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Hello the Internet, and welcome to

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Season one sixty nine, Episode four of j

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Dailies. Nice to production of

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I Heart Radio. This is a podcast

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where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness.

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Is Thursday, January one.

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My name is Jack O'Brien, a K I

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show my thighs. I'm blind.

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The guests here to record

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the pod. That's the best because

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my name is Jack O'Brien. I'm

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gonna host the pod called Daily's

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I Geist that

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is courtesy of Johnny Davis

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off of Spirit in the Sky, which we discussed

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on yesterday's episode. Uh,

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and I'm thrilled to be joined as

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always buy my co host, Mr Miles

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Grady.

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Day is the greatest

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day. Yeah

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tomorrow because

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Chomp's are gone. We one

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in him out so

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he voted him da

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da damn boom dapped. When the song goes,

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shout out to copy Colisi on

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Twitter for that Billy Korg smash

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Pumpy a k a um

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yeah great. My friends sister

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was in that video. Yo.

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That ship was legendary at my school. They're

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like your carries in the video in

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the wheel in the Rubber Tiger. Were

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you uh you were a smash Puppy. Uh

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when the Smash Pumpies were out there were you Yeah,

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yeah, for sure, I think, and then

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Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness Broo

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when I had some heartaches in college, fucking

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screaming at my radio to that one. But

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then, you know, after that, not not much.

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I haven't really kept up with them since Billy Corgan

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went took a right turn, Yeah

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hard right. Yeah. Uh, Well,

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we are thrilled to be joined

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by the hilarious and talented

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Mr Mike Drucker. Hello,

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Hello. I didn't know singing would be involved,

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so I didn't plan anything. Well

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that's that now we started off on the wrong

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foot. I did

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kind of though, like I kind of wanted. I thought

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it would be funny if you guys just kept switching back and forth between

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songs and never introduced me like you did

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that for ninety minutes. It was just a

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huge prank. And then we just and

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the show and we're like, so, what do you think, man, any

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of those any good? Can we sell those? Yea A

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awards? What do you think from that perspective? Variety

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Award? Off that off the trink of that? Oh

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man, that trophy is so ugly it's such an ugly

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trophy. Uh,

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all right, yeah, thank you for

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being on. I'm a big fan of you

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on Twitter, which is

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a platform we are both on. Uh.

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We are going we're going

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to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, and

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h I'm going to ask you to explain

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the stock market to me. H, just

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bare bones. But first

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we're gonna talk about a couple of things we're talking

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about. In addition to Reddit

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coming for Wall Street uh and

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me just failing to understand

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how that works, We're gonna talk about

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acquittal two fascist boogaloo,

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where we're standing on that. We're gonna

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talk about Foxes strategy, how

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they're what their angle is heading

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into the Biden administration. The James

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Bond movie is being delayed

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again, so we'll talk about

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that. We'll talk about Ellen

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maybe uh if we get to it.

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We'll talk about the Hall of Presidents at

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Disney World, all of that plenty

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more. But first, Mike, we like to ask our guests,

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what is something from your search history that's

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revealing about who you are? My? Uh,

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okay, so I released

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a book about a video game yester, and so my last

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few searches are like Mike Drucker Silent

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Hill to Mike Drucker Silent Hill to reviews. So

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it's really narcissism, Like my most recent

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search history is narcissism about whether people

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hate a book about a video game or not. Right.

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Oh no, I was gonna say the Silent

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Hill too. I mean, I feel like everybody

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likes it based on I've seen passively

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about your writings on what you I

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mean, Silent Hill two is one of those games

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where like I didn't realize what

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I had till after the fact. Yes,

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yes, that's exactly right. It's so good.

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Yeah, and like, yeah I haven't I'm I'm

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definitely gonna read it. Part of me was like, damn, I should

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have asked him that I wanted to read that ship before he came

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on. Uh yeah, I'm so. People

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like it. People are working with the vision. Um

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do you think but for something like when you write about

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a video game that you love and like its

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place, Yeah, other people's opinions,

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can they really affect you at that point because you have to

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be so like you're like, you're so secure

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and what's your statement is that it's like I've

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got that out here, You're not seeing the matrix like I am,

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um, yeah, some sometimes, I mean it also

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sometimes helps you expand a bit. Like you know, there's

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times I've seen people's opinions where I'm

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like, oh, I didn't think of that specific thing, and that's

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a good point. So it doesn't like make me dislike

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it. It's not like if someone's like this game, Like a lot of the reviews

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at the time it came out were kind of lukewarm

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and saying it wasn't as good as the first one. So

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it doesn't affect my opinion. But I do like hearing what

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other people think because it was a divisive game at the time.

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And the name of the book is Silent

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Hill too. You just went

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with you just kind

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of you

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just like kind of pitched the idea of the book

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to to our listeners real quick. Oh sure,

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Um it's this. Uh, A lot

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of listeners might be more familiar with those thirty

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three and the third books, and each one's about a specific

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album, and this is kind of that. But it's a line

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of books called Boss Fight Books, and each book is about a

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different video game. Um. So this is

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the seven book in the series and the only one

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I've written. Just

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to be clear, I didn't write all twenty seven right,

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nice? All right? What

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is something you think is underrated? Um?

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Underrated? I think are like

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desk accessories. I think people just throw random

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things on their desk, and I think you really need to cultivate

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it. If you have like fifty fun copops,

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it's bad. If you have nothing on your

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desk, you look crazy. It's it's a

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really careful cultivation process that I'm

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still working on. Yeah, I

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don't know why that was my first thought, but it was. I

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think because I'm always in my bedroom at

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my desk that I'm like, I spend so much

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time thinking about this, yeah, looking at

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the same thing. Basically, I think

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that is your reality as the desk exactly

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what do you? Well? What do you have on your desk? Let's do a little

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show and tell. What do you go? Let's see show and tell. All right,

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Now it's a little messy now because I moved things around

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to set up to record, But I have a Ninja

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Turtles little melted pops. Whoa

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got got that I got? Let's

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see? I have a card

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board Nintendo Labo keyboard

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ship damn ye yeah

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yeah, and then I have a fact

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man O whoa wow.

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So I get it, we get it. We're not going to question

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your game, your interest in gaming based on ye

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please don't question that. That is the one thing

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you can solidly say in your eighties and nineties

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baby culture, with the with the with

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the teenage mutant industry ice cream. I have uh

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weed weed

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yep, good, good good weed

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yep. Also good a grinder,

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honestly all better than mine. So far this

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is better than mine. Then I have a miniature

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sloth in which

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is also weed, yeah, which is a weed. And

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then it's uh, this thing that's like a snail

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but it has an ed a mom a thing as it's show.

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Is that a is that art? Is that like

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something? I got it out of a gotcha machine

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in Japan? So gotchap was like a It's like a thing you

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get in Japan. You put like a hundred yen two

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hundred yen and you twisted out a plastic

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toy comes out. And when

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I go out there, you know, on my annual

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trips, I'm typically have a

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handful of change, and I'm like, let's say, I'm gonna

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hit this gotch up on really quick. And so I got

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this slot and my little snail

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and so those are like art

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pieces next to my weed. Um,

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I guess it's up to me now to complete

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the I've got a roll

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of tape, yeah, uh,

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got an empty coffee uh,

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some rolled up paper

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towel, pack

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of gum glasses.

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Yeah, so nailing

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it. And also a old Mac that

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I'm supposed to uh clear

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off. But oh that iMac

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from two thousand fucking that

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was my first computer when I started

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correct was this computer and it's

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it. I just plugged it in for the first time

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in like twelve years, and it still

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works and has all this stuff on it. So I think

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we're we're gonna give it away

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but clear it off. Yeah.

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I feel like old Max weirdly do well on eBay.

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Like people. I feel

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like I looked up like an old laptop once and

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they don't like go full price or anything, but they I

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feel like they go weirdly well on eBay. Huh.

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Yeah. I had somebody I for like

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a production I did. I had an old iMac

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like an o G like Launch when

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they have flavors. I had a blueberry iMac

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that I my mom just does not throw

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sh it away, And I remember I needed a prop

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for this like video we were doing. I was like, oh, let me get

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this. I had three people at this convention

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offer me cash for it. It

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was like exorbitant sums of money. But

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three people were like, oh my god, that can

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I can I buy that off of you. I love like old

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like retro turn of the century max stuff

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century. When

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I was in Denmark, I went to the design

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of like Danish design museum, the

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iMac is in their line an exhibit

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like to be like heralded as like this real

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like turning point in design. So I was

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like, damn, Like maybe maybe we were

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sleeping on that. But I

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need I need some This is a new desk

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for me in the past like a few weeks, and I need

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to I need to spruce it

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up a little bit, give it a little bit of personality.

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Right now, it is purely task oriented

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and garbage oriented. Uh.

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I also have a just really

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like old Ralph's shopping bags

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that I throw my trash and just hanging from

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the mic stand. Uh So really

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I'm not I'm not following

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the path that one

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should be to keep their space from

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polluting their brain. Um, but

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hey, this is a good reminder and I appreciate

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it. Mike, what is something you think is

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overrated? Um?

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I had trouble thinking of something that's overrated.

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But one thing that I think is

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overrated because I'm scared of it's owning a house.

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I feel like I'd rather prefer to think of it

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as like that's overrated then actually engage

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in something that terrifies me. I'm

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big too, honestly, like Star Wars,

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like it

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said, I was like, I don't know, having a baby is that overrated?

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Let's talk about it? Yeah, I'm

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going to I'm sorry. The city are you in, Mike, New

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York? I'm in New York? Yeah, because

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I feel like, did you where did you

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grow up? I grew up in South Florida though, okay,

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so because I feel like I know like people

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who like I have friends who grew up in New York who have

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the very like that block of like home

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thing. But it has the city

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changed your outlook on that, Like has that influenced

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your feeling of it being overrated? Or I

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think it's more that my parents were bad

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with money when I was a kid, and so for me, I was always

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like, what's the point of doing this? It still seems

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like it doesn't you know, it seems like you don't really own the

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house, not realizing my parents were

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very bad with money at that moment that

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it wasn't like it wasn't just like the bank showing

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up being like, hey guys, we decided we wanted

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back right, this is overrated

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mom. As

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a kid, that's how I felt like. I was almost like, why do

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we all? Why did you buy this? So

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I think it's like it's less than it is really overrated,

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but something that like in my fad almost I always

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had a mental block on and I'm like, no, nobody,

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that's not real. Yeah, absolutely,

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I just love that idea. Yeah

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they I don't know why they kept making the same mistake.

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Really, that's how I felt. Well, that's

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also the speaks of the power of like how much

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of our financial literacy and idea

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of finances just comes from our parents. Like

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I have parents who didn't make a lot

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of money but also didn't talk about it, so I

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just grew up being like I don't know, I think you work and

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then and then like you

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could have a kid, but I can't

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always have new shoes, so there's

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level to it. But no one's like you gotta

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save and my dad like not until I was

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out of college, and I was like, yeah, man, like

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the second I got married, I started to save him for your college.

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I was like, what, I never

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you didn't tell me. I'm I'm sitting here with

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nine thousand dollar sneakers on and

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you're telling me now I gotta say, fuck, I'm

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all fucked up nine dollars.

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I don't have no nine times. Well do you think I was at the

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fucking inauguration and those deal with Jordan's

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no. Uh, yeah,

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I'm fully financially

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illiterate, as we're about to learn when we discuss

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uh, wall Street, you

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didn't big on games to the point that I'm

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very similar with Wall Street. I like resent

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wall Street. I'm like, this is all just like made

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up lingo bullshit fuck off.

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And I feel like a lot of America's that way.

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And that's where uh, some of

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this is coming from. But let's take

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a quick break and we'll come back and talk about that and

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we're back. Uh. And So

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I read an article this morning, which

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is where my entire understanding of this comes

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from, on Bloomberg dot Com

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that uh covers this story from

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a Wall Street perspective with like amused

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tolerance. It's like they keep commenting

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on the juvenile tone of the subreddit

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and making fun of the spelling errors. But

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zoom out real quick, let people know what we're

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even tough because most people like this

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only started beginning. People started talking about

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the last day, and if you're not fully

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your ear to the internet, you might not know what happened. Right,

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So, yeah, Miles, the

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floor is yours. Why don't you explain? Yeah,

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as the resident guy who just admitted he knows

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funk all about finances, I'm gonna toss this

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pot potato over to Michael Drucker. Hello,

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Hello, Uh Now, keep

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in mind that I'm going explain some of this wrong

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so someone will listen to this and go, that's

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not what's happening, and that's okay. You're right and

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you have been so.

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Basically, game Stop, the stock itself

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has been suffering for about a decade because nobody

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wants to buy video games and person any more. People order

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games off Amazon, they order them digitally. You know, people

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wait in line for a PlayStation five. But game stop, if

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you've been inside a sort of a dying store. So

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the stock price over the last decade or so

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has gone down super low to the

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point where I think it was somewhere like in the single

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digits at one point, but right before this it was I

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think like seventeen dollars or so. And

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there's this Reddit group called Wall

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Street Bets, and what Wall Street Bets

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is is basically them saying, like them picking

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stock to sort of like an informal Reddit

15:44

group full of stock memes, but they kind of encourage

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each other to do things. And what they sort of realized was

15:48

because game Stop stock

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is so bad that a lot of hedge funds were shorting

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it. And shorting

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it is where I'm bad at explaining things. Basically,

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it's what happens kind of in trading

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places explanation.

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They put a bet that it will go down,

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that it will lose money. It's basically putting

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your money on them. You're

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saying, basically, I will buy it for

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full price because it will whatever um.

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And then the so what they did was the

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Reddit threat. They decided, let's all buy

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it, so kind of like

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a legal pump and dump scam, sort of like back in

16:25

the day when people try to pump penny stocks up by like

16:28

everyone buy the penny stocks and then they dumped them immediately.

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Um that's what they did. They pumped

16:33

up game Stop stock, and because they were all buying it, everyone

16:35

starts buying it. And as is the case with the stock market,

16:38

because nothing makes sense, the more people who

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bought it, the more people were willing to

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spend on it, to the point where it's now worth like three hundred

16:44

dollars um. What that did

16:47

was it basically bankrupted a bunch of head fund

16:49

hedge funds that were like, did not expect

16:51

to have to owe three hundred dollars per

16:53

stock Stop Stop that they bought

16:55

for seventeen dollars or bought even

16:57

cheaper or whatever. So,

17:01

yeah, they owe a lot of money. Yeah,

17:03

it's the head funds do. Which now

17:06

the conversation, uh, that

17:08

you're seeing is like the Biden administration

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is thinking about like bail or

17:12

at least considering the question of whether

17:14

they should bail out some of these head funds.

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Which so the thing

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that is exciting to me about this is

17:22

not I don't think it's a good a good time to

17:24

now invest in game Stop because it

17:28

seems like that's that's how some people

17:30

are taking it, and uh, it seems

17:32

like the jig is up a little bit, like the

17:35

people. Yeah, like once it becomes

17:37

a national news story, that's when

17:40

it's probably not a good idea

17:42

to to put your money on it. But just

17:45

the idea that a stock

17:48

valuation can be completely

17:50

independent from reality is

17:53

something that I think we It's

17:55

almost like it works as

17:58

a as satire of

18:00

like what has happened in the stock market for

18:02

the past year, uh, with with

18:05

the pandemic and businesses

18:07

like downsize and going out of

18:09

business, firing people. Uh,

18:12

you know, it being for the

18:14

average American one of the worst economic

18:16

times ever and then the stock

18:19

market being at

18:21

its peak like peeking and not you

18:23

know, taking any of the damage on

18:26

and so like the idea that they were like, let's

18:28

just do that, but to one stock and

18:31

funck over some of the people who have been benefiting

18:34

off of that, like in a very vague

18:36

way where I don't understand

18:38

any of the dynamics. Uh,

18:41

superproducer on a Hosnie understands

18:43

the stock market and has kind

18:46

of tried to explain it to me, and I,

18:48

uh my brain resists it. It's like I'm

18:51

allergic to uh understanding

18:53

it. But it's Uh,

18:56

they're they're just in a turn in a broad

18:58

narrative sense. The idea that

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they are satirizing

19:03

the stock market, well putting a bunch

19:06

of billionaires uh in financial

19:08

trouble is is interesting

19:11

to me. Yeah. The secondary thing

19:13

is watching like the fomo play out though,

19:15

because that's where it gets dicey, you

19:17

know, like like I was saying before we went on Mike,

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Like, there are also in all

19:23

the numerous interviews that came out of the story,

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like there were people who saw what happened Monday

19:28

when it was like when it was already

19:30

taking off and got in or like I put in

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all my savings and I

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put four thousand dollars

19:37

into it, and then they realized where they were

19:39

at and they're like, oh ship, they had to sell it off and

19:41

they ended up losing like six hundred bucks. But they're

19:43

saying like, if I hadn't actually realized that, I

19:46

would have lost all of my money trying

19:48

to just play this like like not knowing

19:51

enough about the stock market and just seeing what I saw

19:53

on Reddit and reacting to that. So it's

19:56

definitely it's interesting to see who who

19:58

can benefit from it, who gets sort of like sucked

20:00

into the momentum of like wanting to play the game

20:03

without knowing and then yeah

20:05

to Anna, Josane was

20:08

trying to explain to me this morning,

20:10

like what it made me think of.

20:13

So in Shawshank Redemption, when

20:15

Andy Dufrain like locks himself

20:17

in the office and plays the music even

20:19

though he knows he's going to get his ass kicked by

20:22

the warden, it's kind

20:24

of like that is like how I think

20:26

of what they're doing is they're like fun

20:30

these people, and we know it's going to

20:32

blow up in our face. But there's

20:35

a lot of people who are now getting in and

20:37

who are going to lose their their

20:39

money. So it's almost like if everybody

20:41

who heard the music also got the ship kicked

20:43

out of them, which makes us scene not

20:46

quite as cool. It's like not great

20:48

if he's risking everybody else's

20:50

safety, right, No, exactly,

20:52

And also like you know, there's people

20:55

on that Reddit threat who were in early enough where

20:57

they made a crazy amount of money and they're

20:59

probably like I would get out right now as

21:02

the fools are coming in. It's which really it

21:05

is. There's like I'm not as worried

21:07

about those redditors as I am worried about like our

21:09

parents and grandparents who are like, oh, I

21:12

remember games, all right, I'll put

21:14

I'll put eight thousand dollars and you know what I mean, Like

21:16

that's what worries me. Yeah, I

21:19

mean Wall Street is inherently

21:21

predatory, and there's

21:23

always there, always has to be somebody

21:25

who's a loser, right, who's going to

21:28

lose out? And you

21:30

can almost guarantee that it's not going

21:32

to be the hedge fund billionaires in the end,

21:35

like it maybe in the short run, or

21:37

they cynically start like co opting this reddit

21:39

to start manipulating the markets through like

21:42

redditors, you know what I mean, and really

21:44

be like no, but this is how we gonna make move. This is the

21:46

new game. I mean

21:48

really, that's that's possible too, is people just go,

21:50

Okay, this is what I gotta do. I create a person online

21:53

and try to put my own stocks. Yeah,

21:55

I mean, like it is sort of the I

21:59

think the people in that subreddit

22:01

would hope, like, well they couldn't learn to

22:04

like authentically, Like it's the sort of

22:06

authenticity thing where

22:08

that's the thing you can't

22:10

fake that corporations are constantly

22:13

trying to fake, like trying to find a way

22:15

to sponsor people who speak

22:17

authentically and who communicate

22:20

meaning to people authentically. But yeah,

22:22

I think the overall reason

22:25

people are super excited about this is

22:27

because it seems like

22:30

what like a a very

22:33

real sort of dynamic illustration

22:35

of the haves and have nots, and like that the

22:37

breakdown in what the

22:39

stock market is supposed to do, which

22:41

is rep you know, represent

22:44

value in some real world way, and

22:47

now it's currently like a game being played

22:49

by mostly very wealthy

22:52

people and they're able to fix the rules

22:54

to insulate themselves from, uh,

22:57

you know, any sort of representation the value.

23:00

I just wanna read what on

23:02

a road like explaining what shorting

23:05

is, uh, And so she

23:07

said, shorting is when you borrow shares and

23:09

then you sell immediately, in which then you

23:11

can grab them later for a lower price, give

23:13

them back to who you borrowed them from originally,

23:16

and then you pocket the difference. Like that

23:20

couldn't be further from making sense

23:22

to me. So dumb

23:25

when it comes to this market Watch

23:27

story is not helping when I Google

23:29

is sharing sharing, and that's why I'm

23:31

like, fuck it, I'm gonna I'm gonna just deal with

23:34

meme stocks. Now for the lolls. I

23:38

I. Yeah, I've had shorting explained to me so

23:40

many times, including in movie form by

23:43

Adam McKay, and I it's

23:46

almost like looking at a photograph in West World where

23:48

I'm just like, this doesn't look like anything to me, Like I don't

23:50

understand, Like my brain

23:52

just goes like, no, this isn't a thing, right.

23:55

Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting because

23:57

this uh Bloomberg article is

24:00

like the way they make sense of this story

24:03

is all about like, uh, them

24:06

having these big breaks where it's revealed that

24:09

uh, some influential investor

24:12

was actually long on game stop

24:14

and that's like where these surgeons are coming

24:16

from, instead of like they really under

24:19

under rate the idea

24:21

that it's just like kind of being done. Uh

24:26

like every established power group. It's

24:28

like that it could be even in politics, like was

24:31

it activists. I don't know, ye,

24:34

actually I think it was actually because Joe Biden

24:37

was so appealing. You forget about

24:39

that, So let's let's ignore that.

24:41

Maybe there are other things that could threaten the

24:43

power structure, right

24:47

um, but yeah, I mean if they

24:49

do bailout hedge funds, like I

24:51

think, then the story becomes more

24:54

significant because then it becomes even

24:56

greater affront to the

24:59

or just like a greater illustration of the

25:02

disconnect there. Yea, and

25:04

the fact that they are I I forget

25:07

who wrote it on Twitter, but somebody was like, so

25:09

they've owed us two thousand

25:12

dollars and I haven't been able to get that

25:14

out, but you know they're gonna managed

25:16

to bail these hedge funds out the next

25:18

week. It's just frustrating.

25:23

Yeah. So you guys a like

25:25

a louder voice in these people's ears, you

25:27

know what I mean? Yeah, that that's what you're competing

25:29

against. And when you have a ton of people, like

25:31

when politicians are surrounded by these people, they

25:34

think that's what the world is. Like this

25:36

saying I made up money talks.

25:45

But let's talk acquittal because

25:48

or you know, impeachment. Um, it's

25:50

looking like acquittal too. Fascist boogaloo. Yeah,

25:53

we talked on a couple of days ago

25:56

on trending, uh that senators

25:59

voted for emotion that was basically

26:01

saying Trump's second impeachment it wasn't constitutional

26:04

because uh, you

26:07

know, he's out office, he's

26:11

a private citizen. Leave him alone, you

26:14

guys, hasn't he been through enough.

26:17

What hasn't

26:19

he been through enough bodies? What

26:22

are you talking about? So yeah, because of that

26:25

we talked about, that means twelve Republicans

26:28

are gonna have to emerge from the depths of hades

26:30

to try and reclaim their humanity in

26:32

order to actually convict the president or

26:35

ex president in a Senate trial. Um.

26:38

I don't know if that that's gonna work, because

26:41

it seems like the party is getting behind

26:43

Trump again based on a lot of the like recent

26:45

polling. And you know, John Thune,

26:47

he's a Republican senator. He said, you know,

26:50

just because we voted on the constitutionality

26:52

of the impeachment, isn't gonna necessarily bind us

26:54

to a vote to convict. And I'm

26:56

like, sure, Jan, that's

26:59

that's nice to say out loud, to try and

27:01

pretend you're not just some craven asshole,

27:04

but that's what it is. And yes,

27:06

So now in the impeachment managers in Trump's

27:08

defense, they have until February eight to get

27:10

their arguments and everything in order. But

27:12

like, you know, I think the one thing people

27:15

the positive outlook on this possibility

27:17

of Republicans coming around is like, well, maybe if the

27:20

evidence is so fucked

27:22

up and putrid and irrefutable,

27:25

they will these power hungry

27:27

boot throaters will actually figure

27:29

out that this isn't the way to go. But I

27:32

don't know, I mean, I don't

27:34

know. I don't think so, I don't think that. I mean some

27:36

of the Republicans even said things like, you know, like we're

27:38

not saying we're not seeing anything from witnesses,

27:40

and it's like, you guys were there. You weren't there,

27:43

You were right there. Like what are you talking

27:46

about? You saw that, you heard it. What do you mean

27:48

there's no witnesses you

27:51

experience. Actually, maybe

27:53

you shouldn't even be participating if that's

27:58

you need more information on

28:00

the fact that your lie, your safety was threatened

28:02

by insurrection. Okay, okay,

28:05

um, can't we just let it go? Man? My

28:09

god, move on. This is not good

28:11

for the country. But what's fucked

28:14

up is that fucking strategy is gonna

28:16

work. They're gonna can we just move

28:18

on their way through and

28:21

at this fucking coup attempt and

28:24

we have, like most people have been screaming,

28:27

check the receipts of history. This

28:29

doesn't this doesn't end with them coming back

28:31

in ten years being like we

28:33

were so wrong. My gosh,

28:36

we're actually, you know what we're gonna do. We we're volunteering

28:39

ourselves to go to jail for that because that was so much

28:42

like that ain't happening. They're coming. They're gonna knuckle

28:44

up and go in the lab and get smarter and

28:46

come back and figure out a way to do it, you know, by

28:49

hacking the system of governance is how

28:51

it works. But there

28:54

has been evidence right that there

28:57

there was more coordination. Has anything

28:59

come of that? Have there been any additional developments

29:02

that of like who was involved

29:04

on the inside, and like beyond

29:06

just Trump giving the speech, there's

29:09

a there's a couple Congress people,

29:12

people in Congress whom especially

29:15

uh I forget her name, but one

29:18

of the Q and on one of the two Q and on ones. Yeah,

29:21

she's been accused of like giving people that

29:23

were at the protested tour of Congress

29:25

beforehand. UM and also

29:27

like two of them have been like they have a history

29:29

of posting things like we want to kill Nancy. Like

29:32

one of them liked to post about killing Nancy Pelosi.

29:35

UM another has like they've both written

29:37

online believing in Q and all the violence

29:39

against Democrats that would involve. So

29:42

there's kind of evidence that they helped, but it's not like

29:44

direct photographic evidence that they helped.

29:47

Yeah, And I think because there's so

29:49

many ongoing investigations that are

29:51

being kept so close that like,

29:53

I don't know when we're actually gonna understand

29:56

the totality of everything. Like I think one

29:58

thing is seeing I think more Reese only is

30:00

about all of the video shows how Proud

30:03

Boys were very much fundamental in

30:05

really getting people riled up and being like

30:07

the focal point of a lot of like these points of contact

30:10

and entry um and the fact

30:12

that they've been so chummy

30:15

with Roger Stone and the and the Republican

30:17

you know establishment that you know, you

30:19

can there's inferences that can be made, but I

30:22

don't know. That's why I'm like curious what happens February,

30:24

what we learned, more, what they present, because

30:27

if if they're only going to be like, hey, uh,

30:30

as I present this case, the prosecution

30:32

says, y'all were there right? All

30:35

right? The prosecution rests. If we do

30:38

that, it's fucking not

30:40

not good. And I hope that you're gonna come harder

30:42

than that, because these people are are

30:45

you know, so willing to just shut their

30:47

brain off and be like, I don't know what, I don't know what the hell

30:51

I'm sorry January Secks,

30:54

is that a date? I don't know anything

30:56

to me? Alright, let's

30:59

talk about how Fox is dealing with the

31:01

new reality other than you know,

31:03

falling in the ratings a little bit, uh

31:06

thinking about I think replacing their CEO

31:09

is one of the rumors going around. Um,

31:13

but you know, they they do still

31:15

have to fill twenty four hours of news

31:17

every day and they have a pretty clear

31:20

strategy. Mile as you were saying, it just seems,

31:22

you know, it's like we all everyone knew this

31:25

growing into Biden being inaugurated.

31:27

It's like, watch this second, the clock

31:29

changes and Biden's president, that COVID

31:32

was suddenly going to be a thing that a president

31:35

is responsible for and how dare

31:37

he let fifteen thousand

31:40

people die and is for whatever stat

31:42

they were throwing out there like like

31:44

clockwork, because it's it's it's all

31:46

horseshit, And they started,

31:48

you know, taling these daily deaths is like part

31:50

of like you know, they're sort of graphic package

31:53

every day, and you know, by

31:55

pivoting and making that a thing to like

31:57

rally the no brain supporter around.

32:00

They can really create this like disingenuous

32:03

narrative they can take into mid terms, which

32:05

is pandemic is so out of control, Joe Biden,

32:08

what the fuck? UM? While

32:11

actively having like a huge

32:13

hand in exacerbating like the behaviors

32:16

of people that is making this pandemic

32:19

really hard to contain. UM. On

32:21

top of obviously the lack of financial support

32:23

for people. I mean, that will always be an unseid

32:26

thing that is known UM. But more

32:28

specifically with Fox's hand they're

32:30

really like they're They're really good at

32:32

riling these people up. So that's why this handity

32:35

clip from UM Tuesday night really

32:37

stuck out, because he's openly

32:39

questioning the vaccine to his millions

32:42

of viewers, when before when

32:45

when Trump was president, they're like, thank

32:47

god, the vaccine is coming. If you remember,

32:49

this is very clear, and I think Fiser

32:51

announced that they had it just to screw the president

32:54

over Bubba. So the vaccine was good

32:56

then, but cut two now when Joe

32:58

Biden is president, and then this is you get all

33:00

right, I don't know when

33:03

my number gets called. I'm

33:05

actually beginning to have doubts. I've been telling my friends

33:08

I'm gonna get the vaccine that you know, half of them

33:10

agree and the other half think I'm absolutely nuts.

33:13

They wouldn't take it in a million years. I don't know who

33:15

to listen to. I

33:18

don't know. Why do you get all weird, drunk folksy

33:21

stuff. I

33:23

couldn't stop. I couldn't help myself but make

33:26

the like, like the face

33:28

he was making, it's just like real, like I'll

33:30

let me level with your folks. I

33:34

don't, I don't. I don't believe him, but I do want to imagine

33:36

it would be like vaccine that's nuts,

33:39

Like right,

33:43

friends, a full half of his friend

33:46

it's like, yeah, his like life is like a Benny

33:48

Hill fucking sketch. Vaccine

33:52

No, and then the like scientists like you better take

33:54

it, Shan, it's

33:56

fucking chaotic. But yeah, this is

33:58

what he's saying to because you know, this is

34:01

what happens. They say stuff like this, and

34:03

then it's gonna end up in the weird chain

34:05

emails. Your aunt sends you being like, well,

34:07

you know, I'm at the vaccine though, you know,

34:09

because Hannity is openly questioning

34:12

it, and it seems like that's in a really

34:14

effective tactic, you know, just to keep

34:17

to prolong the pain of the pandemic

34:19

because it's going to affect the economy, which you're like, well

34:21

they bludge and Trump because he doesn't

34:23

know how to do anything that they're all. It's

34:26

just becomes so cynical even I mean, it's always

34:28

been down this path. But when you have a vaccine

34:31

that even godhead Robert Rupert

34:33

Murdoch took that you're

34:35

still gonna do it, it's like, come the funk

34:37

on, like, just just relaxed,

34:40

what is this? But that's what they want to do.

34:42

Well he took it, and look his ratings went down.

34:44

Man, I'm just saying, yeah,

34:48

you act like those things are unconnected. I

34:50

do wonder because they spent so

34:52

much time be acting

34:55

like the pandemic was overrated to the point

34:57

that uh, people, you

34:59

know, we're will to put their life lives

35:01

on the line and uh, you

35:04

know protest and grocery stores

35:06

and catch COVID and die and

35:09

you know, with their dying breaths tweet Trump. I

35:13

do wonder like that has

35:15

to be at least

35:18

partially responsible for the drop in

35:21

their their viewership right there, Like no longer

35:24

presenting a coherent like

35:27

version of the world. I feel like even like

35:30

before, at least they were presenting

35:32

one that all held together but was

35:35

you know obviously uh, completely

35:38

corrupt and self serving. Uh.

35:41

But now it's like they their facts

35:44

are kind of all over the place and it's not it's

35:46

not clear like what how

35:48

these things can both be true? Right?

35:52

And I also think that a lot of that, like you know, the

35:54

things like the like yeah exactly,

35:56

things like also the you know, calling Arizona during

35:58

the election, like there

36:00

were I think that one Fox News is

36:02

so happy Bidens in office because it's just someone to push

36:04

against. But they start I feel like they also started to lose

36:07

ratings because they just wouldn't go full as crazy

36:09

the way oh A n would or like

36:11

right, like they would be like, okay, we can't say that we

36:13

need to uh murder all

36:16

the Democrats, and people are like all right, we're done

36:18

with the liberals. But

36:20

I think Biden's back now they could be like, you know, everything's

36:23

communism, everything socialism because they

36:25

don't have to condemn Trump anymore. So people

36:28

I think will come back, right

36:30

Yeah, I mean yeah, it's it's you know, it's

36:32

a hard energy to keep up the bloodthirst,

36:35

you know what I mean, after a while, you if

36:37

you were really on Like, there are people who clearly

36:40

have an agenda, and those are the people who

36:43

need to be looked out of We're watched out

36:45

for um. But there

36:47

are also people who, like you can tell just were

36:50

they were ride in this wave, and

36:53

some people like you know, because I'm already seeing

36:55

even on like my my reports

36:57

from Facebook that I get from other people, they're like, you know, there's

37:00

there's some like kind of like not

37:03

talking as loud anymore. And I think like a

37:05

lot of people trying to feel like do I want to be like

37:07

so angry that I want to

37:09

kill people everyday energy? Or

37:11

do I want to Because just as much as like liberals

37:14

want to get back to brunch, I'm sure they're conservatives

37:16

who else just want to get back to their daily consumption

37:19

culture with a tinge of de facto

37:21

white supremacy. Um. But

37:24

yeah, like it's it's I'm curious to see how those numbers

37:27

end up, because yeah, Jack, to your point, like before

37:29

Fox at least had like Linda Lafi

37:31

and levels of world building that you could

37:33

operate within. And you're like, yes, this. Of

37:36

course, what you're saying is different. I already

37:38

know this from season three, Like that's true. But

37:41

now we're like in the later seasons

37:43

of Lost, where

37:45

it's like the oh

37:48

yeah, I don't know how that how that works out

37:50

in the long run. But the Polar Bears,

37:52

yeah, they were dead the whole time.

37:55

It was bullshit the whole time. Always

37:58

was nothing matters, nothing matters.

38:01

I mean that's how we felt for a long time

38:03

too. Anybody who wasn't,

38:05

oh so nothing matters. It's all just

38:08

yeah, alright, let's take another

38:10

quick break and we'll come back and talk about James

38:13

Bond maybe and

38:24

we're back, uh and yeah,

38:27

let's talk about this James Bond movie because

38:30

our writer J M McNabb

38:34

is speculating that maybe

38:37

it's just that this movie is so

38:39

profoundly cursed and we're all just

38:42

suffering the consequences of of

38:44

how bad make curse this movie is,

38:47

like the pandemic was created

38:50

as a result of whatever curse

38:52

was put on this movie. Um, so

38:54

he just gave he gave us a rundown

38:57

of sort of where where

39:00

we started and where we're at now, because they

39:02

just announced that they're pushing

39:04

it back yet again to the point

39:06

that now they have to uh probably

39:09

do reshoots because the technology

39:12

is now out of date from

39:14

when they first shot the movie. Um,

39:17

wasn't it supposed to come out before

39:19

the pandemic? It was it was supposed to come

39:22

out in November, So

39:27

we're supposed to come out then. Yeah,

39:29

the product place was fucked. Yeah it's

39:32

now looking at October eight. So

39:36

it's interesting because it started

39:39

with this piece of consumer

39:41

culture that I don't

39:44

understand, but it's becoming more prevalent where

39:47

people who are fans of a thing really

39:50

like are are most like. It used to

39:52

be that you didn't want the band you liked

39:55

to succeed because then all

39:57

the fake gas fans would

39:59

come along. You'd be like, I don't like him anymore.

40:01

But now it's like you will

40:05

like the The two heads of the two

40:07

biggest James Bond fan sites

40:09

on the Internet, we're imploring

40:12

the studio to delay the release,

40:14

uh from April until the summer of

40:18

because they didn't want it to fail

40:20

due to the pandemic. They were like making

40:22

business decisions to

40:26

try and like expand the audience

40:28

because the summer we're gonna be out of the Woods

40:32

the movies. Yeah, um,

40:35

but it's almost

40:37

impressive how like fucked the movie

40:39

was from the beginning. So it's

40:41

originally scheduled, like I said, to come out November,

40:46

delayed after the original director,

40:48

Danny Boyle quit due to creative

40:51

differences. Apparently his

40:53

script ideas were, according

40:55

to sources, quote crazy and quote

40:58

mad cap, and rumor had it he

41:00

wanted to kill off James Bond. Yeah,

41:04

which I actually

41:06

really like that idea because this being Daniel

41:08

Craig's last movie, like officially

41:11

you can, like, I like

41:13

the fan theory that James Bond is

41:15

actually a code name. That's why the actor keeps

41:18

changing is because there they

41:20

are all different people inhabiting

41:22

this role that was created for m

41:25

I six called James Bond. Uh,

41:28

But that doesn't really fit

41:30

within the U universe of the

41:33

movie. What is it, Danny Boyle James

41:35

Bond dying scene? Look like is he like oding

41:38

on Heroin or something like I'm

41:40

curious, like how dark? Because

41:44

you know, like because in the first one, what was

41:46

the first Double seven

41:48

with Daniel Craig Casino Royal, Yeah,

41:51

right, and that one was like, oh ship, like

41:53

he's kind of you know what I mean and like

41:56

that. I feel like that helped everybody be like, Yo,

41:58

this new James Bond actually takes a series like what

42:00

if a guy killed a bunch of people and all

42:02

these women killed and drank a ton and

42:04

kind of we didn't have a lot of therapy. Uh,

42:08

this is where you end up. So yeah, that would

42:10

have been I would have been interested in

42:12

seeing that. Um. So

42:15

their next choice was awesome

42:17

True Detectives Carrie Fukanaga. But

42:19

then Daniel Craig injured himself

42:21

during filming had to get ankle surgery. A

42:25

controlled explosion on set this

42:27

is a separate incident wasn't so controlled and

42:29

ended up injuring a crew member and

42:32

damaging the sound stage. Uh.

42:34

And then there were rumors that there was a

42:36

mutiny on the set because Fukunaga

42:38

was constantly missing work in order to play

42:41

his PlayStation, which

42:43

he denied. He said his quote

42:45

was, as for my PS four

42:48

relationship, if my Red Dead redemption

42:50

to progresses any indication, it's

42:53

been stunted at six for

42:55

months, and if anyone spoils the end for me

42:57

before I wrap by, I'm

43:00

going to be pissed. So Uh,

43:03

that doesn't that sounds like it

43:06

sounds like you were playing Red Dead Redemption the

43:12

progress argument really,

43:15

I mean, can you do you have screen caps

43:17

of your progress before? Because

43:19

it could just be that you're stalling out trying

43:21

to achieve something and you're at whatever.

43:24

I mean, we don't need gamer forensics to enter,

43:26

but I like them that, like it went that

43:29

like your director at James Bond movie. But you're

43:31

like, no, man, I just got a new hat, Like I

43:33

think, I think to keep going around

43:35

for a little bit. You're like, the online mode

43:37

just came out, and I think would be a moonshiner. You can

43:39

make more money. It's not as fun, but you definitely get more

43:42

money to buy stuff for your character. Look at my guy, he's

43:44

so fucked up looking. Huh. Also,

43:47

that seems so long ago. That's

43:49

another testament how long

43:51

this movie he's been in production Redemption

43:54

too, Like, oh

43:57

fuck years ago. Uh.

44:01

Grays Jones was brought in for a

44:03

cameo quit on the spot

44:05

because she didn't like the size of her role.

44:08

Uh. And then after all of that, the pandemic

44:10

hit couldn't be released. Apple

44:13

and Netflix offered to buy the movie, but

44:16

MGM wanted six hundred million

44:18

dollars and so they

44:20

didn't do that, but a

44:22

big So the reshoots is actually

44:25

kind of a big deal because

44:27

the movie is like all

44:29

James Bond movies or at least partially uh

44:32

funded by product placement. Heineken

44:35

supposedly paid forty five million dollars

44:38

to have Daniel Craig sipped their beer at

44:41

that and that one of the

44:43

Daniel Craig James Bonds I don't even remember. But

44:46

so there's like Nokia devices that

44:49

he's using, which are already

44:52

outdated, and uh,

44:54

we'll look very old by

44:58

the time the movie comes out, so they're gonna

45:00

have to reshoot or use Uh.

45:02

They've actually like digitally altered a

45:05

shot from the trailer to update

45:07

the Nokia equipment. So maybe

45:09

they can just do that for the whole movie. But

45:12

I'm sure, like what for cars, and you're not gonna

45:14

be able to like completely update

45:16

the car toil like this year's model. I

45:21

love it. I love that ship, you know what I

45:23

mean, Like just that second, those those

45:25

secondary deliverable as you have as

45:27

a production You're like, dude, oh fuckal

45:32

fuck, what

45:35

does the new one look like? It's completely fucking

45:37

different. Oh my god, it's

45:40

not we might as well just eat the fucking

45:42

lawsuit because it's gonna cost more to try and reshoot

45:44

with the fucking phone. It's

45:47

this sounds this so funny, Like whoever's figuring

45:49

that out in real time? I just feel so awful

45:51

for But also they're probably being paid exorbitant sums

45:53

of money, so do you they're

45:55

they're probably being paying, but the special effects person

45:57

that they're putting it only not being

46:00

paid. There. It's like the same guy who had to replace

46:02

Superman's mustache and Justice

46:04

League again, like

46:06

the studios like doxing that VFX

46:08

artist because it's like, I don't know, man, you should

46:10

check out this guy his email, Like, I don't know, you should

46:13

ask him what the hell was going on with that? Huh? That's

46:15

man? Oh well, I I

46:19

hope it comes out and

46:21

it's incident free, but

46:25

oh well, have we still have? Have they even

46:27

figured out who the next James Bond was? Or was that

46:29

always just going to be a controversial thing because they mentioned

46:31

someone that was not a white cis gendered

46:34

man. I think the second I

46:36

think that there was like a lot of talk about it.

46:38

I think because Daniel Craig, it sounded for a bit like he might

46:40

have not even done this one, Like wasn't there like

46:42

a big talk about that? So I think that he came

46:44

back and then they're like, well, we'll address that later

46:47

when people forget Yeah, right, he

46:49

would sounded like as nihilistic

46:52

as any movie star has ever

46:54

sounded about. Like a role. It was like, I

46:56

hate this role. James Bond used to die

46:58

and then like immediately did a one

47:01

A D. It was very very

47:03

funny to see that no Kia check landed

47:05

on his doorstep. Yeah. The

47:08

the mustache thing that you just reference is

47:10

that that's a real story, right, That's

47:13

a real story that really happened. You can see

47:15

that on YouTube. The basically

47:18

they he wouldn't shave his mustache

47:20

for I think when he was

47:22

doing Mission Possible, right, the

47:24

most important part of that character was the mustache,

47:27

and they need to do a reshoot. He wouldn't shave

47:29

it, and so Warner had

47:31

to pay someone to like digitally

47:34

erase a mustache in the shot. Because

47:36

he's Superman is Superman, he

47:38

usually doesn't have like a Freddie Mercury

47:40

mustache. Um. So, but

47:43

the thing is it almost looks it looks almost

47:46

like they just took clay and just

47:48

wrapped it over his lip, so it still

47:51

has like the contours of a mustache a little

47:53

bit. It just looks flesh covered

47:55

and like the mouth moving looks it looks.

47:58

It looks like if you and I down did

48:00

Maya and did like a two hour training

48:02

video on it and then replaced footage of Superman

48:06

just got a ken doll mouth all of a sudden, Yeah,

48:10

just let him rock the mustache. We're like, hey, I forgot

48:12

to shave. Man. If you knew how fast this thing grows,

48:14

like, you'd have a whole movie and me just shaving. Okay, let's

48:16

move on. Yeah uh

48:20

I I was going to say that that would

48:22

hurt his ability to disguise himself

48:24

as Clark Kent, but it's not like any

48:27

other part of his face is covered up. His

48:30

eyes. Yeah, Um, has

48:32

anyone done know like a funny mockumentary

48:35

about like Clark Kent's co workers

48:37

putting together that he was Superman. Just

48:41

that guy is Superman, not

48:44

kidd Superman that I don't know. It looks

48:46

at side by side photo it's him, you

48:48

fucking idiot, But he has that

48:50

guy has a cool curl right, they

48:54

do some Superman's change

48:56

the side that his hair has parted on because

49:00

like having it parted, sweeping from

49:02

left to right is alpha, so that's

49:04

what Superman has. But Clark

49:07

Kent has it parted the other way, as if he combs

49:09

his hair with his left hand, which is some

49:12

beta ship obviously. But I

49:14

just I love the the

49:17

lore about fucking Clark Kent, but

49:21

I love the idea that Superman,

49:23

like most of the time, is

49:26

spent not like taking the thing off, but like fixing

49:29

his hair as people are like about to die.

49:31

He's like in the mirror, like ship. Don't

49:34

look like a cock, you idiot. Wait

49:37

a minute to a man's half potted on the wrong side,

49:40

the real Superman. It's super

49:42

cock. Get him alright,

49:46

let's talk. Let's talk Ellen. Ellen

49:48

has one year left on our contract for a

49:50

show. About

49:53

six months from now, negotiations will

49:55

begin to discuss the future

49:57

of the show. But it seems

50:00

like she may have had enough

50:02

bullying uh from other

50:05

people to on her for

50:07

now. In

50:10

this page six article, which

50:12

if these tawboys they've been

50:14

they've been taking us for a ride the last couple of weeks,

50:16

especially that heartbreaking revelation

50:18

that Jane Korkowski was not in fact with

50:21

Michael Lindel, but I'm a Mike Lindel

50:23

Korkowski truther, so that that love

50:25

story will go on in my heart. Um but

50:28

yeah, the whole thing with this is, you know, she owns

50:30

the rights to the show, so she's basically

50:32

in fully in control of what happens, you

50:35

know, like she doesn't have to like they

50:37

can't be like, well, we're renewing it and it's our show,

50:39

so you gotta do it, or Funk's like now, I

50:41

don't have to do that. And the reports

50:43

and page six seemed to be about it's all the exposure

50:46

and fucking accountability around

50:49

her mistreatment of people that

50:51

is wearing her down and she just wants

50:54

to go to Elysium with all the other bazillionaires

50:56

in this guy and just not be bothered by it

50:58

anymore. Um So yeah, that's

51:00

where she's at. And then like in the article, like well who will take

51:02

the thrown Apparently Kelly Clarkson has been eating

51:05

into her ratings since the summer, not

51:07

like in a huge way, but that I

51:09

guess when you're measuring where the audiences

51:11

are shifting Kelly Clarkson maybe the

51:14

new Ellen. I guess maybe. I mean, I don't

51:16

know, Kelly's a star. I've

51:18

heard Kelly Clarkson of her. Drew Barrymore. Part

51:21

of me also, like my conspiracy theory head

51:23

thinks that maybe like Kelly Clarkson

51:25

or Drew Barrymore's people are the one that see that article

51:27

of Ellen thinking of leaving. Yeah,

51:32

who seated all the all the things. Ellen's

51:34

actually really sweet to everybody behind

51:37

the scenes, and uh no

51:40

one believes me. Um Drew

51:44

Barrymore man fucking master technic technician.

51:48

I'm saying, though we've we've we've been fooled

51:50

for decades and then the knife comes out.

51:53

For those first couple of episodes were a little rocky

51:55

though. Yeah

51:59

they were one up for all the wrong reasons.

52:02

Psychotic show, Yeah, just weird.

52:04

It was like, does anybody making this show

52:07

know what a talk show is? Or?

52:10

Okay? Cool? But I kind of liked

52:12

it about it because it felt like it almost felt like someone

52:15

like as much as the cliche is like we just made a show

52:17

in our basement, but with a budget, that's what it feels

52:19

like. A show like like I have

52:21

one friend who does food segments on it, and they're

52:23

like they just went like, hey, do you want to come on and test snacks?

52:25

And he was like sure. So like like

52:29

it feels like it's a podcast with a ton

52:31

of TV money. Yeah, God,

52:35

one of these networks do that over here. We

52:37

can use snack tests. We're

52:39

already doing passive product placement anyway,

52:41

because we're so consumer brained

52:44

from being American. Your product placement for weed,

52:47

Yeah, exactly that, and then like just

52:49

talking ad nauseum about yeah,

52:54

we're chills for sure. Yeah,

52:58

I can be ill prepared with the best

53:00

of them. You heard my take on the stock market up

53:02

top right, and that's what

53:05

the Drew Barrymore segment felt like. But it

53:07

is a thing. I would watch them though, to your

53:09

point, Mike, because it's it's

53:12

so different. It's like just such aint. You're

53:14

like, yeah, I guess this. I'm like in my

53:16

mind, I had to come around and like, I guess this is

53:18

what it would be if Drew Barrymore had

53:20

a talk show, like more realistically than

53:23

a host that happens to be Drew Barrymore.

53:26

Yes, yeah, it almost feels a little bit like

53:28

between two ferns. But it's not a joke,

53:30

like it's like thing run seriously, like I mean,

53:33

she's having fun with it. She's not dead serious, but like

53:35

sense of like, oh this is weird and

53:38

it's like authentically. Yeah.

53:41

There there is this overall trend I've

53:43

I've seen like in a couple

53:45

of places where celebrities who

53:48

have come under criticism for

53:52

being bad humans are

53:54

are now like really

53:57

bitter. They like, no, they can't come out

53:59

and say it. But I was just noticing

54:02

Bill Simmons on his podcast on

54:04

an ad on his show so I've heard

54:06

it like a dozen times, talks

54:09

about how Steph Curry put up

54:11

sixty two points in response to his haters

54:13

on social media, and he was like, hey,

54:15

man, I know how it feels. That's what social media is

54:18

for people to criticize people more successful

54:20

than them. Because he

54:22

caught shipped for hiring a bunch

54:24

of like white dudes and uh

54:28

for his like very white

54:30

dude, fifty year old economic

54:33

and racial politics on a sports show. But

54:36

he he takes it as like they're just haters

54:38

who don't like my success. Man. Oh

54:41

yeah, where anybody who

54:44

starts just redefines

54:47

accountability as haters. Yeah,

54:49

yeah, that's that's when you that's when you crossed

54:52

the rubicon into bullshit, like you've

54:54

fully you're like, that's when you always

54:56

notice like, oh, you're not You're no longer willing

54:59

to even hold a place in your mind

55:01

where someone could have an opinion that like,

55:03

Okay, that's that might be valid or that's

55:05

an interesting viewpoint on something versus

55:08

the blanket. Oh, they're just haters, you know what

55:10

I mean, They're just that's what they do. They're

55:12

just haters. They hate that I'm a white supremacist.

55:15

That's what it is like. And

55:19

finally, let's talk Disney's

55:21

Hall of Presidents at

55:23

disney World, which is which

55:26

is open? I

55:28

guess so out well,

55:31

they've escaped and it's bad news

55:34

for Floridians. So I

55:36

guess it's closed right now as they're updating

55:39

it with a robo Biden.

55:42

But I hadn't really followed,

55:45

Like the Trump bot has already

55:47

been a huge problem for Disney, and

55:50

the attraction now requires live

55:53

human security guards because

55:55

of the heckling and derision that Trump

55:58

gets. Um, and they added large

56:00

spikes near the stage to protract

56:03

to protect the animatronic

56:05

Trump, which is very easy. Um

56:09

wild like I mean like anti

56:11

tank hedgehogs on D Day, like

56:17

what I

56:22

love the idea of the happiest place on Earth, installing

56:24

spikes. It's

56:28

just like they let a tiny little

56:30

bit of politics through and it's just like splodes.

56:36

Just have like George Washington give

56:38

a little speech and then Abraham Lincoln waves

56:40

and get out, like we don't need the current

56:43

president speaking. Yeah. They

56:45

apparently Trump's robot wax

56:48

is poetically about America,

56:50

which isn't just like a false

56:53

representation of him as a president. Uh,

56:55

it's not what he wanted to record for Disney.

56:58

According to one of his aids, Trump

57:00

tried to brag about his private real estate business

57:03

and make inaccurate claims while recording

57:05

the speech he sent to Disney, and they had to like edit

57:07

around it. Um, honestly,

57:12

the era of Trump comedy is over. But that's

57:14

so funny to me. Imagine a recording

57:16

booth and they're like this will take fifteen minutes

57:18

there, just just say the line, and

57:20

it taking eight hours bocking

57:24

forth. It's like that episode of The Crown where

57:26

a Thatchers like has to give a take on apartheid

57:29

and they're like, what about this way he's like, no, no,

57:32

I gotta talk about Trump steaks. Gotta

57:34

talk about Trump steaks in this one. Sorry,

57:36

it's no like you have fucking Abrahamily

57:39

can talk about the Civil War that you get the fucking

57:41

salesman Trump root fuck.

57:45

They're not good with politics. Huh. Maybe Disneys

57:47

just keep the fucking head out

57:50

of this ship forever. They're thinking

57:52

of instead of doing that, they're

57:54

thinking of rebranding the attraction. Uh.

57:56

And there were rumors that they were going

57:58

to completely over all it with input of

58:01

Lin Manuel Miranda and weird Al, which

58:06

would be yeah, I would take that, please

58:11

too. Talented musicians and a guy who famously

58:13

doesn't say bad words like that feels

58:16

what much than

58:18

fucking anything? Yeah? Fine, Disney

58:21

always gets the great musicians

58:23

in the end. They might be giants. They

58:25

got them hot

58:28

Dog, Hot Dog, Hot diggity Dog.

58:30

That's the That's one

58:32

of my kid's favorite songs. It's the Disney

58:35

Mickey Mouse like Clubhouse

58:38

theme song by they might be giants.

58:41

Uh. I wonder what current

58:43

musicians will will be Disney

58:45

musicians in the future. Chance

58:49

maybe? Oh yeah, I guess see

58:51

a chance the rapper doing kid rap. Oh

58:53

yeah, I feel like I feel like you you have a family

58:55

phase, you hate

58:58

your and rap, you have your like five

59:00

years of like we're gonna make kids movies and we're gonna make

59:02

some fun at music and then we're back to real exactly.

59:05

Like if if ice Cube can go from

59:07

n W A T are we there yet?

59:10

And you know, West Side Gun and

59:13

the whole Griselda gang could be

59:15

doing fucking kids Bob versions of fucking

59:17

all the hits and the cardib is going to be the new

59:19

Mr. Rogers, Like it's it's

59:22

look at the end of the day, it's about to check. And if someone's

59:24

willing to be like, hey, gangster guy, you want to

59:26

be in a kid movie for money?

59:29

Like yeah, yeah, for

59:31

sure, I mean. And also like, you know, when you grew

59:34

up in your fifteen listening to a rapper and

59:36

you're, you know, thirty six and you have kids,

59:38

you're you still like that rapper, right

59:40

of course? You know, you're like DMX

59:43

is Daddy Daycare, dmxican

59:46

that Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer cover

59:49

and people loved it right right right

59:51

exactly. How

59:53

the fund did I miss that DMX to

59:56

Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer cover a

59:58

couple of years ago, but it's on Spotify now. Ship.

1:00:01

It was like when he wasn't using the computer

1:00:03

at all and he just like got kind of sober,

1:00:05

and every like every radio station he went to,

1:00:07

people will be like, let's make a viral video DMX.

1:00:09

Just get him to read this thing or ask him if he knows about

1:00:12

Google, because there's acting

1:00:14

what the fun is Google? Google? And

1:00:17

you're like, okay, shit,

1:00:21

Uh well, Mike, it's been so fun having you.

1:00:23

Man, where can people find

1:00:25

you? Follow you? Read you? Um,

1:00:28

you can find me on Twitter at Mike

1:00:30

Drucker and Mike k E d r u c k

1:00:32

y r um on Instagram at Mike Drucker

1:00:34

is dead because the other name was taken and

1:00:37

uh what Please watch Full Front wisamantheby

1:00:39

ten thirty Wednesdays on TBS

1:00:41

and also read my book Silent Hill

1:00:43

from Boss Fight Books. Yeah, we're

1:00:46

out on the charts because I know you were watching yourself

1:00:48

on the chart. I think

1:00:50

this morning I was number seven on video game

1:00:52

books, which is actually pretty good because all of

1:00:54

them are like Minecraft books. They're like weirdly

1:00:57

vaguely horny teenage Minecraft to

1:01:00

even rise a little bit, feels good. Yeah, to break

1:01:03

through all that Minecraft noise, for sure is the

1:01:05

Minecraft Minecraft books are like

1:01:08

fan fiction type thing. Like there's a lot

1:01:10

that are fan Amazon's very loosey

1:01:12

goosey with like fan fiction publishing,

1:01:14

and so some are fan fiction and some are like

1:01:17

official uh novelizations.

1:01:20

So it's a mixture of the two. Got it. It's

1:01:23

not like how to be good at Minecraft. It's

1:01:25

like this person guides

1:01:28

or for Jack. Yeah. Uh.

1:01:32

And is there a tweet or some

1:01:34

of the work of social media you've been enjoying?

1:01:36

Yes, Uh, my favorite tweet of all

1:01:38

time. I need to I need to find

1:01:41

it because I had it up and then it went away. Give

1:01:44

me a second, there

1:01:49

we go. Uh. Do you guys know d C. Pearson. Yeah,

1:01:52

he was in that comedy group Derek Um. So

1:01:54

there's a tweet that I think about, maybe, I

1:01:57

don't know, once a week. And it's

1:01:59

from two thousand eighteen, and he posts

1:02:01

a picture of a snack called goji maka snacker

1:02:04

rooms, and what he writes

1:02:06

above it is I sent used to to whack

1:02:08

that freaking guy, and instead you screwed it up like a couple

1:02:10

of and then it says Gogi Maca snacker rooms,

1:02:13

and it always makes me laugh, just the

1:02:15

idea of Goji Marca snackers

1:02:18

being like an italianate snack

1:02:22

roons. These guys a bunch

1:02:24

of I always

1:02:26

laughed at it. It's so funny. Gogi

1:02:29

Marca snacker Room. Zach

1:02:35

Miles, where you can people find you? What's tweeting?

1:02:39

Twitter, Instagram? Miles A. Gray Also

1:02:42

for Fiance the other podcast if you

1:02:44

want to talk about Fance and the aforementioned

1:02:47

can Abyss. Some tweets

1:02:49

that I like, both from Reductress.

1:02:51

I haven't haven't shown my love to my favorite

1:02:54

headline writers over their Reductress. First

1:02:56

one at Reductress, By the time I get

1:02:58

vaccinated, will it even be cool anymore?

1:03:01

That's true? This like is a woman out?

1:03:04

And then another one from Reductress how

1:03:06

to Love Yourself even though the tattoo

1:03:08

artists didn't post a pick of your tattoo.

1:03:11

Oh that's funny. I

1:03:14

know people who have gone, you

1:03:16

know, like in the before times, who

1:03:19

are like, I'm going to go to this artist or whatever, like

1:03:21

I've been doing a lot of research, I want, I want this

1:03:23

piece by this artist, and then like they don't

1:03:25

post it and I'm like, Yo, where's the thing? I

1:03:27

don't I think I think they gotta wait, or

1:03:29

maybe they want to wait till it's like fully done and healed

1:03:31

or something. So the

1:03:34

pain of the tattoo artist's

1:03:36

so funny. Couple of tweets have

1:03:38

been enjoying. One from robbed

1:03:40

Delaney pro tip you can probably fit five

1:03:43

or six honeyed hands with you in your coffin

1:03:45

if they cut your legs off. And

1:03:48

then Andy Ryan tweeted

1:03:50

two elderly British ladies greeting

1:03:52

each other and it's a bag that says

1:03:54

l o verra on it Ala thera and

1:03:57

the other one says evening Primrose

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oil. You

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off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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as well as a song we ride out on miles

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What are we riding out on today? Just more

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easy background tunes, you know.

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But for the hip hop heads, you'll probably

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recognize this one because it is from cal Jadeer

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the fucking marimba, mallet

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vibraphone. God, it's called Aquarius.

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And if you're a fan of the tribe called

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Quest album Midnight Marauders, Keep

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Keep Bouncing, you might remember

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it from that. So yeah, check that out. All

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cal Jaders ship is really dope if you're into

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that jat So let's take it there

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alright, we're gonna ride out on that. The Daily zey

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