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So let's do these people. Let's come straight to

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all the results in another edition of Vote Demo.

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So, going into

1:20

last night's midterms, almost everyone

1:23

was expecting a huge night

1:25

for Republicans, a red wave

1:28

that would wash away the Democrats in Congress

1:30

and yank off Joe Biden's swim trucks so

1:34

one could see his old man butt. But

1:37

now the votes are in, and already

1:40

already people are realizing

1:42

that although there's still a lot left to count.

1:45

It's clear that the red wave did

1:47

not show up this morning. Control

1:49

of Congress up in the air, with both the House

1:52

and Senate still hanging in the balance, Republicans

1:55

acknowledging the expected red wave never

1:57

materialized. Five races still to call.

1:59

It's un clear who will control the

2:01

Senate. Control of the House is leading Republican,

2:04

but only barely. Democrats overall

2:06

are doing much better than expected. That predicted

2:09

red wave only appears to

2:11

be a splash. If you will,

2:13

the word wave has no application

2:16

yet to what we're seeing. This might feel

2:18

more like the edge of a lake. This really looks

2:20

much more like a red whisper. If that

2:23

This wasn't even red wave. It's not even a

2:25

red little ripple in a pond. If

2:27

I've heard it called, you know, the red sprinkler. I've

2:29

heard it called the red splash, the red

2:31

puddle, the red drizzle,

2:34

the red sprints. Yeah,

2:36

you know, when you're paying and then a little bit

2:38

comes out after you're done. It's

2:40

a red one of those. You should

2:43

probably go get that checked out, by the way,

2:45

And like some of these didn't even make sense,

2:48

you know, Like I'm sorry, but what what is a

2:50

red whisper? What

2:53

is that? Like a smr ful Conservatives

2:55

stuff? It is? I was just like, now

2:58

i'm the voting

3:00

writings. Oh

3:02

yeah, but

3:04

yes, last night was not the red wave

3:06

that many people expected it to be. And to be clear, to

3:09

be clear, Republicans are still in good shape

3:11

to take control of the House and they may even

3:13

take control of the Senate when

3:15

it's all said and done. Now it's too early. It's

3:17

too early to tell because you know America Council's

3:20

votes as slowly as George R. Martin writes

3:22

the books. But it's

3:24

definitely not the huge win that they were expecting.

3:26

So it feels like a lost which is really strange to

3:28

me about politics. You know, it's the only

3:31

place where you can technically win but still

3:33

lose because people thought you were gonna

3:35

win. More basically,

3:37

Republicans got the hand job version of winning.

3:41

Yeah, like it got the job done,

3:43

but no one's really happy about it.

3:48

It was like ma id

3:50

have done the chi Marsel ma And

3:56

again, lots of races are still undecided.

3:58

Arizona and Nevada won't be

4:00

done counting votes for a few more days. We won't

4:02

know who won Alaska's racist until

4:04

the dog sled arrives. And the big Senate race

4:06

in Georgia looks like it is headed to

4:08

a runoff in December. Yeah,

4:10

which is only gonna score up herschel Walker's brain even

4:12

more right, I don't think it's like another

4:14

election has been six years already.

4:17

Oh man, that means I got thirty

4:19

five children. Now what's happening? Oh

4:22

wow. For

4:25

one big race that was decided last night

4:27

was in Pennsylvania, where John Federman defeated

4:30

Dot Dog, which

4:37

you gotta admit as exciting for the Capital because

4:39

nobody in the Senate looks like this guy. I mean,

4:41

have you seen this. He doesn't look like everyone.

4:44

He's massive. He's got the bald head, the goatee,

4:46

the hoodie, which is dope. Nor many senators

4:48

look like your dad's boss from work. You

4:50

know. John Federman looks like he can physically

4:53

raise the death ceiling seven

4:56

trillier at

5:00

look not. One of the reasons so many people were surprised

5:02

by lost night's results is that for weeks. For weeks,

5:04

pundits have been saying that there are

5:06

only a few issues that really mattered to Americans

5:08

right now, like inflation, crime

5:11

and whatever the hell is going on with the Twitter check marks,

5:13

and in particular, in particular, the experts were

5:15

saying that voter concerns about

5:17

abortion had faded since

5:20

the summer. I guess

5:22

all those experts have been fired and will

5:24

never be allowed back on television because it

5:26

turns out they were just a little bit

5:28

wrong. The issue of abortion turned out

5:30

to be a massive factor yesterday,

5:33

with the Supreme Court's decision in the Job's case

5:35

to overturn Roe v. Wade playing

5:37

a much bigger role than polls

5:39

before the election suggested. In California,

5:42

Michigan, and Vermont, voters chose to enshrine

5:44

reproductive rights into their states

5:47

constitutions. The biggest surprise

5:49

came in Republican leading Kentucky, where

5:51

voters rejected and anti abortion

5:54

constitutional amendment. It was a

5:56

huge night for abortion rights across

5:58

the country. I mean, women vote it in droves.

6:01

Yes, But people said a few weeks ago that it

6:03

didn't matter that it was fading. It didn't. Turns

6:05

out that wasn't right. Yeah, it turns out

6:07

abortion rights didn't fade away as a concert

6:09

And it's crazy that people ever thought

6:11

it would. You know, Like what women out

6:13

there would be like, you know what ready bothered me over

6:15

the summer when the state government wanted to take

6:18

control of my reproductive system. But now

6:20

I'm like whatever, Maybe

6:22

my body is their choice. I don't know. So

6:26

it looks like abortion rights with a big one last nights.

6:28

And it looks like the big loser last night was

6:30

not another than Donald jumped the shock Trump

6:34

because because

6:36

so far it looks like

6:39

many of the candidates he endorsed

6:41

ended up being unendorsed by the voters.

6:44

Here's what we know for sure this morning. It was a disappointing

6:47

night for former President Trump. The biggest

6:49

loser last night was Donald Trump.

6:52

In state after state candidates that

6:54

he brought to the race, candidates that he endorsed

6:57

did not win or are losing right now.

6:59

But perhaps a worst result for Trump is that

7:01

his biggest Republican rival had the best night

7:03

of anybody. Florida Governor Rhonda Santist

7:06

might have moved closer to a possible presidential

7:09

bid with a commanding victory

7:11

over former Governor Charlie Chris.

7:14

That's rights. It was a bad night

7:16

for Trump and a great night for his

7:18

rival, Ronda Sanctimonious,

7:22

who absolutely crushed it in Florida,

7:24

I mean crushed it like Bosuls crushed

7:26

it. And judging by this post on

7:29

his knuckle of Twitter, Trump is not taking it. Well.

7:32

Yeah, he wrote, shouldn't it be said that

7:34

it Dunie to Eddie I got

7:36

one point one million more votes

7:38

in Florida than run d got

7:41

this year five point seven

7:43

million to four point six minute, Jess

7:45

askin, Oh

7:52

wow, and you

7:54

see what you've done? Run to Sanctas. You see what

7:56

you've done. You made Trump so mad he's

7:58

doing maths four pointed that's

8:00

five pite seven even,

8:05

sounding like Shakespeare? And that shouldn't it

8:07

be said? And

8:09

here that too far. Here's

8:13

the thing. Here's the thing that's exciting about this. The Santors

8:16

of success, combined with Trump's

8:18

failures, is already causing chaos

8:20

in the Republican party right because now

8:22

Republicans are asking themselves, what

8:24

do we do? Do we stick with Trump,

8:27

who's screwed up two elections now but

8:29

still controls all of the hardcore Republicans

8:32

and it's also completely toxic with everyone else. Oh

8:35

were gold around the Santus, who's clearly

8:37

the upgrade of Trump, But then you risk losing

8:39

Trump and then he burns down the entire g O P. What

8:42

do you do? And it's funny. It's so

8:44

funny to watch because all these Conservatis they

8:46

don't know what to do, all right. They're just like,

8:48

do I go with Trump? Oh? Do

8:50

I go with the census? Oh? If I had principles

8:52

that would follow them, But I just want to be on the winning side.

8:55

Which one do I go with? You

9:00

know? Right now? Right now? Conservances

9:02

in America like kids who can see a bad divorce

9:04

coming and they want to pick sides, but they don't

9:06

show which parent is going to keep the house. But

9:12

it's true. Trump had a tough nights. You

9:14

know, poor guy was just at home watching his top

9:16

election deniers lose and crying into

9:18

a box of classified documents nuclear

9:24

But because this is Donald Trump, he's

9:27

not taking responsibility. In fact, it's

9:29

being reported that he's blaming

9:32

Millannia for

9:34

pushing him to endorse Dr

9:36

Oz in the first place, saying

9:38

it was quote not her best

9:41

decision. Yeah, and

9:43

I'm sure. In response, Millania was like, yes, it's

9:45

true, I'm very bad that picking man, But

9:54

not everything about the election was about Democrats

9:56

or Republicans. So let's take a moment to appreciate

9:59

all the history Rick moments from last

10:01

night. We want to tell you about several

10:03

historic firsts across the country. In

10:06

Alabama, Republican Katie Britt the

10:08

winner in the race for US Senate. She is

10:10

the first woman ever elected to the

10:12

Senate in Alabama. In Maryland, Democrat

10:14

Westmore will be the state's first black

10:17

governor. And Massachusetts made history

10:19

onto fronts. Democratic Attorney General

10:21

Maura Healy will become the first female

10:23

governor in the state's history, and she will

10:25

also be the nation's first openly lesbian

10:28

governor. Election history was also

10:30

made in Florida. Year old Democrat

10:32

Maxwell Frost is said to be the first

10:34

member of Generation Z to

10:36

win a seat in Congress. Wow,

10:41

a twenty five year old

10:43

congressman. That's gonna be great

10:45

to have a young person in Congress. And by young,

10:47

I mean under I mean it

10:50

will be tough, though, will be tough being that young

10:52

around that many old people. Office

10:55

time is going to be spent helping them with their phones.

10:58

It's gonna be the middle of a speech like and that's why

11:01

my district and the people

11:03

of it deserved what what, Chuck,

11:05

No, just just swipe up, swipe

11:08

up to close the app. No, swipe up, No, don't tick

11:10

that. There are not really hot singles in your

11:12

area. It's a trick, Chuck, it's a trick.

11:17

And then a lot of other cool First. Two women first,

11:19

lgbt Q first, immigrant first. Honestly, I almost

11:21

feel bad for anyone who won last night and wasn't

11:24

a historic first. There's

11:26

probably some straight white guy last night giving

11:28

his victory speech like it's an honor

11:30

to be the first governor in state history.

11:32

Who can uh do this?

11:35

Uh? Pretty pretty sick? Right?

11:37

Yeah, yeah, no, just me? All

11:40

right, that's a really headlines. But before we go to a break, it's sound

11:42

to check in on the weather forecast without very

11:44

own desil like everybody,

11:51

good to see you again, Desi. You

11:58

know it's getting co from the

12:00

east, the storms everywhere. What's the weather

12:02

looking like? Weather's great? Look outside.

12:04

What I want to talk about is

12:06

how people came out and voted for

12:09

abortion rights all over

12:11

this country. Yes,

12:16

big deal, big deal, including

12:18

my home state of Kentucky. Yeah

12:23

that was huge. Kentucky,

12:25

Trevor, the state where women have fewer

12:27

rights than most horses. It's

12:30

true. I mean, in college I had to get my birth

12:32

control from a horse fed Wow,

12:36

veterinarian. That's terrible dizzy. Yeah

12:38

right, I mean they also had kedemy and so

12:40

it wasn't all bad. And

12:42

that year I went on to win the Belmont anyway,

12:45

Also, New York and Massachusetts

12:47

elected female governors for the first

12:50

time, which

12:55

is a win. It is a win. But

12:58

if we're being honest, how is

13:00

this only happening now in

13:03

New York and Massachusetts?

13:06

These two states have been states since

13:08

the beginning of states. You

13:10

know how long women have been around, Like

13:13

at least that long, maybe more. Oh

13:17

and how about that Rhonda Santis victory

13:19

last night? Huh oh my god.

13:22

I almost feel bad for Donald Trump. You know,

13:24

he had to smile and clap for to Santis

13:27

on the outside when he was fuming with

13:29

jealousy on the inside. Trump

13:31

finally felt like one of his beauty pageant contestants.

13:44

And perhaps the best news

13:47

is that the massive red wave only hit

13:49

Florida. Oh

13:51

man, and I think all women

13:54

can agree. It's always a good thing when

13:56

you're red wave is lighter than you expected.

14:05

I just want to say I get how

14:07

Republicans are feeling. Sometimes

14:09

you expect your red wave to arrive, and

14:11

it doesn't, and

14:14

then you start to panic. You

14:17

consider your options, which are suddenly

14:19

very limited. Ah

14:23

plus plus

14:30

with this runoff in Georgia, you might not know

14:33

if your red wave is coming for another few weeks,

14:35

and by then it might be too late. The

14:38

next thing you know, herschel Walker sending you a

14:40

get well card with the check in it. Anyway,

14:47

I just want to say to all of those Republicans

14:50

who are feeling this way, don't stress.

14:52

Trust me. I've got a great veterinarian

14:54

in Kentucky. You can call it hot,

14:57

not because Martin

14:59

was a Thank

15:03

you so much for the However, I guess

15:05

all right we come back. We're gonna be talking about a surprising

15:08

result from last night that most people don't know about. So

15:10

don't go away,

15:31

Welcome back to the Daily Show. You

15:34

know, yesterday's election,

15:36

yesterday's election wasn't just about politicians.

15:39

People also voted on ballot issues.

15:41

For instance, Connecticut voted to implement

15:44

an early voting system, right, California

15:46

voted against legalizing mobile

15:48

gaming, and Maryland voted to legalize

15:51

marijuana. So finally you can buy drugs

15:53

in Baltimore. Right. But

15:56

but a big ballot measure

15:58

in several states involved slavery.

16:01

And I'm not talking about teaching slavery.

16:04

I'm talking about actual slavery.

16:07

Five states were voting on constitutional

16:09

amendments to banned slavery, and not all

16:11

of them past those bands. In all,

16:13

five states were voting on removing slavery

16:15

from their constitutions. For Mont, Alabama,

16:18

Tennessee all voted to banned slavery

16:20

as punishment for a crime. Louisiana,

16:22

a former slave state, rejected that

16:25

amendment. All right, America,

16:27

Four out of five states said no to slavery

16:29

in the year twenty two. That's what

16:31

I'm talking about. That's

16:33

amazing. Now we just need to invent electricity

16:36

and we're living in the future. Baby, Oh,

16:38

I can't wait. Yeah, as

16:40

you're a Louisiana unlike those other woke

16:43

states, voted against

16:46

ending slavery. Yeah, and

16:48

for more on that, we go live now to Roy

16:50

Withold Jr. Everybody,

16:57

Hello, what's

17:01

going on after them? For the reason we com

17:03

excused because you are in Louisiana

17:05

right now. Run

17:07

no no, no, Old no, no, no no no. I'm

17:10

not in Louisiana. I'm

17:13

on the Mississippi side of the border.

17:16

And that's as far as I'm going. But I'm definitely

17:18

not going in. I ain't going to this. You

17:21

can't tell me a place just voted yes

17:23

on slavery then asked me to go there.

17:25

I'm too old, too tired, I don't seem good.

17:28

I can't be a slavey right.

17:33

This is bad. This is bad, yes, but but it

17:35

doesn't apply to you. This is about forcing

17:37

prisoners to perform labor for free.

17:40

Oh is that right? I

17:42

didn't realize that, my bad man? You right?

17:45

You you know what, man, let me just mosey on into Louisiana,

17:48

fool. Next thing, you know, I walk around and then

17:50

they got me for jaywalking. Now I'm twelve years

17:52

of slave and I got away for Brad

17:54

Pitt to come and save my ass. No, thank

17:56

you. I am safe for here in Mississippi,

17:59

which it's something no black man

18:01

has ever said. But

18:05

Mississippi it is not because he's vot

18:07

enough, fair enough for it, at least

18:09

at least your home state of Alabama votes

18:11

in last night to band slavery, and it won the

18:13

vote by that's

18:15

amazing. Yeah, But but that

18:19

means voted to keep

18:21

slavery that's

18:24

a lot of people. Now, every time I'm at the grocery

18:26

store, I'm looking around trying to guess who voted

18:28

to enslaved my ass. I

18:30

bet ms Patterson was the one she always saying

18:32

shipped to be like, oh baby, you grew up so

18:35

strong. Get your hands off me, squeezing

18:38

the muscle, sizing me up, Trevor, this is terrible

18:40

for black people. Well, technically, Roy, under

18:42

these laws, it's not just black people. Everyone,

18:45

even white people could be enslaved.

18:50

Blue bullshit. Well

18:53

why didn't they just leave with that? They're

18:56

gonna make white people slaves? Now, that's the most

18:58

progressive thing I ever heard. You

19:00

know, no, right, I

19:02

think even something. They're gonna make white

19:05

people's slaves. I know you can't make them

19:07

out here. You gotta catch them on your own. Hey, you know

19:09

what you know? I

19:12

think I'm my head in the Louisiana's gonna get me

19:14

a white slave. Man. I see you later, Bro, this

19:16

is gonna be nav three. You're

19:18

under a refer day rocket. No

19:22

no, no, no, no, no, no doubt,

19:24

how Devin, they're trying to get me travel oh

19:27

ship, good luck with that, right, right? Would j everybody

19:30

I'm gonna have to put bell the all right, thank you because when

19:32

we come back, Mark leave a bit for the journey

19:34

on the show to try to buy half the Republicans.

19:37

The capital shots don't go away

19:57

talking about to day show might

20:00

get to like or the stock writer at the Atlanta

20:02

Here's you have to discuss the midterm results

20:05

and his latest number one New York

20:07

Times bestseller. Thank you for your

20:09

servitude, Donald Trump's Washington

20:11

and the price of submission. Please welcome

20:14

Mark Leibovitch, everything,

20:28

Mark Leibovitz, Welcome back to The Daily Show. Thank

20:30

you for having and congratulations on

20:33

another number one New York Times best selling book.

20:35

Um, this this is really interesting for me because you're

20:37

one of the best writers out there, not just

20:39

because of how you write, but how you capture

20:41

the world that you observe

20:44

and its politics. You know, talking

20:46

about Trump, talking about the Republicans, talking about

20:48

the Democrats and how the respond. But this book is really interesting

20:51

because it's about the whole

20:54

that Donald Trump has on the Republican

20:56

Party and you talk about it in a way that

20:58

I think few people understand. And tell

21:00

me why it's servitude and not just him

21:03

being the head Honcho because the

21:05

Republican Party has surrendered to Donald Trump.

21:08

I lost my voice last night. I was up all night.

21:10

But I understand surrendered. And

21:14

there is not another book about Donald Trump. This is

21:16

a book about the party that enabled him. This

21:19

is a book about the people who bowed

21:21

out to him, who could have stopped him,

21:23

and yet continue to underperforming elections

21:26

like they did last night. And the

21:28

reason is Trump is sort of an anchor around

21:30

their necks and no one

21:32

is standing up to them. And I wanted to

21:35

give readers a sense of what this looks like. You've

21:37

given us more than just a sense, because we

21:40

saw a glimpse of this when when the you

21:42

know, when the primaries we're still taking place. You had

21:44

all these Republicans like Trump is not the Republican

21:47

Party, all of them, Marco Rubio,

21:49

Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, who was on

21:51

the show saying Donald Trump will never be the face

21:53

I will never support all these things. Trump

21:56

wins, and almost overnight

21:58

everybody falls into line. Everybody

22:00

becomes pro Trump. But what you show us in the book,

22:02

because of the interview, some people anonymous, but some people

22:04

on the record saying, no, we

22:07

hate this guy, but we care

22:09

about winning more than anything else,

22:11

so we're gonna work to keep

22:13

him in. It's such a weird dynamic. I

22:16

was stunned by what they said to me, both

22:18

on the record and obviously the dirty

22:20

little secrets inside Washington is

22:22

that most Republicans, who

22:25

absolutely um you know, just

22:27

bow down to him in public, trash

22:30

him in private. And there are

22:32

a lot of people last night in the Republican

22:34

Party who are saying Donald Trump did this,

22:36

this is another election he coughed up for us.

22:39

He's the first president in a hundred years to

22:41

lose the White House, the House,

22:43

and the Senate. Um they underperformed

22:46

in another election last night, but they're

22:48

only saying it privately. I

22:50

will think that this spell has been broken

22:53

when I see some people actually

22:55

speaking publicly about what he's doing to the party.

22:57

You know, it's

23:00

interesting that you say that, because because

23:03

as as we read through these conversations in the book,

23:05

and you know, I love how the book sort of starts

23:08

with the Trump Hotel and what

23:10

it represents a moment in time,

23:12

a moment where he's at his peak, and how people literally

23:15

come in physically almost bow to his shrine, and then

23:17

at the end way it's now, you know,

23:20

almost like the vacated version

23:22

of its former self. But but the party

23:24

seems different in that Republicans

23:27

are murmuring, but nobody's saying. You see what

23:29

people are saying. I'm like, it wasn't ideal that Trump

23:31

did this. It wasn't you know. They're scared of him

23:33

though, because they've given him the pozzy or

23:35

he's taken it, but they seem scared of him, and it's

23:37

been depressing to watch play out over all these

23:39

years. When I was scared about was

23:42

yesterday's election being the red wave

23:45

that so many people anticipated, which would

23:47

have indicated all of this. It would

23:49

have indicated the character flaws,

23:52

the weakness, the pathetic nous

23:54

that so many of them who could stop it. And

23:56

if there were ten less Cheneys it would be different,

23:58

but there's only one. I think it

24:01

also illuminates something

24:03

that's actually I mean, I don't even know how to say

24:05

this correctly, but it's weird because

24:08

Trump is almost more honorable than they

24:10

are, because I mean, he says what he's saying, he

24:13

does what he's doing. Yeah, they

24:16

say what they're saying in private, but then they do

24:18

what he's doing in public. And

24:20

so you know what I mean, where does that leave a country

24:22

where lawmakers don't believe

24:24

what they're voting for, don't believe what they what

24:26

the cow tewing to like? Where does that

24:29

leave American How do they feel about the position that

24:31

they're put in the country in? Right? I mean, what does it's about

24:33

a party when Donald Trump is the honorable one?

24:35

Right? And and

24:37

and also given

24:40

how vulnerable Democrats were last

24:43

night, how unpopular Biden is, how

24:45

bad inflation is, all

24:47

those issues to still you

24:49

know, underperforming the degree they did, gives

24:52

you an indication of how you

24:54

know, voters are saying like, we don't like this

24:56

either. In fact, we like this worse. So

24:59

I think you know, it's again it's all relative, But

25:01

but where do you think this goes? Now? Even even you

25:03

know, not just as somebody who talks to them, somebody

25:05

who analyzes, somebody who's been in many of

25:07

the rooms where these discussions are being held, it

25:10

feels like, you know, you watch Fox News now and you can

25:12

see people being a little more vocal saying the Sanctis has

25:14

created the future, the Santis is the guy we should be going with, The Santus

25:16

de Santis de Santis. But there's still you

25:19

know, but Trump, but Trump or Trump and and

25:21

and it seems like unless

25:23

Trump steps down. You have one of the

25:25

craziest quotes I've ever seen from

25:28

somebody who's a lawmaker, who says, you say,

25:30

what is your plan, and

25:33

the person says, dead serious,

25:35

our plan is to hope that he's dead

25:38

by then not listen.

25:40

This is the quote. It's a quote.

25:42

They're saying this. They're like, we don't have

25:45

another way, we don't know what to do. It's

25:47

craft, it's depressing, but it

25:49

also goes to the passivity of what

25:52

these folks are doing. Someone else will take care of

25:54

the problem. And even now, no one

25:56

has spoke up all of the

25:58

like I said earlier, all of the criticisms

26:00

of Trump have been private. So I

26:03

just don't think and these are weak people. These

26:06

are these are people who have sold I

26:08

mean, whatever they've sold, they they have given

26:11

up. I mean, it's the price of submission. As

26:14

Lindsay Graham said to me, if you don't want to be reelected,

26:16

you're in the wrong business. Um.

26:18

And you know, at a certain point you sort of

26:20

ask is it really worth it? Yeah, Yeah, it really

26:23

illuminates I think many of the

26:25

things that are wrong with American politics, and that it

26:27

has become more about staying in the

26:29

job as opposed to doing the job that somebody

26:32

has put you in, and

26:35

and it leaves the country in a place where

26:37

every everything is for show, everything is for an idea.

26:40

So you know, when when you look at it now, just

26:42

hearing the whispers, hearing everybody you

26:44

know or even the people speaking publicly to you,

26:47

is this the moment where the party says, Okay,

26:49

it's gonna be aroundos Santis or

26:51

are they still just waiting to see what Trump decides

26:54

to do with the Republican Party.

26:58

I've had a lot of moments where I have not fever

27:00

is going to break if January six

27:02

didn't do it, if him losing to

27:04

Joe Biden didn't do it, I don't think this is

27:06

going to do it. Wow. Wow.

27:10

And so as somebody

27:12

then who who who talks to

27:14

these politicians, I would love to know where

27:16

you see it all going from here,

27:19

because you know, on on the one hand,

27:21

you have the Democrats who have Joe

27:23

Biden, and I remember you you wrote, uh,

27:25

you know, an article by about Joe Biden which

27:28

really blew up over the summer, and it was about

27:30

him being too old to run in you

27:32

said, you said, hey, Joe, you've done what you said

27:34

you want to do, full

27:39

credit, you

27:41

know. But but but you you came out and you said

27:43

something that got you know, got you a lot of flak,

27:46

but also had many people say, yeah, I didn't

27:48

want to say that, but but but it's true because I don't know if people

27:50

remember Joe Biden said I only want to run to

27:52

beat Donald Trump and that's all I'm doing. And now

27:54

it seems like he may want to run again,

27:57

but you want of the first people say, don't run again. My

27:59

question to you then comes, what do

28:01

the Democrats do? Because

28:03

on the one hand, yes, Joe

28:05

Biden is old. On the one hand, yes, he may have only been

28:07

the person to be Trump, etcetera. But on the other

28:10

hand, and incumbent has a feeling of it's

28:12

the status quo. People don't like presidents

28:14

changing all the time. That's why Trump losing with such an

28:16

anomaly. So what do you think the option

28:18

is for the Democrats? Is there not a risk that if they put someone else

28:21

up, that person is just now a toss up

28:23

in the election. Yeah. I mean the thing about Trump

28:25

is that he's not only made the Republicans

28:27

scared, He's made the Democrats risk

28:30

averse. They're afraid of trying

28:32

someone new or exciting or different.

28:35

I mean, Joe Biden, his most

28:38

important contribution to the Democratic

28:40

Party and arguably to the country was beating

28:43

Donald Trump on November third.

28:46

Wherever it was, whatever election they was fixed

28:48

that. Um. The

28:50

problem is governing is a bit of a bit afterwards,

28:53

right as as we sort of learned, you know, he

28:55

might be called upon to do it again. Um,

28:58

but you know, it's not like the Democrats have an vious

29:00

and deep bench. But I did believe

29:02

that if some of the people like

29:04

Tim Ryan were to somehow win last

29:07

night, they would immediately emerge and you

29:09

know, maybe a Jhon Fetterman, maybe

29:11

a Pete bo Judge, maybe a couple of hours and

29:13

and and to your points about being risk of us, I mean,

29:15

the history of the Democratic Democratic Party has shown

29:18

that they've often had the fresh off

29:20

the bench person. You know, Barack Obama was

29:22

like the young senator, and you know, and you look

29:24

at all these other Bill Clinton was the young upstart.

29:27

People didn't expect that. So maybe that is where the path

29:29

lies. Isn't taking a little risk, But

29:32

from your book, it seems like nobody wants to take

29:34

the risk, and it seems that because

29:36

of that, the country is in a really

29:38

scary place, because it feels

29:40

like it's risk averse and yet heading

29:42

to the riskies place of all. Indeed, well,

29:45

on that note, it's a really fun be treat.

29:49

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29:51

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