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Well, Miles, We are thrilled to

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be joined in our third seat by a brilliant

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and talented writer and reporter

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who's currently exposing the shockingly

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blatant and out in the open gangs

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of the l A Sheriff's Department

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for not l A her in depth

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fifteen part report A Tradition

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of Violence is basically

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mandatory reading for anyone who

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cares about justice and civics

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and sociology in

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America anywhere. Really. Welcome

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back to the show series, Cassa.

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What's up? Thanks for ding

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me back? Hey, thanks for coming back back.

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How are you thinking? What's new? What's what's

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the how's how's the weather? How are you? What's

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What's a good question to ask people these days?

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That isn't how are you doing? The

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weather is hot? The sheriff's are

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busy abusing people, and

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I am busy on their tails.

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Yeah, okay, so things are things are

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moving as they should be at the moment. It sounds

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like pretty much. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, we definitely ask you a little bit more

2:38

about what's going on since the

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piece that you dropped with knock l A came out,

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because I from my standpoint,

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I feel like it's a lot has been happening

2:47

um ever since, with especially with like

2:50

the increased awareness around the gangs

2:52

in the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.

2:54

And I love that hashtag too, or whenever

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weople saying google l A s D Gangs,

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that's just the thing we want to say to everybody listening

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to the show, Google that L A s D gangs

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when you have a second, which should be right now,

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Yeah, go read the piece. Go read the piece.

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All right, Well, series, we're gonna

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get to know you a little bit better, catch up on all

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that in a little bit. First, we're gonna

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tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

3:18

In addition to the L A s D

3:20

Gangs, we're gonna talk about the revelation

3:22

from the Pentagon that some of

3:24

the Haitian president's assassins were

3:27

trained by US military.

3:29

They said a small number of the

3:31

assassins, which was still

3:35

probably too many. So we're gonna talk

3:37

about that and talk about just the general

3:39

atmosphere of mercenaries

3:42

like a world run by mercenaries

3:44

that we're kind of looking looking at

3:47

in the future. Will talk about drones

3:49

for the home, another way that

3:52

you can buy your way into

3:54

like military supremacy.

3:57

Uh, hey, did

3:59

you want to crowdfund surveillance. Yeah,

4:03

And we'll talk about hines trying to even

4:06

things up, to bring some

4:09

some sanity to this world by making

4:11

it so that hot dog buns and

4:13

hot dogs come in the same number

4:16

container or packaging. Oh,

4:19

okay, that's always something I think about. There's a

4:21

few places that the

4:23

number of buns matches the number of francs

4:26

that you get, and when they do, it's always

4:28

eight francs to match the eight

4:30

buns. It's never ten buns to

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match the ten hot dogs. Five

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packs that eight to get to forty and

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then you have a number divisible by ten, and then

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you see and that's how they get you. That's how they

4:45

get you. And see the matrix already all

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of that plenty more. But first series, we

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like to ask our guests, what is something

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from your search history. The last

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thing that I searched for

4:56

was l A County election filing.

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Very exciting l A County

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Election FI. What is this in relation

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to specifically what what races.

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Well, we do have the race for sheriff

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coming up in June of two.

5:12

We just had a candidate announced

5:15

last week by the name of Cecil

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Rambo. Mr Rambo is

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alleged to be an associate of

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at least three different deputy

5:23

gangs. So I was

5:26

checking in to see what

5:28

other gang affiliates of throwing

5:31

their hat into the race, right,

5:33

Is it just Alex Llanueva? Is it

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this Cecil Rambo not just a clever

5:38

name? I guess god given

5:41

name? Yes, that really his name

5:43

because that is his name? Wow? Hell yeah?

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Is Villaneueva up? Like is he not running?

5:49

He is running? Yeah, he's running for reelection.

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Cecil Rambo is like that dudes to left

5:54

wing let me get out here and uh really

5:56

reped the gangs. Cecil

5:58

Rambo actually and his announcement

6:01

video, he said that he

6:03

is one of the only people that has stood

6:05

up to deputy gangs, which is a common

6:08

refrain of people that are actually

6:10

alleged to be a part of the gangs themselves.

6:13

How do they square that when they're like, when

6:16

you're like, um, it looks like there's

6:18

documentation to indicate you're involved.

6:20

In the gang, but you stood up to be like the

6:22

one day You're like, hey, let's not do too much gang

6:25

stuff today. So like,

6:27

I don't what what what? What is sort of the logic

6:29

that they apply to be able to sort of say something like that a

6:31

lot, or it's just merely an empty talking point. Um,

6:34

It's something that I want to dive more

6:36

into. I'm planning to speak with c.

6:38

Soul in the coming days, so I'm really interested

6:41

to see, you know, how he sort of

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squares the allegations that have

6:46

flown around him for the past

6:49

ten plus years, as

6:51

well as various lawsuits

6:53

that have been filed um with him

6:55

being named as an associate.

6:58

It's a question that I have than I'm looking for

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the answer to. M M yeah,

7:02

yeah, good luck. I wish you lucky in trying

7:05

to get a clear answer from

7:07

someone who kind only mags to be very

7:09

evasive when asking answering a direct

7:11

question like that, are

7:13

there any are there any like reform candidates

7:16

at all possibly running? I mean,

7:18

how do you run for sheriff

7:20

and even make it far enough

7:23

when your your platforms like, yeah, I'm trying to

7:25

actually make this better and not as

7:27

oppressive as possible. To my

7:29

knowledge, at least five

7:32

of the candidates are from within

7:34

the Sheriff's department themselves. Of

7:37

those five, three are associated

7:39

with deputy gangs, and there

7:42

is one candidate

7:44

that is outside the department.

7:46

She is a former Long

7:49

Beach Police, school resources officer

7:51

and parole employee.

7:54

She also ran for Board

7:56

of Supervisors inteen for

7:58

District one. And the other

8:00

guy, um, the sixth candidate.

8:03

I really can't find anything

8:05

out about him, so I don't

8:07

really have too much to say on him.

8:10

And if she is anybody like going

8:13

strong on the reform, like

8:15

taking your reporting seriously. So

8:18

how do they even differentiate at this point,

8:20

like in terms of what their appeal would be

8:22

to an electorate? Potentially,

8:24

It's like when when I'm reading their

8:26

platforms online, to be

8:29

honest with you, it's it's they're

8:31

really not that different from each other. It's a lot

8:33

of political buzzwords, but as

8:35

far as like policies

8:38

go, uh,

8:40

there's not really a lot. You know, Someone's like,

8:42

I'm the one for more money for drones, and

8:44

someone's like I'm the one for more money for armored

8:47

vehicles, and that that's where

8:49

we differ in how we want to spend our increased

8:51

budgets. And it looks like mustaches might

8:53

be another thing that maybe

8:56

differentiating. I'm

8:58

the one with a mustache. Well,

9:00

yes, I well Vienuev is the only one

9:03

without a mustache. So little

9:06

controversial are

9:08

you? Even as sheriff Sir? You don't

9:11

have a pushbrew mustache like our

9:13

boys, Cecil rambow here or even Eli

9:15

Vera. What is something you think

9:17

is overrated? Gosh?

9:20

I think the Loki show is

9:23

overrated. The whole Marvel universe

9:25

I think is overrated. I

9:28

have not seen it. I've

9:30

I will. I

9:32

don't know. I mean, were you a big Marvel

9:34

Universe fan and then you watched it? No?

9:38

No, I I got into the Marvel

9:40

Universe and Lockdown, we

9:43

got Disney Plus and we've

9:45

been watching Loki and people

9:48

are always talking about and I don't know.

9:50

I just don't get it, Like

9:53

I'm not insuited at all. People

9:55

are so into these movies and this television

9:57

show, and I just I

10:00

really don't get it. You

10:04

know, I started it, didn't finish

10:06

it the same reason. I just didn't

10:08

get the appeal. It's

10:11

just not something that I

10:13

just don't understand. Do you like it?

10:16

I know. I I famously have

10:19

not watched any of them because I'm like a just

10:21

like a completionist. And and I've

10:23

said this before the show, like the tick at which

10:26

these films came out was too much for

10:28

me to keep up with, and so I was just like, no, I'm

10:30

not I can't do this. This is too many films to

10:32

like understand the other films. So

10:34

a lot of listeners have been like, just watch these

10:37

six in this order and it'll

10:39

make sense. And I'm like, it's just a

10:41

huge time investment and it's

10:43

too mud. It's it's a little bit hard for me,

10:46

but yeah, I get it people. You

10:48

know they're they're really caught up in them, see you. I

10:51

feel like they'd just be baking them up as they go along.

10:56

It's like, y'all, y'll have twelve movies

10:58

like two TV shows I gotta watch to make

11:00

it all makes sense, Like,

11:02

oh man, wait to the new shows Sandal,

11:05

Oh my god, what do you see the storylines

11:07

about that? Just his foot where it's like, are we

11:10

we got all kinds of threads that we're going

11:12

down. But yeah, I like Spider Man

11:14

into the Spider Verse. I thought that was cool.

11:17

Have you seen that, right, I like that I

11:19

haven't seen that, So that one, I feel

11:22

like I'm hearing a lot from the low key

11:24

reactions about like the multiverse

11:27

and the idea that like all the Marvel different

11:31

movies are part of like some multiverse

11:34

that's going to intersect and like that

11:36

that movie interacts with that in an

11:38

interesting way. I'm

11:41

starting to get excited about

11:43

the Marvel cinematic universe just from

11:45

four, my three year old, because he's

11:48

like now real into

11:50

like all these characters even though he's like never all

11:53

he's seen is like pictures of them, and

11:55

so I'm just like imagining when he can

11:57

like finally watch the movies, like how

12:00

how much it's going to make

12:02

his brain melt and leak out

12:04

of his years? Yeah, Or

12:06

he's gonna be jumping off ship. Yeah he's

12:08

a super because yeah,

12:11

me watching like a few superhero

12:13

things, I had a bad habit of jumping off

12:15

of ship thinking I wouldn't get hurt, like when

12:17

I was four, but I would try and put enough couch

12:19

cushions below me to not shatter

12:21

my ankles completely, like the you

12:24

know the versions that we had

12:26

like when I was a kid and into

12:28

superheroes were like a Hulk TV

12:31

show and uh and

12:33

Batman the sixties TV show, and

12:35

like I was just I was into it. That was good enough

12:37

for me. The greatest American hero,

12:40

which was like a joke,

12:42

but I I took it seriously. What

12:45

is uh something you think is underrated?

12:48

Seriously? Police violence, man,

12:50

police violence is hella underrated. Just now,

12:52

while I'm talking to you, Um, I see

12:55

that the Los Angeles Police Department has

12:57

potentially killed some one.

13:00

They have just shot someone down the street from my

13:02

house. And I'm watching the

13:04

police cars go and the helicopters overhead

13:07

filming this, and yeah,

13:12

really harsh in my vibe. But yeah, police

13:14

violence is really underrated, Like this

13:16

is horrible. Someone like I can't

13:18

believe that just happened just now, jeez, just

13:21

outside your window. Yeah, oh

13:23

my god, it's okay.

13:26

Uh, like that all just transpired

13:28

in like the last couple of minutes. Yeah, while

13:30

we were asking about the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

13:33

Uh huh okay, well

13:36

that's that would be properly underrated,

13:39

uh, considering the harsh

13:42

reality that's out there, you know, as

13:44

you navigate this whole sort of ecosystem

13:46

of you know, police gangs and

13:49

like sort of the mechanisms that

13:51

are set up to like obscure their involvement

13:53

or activity. What do you think,

13:56

you know, what's the perspective. I'm sure like when you

13:58

go to these sort of junk its or

14:00

press conferences, when you're like next to

14:02

maybe like people from like Fox eleven

14:04

or like kt l A or the local

14:06

news, do they do you think they

14:08

have a semblance or understanding of

14:11

what's at stake or do you think sometimes

14:13

they're sort of as part of the media apparatus,

14:16

willing to turn a blind eye to sort of keep

14:18

the relationships going for the

14:20

sake of like their reporting. Oh

14:23

yeah, I know that's what they're doing. You

14:25

know, in my experience, the average

14:28

you know, television reporter doesn't

14:30

have a clue about what's

14:32

going on in the city and

14:34

the realities that people are facing.

14:37

And yeah, I mean that is the thing. There are

14:39

a lot of stories that most mainstream

14:41

outlets won't do because they don't want to damage

14:44

their access to different

14:47

agencies, whether that be law enforcement,

14:50

a city council member, the

14:52

mayor. There are a lot of questions

14:54

that they just won't to ask your stories that they

14:57

won't do because it's going to rock the boat. And

14:59

that's you know, one of the reasons that I

15:02

published my series at Knock because

15:04

this this wasn't a story that a

15:07

lot of with more name recognition,

15:10

Um, they just weren't interested

15:12

in doing something like this, yeah,

15:16

and like this sort of I guess the way that the relationship

15:19

there works is what that they'll the police

15:21

will give them sort of tidbits

15:23

of information that they can then run with stories

15:26

or um. The police don't really

15:28

they don't really give they give the information

15:30

that they want to give. It's just about will

15:34

you be will you be invited to the press

15:36

conference? Will you be called on in

15:38

question and answers? Are you going to get a call back

15:41

on your story? Are they going

15:43

to do the bare minimum right?

15:46

And then for the in exchange, they'll just be

15:48

like, and we'll obscure your crimes and act

15:51

up to us about everything. So it's not even

15:53

really it's not even like an understandable

15:55

transaction, like well then they did scoop

15:57

on they got a scoop on this thing. It's just are

16:00

like, we won't call on you, and that's

16:02

it. And that's enough for them to Because I mean, when

16:04

you're at these things, are you, as

16:07

someone who has completely gone against

16:09

the grain in terms of how more mainstream

16:11

reporting about this stuff has been. Are you

16:13

finding it that you'll never get called

16:15

on, that you have to sort of aggressively

16:19

find your opportunities to to ask a question,

16:21

or how does that work for you in terms of navigating

16:23

this environment. Well, the last press conference

16:26

that I had tended in person, I was almost arrested.

16:29

I was detained for fifteen minutes by a

16:31

group of three shareff's deputies who

16:34

refused to let me back into the press conference

16:37

until another member

16:39

of the scrum who I had been

16:41

standing with, a white guy, vouched

16:43

for me, and then they were willing to

16:45

listen to what I was saying.

16:48

So I I don't attend

16:50

in person anymore. When I do have to go

16:52

into the field to work, I have to bring a bodyguard

16:55

now, which it's really weird

16:57

because I'm a reporter. Jesus,

17:00

I don't I think I should

17:02

have a bodyguard. But that's

17:04

just sort of the reality of it. It's not that

17:06

I'm not allowed to ask questions, It's that I'm

17:09

physically prevented and potentially

17:12

even you know, facing

17:15

criminal prosecution

17:17

for trying to do my job, and

17:20

what would they allege you're doing that's criminal?

17:23

Essentially. The person that

17:25

was also detained and later arrested was told

17:27

he was trespassing. But again, this is a

17:29

press conference in a public building

17:32

where I had RSVPD and

17:34

was in contact the organizers, So

17:37

it

17:39

it doesn't make these allegation

17:41

to then sort of justify entertainment,

17:43

but then later won't be an arrest because

17:46

that's just sort of foul. They'll not

17:48

go fully a foul of the law or whatever

17:50

the law is, right, Yeah,

17:53

I mean and they

17:57

Yeah, it just seems like I

17:59

don't even when we're talking about the local

18:02

local news, like just

18:04

just having to interact

18:07

with them on a regular basis, you know, because

18:09

they're like any time they show up to a

18:11

crime scene, they're gonna interact with probably

18:14

the same like handful of police like every

18:16

once in a while, and those are people

18:18

who are legally

18:21

allowed to shoot you like this. They

18:24

like that based on your reporting, like that's

18:27

all they need is the flimsiest like

18:29

explanation for for what went down,

18:31

And like it's just it's a very terrifying

18:34

situation to be in to like try and talk

18:37

about the police openly in

18:40

in Los Angeles, are really in any community

18:43

with the militarized and like very

18:45

you know, emboldened police police

18:47

force. Yeah, Ship, Well,

18:50

amazing what you're doing and the

18:52

bravery it takes and couldn't be

18:55

more thankful for what you do it for

18:57

this community and I think just the country in

18:59

general, because this is not just l A

19:01

obviously. All right, let's take

19:03

a quick break and we'll come back and

19:06

talk a little bit more about l

19:09

A s D gangs and

19:20

we're back. So, the last

19:23

time you were on we kind of you.

19:25

I think it was the day that your

19:28

series of reports published

19:31

a traditional violence. But you

19:33

know, we we were talking right before we started recording

19:36

about this most recent

19:39

sort of use of double speak where aut Villaineueva

19:42

is now saying that

19:44

there there are clicks but not gangs,

19:47

Like what is that a

19:49

concerted effort? Like how how they're

19:51

talking about this? Like how how are they like

19:53

just dealing with the fact that there

19:57

behavior has been so overt and

20:00

out in the open and now

20:02

somebody's just kind of laying

20:04

it out for people to see. Well, they

20:06

don't really acknowledge

20:08

my reporting by name, but what they

20:10

do say is that people

20:14

are selling the

20:16

notion of gangs to

20:19

make a name for themselves or push an

20:21

agenda. Vienueva

20:23

has said both that he

20:25

is the first person to do anything about deputy

20:28

gangs, and yet deputy

20:30

gangs don't exist, and

20:32

yet they exist in every

20:35

police department, and that they're nothing

20:37

to fear, so,

20:40

in short, a bunch of uh

20:43

nonsense, right,

20:45

And is that like in for some way

20:47

to sort of acknowledge like, Okay, we can't

20:50

we can't say no that it's

20:52

all nonsense, because it is. There's

20:54

real reporting about it. So the way they sort

20:56

of navigate that is just to try and redefine

20:59

or recontiret extualized, like what even a gang

21:02

is Like they're just friends at

21:04

the station that have a

21:06

hand symbol and iconography

21:09

like a gang. But it's

21:11

just the loose cohort of

21:13

organized armed men who

21:16

like I saw like a picture that you posted about

21:19

a patch that was being sold that said

21:21

like our gang is bigger than yours or

21:23

something like that. And I've also

21:25

seen in like some of the and and a lot of your

21:28

posts on social media and things like where you've you've

21:31

interacted with somebody who's clearly wearing like a

21:33

pin that is showing that they're affiliated

21:36

and that in those symbol and like in those instances,

21:38

is that with Vienueva was trying to say, It's like, yeah, that's

21:40

just like a clique, right, Yeah,

21:44

it's just the symbol. It's just a

21:47

fun thing for our deputies,

21:49

nothing to worry about, nothing to worry

21:51

about. Has has that like

21:53

forced has that created more activity

21:56

like with these clicks or do you think on

21:58

some way of the sort of spotlight

22:01

that is being put on them through the

22:03

History of Violence series is

22:05

like maybe are

22:07

they being less over more

22:10

covert or it's no, just

22:12

no offense. They

22:14

don't give a can I

22:16

say, I'm sorry

22:19

tradition of violence not history of on? Sorry? They

22:21

yeah, I mean they truly don't give a funk what I

22:23

report on. They're gonna keep doing what they're

22:25

doing, and I mean they're I

22:28

believe their belief is that no one is

22:31

going to stop them. I mean, Vinueva has

22:33

defied subpoena after subpoena, He's

22:35

gone after the county CEO, he's

22:37

gone after the Board of Supervisors twice.

22:40

Now saying that they need to be beaten.

22:42

He said, very explicitly, the board of

22:44

supervisors needs to be taken to a shed

22:46

and beaten until they do their job as

22:49

he sees fit. He's gone after

22:51

me, He's gone after journalist by

22:53

name at the Los Angeles Times. And

22:56

he does all of this. He

22:58

he invaded the Venice boardwalk, which

23:00

is not his jurisdiction. He does

23:03

all of this and no one stops him.

23:05

There is no one that is saying you cannot

23:07

do this, and here are the consequences.

23:09

That hasn't happened yet. So he's

23:11

been able to transform himself into

23:14

probably the most powerful

23:16

political person in Los Angeles

23:18

County just by the virtue of the fact that

23:20

the powers that do exist to check him have

23:23

not taken any action. Hm.

23:25

Right, And the board

23:27

of supervisors are all women, right,

23:30

correct, really

23:32

tough guy attitude. So he's saying a

23:34

group of five women need to be taken

23:37

behind the shed and beaten until they

23:39

do their job. And that's the sheriff

23:42

and he and I'll just say,

23:44

all the people that he's gone after in these

23:46

press conferences are our women.

23:49

The reporters at the l A Times that he's talking

23:51

about, there are women. I am a woman, the

23:54

board of supervisors or women like

23:56

he's advocated for violence

23:58

against women again and and again and

24:01

again. The county, the county ceo

24:03

a woman, and you

24:05

know, no one there are no consequences

24:07

to that. And I know recently

24:10

to like the county Democrats were calling

24:13

for him to resign, I mean

24:15

outside of them, just sort of saying like that's what we

24:17

wish. Is there anything sort

24:19

of beyond that that could have any sort of material

24:21

or fact or It's just sort of more of a show

24:23

of sort of where they how they view

24:26

how he's handling his position. It's

24:28

it's largely a gesture, but it also

24:31

implies that they will not be giving him the

24:33

endorsement. In twenties two, it's

24:35

believed that Vienueva was able

24:37

to be victorious

24:40

in the prior election

24:42

because he did have the co sign of

24:44

the Democrats of Los Angeles County

24:46

as well as a number of local

24:48

Democratic clubs. He did a lot of

24:50

campaigning with them, spoke at

24:53

a lot of their meetings, and a

24:55

lot of people have said that it was that action

24:57

that convinced them to vote for him.

25:00

And I think without

25:03

um that wind in his sales. Let's go around

25:05

his numbers and the polls are going to be significantly

25:08

down. How many people vote

25:10

in like it? I guess two

25:13

is not necessarily an off year

25:15

election? But is it? Like how

25:19

popular an election is that? Is that

25:21

one where like just by getting

25:23

a handful of like you know, his supporters

25:26

out he can win? Or do you are

25:28

you thinking that this is actually gonna I

25:30

mean, I guess the first question, which we already

25:32

talked about, is like what are the alternatives?

25:35

But you know, having somebody, I guess

25:37

with entrenched power is probably

25:40

not a good thing. How important do you think

25:42

it is to like have him

25:44

defeated and out of office? Well,

25:47

I think that he

25:50

has shown time and time again that he

25:52

is not willing to comply with

25:55

the law. And yeah,

25:58

I mean I personally speaking,

26:00

I mean I won't be voting for

26:03

Viennueva. Yeah

26:06

is there? I mean, And I know how you said, like the for the

26:08

people who have the ability to

26:11

sort of check his power,

26:13

that they're not. I mean what you

26:16

know obviously based on your understanding

26:18

of the situation and the dynamics that play,

26:20

like what should be happening if,

26:22

for example, like just to give the people of

26:24

l a County, the imagination on

26:27

what what could be done or should

26:29

be done? Um, what would you say?

26:31

Those things are well, I mean, the Board

26:34

of Supervisors has an incredible amount

26:36

of power here in Los Angeles County.

26:39

Their nickname is actually the Five

26:41

Queens, because you

26:44

know, it's really the county

26:46

functions because of them

26:48

and the work that

26:50

they do. They hold an incredible,

26:52

incredible amount of power in this county.

26:55

And I think, you know, it would be very easy

26:57

to open an investigation into

27:02

just the just the cases that

27:06

are on a list that the Board of Supervisors

27:08

itself actually keeps. That was

27:10

the foundation of my series.

27:13

You know, they keep that list. You know,

27:15

it would be very easy to open an investigation

27:17

into the deputies that are

27:19

on that list and to and

27:22

into the gangs. That would be a great

27:24

first stuff. I think that hasn't been done yet.

27:27

And and like sort of the thing that prevents

27:30

that is I'd imagine some level

27:32

of fear or intimidation that

27:34

is coming from law enforcement

27:37

or that the feeling that they wouldn't be

27:39

protected or or you know, I mean like what

27:41

is sort of for them the what

27:45

makes that a situation they don't want to

27:47

enter. Aside from obviously rocking the boat, because

27:49

I think most people don't would rather just keep

27:51

the status quo, at least for people who are holding

27:53

very high office these days in this country.

27:55

But is that sort of the main force

27:57

that's keep preventing those kinds of investigations

28:00

is happening? You know, I couldn't tell

28:03

you. I think that

28:06

that could be part of it. Several

28:09

several members of the Board of Supervisors have sat

28:11

on the board for a number of

28:13

years before this and none

28:15

of this stuff was done. So yeah, I mean, I think it could be

28:18

complacency to a certain extent. And

28:21

you know, gosh, I think government

28:23

just moves like incredibly slowly like

28:25

most of the time, right, which is which

28:27

is unfortunate because it doesn't

28:30

really have to right

28:33

right. Yeah, So then yeah, we need to be looking

28:35

at people who are

28:37

willing to actually challenge the status

28:40

quo and do that in a way

28:42

that is like in pursuit of was actually justice,

28:44

rather than maintaining office

28:47

for as many years as possible. Right.

28:49

It feels like it's the same pattern at

28:51

every level when it comes to how like

28:53

a lot of legislators think for people

28:56

who haven't read the series or didn't

28:58

listen to our first episod where we kind

29:00

of covered just sort of

29:02

a summary of what

29:05

the gangs are like. So

29:07

just you know, Vienueva called

29:09

them clicks. So you know how like you

29:12

and your pals in high school

29:14

or like the mean girls in your high school all got

29:16

matching skeleton tattoos with Nazi

29:18

helmets. When you

29:21

know you remember that, like how it because

29:23

you earned them after killing a civilian.

29:26

Yeah, when you when you got your three dots

29:29

on your hand and your spider Web album. Right,

29:31

So that's that's the sort of clicks

29:34

that we're talking about here,

29:36

that where they reward people

29:38

with better hours for

29:41

killing as civilian. Yeah,

29:44

series is anything else is sort of updating

29:46

or anything else you want to sort of put on everyone's

29:49

radar off things just to be aware over to

29:51

to be mindful of. I would just say

29:53

that everyone, you know, whether or not you live in Los

29:55

Angeles County, the Sheriff's department

29:58

race is you know, incredibly relevant.

30:01

Los Angeles County is the largest sheriff's department

30:03

in the United States, and um,

30:07

like other things we do here in Los Angeles

30:09

are our policies that come down largely

30:11

UM inform and dictate policies

30:14

that could be popping up in your backyard if you don't

30:16

live here. So I encourage everyone

30:19

to, you know, UM, keep up

30:21

with the race on what's going on. UM, educate

30:23

yourself about the candidates. I myself

30:25

and working on stories about all

30:28

of the candidates and gathering information

30:30

on them for people. So yeah,

30:33

just stay tuned, and please

30:35

stay informed and get

30:37

out and vote when it's time. Just go

30:40

go follow surist at Cerise

30:42

castle c E r I

30:44

s E c I s t l E on

30:47

Twitter and follow all her

30:49

reporting. It's important.

30:51

It's fucking fascinating and horrifying

30:54

all at the same time. All right, let's

30:56

talk about Haiti.

30:59

So the panic has revealed

31:02

that some of the murder squad

31:05

I think the quote was a small number of

31:07

the assassins that killed the

31:09

Haitian president and attempted to kill his

31:11

wife in their home were previously

31:14

trained rather US military. And

31:17

this is not surprising.

31:20

It doesn't mean the US was involved in

31:22

like planning this particular

31:25

assassination, but it does

31:27

this particular assassination exactly.

31:30

It does reveal the

31:32

people that do it. Maybe it's we took a long

31:34

game for d thing yeah, exactly,

31:36

it does. Like, I mean, this is a

31:39

consequence of US

31:42

policy that the mainstream media doesn't

31:44

like to acknowledge that. You

31:46

know, for decades, the US

31:48

has been training killers

31:51

in South and Central America and around

31:53

the world who they think will help them destabilize

31:56

a country where

31:58

they need regime chain or might

32:01

need regime change, and

32:04

yeah, just generally like contributing

32:07

chaos and violence and you

32:09

know, danger into the world.

32:12

Well, it a great way to fight the Cold War

32:14

when communism was gaining

32:16

any kind of traction and central

32:19

South America. It's like, okay,

32:21

when then we need to create a

32:23

a place to show people the skills

32:26

of torture, interrogation, assassination,

32:30

and we'll call it the School of the America's

32:32

doesn't that that sound nice? And

32:34

everyone can come to this school and

32:37

we'll show you how to do all the nasty

32:39

things that we've been perfecting over the last

32:41

couple of decades. And then again

32:43

we talked about it previously in another episode, but they

32:46

eventually had to change their name to the Western

32:48

Hemisphere Institute of Security

32:50

Cooperation because they

32:53

need a bit of a rebrand because everyone's like, isn't that

32:55

the place where y'all train assassins and like hit

32:57

squads. And you know when we talk, we

32:59

talk aked about this and how it relates to you

33:01

know, immigration and then the flow of people

33:04

from places like Belize or Umnduras

33:06

or Guatemalel Salvador,

33:08

and you can draw lines to people who

33:11

went alumni of the School of the

33:13

Americas and the destabilization

33:15

that that's caused in the region and why people

33:17

have to flee these countries. But now it's

33:19

just the Institute for Security Cooperation,

33:21

So nothing to see. Yeah, And

33:24

I mean this is most

33:27

of the major wars of the past twenty years have been

33:29

at least partially fought

33:32

on both sides by like privately trained

33:34

and organized groups who

33:36

kill people for a living. Like and

33:39

the fact that that's out there, these like private

33:42

armies that are just available

33:46

to work for the highest

33:48

bidder, it just creates,

33:51

you know, it suggests a future

33:54

where the rich not

33:56

only are able to decide

33:58

if they want to leave the plan it, but also

34:01

you know, can create their own political

34:04

realities just based on how

34:06

much money they have and if

34:08

they're willing to hire

34:11

the best chechens to knock

34:14

over whatever political system

34:16

that they want to knock over, and I

34:18

don't know, it's it just feels like it's a

34:20

a very bleak future.

34:22

Where like the the article

34:25

about the specifically says like and there's

34:27

nothing illegal about it. So it's

34:29

like, well maybe maybe there should

34:31

be guys, maybe

34:36

we love that refrain in this kind. Well it's not illegal,

34:40

show me the law. It's like, well, yeah, it was set

34:42

up so you could say this, you fucking

34:44

creep. That's why we need to address it.

34:47

I don't know. I'm not dodging my taxes. Is the

34:49

way the taxes are, so I'm not doing anything Like

34:51

yeah, right, we get that, but objectively

34:53

this is fucked and we have to change

34:55

it. Wait, so like it's not what is the

34:57

law that they're not breaking exactly? Like you can't

35:00

hire a bunch of organized armed

35:02

people to have a Yeah,

35:06

you know, the most important thing is

35:08

corporations and the rights of corporations.

35:11

Uh, and so you know, a corporation

35:13

has to be able to hire you

35:15

know, retired Colombian commandos

35:18

who and retirement

35:20

ages like forty there, So there

35:23

you know, able to just create

35:26

corporations where the

35:29

explicit function or at least implicit

35:31

function, is to have trained

35:33

killers who can do your

35:36

will, right right, Okay, we're talking about

35:38

yeah, just creating a mercenary company,

35:40

mercenary LLC. Yeah yeah, great, great,

35:42

great, Yeah, that's fine. Just don't have

35:45

matching tattoos. Live

35:47

below the poverty line. That's when

35:49

it ventures into illegal territory.

35:51

If you're making under a certain amount of money,

35:54

that's when it becomes illegal. Quick,

35:57

quick, rorschach test. What do you see here?

35:59

Do you see an impoverished worker

36:02

being exploited by a capitalist

36:04

class or do you see uh,

36:07

fun guys in army suits doing cool

36:09

stuff against our enemies. It's

36:11

like if if you're fighting for the corporation,

36:13

then it's okay. But again, it

36:15

seems like with this one, especially

36:18

like in this instance, this there was like

36:20

there's a lot of connection to people

36:22

in the United States, aren't there, Like, wasn't there someone

36:24

who was bankrolling that, who was coming

36:26

from the the US? Yeah? Doctor

36:29

from who? Yeah, doctor

36:31

in Florida. Of course, there's always the Florida

36:34

connection, always a Florida doctor. But

36:37

they think that he maybe may have

36:39

been the sort

36:41

of providing the plan

36:43

and the impetus in the first place, Like

36:46

his plan was he was going to

36:48

insert himself as the president of Haiti,

36:51

if if his plan had succeeded and

36:53

now he's currently in custody.

36:55

But I just like going back to just

36:58

the broader implications of this sort

37:00

of thing, Like we just had

37:03

the January six insurrection

37:05

that was you know, based on like

37:08

who decided to organize in

37:10

a Facebook group based on like sort

37:13

of you know, half hearted

37:16

like wink nudge commands

37:18

from the president who was still

37:21

like being monitored. But like imagine like

37:23

if he had hired

37:26

trained like Chechens and

37:28

Colombian mercenaries to do

37:31

that, like what like we would be

37:33

in a whole lot of trouble um

37:37

And then instead it was just law enforcement

37:39

and active military who were

37:41

undercover there right to come again.

37:43

I wonder if that was like a bad look for them, and like

37:45

a mercenary groups like and you see what happens when

37:47

you hire local, see

37:51

what happens. That's why you want to go with us. We

37:53

don't give a fuck. We don't give a funk. Honestly,

37:55

these people there, they were all do you see, and they were all

37:57

they thought they were on a field trip when they got in there.

38:00

We get right down to it. You want to you

38:02

want to overturn election. That's one of our you know,

38:04

that's the first bullet point in our in our

38:06

deck here. I mean there's a new quote

38:09

like what in the you know, steady

38:11

stream of people who were

38:13

around Trump during the

38:16

insurrection, like the trickle of reporting

38:18

that's coming out where he was like talking about

38:20

which military leaders like he

38:23

thinks would be good at a coup and which

38:25

wouldn't be good at a coup. Like that's

38:28

yeah, that we were. We were very close,

38:30

like just a small amount of

38:33

shamelessness and competence away

38:35

from that being an ongoing

38:39

crisis. When you say which

38:41

military like within our military,

38:43

yes, would you get So it's like some weird

38:45

like fascist slumber party game.

38:48

If I was going to do a coupe, this is a direct

38:50

quote. I was going to do a coupe. One of the last

38:52

people I would want to do it with, General

38:55

Mark Millie. Yeah. He

38:57

added that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no

38:59

cur your skills certainly not the type of person

39:02

I would be talking que with,

39:05

right, And that's that's the same Mark Millie, who are

39:07

now hearing he was saying, like, Yeah, I'm

39:09

telling everyone, this guy's acting like Hitler.

39:12

It was very like out there. It seems like this is also

39:14

part of him trying to just sort of

39:17

get the narrative back about him too,

39:19

because he was serving for Trump. He's

39:21

like, yeah, but here's the thing. I called him Hitler, and I

39:23

and I knew the coup could have happened, and I was gonna

39:25

fucking stop that. So we

39:28

can we can we be nice? Can I get a book? Deal? Now?

39:32

All right, let's take a quick break

39:35

and we'll be right back. And

39:46

we're back. And the

39:48

privatization of like kind of

39:51

security forces on a on a very

39:53

small scale is being delivered

39:56

to Americans via a new Ring product.

39:59

M yeah, baby,

40:01

yeah they I don't know why

40:04

this would make anyone feel fucking good

40:06

about anything, but like, you know, Ring

40:08

and the entire home security

40:11

industry like is built on like

40:13

scaring the funk out of people and

40:15

getting them to buy into their version of

40:17

reality where like every neighborhood in America

40:20

is filled with dangerous people, and like

40:22

the only way to protect yourself is to like have

40:24

constant surveillance and apps

40:27

where people can like talk about their

40:29

neighbors and and you know, and

40:31

and get off some of the most

40:33

racist takes you've ever seen. And

40:36

you know, like we talked about how like when Ring

40:38

was bought by Amazon, then they were putting out ads

40:40

for like looking for crime reporters

40:43

to help like create content for

40:45

their ads again to keep this sort of cruel

40:47

and unusual world narrative going

40:50

for all their users. And as

40:52

if having a ton of hackable

40:54

cameras wasn't enough to make you feel

40:56

safe, Ring has announced this new product

40:59

which is the Ring Always Home

41:01

Cam. It's a fucking drone that

41:04

will fly around your house so

41:06

you can check all the nooks and crannies

41:09

when you're out of the house. So I'll just read

41:11

it like it looks so like it

41:13

like looks like Wally's Friend. It's made

41:15

to look so non aggressive, but it's a miniature

41:18

quad copter with a camera on it. And

41:20

they say, the Ring Always Home Camp is a

41:22

drone camera that you can program to follow

41:24

preset flight paths throughout your home.

41:27

Yeah, you'll get the most out of it when paired

41:29

with a Ring Alarm subscription, since the drone

41:31

is automatically triggered to lift from its base

41:33

to fly preset paths. In

41:36

the ad for it, it was basically some

41:38

person leaving their house and like setting their alarm,

41:40

but then a guy with a ski mask

41:43

decided to open a window and

41:45

the alarm went off, and then the drones like

41:48

like to check, and this guy's checking

41:50

his phone and it looks like this like steady

41:53

cam shot going through your house and

41:56

it arrives to the point of entry where

41:58

this guy with the sche mask is in and the I

42:00

sees and he's like, oh no, I didn't

42:02

know it was a little quad copter. I'm gonna go,

42:04

you know what, crime over and

42:06

like leaves and it follows

42:08

him home and he decided to change his life

42:11

and go to college

42:15

become an engineer for ring r

42:19

UM, And I it's weird that, like again,

42:21

as if there we don't have enough ways

42:23

for you to put cameras in your own home, Like

42:25

I guess they're trying to be like stationary cameras are

42:27

for victims, but

42:30

like for those of us that embrace the surveillance

42:32

state, you can now invite it directly into

42:34

your home, and the potential for

42:36

bad ship with this just seems

42:39

infinite, Like the idea that now

42:41

you're gonna deploy security drones

42:44

within your home it's just like such

42:46

a nightmare, such a situation

42:48

for me. But I just won't also point out that, you

42:50

know, Amazon and the police

42:53

are using ring cameras to basically

42:56

privately crowdfund their own surveillance

42:58

networks. And it's a little think. Not many

43:00

people were of this all but two states,

43:03

Montana and Wyoming. This

43:05

is from the Verge quote now have police

43:07

or fire departments participating in Amazon's

43:09

Ring network, which lets law enforcement ask users

43:12

for footage from their ring security cameras to

43:14

assist with investigations. And they

43:16

say now, figures from Rings show

43:18

more than nine departments joined

43:20

the program in for a total

43:23

of over two thousand. And they're

43:25

saying that even if you're a person

43:27

who if the police say, hey, we'd like to

43:29

obtain some of the footage from your ring camera,

43:32

some people who own the cameras don't even have

43:34

the ability to say no. They're

43:37

just like Amazon will just go around

43:39

them and be like, yeah, okay, here it is. So

43:42

this is just a very there's like so many layers

43:44

to this that it just like there gets spooky

43:47

and spookier and spookier when you look at

43:49

it. What are the cops doing or

43:52

not doing, rather that they need like entire

43:55

cities to be on ring camera, right Like

43:57

this really, I mean this

44:00

is this is all the ads that the defund

44:02

the police movement really needs, right, Like

44:04

people still need to depend on like fucking

44:08

cameras flying around every inch of

44:10

their home and that still maybe doesn't even

44:12

prevent the crime. Like what the hell do we have the cops

44:14

for? And then then we go step for

44:16

like and then the rain camera gets super wolke. It's

44:18

like, but what is crime is? It

44:21

is a sectrum of a of a society

44:24

where there's no social safety net and people

44:26

are driven to such desperation that their only financial

44:28

recourse or to commit property crimes. Hi,

44:31

I'm Jeff Bezos and blah blah. But it's like

44:34

like I don't know where they Yeah,

44:36

I feel like the simple question is, wait,

44:38

what what about police? If

44:41

I need super drone to shoot

44:44

away a suspected burglary

44:46

a burglar from my home? Right,

44:49

where are the cops watching

44:51

my ring footage? I guess? But the

44:55

cool stuff when it's aimed at someone's backyard

44:57

and they got a pool, It's like, Okay,

44:59

that's not You're not enforcing anything.

45:02

Have you have you seen any of like the

45:04

YouTube videos of people putting guns

45:07

on quad copters, because

45:09

that's happening. I

45:11

saw. I mean, I I saw a terminator

45:14

to judgment. Basically,

45:17

I have an idea of what that's like. But

45:19

you're saying people are now I mean just

45:22

like home homespun homespun

45:25

killer drums. Yeah yeah, okay, well

45:27

yeah, I mean that that that goes along

45:29

with that, like lego glocks that

45:31

that just came out. People like they're

45:34

like just just just a cool gun

45:37

that they glued legos on to like make the

45:39

gun more children. Yeah,

45:42

that's cool, but can end to life. And because

45:44

that's because we're talking aesthetics. But I

45:46

mean, when you think about, like one of the big

45:48

arguments for gun ownership in America

45:51

is like the fantasy of like that

45:54

that iconic figure of

45:57

guy in ski mask breaking into

45:59

house and getting to shoot

46:02

someone with impunity, and like I can just

46:04

imagine, like it doesn't

46:06

feel like it's much of

46:08

a much of a leap to a

46:11

world where this thing rises out of the

46:13

ground with a fucking handgun and attached

46:15

to it right and

46:17

again, inherently like anything

46:19

on that Internet connected could be hackable.

46:23

So who knows what other eventual

46:25

applications they have. I don't know if

46:27

anyone. Again, I don't know

46:29

who this is for, but this seems like a very

46:31

specific person who's consumed

46:34

a lot of you know, Facebook posts

46:36

and like neighbor app posts

46:38

to be like, yeah, yeah, I need this, I need this. The

46:40

only way to feel safe is drone. Just

46:46

yeah. They make it look they make this ship look cute

46:49

as hell, and the commercial like it's not some

46:51

it's not you know, indicating what our bleak

46:53

future looks like. It really was meant to

46:55

look like a fun thing that

46:58

would make someone re consider

47:00

committing a crime because it saw you. Let's

47:03

talk about some good news in this

47:05

crazy mixed up world. A corporation

47:08

bringing two groups together after

47:11

at long last. You know, this has been years

47:14

of these groups butting heads,

47:17

and Hines is

47:20

here to bring the hot dog people

47:23

and the hot dog bun people together. It's

47:26

a I think it's a Seinfeld joke maybe

47:29

about like how you know hot

47:31

dogs come in ten packs, hot dog

47:33

buttons coming eight, what's the deal

47:35

with that? Yeah, and

47:39

that that Hines is trying to broker

47:41

a piece here, broker an accord

47:44

between the two. But don't

47:46

they own the fucking aren't they all owned by the

47:48

same like three companies anyway,

47:53

General Food, Ors Craft or whatever.

47:55

They fucking owned the bread and the hot

47:57

dog people. Is it really reaching

47:59

across the aisle or I guess in this romantic

48:02

version it is. Yeah, the

48:05

I'm pretty sure they are all owned by

48:08

like one of two companies.

48:11

So the reason that they're said that

48:13

they have different counts is hot

48:16

dogs used to be a thing that was sold

48:18

by butchers, and butchers tend to go with

48:20

like the ten pack for all things

48:23

because that's just like what makes

48:25

sense, like what's the easiest

48:28

count, And but then bakers

48:30

go with eight because

48:33

bakers, I don't know, they don't they

48:35

don't play by Yeah.

48:38

Yeah, so I mean but that but

48:41

that's not an even ten. Like bakers

48:43

are loose cannons when it comes to numbers.

48:45

They'll just they'll throw thirteen roles at you. They

48:47

don't give a fuck, you know, like,

48:51

is different than your dozen? Fuck

48:53

the meat bread balance, here's another loaf?

48:55

Go But is it because maybe

48:57

because eight because it's divisible

49:00

by four and twelve is their god.

49:02

The dozen is the god of the of

49:04

the baker. Yeah, so it's basically

49:07

I think the reason the dozen is the god

49:09

of the baker is the reason that they

49:11

have the eight, which is that they have trays,

49:14

like baking trays that are

49:17

like built in fours, so you

49:19

always have like like multiples

49:22

of four for all baking products.

49:24

Who's making the tens exactly?

49:27

So that's what out further, that's what HINS

49:29

needs to be thinking about right here. So

49:31

are they going to Is this like a real

49:34

thing? Is this like a marketing thing?

49:36

They're just trying to They had a bad damnit,

49:39

Jack, I was hoping for substantive change. They

49:41

had a bad because they

49:43

and they were like embroidered in accounting

49:46

scandal that I know we all followed closely.

49:49

Their CEO had to resign in twenty nineteen.

49:52

Profits were already falling before

49:54

the catch up shortage during the pandemic,

49:57

so they're like, uh,

49:59

we're back. It's not really like a growth

50:01

product. It's not like people are still

50:03

finding out about catch up. So

50:05

I don't know, You're

50:09

like, did you hear what they did? That's

50:14

the Oh they make the red stuff. Oh so

50:16

it's the So they're acting as so the

50:19

condiment maker is acting as the

50:22

intermediary, neutral third party

50:24

to create this accord. I

50:27

see, I see, I see, I see. That's why

50:29

I buy Nathan's. They come

50:32

in eight and the buns come in eight, right,

50:35

but they match up? Yeah,

50:37

because I have a terrible I have a terrible

50:39

I hate when you got extra, but I just can't

50:41

handle this ship. It really bugs me again,

50:44

along with me being a completionist and not watching a lot of

50:46

the m c U films. I don't like getting a

50:48

ten pack of buns when I only have eight francs.

50:51

Just did

50:53

you watch all the low Keys? Yeah?

50:56

Any anything? Well?

50:59

That that I think towards the end is when

51:01

they like revealed the large

51:04

m c U like crossover possibility.

51:06

I only know about this because Toby

51:08

McGuire was trending and my Google

51:11

alert that tells me every time Toby what McGuire's

51:14

trending? Uh, hit me up

51:16

and wait, not Toby McGuire. What Who

51:19

did Toby McGuire played Spider Man?

51:23

Yeah? So people are like, finally

51:25

Toby McGuire is gonna like enter into the m

51:27

c U. Our dreams are answered.

51:30

I don't know. People, people are weird stands

51:33

Yeah, oh yeah, the McGuire us

51:35

McGuire stands and uh,

51:38

yeah, that that's so. His name was trending, which

51:41

always intrigued me,

51:43

and that that was the reason because

51:45

like they opened the possibility

51:48

of like all the different Marvel

51:50

movies being connected and like

51:52

some great crossover event,

51:55

which I think excites. It's

51:57

really just a scheme to remake the remakes

52:01

and remake those That's

52:03

what I'm saying. Yeah, I think

52:05

you mispronounced art. It's art.

52:10

It's just like so funny that like

52:13

and do what they even need? That is it really going to

52:15

be like Elevator everything? And then it all

52:18

crossed the verse, like they

52:21

covered the idea of a

52:23

multiverse and like everything that's interesting

52:26

about that, and like the idea that all the different

52:28

comics and like drawn in different styles

52:30

are just like coming from different parts

52:32

of the multiverse like this. The

52:35

only thing this adds is like being

52:38

like, whoa, it's the actor from that one?

52:41

True? Isn't that interesting to me? Well,

52:43

if if you if you like a bunch of loose

52:45

associated and affiliated acts coming

52:47

together, you're gonna love the Wu Tang

52:49

discography because

52:52

they got everything freak And if you want to go

52:54

outside, you can get to Brooklyn Zoo to

52:57

kill the bees. Uh, if

52:59

you don't, but Donna sons

53:01

a man. I mean, there's so many ways the

53:03

Wu Tang cinematic

53:05

universe. Are there any Cappadonna stands? Are

53:07

there any people out there who are like more Cappa

53:10

Donna? Please? I don't

53:12

know if there are, let us know because you're a very

53:15

very unique consumer

53:17

of hip hop. Well series, it's

53:19

been such a pleasure having you on

53:22

t d Z again. Where can people find

53:24

you and follow you one more time? Yeah?

53:27

You can find me online at Ceris

53:29

Castle, And if

53:31

you're so able, I'd love if you could

53:33

head over to the knock l a Patreon.

53:36

While I do very much consider this my job

53:39

and my purpose, I don't get paid for it,

53:41

Oh my god, sad um.

53:43

And I also have to pay for all the public records

53:45

requests that I make myself. So if you can

53:48

help me foot that bill for justice, I'd

53:50

appreciate it absolutely. Is

53:52

there a link to that on your socials?

53:55

There is? Yes, Okay, cool, and we'll make

53:57

sure we will link to that in the footnotes

54:00

notes. Uh, is there a tweet

54:02

or some of the work of social media you've

54:04

been enjoying four

54:06

fos. I'm gripping, Oh

54:13

man, what's that? How do people look

54:15

at? What serious is referencing is a video

54:17

where someone is asking somebody

54:20

just a very simple question, how do you get out the hood?

54:23

And it's two black people talking, and

54:25

then these people start arguing over Mike and like

54:27

this, like seven foot white guy in a

54:29

polo shirt enters the frame and

54:32

the question is posed to him, in which

54:34

case he rightfully admits

54:36

I wouldn't know how to answer the question because I did

54:38

not grow up in the hood, but I'm down to go there,

54:40

and then starts spitting still tipping by Mike

54:43

Jones with so much

54:45

gusto and energy it's it

54:48

made me believe again. Miles,

54:50

where can people find you with the tweet you've been enjoyed?

54:53

You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at

54:55

Miles of Gray. Also the other show four

54:57

twenty Day Fiancee, we were talking about

55:00

Hainty Day Fiancee, you know, just to keep

55:02

it light. A couple of tweets that I like.

55:04

First one is uh, someone named

55:07

as Slicky William said snow Allegra is

55:09

our shot day, and then at

55:11

m by Venus Quotute and that said shot

55:13

day is our shot day and

55:15

the nailed on facts.

55:18

Don't bring other people into this. There's

55:20

only one shot day and we

55:22

we salute her. Another one is

55:25

Eric Blank at Underscore. Eric Blank just

55:27

has a picture of this sign that's posted outside

55:30

of a restaurant in New York. It says, quote, it's

55:32

like just like one of those just printed

55:34

things on a window in a restaurant says we need chef,

55:36

dish washer, bus boy come inside and only

55:38

asked for Chris always after two. I

55:40

have never insulted anyone. You should know

55:42

me. Just please notice who is talking

55:45

bad about me? And Eric Blank

55:47

tweets perhaps not the most effective

55:49

help wanted sign, oh

55:55

so deep into that conversation

55:57

in his own head, I have never insulted

56:00

anyone you should know me. Just please notice

56:02

who was talking bad about Okay,

56:05

Chris Chris Chris Chris uh

56:08

tweet I've been enjoying Brodie Gupta

56:10

tweeted, don't call me honey and expect

56:12

it to soften the fact that you shrunk

56:15

the kids. You

56:19

can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore

56:22

O Brian. You can find us on Twitter at Daily

56:24

Zeitgeist for at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram,

56:27

We have a Facebook fan page on a website Daily

56:29

Zeitgeist dot com, while we

56:31

post our episodes on our foot note where

56:34

we link off to the information that we talked about in today's

56:36

episode, as well as a song

56:38

we think you might enjoy. Miles. What song

56:40

are we suggesting people go check out? We

56:43

have the just wonderful

56:46

honor of having many talented people on this show. Past

56:48

guest ailings Worth from Detroit, Michigan,

56:51

really talented musician and producer co

56:53

produced this track that just came out

56:55

with I d K featuring m F Doom,

56:58

West Side Gun and Jay electro Anica.

57:01

The track is called Red and it's

57:03

fantastic. It's it's wonderful.

57:05

Even if you don't like hip hop, I

57:07

implore you to check it out because the sampling

57:10

on it is really cool and the beat is very

57:12

very forward thinking, not not just your usual

57:15

boom bap type of hip hop. Um and

57:17

it's a really dope track. And congrats

57:19

sailings work contributing

57:21

to our sonic landscape with some really

57:24

fire material. So this is I d K with

57:26

m F Doom, West Side Gun, j Electronica,

57:29

and it's called Red. Overduced by Eiling's

57:31

work. Alright, we'll go check that out.

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