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You're listening to Comedy Central. Secretary

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Clinton, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing

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Show. Well,

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I'm social distancing in my house, and it's

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great to talk to you today. To genuinely,

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a lot of the time, I find myself wondering just

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like what you're doing and where you are as

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a human being, because I know if I was in

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your position, I would spend most of my time tweeting

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I told you so, And then I would be like

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I would walk around the streets just looking at

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people saying it could have been me, it could have been me.

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So what, like, what do you do? I genuinely would like

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to know what do you do? Uh? Well,

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you know before the lockdown, I was doing all

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of that. I mean, you know there's probably been I'll

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find it or maybe I'll help you. Uh.

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You know. For the last one how many months, I've

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been at home months in March

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like everybody else. Um, and

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I've done a lot of walking

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in the woods, one of my favorite things

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to do. I've done a lot of rating

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and some writing. Uh. This was

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the big year that we were going to be solebrating

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the hundredth anniversary of American

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women finally getting

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the right to vote and working to support the

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groups that um I helped

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support through my organization onward

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together and then I get to spend time with my grandchildren,

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which I have to say is the biggest silver

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lining, Trevor, that you can imagine during

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this very difficult time. So,

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you know, we're I don't know what I do

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all day, but I'm exhausted everything. I

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feel like that's everyone in Corona. We're all we're all

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tired, and we don't we don't really know why. Um

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I do know that you've been really active in in you

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know, having your voice heard. One of the biggest

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things you've been passionate about is voting. It

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seems like America is on an ominous path

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to a November date when there's going to be a lot

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of questions in and around the election. Donald

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Trump is vehemently against mail in voting.

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What do you make of this and what do you think the path should

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be to getting people the easiest access

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to costing their votes. Republicans have

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uh two prongs to their strategy

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to try to win. The first is

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try to prevent as many people who they think

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won't vote for them from voting, so

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you know, make the lines really long

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where young people vote, or African

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Americans vote, or

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Hispanics vote. Uh, try

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to make a vote by mail as difficult

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as possible, claim it's fraudulent

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when indeed it's not. In fact, that's how

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Donald Trump votes and everybody

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who knows about vote by mail

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understands that. And so I've been working

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with a group called Democracy Docket, led

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by the lawyer Mark Elias,

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to help support the lawsuits that are

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being brought around the country just

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to make the vote available,

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you know, to make it clear that,

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look, let's have a fair election

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and that means as many people who are

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eligible citizens to go

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vote. Are you at all concerned

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about irregularities

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and voting or fraud? I mean, for instance,

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we saw the case in New Jersey I think it

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was a few weeks ago now where ironically

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it was some a councilman who

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I think was m was changing

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the votes for in Republicans

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favor. Is there a part of you that that is worried

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that Donald Trump would be able to use any

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of those stories to try and undermine the entire

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election and say, you see there's that one and there's

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that one. I don't think we should trust this election

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at all because it says that I've lost. Well,

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I think it is um a fair point

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to raise as to whether

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or not if he loses, UM,

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he's going to go quietly or not.

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Uh, and we have to be ready for that. But there have

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been so many academic

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studies and other analyzes

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which point out that it's just a it's

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a it's an inaccurate, fraudulent claim. There

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isn't that problem. All

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the games that are played and all of the

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photo I das and any kind

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of restriction that can be imposed to try

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to keep the vote down in places

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that aren't going to vote for Republicans. Uh.

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That's the real danger to the integrity

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of our election. That combined with misinformation

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and disinformation and all of

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the online shenanigans

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that we saw in So I'm

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look, I want a fair election. If people

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get to vote and they, for whatever

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reason vote for Donald

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Trump, okay, we'll accept

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it, not happily. But

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I don't think that's what will happen. Because I think

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the more people who can actually get

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to the polls, whether by mail or

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in person, and get their votes

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counted, then we are going

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to have the kind of election we should have. And

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then Uh, it will be a win both

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in the popular vote and in the electoral

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college. You um

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are the star and subject of

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a docuseries on Hulu, and

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for many people, I

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think, maybe even myself included, I

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saw a side of you that was

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refreshing and different and for lack

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of a better term, you to swag about you that

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not many people knew you had. You know,

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do you feel more free or is that is

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that just captured well in the documentary. Isn't that a part

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of you that goes like, you know what, I'm free, screw

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screw whatever. Yeah, there is,

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there's really a big part of that. And and

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and the documentary. Um, you know, I

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was interviewed for thirty five hours and

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yeah, and my feeling

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once I agreed to do the project was,

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you know, this is it. I you know, I'm not running

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for anything. I'm gonna just you

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know, say it like it is the best

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I can. Um. And a

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lot of people have said what you've said, my gosh,

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I never saw that side of her or whatever. And

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so you know, I I know that

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the pressures of being in public

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life and being misunderstood

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and being you know, kind of subjected

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to the attacks

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and the criticism. I know that it

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probably made me a little

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less available and open

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um and probably a little

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hunkered down, if you will. And my wife

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is a little bit like a raw shock test where

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you know, people who are comfortable with women

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seeking and holding power being

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outspoken, you know, see it

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and think, oh my gosh, well yeah, of course, and

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then people who aren't, maybe they'll you

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know, begin to, you know, think differently

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about that. Many women have said that they've said

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Hillary Clinton got further and did more

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than I ever did to think was possible.

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If there's if there's another Hillary out there who's

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running and beginning her journey, what would you

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warn her about or tell her to try and

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look out for to just give

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her a little advantage in the world where she desperately

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needs it. You will be criticized no

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matter what you do, um,

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and so take criticism seriously

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because sometimes your critics actually

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can teach you something. But don't

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take it personally. Don't let it

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eat away at you. Don't let it knock

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you down and keep you down. The women who

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I admire that you know, Chelsea, and I wrote that book

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about God. See, women are women who are

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not just in it for themselves. Whatever

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it is that motivates you have

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something bigger than yourself that

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is going to get you up in the morning and keep

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going because it can be brutal

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out there, It can be incredibly

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difficult. You can be called a nasty

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woman for heaven's sakes. Um So

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what you've got to do is just believe

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not just in yourself alone, but

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in what you're trying to do for others, and

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that will keep you motivated

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no matter what. Let me ask you this

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question is are you now ready

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to wear a mosk? Now that Donald Trump has

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finally put one on? I'm assuming you

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just haven't been wearing one waiting for this moment.

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Yeah. No, I mean I've actually been

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wearing one, And uh,

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I think you know better late than

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never, I guess. Uh. My daughter

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had a great tweet which I retweeted,

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where she said, look, I'm not being sarcastic.

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If he would sell masks

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with his face on him and go ahead

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and make the money, at least it would send

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a good message. So now that he

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has been seen once in a mask, maybe

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uh, those people who still, you know, take

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their cues from him will similarly

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start wearing masks because we're in a desperate

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situation again, Trevor. I mean, look,

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I mean Florida, if it were an individual

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country right now, would have the fourth

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highest rate in the world after

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the overall US and Brazil,

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India. So, uh, you know, we

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are a long way from getting this under

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control. But there's no denying that every country,

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once they got an idea of what the coronavirus

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was, handled it differently. When

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you look back at the way America handled

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it once people understood how severe this was.

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Where do you think President

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Trump went wrong or where do you think a

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good president would have done something differently?

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Well, I I think you have to start

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with President

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Trump's UH total

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hostility towards science, evidence,

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facts, logic. Reason. He

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is a showman, He is a reality

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TV star. He likes

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to try to bend reality to suit

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his own UH preferences.

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And he clearly started hearing

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about this back in January through

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intelligence briefings that he either read or

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he didn't read. But even before

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that, he had disbanded the UH

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unit within the National Security Council

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that would try to get ahead of and follow

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the development of pandemics abroad.

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He had really made it clear

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that he was more interested in

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the optics than the facts.

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When the virus first hit,

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and he kept saying, you know, we have fifteen cases,

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it'll be over soon. So you've

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got to begin and end with his

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total lack of leadership

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is indifference towards what this

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virus has cost us, not only in lives,

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but in jobs and livelihoods,

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and now. Of course he doesn't want to

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hear from our leading infectious

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disease experts like Dr Fauci.

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He doesn't want to hold the even

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the sham of the meetings that he used

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to hold to try to talk about it. He's

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he's helping that it either goes

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away or it leaves our attention

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spans so that he can get back

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to, you know, pretending to be president.

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You you very rightfully call him a showman.

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I mean that's something we all acknowledge. Donald Trump has

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an uncanny ability to put on a show and

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just really you know, suck all of the

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attention that the media wants to give

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him. There has to be a part of you that that,

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you know, I guess is

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is a little angry at that, because I mean, when

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you're running for president, A lot of it

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in America, specifically is about putting on the

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show. Do you do sometimes wish

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there was like a like a test that you'd have

10:51

to write? Is there something because you're sitting at home

10:53

and you have so many of these answers and you've studied

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so hard, but really you've got You got

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beaten by a showman who just knew how to

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win the ratings. How do you feel about

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that when you see what America is going through now? Well,

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it breaks my heart because I

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tried to warn people um during

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the campaign that he was not fit

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for the office, he wasn't prepared for the office,

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that his

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his his appeals to the basest

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instincts among us was really

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setting us up for even more divisiveness.

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And then I saw it literally from the

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inauguration forward. Um,

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I take no pleasure in that, because, look,

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I want to root for America. I want to root

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for anybody who's our president. It's

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just hard to see what he's

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done to the office, his undermining

11:39

of our institutions, his his absolute

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disregard for the rule of law, and

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I think you're right that it

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is. It's painful for me,

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Um, but I think for many Americans who

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expected better, even people

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who voted for him. UH expected

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him to rise to the job, and

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increasingly that has become,

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you know, just impossible to expect

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any longer. I have to ask

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you about Roger Stone. Help

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me understand he why

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do presidents or should presidents have

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the power to pardon anybody, especially someone

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who relates it to them in a case? And

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secondly, what precedents

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could Trump be setting for America slash

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Do you think it's going to be a precedent where a

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president says I will pardon

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anybody who protects me by

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not snitching. Well, I think you

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just summed up why Roger Stone

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was pardoned. I mean, he basically threatened

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Trump. You know, he basically

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said, I sure don't want to go to jail, and I should

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have a lot more to say, and boy,

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I just wish there'd be somebody you could stop me from

12:47

having to go to jail. And guess what, you

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know, Trump intervened. This

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is an extension of the

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total disregard for the rule of law.

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The pardon power is supposed

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to be used or compassionate

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purposes, um to

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try to right wrongs, to try to

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make sure that people are not

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being punished unfairly or have been

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punished enough. And

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in this case, it's a continuation

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of the cover up, because the one thing that Trump

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is fearful of when

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it comes to his being president is that finally

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we will see how illegitimate his victory

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actually was, and how

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he was involved in UH

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the UH seeking of foreign

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help and then the utilization

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of it, and how roger Stone was critical

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to that. But you know, unless

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Trump is defeated at the polls in

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November, we will never really

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know everything there is to know about

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this really deep ongoing

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UH dismantling

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of institutions and undermining

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the rule of law and the original

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sin of the way that he actually

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won the election. So roger

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Stone was in the middle of it all and

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that's why you know Trump had to

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cover it up. Well. Secretary

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Clinton, thank you so much for taking the time today. UM,

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I hope you enjoyed the gardening, your walks in the woods,

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and hopefully you'll be back out in the streets

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saying I told you so sooner than later. I'll

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look forward to that, Trevor, and stay healthy

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and stay safe yourself. We'll do. Thank

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