Andy begs pastors to find a band of brothers. Sure, he enjoys “talking church” and even theology (to learn, even with leaders who see things differently), but— even better than those conversations is the talks where you can be yourself. 

Where you can connect.

Where you know you’re not alone.

Where you can cry and laugh at the same time.

“Most pastors are uptight,” Andy says. “They don’t feel safe. They carry the weight of so much…”

Furthermore, “The only people who know pastors ARE pastors… “

In truth, you can’t lead well if you can’t laugh well. Find a place where you can laugh.