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Descartes Praised Lycurgus. It’s Our Earliest Glimpse of the Problem with Modernist Thinking

Descartes Praised Lycurgus. It’s Our Earliest Glimpse of the Problem with Modernist Thinking

Released Monday, 22nd August 2022
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Descartes Praised Lycurgus. It’s Our Earliest Glimpse of the Problem with Modernist Thinking

Descartes Praised Lycurgus. It’s Our Earliest Glimpse of the Problem with Modernist Thinking

Descartes Praised Lycurgus. It’s Our Earliest Glimpse of the Problem with Modernist Thinking

Descartes Praised Lycurgus. It’s Our Earliest Glimpse of the Problem with Modernist Thinking

Monday, 22nd August 2022
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Descartes, by placing ultimate importance on one's ideas, gave credibility to the outrageous ideas that littered modernity.

Lycurgus put the “Spartan” into Sparta.

Before Lycurgus, Sparta was like other Greek cities. Its citizens sang, celebrated love and good food, wrote poetry, and crafted fine pottery.

After Lycurgus, Sparta became grim and tough, determined to keep its slave class under control despite the daunting slave-to-citizen ratio (10:1?).

Music, poetry, fine pottery, and good food vanished. Family and love remained, but in twisted forms.

Men were discouraged from marrying small wives. Men with vigorous wives were encouraged to lend them to vigorous men. Men who grew too old to service their young wives were expected to make her available to young men.

The newborn was brought before a state council of inspectors. If rejected, the baby was thrown from a cliff.

At age seven, boys were removed from their families and raised by the state in barracks. Martial training was everything and done in the nude. The teachers provoked quarrels among the boys so they’d fight. An annual ritual involved whipping several boys until their blood stained the ground. At age 12, each boy received only one garment to wear for the year. He was not allowed to bathe much and was required to sleep in the open, on a bed of rushes. He was taught to read and write, but barely. He was taught to forage and steal. Stealth was valued above all, and getting caught doing whatever—stealing, trying to bang one’s own wife—brought punishment (great shame, flogging, etc.). At age 30, if the boy survived all this, he was admitted to full citizenship.

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