On this episode I had the chance to speak with Brandan "BMike" Odums, a visual artist from New Orleans who runs Studio Be and whose work has appeared in shows like "Queen Sugar," and featured in BuzzFeed, Fast Company, & more. Also on deck is musician and political operative Jam Decre, who recently managed the data on Andrew Gillum's campaign, one of the most-watched gubernatorial races in the country. We talked about the hard part of having your art as your career, sexy numbers, & the importance of snacks.