I have like three jewels of socks. What

5:09

was that, Bubba Gump? What was that?

5:13

Actually,

5:17

I come in for a bedroom.

5:18

I have a whole drawer of cocksocks

5:20

in case any guys want to come over and jerk off. What is that?

5:23

What is that?

5:24

I have a whole drawer of cocksocks in case any guys

5:26

want to come over and jerk off. A

5:28

cocksock? Oh, just for guys like me to jerk

5:31

off,

5:31

they come inside of them so that it doesn't make a mess.

5:35

You didn't even know that.

5:38

No, Raina, show up. Is that a joke? Any

5:40

sock could be a cocksock. They

5:42

don't sell them, it's because I'm branded.

5:46

Any sock could be a cocksock if

5:48

you believe in yourself. Well, I wear

5:50

socks around the house and to bed. That's

5:52

crazy. It is always a relationship

5:55

milestone when someone realizes it for the first

5:57

time. I forget that you sleep with socks on.

6:00

And I'm saying, are you naked? Are

6:03

you butt naked in the past?

6:05

But sometimes

6:09

I will just be butt naked. And

6:13

it's like, so the warmth and

6:15

the comforter is enough for the rest of your

6:17

body, but not your little toe. I see. I

6:20

don't know what I think. Maybe I have

6:21

like weak circulation, but my feet are always cold,

6:23

always cold. So I have so many socks, like fluffy

6:26

socks, warm socks, socks. Socks,

6:28

socks, socks. And I love socks. I get

6:30

socks every Christmas. I like the warmest

6:33

socks on the planet. It's like a whole thing, like super

6:35

fluffy. Like my mom gets me some every year. And

6:38

like, I always think that

6:40

a partner or

6:41

somebody I'm dating is going to think it's cute and

6:43

they just never do. I think it's adorable.

6:45

They're like, what are you doing? I think it starts

6:47

to grow in them. You know, like you fall in love with somebody. You're like,

6:50

oh, I love how she wears socks to bed. All their

6:52

ex become adorable. Yes. And then

6:54

it becomes like a joke. You know what I mean? Like

6:57

then my robot victim has to wear socks all around the planet. I

7:02

just love it.

7:03

I love it. Very

7:06

cool. Is it cute? Oh, that is so cool. Katie.

7:14

I really love them. We make

7:16

our own round and endmodels at one

7:18

point. Usually around like four

7:20

or five in the morning, I'll wake up and I take

7:22

them off. You're

7:25

a little more comfortable. That's your

7:27

4am ritual. Let

7:29

me spread these toes

7:30

out.

7:41

No panties. You

7:44

go full sock.

7:47

I usually wake up in the

7:50

middle of the night like I'm kind of hot and then that's when I

7:52

take them off.

7:55

I get a little more comfortable.

8:00

I'm wearing shoes

8:02

to record. I

8:03

got these new slippers that are really comfy.

8:06

Those are great. Yeah, I was excited to show them to you.

8:08

I love to put a shoe on a couch. Yeah.

8:13

Justice couch? Not inside.

8:15

You used to do it at WTF studios.

8:17

I'd be like, Grandma, this isn't your home. That's exactly

8:19

why I'm putting the shoes on it. I would never

8:21

put shoes on my own couch like an animal. That's

8:24

crazy. Big day. You guys,

8:26

I'm just like,

8:28

I'm so filled with excitement. I feel

8:30

like I'm going to burst. This has been such a long

8:32

time coming. Ashley and I have been tirelessly

8:36

masturbating with all of you guys.

8:39

We are finally ready to announce our first fall

8:42

drop. We have three new products. We are so

8:44

excited for you to put them in your body. Oh

8:46

my God. Yes. And your mouth. Yeah.

8:49

So if you are new here, Ashley and I have a premium

8:51

line of sex toys called vibes only with a

8:53

connected app. All the toys are Bluetooth connected

8:56

to the app and there's erotic audio stories, a

8:58

remote

8:58

control, long distance. There's how to

9:00

videos, all of that. And these are our two new

9:02

toys and our new blow gel flavor.

9:04

Do you want to start introducing them? Let's just start

9:06

with what everybody already knew, which is the

9:08

pumpkin spice blow gel. So

9:11

you can give a pumpkin spice blow job

9:13

this fall or eat some

9:15

pumpkin spice pussy because this is vulva friendly.

9:18

This

9:20

is our first vulva friendly formula,

9:22

which again, we just don't think you need to flavor

9:25

the pussy if you're eating it, but it comes right.

9:27

Mine actually is already pumpkin

9:32

spice. So we actually modeled

9:34

after my own. I do. I smell it. It's

9:36

like, he's like, he's like,

9:38

Ashley. Yeah. I'm always ready for fall. White

9:41

girl named Ashley. My favorite season. My pussy

9:43

is always ready. So this has

9:45

also been a long time coming. I'm just thinking about like a little

9:47

scarf knitted on your pussy.

9:50

A little mark in a little.

9:53

I'll tell you to keep it warm

9:55

in a fall. I'll keep it on my clit. What?

10:01

Slipping

10:03

your clit with sh**.

10:08

Like,

10:10

someone wants to finger me if you take

10:13

my uggs off.

10:20

No!

10:21

Your ugg, your singular ugg. A

10:25

little baby. A mule. A

10:27

little mule. A short ugg. Oh my god,

10:29

I'm sweating. Okay, so we have been talking about this since

10:31

last year. So

10:38

we launched in summer of 2022,

10:40

it was like too

10:41

short of a runway to develop

10:43

it for last fall, year one of the business.

10:45

So we're so excited to have it for this fall and we've

10:47

tested all the flavors. We want it to really taste like a

10:49

pumpkin spice latte. So you can have

10:51

a PSL on your DSLs,

10:55

get it? And it's incredible. And

10:57

we just love it as Volvo friendly. And so going forward,

11:00

all of our blow gels will

11:02

have a new name. So get ready for that. And they

11:04

will all be Volvo friendly as well. So we're going to have more

11:06

flavors coming out for the Christmas

11:09

holiday season. So get ready for those. Feel free

11:11

to take your guesses. Right now we still have the pina

11:13

colada and the orange creamsicle running really low on those.

11:16

We're going to retire those for the holiday season and we'll

11:18

have new flavors coming out. But going

11:21

forward, again, new name coming. This

11:23

is still blow gel, but we

11:25

are repackaging and doing all these fun things and it'll

11:27

be for the P and the D. So if you've never

11:29

tried this before, this one in particular, it's a little

11:32

sweet, it's a little cinnamony. It's the perfect

11:34

balance. And if you've never tried blow gel at

11:36

all, it's just a drop or two on a deck

11:38

or a vagina now and you can just go to

11:40

town. It just makes it taste fun. It just

11:42

adds like another element to the experience.

11:45

People that say to us, I don't like giving oral.

11:47

I'm not good at oral. We always say

11:49

the best thing to do is make it more enjoyable for yourself and

11:51

that's such a fun way to do it is just make everything

11:53

taste better. Yes. So enjoy a PSL

11:56

for your DSL as you said. Okay. And

11:59

let's save the biggest. Last but

12:01

this is just something fun. I want you to talk

12:03

about it. Obviously, it's your name Yeah, so

12:05

our number one bestseller in the company is

12:07

the Raina It is a dual ended

12:10

vibrator on one end or is a clitsucker

12:13

and on the other end It is a

12:15

vibrator if you guys are watching

12:17

YouTube and everything is fully on YouTube You

12:19

can see what it is, but you can bend

12:22

it You can put it inside of yourself and have the clitsucker

12:24

against your clits at the same time This is really fun to put

12:26

on a little naughty show for somebody. It's

12:28

unreal. It's our bestseller for a reason It's sold out

12:31

like four or five times now We just keep reordering

12:33

it and we were just like okay We have had this same

12:35

shade of pale pink for over

12:38

a year now. What can we do differently? And so we did

12:40

hot pink it's giving Barbie. So

12:42

you never need a Ken again Yeah,

12:46

just go on a solo mission with yourself If

12:49

you have a hard time getting off and definitely

12:51

people tell us they have a hard time masturbating or

12:53

getting there This really is a great vibrator

12:56

for you because it's direct clitoral stimulation.

12:58

Yeah, and the color is so spicy

13:00

It's got that beautiful VO logo there's

13:02

separate controls for the vibrator on one

13:04

end and the sucker on the other end and this

13:07

is just Like a little Barbie wand

13:09

that pink is perfect again This stuff

13:11

takes us so long because we're so meticulous

13:13

about it and this was another thing where we like

13:15

got a sample We're like no wrong pink

13:18

like we're obsessed with it and this really is

13:20

kind of outside of our typical color scheme So I

13:22

don't even know that we'll have toys in this color in the

13:24

future. Maybe maybe not We'll see what you guys think

13:27

but right now this is like very limited edition

13:29

like one run So get the Reyna in

13:31

hot pink. Yes, and Finally

13:35

finally newest vibrator in

13:37

the collection the Allison wonderland This

13:40

is our rabbit. Take a minute soak

13:43

it in if you're watching you should be watching

13:45

but I mean this is truly

13:48

Changing the vibrator game. This is the most

13:51

beautiful special versatile

13:53

rabbit You'll ever have and if you are

13:55

somebody who started your masturbation

13:57

journey with that rabbit style. That was my story

13:59

Mine too. It's like how far we've come

14:02

with the materials and how beautiful it is

14:04

and how not scary the clit simulator

14:06

It's not a fucking rabbit with ears for your clit

14:08

like it's just so beautiful So this took

14:11

us a year to develop and we

14:13

really conceptualize this end to end Like

14:16

Ashley said the first vibrators we both really used

14:18

were these big clunky Masculine

14:20

looking vibrators this rabbit

14:23

first of all has a beautiful gold detail

14:25

So it has a ring in the center. We call those guns

14:28

slinger rose gold details

14:29

So it looks really feminine and

14:32

chic my little clit stimulator

14:35

has a flat pad on it So it really

14:37

covers your whole clit which I haven't seen

14:39

on a rabbit before. They're usually a little pointy here Yes,

14:41

that's what I don't like. They're like pointy I'm like

14:43

this is not comfortable on the most sensitive

14:46

part of my body and Ashley had to

14:48

really test this from the beginning Ashley

14:50

put the prototype the hard plastic prototype

14:52

inside of her. Yes, and I zoom

14:55

call I mean I went to the bathroom, but we all had

14:57

to pause the call while I went stuck it inside my

14:59

body I used lube

14:59

because I have that tight little pussy and I was

15:02

like I can't and then we had to kind of like fix The

15:04

spacing so we've really put a lot

15:06

of work into this and of course, we know everybody's bodies

15:08

are different shaped But this really should be

15:10

a perfect fit in terms of wanting to

15:12

penetrate yourself with it and also have that Clip

15:15

stimulator hit your clit But what

15:17

else which is so special to me is that the shaft

15:20

and this head is really so

15:23

soft and like kind of squishy So you

15:25

can just put the head on your clit and

15:27

masturbate that way That's what I've been doing,

15:29

you know If I'm like feeling lazy

15:31

and just want to get one in and it's so soft

15:34

It feels so good again. We got

15:36

a prototype. We're like, nope not squishy enough So

15:38

we went back in and just made it completely

15:40

perfect. So it's really super versatile

15:42

That's why we call it the Alice in Wonderland because

15:45

you can explore your own body in so

15:47

many different ways Yes, and there's two

15:49

different buttons. You can control the shaft and the clip

15:51

simulator separately This really I like

15:53

for like a long masturbation session So

15:56

I'll start with the shaft on vibrating and I'll

15:58

just fuck myself with that when I'm ready to push myself

16:00

over the edge, I turn on the arm, the Clit Simulator.

16:03

Well, I feel like you could start with the shaft

16:06

on your clit, like teasing yourself. So

16:08

start just like using the super

16:10

soft, exquisitely squishy shaft

16:13

and head to like tease yourself. And

16:15

then when you're ready, you slip it in and then you

16:17

have like the full penetration and then the Clit Simulator

16:19

obviously hitting your clit. And again, these all

16:22

connect to the Vibes Only app and

16:24

you can get in the app for free and you can use the controller

16:26

and then there are paid features as well. One of the best paid

16:28

features is the

16:29

long distance controller. So your

16:32

partner can be controlling your vibrator from

16:34

anywhere in the world that the app is available.

16:36

We always say from down the street to across

16:39

the globe. And that's like a really fun way, especially

16:41

if you're in a long distance relationship to really get

16:43

that in. It's super easy to connect and just

16:46

go to town. So we love it. Those

16:48

are the three products. We'll be talking more about these and

16:51

we have some new products even coming before

16:53

the end of the year. This is just the first drop of all

16:55

the new stuff that we're doing. It's been a long time coming. We're

16:58

so excited to introduce you guys to new things for Vibes

16:59

Only. Yeah, so vibesonly.com to

17:02

get everything. Sign up for the newsletter. We'll

17:04

always email you with discounts,

17:06

new products, cool new content in the

17:08

app. You can get in there now and just

17:11

check it out. We're really excited for you guys to get

17:13

off, try some new things solo

17:15

or with a partner. We're just really excited to bring these

17:17

things to you. Yes. And we're doing

17:20

a giveaway so you can check out our Instagrams. Reina and I are going to

17:22

collab a post. So I'm Ash Hess,

17:24

Reina is reina.greenberg and we

17:26

are going to give away all three new products

17:28

to one lucky winner and their best

17:30

friend. So you'll go there, you'll see the rules. You

17:32

need to follow us and tag your friend and you're going to get

17:35

all three. So two people are definitely

17:37

getting all three of these things. The pumpkin spice

17:39

blow gel, the Alice in Wonderland and the hot pink

17:41

Reina. You know us. We'll

17:43

probably

17:43

be like, pick another winner. Fuck it. Who

17:45

cares? I always get excited because so many people are like so excited in

17:47

the comments and I'm like give it to everybody. I know.

17:51

But for now

17:54

it's for you and your bestie. You just have to follow

17:56

Vibes Only, tag a friend and we're really

17:58

excited to give this to you guys. So check

18:00

it out and two lucky winners, maybe Ashley

18:02

will decide to do more. We'll get the full line

18:05

Okay, and one last thing we just want to promote

18:07

is our tour we have coming up

18:10

this week We are in Austin and Dallas Austin

18:12

is probably sold out at this point It was really close, but we still

18:14

tickets to Dallas the Dallas show is

18:16

always one of our most unhinged never

18:19

fails Since being at

18:21

the House of Blues to being at the majestic theater

18:23

where we will be back at the majestic theater

18:25

this Friday night Get those tickets

18:28

multiple special guests. Yes

18:30

starting with my dad Come

18:33

see Bill Greenberg in the flesh and other

18:35

Dallas based people. Yeah Oh

18:38

my god, duh. Okay, so get those

18:40

tickets and of course, we have so many other cities coming

18:42

up after this We're going to Atlanta

18:44

and Charlotte and Nashville and we're just all over them We

18:46

come back to the West Coast and we end in New York and

18:48

Toronto You guys don't go to our site girls got

18:50

eat calm and get those tickets to the snack city tour

18:53

fall tour So

18:57

well, and we do give away vibes only products

18:59

that every single show so your ticket

19:01

might come with a free vibrator You never know and

19:04

we always love to feature your story So

19:06

send us any wild crazy stories

19:08

about you and the people that you're coming with you want

19:10

to roast your friends your significant other

19:13

You're coming with maybe bring your mom or your daughter

19:15

Send that to stories at girls got to eat calm

19:18

and at the shows We tell stories that

19:20

we don't share in the podcast and

19:22

then after some time we retire them

19:24

and we share new stories So the stuff that we're sharing

19:27

now on tour is just so good.

19:29

It's so fun It's really stuff that

19:31

we just like to keep in a safe space in that room

19:33

I had to prep my family I had a time for the

19:35

stories at the London show because my dad my brother

19:38

my sister-in-law came and I was like sure some stuff.

19:40

I would like to just talk to you about that I'm so funny you

19:42

have to prep them. So that being said

19:45

we are retiring the rusty story,

19:47

right? I was gonna tell you guys here on the podcast,

19:50

but we're gonna take a break first So

19:53

I am going to tell you about quince,

19:55

okay fall fashion revamping

19:58

your fall wardrobe, there is no better time

19:59

I am just on Quince's site right now dying

20:02

over everything. All of the sweaters,

20:05

the outerwear, the bag. I like that

20:07

bag. Everything. The bedding?

20:10

I admittedly do not know about them till they started

20:12

being a partner of ours and I love them so

20:14

much. So this is a really

20:17

high quality clothing brand. Really

20:20

luxury items and at unreal prices.

20:22

Like when you're seeing these prices, you're like, what

20:24

could be going on here? What is the catch? But Quince

20:26

only works

20:26

with Factor. Pennsylvania, New York,

20:29

Pennsylvania, Ohio, West

20:31

Virginia, they all have burial mounds.

20:33

And for me as a person that's

20:35

trying to find answers, I'm not afraid to

20:38

ask questions to myself

20:40

that I don't understand. What is this?

20:42

Could this be spiritual? And I'm

20:45

going to try to find answers

20:48

whether it's crazy to people or not. But

20:51

I don't know the spiritual element that

20:53

these Native Americans had with all of this stuff.

20:55

But I do believe that they believed it.

20:58

So I believe that they believe. You know what I mean?

21:01

Absolutely. I'm

21:03

very much a person that thinks that

21:06

most modern American people

21:09

don't give enough credence to

21:11

the Native American tradition and culture. And

21:14

I always use the example of the

21:16

idea that these stories

21:19

are passed down through generations. And

21:22

one of the things that I always hear people say is, over

21:24

time, the story gets skewed. Because

21:27

from one person to another, kind of like the story, you know, when

21:29

you're a kid in school and just whisper down the alley,

21:32

by the time it gets to the end of the line, it's totally different

21:34

thing than what it started as. But one of the

21:36

things that I always tell people is that the

21:38

Native Americans put a lot of emphasis

21:41

on the idea of oral tradition. And

21:44

they would identify people at a young age, their

21:46

children. They identify the people who

21:48

have a tendency to have a good memory.

21:50

And they train them from a very young age to

21:53

be the story keeper

21:55

of the tribe. And it was something that was

21:58

an honor position. If you were chosen... to

22:00

do that. You did that with honor and

22:04

you repeated these stories over and over again. That's

22:06

how the stories stayed alive. So

22:09

the accuracy never dwindled because

22:11

they're always telling these stories over and

22:13

over again. I know you probably

22:15

found similar things, right?

22:17

Yes. My

22:20

grandmother was Cherokee Indian and she always

22:23

told us stories about the

22:26

spirits that the Native American believed in. She never specifically

22:28

said big foot or any of that. But there

22:31

is

22:32

an energy that's attached to the land. And

22:34

when you historically look at Pennsylvania, the

22:36

Indians

22:37

were kind of driven out of Pennsylvania

22:39

and into Ohio. And to

22:41

me, the area of Ohio like Tashokton

22:44

and Salt Fork, those

22:46

are areas where these tribes that came from

22:48

Pennsylvania, settled or they

22:50

were with the Moravians. And a lot

22:53

of that energy is also tied to that land,

22:55

which is interesting. When I think

22:57

of big foot, I never ever

22:59

would have thought of big foot in Pennsylvania or

23:01

Ohio. I always think of like the

23:04

West Coast or Canada.

23:06

And

23:07

even then, but when you research

23:09

all this stuff with the Native Americans, it really

23:12

plays an important role in their culture. And I

23:14

think that there's something more to

23:16

it that we have to look at.

23:18

Absolutely. And Jamie,

23:20

I think I might have talked to you about this years

23:22

ago, maybe when I first started the

23:24

Facebook group. But I remember I came

23:26

across a book, I think it was called,

23:29

and this is politically incorrect, but I think it was called Indian

23:32

Trails of Pennsylvania. And I think

23:35

it was the book that I was looking at,

23:37

it had all these old mapped

23:41

out Native American trails throughout

23:44

the state of Pennsylvania. And I think I asked

23:46

you this, but I don't remember what you told me. Do

23:49

you think that if we could identify

23:51

the old Native American trails that they

23:53

used, do you think we'd have a better chance of

23:56

maybe seeing such activity

23:58

of Sasquatch? think that maybe

24:00

they do have this

24:08

Native

24:19

American and a lot of them, that's where you're

24:21

finding a lot of the sightings.

24:25

Even Dave Groves where he had his, that's

24:27

part of Indian Trails.

24:30

Really?

24:31

Yes.

24:32

Wow, that's good to know. I didn't know that. Does he know that? I'm sure

24:34

he does. I'm

24:35

not sure that he does know that. I don't know that I ever

24:38

told him that, but yes.

24:40

That's incredible. I definitely will be connecting

24:42

with him to tell him that. I just, I

24:44

don't know a ton about Native American

24:47

tradition or you know, not

24:50

nearly as much as you do, but I always

24:52

found it fascinating and it's

24:54

one of those things where it's, you either have

24:56

to study up on it yourself or have somebody teach

24:59

you a little bit. Unfortunately for me, I don't have

25:01

a lot of time to do studying, you know, between

25:03

driving trucks 60 hours a week and then doing the

25:05

show and all the stuff I do. The studying

25:08

aspect of thing kind of puts, gets put on the back

25:10

burner. So I rely on people like you who

25:12

do actually know these things to kind of clue

25:14

me in as to what's going on, but

25:17

the Native American aspect of things I think people

25:20

should definitely look into more when it comes, especially

25:22

when it comes to Bigfoot Sasquatch

25:25

because I think there's a direct

25:27

link to the two. And

25:30

also with the, what you mentioned about earlier

25:32

about the Alagui, I mean

25:35

these things, I personally believe that

25:37

these things were real. We found the Barrio

25:39

Mountains and I think it shows

25:42

that at least throughout the region,

25:44

I personally believe throughout the country, throughout the North

25:47

American region at least, there

25:49

was giants that roamed the land and there's

25:51

stories of Native Americans fighting

25:53

these things. Have you come across those stories before? Yeah,

25:56

you know, I've come across them and I've read a

25:58

lot of them and It's

26:01

history, but we don't know how true the history

26:03

is and Native American stuff

26:06

is oral history. In

26:09

the 1800s, they were finding large

26:13

bones, Northeast Pennsylvania, Astra Bula,

26:15

Ohio, West Virginia, down

26:18

near the Pennitentiary

26:20

down in Moundsville,

26:23

West Virginia.

26:24

Moundsville, I just ran across

26:26

somebody from Moundsville. I just can't remember where

26:28

I found this person, but the

26:31

name Moundsville, when you tie it

26:33

together with the Giants,

26:37

that kind of makes sense because I don't know if

26:39

there's a lot of mounds there, but I know that there's

26:41

a lot of burial mounds that people say Giants are

26:43

in. I wonder if there's a connection there. Have you

26:45

ever heard about that at all? Well,

26:47

you know, honestly, I've been to Moundsville,

26:49

but I went to the Pennitentiary for a ghost hunt.

26:52

I've never... You can see the mound from the prison. And

26:55

I don't know that they found bones in the mounds.

26:58

I don't think they did in Moundsville, but

27:00

they have claimed to have found bones

27:03

that went to the Carnegie

27:06

Institute. I don't

27:08

know. The trail of finding

27:10

these bones, that's another big question.

27:13

Will people actually be able to look at them? Who knows?

27:15

I don't know.

27:16

Okay. Yeah.

27:18

So I wanted to kind of shift gears here a little bit.

27:21

And you mentioned about the recorder a little bit.

27:24

I was wondering, for people who maybe haven't

27:26

heard this, when Dave

27:28

came on and shared his story, we talked about it a little

27:30

bit. Would you mind going into, like, how

27:32

the recorder works for people? I know we talked about

27:35

it on a previous show, not you and I, but me and

27:37

Dave. But since it's your recorder, would

27:39

you mind talking about it a little bit for us?

27:41

Well, it's actually not my recorder. I borrow it because

27:44

it's very expensive. Our

27:46

friend, Rochelle, uses...it's called a Panasonic

27:49

DR-60. And basically, it

27:51

became popular in the ghost hunting world

27:53

because basically

27:56

somebody discovered that people were returning

27:58

it to Panasonic because they were... hearing background

28:00

noise, they were hearing voices that

28:03

weren't there. So we started when

28:05

we started ghost hunting at Hey-Ho-View

28:07

Manor where we're both volunteers, this

28:10

recorder we started using it more and more. But what's

28:13

interesting about this recorder in particular

28:15

is our voice comes across like

28:17

our voice and a voice that

28:20

is of a different frequency comes across

28:22

in a different frequency but it's still understandable.

28:25

And the way we record is we'll

28:27

record and we ask intelligent questions

28:30

in order to get intelligent responses back.

28:33

One of the questions might be, how many fingers

28:36

am I holding up? So I'm holding four fingers

28:38

up.

28:39

I've had it come across the recorder,

28:41

I see

28:42

four. You know like a complete sentence.

28:45

It's not just four, it's I see four.

28:47

So when I was in the Alleghenies

28:49

with Dave Groves and Scott Gear, we were

28:52

researching you know at night

28:54

with Bigfoot and I remember Scott Gear's

28:57

daughter was there and we went over to

28:59

the edge of this dark area

29:01

where we were hearing something. It sounded

29:04

like walking. So I started recording and

29:06

I remember like asking different questions but

29:08

I wanted to like establish

29:10

like what is there. You know I don't know if I'm communicating

29:13

with an Indian. I don't know if I'm communicating

29:15

with a ghost but I really did have

29:18

a response on the recorder. You know and people

29:20

can believe that or they don't have to believe that. But I

29:22

know what is on that recorder and

29:25

I even took it to my friend's recording studio

29:27

and a lot of times I'll take recordings

29:30

that I've used in research with Bigfoot

29:32

to his studio and we put them on and we'll play

29:34

them and it's really interesting

29:37

to hear it in an actual studio.

29:40

Yeah now you're talking about where it

29:42

sounds like it says Allegheny, right?

29:45

Yeah and it really does. I mean it says Allegheny,

29:47

like there's no doubt. Right and

29:50

I do remember playing that on the show

29:52

and I will play it right here

29:54

now. Can

29:56

you tell me the name of this forest?

30:00

I can hear you off to my right. Is that you?

30:03

Yes or no? Can

30:06

you tell me the name of this course? I

30:10

can hear you off to my right. Is that you? Yes

30:12

or no? Can

30:16

you tell me the name of this force? I

30:20

can hear you off to my right. Is that you?

30:22

Yes or no?

30:32

So that was the sound and I

30:35

think it's a really awesome recording

30:37

because it really

30:40

shows what you just described as how

30:42

it works and everything. For

30:44

me, I definitely

30:47

hear it saying Allegheny and

30:50

when I played it on the show before, I never had

30:52

anybody email me saying that they

30:55

didn't hear it. I actually had

30:57

people say the opposite that they did hear it in

30:59

the recording. So for you,

31:01

I know you don't look for validation from other

31:03

people but I would just say there's validation for

31:05

you because other people have heard it as well.

31:09

My other favorite recording

31:11

that night was, I don't know why I even said

31:14

it but sometimes I just start saying

31:16

stuff but I said, do

31:18

you have human DNA? I have no idea why

31:20

I asked that but the response

31:22

that I got back was again another

31:24

full sentence and it said, I don't know what

31:26

DNA is. That kind

31:28

of took me aback because when

31:30

I'm ghost hunting, you're

31:33

with a lot of people that

31:35

maybe are of the same frequency of you and

31:37

you can take one person in a group

31:40

and you can ghost hunt with them and maybe that one

31:42

person, you will get nothing. You

31:45

take that one person out of there and you

31:48

start recording and it opens it back up

31:50

and you have experiences. I don't

31:52

know if people are on a frequency and

31:54

it's just how we operate

31:57

or it's like tuning in. a

32:00

frequency and it's received.

32:02

Yeah that's fascinating, that's absolutely fascinating.

32:05

And so you said that you you borrow that recorder

32:08

and it just kind of made me chuckle a little bit when you first

32:10

said that because I remember talking

32:13

to I think it was Brian and Brian

32:15

had looked up how

32:17

you know to buy that recorder because he wanted one and I think

32:19

he said it's like fifteen hundred dollars or something like that.

32:21

They're expensive recorders. This isn't like just something

32:24

you got at Kmart right? Right

32:26

no no it's you know

32:28

it was a recorder that sold for like sixteen dollars

32:30

back in the early 90s and now

32:32

it's like it's gone crazy. But actually

32:37

like when I took it to my friend's recording studio

32:39

and we connected it and he was looking

32:42

at it and he said Jamie this recording the voice

32:44

that you captured on this recorder is below

32:47

28th v which is called

32:49

infrasound. So infrasound a

32:51

lot of people in the Bigfoot community believe that

32:54

animals like they animals do communicate

32:56

in infrasound certain animals. Right.

32:58

But they also believe Bigfoot does. I

33:00

don't I can't say for sure I don't know I don't

33:03

know because I know what I heard the day

33:06

we had our experience was very physical

33:08

and I could hear it but I don't know

33:10

how they communicate in general like

33:12

below human hearing. I don't know and no one

33:14

can really answer that question.

33:17

Yeah well I actually agree with that because you know

33:19

you know that I think it's drafts they

33:22

use infrasound. I know a lot our

33:24

tigers use infrasound. I think even

33:26

whales use infrasound. So for

33:28

me I don't see it far fetched

33:30

at all that you know Sasquatch could use

33:33

such things to communicate or

33:35

even to stun prey. I mean

33:38

if they're hunting for food or something

33:40

like that because I know that's what tigers do

33:42

they actually use that as a weapon. And

33:45

I know I think Dave had said about

33:47

how he kind of went into an area and he felt

33:49

real sick and stuff I'm not saying it's

33:51

Bigfoot but apparently whenever somebody

33:54

new comes into that area it's a very common

33:56

thing that they get very ill at

33:58

first when they enter that area. It just

34:00

makes you wonder what that's all about.

34:06

You and I and Jamie were talking

34:08

before the show and you mentioned that

34:11

you started ghost hunting back in 2004, right?

34:14

Yes, I did.

34:16

Would you share

34:18

with the audience how you got involved in ghost hunting

34:20

before your encounter with Bigfoot?

34:23

Oh, yeah.

34:25

Like I was saying, I was working at

34:27

a doctor's office and the one girl

34:29

I worked with, she's like, hey, do you want to

34:31

go on a ghost hunt? And I'm like,

34:34

a ghost hunt? I'm like, what's that? And she's like,

34:36

yeah, well, that's when you go into

34:38

a honey place and you

34:40

ghost hunt. You communicate with ghosts.

34:43

And I'm like, that sounds cool. I'm

34:45

up for that. So I'm like, okay. So

34:48

she's like, oh, we're going to go to Ohio State

34:50

Reform Mator. And I'm like, okay, I have no

34:52

idea what that is or where it's at. I'll go. So,

34:55

you know, I went with a bunch of people

34:57

and

34:58

we went there and the place is just fabulous.

35:00

I'm like, this place is awesome. And just

35:03

the history of it is just cool if

35:05

anybody out

35:05

there has been there. But, I mean,

35:07

we did have experiences at night, you

35:10

know, because of course I didn't have any

35:12

equipment because this is my first

35:14

time. So, you know, other people

35:16

had equipment and we got responses. You know,

35:18

of course I'm feeling things. I'm like, wow,

35:20

this is interesting.

35:23

I've never been to anything like this before.

35:24

And it was a lot of fun. It

35:26

got me hooked right away.

35:29

So ever since then, I've been doing it.

35:31

That's awesome. That's awesome. So,

35:35

you said that there were some experiences having that night.

35:37

Anything that you'd like to share? Oh, man.

35:39

Well, ever since

35:42

then, you know, I've been having experiences,

35:44

I guess.

35:45

Well, what's one of your favorite experiences

35:47

you've had?

35:48

Oh, wow. Well, just

35:50

my favorite ones. Well,

35:53

it healed you, man or the new cast. I've

35:56

had a lot

35:56

of experiences, not just seeing

35:58

things, but...

36:00

I mean, just being there and feeling

36:03

things and you see, like, you

36:05

just go down one north if anybody out

36:07

there has been to Hillview,

36:09

and at the end of one north, you

36:11

will definitely see somebody standing at

36:14

the end of one north.

36:16

Either walking at the end of one

36:18

north or just standing there, it's pretty

36:21

much guaranteed. I think every time I go there, I'll

36:23

see something there.

36:25

Even like, peeking in and out of the doorways.

36:27

I mean, I've seen it so many

36:29

times. I think my favorite experience was

36:31

kind of funny. Michelle

36:34

was doing a tour and it was

36:36

Halloween of all nights. It was Halloween

36:39

night. And another

36:41

volunteer and I, we were in

36:43

what's called Warren's Room.

36:45

And him and I were in Warren's

36:48

Room and I was, like, speaking to Warren.

36:50

I said, hey, Warren, do you know what tonight is? It's

36:52

Halloween. And I'm like, do you

36:54

want some candy? I can bring you up some candy.

36:57

And all of a sudden, I just got

36:59

this weird, like,

37:01

sound. Like it was almost like the, like,

37:04

on the right side of my body and I could actually

37:06

feel it. And I actually screamed. And

37:08

it actually takes

37:11

a lot to scare me because I've been doing this for a while.

37:14

But I actually screamed and TR,

37:16

the other guy that was with me, he was on the other side

37:19

of the room and he heard it. He was like, I don't know

37:21

if I'm allowed to swear on your show, but he was like, holy shit.

37:24

Everybody

37:27

came running in the room. They're like, what's going on? And

37:29

I'm like, oh, my God, Warren, Warren screamed

37:31

in my ear.

37:33

Wow. That was just kind of funny,

37:35

though. So I'm like, Warren scared me. Wow.

37:39

And that's crazy. I mean, to hear the vocalization

37:41

like that, I can't say I have

37:43

ever, not that I can remember, ever heard

37:45

of vocalization. And I think

37:47

that would freak me out. I really

37:49

do. I think that would freak me out a lot. Oh,

37:52

man. It was pretty cool, though.

37:54

I was like, I had to bring them up some

37:56

candy, then. Have

37:59

you ever seen the...

37:59

the candy disappear?

38:02

No, I don't know. I

38:04

have not. Okay. But

38:07

we do put like balls and stuff like in

38:10

hallways and then we come back and

38:12

they'll be moved. You know, like that's

38:14

when the volunteers are there by themselves.

38:17

So nobody else is in the building and

38:19

we'll come back to that same spot and they'll be moved.

38:21

You

38:22

know, there's no wind. There's nothing that can

38:24

move them. So I've never actually

38:27

known of anything to disappear.

38:30

Did you guys start ghost hunting together

38:32

before your Bigfoot encounter? Yes.

38:36

Okay, so the teamwork

38:38

I'm sure the the chemistry

38:40

between you two was great for getting into

38:43

Bigfoot researching into your

38:45

area. I still, like I said, I still

38:47

think it's awesome that you guys are working

38:50

together in the focused area

38:52

and it's just awesome. I know it means so much to you guys.

38:54

Like it's a very emotional experience.

38:56

This isn't like something that people are

38:58

just going, you're just going out there to hang out and see

39:01

what happens. Like it's an emotional thing for you

39:03

guys, how it all developed and how it's

39:05

progressing to this point. So there's

39:07

a lot of respect there that I have for you guys. Jamie,

39:11

earlier you mentioned about the lights, the balls,

39:13

I think you called it balls of light, right? That you

39:15

that you could hold in your hand. You

39:17

know, I would call them beams of light. They were three.

39:20

Okay. So

39:23

you couldn't like feel it or anything? You

39:25

just... No, no. Honestly, when I

39:27

first opened my eyes, I put

39:30

my hand through it. Like it was through it. But

39:32

I could hold them in my hand. So it's you know,

39:34

like Tony, I know it sounds crazy. I know

39:36

it does. But for one

39:38

entire month, I could close

39:41

my eyes, open them and they would be there. And

39:43

to me, it was more like it wasn't a matter

39:46

of, it was like a peaceful

39:48

feeling. And if anybody

39:50

knows the relationship that I had with my parents,

39:52

they were like my best friends. So losing

39:55

both of them was very, very hard. So the

39:58

connection between my parents and... myself goes

40:01

beyond this physical body.

40:04

Sure.

40:06

Okay. Yeah, I was just trying

40:08

to gauge as to what you were

40:10

experiencing there. But that's

40:13

very interesting, man. Like, I

40:15

don't see why anybody would, you know, want to doubt.

40:18

I guess I can understand why you feel like some people

40:20

would doubt you on that and stuff. But

40:22

I definitely find that interesting. I've heard so many different

40:24

stories of people's experiences, especially

40:27

once somebody that they loved had

40:30

passed away, you know, the different experiences

40:32

they've had. It's just, for me, it's

40:34

like I look at them like, yeah, of course. Like,

40:37

of course people are experiencing these kind of things. Now,

40:41

when you guys, I wanted to ask you, and I keep forgetting to

40:43

ask you this, when you were out

40:46

there and you had your first experience

40:48

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40:50

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40:53

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40:56

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40:58

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41:02

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41:04

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41:07

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41:09

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41:11

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41:13

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41:16

you think? Go

41:17

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41:20

the vocalization that it made, I don't

41:24

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41:26

don't know if it...

41:28

It was just, it seemed so loud.

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41:45

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41:47

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41:51

I don't... Yeah,

41:54

it was

41:55

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41:57

you how far away it was, because we're in a stream.

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46:12

Rusty time.

46:14

You guys, I have really

46:17

gate kept this story. I

46:19

brought it up, but I was like, right now we never told

46:21

our dedicated listeners what happened.

46:24

We only were sharing at the live shows. And of course we'll give

46:26

you the backstory when we're talking about if you're a newer

46:28

listener here, if you are, thank you for being here. But I

46:30

really told a lot of stories about

46:32

this guy and then we just kind of stopped talking about him. So

46:34

I was talking about him at the live shows. So basically

46:37

what had happened is I went to this art gallery and

46:39

there was this guy working there for the day.

46:41

His friend who owned the gallery had

46:43

gone down to an art show and

46:45

this guy was just there for the day. And I thought he was so gorgeous

46:48

and a little bit quiet and withholding and

46:50

so sexy. And I was like trying to get him to like,

46:52

give me his information. And oh my god Azul

46:55

just like plopped down on top of me. I know.

46:57

And I'm so sorry. He is getting

46:59

a bath tomorrow. He smells bad. I can always

47:01

smell animals now though. Babes are not. It's extra

47:03

today. Sorry. Actually,

47:05

the fans like stop bothering me.

47:07

You guys are watching

47:09

YouTube, which he's shoving. He was just like with

47:11

this family all week and their

47:13

dogs. That was so cute. I know.

47:15

So he's just, he's been playing. He's overdue.

47:17

But he gets screwed tomorrow. I can't smell him which means

47:19

I'm sick. Yeah. So

47:22

anyways, I was trying to find

47:24

this guy. I tried to get his information. He did not

47:26

give it to me. I gave it to him, but he put it on the gallery

47:29

list and put my phone number and email down

47:31

on the gallery list. And the saga continued

47:33

of me just buying art from this gallery, trying

47:35

to talk to the owners and find out who this guy was

47:37

and how I could find him. And I think

47:40

that was like the last I ever updated you

47:42

guys about. But I bought this art. I went

47:44

back up to the gallery to buy the art. I bring him up like

47:46

a third time to the owners and they completely

47:48

swap my mention away. Yeah. And that's it.

47:51

That's the end of the story. So I'm going to give

47:53

you the rest of the story now. And I'm

47:55

really excited you guys weird to like not

47:57

hear a bunch of applause and cheering. I

47:59

know.

47:59

We really want crazy for it. Yes, people went

48:02

crazy for this at the live shows. And we call him

48:04

Rusty because I couldn't give you guys his real name,

48:06

but that was Ashley's family's dog name. One of

48:08

them, yes. So the part of the

48:10

story of me basically picking

48:13

up the art finally was that on

48:16

my way out the door, I don't want

48:18

to bury the lead. We found him.

48:20

Yeah, we found him. And I went out with him.

48:22

But the way that I found him was so crazy.

48:25

So I went up and I picked

48:27

up this final piece of art that I was buying from the gallery. On

48:30

my way out the door, there's this girl at the desk.

48:32

She's so cute. And she kind of looks up at me. She works there.

48:34

And she was like, what do you do? And I said,

48:37

I just podcast called Girls Giddy. And she was like,

48:39

maybe I'll

48:39

listen some time. What's it about? I tell her a little bit about

48:42

it. And then I leave. And then that's the end. That

48:44

is the end of the story. I don't think I'll ever hear from these people again.

48:47

And about what, two weeks later,

48:49

I forget all about the whole situation.

48:51

I forget we've been talking about this for weeks. I

48:53

forget that there's Instagram clips about this. And

48:56

we are sitting at my house with a room

48:58

full of girls. There's like eight of us here. And

49:01

I get a text message from a number that I don't know. It

49:03

pops up my phone. And it is

49:06

the girl from the gallery.

49:07

And she says, hi, it's so and so from

49:09

this gallery. I'm driving

49:12

on Sunset and I'm listening to the podcast.

49:15

And I

49:17

am losing my shit. I

49:19

am just like, what does the dot dot dot mean? Immediately,

49:21

I'm just like, this is her boyfriend. This is her boyfriend that

49:24

I've been talking about the podcast every single week. And

49:26

she knows him. And she's like, are you fucking serious? You

49:28

told me to listen to the podcast. I'm listening to you talk to my boyfriend

49:30

every week. And so I mean,

49:33

I thought it sounded you could

49:35

take it either way. And I was like, you only have one option

49:37

here. You just have to be like, oh, well, he he

49:39

he he he. You like just have to act

49:41

like she's being light. Like

49:43

you have to even play dumb if she's

49:45

just like, bitch, I'm about to fuck you up. You have to be like,

49:48

thanks for listening. Right. Also, what's

49:50

she gonna do about it? So we crowdsource the

49:52

whole room. Everybody comes to the conclusion that

49:54

that's the text. And so we're just like, thank

49:56

you so much for listening. And

49:59

she writes back. Well, she said I'm happy

50:01

to facilitate the rusty. I'm happy

50:03

to facilitate the introduction.

50:05

Yeah, and I like lose my mind We're all

50:07

screaming in the best like our moment.

50:09

We are all just like losing it I'm like, oh my god,

50:11

she's gonna do it and she's like, let me know you want me to do Do

50:14

you want me to give you his number? Do you want me to invite

50:16

you both to like a situation at the gallery that's come to

50:18

a party together? and I was like just give

50:20

him my number and if he wants to talk to me he can and so

50:25

Literally in 10 minutes. I get a text

50:27

from him and it says hi

50:29

Reina it's rusty but

50:32

he didn't say rusty and that his

50:34

name is his real name And I think he kind of

50:36

knew like he should have said rusty if he had

50:38

a good sense of humor For

50:40

in the first place. Yeah

50:42

orange flag. Yes, we

50:44

didn't love it. But again, you know, maybe he didn't know

50:46

Maybe she didn't tell him maybe she didn't tell him. Yeah, we gave him the benefit

50:49

of the doubt Maybe he thinks I'm just using his

50:51

real name on this podcast for millions people to hear. So

50:54

I wrote back. Hi rusty And

50:57

He left me on read and

50:59

that was it no response Let me jump in

51:02

because also this night if you've been following

51:04

along in our lives We were just having so

51:06

much fun like laughing about this I mean, it was like peak

51:09

girls night for this to be happening We're all

51:11

like on the edge of our seats And that is when I was

51:13

like the guy from the plane if you guys

51:15

remember the riot guy that was on the plane That

51:17

is the night that I sent him that ghost emoji Cuz

51:20

I was like, I think I'm just gonna do it like let's keep

51:22

the momentum up Because we were like kind of

51:24

once rusty didn't respond. We're all just sitting there

51:26

like what's that? We and I was like,

51:29

I think

51:29

I'm gonna ghost emoji this guy never

51:32

It was the highest high we ever felt

51:35

and I was just like I've been talking about this thing

51:37

thinking about this guy I'm pretty sure he is the love

51:39

of my life for months and he is finally

51:42

in my phone and he is gonna leave

51:44

me on Red I was like I cannot believe

51:46

is happening and I just was so convinced

51:48

that like I had to go out him and like see this So

51:51

the next day I was driving around and I was just like

51:53

I'm just gonna text him and see you So I was like anyways

51:56

now that we got that out of the way. It's so funny.

51:58

We listen to the podcast. I'm so embarrassed

52:00

And he was like, about what?

52:03

And I was like, oh god, I

52:05

don't care. I don't care what he says, I'm gonna

52:07

see this through. And I'm like, okay,

52:10

anyways, so what's going on? And he was like, do you wanna

52:12

talk on the phone? And I was like, speaking

52:14

my love language, yes, phone calls are my favorite

52:16

thing. So he called me and we had like

52:19

a 45 minute phone call and it was fine.

52:22

Yeah.

52:25

I mean, probably at that

52:28

point, you knew it wasn't a fit. And

52:30

if it wasn't for this whole saga

52:33

and really wanting to see this through, you probably

52:35

wouldn't have gone out with him, right? You probably would have been like,

52:38

this just doesn't feel like we're vibing. Yeah,

52:40

I could sort of see the writing on the wall. Yeah. Totally

52:42

nice, really polite person. Just

52:45

nothing in common with me. You weren't vibing. You

52:47

have a very specific, not so rare, but

52:49

you have a certain type of sense of humor and sarcasm

52:52

and way of joking around and you

52:55

match it or you don't. I had a hard time sparking

52:57

joy in him during that. I'm always

52:59

just like, what's this thing we can get into

53:01

that we're both really into, we can get excited about,

53:03

we can share and laugh. And like, typically

53:06

I try to make that a thing about the other person.

53:09

I can talk about the podcasts and the live shows and the sex

53:11

toy company all day long, but I like

53:13

it. Like Jenny said, there's

53:15

a stream bed that feeds into the shanango and

53:18

then it goes up and then it goes down in.

53:20

And where it goes down in, there's a lot of like

53:23

mounds, like I guess I would call them mounds. And

53:25

there's like these little valleys and it's

53:29

just really super interesting.

53:32

Yeah, I mean, it sounds interesting. When

53:35

I hear you describe it, the thing I'm thinking

53:37

of mentally in my head to picture this

53:39

is like those cartoons where the sound waves

53:41

knock the people over. Like you physically

53:44

feel it.

53:47

Super

53:49

sonic. What

53:52

was really strange about that whole thing is like, Jenny

53:54

and I did not, it

53:56

was like the silent agreement that we made with

53:58

our eyes, like just. get out of here because

54:01

we knew that whatever we were experiencing

54:03

right then and there was not something

54:05

that really

54:08

we wanted to stick around for. Yeah, it was like we

54:10

just didn't know. And

54:12

you know what? I think I carried my beagle the entire

54:14

way out. Yeah, we really did.

54:17

Yeah. I

54:18

can imagine.

54:19

I absolutely can imagine. You

54:22

know, I secretly wish that there

54:24

were still giants roaming around Pennsylvania. I

54:26

guess it's not a secret anymore. But

54:29

I just when I hear the stories of the giants

54:31

and stuff and I heard your story of the

54:33

tree shaking and I just I really

54:35

wish you would have said and then we saw a giant.

54:38

Like that sort of sounds like

54:40

you know, I just I don't know. Like you brought

54:42

the whole giant thing up and stuff. I just I'm

54:45

fascinated by the whole topic of

54:48

giants and the idea that the biblical

54:50

accounts of the Nephilim and all those things. And

54:53

I do believe that you know, North

54:55

America had giants in it and

54:57

they did walk this land at one time. And

54:59

how did they get here and all that stuff? I'm fascinated

55:01

by it. But the

55:04

word giant too is just it's a play

55:06

on words. So it's something larger than a human,

55:08

right? That's what I think.

55:11

I mean, I mean, if you say giant, yeah,

55:14

I would say that. But if you

55:16

were to say Nephilim, well, that's

55:18

a whole different thing then, you know, because the

55:21

biblical account of Nephilim where that's where that

55:23

term comes from, it's

55:25

a description of something that isn't human.

55:28

It's a hybrid between a spiritual being

55:30

of a fallen angel and

55:32

a human being. So similar

55:35

to the jinn.

55:37

What's jinn?

55:38

Jinn, like J-I-N-N.

55:43

It's basically, Jenny can probably describe

55:45

it better. I don't know. I think jinn are

55:47

different than Nephilim

55:49

because that's... Angels are

55:51

different than jinn. I

55:53

don't know a whole lot about it. Somebody said, you

55:56

know, like maybe you experienced jinn or something. I'm like,

55:58

I don't know what that really is, but... It's

56:01

similar to the Nephilim, which

56:03

I don't know. You know, I don't know. Even the Bible,

56:06

those are handed down stories.

56:08

Right.

56:08

You know, I find it

56:11

interesting because there's

56:13

a lot of different stories

56:15

out there throughout different cultures describing

56:18

very similar things that just have different names for them.

56:21

And I'd be very interested to hear about

56:23

Jyn. I haven't really heard much about

56:25

it. But I mean, if you look at even the,

56:29

like Zeus and all the Greek gods

56:31

and things like that and how that all unfolds,

56:33

it's very similar to what the Bible

56:36

talks about and what other cultures

56:38

talk about. And I just find it fascinating that

56:40

I think the more you look into things, the more you see

56:42

that different cultures all over the world have

56:45

very similar experiences. They just call it

56:47

different names. And you know, I

56:50

think over time people have been starting to

56:52

connect the dots. And I haven't

56:54

really heard about Jyn before. I think I

56:56

should look that up. Maybe

56:58

you should talk to my friend Barry, but he's the one

57:00

that like talked to me about it. But

57:03

it sounds to me like it's similar to Nephilim.

57:06

Okay. Yeah.

57:08

Yeah, you should research it. Yeah.

57:10

Absolutely. So I really

57:12

appreciate you guys coming on and just sharing some of your

57:14

experiences and stuff. This was a lot of fun

57:16

for me. This is something that Jamie, I

57:19

told you, I think a while ago that I wouldn't mind

57:21

talking to you on the show. And the

57:23

fact that you were able to have Jenny come on too, that's

57:25

just an added bonus. So you

57:27

guys are great. And I really look forward to hanging

57:29

out with you guys sometime.

57:31

Tony, let's go camping in the alligators. Hey,

57:33

that works for me. Bring your recorder. Okay.

57:36

Yeah, cool.

57:37

Well, it was great talking to you guys.

57:40

And thanks for coming on the show.

57:42

Yeah. Thank you.

57:49

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58:00

friends stay safe take care and remember the

58:02

truth was such a free but first it will piss you

58:04

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58:30

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58:32

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59:20

I'm

59:30

a concerned, I just don't live in a yard Trust me I'm

59:32

waiting my time, living my dream of a guard

59:35

Just like give me the start, just like this No

59:37

but the rush be making that money while I be asleep I

59:39

never waited the money but now all the money been so

59:41

really running to me Ayy, I put the team

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in my bag I'm doing all for the family

59:47

Every one they make a brand Nobody

59:49

ever gonna challenge me Starting

59:51

up we got a Sunday Cause then they

59:54

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get to know somebody a little bit better. You're trying to

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find, you know, do we like the same music,

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TV shows, travel, whatever? I just

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couldn't get there with this person at all. It

1:09:47

was like doom from the start. If a person can't have

1:09:50

a fun, good

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conversation with you, that's a them problem.

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With me? That's what I'm saying. You do

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this for a living. You're really good at it. the

1:10:00

best at it. Like if someone can't

1:10:02

vibe with that this isn't a fit. Yeah I just I

1:10:04

didn't think that anything I said interested him. Yeah. And

1:10:06

he just was perfectly nice and polite

1:10:09

and I honestly loved his accent

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he asked me to talk on the phone. I was like

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okay this could be cool but I was like I'm gonna go

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see him in person cuz he's so hot. So like maybe

1:10:18

it's not a conversational fit

1:10:20

but I'm gonna climb that. So I'm

1:10:22

definitely gonna fucking. Okay.

1:10:27

She did not fucking. We

1:10:33

did go on a date again I did this for you guys

1:10:35

but I was just like let me see this room. Not everybody gives

1:10:37

good phone and not everybody is great

1:10:39

on a first date and it's just like we're in awkward

1:10:41

he's probably like this fucking girl serious she

1:10:44

met me on a Saturday in the middle of the afternoon

1:10:46

and she's been talking about this on the podcast

1:10:48

for a week. She's been spending money to try to meet

1:10:50

me. She's just been like draining

1:10:52

her bank account on art. All right he's probably like

1:10:54

she's a stalker and she's a little bit crazy

1:10:57

you know so I understand his trepidation a little

1:10:59

bit. Yeah. So we did meet up we went

1:11:01

to a bar and it was definitely

1:11:02

the same thing in person like nothing I said

1:11:05

made him latch. And that's pretty rare

1:11:07

for me.

1:11:10

I tried everything I tried pop

1:11:12

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1:11:13

I tried there was a finale of something

1:11:15

that night succession. I tried succession.

1:11:18

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1:11:21

I tried the lowest form of human communication

1:11:23

which is what did you do during quarantine. Oh

1:11:28

yeah what I

1:11:29

forget what show it was when we just went off about this. It's

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like if you were asking someone what they did three years

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1:11:38

to me. Here's the thing I actually like at some

1:11:40

point you do want to know that about somebody like right

1:11:42

I actually do that was such a shared

1:11:45

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1:11:47

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1:11:49

of desperation. I don't want to result

1:11:51

to it because I have to yeah I want that

1:11:53

to like yeah of course that is so funny like

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I'm like, I can't get this guy to be interested in anything

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It wasn't a match. I still love that gallery. I'm

1:12:16

still a big fan of their art. I know they keep mailing letters

1:12:18

to you the other day. Oh my God, they

1:12:20

still text you. And I think he knew it too.

1:12:23

This is really never happened to me before I left

1:12:25

the date and I went home and he did not like text

1:12:27

me to see if I got home okay. He didn't say like

1:12:29

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1:12:45

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and just said like, how was your day? And I just let it die. Yeah.

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1:13:06

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1:13:10

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1:13:21

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1:13:23

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1:13:35

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1:13:37

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1:13:47

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1:13:49

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1:13:51

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1:13:56

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1:14:01

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1:18:03

shawarma spiced chickpeas. I just love a vegan

1:18:05

meal every once in a while. Also spicy

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coconut curry turkey noodle soup.

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You know I love a curry. Their curries are so good. You

1:18:12

know I'm a curry queen. Freaking good. And

1:18:15

curried chickpea burgers. So what's

1:18:17

that one? Spicy coconut curry pork

1:18:19

noodle soup and I've like switched

1:18:21

out the pork for chicken

1:18:23

sausage or whatever. I don't know. I'm

1:18:25

always like mixing it up on

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the protein. Just whatever you do is going

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to be so easy, so fun. It's

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months. Okay. We can just give a quick

1:18:49

update on our trip. We

1:18:52

went to London and Paris and Dublin.

1:18:54

We had a show in London which was incredible. It

1:18:57

was really hot. There was no AC in the venue and there was

1:18:59

a heat wave in London. So I just want to address a thank you

1:19:01

all who came for sweating with us

1:19:03

and powering through. We were sweating our

1:19:05

asses off up there too. They brought a fan up so

1:19:07

I felt like Beyonce for a minute. But regardless,

1:19:10

I'm just saying thank you to the people that came

1:19:12

there because it wasn't the most physically comfortable

1:19:15

show and you know how I am. So

1:19:17

anyway, but we loved it and we had

1:19:19

the best time and that was our first time there and

1:19:21

we just couldn't have loved it anymore. I mean, again, it

1:19:23

could have been cooler, but we really

1:19:25

had such a good time. We met some of you on stage

1:19:28

and I mean, I don't know what else to say besides

1:19:30

it was really so wonderful. It was special. I

1:19:32

had a moment backstage where I was just like, I can't believe we get

1:19:34

to do this in another country

1:19:37

and pack out a theater here and people all over

1:19:39

the world listen to this and so many

1:19:41

people traveled from India,

1:19:44

Germany, just Amsterdam all

1:19:47

over. And it was just, it's an honor

1:19:49

that people would do that and plan their vacations around

1:19:51

us. And it's just really special to be able to do it. So

1:19:53

thank you. And of course, thank you for coming to all the shows, but

1:19:55

to be in the UK was really cool. first

1:19:59

time we've been there. So we had a great time raining and

1:20:01

see about her family coming and stuff, but my cousin who

1:20:03

lives in Amsterdam came So it was so

1:20:05

wonderful to see her I mean she's just been

1:20:08

like you know We've been so close since I

1:20:10

was born and it was so wonderful to

1:20:12

have her there and she was just so emotional I mean

1:20:14

she just hasn't seen a show yet She's my

1:20:16

family that lives in Miami, but she married a Dutch guy

1:20:18

and she lives in Amsterdam now So she was just like I can't

1:20:20

believe this is what you do You know what I mean

1:20:22

like someone who like has known me since a baby

1:20:25

like a kid I don't know. She's the last family member

1:20:27

that I had. Yeah, exactly

1:20:29

She's truly

1:20:29

you've met my entire family like I've ended so

1:20:32

she was on zoom for an athletic.

1:20:34

Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, she could make to the wedding. Yeah, I

1:20:36

hope it's why I haven't seen our I've never met her Yeah,

1:20:39

so that was very special. Yeah, and my dad came

1:20:42

to the UK our number one fangirl my dad Came

1:20:45

to be hit my brother lives in the UK now to him and

1:20:47

his wife. I got to see their home which is really cool they live

1:20:49

in Marla bone which I absolutely

1:20:51

loved and we just loved being in London in

1:20:53

general and Obviously like just typical

1:20:56

Ashley planned the whole trip spent so much

1:20:58

time researching Restaurants to

1:20:59

go to activities and you really did plan it

1:21:02

top to bottom. So that was really special Thank

1:21:04

you for doing that So after we left London we went to

1:21:06

Paris and if you guys are OG fans one of the first

1:21:08

episodes we ever did We went to Paris

1:21:10

together Ashley and I we just we

1:21:12

didn't plan So it's a hard city

1:21:14

to go to when you just like don't know when anything's

1:21:16

open. You haven't made any reservations It's such

1:21:19

a vast city, too So any

1:21:21

city of to plan in but really that was tough having no plans

1:21:23

then well We didn't have any money and we were sharing

1:21:26

a bed And we had some money like,

1:21:28

you know, we weren't like 25

1:21:29

But like we hadn't made money where

1:21:32

it was like we're both gonna stay in a

1:21:34

nice hotel by ourselves Like we

1:21:36

were still like sharing hotel rooms at the point. We like shared

1:21:38

a fucking bed in Paris Like my

1:21:40

suitcase barely fit in that room, you know, I mean fabulous

1:21:43

with the podcast of all sleep Yeah, like

1:21:45

we were right by the bathroom. I mean so

1:21:48

people are like we need a Paris update. Do you love

1:21:50

Paris? It's like yeah Yes,

1:21:52

it's I've come around to Paris. I

1:21:55

really really liked it It's just truly

1:21:57

the most beautiful city. It's so fucking

1:22:00

romantic. Like that was my fourth time

1:22:02

there. The first time being in high school, I took French,

1:22:05

we went there my senior year, it was so unreal.

1:22:07

And then one time I went with Rob and

1:22:09

a big group of my Atlanta friends, and that was so much fun.

1:22:11

And then the third time you and I, which was like my

1:22:14

least favorite time in years too. And

1:22:16

then this was like going back and Rob came with us too.

1:22:18

When we took the Eurostar over from London, it was super

1:22:20

easy and like a great experience. And yeah,

1:22:23

I mean, it was just, it was wonderful. We had

1:22:25

not great weather. It kind of rained our full day

1:22:27

there. But you know, we did some shopping, sat outside

1:22:30

some cafes, had some

1:22:30

really good meals. And I want to go back

1:22:32

there just like with sparkly

1:22:34

eyes. Like I feel like I've done it the other

1:22:36

ways. And like it is so like Paris

1:22:38

is the city you just walk around and feel in

1:22:41

the air like you really, it makes

1:22:43

me want to be there with a partner. I don't feel like

1:22:45

that all the time. You know, like, I

1:22:47

mean, yeah, I miss him all the time. I want to be with him. But that's city

1:22:49

specifically. I'm like next time I come I want it to be

1:22:51

with somebody I'm like in love with. Yeah, I'm all set on friendships

1:22:54

there. Yeah, I'm good. But I'm happy I have a

1:22:56

new relationship

1:22:58

with it because I know that everybody loves it so much. And I've

1:23:00

really shit on it for a lot of years. So it

1:23:02

was nice for me to just develop new memories there. And that

1:23:05

was really fun. And then we went to Dublin,

1:23:08

where it was cold and raining a lot of the time. But

1:23:10

it doesn't matter. Because honestly, you

1:23:12

go to pubs and you drink there. That's the culture. It was so

1:23:15

fun. I'm sure there's other cultural activities. We also took hikes

1:23:17

and a great food. But it really was just like a

1:23:19

nice time going to pubs with you and drinking

1:23:22

listening to live music. And it's a

1:23:24

really small, compact place. So

1:23:26

you can bop around to a lot of different places.

1:23:28

So we like popped in and out of a bunch of pubs

1:23:30

every day. It just was really so fun. The

1:23:32

people are so nice and

1:23:34

fucking hot. Oh my god,

1:23:36

people are so nice. But we did that day trip to health,

1:23:39

which is like 30 minutes in a car, we just like took an

1:23:41

Uber and we did this amazing hike that is truly

1:23:43

like kind of what I pictured Ireland to be like

1:23:45

that gorgeous, you know, on the water. And

1:23:49

that part of it at least. But I loved it so

1:23:51

much after being in London and Paris because London and Paris

1:23:53

are so fucking big and takes so long to

1:23:55

get around. I mean, they're lost like New York and LA

1:23:57

like in terms of just like it's 30 minutes in

1:23:59

a car. here. It's just like Dublin everywhere

1:24:02

that we had on our list to go, we just walked with maybe

1:24:04

like the exception of like one or two places now it's because it was

1:24:06

raining. Like we really probably could have walked everywhere.

1:24:09

Oh, we would. And we had amazing like breakfast

1:24:11

and beer. We did the Guinness storehouse,

1:24:14

the bar at the top, like the highest

1:24:17

point in Dublin and just had a great time.

1:24:19

I would like recommend it to everybody. It's really just

1:24:21

you can make it a shorter trip, you know, two or three

1:24:23

days. You can really see a lot, cover a lot of ground,

1:24:26

do that day trip and call it a day. But

1:24:28

we loved it. We met some fans. And

1:24:30

maybe one day we'll do a show back there because we do have listeners

1:24:32

there, but we didn't squeeze it in this time, which I feel

1:24:34

bad. I wish we did because I bet it's like so fun to do

1:24:37

a show there. So fun. And I really just want to

1:24:39

say you guys send us so many recommendations

1:24:41

and so many long lists of where to go,

1:24:43

where to stay, where to eat. And I'm so honored

1:24:46

that you guys want us to like love where you're from

1:24:48

and the places that you've been. And obviously

1:24:50

Ashley plans all of our trips, but so much of your

1:24:52

recs come from our friends and you guys. So thank you for

1:24:55

doing that. It's really flattering. You want us to like love the

1:24:57

things that you've done. Oh, and I will

1:24:59

say I really do

1:24:59

feel like you bonded with Sparkle

1:25:02

Eyes more while we were gone. We really did.

1:25:05

We did fire off the group chat was really

1:25:07

funny on this trip. And he did

1:25:10

send flowers to we

1:25:12

got to the green room. First of all, he

1:25:14

said Ashley flowers in Ohio when you guys like had

1:25:17

first started dating. And it was

1:25:19

like very cute and sweet. The moment my dad

1:25:21

like watched you

1:25:21

like freak out about it. It was really cute. And we walked

1:25:23

into the green

1:25:25

room in London and it was gorgeous,

1:25:28

like unbelievable bouquet flowers.

1:25:30

And I'm thinking that my family

1:25:33

who is coming to my first ever UK

1:25:35

show has sent me a good luck bouquet

1:25:37

because I thought it was for Ashley. And then

1:25:40

they were like, Oh, no, no, it's for you. And I was like, Oh, of

1:25:42

course it's my family. It literally

1:25:44

a congratulatory bouquet. That

1:25:46

was the most confused. I was like, Oh, those

1:25:48

are prop those. And I go, wouldn't it be so

1:25:51

funny if sparklye sent me flowers? And

1:25:53

it literally says, dear Raina

1:25:56

blah, blah, blah, sparkle eyes. And I

1:25:58

couldn't believe it. I was like, this is a mistake.

1:26:00

They made a mistake. And you're like, your name is on it. It's not a

1:26:03

mistake. And you were supposed to get flowers.

1:26:05

I never got my flowers. So only

1:26:07

I

1:26:08

got flowers in front of my. So,

1:26:11

like, this

1:26:12

was a thorn, no flower pun

1:26:14

intended, of the tree. He was so upset. I

1:26:16

was supposed to get two dozen red roses,

1:26:18

which I've never had two dozen red roses my whole

1:26:20

life. No one's ever gotten me two dozen roses. Like,

1:26:23

I would have loved to get them. And this

1:26:25

place, wherever you ordered them from, like probably

1:26:27

some like flower company that sources from local

1:26:29

florists, whatever the fact. They send them out in two

1:26:31

different deliveries, which is so bizarre. They're going to the same

1:26:34

place. And mine never came. By

1:26:36

the time they were gonna try to get them to my hotel, we were already

1:26:38

leaving. Like, it was just, I never got them. And they refunded

1:26:40

him. But like, only you got your flowers.

1:26:43

You felt so bad. And it was

1:26:45

so hot down there. And I can tell,

1:26:47

like, you didn't know which thing to lean into. Like,

1:26:49

do I sympathize with him? Or do I sympathize

1:26:51

with us? Because it's very hot down here. You were like, which

1:26:54

prom do I dress right now? Yeah. He

1:26:56

was just super bummed. I was just bummed. I told you.

1:26:59

Listen, I'm a very high functioning person. I can figure it out. But

1:27:01

like, I don't know how to send flowers that

1:27:03

like make it to a green room. Like, they have

1:27:05

to like get to a box office and

1:27:08

come downstairs. I don't know how to do that. And those looked like $200 flowers.

1:27:11

Yeah, he really, he is the

1:27:13

most awful person ever. I

1:27:16

look forward to him doing that for me more often. He's,

1:27:20

I mean, as we record, he's coming here this weekend.

1:27:23

And he's the first time in LA for like a full, full

1:27:25

weekend. He's only been in LA twice, like one night,

1:27:27

both times. And so have a whole

1:27:29

full itinerary plan. I haven't seen him. It'll

1:27:32

be a month and it's just been so difficult.

1:27:34

I mean, we like. I'm trying to laugh at you doing

1:27:36

that. I just. Wow.

1:27:39

What are you, what are you

1:27:42

laughing at? I was thinking about your itinerary with

1:27:44

him and I was gonna say something and you go, it's been

1:27:46

really difficult. And I just burst out

1:27:48

laughing. I

1:27:52

mean, listen, like it's fine,

1:27:54

but I mean, we FaceTimed every night and when I

1:27:56

was gone, like it's just been, it sucks.

1:28:00

I mean, hot take. It's

1:28:02

the worst. It's like three weeks I started

1:28:04

to get a little crazy. I'm like this and we still have one

1:28:06

more week. Like what were you gonna laugh at? You

1:28:08

got listen you want to get your head straight because that's how you

1:28:10

accidentally move in with people

1:28:11

and then you break up.

1:28:16

You're like I miss them so much maybe I should let them live with

1:28:18

me. I was laughing because I'm gonna see you guys on Saturday.

1:28:21

You're gonna come over for a little bit. But then you

1:28:23

told me it's a Sunday I go to the Brentwood farmers market

1:28:25

every Sunday. It's my Sunday special plan. And

1:28:27

I was thinking like should I coordinate

1:28:30

with you guys or should I just like. Should I. I

1:28:36

was thinking like maybe I won't tell you at all

1:28:38

and I'm just gonna like blow in and out really quick. You

1:28:41

know I like to take that spot right in the front. There's

1:28:44

a parking spot. I do park in a red spot

1:28:46

but you've been doing it. The reddest spot. I park

1:28:48

in a red spot and I run in really quick as fast as

1:28:50

possible. So I was wondering if I should tell you I was gonna

1:28:52

be there and coordinate with you or coordinate to not

1:28:54

be there with you. I am dying laughing thinking

1:28:56

about running into you at the farmers market.

1:28:59

So like should

1:29:00

we coordinate times or. I feel

1:29:02

like you guys.

1:29:02

You go. Whenever I'm done working out

1:29:04

or I get up like 10 30. Okay we coordinate.

1:29:07

Like you don't have to see me there if you want to have your

1:29:09

own solo experience like to tall

1:29:11

people at the tall. Oh

1:29:13

yeah that's the tall farmers market we're gonna fit

1:29:16

right in. We'll be short there. Yeah not

1:29:18

him. You'll be a little midget. The guys there

1:29:20

are like six seven monsters. Yeah.

1:29:22

So we'll let you know next week

1:29:23

if I ended up going with them.

1:29:25

Like take your kid to the farmers market. So embarrassing.

1:29:29

Okay and last thing that

1:29:31

happened this was on the way back. We

1:29:33

had a delay on our layover

1:29:36

in JFK and we were sitting there next

1:29:38

to Angela Bassett. I was like actually I think

1:29:40

that's who that is. You were like there's no way she would just be sitting

1:29:42

here. Yeah Angela was on our flight.

1:29:44

She sat in front of me. But

1:29:46

we'd been in the lounge and we went back to the flight game

1:29:49

blades like we're at the gate so we were like sitting at

1:29:51

the Jamba Juice. Angela Bassett

1:29:53

sitting there.

1:29:53

She's like. I dropped the juice.

1:29:55

I dropped the juice. So when she's. Ashley

1:29:58

is going to be like.

1:29:59

And I could see over her shoulder.

1:30:02

I could see her phone and she was just like scrolling

1:30:05

through reels But she was on a fin stud.

1:30:07

Yeah, it was a fin stud, but you were like And

1:30:10

I was like and then we're just gonna what sit at the Jamba

1:30:12

juice They had the

1:30:14

Jamba juice the angel basset When

1:30:17

Angela Bassett was in the Skyles Club when

1:30:19

we went back to the Sky Club after we realized we were

1:30:21

even more delayed

1:30:22

She was in like a roped off area.

1:30:24

What's it called? What are those? anxious

1:30:27

anxious The

1:30:30

intention

1:30:33

Also you guys this

1:30:35

is a crazy story so we're at the gate every 30

1:30:38

minutes They told it to be another 30 minutes And

1:30:40

so they finally like get on the loudspeaker

1:30:43

and start talking about the mics not on and

1:30:45

so Everybody's like the mics not working on maybe

1:30:47

you get to tell them and out of nowhere Swooping

1:30:50

out of the crowd was one of the cast

1:30:52

members from SNL Oh and yang

1:30:54

to tell them your mics going. Yeah,

1:30:56

god damn it right when I say you say oh,

1:30:59

what's it? Oh, yeah, oh, it's Bowen.

1:31:01

That's why I meant also you didn't even recognize

1:31:03

him bitch No, I did not the mic is off

1:31:06

and I'm like the mics not hot Be

1:31:08

like his mic is off and then I'm like who's gonna tell

1:31:10

him and literally Bowen Yang comes up But

1:31:12

I was like there's a guy from SNL that's telling

1:31:14

him and you were like what I was like that guy's an S It

1:31:17

out he's I was on the hell or mike is off when

1:31:19

Ashley was like that's who that was Lost

1:31:21

my mind like I got on the flight Angela

1:31:24

Bassett is right there then Bowen Yang is right

1:31:26

there I swear I saw tanks, but I'm unclear tanks

1:31:28

if you're listening if anybody knows that she traveled I

1:31:30

think I saw her at the baggage claim that flight

1:31:32

from New York to LAX

1:31:35

that Delta flight and then Delta one. I've

1:31:37

never not seen someone who we saw a Bridget Everett once

1:31:40

There's always somebody I feel like I recognize. There's

1:31:43

that couple that was hooking up I You

1:31:47

guys there was a couple are the story I want

1:31:49

to tell that go off this couple was like

1:31:51

hooking up Right at the gate check-in

1:31:54

and like I thought they were saying goodbye to each other

1:31:56

because it was so intense for

1:31:59

so long staring at each

1:32:01

other. I'm talking like right before the plane boards

1:32:03

where there's 200 people standing there right

1:32:05

in the board. Right in the middle at the front.

1:32:07

Yes. Making out, holding

1:32:09

each other, staring at each other's eyes. Rubbing each other's

1:32:12

eyes. This goes on 30 minutes? It was unreal. And

1:32:14

then they got on the flight together. I

1:32:16

was like, they're saying goodbye, they must be.

1:32:19

I've had to say goodbye at an airport recently, I know

1:32:21

how it is, but also I'm off to the back. I'm

1:32:23

also not making out like that. But if they

1:32:26

were doing that in a more obscure place, I would

1:32:28

understand. I know how it is, you

1:32:30

know how it is. Anywhere besides that. They

1:32:33

were basically in front of the, like you said,

1:32:35

the counter, just going at it.

1:32:37

It was unreal. What kind of non-self-control

1:32:39

do you have? And then they got on the flight together.

1:32:42

Crazy. I couldn't even believe it. You couldn't have

1:32:44

figured each other anywhere else. You needed an audience, unreal.

1:32:46

But anyway, what I was saying, while

1:32:48

we were at John Majoose with Angela Bassett,

1:32:51

Reina is like, I could use a smoothie. And

1:32:54

so she goes up and...

1:32:56

I don't see what she'd say. I'm sitting there, whatever,

1:32:58

and I hear them go, Ashley,

1:32:59

order

1:33:00

for Ashley.

1:33:02

And I was like, did I order something?

1:33:04

If I'm having a stroke, I literally thought I ordered something.

1:33:07

It was you.

1:33:12

You have

1:33:13

been using my name.

1:33:15

You've been impersonating

1:33:17

me at Fast Casual. Do

1:33:21

it, it's so much. This is so much crazy.

1:33:29

You have to explain. This

1:33:34

is my secret. I've

1:33:37

kept it from you for years.

1:33:41

I didn't think you'd

1:33:44

ever find out.

1:33:45

I'm like, Angela, are you hearing me? I

1:33:49

just, let's say, Reina's a hard name to pronounce.

1:33:51

It makes me feel weird and nervous

1:33:53

if people aren't even gonna say it when they're yelling it across

1:33:56

the room. So I'm like, what is the easiest

1:33:58

name on Earth to say?

1:33:59

Ashley. Oh my god. No one's gonna misinterpret

1:34:02

what that name is or how to spell it. I get

1:34:04

Ryan and Rania and Renee. Like

1:34:07

people just like it's so demoralizing.

1:34:10

And so for years, I've been saying Ashley.

1:34:15

Whether you're with me or not. Do

1:34:18

you think? I've been hearing it for the first

1:34:20

time. I mean the odds that somebody

1:34:22

who's like a fan of the show has like rung me

1:34:24

up and I've been like you could put it under

1:34:27

Ashley. Yeah they're like Rania wants

1:34:28

to be Ashley so bad.

1:34:32

Rania also like I want

1:34:34

to go back and watch it in slow-mo because I hear

1:34:36

my name and I'm like oh that's weird. And then

1:34:38

as you move towards the

1:34:41

counter to

1:34:41

get the smoothie I was like.

1:34:51

You were never supposed

1:34:53

to hear that. You know what you should have

1:34:55

done. What? Angela.

1:34:57

Because at that point we were unsure if

1:35:00

it was Angela. You should have said Angela Bassett.

1:35:04

Bassett or Greenberg? Bassett?

1:35:07

Bassett? Oh my gosh.

1:35:09

So funny the way you laughed at this the whole way down

1:35:11

the Jeopardy. I couldn't believe what I

1:35:14

was seeing. When you grabbed that smoothie

1:35:16

I was like what? I've done this for years.

1:35:19

Oh my god. This is like when I found

1:35:21

out you

1:35:21

had Napster or Rhapsody.

1:35:25

I know I do have a secret life. Okay

1:35:28

so we are talking about the app today.

1:35:30

Rania got a wild hair and just

1:35:33

got on Hinge. Well

1:35:37

I just happened. So I want to say up top

1:35:39

if you've been following along with the podcast I have been talking about going

1:35:42

on dates with somebody and we are cool but that's not

1:35:44

my boyfriend. So yeah I am well within

1:35:46

my right so is he to go on a dating app. And I

1:35:48

thought as a fun little exercise while we were away.

1:35:50

I mean we were away for 10 or 11

1:35:52

nights together and I thought it would

1:35:54

be really fun and Dublin because you and I

1:35:56

were just solo to pick a day or two

1:35:58

and like update my.

1:35:59

dating apps and the photos,

1:36:02

the prompts, everything, and start messaging people.

1:36:04

And I think that, I get really bogged

1:36:06

down at the thought of messaging people on dating apps

1:36:08

sometimes and having to respond.

1:36:11

It feels like such a job, but when you have

1:36:13

a drink with a friend and do it, it becomes

1:36:15

this really fun, silly, light,

1:36:18

easy thing. And your friends can also,

1:36:20

first of all, not a hot take, but look at your profile

1:36:22

and be like, that's a little too much, or that's a little

1:36:25

too sexual, or too neggy or

1:36:27

anything. I just like to have somebody else look at it and

1:36:29

say, this is what I see in this. And then

1:36:31

it's just fun to do together, to just

1:36:33

look at other people's profiles, make fun of them, listen to the

1:36:35

voice prompts, and message people, take a funny things to

1:36:37

do. So it's just a funny activity with your

1:36:39

girlfriend. It is so funny, yes. And sometimes it's

1:36:42

better to have the extra set of eyes. You had a

1:36:44

full, mere selfie bikini

1:36:46

pic. I was like, no. I just was like, let's

1:36:49

do a bathing suit pic, but let's pick

1:36:51

another one that's not so full frontal.

1:36:54

I hate to use the word thirsty, but I think

1:36:56

it's sending a certain message. And

1:36:58

I say that as like, I don't really wanna see a guy

1:37:00

do that. You know what I mean? When it's just like too much

1:37:03

body, or like naked body.

1:37:05

Well, I think there's like such a science to it. Logan

1:37:07

Urie, who was on the show, she says like

1:37:10

not too many pictures of yourself drinking. Try

1:37:12

to limit the amount of alcohol photos,

1:37:14

photos with friends, maybe you wanna do one,

1:37:16

but I mean, whatever. It's light, it's fun, it's easy.

1:37:19

There is a bit of a science to it. I definitely do get

1:37:21

a certain vibe about people

1:37:23

via their photos, of course. So we switched

1:37:25

it up to a different bikini photo. Yeah, it was just

1:37:28

like farther away, a little more artsy.

1:37:30

Like it was in Cabo, so it was like something to comment

1:37:32

on, like where you were traveling at the time,

1:37:34

things like that. So you messaged a

1:37:36

bunch of people, and that's also a fun thing to do.

1:37:39

Like you just get that extra little

1:37:41

bit of encouragement from your friend, as opposed to like sitting

1:37:43

alone in your home being like, should I message, should I not? Should

1:37:45

I speak first? All this stuff, like who cares? So

1:37:48

that was fun. And yeah, you're right.

1:37:51

It is such a fun thing to do. Have a little glass

1:37:53

of water with a friend

1:37:53

and you know, bounce things off of that. Yeah,

1:37:55

I loved it. I think it's just fun to like laugh

1:37:58

at people's profiles or be like that guy's. hot,

1:38:00

just have fun. And also, I don't

1:38:02

like to go grocery shopping when I'm hungry. So sometimes

1:38:06

I can feel like beyond these apps is really

1:38:08

overwhelming. But I've been getting

1:38:11

digged down recently. So I'm not as hungry and

1:38:13

I can be a little more selective. Okay, which is

1:38:15

nice. I love that. But I do like when you get in there,

1:38:17

you can cast such a wide net, say yes on

1:38:19

a lot of people and then narrow it down

1:38:22

for who you're gonna like message with back and forth.

1:38:24

And one thing I was saying to you is if you

1:38:27

put yourself out there and take the

1:38:29

leap to message someone like to say

1:38:31

a thing like, you know, unhinged to respond

1:38:33

to one of their prompts, and they don't get back to you right away.

1:38:36

I just want you all to keep in mind that so many people

1:38:38

are not on these apps every day, they don't have their

1:38:40

push notifications set up. Like, I feel like we

1:38:42

saw someone this feels very LA.

1:38:44

Someone was like, I only checked this once a week.

1:38:47

You know, I'm protecting my energy, you know, but that

1:38:49

could be someone's story. Like someone could be so sporadic

1:38:51

with it. Like, don't get upset or feel rejected

1:38:53

if you've sent a bunch of messages and haven't gotten responses. I

1:38:56

mean, yeah, those people could have seen it, they could leave you on read.

1:38:58

But some of it is just like, people are

1:39:00

busy, it might not be their top priority

1:39:02

to be like, in hinge, reading messages

1:39:04

responding. So

1:39:06

I just think finding dates on this can be like a full time

1:39:08

job. You know, like my friends that are like, I

1:39:10

had a girlfriend to me the other day, she's in a relationship now, but she

1:39:13

was like, right now I went on like 100 birthdays.

1:39:15

Yeah. And I like when I first moved here, but that is a full

1:39:18

time job doing that, you know, and you have to like, really

1:39:20

swipe out a lot of people and really message a lot of people.

1:39:23

And it's not just like you get in there and it's just

1:39:25

like, embarrassment of riches.

1:39:28

Yeah, yeah, I think that's good to keep in mind too.

1:39:30

I just feel I feel like I'm in a place

1:39:32

to do it. Like I said, like I'm not

1:39:34

starving for attention. I feel like I'm

1:39:36

in a place where I can just like, be a little

1:39:38

more picky. But I've been dating

1:39:40

more recently. And I've been like with more

1:39:43

guys recently. And I feel like it's

1:39:46

just lighter. I'm not like desperate for it. But

1:39:48

I'm just like, I'm in the game. I'm in the

1:39:50

mood. I'm like vibing with dating right now.

1:39:52

And so it makes me want to do it more. Yeah,

1:39:55

but it's not like, these aren't desperate

1:39:57

times. So I'm not gonna say yes to everybody. But like,

1:40:00

hit my stride, I can do this and it feels light

1:40:02

and easy. I think some people are in these apps

1:40:04

and they're just like, I hate doing this, then don't do it. Then

1:40:07

don't do it if you're in a place in your life where you don't want to do it, but I'm

1:40:09

in a place where I'm like, I could get in there and do

1:40:11

some of this. And because I've been dating

1:40:13

a little bit more, it feels like less of a rejection

1:40:16

when somebody doesn't respond to you, because you're like, other

1:40:18

people are responding to me. Yeah. I

1:40:20

mean, if you're sitting there on an app

1:40:23

and liking people and

1:40:25

feeling so fatigued and like, I hate this,

1:40:28

that is the energy that's coming through. I know that someone can't

1:40:30

read your mind behind your phone screen, but

1:40:33

that's the energy that's surrounding you. So it is

1:40:36

more beneficial to be in a better head space around

1:40:38

it. And we had this girlfriend who, she

1:40:41

went on this trip to Europe and

1:40:43

she just was

1:40:45

kind of feeling herself on the trip and she met this guy

1:40:47

who was just basically a total degenerate,

1:40:49

but he was just totally obsessed with her, like

1:40:51

love bombing her.

1:40:52

She was like, this is not my guy, but just

1:40:55

a crazy person, a crazy love bomber,

1:40:57

wild party guy. And she knew

1:41:00

from moment one that that was not somebody

1:41:02

that was any sort of real match, but his level

1:41:04

of just being so obsessed with her. And honestly, just

1:41:06

like a love bombing the shit out of her and being like, I've

1:41:08

been loving you since the first moment I met you, she

1:41:10

could probably tell the story a lot better. But it just

1:41:12

kind of gave her a confidence boost. And she

1:41:15

said the funniest thing on our group chat, she was like, I've

1:41:18

opened a portal. It unlocks

1:41:20

something in her that maybe she needed that sort

1:41:22

of confidence

1:41:22

boost at the time, whatever it was. Maybe she'd been

1:41:24

in a little bit of a rut and she

1:41:26

just got in the apps with an energy of

1:41:29

like, I'm so hot, this guy can't get enough of me. I'm gonna be on

1:41:31

these apps and see what's out there. And

1:41:34

she met this guy and now

1:41:36

they're dating and we met him and

1:41:39

we are obsessed with him. They

1:41:41

have been spending every weekend

1:41:43

together. And I mean, who knows what will happen, but

1:41:45

it seems like a great fit for her. And again, we met

1:41:48

him and he is super into her,

1:41:50

it seems. And they just are really having

1:41:52

a nice, easy, healthy start of

1:41:55

a relationship. And she credits

1:41:58

that like confidence boost. from this crazy

1:42:01

person on this crazy trip with kind of making

1:42:03

her be more motivated. And I think

1:42:05

she FaceTimed with this guy that she met on Hinge

1:42:08

pretty early on. And I don't know if I

1:42:10

said they met on Hinge, but it was on Hinge and now

1:42:12

they're fully dating and she was like, in

1:42:14

that right head space. That's what I was

1:42:16

getting at. I feel confident. I feel like I've

1:42:18

got it going on. It's lighter, it's easier

1:42:21

for me. I'm not in a negative head space

1:42:23

about dating. I think that's what a lot of people get on