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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season

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one, fifty two, Episode two of DIR

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Dailies Guys, the production

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of I Heart Radio. This

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is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's

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shared consciousness and say, officially, off

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the top, fuck the Cooke Brothers, fuck

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Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck

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Buck Sexton, fuck Ben Shapiro,

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and fuck Tucker Carlson. It is

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Tuesday, and fund it. It's Tuesday,

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September twenty. My name is

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Jack O'Brien a K. Guess Who's

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Jack back again? Jack

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goes back telling trends.

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Guess who's back. Guess who's back.

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Guess who's back. Guess who's back?

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Guys, Who's back? I want I'm

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the host of the Mostest because nobody wants to

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hear Miles no more. They want JACKO

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the hot Taker. Well, if you want Jack, this

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is what I'll give you. A little cold gas

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mixed with a do rita. All right, that

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is courtesy a

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king. Uh and I am

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getting your face, bro, I'm

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through he joined once again.

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I'm my co host, Mr Miles.

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When I drink old brew photo

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it's time to record Easyner

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and I see Jack's do for friend

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Land Room and I know he isn't

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mad at me. A

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lovely day and

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thank you too, whatever, Christie,

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I'm Abucci name means Instagram

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handled. Twitter handles are this man is

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hopping from handle to handle like the

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Dillinger of Twitter, just

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evading the law, one step ahead of

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the law. So I guess you are now at Wapple

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House. Okay, so shout out to at Wopple

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House for that inspired eight K. I feel

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like I did that one before, but you know what, I'm feeling like, it's a lovely

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day to have Jack backing

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again. I was gonna say, to be back, I

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missed you guys. Um

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well, we are thrilled to be joined in

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our third seat by the hilarious,

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the challenged, the brilliant Caitlyn

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Duranto. I

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think I have another anagram.

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I don't remember which of these I've used

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before, but someone

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tweeted at me a while ago with

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a few that I've just been sitting on

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for for people who are new

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to the show, because I mean, we got a massive influx

2:29

of new listeners that I've imagined in the last

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two weeks. Caitlyn Durante's

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name is probably one of the most flexible anagrams.

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What was the first one that started off? Was

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it Latin? D answer? I think it was Latin?

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And then second best was like

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nine tip Dracula was also

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fucking mind blowing. Didn't you have a Titanic

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one too? Yes, Lauren D Titanic?

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Okay, which is your favorite

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movie? One of my favorite? Okay.

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We got some

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new ones that I don't think I've shared before,

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include, um,

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let's see unclean arid

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tit, let's

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see oh

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my god, lurid taint

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acne. Oh.

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One of them are really dirty. A lot of them have like

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hit or taint or

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a very naughty

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C word that I don't

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mind saying, but I know that people don't like to

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hear it. But the C word the

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British accent will be good. Um.

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So, yeah, a lot of them are quite dirty.

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Anal is another one that comes up a lot.

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So you know, just various derivatives

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of um anal taint,

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Latin dancer, U t I, nine tip

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drag. Those are still

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uh they combine the pedestrian

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with the with the lored Uh.

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But but these these are really

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grossing me out. Yeah, and let me credit

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those ones that I said. Those these those came from

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um at ab strue

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soul. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, he should be arrested or they should

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be arrested. Uh

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all right, Well, Caitlin,

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we're going to get to know you a little bit better

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in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners

4:33

a few of the things we're talking about. I'd

4:36

imagine right after you guys recorded

4:39

on Friday, news came through uh

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rbg uh passed away.

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So we're going to mourn her, talk

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about the political

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situation in the aftermath

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of her passing. We'll talk about

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how the right wing media is responding

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to her passing. We

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are going to talk about

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these new leaks that

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reveal two trillion of

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illegal financial activity

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being laundered by some

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shadowy uh financial organization

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known as Deutsche Bank. Yeah

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yeah yeah, h S B, C, JP,

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Morgan all tied into it. So

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we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about

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why protest songs maybe a bad idea

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when you're over the age of fifty. We're

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gonna talk about Ellen being back.

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We're gonna talk about red lobsters,

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mountain dew, cocktail, all

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of that plenty more. But first, Caitlin,

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we like to task our guests, What is something

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from your search history that is revealing

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about who you are? Oh gosh, oh

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I didn't I have a chance to prepare

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any of this, because okay, well be

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prepared. You gotta just read it your

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search history, give it to us. Okay,

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well, I just googled heroes journey.

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Um, because no

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offense. But I'm a screenwriter, might

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have a degree. Some might even say

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that I do have. Try not to be offended

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by that, but we'll say,

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but understandable. Um, So I wanted

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to there's like twelve steps of the hero's

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journey that I wanted to make sure I had,

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right, Um, because I wanted to include

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it in screenwriting classes

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and workshops that I routinely teach.

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So if any not to plug anything.

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Also, but you

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know I do that. So if you want to check that out,

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go to my website. Um. But

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yeah, so I googled here heroes

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journey. Now that that is like a

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cheek code to movies

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being made in Hollywood. I feel like they

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love them a hero's journey. Do you

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when you're teaching that? Are you just like this,

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this is what everybody wants their movie to

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be now? Or are you just

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teaching it as a It's

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more just like, here's

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a particular structure that

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you can model your story after.

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Here's like kind of a template you can use that is

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generally quite popular in

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like you know, you know how Disney just owns

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everything. All the Marvel

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movies, all the Star Wars movies generally

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follow this template. Um. So

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it's more just like, here's an option for

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you. But there's also other

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types of stories that are no

7:30

I'm kidding. But Dan Harmon uses

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it so he can be as drunk as possible

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and still make award winning content. I

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think it holds up if that can serve

7:38

as a guardrail for his writer's rooms.

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That's when I first being like, damn, like when

7:43

you really adhere to something, because I remember

7:45

when Community first came out, Everyone's

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like, oh wow, it's like really just everything so

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tidy and the writing is really efficient. And

7:52

then there's like this article that really sort of talked about

7:54

Dan Harmon sort of process using

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all his Joseph Campbell love and

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I was like, that's when I kind of sound like, yeah, like

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actually you can be so rigid to a thing like

8:03

that and still find it like

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not seem like it's you know, the

8:07

same thing every time, but I tol

8:11

You're like, here we go and then the

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character will return with the new

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skills and yes, yes, yes, yes, yes

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yes. What is something you think is overrated?

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Oh gosh, um, I

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don't know. Again, we

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pulled you into this for people, We

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pulled you in last second you are, yes, yeah,

8:33

I'm normally very prepared

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and studious. Um.

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I would say Kevin Costner

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is the first thing that came to my brain. Kevin

8:42

Costner overrated? Yes,

8:45

you know you know how he's super relevant all

8:47

the train. I feel like we've been talking

8:50

about Kevin Costner in the last month. This

8:52

is the first time costs because we were talking about

8:55

Dances with Wolves and

8:57

what his whole vibe was there. I talked

8:59

about how upset I was that he

9:01

won as a child for that film, the

9:04

Academy Award for Dancing Wolves.

9:07

Was that the year of do the right thing? Or I

9:09

feel like I think it was. It was because

9:11

I think, yes, we were all this was. It was all kind of

9:13

converging about how like fucking

9:16

out of it people were in being

9:18

like, yes, this is the best movie Dances

9:20

with Dancing with the Wolves. I think driving

9:23

this Daisy one for that

9:27

oh but costner one actor costner

9:30

one? Uh, the year after, I

9:32

think is what it is? Oh

9:34

I see, I see, I see. That's oh okay, got you,

9:37

got you. But

9:42

that was such a weird. It was a prestige movie

9:44

that also didn't it have like a McDonald's

9:46

tie in Dances with Wolves? I

9:51

did, Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised

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if somehow they find they found

9:55

Oh I'm now that I google it. Oh

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my god. The it

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was what

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the fuck dances with fast

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food? It was an article written in the Washington

10:07

Post in um,

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dances will have gone sale? Okay,

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so first seven first okay,

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So the movie's coming out, and with

10:17

the purchase of a large sandwich or breakfast sandwich,

10:21

you could be like, hey man, you want to buy you want to cop

10:23

a movie and a big mac hell?

10:26

Yeah, all right, well, oh that's right. They gave

10:28

the movie away. I remember

10:31

that was like a thing when McDonald's

10:33

used to be a place you could purchase a VHS

10:35

tape. I

10:38

was picturing, like you there was somehow

10:40

like Dances with Wolves, toys and

10:42

the Happy Meals. You get some offensive

10:44

like head dress or something. Right,

10:47

It was like, yeah, check out these look, I got the

10:49

whole Dakota Indians set okay,

10:54

eight dollars with the purchase of a sandwich.

10:57

So that's how, that's how it went down. I

10:59

forgot, you know how it's been so

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long, I couldn't tell you how much of VHS tape

11:03

costs back then. Eight dollar seems

11:06

that cheap. I think it's cheap for

11:09

yeah, because I feel like if that's

11:11

like the equivalent because cassette I remember when

11:13

I was a child and I didn't have CD money,

11:16

I had cassette tape money. I wonder

11:18

if it's the same thing like cassette tape VHS

11:20

tape. It's like it's cheap

11:22

to make then fuck it, it's you know, seven

11:24

bucks? Yeah?

11:26

What what else about besides

11:28

his McDonald's tie ins for his

11:32

gentrification? Parable

11:35

uh, hero's journey?

11:37

What? What? What else about Kevin Costner's

11:39

overrated Oh? I mean like

11:42

they tried to make us think that he would be

11:45

a love interest to Whitney Houston and Bodyguard,

11:48

but no, in what

11:50

world would Whitney Houston be interested

11:53

in Kevin Costner? Um?

11:55

And Yeah, I don't know, I just hate a field

11:58

of dreams. I'm sorry. Everybody no

12:00

offense? Wow?

12:02

What what? I

12:06

cannot abide that movie? Um?

12:09

Yeah, I just I don't like anything he's in. I

12:11

don't like him as an actor. I don't know how he got

12:13

famous.

12:16

What water World? Don't get

12:18

me? Started that

12:26

movie like hit me at

12:29

just the right moment of brain development

12:31

where I was I think, like twelve

12:33

or something and was just like, hell, yes,

12:36

this is the cool because it's basically like

12:38

a water park in in movie

12:40

form. Because and then as a

12:43

kid, you can't connect the dots of like climate

12:45

change. You're like, wouldn't that be cool if the water was

12:47

a water world? And jet skis are our cars?

12:50

And I had guilts and I was into drinking

12:52

my own pe so that also tied

12:55

in two of those boxes.

12:57

Huh jet ski and I'm drinking my own

12:59

peanut because I'm

13:01

an adult? What is something

13:03

you think is underrated? Um?

13:06

Again, this is just going to be the first thing that comes

13:08

to my mind. But I just rewatched this movie.

13:10

Mo Wanna Disney's speaking of Disney

13:13

Disney's mo Wanna Now

13:15

you're talking? Uh?

13:20

I love Mohanna. I

13:22

gotta get I'm I have such a blind

13:24

spot for these Disney films like I saw Cocoa.

13:27

That was the last one I saw. Yeah,

13:30

I like Cocoa a lot, and it's just weird because

13:32

I always it's like they're never bad, but

13:34

like the huge, the big ones that like adults

13:36

like universal like, hey, it's pretty good. It's it's

13:39

never you see and you're like that sucked. And I

13:41

don't know if the funk everyone's talking about, like I

13:43

will pleasant experience, I will say Frozen

13:46

is the one that is like has adults

13:48

that I know divided. Some adults really

13:50

like Frozen. I am not a fan. What

13:53

are your thinkings? I am

13:55

not necessary, especially the first

13:57

one the second one. There's problems with

14:00

with both. But I can't

14:03

get on board the Frozen train. Yeah,

14:06

Moanna has uh the I

14:08

think. I think the songbook is written by

14:10

Lynn Manuel Miranda and like you

14:13

can hear it. It has like some Hamilton's

14:15

esque lyrical empirical UH

14:19

type rhymes, but but it also has

14:21

the thing from Hamilton's that I think is underrated,

14:23

where it's like he's good at like tunes,

14:26

like he you know, it's not it's not just rapping,

14:28

it's like also catchy

14:31

little hooks and stuff. I

14:33

mean I'm learning a lot about I was, you

14:35

know, watching my our our niece

14:38

and nephew over the weekend, and man,

14:40

the content that enters children. I'm

14:42

always amazed every time I'm interacting like

14:44

younger family about like, okay, so what you'll

14:46

watch? You want to put some on? Let me see what your kids

14:48

are watching. I'm like, what speaking

14:52

English and they're screaming

14:54

and gibberish and you think it's hilarious.

14:56

I like, I don't even get what the irony is for y'all to

14:58

laugh, aside from the facial express

15:00

Wait, what are what are they watching? There

15:02

was one like Larva Island,

15:06

uh, and I think it's a Korean cartoon, but it's it

15:08

doesn't use any like languages,

15:10

so definitely inner like universal.

15:12

But it's like very simple, like it's these

15:14

you know, characters doing their thing. Then I

15:16

want you know, but then you get it. I talked about this before

15:19

the kid's YouTube stuff. That's

15:22

good. It's like I don't

15:24

know what it is. It's like half

15:27

the time, like it'll be like kids being like yo, we spent

15:29

fourteen thousand dollars at this toy store. I'm

15:31

like, yo, if I saw that as a kid, I would be

15:33

screaming at my parents, you know what

15:35

I mean, Like, Yo, this motherfucker

15:38

on the computer at fourteen opened

15:40

up a fourteen thousand mystery box

15:43

or whatever the funk that ship is. I'm like, I

15:45

don't know. I can see how you could. Already. It

15:47

was bad enough to go to a kid's birthday and see how

15:49

many kids some other kids got for their birthday.

15:52

I don't need to see a fucking channel like I was already.

15:54

I don't know, feeling like a young kid becoming jealous

15:56

of this kid and all their boys. No, they

15:59

like developed mental experts say

16:01

the ship on YouTube, like when you look

16:03

into it and read like, there's this thing called a Little

16:06

baby Bum that's like the most watched

16:08

thing, and it's just cartoons, like very

16:10

badly computer animated

16:12

cartoons, singing like songs

16:15

that very simple, like nursume songs.

16:17

But it's just like absolute garbage.

16:20

Developmental experts are like, yo, this is

16:22

really bad for them. It's

16:25

just watch this. It'll somehow affect their

16:27

reading comprehend Yeah, they won't be able

16:29

to read until they're uh

16:33

right. But Mohanna, we

16:35

we we jumped. Tell

16:39

me about your love of mo

16:41

Wanna. I mean, well, not

16:45

to bring everything full circle

16:47

like the Hero's Journey does, but it

16:50

is a hero's journey, one of

16:52

the few that a lot that affords like

16:55

a female character to be the hero journey.

16:59

Um, it's just so beautiful. Those

17:01

songs are great. This story

17:04

is just so compelling.

17:06

I'm crying the entire time I'm watching

17:08

it. I think a lot of I think

17:10

a lot of adults like you, Miles

17:13

Um, especially if you like don't have kids.

17:15

You just sort of you're like, oh, these

17:18

are these movies aren't for me? Does the animated

17:20

movies animated? Like? They're not I don't need to see

17:22

them, but they're just they're often quite

17:24

good, and MO Wanna is very much

17:28

for me. It's just like I don't want

17:30

to cry again. Sorry

17:35

to put words in your mouth, but it's

17:37

a it's a good cry. It'll

17:40

it'll make you feel happy. Is

17:42

your bawling your eyes out? I don't know. Monna

17:45

is also good because you can play the soundtrack, like

17:47

the soundtrack translates, whereas Coco is a little

17:50

slow, so like my sons aren't that

17:52

into Cocoa when I put that soundtrack

17:54

on. But MO Wanna get some moving.

17:57

Okay, consider the coconut. Yeah,

18:00

is just the kids just turned up for that one. It's like funk

18:02

Flex at the tunnel back in the day. Exactly.

18:05

There's a ritual where every

18:07

every movie we watch, when the closing

18:10

credits come on, and it doesn't matter what the

18:12

closing credits are are, they just get up

18:14

and dance in front of the TV for

18:16

like the whole closing credits. Pretty

18:19

I think I'm going to adopt that the next

18:21

time I'm at a movie theater. Um

18:24

in fourteen years, yes, exactly.

18:27

Uh. Finally in Orange

18:29

County, Yeah, are they

18:32

idea? When

18:35

I was away, I

18:37

dipped into Nevada for a moment

18:40

and saw that Tenant was showing there.

18:42

Um, so it's yeah, and you said it's pretty

18:44

good? Yeah, not bad. Uh,

18:47

just stopped in. You know, it's hard to because

18:49

other people were coughing around. Caitlin.

18:55

Finally, what is a myth? What's up the people think

18:57

it's true? You know? To be false? Service FIRSTA Okay,

19:02

I feel like this is kind

19:04

of common knowledge. I don't know. I think

19:06

people think that like

19:10

productivity should be a measure

19:12

for success, or

19:14

like how productive you are dictates

19:17

like how awesome

19:19

you are. I don't know. I

19:21

just maybe this is just me justifying having

19:24

never accomplished anything in my life.

19:27

But um,

19:32

I think some people think

19:34

that the more productive they are, that

19:37

that should be some kind of measure for

19:40

how much value they have. And

19:43

I would like to I think

19:46

that that's a myth. I think the

19:48

value of a person's character should

19:50

be judged by how well

19:54

y Yeah,

19:59

absolutely, productivity, that's

20:01

just a pilot guard. I mean, at the end of

20:03

the day, like we also have to kind of remind

20:05

ourselves, like anything we do is

20:07

about making ourselves happy, not

20:10

like the reaction that it gets from other people.

20:12

Because when the equations like that, like you'll

20:14

cease to make good art or

20:17

you'll just be You'll just be in this cycle of

20:19

just pleasing other people and making like you know,

20:21

pop music basically where you're like, what's

20:24

the thing that will be good? Rather than like, how can

20:26

I express myself with my skills? You're

20:30

winning if you express yourself. I always say that. Now

20:36

I always agree with you, and

20:40

being kind of others like you were saying, Caitlin,

20:42

oftentimes is the thing that makes

20:44

you feel good or best

20:47

long term, It's true

20:50

you can just keep on the hedonistic

20:52

cycle of you know,

20:54

just trying to achieve and fill the whole,

20:56

but eventually, uh

20:59

for what Yeah, right exactly.

21:02

You can talk about it on some podcast,

21:05

some stupid podcast. Uh,

21:10

but yeah, I think again, Yeah, prolific, Being

21:12

prolific doesn't necessarily mean the best

21:14

thing always. You know, I

21:16

really want the before it's all said

21:19

and done for America

21:22

Donald Trump to like,

21:25

for there to be some revelation

21:27

of just how profoundly unhappy he

21:29

is. Uh. Like, I think it's evident

21:31

to a lot of people who see it, but

21:34

I think there's untold damage

21:36

being done to just like what people

21:39

model as like this is

21:41

what successes from having

21:44

somebody who's so transparently a narcissist

21:47

be the fucking president of

21:49

the United States and to like

21:53

of the country. The like ideal,

21:56

the most baller ship is to have dentures

21:58

and be racist in public with a little consequence.

22:01

That's the top baby, Like, I think that's the only thing

22:03

he's communicating to people. Everyone

22:06

knows he said, anybody. Look, we

22:08

know from the news reports early

22:10

on this dude watches at least seven hours

22:12

of TV straight or throughout

22:15

the day, consistently right, and

22:17

it's all Kevin Costner programs.

22:21

If anything like all that me watching

22:23

that much TV coincides with not the

22:25

best moments in my life or my most

22:27

happy you know what I mean, Like that's usually unemployed

22:30

or something like my job is to basically

22:33

know the whole BRAVL reality verse. That

22:37

might be a skill at some point. Yeah.

22:39

And also that diet

22:42

that he has would be the

22:44

opposite of happiness for me that I

22:46

don't know that. But also there's something of being

22:48

a kid or like McDonald's every day.

22:52

So it's hard to it's really hard to know. I guess it

22:54

really depends on what lends you're looking at it, because you

22:56

could be like, that's so sick, you don't work, You

22:59

just see mc donald's and you watch TV, and

23:01

in a way like that is kind of like that is the Jurish

23:03

American. Yeah, we're

23:05

never gonna beat this guy. All

23:08

right, let's take a quick break and we'll be back. And

23:21

we're back. And as

23:24

you may have heard by now, Ruth baer Ginsburg

23:26

passed away, uh this past

23:29

friday. Yeah, I mean this

23:33

is bad. Uh,

23:37

Yeah, it's just I don't know, you know, I

23:39

was I was like kind of trying to write something about this. I just

23:41

really don't even know where to start, you know, what, to

23:43

talk about this, because there's a few the

23:45

layers to this, like, yes, this is fucking

23:48

awful, but fuck no,

23:50

this is not going to be the end. So

23:53

I was really I think people need to

23:55

wake wake the funk up a little bit,

23:57

because it seems like there's a group

23:59

of people who have just realized that they

24:02

found themselves in America in the your

24:05

and they may need to take a more active

24:07

role in preserving their own rights. Unfortunately,

24:10

I know before it felt like the place you didn't

24:12

have to really worry about anything, but there

24:15

have been plenty of people, uh, screaming

24:17

and hollering for the I don't know, the last few decades

24:20

about how he could get bad, and we're

24:22

sort of there now, and I think,

24:25

you know, there's this feel like

24:27

the sentiment that I see a lot

24:29

was in the joke that's always been going around, is

24:31

like sort of you know, some version of like if you're the

24:34

entire defense of like people's human rights

24:36

in this country was like hinging on Ruth Bader

24:38

Ginsburg being alive, then we have an awful

24:40

fucking democracy and it shouldn't

24:42

be down to this person holding on to

24:44

literally dear life to you know, fight

24:47

the waves of fascism.

24:49

And I think now it's

24:51

weird that her death has made

24:53

a lot of people sort of suddenly wake

24:55

up and say, oh shit, Ships,

24:58

maybe at stake for me now, because before it

25:01

was just for people who worked in unions,

25:03

or people who cared that much about climate,

25:06

or people who were trying to protect reproductive

25:08

rights or civil rights or things like that.

25:11

And now we're at a point where I guess suddenly,

25:13

now this feels like it's truly

25:16

like a like a four alarm fire.

25:19

But I don't know. Part of me has sort of just been kind

25:21

of like I wonder when it's serious enough for a

25:23

majority of people to kind of get the

25:25

same energy, because I know people

25:27

of color, gay people, like anyone

25:30

in the LGBTQ community, immigrants have

25:32

all been looking at these things and like, these are all

25:34

fucking problems. I don't know why no one cares

25:36

now. But then it took Ruth Bader Ginsburg

25:39

to pass away to people be like, oh, Ship, all

25:41

of this stuff is a problem now because it was

25:43

easier to just sort of be comfortable,

25:46

and I don't know it was easier to disengage

25:48

to when you had the security blanket of Ruth

25:50

Bader Ginsburg still being alive.

25:53

Yeah. I also wonder like how

25:55

much of it is just a cycle of

25:58

like it's just endless

26:00

crises and them being you

26:03

know, both heightened like

26:06

panic response and also like

26:08

heightened just feeling exhausted

26:11

by it. And now like as

26:13

reality sets in, we just have to

26:16

make sure that there's action

26:18

being taken, even though I you

26:20

know, I fully agree that it's

26:22

not. This should not have been

26:24

the thing that clued us into the

26:26

fact that our democracies at

26:30

real risk. I think it's interesting,

26:32

like you're talking about sort of the

26:34

people who take their rights for granted.

26:37

It almost sounds like people who are

26:39

like born on second thing and they hit a double

26:41

but with like their own human

26:44

rights, and you know, past generations

26:46

have had to uh fight

26:49

and die for those rights,

26:51

and it sounds like it

26:53

seems like we're getting back to that

26:56

place where active sacrifices

26:58

are going to happen, uh have

27:01

to happen in order to continue

27:03

to live in a free society.

27:07

Yeah, And it's also the anxiety around

27:10

who is going to take her place and

27:12

at what point and who is going to decide

27:15

who that will be? Um,

27:18

because this is kind of like unprecedented

27:20

where it's like, all right, we're like a

27:23

month and a half or less away

27:25

from this election, Like you

27:27

know, is Trump going to try

27:29

to like sneak someone in there at the last

27:32

minute? Like there's

27:34

how do we handle how? How is this going

27:37

to get handled? And just like the panic

27:39

that I'm feeling around that, that a lot of people are feeling

27:42

around that, and I

27:44

just yeah, damns

27:47

are going to have to pull every

27:49

fucking trick out

27:51

of their quiver book, Tom's

27:54

spell book, the fucking Necronomicon,

27:57

where the funk you gotta do to delay

27:59

the funk out disappointment point point.

28:01

That's just step one, Um.

28:04

But there are options, you know, uh

28:06

that we're clearly are That's what I'm saying.

28:08

People really need to be engaged with this because to your

28:10

point, this is a moment for the GOP to

28:12

just completely fuck the courts for

28:15

a for a generation at minimum. Uh,

28:18

And with the things that we have on the

28:20

line with again, reproductive rights,

28:22

the climate, labor rights,

28:25

fucking human rights are healthcare.

28:28

It's not just like oh well, if

28:30

you're like if you if you're this religion

28:33

and live in this part of the country, then that

28:35

Supreme Court decision maybe affects you. There. It's like no,

28:37

no, no, Like they have an agenda, you

28:39

know that they're really trying to pull off. And yes,

28:42

I think there are a lot of things that

28:44

people can feel a little bit more comfortable or at least

28:46

say, Okay, there might be a plan. But

28:49

I think the first thing that I take

28:52

somewhat comfort in is

28:54

that there's at least a few Republicans

28:56

that are willing to not fully just jump.

28:58

The number of Republicans are like, yeah, and we're gonna vote

29:00

on a nominee as when whenever we have

29:02

to, because that's our duty. I mean, Tom Cotton had the

29:04

most uncomfortable appearance on Fox on

29:07

Sunday, where Chris Wallace

29:09

just basically was like, hey, dude, what

29:11

about all this ship you said in like

29:14

you know, and that was like the thing they're doing, and he was just he

29:16

just kind of like glossed over it. It It was like, well,

29:18

you know, now we have n't like it didn't occur

29:21

to him how hypocritical he was being. He just

29:23

stuck to his talking points to say the words

29:25

out loud, and I really laugh at

29:27

some of these democrats and like political

29:30

Twitter people who think pointing to

29:32

the like hypocrisy of the right is

29:34

going to somehow fucking do anything

29:37

to fight this off. Um, we've

29:39

seen this before. These people are not playing the

29:41

same game at all. It's like trying

29:43

to explain to a grizzly bear that's about to eat

29:45

you that your flesh may upset their stomach

29:48

or something and then like what yeah,

29:52

right, or like even reasoning like with a child

29:55

about something about their own It's it doesn't

29:57

matter because the end game is completely

30:00

devoid of those kinds of factors about a

30:02

singular focus to create this like you

30:04

know white ethno state, cis

30:06

patriarchy, Yeah,

30:09

and that does nothing matters to the

30:11

fact that logic

30:14

doesn't work on children, doesn't

30:16

like when you're just fucking exhausted

30:19

and demoralized. It doesn't stop

30:21

you from being from from just uselessly

30:24

arguing logic with

30:26

a with a four year old just

30:29

you know, when you're not your best self, I

30:32

mean to your point, like, yeah, it's scary

30:34

because what the like they're

30:36

going to try and push through confirmation in a lame

30:38

duck session like after the election, they

30:41

might because like we said, they

30:43

the numbers aren't there. The number

30:46

of presidents who have been able to

30:48

appoint Supreme Court nominees have been

30:50

like presidents who lost the popular vote,

30:53

you know what I mean, and these aren't. There's no mandate

30:55

for these justices to be in there at least a pack

30:57

the court like this. So yeah, like look, if

31:00

Biden wins and the Senate is taken

31:02

over, then yeah, we have a little something to

31:04

work with if there's a lame if they try

31:06

and do it in the lame duck, then one of the few

31:09

shots is going to be Martha McSally's race

31:11

in Arizona where she's going up against

31:13

Mark Kelly UM and she's getting

31:16

just destroyed in terms

31:18

of like the polls, like it's it's it's

31:20

really she's really underperforming there because

31:22

she's just been really terrible, awful, shitty

31:24

senator. And Mark Kelly's a fucking

31:27

astronaut. His wife is Gabby

31:29

Gifford's like they're known in the state

31:31

as like good people. So that's

31:33

like the one vote that could come in and obstruct

31:36

uh, you know, Kentucky turtles dream bench,

31:39

you know, nightmare, uh Supreme Court,

31:42

especially if we have people like you know,

31:44

if Lisa Murkowski actually says I

31:46

don't if she sticks to her word and says I don't

31:48

think it's appropriate, Susan Collins, I'm not even

31:50

gonna. I don't care what she says because

31:52

if nothing matters with her. Um, Chuck

31:54

Grassley has intimated maybe

31:56

he's willing to to

31:58

to do what's right. And we still don't know what's going

32:00

on with Mitt Romney. So I

32:03

mean, Lindsay Graham said we could use his words

32:05

against him and they were good. They're right. Yeah,

32:08

No, there's I mean, people are protesting in front of his house,

32:10

in front of Mitch McConnell's house, Like it's definitely,

32:13

I mean, there's Act Blue said they received

32:15

a hundred million dollars in donations

32:17

since the announcement of rbg's

32:20

passing, So people

32:23

look, people definitely understand.

32:25

That's what I'm saying. It's just a little. The energy

32:27

is a lot, which is good because

32:30

people need to be focused, but it's also

32:32

disheartening, I think for a lot of people who have been

32:34

facing a lot of major Supreme Court decisions

32:36

that affect their lives directly, and

32:39

it's kind of like, well m

32:42

M, and I think hopefully this maybe

32:45

we're starting to see how intersectional it all is,

32:48

right, Yeah, yeah, it's it's

32:50

interesting to just look at the right wing media

32:52

because you can always see like the

32:54

workings of the right wing sort

32:57

of collective brain, uh,

33:00

just primary process. Over at Fox

33:02

News, just speaking

33:04

out loud. Tammy Bruce

33:06

from Fox News somehow

33:08

like talked her way into Ruth

33:11

Bader Ginsburg would have wanted Trump

33:14

to replace her, even though they

33:16

specifically have a statement from

33:18

her on her deathbed saying, I just don't

33:21

want you to replace me. Um

33:23

and Tucker Carlson with

33:26

regards to that

33:28

being her dying wish

33:31

uh said, it's hard to believe

33:33

and I'm going to choose not to believe

33:35

that she said that because I don't think that

33:37

people on their deathbeds are think

33:39

about who's president. So

33:45

just the worst. That's

33:47

not like we can't be disappointed, you know what I mean. If

33:50

Orc comes through it eats all your fucking

33:52

dogs and ship, you're gonna be like, what the heck?

33:54

Orc? But that's what the are

33:57

ghouls. They don't give a funk about anything

33:59

to do with someone's humanity or dignity,

34:01

Like because if you did, if they gave

34:03

a funk about humanity or dignity, they

34:05

wouldn't have half the policy positions

34:07

they do, you know what I mean, Like, it's

34:10

not it's never about what's good for the

34:12

the entirety of humanity. It's

34:14

about what's good for a very specific class

34:17

of people and the donors

34:19

who you know, power that specific party.

34:21

And like that's what I'm like, I really hope to see,

34:23

you know, some senators and ship really throw their

34:25

bodies on the pile to try and fucking

34:28

do whatever they have to to delay this,

34:30

even if it means losing seats, Like

34:32

there's not to not to completely

34:34

lose the center or anything like that, but like to really take that

34:36

to understand what the stakes are, not just like I

34:38

gotta get through another election. It's like no, no, no, no. Unfortunately,

34:42

you found yourself at the point where your

34:44

kind of lack of wanting to play dirty

34:46

when they were playing dirty this whole time, has now led

34:48

you to this point and you might actually have to do now

34:51

you're really gonna have to do something on the

34:54

subject of whether uh, like

34:56

we we obviously can't trust Republicans

34:59

to not be

35:01

complete hypocrites. But people are

35:03

talking about how this will affect

35:05

them politically, Like I

35:07

can't imagine that the

35:09

majority of voters would

35:13

be on board with them being that

35:16

hypocritical, right, like that

35:18

that this is something like half of Republican

35:20

voters opposed doing something

35:23

before and that's half of the

35:25

So that's half of a half, right,

35:27

so that's like cent of the country

35:29

is like, yeah, I ram it through funck

35:32

y'all. H. Granted they're probably

35:34

the ones who are most likely to vote for uh

35:37

Senate, but it's still just

35:40

seems like, I don't know, sort

35:42

of you can't full all the

35:44

people all the time type thing where it's

35:46

just like that's I mean, it's

35:49

just like bad, Like no, no,

35:51

nobody is looking at that being like, yes, I

35:53

feel good about being on the winning side

35:55

that you know is doing

35:58

this, I guess except for extreme extreme

36:00

right people. Yeah, well

36:03

that again, it's all about cruelty and

36:06

if if that's what they're if if that's what's

36:08

on the menu, then they're ordering it. Yeah.

36:10

There's also Christian Prayer Warriors on YouTube,

36:13

one group headed by a former Trump

36:16

campaign advisor who rejoiced

36:19

in rbg's death, claiming that it was an act

36:21

of God to get the Trump another Supreme Court

36:23

pick. Uh. These see,

36:26

they're not these are not opinions

36:28

anymore, you know what I mean. There's

36:30

no division. There's no divisiveness

36:33

in the country. You know what I mean. Divisiveness

36:35

is in this city when I laugh at Clippers fans,

36:38

okay, and then I keep it moving, But

36:40

like, I don't go up to someone and be like,

36:42

you are a Clippers fan, therefore you're not a human and you

36:44

don't deserve rights. Like the

36:46

things that there's division on, quote

36:48

unquote, as the right describes it, are about

36:51

fundamental disagreements on who is a

36:53

human being and what what rights

36:55

are owed to a human on

36:58

the within the borders of the United

37:00

States. It's and it's not about all this other

37:02

minutia. It's that they clearly have an idea

37:04

of people who deserve rights and people

37:06

who the funk don't. And I think that's where you miss

37:09

me, because that's are such a cruel worldview

37:11

that I reject that entirely. It's one thing

37:13

if we both go into and be like, yes, I

37:16

believe Okay. So if we're talking about

37:18

medical care, for trans people

37:20

in prison. We're willing to fund

37:23

this much up until this point and then

37:25

hope that they, like these other people

37:27

could Like if if you're not arguing

37:29

about that, but you're trying to figure out ways to get

37:31

there to still give people dignity, then then

37:33

those are opinions because we're still we're still

37:36

on the path towards giving people dignity.

37:39

But when things are about like kneecapping

37:41

people's rights and pulling the rug out from under him

37:43

and then disguising it and all this other ship, you

37:45

know, like that's why like there's

37:47

no, I don't I don't really see how you

37:49

can engage with the GOP at all.

37:51

I mean we've seen it over and over at this point, but like now

37:54

truly, like when they're like, you know, partying

37:57

in the streets because someone died because

37:59

they know like this could be like the true

38:01

death blow to all these other

38:03

rights and things that keep the oligarchical

38:05

class in power and all this other ship, that's

38:08

when we're like, oh, no, no no, no, like these aren't

38:11

people who are have a difference of opinion, Like they're

38:13

here to ruin, to ruin

38:15

us and to do harm. Yeah, it's

38:17

a matter of like, um, people maybe

38:19

like being on the same page or being on

38:21

slightly different pages of the same book and

38:24

then reading from two

38:26

entirely different books,

38:29

one of them being I

38:32

don't even somewhat some

38:35

book that is evil.

38:38

Yeah,

38:41

And I I do just want to say, since

38:43

I guess you guys did a rewatch the

38:46

Social Dilemma, I just watched it, uh

38:48

the other night. But the Prayer

38:50

Warrior YouTube people are

38:53

probably the

38:56

more extreme, like ten percent of

38:58

the right, So I I don't want

39:00

to make it seem like everybody and who

39:04

has ever voted Republican is dancing

39:06

on Ruth Bader Ginsburg's

39:09

grave. Okay, just be

39:11

half of them,

39:12

right, Yeah, And supriser

39:14

Anojsnier is pointing out that there are it's

39:17

also not you know, monolithic

39:19

in terms of people on the left's

39:21

response to you know, rbg's

39:24

legacy. There's definitely people who

39:26

pointed out that, you know, she had some

39:30

less than stellar, less

39:32

than like supportive comments about the

39:34

Black Lives Matter protests, and

39:36

head voted on the barbaric

39:39

side of a couple of things like the pipeline

39:42

going through indigenous lands. So

39:44

I mean, yeah, it feels to me is though, Um,

39:47

a lot of her agenda

39:49

in her career was fueled

39:52

by specifically

39:54

white feminism and not

39:56

necessarily all of it. But like she was,

39:59

she was a white woman serving

40:02

perhaps predominantly other

40:04

white women. Um,

40:07

and that is

40:09

not okay. White feminism

40:12

is any feminism that is not intersectional,

40:15

Uh, is not

40:18

helpful. Uh

40:21

so yeah,

40:24

yeah, she appointed by

40:26

Clinton? Yeah? Clinton? So

40:29

I mean, uh,

40:32

that's what I'm saying. The other thing is with well,

40:35

let's you know, let's play out a fantasies and there,

40:37

let's feel good for a moment Biden wins.

40:39

Okay, the Senate is terms blue,

40:42

the House is blue, and

40:44

let's say they did to do the unthinkable

40:47

and confirm what Amy

40:49

Coney Barrett or whatever. I know, they

40:51

say it's pregnant nominated woman because he doesn't want

40:53

to go through you know, the Kavanaugh thing again,

40:56

because you know, potentially anyone he thinks

40:58

is good as a man probably high ants that

41:00

they're on onto some bullshit, or anybody who

41:02

works with for that matter. But at that

41:04

point, if Biden has all

41:06

three chambers, like I mean, there's stuff like Larry

41:08

Nadler and Ship talking about you know, Okay,

41:11

then let's really turn it up. Let's

41:13

add DC in Puerto Rico. Let's

41:15

give them statehoods. Now we have four more senators.

41:18

Let's expand the House. Now

41:21

I have more members. Let's also expand

41:23

the Supreme Court. So now we have I

41:25

don't know, let's call it fucking nineteen justices.

41:29

Now we can actually address this, like, you

41:32

know, sort of artificial imbalance. I mean, there's

41:34

a lot that could happen there that is

41:36

you know, isn't necessarily in the outline

41:39

in the constitution like that that is

41:41

all possible. So I think that's where

41:43

now Democrats have to think, like what

41:45

are these contingencies that they're gonna do. But in

41:47

my head, it's like you should have done a lot of this ship anyway,

41:50

Like it was always this weird thing

41:52

of trying to play fair with these goons

41:55

and they never were going to and then you just keep

41:57

giving up, giving up get like giving up more

42:00

rights and giving up seating more ability

42:03

to secure like a stability

42:06

for people. And yeah, I guess would

42:08

do anything like when Mitch McConnell

42:10

did the thing in where he delayed

42:13

Obama's pick and just wouldn't vote on

42:15

it until the election. Is there like

42:18

something Democrats could have done to push

42:21

that through or is it just like that

42:23

was kind of too late they

42:26

could have I mean, I think they're worth maybe

42:29

I'm trying to think specifically legislatively,

42:31

there was uh

42:35

yeah, and Dan, you can just that

42:37

shorten this. Yes, there are tools,

42:40

but the what what what

42:42

was required was to go into the dirty tool

42:45

kit and rather

42:47

than the regular tool kit. But the thing is

42:49

the Republicans they've been steady fucking with the

42:51

dirty tool kit for a minute, and we're like, what

42:53

the funk these tools don't work anymore because

42:55

it's awful, right right, All

42:58

right, let's take a quick break and we'll

43:00

come back and talk some pop culture. Ship and

43:13

we're back. Uh, and let's

43:17

talk protest songs. Guys. Um,

43:20

there's this like Boomer gen

43:22

X thing that I heard a

43:25

lot when Trump got nominated. It was like Trump's

43:27

gonna be great for music, Like just think about

43:30

all the protest songs, which I guess

43:32

is based on memories of Bob Dylan and Marvin

43:34

Gay and uh, Stevie

43:36

Wonder and ship like

43:39

that. But first of all, it ignores the

43:41

fact that Pimpa Butterfly came out during the Obama

43:43

administration, and there was great

43:46

protest music being made already,

43:49

but um, the I

43:52

don't know the protest songs

43:55

that they're looking for. I don't think a're ever

43:57

going to be written. And I think

44:00

a good example of that is Van

44:02

Morrison Raid uh,

44:05

performer of Brown Eyed Girl, just

44:08

released three protests songs.

44:10

Uh. Finally we have some protest

44:12

music. Uh. And they are protests

44:15

against the UK government's coronavirus

44:17

lockdown measures uh,

44:20

in which he reportedly reportedly

44:23

accused the scientists of making up crooked

44:25

facts. Uh. So I'm

44:27

just gonna read one song uh.

44:30

And it's subtle stuff, so I wanna I want

44:32

you guys to pay close attention to see if you can

44:34

uh find the message in

44:37

the allegory here. So the

44:39

song is called no more Lockdown, uh,

44:42

and hold on, let's take a second and bring that no

44:46

more Okay. I'll

44:49

let me think on that one, but I don't want to hold it up to go on.

44:51

Okay. The chorus is

44:53

no more lockdown, no more government

44:56

overreach, no more fascist

44:58

bullies disturbing our peace.

45:01

Uh. And then no more taking our freedom and

45:04

our God given rights, pretending it's for

45:06

our safety when it's really to

45:08

enslave. What's what

45:11

rhyme scheme? Are you using their taking

45:16

old alfredom and all

45:19

giving rights, pretending it's for

45:21

h safety when it's really a two

45:24

enslave with

45:29

rights exactly all

45:31

of the rights, all of the rights. Like

45:33

I don't know, I don't know. He's

45:36

a night yeah, ser

45:38

Van. Uh. He's

45:40

previously caused controversy by denouncing

45:43

what he called the pseudo science

45:45

around coronavirus. Uh. He

45:48

issued a call to his quote

45:51

fellow singers, musicians, writers, producers,

45:53

promoters, and others in the industry to

45:55

fight with me on this. Come forward, stand

45:58

up, fight the pseudo science and speak up.

46:00

Uh. And this was because the seventy

46:03

five year old said socially distanced

46:05

gigs were not economically

46:08

viable. Yeah. Like, motherfucker,

46:10

how much money do you need? Also,

46:13

motherfucker? You look like you like you

46:15

get all your style cues from James Dolan

46:17

with your Fedora and

46:20

ship. You are lame bro. Your

46:22

name is George George

46:24

Morrison is really yeah,

46:27

George Ivan Morrison. That's where the van

46:29

comes from. But I get it. Anyone

46:31

in the Fedora isn't really like that cool,

46:33

Like I mean in the sense of like they have internal coolness

46:36

unless you were like actually rocking the Fedora from back in

46:38

the day, like Fedora now might

46:40

as well just you might as well just be like somebody

46:43

hurts you. There's a whole

46:45

thing with like rock stars

46:47

in the UK who are like coming out

46:51

as very out of touch

46:53

on this particular subject. One of the Oasis

46:56

brothers came out it

46:59

was like, masks are pointless, I

47:01

don't wear one, and then uh,

47:03

the Stone Roses song

47:10

um, and then the Stone

47:12

Rose the singers also come out and said

47:15

some dumb ship Uh Ian

47:19

Yeah, Ian, they're gonna Ian Brown.

47:21

Yeah, yeah, the one. They

47:24

all him and the Gallagher brothers all kind of

47:26

looked the same. Yeah for sure.

47:29

All right, Well let's get back to our

47:32

heroes on this side of the pond. Ellen

47:35

is back on TV. WHOA.

47:40

So she had the spookiest

47:43

season premiere I've ever seen,

47:46

where like she comes out you hear

47:48

fucking audience. There's no reverse shot

47:51

to show the audience like, oh ship, she's out

47:53

here. Um, And they

47:55

were all virtual, like they put

47:57

like TVs in the seats people

48:00

could like face time in and like so

48:02

she could just be looking at a bunch of like pixelated

48:04

giant faces in her studio. Um.

48:07

But I think the thing that most people tuned in for was

48:10

this is the first season since the

48:13

reckoning or the diet reckoning of

48:15

that show where it was all the sort

48:17

of workplace abuse and like toxic

48:20

environment, uh, sexism,

48:22

racism, the great schism

48:24

that broke apart the Catholic Church. Everything apparently

48:27

occurred on the Ellen de Generes show, but it

48:29

was really really bad. And so yeah,

48:32

this is her coming out to be like, it's time to address

48:34

this stuff, and I just want to kind of play a

48:36

little bit of it. She she talks for a little

48:38

bit, but I don't know if

48:41

I don't know if she's learned her lesson. Um.

48:44

She says she wants to take this on directly,

48:46

and I'll just play this clip and then I think we can talk about

48:49

it. On the other side. I'm so happy to

48:51

be back in the studio. There are a lot of things I want

48:53

to talk about. I've been looking forward to addressing

48:55

it all directly, and unfortunately

48:57

talking directly to people has been illegal for six

49:00

months, so I have a virtual audience here

49:02

instead. Here you all are you

49:05

look beautiful? And I'm sure you smell right. That's

49:07

what I'm imagining anyway. All right, let's

49:10

get to it. Okay. I just

49:12

like that. That was her segue into

49:14

addressing her toxic work

49:17

hine, you smell great. All right, let's

49:20

get into it. Heard.

49:23

The whole thing opens with her like

49:26

the clip that leads into that clip

49:28

is her basically being like, Hey,

49:30

how's everybody doing. I've been just

49:33

great, like the joke being great, what

49:35

a bad summer she had? But it's

49:38

like, this is not something that happened

49:40

to you, Like I I'm sure

49:43

that the people who she surrounds

49:45

herself with treat it like what

49:47

a tragedy for Ellen, because there's like no

49:49

non awkward way to just be like, man, you were

49:52

fucked up to those people. Uh

49:54

so, But yeah,

49:57

it just seems like she's treating it as like a

49:59

tragedy that fell her. Yeah, and

50:01

then well then we'll see who I think maybe

50:03

she feels is ultimately responsible to this

50:06

summer. There were allegations of a toxic work

50:08

environment at our show, and then

50:10

there was an investigation. I learned

50:12

that things happened here that never should have happened.

50:15

I take that very seriously. And I want to say I

50:17

am so sorry to the people who were affected.

50:20

I know that I'm in a position of privilege and

50:22

power, and I realized that with that comes

50:24

responsibility, and I take responsibility

50:27

for what happens at my show. That's just

50:29

just I want to pause that. I want to give a shout out to Peter

50:31

Parker and yeah,

50:36

back to her. This is the Ellen Degenerous

50:38

Show. I am Ellen de Generous. My

50:40

name is there, my name is there,

50:43

my name is on underwear? Is

50:47

it. We have had a lot of

50:49

conversations over the last few weeks about the show,

50:51

our workplace, and what we want for the future.

50:54

We have made the necessary changes and today

50:56

we are starting a new chapter. Okay,

50:59

so like

51:07

Toxic, it will be

51:09

even more passive aggressive than normal.

51:12

It's um again, I've made

51:14

the necessary Again. This still sounds like someone

51:17

who was sort of like I didn't know what

51:19

was going on in my factory. You

51:21

know, it's not it's

51:23

not actually addressing. There are things that firsthand

51:26

deal with her behavior as well. And

51:28

granted, yes there were producers who were abusive

51:31

and needed to be let go, and they were so

51:33

yeah, they did that part, but it sort of continues

51:35

like this thing of still kind of giving

51:37

herself a little bit of room to be

51:40

like, I'm not that bad. There were also

51:43

articles in the press and on social media

51:45

that said that I am not who I appeared to be on

51:47

TV because I became known

51:49

as the be kind Lady. And um,

51:52

here's how that happened. I started saying

51:54

be kind one another after a young man named

51:56

Tyler Clemente took his own life after

51:59

being bullied for being gay. I thought

52:01

the world needed more kindness, and it was

52:03

a reminder that we all needed that, and I think

52:05

we needed more than ever right now. Being

52:09

known as the I think she held for applause

52:11

there. Yeah, sure,

52:15

she kind of she kind of scanned the screens

52:18

as they were going anyone. Uh.

52:20

And then I'll just play like just sort of a little bit of

52:22

this last part and that we're talking about it. So let

52:25

me give you some advice out there. If anybody is thinking of changing

52:27

their title or giving yourself a nickname, do not go

52:29

with the be kind Lady. And that's a joke.

52:32

And then she goes on to a few other jokes, and then the

52:34

one part where it begins to sort of address herself

52:36

is just sort of like, look, guys, I'm impatient

52:39

sometimes and I get anxious and I'm

52:41

working on that, all

52:44

right, Okay, So

52:46

she's barely holding herself accountable.

52:49

She's I feel like, not acknowledging that she

52:51

was complicit in a lot of other people's

52:54

bad behavior. She's

52:57

the whole thing is so vague and

52:59

so eric. Then the apology

53:01

is a non apology, Like everything about

53:04

that is like yucky and

53:07

just too vague mean anything. Yeah,

53:09

And I wasn't sure if like she was trying to use

53:12

the be kind origin story

53:14

as like a way to say, like inspire

53:16

people to give her a break, to like, don't

53:18

be mean to me, Like, hey, everyone should

53:21

be kind, even in the face of meat. This

53:23

stuff coming out about me can also

53:25

be kind to me. It could be kind

53:27

to me, And remember how I love

53:30

kindness, Like it doesn't that

53:32

endear you to me? And it's like it's

53:35

a little yeah, so you

53:38

know, I I thought you would be like say

53:40

something like, look, yeah, I fucking hid little beans

53:42

around my house to make sure my staff was

53:44

cleaning up and if they didn't, they would be fired

53:47

or what a match sticks and ship, But that's

53:49

actually at my house and nothing to do with the Ellen de Gender

53:51

show. So let's not get sidetracked here. For what

53:53

happened here, I didn't have anything to do with it, and I fired

53:56

them, So let's do the Millie Rock. Yes,

53:59

I fired them and I enjoyed the

54:01

hell out of it. That's I

54:03

feel like she gets life from

54:05

firing people, and in fact, I think that's what some

54:07

of the stories were that she insists

54:10

on doing the firing orself, do you think do we think

54:12

she should have come back? Or unless

54:14

you use this to actually have a moment for growth

54:17

and you're using your platform to show people

54:19

like yeah, I was kind of a piece of ship, y'all. Like

54:21

I'm really trying to own that out in public.

54:24

Uh, and you shouldn't do that and I'm learning,

54:26

Or do you do the thing? We're like, don't suck up the bag,

54:29

don't suck up the bag. Apologize just enough

54:31

to keep the advertisers there and then the people

54:33

who are the haters, fuck them because there are still

54:35

enough people who we can zoom in here to be the audience.

54:39

Yeah. I think probably

54:41

that second way is not the way

54:43

to do it. I think it would have either been better for

54:45

her to actually own it, show

54:48

growth, and also start being

54:50

more mean when she's

54:52

like on air, so it's like not as

54:55

disingenuous, like if she just

54:57

became the queen of mean uh,

55:00

like please don't put your feet on my couch. That

55:04

was something that she said, was like

55:07

I'm not that good of an actress, Like I couldn't

55:09

come like what who you see every

55:11

day is me? She's straight

55:16

And it's like, why are we doing jokes again

55:18

because we're still talking about this. Yeah,

55:22

I think that um, in

55:24

cases like this, I don't know, I'm

55:27

I'm compelled to think that she should just sort of she

55:30

should apologize, hold herself

55:33

accountable, show her accountability,

55:35

and then maybe just sort of like fall

55:38

back into obscurity, like take

55:40

her bazillions of dollars donated

55:42

to good causes and then give that platform

55:45

to someone else who deserves it more

55:47

and who hasn't been a complete ship head and

55:50

you know, isn't some awful

55:53

tyrant to her colleagues.

55:59

I mean, yeah, that would have that would have ensured you

56:01

have a good comeback. Is if you said,

56:03

hey, you know, honestly, I gotta

56:05

take I gotta take some time and I want to put

56:07

this person on I'm gonna give some money, and

56:10

then people were like, wow, okay, you

56:12

didn't. You didn't keep it going. And I think if you came

56:14

back, if she came back and was sort

56:16

of like, you know, I was in the lab working

56:18

on myself when really they weren't people,

56:20

there would still be the optics of people being like, wow,

56:23

okay, then maybe it's we can we can forget

56:25

about that. We can just paper that over right, right,

56:28

all right, let's talk about the thing

56:31

that I think we've all been waiting

56:33

to talk about. I been waiting for you specifically.

56:36

Yeah, that is Red

56:39

Lobsters, Mountain dew Do

56:42

Garrita. This show has been

56:44

total idiocracy. In one go, we're

56:46

like, oh, yeah, the Supreme Court balance

56:48

could be irreversed, like irreversibly fucked

56:50

for generations to come. What do we do? Do we

56:53

fucking take to the streets and like harass

56:55

our leaders And then we're like, read,

57:01

um, I don't I don't know what people are

57:03

hoping to hear from me other than

57:06

I I fully support this. Don't come

57:08

to far our takes on the Supreme Court, Please just

57:10

come far our takes on like movies on Netflix, the

57:13

occasional political hottake, but also

57:15

all mountain dew. Oh yeah, and we're we're still

57:17

working our way through Cobra Kai and

57:21

the last so what we'll get to them.

57:23

That'll that'll be the rewatch for this week.

57:25

But um yeah. So

57:27

as far as the dougarrita, I have not sampled

57:29

it. I do not drink, but I

57:32

might need to go get a virgin little

57:35

Virgi dougar rita um and

57:37

see see how it sits.

57:40

I don't know if that would just be mountain dew with ice,

57:43

but I

57:45

don't think they

57:48

do have a line in there. So already

57:51

you pull it up to the red lobster bar and you're

57:53

like, hey, let me get a virgin dougar rita,

57:55

and the guys versus behind the bar, it's like, what

58:00

serious? Right here? Do you want it in the

58:02

glass? I can do that all

58:04

right. Here's a mountain dew in the could

58:07

you put a cherry in it place? Well, it says there

58:09

are in addition to mountain

58:12

dew, and what I'm guessing is tequila,

58:14

there are apparently a few other

58:17

special ingredients, so maybe

58:19

it's maybe it's like mountain dew plus

58:22

I don't know, simple syrup disgusted

58:29

taking it all the way back, y'all. Yeah,

58:33

a little dexidrin, uh get

58:35

get things going? Does the whole

58:37

thing with Like, I didn't know what

58:40

kind of bar does Mount Red

58:42

Lobster havebs that have a full bar? I

58:45

had no idea. I've never, like,

58:47

I definitely associate certain chain restaurants

58:50

like out Back with having a

58:52

bar, but I

58:54

don't think maybe done

58:57

well like Olive Garden

59:00

a full bar usually, and I feel like Red

59:02

Lobster and Olive Garden are very much

59:05

they're cut of the same. Yeah,

59:07

it's weird because most of the time I've

59:11

i haven't been a Red Lobster in a minute, But when I was going,

59:13

I would typically wasn't like had the income

59:15

where I would buy alcohol when I ate it out,

59:18

so I would never even think to look at an

59:20

alcohol And I'm like, look, man, I'm here

59:22

for fucking lobster fest some biscuits,

59:24

and I'm out because I sold like an eighth on

59:26

the way in here to minus this. But like

59:29

so I'm curious now, like because part of like when

59:31

I look at I'm like, where is the confirmation that there's

59:33

alcohol in this? Even? Right?

59:36

Yeah? I mean, I think it would

59:38

be kind of false advertising. Like

59:40

it's not even a called a dou

59:42

garrita, and it sounds

59:45

too much like dungarees personally.

59:49

Uh. It's also they have

59:52

it rocks, they don't have it like blended

59:55

or like the icy blended.

59:58

Let me get a Cadillac dou garrita then yeah.

1:00:02

And it's also the picture

1:00:04

that they've put out as part of

1:00:07

the announcement is

1:00:09

very lime forward, so maybe

1:00:12

maybe it's a type of mountain dew

1:00:14

like I think, you know, vault is supposed

1:00:16

to be like berry forward. I

1:00:18

think I forget. I forget, like what all the different

1:00:20

ones are Baha blasting. I

1:00:23

know Baja blast is Baja forward,

1:00:26

uh, but what I

1:00:28

don't like this one seems like they might have like

1:00:30

put a lime accent

1:00:34

within and with the mountain dewing finn

1:00:36

Fin. Maybe it's just like Tamarindo

1:00:38

rimmed glass with mountain

1:00:41

dew, tequila and lime juice. Just

1:00:44

keep it moving. And then

1:00:46

in kind of inverse of this situation,

1:00:49

a writer Jam mcnapp pointed out Taco bell

1:00:52

Uh is trying to use booze to class

1:00:54

up their restaurants and is offering Taco

1:00:56

Bell branded wine in Canada,

1:00:59

there debuting custom

1:01:01

wine called how the Pago Noir to

1:01:05

pair with it's toasted cheesy chalupa,

1:01:08

which the toasted cheesy chaloopa looks

1:01:10

amazing. So I'm they

1:01:13

got rid of the Mexican pizza. I

1:01:16

know why we didn't talk about this on

1:01:18

the show because if we were discussing this, you

1:01:20

know happened and the

1:01:22

priorities of the show changed a bit. But I

1:01:26

do want to say, r I p to the Mexican pizza. You

1:01:28

know what they like. I don't

1:01:30

think there's like

1:01:32

that that can't be a popular decision. I don't.

1:01:35

I don't know many people who go to Taco

1:01:37

Bell and don't at least funk with a Mexican

1:01:39

pizza once in a while. Like that, it's

1:01:42

delicious, the the whatever,

1:01:45

the pizza dough, which is just basically a fried to

1:01:47

ship tortilla that's so greasy you can't

1:01:49

even believe. I love

1:01:51

it. But it's not like it has ingredients

1:01:53

that would be more expensive than like

1:01:56

it's the same. Part

1:01:58

of me is like getting you know, it's I

1:02:00

just feel like an old like a Taco Bell

1:02:03

truth or or something. If there was something like them like

1:02:05

it ain't the same, and you know the people behind it

1:02:07

they got they got this other agenda to

1:02:09

get you to eat healthy. It's not to live

1:02:12

Moss, it's actually a living mennos Well

1:02:17

ship. So to recap,

1:02:20

I thumbs

1:02:22

up the do Garrita and we'll be trying

1:02:24

a version one at some point in the

1:02:26

not too distant future. Caitlin

1:02:29

also into recap. RBG is dead.

1:02:32

The Supreme Court is the entire

1:02:35

democracy hangs in the balance, right

1:02:37

wing meetings throwing everything and also

1:02:39

that other stuff. But also do Garrita sounds

1:02:41

too much like dungers. Thank you. If

1:02:46

anyone has a connected red

1:02:48

lobster that can give us a little more insight. Look, we're

1:02:50

not gonna call any names out, but like, help us out here.

1:02:53

We want to know. Let us secret. You know, we know it's

1:02:55

like gang strong. We know we're pervasive. We're out there. We

1:02:57

want ingredients. Uh

1:03:00

alright, flavor profile Caitlin,

1:03:03

it's been a pleasure of having you. Where can people find

1:03:05

you and folly you can well,

1:03:08

first of all, thank you so much for having me. You

1:03:10

can follow me on Twitter

1:03:13

and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. You can go to that

1:03:15

website that I had mentioned earlier, Caitlin

1:03:18

Durante dot com. If you are

1:03:20

interested in UM any

1:03:22

of my screenwriting classes or

1:03:24

one day workshops or any

1:03:28

script notes that I provide, you

1:03:30

can find information note that good

1:03:32

notes. UM. That information

1:03:35

is on my website as well. And

1:03:38

then another thing I would love to plug

1:03:41

and Anna, I don't know if you want to help

1:03:43

me out here, but Um, Jamie

1:03:46

and I of the Bechtel Cast are presenting

1:03:49

a live read of the Twilight

1:03:51

screenplay this Friday,

1:03:53

September. Um. It's

1:03:56

going to be a stellar

1:03:59

cat pust of myself

1:04:02

and Jamie plus Anna Jsnier

1:04:04

and Sharene Lana Unice as well

1:04:06

as Cromadanqua and Jess Merwin

1:04:08

filling out the cast. UM. And

1:04:11

it's gonna be a disaster. It's gonna be amazing.

1:04:14

I can't I don't know if you know who you're playing

1:04:16

yet, Anna, but it's some there's some good

1:04:18

stuff happening for you. And

1:04:22

yeah, it's uh, it's gonna be a blast.

1:04:24

So we're doing it to support the campaign

1:04:27

of Fatima Aball Zubert.

1:04:29

She's a uh, she's running

1:04:31

for UM State Assembly

1:04:33

in California, and she's

1:04:36

an amazing progressive candidate

1:04:38

and we're supporting her campaign. So, uh,

1:04:41

information about that also can be found

1:04:43

on my website. Uh yeah,

1:04:46

so check it out right.

1:04:49

And is there a tweet or some other work of

1:04:51

social media you've been enjoying? Well

1:04:54

ties back to this. This comes

1:04:56

from um friend

1:04:58

of the show, Jamie Loftus.

1:05:01

She tweeted just an hour

1:05:04

ago at the time of this recording, in

1:05:06

a brave act of subversion, I've decided

1:05:08

to have a crush on Robert Pattinson again.

1:05:12

I fully I'm there with you, Jamie.

1:05:15

It's brave, it's

1:05:17

subversive. Go back. What

1:05:20

is that movie Netflix? Movie that just

1:05:22

got released that he's starring in. Is that worth

1:05:25

checking out? Oh? Is it Devil

1:05:28

Devil all the Time? Yes, I haven't

1:05:30

seen it yet, but it is on my to do list. It

1:05:34

Um, Miles, where can people find you? What's tweet

1:05:36

you've been enjoying? Twitter? Instagram?

1:05:38

Miles of Gray, the other podcast

1:05:41

for twenty Day Fiance. We're Sophia

1:05:43

Alexander and I just talk ninety day Fiance. You

1:05:46

know what's what's still right with the world? Um?

1:05:49

Yeah, check check all that out. A tweet that I

1:05:52

like, Um, it was also from Jamie

1:05:54

Loftus actually and has a lot to do with

1:05:56

this reading at Jamie Loftus helped

1:05:58

tweets in my day, we paid eighteen

1:06:00

dollars to see Taylor Latton or fall in love with the

1:06:02

baby and not questioned it for a single moment.

1:06:08

Okay, so now Jack, you have to find another

1:06:11

tweet from Jamie specifically

1:06:13

about Twilight. It's

1:06:16

not about Twilight, but I

1:06:19

did recently like a tweet by Jamie Loftus.

1:06:22

Have been told I handle earthquakes like

1:06:24

quote someone from Boston, which

1:06:27

could be anything, but definitely it's not a compliment,

1:06:30

uh earthquake over

1:06:32

the weekend. Earthquake reaction shaming

1:06:34

is so funny, like like like

1:06:37

Native l A people don't have the shittiest

1:06:39

rep anyway, like the hundreds of memes that

1:06:41

are made about us, like oh yeah,

1:06:43

okay, you yeah, you're from Boston, Okay,

1:06:46

Like and then where are you from there? Like I'm from Tempy

1:06:48

and I just moved out here seven years ago, so I'm

1:06:51

basically from here. I'm here and

1:06:53

I will reject who I was before I came

1:06:56

here completely. And if I saw someone who knew me before

1:06:58

I lived here, I would act like I don't know them. I've

1:07:00

lived through a three point two, so no

1:07:03

big deal. Um was

1:07:05

that a four or five over the weekend?

1:07:09

Say ship bro Um.

1:07:12

Also, Hunter Harris tweeted Blake Shelton being

1:07:15

named sexiest man alive was the beginning of the end,

1:07:17

and I think that's probably a good timeline

1:07:20

for how we got into

1:07:22

this mess. You can find

1:07:24

me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh Brian,

1:07:26

you can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeys

1:07:28

for at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We

1:07:31

have a Facebook fan page and a website,

1:07:33

daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post our

1:07:35

episodes and our foot notes were

1:07:38

link off to the information we talked about

1:07:40

in today's episode, as well as the song

1:07:43

we ride out on smiles.

1:07:46

What are we riding out on? Two days? Is

1:07:48

from Sneak San.

1:07:50

It's called Satan. It's called nine as we

1:07:52

said, Satan, it's actually Satin psychedelic.

1:07:55

Oh man, you know, got got Satan on the

1:07:57

brain. Um, But it's called Satin psyche

1:08:00

adelic and it just got like again, it's

1:08:02

it's a kind of like a futuristic retro

1:08:05

bossa Nova vibe. So if

1:08:07

you like a little bit of you know, some

1:08:09

Brazilian samba feelings and basslines

1:08:11

and rhythms. This is right up your alley, but also

1:08:14

has like kind of a future vibe

1:08:16

to it as well, so in a way you could feel

1:08:18

like you're regressing and going to the past where times

1:08:20

are simpler. Would also keep your eyes firmly

1:08:23

planted in the future where it could be a house game,

1:08:25

so you know, enjoy this track. Satin

1:08:27

is by far more enjoyable to encounter

1:08:30

on psychedelics than Satan. That

1:08:32

would say, uh, yeah, it's

1:08:34

funny. I have a there's a very

1:08:37

family history story, a myth in

1:08:39

our family about Satan and psychedelics.

1:08:42

That yeah, fabric,

1:08:45

any fabric on psychedelics looks very

1:08:47

cool compared to off psychedelics.

1:08:51

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