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Hello? And welcome to Daily Beans

0:58

for Thursday, January twenty six, twenty twenty

1:00

three. Today, the Department of Justice

1:02

will not make the two classified

1:05

documents found at Storage facility in West

1:07

Palm Beach, part of its criminal investigation

1:09

into Donald Trump. The National Archives

1:12

is weighing asking past presidents and

1:14

vice presidents to look for classified documents

1:16

in their homes and offices. Lawyers

1:18

for the Washington Post are deposing ex

1:20

Devon Nunez aides in a libel

1:22

suit and Facebook and Instagram

1:24

are letting Donald Trump back on their

1:26

platforms. I'm Alison Gil, and I'm Dana

1:28

Goldberg. Hi

1:32

Dana.

1:33

Hi, Jane. Now we have switched. You are

1:35

in New York, and I'm in Los Angeles.

1:38

Yes. So if you hear sirens or an echo

1:40

y room, it is because I am on the

1:42

road. So my apologies. I'm not

1:44

in studio, but been traveling

1:46

all day, but not going to fail

1:48

to bring you the

1:49

news. There's a lot of today. How how how

1:51

was your day? Day was wonderful. Had another great

1:53

day with mom. The weather's gorgeous

1:55

in Southern California. We got to

1:57

put our feet in the sand and

2:00

just had a nice walk with some friends. So

2:02

she's lovely. My mother's a mention

2:04

if you're at all familiar with

2:06

the the Jewish tradition

2:08

and vernacular. You will

2:10

know that that just means she's a really wonderful woman.

2:12

So I'm grateful she's here and have time together.

2:15

That's awesome. I noticed in your text messages

2:17

you referred to her as the Madre. I call my mom

2:19

Madre. Yeah. I call her mom MUM

2:21

sometimes because I

2:23

did a a month stint at the French

2:26

Festival in Scotland in two thousand

2:28

three, and so I started signing my

2:31

my emails oh, I started

2:33

dear mom, and then she would sign

2:35

her love mom, and then what that

2:37

was two thousand three. So twenty

2:39

years later, I still call her mom.

2:43

I I love Edinburgh French. That is

2:45

such a fun

2:45

festival. I need to go back. Oh, it was

2:47

the best. Yeah. Same. It was an

2:49

incredible experience. Alright. Well,

2:52

friend, we have a lot of news. There's some important

2:54

news today that's kind of flying under the radar. So

2:56

let's to it. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot

2:58

notes. Alright.

3:01

First up from Hugo Lowell at the Guardian,

3:03

and I consider this to be an

3:06

extremely important piece of

3:08

news. It's flying under the radar like I said,

3:10

but this to me is the

3:12

lead story today, two documents that

3:14

Donald Trump's legal team returned to the justice

3:16

department last year after retrieving

3:18

them from a private storage unit in Florida

3:20

as part of an additional search for materials.

3:23

Were marked classified at the

3:25

secret level according to sources familiar

3:27

with the matter. The materials included

3:29

one document marked as secret on the cover

3:31

page and a second document marked

3:33

as secret with its classified attachment

3:36

removed according to one of the sources.

3:39

And what's interesting to me

3:41

Dana is this you know, how they

3:43

found a bunch of empty folders. Yeah.

3:45

In Donald Trump, I wonder if he thinks that by

3:47

removing them from the folders, that

3:50

that's declassifies them. Like,

3:55

can do you imagine It

3:58

doesn't say it anymore. It doesn't say classified.

4:00

I I took the photos as cool, keepsakes,

4:03

and so that means the documents

4:05

inside aren't classified. We'll see. But

4:07

Trump's lawyers told the department that

4:10

was an indication that the document

4:12

is no longer classified. So, Interesting

4:17

concept. The two documents were found

4:19

inside sealed boxes that appeared to have

4:21

been unopened, from when they were

4:23

shipped down to the storage unit in Florida

4:25

near Trump's Mar a Lago resort from the White

4:27

House at the end of the Trump administration. This

4:29

is what the lawyers told the justice department.

4:32

Since the two documents were returned as

4:34

soon as the lawyers were informed of the

4:36

discovery, The Department of Justice

4:38

is not expected to include them

4:40

as part of their wider criminal investigation

4:42

into Trump's retention of national security

4:44

information and obstruction of justice.

4:47

Let me repeat that. Because

4:49

the documents were returned as soon as they

4:51

were found, the DOJ is not

4:53

going to include them as part of their

4:55

criminal probe. I had

4:57

previously said those two documents likely

4:59

didn't implicate Donald in a crime because

5:01

he probably didn't know they were there.

5:03

Which means Biden and Pence will likely

5:05

not be charged with crimes either.

5:08

You remember, Dana, when I said,

5:10

That's why the non classified material

5:12

in the Trump documents case was so important.

5:15

That's why they went back to get all that stuff back from

5:17

the special master. Those non

5:19

classified documents found with the

5:21

classified documents proves they

5:23

prove Trump had active possession.

5:25

And knowledge of the classified material

5:27

that he failed to return pursuant to

5:29

that May twenty twenty subpoena. Classified

5:32

documents were found in his desk commingled

5:34

with non classified documents. Those

5:37

non classified documents were dated

5:39

after Donald left office. That is evidence.

5:41

That Donald possessed the classified

5:44

documents and willfully held them, which is

5:46

against the law. Of course, Redwing

5:48

trolls dragged me on Twitter for saying such foolish

5:50

things. But the fact remains, Donald

5:52

broke the law and Biden and Pence

5:54

did not, and these two documents

5:57

found in that storage shed

5:59

will not

5:59

be. Criminally investigated.

6:01

Thank you so much for that. Okay.

6:04

This is from Jacqueline Alimini, and

6:06

this she's at the post. The national

6:08

archives, well, it's weighing whether to ask

6:10

living former presidents and vice presidents

6:12

at this point to review their personal records

6:14

to verify that no classified materials

6:16

have been inadvertently outstanding, and

6:18

that's according to two people familiar with the

6:20

discussions who spoke on the condition of anonymity

6:22

to detail private conversations.

6:26

Now, the deliberation comes after the

6:28

discovery and return of a limited

6:30

number of records bearing classified markings in

6:32

recent weeks at president Biden's

6:34

home and the think tank bearing his

6:36

name as well as the home of the former vice

6:38

president Mike Pence. Now, more

6:40

than a hundred classified documents Also

6:42

were found by the FBI last year when

6:44

they searched. The former guys plays

6:46

at Mar a Lago, and that's capping

6:48

a a nearly year long quest to

6:50

retrieve documents from Trump,

6:53

a year long quest.

6:55

Now the search came after more than two hundred classified

6:57

documents found at Mar a Lago had been turned over

6:59

to the archives in the justice

7:01

department. Do you think we could turn do you

7:03

think we could turn that into a video game?

7:05

The quest for the documents and, like, you

7:07

work it in the national archives and then the

7:09

final boss is Trump at Mar a

7:11

Lago and

7:11

it's, like, all

7:13

in, like, sixteen bit and you have to, like, get

7:16

the classified documents. Well, I yeah.

7:18

I feel like at this point we could have little characters

7:20

being like who you wanna be and then you just go

7:22

around searching for classified documents and see if you

7:24

can find

7:25

them. Like, an all kind of thing. You

7:28

you find one in his desk and you hold it up in

7:30

the air and it's like, did, did, did, did,

7:31

did, and they, you know, like,

7:33

got a closet. Natural. You

7:36

keep going. Keep going.

7:39

That's a menu for McDonald's. Okay.

7:41

The national archives, they did not

7:44

comment, they declined to do so.

7:46

And the list of former presidents and

7:48

vice presidents could include former presidents,

7:50

Barack Obama, George W.

7:52

Bush, Clinton Carter, and

7:54

former vice president, Dick Cheney, Al Gore,

7:56

Dan Quail. Dan Quail

7:58

is, like, how do you spell classified document?

8:01

An adviser to Obama's office who

8:03

spoke on the condition of anonymity because they

8:05

are not authorized to speak on the record.

8:07

Told the Washington Post on Tuesday

8:09

that all classified records from his time in the

8:11

White House had been submitted to the National Archives

8:13

upon his leaving office and that the agency

8:15

continues to assume physical and legal

8:17

custody of Obama's materials. I

8:19

feel like Michelle Obama would have been like, you

8:21

need to leave all this shit here. I don't want it near

8:23

the house. I don't want it to be an accident. I

8:25

don't wanna remember any of this. We are leaving

8:28

Politics. Now, the recent

8:30

discoveries underscore the limitations of the

8:32

Presidential Records Act, which governs

8:34

how documents are former presidents and vice presidents

8:37

are handled. And under the act,

8:39

the archives takes ownership of millions

8:41

of presidential papers from the outgoing

8:43

president as soon as a new president is sworn

8:45

in. While items deemed personal, go

8:47

home with the former president. Classified

8:49

materials are all considered government

8:51

property, but compliance can be

8:53

an issue because of the massive volume

8:55

of materials. When Biden

8:57

officials say that classified papers found

8:59

recently at his home in garage in

9:01

Wilmington, Delaware and his office in Penn

9:03

Biden Center for diplomacy and global

9:05

engagement in Washington they were

9:07

inadvertently mishandled and quickly

9:09

disclosed and returned to the national archives as soon as they

9:11

found them, they were like, oh, shit. These aren't ours.

9:13

Send them back. Well, Greg

9:15

Jacob, who's a lawyer for Pence,

9:17

said the former vice president gave permission

9:19

to the FBI to collect classified

9:21

documents from his home last week after a lawyer

9:23

found what Jacob called, quote, a small

9:25

number of documents bearing classified

9:27

markings during the search of Pensus Indiana

9:29

home. No classified documents were found at

9:31

the offices of Pensus organization

9:33

advance seeing American freedom, which

9:35

-- Mhmm. -- you know,

9:37

whatever. But it's fairly funny. There

9:39

was an interview going around where they asked,

9:41

you know, Pence, did you in the

9:43

classified documents and Pence Pence's face,

9:45

so that always smells like he just

9:47

farted. It's just like, no.

9:50

No. But his head is nodding yes. That during

9:52

the whole time, no, I did not take any

9:53

classified. Yes, I did. Yes, I

9:56

did. Yeah.

9:58

But he you know, he didn't know.

10:00

And that's very common. It happened

10:02

to Biden. It even happened to Trump with those

10:04

two classified documents in the

10:06

storage unit. Yeah. And I think we

10:08

need to digitize our national

10:10

secrets. This is just getting silly.

10:12

Up next, from Gerstein and Cheney

10:14

at political, attorneys for the Washington

10:16

Post have been deposing x

10:18

AIDS of Devin Nunes as the

10:20

newspaper fends off the former

10:22

lawmakers' libel suit connected

10:25

to that unusual midnight

10:27

Uber run that Nuna has made to the

10:29

White House in twenty seventeen.

10:31

At a court hearing Wednesday, a lawyer for the

10:33

newspaper indicated that it had subpoenaed and

10:35

spoken with several staffers in pursuit of new

10:37

details about Nunez's March twenty first

10:39

twenty seventeen visit to the White House. To review

10:41

classified intelligence as well as

10:43

his decision to travel to the White House the

10:45

next day and brief

10:47

Trump. Among those attorneys,

10:49

Michael Ellis, a former Newness aid

10:51

on the House Intelligence Committee, who

10:53

later worked in the Trump White House,

10:55

and Jennifer Morreau, known as

10:58

his longtime scheduler. Now if

11:00

Michael Ella sounds familiar, Dana, he's the

11:02

one who stashed the Zelensky call

11:04

transcript in that code word classified

11:06

NICE system to hide it

11:08

from a broader audience. And

11:10

Trump wanted to install Michael Ellis

11:12

at the in the final days of his

11:14

presidency, but the NSA was like, no

11:16

bro, fuck off. And he

11:18

never actually ended up there. But I think

11:20

Trump wanted to burrow him in there. So

11:22

maybe he get access to classified documents

11:24

he wasn't entitled to post presidency.

11:26

That's just beans. In

11:29

late twenty twenty, Nunez sued the

11:31

Washington Post He alleges his complaint that a

11:33

post story published earlier that year labeled

11:35

Nunez's visit to the White House a midnight

11:37

run aimed at buttressing

11:39

Trump's baseless claims that he had

11:41

his wires tapped while

11:43

he was by the way,

11:45

you don't have your wires tapped. You have your

11:47

phone tapped. It's called the wire tapped.

11:50

But Trump said he had his wires

11:52

tapped while he was a candidate for president,

11:55

and the the post said that was erroneous

11:57

intended to imply nefariousness the the

11:59

post report came amid escalating probes related

12:01

to the Trump campaign's contacts with Russia

12:04

and as Trump attacked intelligence

12:06

agencies pursuing the matter. After

12:08

the story was published, the post added a correction

12:11

to the top of it, noting that Nunez

12:13

had stated he did not believe the wiretapping

12:15

claims and that his visit to the White House

12:17

took place during daylight hours.

12:19

The litigation is one of a flurry

12:21

of lawsuits known as filed against news outlets

12:23

and post attorneys have accused him in court

12:25

of wielding the litigation for political and

12:27

fundraising purposes. They have

12:29

told the judge, in their case, they are

12:31

seeking evidence from Nunez and his aides

12:34

about both the circumstances of the twenty

12:36

seventeen White House

12:36

trip, which could help prove accuracy of

12:39

the paper's reporting. This is what's called Discovery

12:41

Dana. This is where you fucking

12:43

are really sorry that you filed a lawsuit because now

12:45

you have to tell everybody why you

12:47

went to the White House in twenty

12:49

seventeen. Right. And not lie about

12:51

it. Yeah.

12:52

And they're also looking for evidence

12:54

about how Newness has sought to benefit

12:56

from this litigation. Among the evidence

12:58

the post is obtained is an official visitor

13:00

log showing that Nuna has arrived at the White House at

13:02

five thirty PM on March twenty first, Nunez

13:05

estimates he remained there for about ninety minutes

13:07

before attending a Republican party

13:09

function and then an after party with

13:11

constituents and a house colleague

13:13

at the time former rep George

13:15

Holding, Republican from North Carolina.

13:17

But during the nearly two hour hearing

13:19

on Wednesday, district court judge

13:21

Carl Nichols shited Nunez and his

13:23

attorney Steven Biss for what

13:25

he described as incomplete responses to

13:27

the post demands for information discovery

13:29

about the twenty seventeen White House

13:31

trip. The post had asked and

13:33

Nichols ordered, Nunez, to

13:35

produce a detailed itinerary about his

13:37

whereabouts and actions on that day, and

13:39

received just three paragraphs in response,

13:41

emitting key details about where he

13:43

wasn't who he was with. Quote,

13:45

that's not a timeline. That could not

13:47

be more general, Nichols

13:49

complained to Biss. Now

13:51

Biss filled in some of those details at Wednesday's

13:54

hearing, prompting judge Nichols to suggest

13:56

the information should have been turned over to the

13:58

post during discovery. Why are you fucking telling

14:00

me? You have to be

14:02

responsive to the discovery and interrogatories.

14:05

Quote, this isn't about telling me orally what

14:07

you think happened, said the judge who

14:09

is a Trump appointee by the way.

14:11

The postcontended Nunez's limited production

14:13

of information about his visit defied

14:15

Credulity. He told the paper

14:17

that only his former spokesman,

14:19

Jack Langr, had

14:21

relevant details about that trip and that he never

14:23

emailed texted or spoke to any other aides

14:25

or colleagues about it. This, the

14:27

lawyer, Nunez's lawyer, indicated Nunez

14:29

couldn't recall precisely how he arranged

14:31

a visit, but believed he coordinated it with

14:33

Michael Ellis on a classified phone

14:35

line and treated even the

14:37

logistical details about the visit classified.

14:39

Quote, everything related to this meeting was

14:41

classified, said this. But

14:43

Nichols noted that Nunez discussed the visit

14:45

publicly the next day. Whoopsie.

14:49

And Washington Post Attorney Nicholas

14:51

Gamsey said that Ellis' own deposition

14:54

contradicted aspects of that story. Ellis,

14:56

he said, recalled stepping out of a secure room

14:58

to reach Nunez on his personal phone,

15:00

not a classified line, and

15:02

Ellis told the paper that he might have texted

15:04

with Nunez about it. Yet,

15:06

Nunez produced no call records or texts in

15:08

response to the court's discovery order.

15:10

GAMZY contended that Nunez's claim to

15:12

have so little to produce in response to the

15:14

court's order begged belief.

15:17

Ellis, he said, also

15:19

recalled discussing the documents Nunez reviewed

15:21

with other Nunez staffers on the

15:23

intelligence committee and Nunez provided no

15:25

details about when and how he departed from the

15:27

White House to attend the GOP function,

15:30

including whether he traveled with anyone or took

15:32

a car, for which a receipt would be available if

15:34

he

15:34

did. We haven't gotten a straight answer.

15:36

GAMZY complained. Judge Nicole said he

15:38

intended to rule on the post complaints quickly

15:40

to keep the case moving forward.

15:42

Thank you so much, AG. Alright,

15:44

the former guy. Yep. His

15:47

Facebook and Instagram accounts are being reinstated.

15:49

In the social media giant

15:51

meta, They announced that Wednesday a little more

15:53

than two years after he was suspended from the

15:55

platforms over subsidiary posts on

15:57

the January sixth riot at the

15:59

capital. While Trump's accounts will be reinstated

16:02

in the coming weeks and come with,

16:04

quote, new guardrails in

16:06

place to deter repeat offenses. This

16:08

is from Nick pledge. He's

16:10

the president of global affairs at Meta. He

16:12

said that in a statement. Meta owns Facebook

16:14

and Instagram. Now those

16:16

guardrails will include quote, heightened

16:18

penalties for repeat offenses,

16:20

penalties, which will apply to other

16:22

public figures whose accounts are

16:24

reinstated from spensions related to civil

16:26

unrest under our updated

16:28

protocol. In the event that mister Trump

16:30

posts further violating content,

16:32

The content will be removed and he will

16:34

be suspended for between one

16:37

month and two years depending on the severity

16:39

of the violation. This is again from CLEG.

16:41

He said on the company's website. Trump

16:43

celebrated the announcement on his social media

16:45

platform, truth social, and this is

16:47

a quote, Facebook, which

16:49

has lost billions of dollars in value since

16:52

deplatforming your favorite

16:54

president, me, has just

16:56

announced that they are reinstating my

16:58

account. Such a thing should never

17:00

again happen to sitting president or

17:02

anyone else who is not deserving of

17:04

retribution. This is what he wrote on True

17:06

Social. He is a fucking

17:08

moron. The move by meta comes

17:10

weeks after the time frame Facebook gave itself

17:12

to reevaluate the twenty twenty one decision and

17:14

shortly after Republicans, many of whom have

17:16

been critical of Facebook's decision

17:19

regained control of the House of Representatives.

17:21

Well, mm-mm. Uh-huh. Then

17:23

house minority leader and now house

17:25

speaker, Kevin McCarthy vowed to,

17:27

quote, reign in big tech power over our speech

17:30

after Facebook announced the duration of Trump

17:32

suspension in twenty twenty one. Trump's

17:35

presidential campaign officially petitioned the

17:37

social media giant to allow Trump back on

17:39

the platform earlier this month.

17:41

And this is a quote, we believe that the ban on

17:43

president Trump's on Facebook has dramatically distorted and

17:46

inhibited the public

17:48

discourse. This is from Trump's campaign.

17:50

Yep. That's what they wrote in its January

17:52

seventeen letter to Meta, and it's according to a

17:54

copy of the letter reviewed by NBC

17:56

News. About a year after leaving office,

17:58

Trump launched True Social,

18:01

or he's posted content that's included fraudulent

18:03

stolen election claims and post promoting q

18:05

and on conspiracy theories. In

18:07

his statement, Wednesday, Craig said

18:10

meta's up updated protocol addresses these

18:12

types of posts, which

18:14

do not violate its community

18:16

standards but contribute, quote,

18:18

to the sort of risk that materialized on January

18:21

sixth. So he's saying that it contributed

18:23

January sixth, but didn't violate their

18:25

fucking rules. And this is another quote

18:27

we may limit the distribution of such

18:29

posts and for repeated instances may

18:31

temporarily restrict access to our

18:33

advertising tools. This step would mean that

18:35

content will remain visible on mister

18:37

Trump's account but would not be distributed

18:39

in people's feeds even if

18:41

they follow him. Which

18:43

will be hidden screaming into the void, apparently.

18:45

We may also remove the Re

18:47

Share button from such posts and

18:49

may stop them being recommended

18:52

or run as ads. This is again

18:54

from plug. Trump's reach on social

18:56

media is not nearly not

18:58

nearly as large as it was on the

19:00

other plat earns. He's slightly more than four point eight million

19:02

followers on True Social, and that's

19:04

compared to nearly eighty eight million

19:06

on Twitter and thirty four million on

19:08

Facebook, and I'm sure that includes a lot of

19:10

fucking Russian bots. So let's remember

19:12

that. Some advisers have said Trump might

19:14

be limited in posting on

19:16

other platforms given his relationship with true

19:18

social. The site has

19:20

declined to comment about any alleged

19:23

limits, and a spokesman for Trump has said the

19:25

campaign believes he'll be able to return

19:27

to Twitter as before even though

19:29

Trump says he doesn't want to, so we'll see.

19:31

And on Wednesday, Schiff,

19:33

who we love, blasted Meta's

19:35

decision on Twitter. And this is again from Schiff, Trump incited

19:37

in the insurrection and tried to

19:39

stop the peaceful transfer of power. He showed

19:41

no remorse, no contrition.

19:44

Giving him back access to social media platform to

19:46

spread his lies and demigodgery

19:48

is dangerous. Facebook caved.

19:51

Giving him a platform to do more harm.

19:53

A hundred percent agree with battleship on

19:55

this. I think it's gonna be

19:58

disastrous. And it'll be really

20:00

interesting to see how long it takes them to

20:02

violate the

20:02

rules. I think it's gonna be instantaneous, but

20:04

we'll see if they actually do anything

20:07

about it. Yeah. And it

20:09

doesn't violate our terms of service, and

20:11

so we'll just throttle back his

20:13

distribution of his posts and you

20:15

know, maybe it won't show up in people's feeds, but, you

20:17

know, we should let them back on absolutely

20:20

fucking

20:20

bonkers. Yeah. III can't I

20:23

can't understand it.

20:24

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producers,

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if you want Dana to read

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something has to come second and fourth and

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sixth.

22:30

And I'm gonna support I'm gonna

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you need. Because you're a sweetheart and I'm

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an asshole. Good Jane

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says, hello, beans, queens. I

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am submitting a correction that really

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shouldn't be a correction, but Indiana.

22:45

In discussing the finding of classified documents

22:47

at former vice president of the

22:49

United States, Pence's home in Carmel, Indiana

22:51

used the pronunciation of Carmel.

22:54

Like in California, but it's caramel, like the

22:56

flavor. This is the state that

22:58

pronounces nearly everything wonky because

23:00

Indiana, some examples. La

23:02

Fountaine is La Fountain.

23:05

Rushville is Rouscheville. Chili

23:08

is Shilai. Okay?

23:11

And Milan is Mylan.

23:13

Some pronunciations reverting back to their

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origins after decades of Indian

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occasion include Peru, formerly Peru,

23:19

and Brazil, formerly Brazil. It's

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a hodgepodge of the bizarre that's

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mixed in with Mexico, Denver Santa Fe,

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Napanee and even Gilead.

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It is the bible belt, after

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pictures taken. Oh,

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he's so cute. He really is

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adorable. Is Ren

24:07

Hu ex cousin on

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Renin Stimpi? And and

24:11

every time Sven came to visit, they would play Don'tWiz

24:13

on the electric fence, which --

24:15

Yeah. -- so cute.

24:18

Just

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Well, trivia for you. Look at him. Look at out the

24:20

window. Oh. You wanna take the

24:22

next one too? Sure. Why not? This is from Lindsay,

24:24

pronoun she and her. Hi, A. G.

24:26

And Dana. I'm a listener in the United Kingdom. I

24:28

thought I might give you a chuckle to find out how

24:30

I found your podcast. I've been fascinated

24:33

by US politics all my life.

24:35

So naturally, I followed many democrat and

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liberal journalists on Twitter before and

24:39

throughout the Trump presidency. But

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it was when Angela Landsbury

24:43

died that my attention was drawn to Mueller,

24:45

wrote on Twitter. I should have realized

24:47

but misread it as murder

24:49

she wrote. I clicked the follow expecting

24:51

to find little gems from CABIC

24:54

Cove or even a nod to Angela's exceptional performance

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in the original manchuring candidate

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accident. It didn't take long for me to

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discover the Daily Beans in Jack, which

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I now listen to every morning,

25:07

was was walking my Congress manual

25:09

body in the beautiful Coik

25:11

is Coik is Gladys

25:14

shares. Thank you. Say it

25:16

again. Gladys to share. Gladys to

25:18

share. It's that's Gladys to

25:19

share. Guessing.

25:20

Oh, I'm guessing. But it's I I think it's

25:23

Gloucestershire. Alright. Or

25:25

Gloucester. It might even be Gloucester. It's

25:28

Gloucestershire countryside. I now fully understand

25:30

how you guys felt having Trump as a

25:32

president. You all knew he'd be a

25:34

disaster, but the same way we knew Liz Truss

25:36

would be utterly hopeless. I

25:38

particularly enjoyed your recent Trump

25:40

Humper's comments. Me

25:42

too. Here's a picture of our

25:44

gorgeous working cocker's Daniel mainly

25:46

named because our daughter thought it would

25:48

be funny for my husband to walk into our

25:50

local pub and people say he

25:52

was Bonnie and Clive. Almost

25:55

quiet. Very cute. I get it. Thanks

25:57

for all the insight and sheer

25:59

joy each day, and that cocker's

26:02

adorable. What a beautiful bit? I love the

26:04

pink coat. And now,

26:05

Lindsay, welcome. I love it. That was such

26:07

a happy accident. Glister

26:10

Glister Sure. Mhmm. I'm not sure.

26:12

I've only seen the holiday once and I don't think

26:14

they talk about it.

26:15

Wow. Chester shy -- Yeah. --

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about glow glow glow glow glow glow

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So Yeah. That's true. I know Lindsay will

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write in. I hope Lindsay will write it,

26:30

buddy of us. But yeah. Tell us how to

26:31

pronounce, like, a brochure. Sure. I

26:34

think it's close to sure.

26:36

I could be totally wrong. I'm not sure,

26:38

but a lovely, absolutely

26:40

beautiful photo. Next from

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Elise. No pronouns given my dearest a

26:44

g and d j bean queens. I

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live in a farm and I work at home so I

26:48

can sometimes lose track of the day,

26:50

me too, as I don't usually write

26:52

it or see it written. I write it

26:54

every day and say it every day, so how bad am

26:56

I, Elyse? I love listening to

26:58

your podcast every day while I do my chores yesterday, and

27:01

especially full play. Trying to

27:03

keep everything I needed to get done in my head while I

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listened to the legal

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news. I looked up at my podcast app and briefly

27:08

saw the Beans episode titled Mother

27:10

May I. I had a sudden panic attack

27:12

thinking I went down a rabbit hole of the space

27:14

time continuum until I realized it

27:16

wasn't actually May

27:18

first.

27:18

Maybe not

27:18

should I say, but crazy should I think

27:21

about instead of mother May

27:23

one. That's

27:24

funny. This subconscious can be

27:26

quite the joker when you spend a lot of time alone.

27:29

Thank you both for quickly becoming my women who

27:31

delivered the news heroes. Rachel Motto

27:33

left a huge hole when she scaled way back. I

27:35

agree, Elise. I especially love the

27:37

good news at the end of every

27:37

episode. And for Pet Tax, I shall submit my

27:40

handsome Rescue Rusty, Aussie.

27:42

One photo being the beautiful boy that he was, the

27:44

other with the wild baby jackrabbits that

27:46

he gently brought to us one day.

27:48

Oh, and he's beautiful. Oh,

27:51

he herded the jackrabbits to

27:54

you, the baby bunnies. Oh,

27:56

my god. He literally is just

27:58

sitting there watching them. This is

28:00

so adorable. What a beautiful dog?

28:03

He is gorgeous. Thank

28:05

you. Thank you for that. My

28:07

know. Alright. This is E and D. No pronouns given. Hey,

28:09

beans, Queen's. I'm the proud parent of a trans oh,

28:11

of a transgender child. Living in

28:13

Northern Utah. We're currently driving

28:15

down to Salt Lake city I twenty

28:17

four twenty three. Is that one twenty four

28:20

twenty three? Mhmm. To protest

28:22

oh, got it. January twenty fourth. Good

28:25

lord Dana. See, she thought mother may I

28:27

was a date, and you saw I twenty four

28:29

twenty three. I was like, you're not sure

28:31

which inter inter state you wanna

28:33

drive highway? I know. So you're currently driving Salt

28:35

Lake City to protest. This is so

28:37

important everyone and I hope that you're

28:39

listening. To protest the current

28:41

legislation directed at my

28:43

child, s b sixteen ninety

28:45

three and one hundred and

28:47

HB1 thirty two. These are four

28:49

different bills. They are all directed

28:52

at transgender, children and

28:54

their parents. HB one hundred and

28:56

thirty two would immediately sever

28:58

youth from their doctors is

29:00

disheartening that in twenty twenty three, we

29:02

still have to fight to keep the

29:04

lifesaving care our child needs.

29:06

Keep us in your thoughts and keep up your

29:08

good work. Now, Everyone I

29:10

want you to hear this. In

29:12

twenty twenty two, I believe

29:14

there was over

29:17

three hundred pieces of legislation directed

29:19

at transgender people

29:21

specifically, whether it was sports,

29:23

healthcare, even

29:25

adults, not just

29:27

the children, over three hundred pieces of

29:30

legislation, this far into two

29:32

thousand twenty twenty three, Less

29:34

than a month in, they already have

29:36

ninety across the

29:38

country. Ninety. Mhmm. I

29:40

want you to think about how

29:42

fucking exhausted this

29:44

community must be. To day

29:46

in and day out, have

29:49

their lives and

29:51

mere existence debated

29:54

publicly day in and day

29:56

out. If you can

29:58

support please do that. And there's

30:00

a note here. This is a great account

30:02

on Twitter. It's alcandra

30:05

carbayo and it's at ESQUEER

30:10

underscore at s

30:12

square is what it looks like.

30:14

ESQUEER

30:16

underscore is a great resource

30:18

for porting out legislative threats to

30:20

trans people and there are a

30:22

ton already. Now we're gonna include a

30:24

link under the Google Doc tracking anti

30:26

trans bills that are being introduced right

30:28

now. And so we'll include that

30:30

link in the show notes and

30:32

for the patrons. But I ask of you

30:34

if you can help bring light

30:36

to these, fight these

30:39

it's such bullshit and all it is is to

30:41

rally the base. And I will say this

30:43

and and I know this sort of my final

30:46

thoughts here. Republicans in the

30:48

GOP, they don't give a shit about

30:50

abortion. They don't give a shit about drag

30:52

queens, but they are going to rally their base, and

30:54

I'll be honest I don't even think they give a

30:56

shit about whether someone is trans or

30:58

not. And we have proof of that.

31:00

They they don't like people that have abortions

31:02

until they need Hershey walker. They don't

31:04

like people that are drag queens until you've got

31:06

George Santos or whatever the hell his

31:08

name is And I'm telling

31:10

you, these people don't actually care

31:13

about trans children. They're not

31:15

afraid of them. They're not afraid of trans

31:17

women in women's restrooms where they

31:19

belong. It's all fear

31:21

tactics. I'm asking you to speak out as often as

31:23

you can against this bullshit and make sure that

31:25

you're supporting this community. They are

31:27

exhausted. It's exhausting.

31:30

I can't even imagine.

31:32

Thank you for that

31:34

submission. Thanks for letting me be on my soapbox. I'm

31:36

just so fucking tired. You know, every weekend, I

31:38

I go to a new gala for either the Human Rights

31:41

Campaign or another organization raising

31:43

up LGBT queue equality and

31:45

the legislation that anyone

31:48

have if you if you have never had to sit

31:50

and listen to your humanity, be publicly

31:53

debated by the supreme court

31:55

or by a politician, you

31:57

have no idea what it feels like. And I

31:59

only know partially as a lesbian,

32:01

a cis woman lesbian in

32:03

this world what it feels like

32:06

for me, back when our

32:08

marriages and our humanity was

32:10

debated, it's day in and day out for trans

32:12

people right now. They are exhausted.

32:14

Please support and

32:16

show the love as much as you possibly can. Howard

32:18

Bauchner:

32:18

Yeah. Hundred percent. Thank you, Dana. Thank

32:20

you for that. And

32:22

Thank you for the work that you do. Absolutely.

32:25

And thanks and thanks to these listeners who

32:27

are traveling down to to

32:30

protest these house bills and and senate bills in Utah.

32:33

Over ninety, my

32:35

god. And, yeah, again, we're gonna have AAA link

32:37

to the Google Doc and and you

32:39

you can follow e s square underscore

32:42

on Twitter for for a lot of updates as

32:43

well. And and also Charlotte Klemer, our French Dollar

32:46

Klemer puts out a lot of stuff Charlotte's

32:48

amazing. She's fantastic.

32:49

If you can follow her on Twitter, that's she's

32:51

definitely a good resource as well.

32:53

Yeah. Hundred percent. Thank you so much.

32:55

For that submission. And thanks to all of our listeners

32:57

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33:00

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33:02

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33:06

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33:08

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33:10

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