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to netsuite.com/briefing. Welcome
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to the Daily Stoic Podcast. On Friday,
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we do double duty, not just reading
1:51
our daily meditation, but also reading a
1:53
passage from the Daily Stoic. My book,
1:56
366 Meditations on Wisdom, Perseverance. in
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the Heart of Living, which I wrote
2:02
with my wonderful collaborator, translator, and
2:05
literary agent, Steven Hanselman. So today
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we'll give you a quick meditation
2:09
from the Stoics with some analysis
2:11
from me, and then we'll send
2:13
you out into the world to turn these
2:15
words into works. This
2:28
is a very important decision. Yes,
2:31
Mark has really said you should
2:33
not have to need to retreat, to get away from it
2:35
all. Yes, he said we're supposed
2:38
to find something we love and wear ourselves down doing
2:40
it. Yet he also seemed to
2:42
know that this was unhealthy because in another spot
2:44
in meditations, he says that in
2:46
life you can't be all about business. He
2:48
knew that we needed balance in our lives, outlets
2:51
for our stress and our passions, whether they were
2:53
sports or hunting or journaling or taking walks outdoors.
2:56
Even meditation or reflection was a way to do
2:58
that, a way to reach utter stillness. As
3:01
the actor Alexander Ludwig, who's in Vikings and the
3:03
Hunger Games and Lone Survivor, he talked about this
3:05
recently on the Daily Soap podcast, which you should
3:07
listen to if you haven't heard his episode. He
3:10
said, sometimes the only way to not be all
3:12
about business is to get away from it. Throughout
3:15
the episode, Ludwig talked about how stoicism has
3:17
helped him get and stay sober. In
3:19
addition to stoicism, we have in the program one
3:21
of the best choices he made, he said, was
3:23
leaving Los Angeles and moving to
3:26
Austin, Texas. This is what he said. Lauren
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and I am a wife. We've never been to
3:31
Austin, and I heard such amazing things. Once we
3:33
got here, it was just like, oh
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man, I feel like this is how life was back
3:38
in the 70s. Or
3:41
like back before everything, it's just you
3:43
go to certain places, like even this
3:45
town, I'm just like, are you kidding
3:47
me? Like right over the fucking bookstore?
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Like this is incredible. Like I love
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this. And it's funny, Hollywood, I feel
3:53
like creates the illusion of competition. Sure.
3:56
Like social media. Yes. Whereas in
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reality, it's not as competitive. as
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people make it out to be. There
4:02
are roles that I am so right for
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and there will be a very few other
4:07
guys my age, my type that are right
4:09
for that. In that sense, I guess you
4:11
could say we're competing against each other. But
4:14
in reality, it's not that.
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And I think that there's
4:18
this feeling of totally perpetuated
4:20
by insecurities of
4:22
just I have to one up, I have to act better,
4:25
I have to be better, and it's just, that's
4:28
not the father I wanna be, I wanna be this, the husband I wanna be, this is
4:30
not the man I wanna be. Notice how Ludwood
4:32
kept saying, for me, for some Los Angeles
4:34
is the perfect place. For some
4:36
living in Hollywood and being steeped in the film
4:38
industry is a dream. For some, being
4:40
surrounded by the competition is great fuel. Ideally,
4:43
we could be home anywhere and sometimes in
4:45
our lives, we have to be. But
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finding the place where you're the best version of
4:50
yourself, which brings out stillness
4:53
rather than frenzy, virtue rather than
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vice, it's an
4:57
important decision. That's why I
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live here in Texas. It's not
5:01
a perfect place, I don't love everything about it. But
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it was better for me, healthier for me
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than how I was living in
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California or New York or other places. So
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life's too short to live somewhere you don't want
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to live if you don't have to. So that's
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the message of today's podcast. And do listen to
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Alexander's wonderful episode on the Daily Stove podcast. If
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you missed it, I'll link to it in today's
5:23
show notes. Hey,
5:31
it's Ryan. Today's episode
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is from the
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Daily Stoic, May
5:38
3rd show, not tell
5:41
what you know. I'm holding
5:43
the Daily Stove, 366
5:46
meditations on wisdom, perseverance in the heart of living.
5:49
It's probably annoying that I'm always saying the title, but you
5:51
know what? Every time we post about this book on Instagram,
5:53
people go, oh, what book is that? As
5:56
if it's not the book that kicked off the whole thing. So I
5:58
try to take... the
6:01
humility in remembering that even
6:03
though I have lived and breathed this book and
6:05
these ideas for a very long time
6:07
they're new to many people and maybe they're
6:09
even new to you listening
6:11
right now so you can grab the book audiobook
6:14
physical we have a cool leather edition
6:17
and I read one of
6:20
the entries every Friday as part of the
6:22
podcast and so I'm gonna
6:24
bring you this entry which starts with
6:26
a quote from Epictetus's discourses he
6:29
says those who receive the bear theories
6:31
immediately want to spew them as an
6:33
upset stomach does its food first
6:36
digest your theories and you won't throw them up
6:38
he says otherwise they
6:40
will be raw and spoiled and not nourishing
6:42
after you've digested them show us the
6:45
changes in your reason choices just
6:47
like the soldiers of gymnasts display their
6:49
diet and training and as the
6:51
craft of artisans show what they've
6:54
learned many of the
6:56
stoic aphorisms are simple to remember and even
6:58
sound smart when quoted but
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that's not what philosophy is really about the goal
7:03
is to turn these words into works
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as mousonius rufus that was Epictetus's
7:09
teacher as
7:12
he put it the justification for
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philosopher is when one brings together
7:16
sound teachings sound
7:18
conduct today or any time
7:20
when you catch yourself wanting to condescendingly
7:22
drop some knowledge that you have grabbed
7:25
and asked would I be better saying
7:27
the words or letting my actions and
7:29
choices illustrate that knowledge for
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me so a couple
7:34
thoughts here as we kick this around number
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one I think mousonius rufus was
7:38
a guy who walked the walk in addition
7:40
to talking the talk this is a guy
7:43
first off who teaches at petitus I mean
7:45
he's a philosophy teacher he's known as the
7:47
Roman Socrates a wise powerful important dude and
7:50
here he is teaching a slave no discrimination no
7:53
judgment In fact, he makes
7:55
Epictetus into his greatest student and he also
7:57
teaches women. He was very ahead of his
7:59
time. Rights is fascinating essay
8:01
about how women are just as
8:04
capable of virtue as men and
8:06
should be taught philosophy and excellence.
8:09
But most only roof exiled four
8:11
times three we know for certain
8:13
for with speculate about but he
8:16
deals. With. An.
8:18
Injustice he deals with difficulty does with
8:20
observe it. diversity. All
8:23
these things he talks about, he has
8:25
to put into practice apparatus. of course
8:27
we know this without question, but. What?
8:30
I sort of think about when I.
8:33
Think. About this are actually want to go back to
8:35
send them for second to you know I said that
8:37
The Common: The Roman Socrates. Talked about
8:39
this before, but. The socrates
8:41
isn't write anything down. What?
8:44
He left behind was his example
8:46
right. His example is so compelling
8:48
that it it it makes for
8:50
great writing by Plato. But.
8:52
Socrates is a philosopher because of
8:54
how he lived because of what
8:56
he did. In. The room
8:59
in conversations with people. not what he.
9:01
Not. Poring over his notebooks and writing
9:04
and rewriting and all that. He
9:06
was a philosopher because of how we
9:08
lived. In fact, that great. Still,
9:10
A keto. Gives. Us a
9:12
similar an example apathy. This himself was
9:15
a teacher yes, but he doesn't write
9:17
any books. it's what he told his
9:19
students and how he lived to survive
9:21
down to us into form of lecture
9:24
notes. That's what Marx really sweet and
9:26
that's what we have now in Discourses
9:28
In Encouraging. But I just think about
9:30
this with my own understanding of Stosur
9:33
that so I read Marx Willis in
9:35
my. Late teens eighteen,
9:37
two years old and I
9:39
saw writing about it immediately.
9:41
I was immediately regurgitating it
9:43
out because it was the
9:45
smartest, most interesting, thought provoking,
9:47
challenging eye opening stuff I've
9:49
ever read. But. It took
9:52
many, many years. For. The
9:54
ideas to firmly take whole deputy. The
9:56
sucks that are Seneca talkspace, ideas winning
9:58
from whole the new. Line of
10:01
that the. Brilliance
10:03
of the rioting in the phrasing,
10:05
than that, the humor and this
10:07
wisdom. all that immediately hits the
10:09
i get that immediately but it
10:11
takes a lot hunger for it.
10:15
Warm. It's way into my Dna
10:17
into my life. A dog about this
10:19
in the afterward of the Justice both
10:21
that I'm doing now at about this
10:23
in the in right thing right now
10:25
that the the third book in the
10:27
purchasers the Justice but which is coming
10:29
out in June you can pre order
10:31
that now everywhere. Of course I'm but
10:33
but. I
10:35
don't think I could have written that book. In
10:39
my twenties. I don't even know if I
10:42
could have written it in my early thirties
10:44
and even know if I could have written
10:46
it three years ago, right? It took a
10:48
long time to hard one experiences. It
10:50
took. Them. That's the
10:52
thing about stoicism I guess is one of the
10:55
things the same the afterwards is it's working on
10:57
you as you are working on it. And
10:59
what epic t this is saying and what
11:02
ultimately the stoics want you to understand is
11:04
that steadying stoicism. Talking about stoicism thinking about
11:06
says is reading about says it all. His
11:08
stuff is great. As. Part
11:11
of the. First.
11:14
Episode: Take Time and Patience and
11:16
seventy plenty of work to turn
11:18
those words into works. Which. Is
11:21
the whole point of the floss
11:23
exposed to translate down. To.
11:25
The caught so interesting quotes remarks
11:27
rose about temper or about anxiety.
11:30
Those hit me at twenty. But.
11:32
It took a long time. Me too
11:34
I'm going to should have put it
11:36
took me awhile to actually start applying
11:38
that stuff to start acting differently to
11:41
let it really get into my system
11:43
and so I would just. If
11:45
you feel like you've been standing with Stephen talking about
11:47
and sing Humana for a while and it's just. You.
11:50
Know know there's a difference, yet give
11:52
it time. You know it's working on
11:54
you as you are working on it
11:56
and I'm. At
11:58
the same time I would say cheap. Working on
12:00
it Great. Actually actively try
12:02
to get it. In. There are
12:05
mm When I was doing jiu jitsu,
12:07
I went one time I was working
12:09
out of the Brazilian Jujitsu gym. it's
12:11
it on the New York City and
12:13
the professor says moonlight. You
12:15
Gotta com. Everyday was something specific. You're trying
12:17
to work on. something specific you want to
12:19
take out of it. I. Think
12:21
weekend of stoicism that way to what am
12:24
I trying to get out of this or
12:26
am really working on what am I trying
12:28
to translate into conduct today? It's not trying
12:30
to reinvent myself, change everything. I'm trying to
12:32
really get it into my system. And.
12:34
I want to try to act and behave differently
12:36
as a result of what I'm learning here. That's.
12:39
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12:41
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