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Ever been confronted with an inconsistent
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or confusing prospect, but not
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sure exactly how to react. Kenan
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has four of his favorite words
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in his book gap selling that
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will help you get into a tough conversation
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that's so needed.
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[inaudible]
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welcome to the bite size sales podcast
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where we believe that sales is
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the most important team and a B2B company,
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that the sales team deserves great sales
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skills training but usually doesn't get
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it and that taking bite-size
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steps each day to get better at your craft
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is the best way to improve results.
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I am your host, Andrew Monahan , and I'm using
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my experiences in B2B sales
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to bring you simple actionable ideas
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every day to help you get better
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[inaudible] .
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One of the common problems I hear from
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sellers but also from managers
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and leaders is around
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the pace of deals
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or probably more accurately the lack
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of pace of deal. Deal momentum
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is being a challenge with
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almost every company I've worked with over the
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last few years and also when I was running sales teams
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as well. You know, I, I don't
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even thinking back, I don't think I know
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any team that's selling
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deals of any real significant size
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who claimed to be really happy with their speed
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of the deal cycle, the sales cycle,
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you know, they just don't seem to go as fast
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as we want to. There's always things
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that seem to slow them down and it
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causes problems. It causes problems with
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forecasting, it causes problems with delivering
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on our promises. It causes
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problems with our own goals, things like that.
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There's lots of downstream impacts
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about slow deals. So
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anything that we can do to
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speed things up or just
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try and improve things a little bit can
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have a big difference in terms of our results.
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And there's lots of reasons why deals
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are slow and it's going to vary a little bit
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from organization to organization
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and prospect prospect about
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what the root cause is. But also
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there's some common things that happen again and
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again. In fact, the challenger customer
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, uh , the book that came out and the research that
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was done , um, after
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, uh, the challenger sale , um,
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talks about this, it talks about the,
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the, the big problem in the selling
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world where we're trying to get one
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person to get a whole bunch of people
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on board with the change that has to happen.
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And this is where a deal is dies, where a deal
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is slow down . It's a , it's a big step.
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You know, when I think about when I talk to people
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these days , uh, one
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of the challenges people do come up with a lot
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is they sense confusion
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and in consistencies
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with what the says,
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right? It might be just that the prospect
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not entirely sure themselves about
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all the different things are going on. And when they speak
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to us, they, they say things that they're
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not entirely sure about and they seem to contradict each
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other and things like that. But also there's an inconsistency
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is right. They might be telling us things that we want to
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hear and they say that in the meeting,
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but then go and do something differently
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afterwards. Or maybe when they let
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their guard down a little bit and
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uh, you know, the inconsistency is come home to roost
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a little bit and you can sit there and go, well that's weird
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because half an hour ago they said something completely
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different. So these things do
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come up in the course of conversations, but
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it can be challenging to call it out
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, right? We feel often that this is a , a
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tough conversation if you're
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early in your relationship . So this is a conversation,
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the first call and the discovery call,
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a second call, you know, it can feel
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a little bit challenging to say, you know, this
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is not right. There's something going on here. I'm , you know,
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you're not saying something that seems to be consistent.
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So, but this is not something that we could
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ignore. We can't just let it go by
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because that's where, you know , we'll
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get affected downstream . Right? Further
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down the sales cycle when there is that lack of clarity
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that will come home to roost and
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deals, you know, slow down and fall
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apart and you know, visions
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become less clear. But what's supposed to happen?
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So taking control of
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this situation earlier rather
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than later is at least going to help
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avoid some of those slowdowns
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that might come from these ins consistencies.
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So they might avoid some of the misunderstandings
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that we might have about what's important and not important
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to prospects. So how do you have
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that conversation? What's the way to get
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into that? And in his
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book gap selling, Keenan actually
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addresses this. He has it under
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a section that he as she calls
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my four favorite words. So
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let me read directly from the book. There's
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a reason I suggested you challenge
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your buyers starting with the words.
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I'm confused. You said
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those four words in that order
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are four of my favorites. They are powerful.
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I love using them to challenge buyers
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and prospects, which is exactly
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what you need to do when you spot inconsistencies
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between what buyers say they want
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in their future state and the methods,
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approaches and decision criteria that they're using
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to get there. Your ability to identify,
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call out or resolve these
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inconsistencies is a measure
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of the added value you bring as
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a salesperson. You need to get good
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at it. It's not always easy.
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Challenging your customers without tact.
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Diplomacy or grace can
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make them feel incompetent and attentive
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or insecure, which is not conducive
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to the collaborative, enthusiastic mindset
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you want your customer to have when you're
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gap selling. No one likes to
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be called out for their mistakes, but sometimes
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you have to do it. A doctor would never
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continue ineffective treatments just
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because letting patients know it
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wasn't working would be embarrassing.
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Seeing applies hears by
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prefacing your challenge with, I'm
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confused. You said you
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give buyers away to save face.
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Those two words suggest you're
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inviting discussion, not
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indicting them or attacking them for being wrong.
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I'm confused or maybe
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I was under the impression or I
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thought allows for the possibility
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that the mistake is yours. This
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gives you leeway to encourage introspection
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instead of defensiveness and
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to engage in a discussion rather
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than a debate. Learning to identify
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inconsistencies between what buyers say
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they want and the decisions that they
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make is critical to gap selling
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and moving deals forward. Starting
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with, I'm confused. You
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said before, listen , the inconsistencies
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or discrepancies you find confusing
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is one of the best ways to disarm your
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prospect. Invite a discussion
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and resolve problems before they start.
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So that's right from the book. And to
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me this is a super simple
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way to softly get
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into what can be quite a tough conversation.
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You know, one of the things that , uh, I think
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it says in there if people might get defensive or
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they might even get angry with you
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for calling if they feel like you're calling
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them at , right? So how you go about
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this has to be done carefully.
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And what I like about it as well is it puts
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the idea on the table that
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the weakness , uh , the thing that's
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missing might be on you, not
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on them. Even
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though in reality the way is happening
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is you're essentially calling them up , but , but
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doing in a very polite and very positive
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way. And it does
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get you into a much needed
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and important conversation, especially
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if this is early on in the sales cycle where you don't
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want, you know , you're to pass to the verge
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, then can, you're on the same page as them. So
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the question is, you know, how do you, how
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do you use this? How do you make it a habit? We
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can use our habit forming
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formula , um,
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which goes, you know, when you hear
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in consistencies or confusion
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for the customer is saying, instead
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of avoiding a conversation or instead of
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avoiding having the
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discussion and asking them questions, I
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will say I'm confused
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you said, and then lead that
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into a discussion that needs to be had.
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So make sure you take action on what
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[inaudible] .
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