What if chasing happiness actually leaves you feeling unhappy? In the last episode of our Hunt for Happiness series, Nikki talks to Emily Esfahani Smith about how pursuing meaning in different ways can actually lead to a happier life.

Learn more about Emily’s work and take her Pillars of Meaning quiz on her website: emilyesfahanismith.com 

Snag your own copy of The Power of Meaning on Amazon

Watch Emily’s TED Talk: There’s More to Life Than Being Happy

Follow Emily on Twitter: @EmEsfahaniSmith

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