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Hello the Internet, and welcome

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to season one, Episode two

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of Days Guys, the production

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of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where

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we take a deep dive into America's share courches.

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It's Tuesday, December eight forty

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some odd days until January.

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My name is Jack O'Brien a k Come

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along and ride on

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a Juliani voyage.

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Die di'm melting hair, die

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a fart on the mic as I tell some lies.

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That is courtesy of official Dickhead,

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and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by

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my co host, Mr Miles

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gra triumphantly

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sitting on their behinds Cobra

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drank fidgets, spending in time, the

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green light flashes, bass soap goes up,

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learning and churning. The news always

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sucks. They definitely maneuver the Daily

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Landscape episodes produced fast

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Wood gets that our dake reckless and wild

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with hot takes. They burned, but their premises

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potent as I gang off, learn and then

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so then okay, and then we can go do do dot

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dot do? They have the persistence,

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They have what we need. Jack's

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not alone, all alone. He's got miles

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high as fuck on weed. Anyway,

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That's it Christiema Gucci Man always.

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I always love it hearing cake, especially

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for a band dork like me playing trumpet,

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and there weren't really bands like vibing with troum

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on this side, be like, oh, y'all don't funk with jazz. Try saying

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that as a ten year old, this was a great song

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for me. So yeah, yeah, I feel

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like the Eades ruined brass for a little

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bit because like they just had that dramatic,

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sexy uh saxophone

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always always playing as

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like a sax solo and now I mean

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Herb Albert and like Chuck Mangione,

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like they took trumpet into like

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it's catchy. But you know, like you're

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not being like, oh did you see Herb Alpert,

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Like I'm I'm hopping on that the second

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I see you. No, no, no, it's it's different than

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jazz. But hey, you know we got we have cake though.

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Yeah, yeah, that's well.

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We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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the hilarious, the talented

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Allison Steven say, Hi,

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hello, oh come back, how

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are you doing? You know?

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Yeah, yeah, perpetually

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evolving. I feel like it's you

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should you're not allowed to say that you're good, even

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if it's like the standard thing you have to

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say. I feel like just not allowed

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to be like, yeah,

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my god, I'm so good. And it was supposed to set

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off our electric shock callers for asking how

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are you? Because what's new? What's

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new? What's anything new?

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Anything good? On TV? Well?

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I did are? I told you earlier, but I had

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I did just come back from the hospital a

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few days ago, right, yes, you're

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for fun. Yeah, just

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get some stuff rearranged.

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Like what if my heart was like that

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on this side? Yeah, what

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do you think? Doc? Know? I had to get my gall bladder

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removed? Oh ship,

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Ye, it's ah, and I

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the like even in your description

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of I went to the e er and they were

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like, NA, you're good, go home, which

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is like, you know, I've unfortunately

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had friends have told that to them and ship

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went horribly south when

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they went home. And I'm just so glad

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that despite that happening, and you're going

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back in another doctor like, okay, we gotta get your gall bladder

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out that you're okay, Thank the Lord,

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Thank the Lord. Yeah.

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Yeah, I find that gall bladder

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removal is rarely an elective surgery.

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It's usually things are going bad. At

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that point, we

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all know I need to lose weight. I was like, what if I just

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like four ounces from

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the morbid idiot beside of me is do you can

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you ask for your extracted

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biological organ after the

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I asked and they said I couldn't. Oh,

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fuck you right, fuck

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you? You know, And I don't want

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to get into the financials of it, but i'd imagine

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you know that they're going to charge insurance

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whoever, whoever you know, if you or

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whoever's footing the bill, that's a lot of money that should

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come with the free trash park

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that comes with it. I shouldn't be able to get my gallbladder

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in a jar or some ship. Would you save it

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though? I mean, I know we asked those questions, and even if they

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said, yeah, you want it to be like no, I'm just I'm just

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curious. I would I

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would have saved it. And the little gall

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stones is it small? Apparently?

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Yeah, it's like a teeny little They

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like took it out of my belly button. Oh

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wow, that's pretty cool. I am so ignorant

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about most things medical, and I'm like, you

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know, I hear anything that's inside your bottom, like So

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that's the size of a volleyball. You

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know that, I actually don't. I don't know the answer,

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e button. So I'm just imagining it like the size

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of a quarter. I think mentally that's

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what I needed to be or at most of the

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thing. Agent Smith pulls on puts on Neo's

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belly button in the right. I was

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gonna say, I have to imagine that was

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exactly how your procedure went in the back

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up a speeding cab. Yeah,

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with like some weird laser like hold

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on, I've got it, I'm tracking it on.

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Wow, that that sounds

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like a lot, especially the way I'm imagining

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it. So we're very very

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happy, resilient happy

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back here people postop guests

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who are coming out of medical procedures, people

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who were battling COVID. So we appreciate

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you. Alright,

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Well, let's tell the listeners what we're

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going to talk about, and then we'll get to know you a little

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bit better. Allison. Uh. First,

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we're gonna talk about spiked feste

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uh coming at you from

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the Trump administration. We're gonna

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talk about Kelly Leffler's debate

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performance. We're gonna talk

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about how Melbourne Melbourne.

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Uh, and the state of Victoria and Australia.

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How they're approaching the COVID nineteen

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pandemic. Uh. They

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for the past four weeks have had

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checking my numbers here, zero new

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cases of COVID nineteen. So

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well, we'll talk about how they pulled that off.

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Hint, it's exactly what. They

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didn't come up with any new ideas, guys,

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they they just did the damn thing. Uh.

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We'll talk about Staten Island, a

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bar in Staten Island and its relationship

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to one Pete Davidson. Uh.

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We will talk about the new release,

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the new report on the Havana syndrome.

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Uh, that you know, as an ongoing

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story we like to cover. We like to talk about anytime

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there's new evidence that

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enters the scene got

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a new angle, not really actually but well,

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you know, still still very foggy,

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but uh, well, we'll talk

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about it all of that plenty more.

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But first, Alison, we like task our guests,

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what's something from your search history

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that's revealing about who you are? I

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recently googled if

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hamsters can chew on Palo

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Santo Santo

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like for them to? It's if it's safe for them to nod

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Ato. That

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is the most like silver Lake Google

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thing I've ever heard in my life. I think, if

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you don't know what Paolo Santo is like, it's if

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you've ever if wherever you're in the country, if you have some

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crunchy friends who are like seemingly just lighting

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a shard of wood on fire and being like, the

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vibe in here is so great. Superproducer

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Nick Stump famously kept his

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control room just just piping

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with the Polo Santo smoke. So

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is it safe though? Clear's negative energy? It's

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as Sage apparently Plessantro is canceled

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though, is what I've heard. Canceled

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Little Saint Paulo the

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person on themselves. Okay,

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I think like white people

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like myself, who are like, can I answer to you

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on it? Like

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take it back?

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Don't let him have it with taking it back? What

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does it smell like when it's burning? Like, is it petulish?

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When we look at it smells pretty

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damn good. I think it smells

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better okay for it over

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stage for sure. Yeah,

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any like place where they're selling

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crystals is like

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like Putuli gave way to Sage, which

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gave way to Polo Santo, Right, now,

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you know, go to your local crystal shop. If you don't

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know that's it probably smells like Polo Santo in there. M

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okay, I will do that the second

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that I'm going to make a bee line for that, the second

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this uh lockdown of this lift or

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like musicians especially love it. I think that's

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why Nick had it too, because I've never

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been like with vibe musicians who

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if you were playing with them or in a sad Shian or

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like a rehearsal where they were just like, let me

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just get the polo go on a little bit, just

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like it out. Like. That's why it's

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such a sober like thing in my mind, because like

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so many rehearsal spaces just spelled like

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weed, like uh paps

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and you know Paulo Santo. Alison,

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how are you enjoying your

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Paolo Santo? Are you like lighting a

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Is it just like a stick that you light always?

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Literally it's like do I have it on me?

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No, it's literally just like a stick.

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Yeah, it's the most uninteresting

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thing to see. You

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know, it's very basic. It smells really

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good, clears negative negative energy

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if you're into that stuff. But I

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have a pet hamster and he

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needed a new chew toy, and I was like,

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I'm you know, post recovery

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surgery mode, and I'm like, well, I have Palo

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Santo. Like can giving that?

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Yeah, like give you something to

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entertain yourself with. I

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ultimately decided not to, even though I couldn't

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find a straight answer on Polo Santo specifically,

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it seemed like it might be too

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risky of a wood for a hamster. Would

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you pivot to? I ended up just waiting,

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and I ended up just waiting and asked

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my sister to go to Peco for me, and she

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got pencil shaped

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wood choo things. Ah.

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Yeah, should have experimented with

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the polosanto. Maybe it Maybe it would have changed the

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whole vibe of the hamster. So

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hamster cho toys just just would

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Is that kind of the

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I could talk about hamsters forever, so don't get

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me started. But it's they

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are very finicky, fragile creatures,

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and I don't understand why we sell them to

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like five year olds, Like that's

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not okay. They actually very

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high maintenance animals and

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even like the type of wood they choose important

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because some what is poisonous to them. Another

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would is isn't like pine

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is bad for them, like stuff like

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that they can choke on some and not

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on others, or like some are like poison. I

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don't know basically, so yeah, it matters

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what kind of wol do they chew? For

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the record, you know, Allison is on her

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stenographer's keyboard right now, just

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all that typing you hear? Is that transcribing

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everything the minutes of this episode?

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Alison? What is something you think is underrated?

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Uh? I

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need to think about this because I really don't. Okay,

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has is anybody fucking with Pluto TV?

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I've seen mention of Pluto TV

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and I know the words as

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a sequence. It's like that app

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prayer you know your Roku

11:48

device or whatever your whatever that it's

11:50

called. Don't know, yeah,

11:55

uh, And it's like it's you can watch

11:57

channels, but all the channels are really specific

11:59

and it kind of amazing. Like there's

12:02

a channel that's just playing uh

12:05

mtvs. The Challenge NonStop.

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Yeah, there's random mass channels that just

12:13

play like one show or like a genre

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kind of fun. It's fun to also like have channels

12:18

again where you're like searching through things, right

12:22

and going up and down. So when you

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go to the channel for the

12:26

challenge. It's just you enter

12:29

at a place where whatever

12:31

like rotation there on, like everybody's

12:33

watching it at the same time. You have no

12:35

choice in the matter. I feel I

12:38

feel like un

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certain channels. Yeah, I

12:43

feel like that's got to be like a

12:45

thing that's coming is just back

12:47

to linear stuff that people can all enjoy

12:50

together. Hell yeah, it's too

12:53

of having to make decisions. Yeah,

12:56

yes, I'm like even

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like DVRs fucking of like

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even being like, oh shit, it's Sunday, I'm gonna go

13:02

turn this on. Like I've completely like

13:05

catterized that sensation out of my

13:07

soul of like being like thing

13:09

being tied to a day. Obviously because of

13:12

the pandemic, like linear time is also

13:14

a bit wonky at the moment. But

13:17

I just feel like, yeah, like trying to even

13:19

select anything is like the cheesecake

13:21

factory menu, you know, by

13:24

like exponent ten of like overwhelming

13:27

you know, feelings of too much variety,

13:30

Yeah, cheesecake factory

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ization of America.

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Yeah, and look at look at him now begging

13:37

for that money. I have

13:39

a nervous breakdown every time I get to the

13:41

cheesecake factory. That's why again.

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I'll say it again, Chicken littles. Don't even show

13:45

me, just don't show me the fucking menu. I want

13:47

chicken littles. Let's go. Yeah,

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It's like they're chicken Tenders but has mashed

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potatoes. So first time I ordered on a date,

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I was like, see, I'm I ain't no kid sat

13:58

fries and chicken tenders. He's chicken and little with

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mashed putain a little. We were corn cobs stuck in it.

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But they've named their chicken tenders

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after the character who

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uh from from the cartoon who

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thought this guy was falling? Um,

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just to give it a personal kick.

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Know who you're eating when we're look people

14:19

know other factory goons as we call ourselves

14:21

when we pull up to the factory to the fact,

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you know, we know what time it is. We're just there for

14:26

the food. We don't look too much into the names,

14:28

like like a

14:30

unionized or not yet not

14:34

yet. I mean, there's a lot of a lot of interesting takes

14:36

on union unionizing within the fact gang

14:39

um. But we'll see. Alison,

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what's something you think is overrated? I

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mean I really could not think of anything

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I want. I was like, okay, baby, since I'm going

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on this polutot thing we're talking about, Like

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I could say Netflix, because personally

14:56

I'm sick of Netflix. I

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can't find anything to watch anymore. It's interesting

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to me they took away a lot of the stuff I

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liked would they take

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away? They took away

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Frasier. That's

15:09

it. That's

15:11

the only thing I watched. Where's Fraser right now? Because

15:15

Luckily is on Hulu? Oh

15:18

shit? Okay, So I'm just like, I'm

15:21

very ready to be done with Netflix unless they

15:23

want to give me a fucking shower or something, in

15:25

which case I'm loving it. And it's actually

15:29

I'm the joke, not Netflix, all right, Yeah,

15:33

yeah, I don't know. It's it is like

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Netflix is almost now just it's like almost

15:38

like what HBO became, where it's not so much

15:40

about like what's on there, but the thing that only

15:43

they make where

15:45

I'm like, oh, ship right, that's only on Netflix

15:47

versus before you like, oh, put Netflix on It's got

15:49

everything now, I'm like, fuck that. Like

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I don't even like my que anymore or

15:54

like my list that I've put together. I'm like,

15:57

I don't think I've touched my cue, and like

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three years it's just that

16:02

I was interested in I Haven't a Child,

16:04

the literally from

16:07

six years ago, the follow

16:09

up documentary to the Brazilian film

16:11

City of God, like the ten year anniversary

16:14

retrospective documentary, like talking

16:16

to the child actors from it, I was like, Oh, this

16:18

ship is dope. And that was that

16:21

I put that que have not watched

16:23

it. Yeah, I've got that Orson Wells

16:25

documentary and the new Orson

16:28

Wells like the Color of the Wind or whatever

16:31

at the top of my thing. And I feel

16:33

stuff you put to the queue is things that you're like,

16:36

I should watch this exactly.

16:38

It's aspirational. But that's

16:40

a a black and white movie

16:42

by or some Wells that people were like,

16:44

it's pretty good if you're or some Wells.

16:47

Completest is a real Uh,

16:49

it's a real stopper. Apparently for me.

16:51

Every time I see it, I just like get a little

16:53

anxious and move on. Um,

16:56

I we have those, we have those pieces

16:58

of content. Yeah. My que is that documentary

17:01

The Family, which like

17:03

I know, like I'm not going to be surprised

17:06

by anything I see in it, so I'm like whatever,

17:08

if I get to it, I get to it. Uh.

17:10

And then Black Godfather because my grandpa used

17:12

to hang out with that dude and my grandpa and my dad

17:14

was like, it should check that out. Man. There's

17:17

a bunch of Just now that the

17:19

top ten lists year

17:21

end lists are coming out, it seems like a

17:23

lot of the movies that people

17:26

are putting on their top ten lists are just like documentaries

17:28

that I've never heard of, because

17:31

yeah, a bunch of like wild documentaries came out

17:34

this year. Uh, because nobody was

17:36

like, we gotta wait until the box office

17:38

comes back for these streaming

17:40

a sort of their national natural environment,

17:43

so maybe we can do some doc

17:45

Rerex Man Tiger King

17:47

Bro. Yeah, that's one of

17:49

the exactly

17:54

was most united. Yeah,

17:56

we were. It was like the

17:58

early days of the Pan Demmick when we were just

18:01

like this is fun and it's

18:03

that part of the cartoon where like the character goes

18:05

off the cliff and yeah, he hasn't kicked

18:07

in yet, and you're like, ha, wow,

18:13

seriously, all

18:18

right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

18:30

And we're back, and we've

18:32

been since the election

18:35

results seemed to solidify

18:38

around a Biden victory. UM,

18:40

we have been

18:42

wondering what what his inauguration

18:45

is going to look like, and particularly what

18:48

the president, the current president,

18:51

the former president, the lamb duck president

18:53

Trump is going to be doing at

18:55

that time. It's pretty unheard

18:58

of for the president not to they're

19:00

hand handing power over. Uh.

19:03

And yet it's impossible to imagine

19:05

him doing that. Nope, despite

19:08

what even Lindsay Graham has been

19:10

saying, like because you know, Lindsay Graham's even you

19:12

know, he's got to play the part of just sick

19:14

of fan but also like trying

19:16

to like wink at like a reality

19:19

based people in the political world, like, but

19:21

I get what's going on to but just just I'm kind

19:23

of going through it right now, so just bear with me. Um.

19:26

He was saying, quote, if Biden

19:28

winds up winning, yeah, I think he should

19:30

attend like doing the same thing, like,

19:32

yeah, if he ends up he is whin. He

19:34

did wind up winning by like an over eight

19:36

million votes now and counting, and

19:39

quote he's quote, I just think it's good

19:41

for the country, would be good for him.

19:43

Okay, Lindsey cut to what we were

19:46

speculating from the beginning

19:48

about what will happen if Donald Trump loses.

19:50

It's called the funk out of here. I'm

19:52

gonna do my own counter programming

19:55

on the exact same day because I'm

19:57

spiteful and petty and i have nothing else

19:59

going on for me. And that's where we're at. Um

20:02

there there, the rumors are flying now. Quote.

20:05

The tentative plan would involve Trump departing

20:07

on Marine one before flying to

20:09

his primary residents of Florida

20:12

for a four campaign

20:15

rally. Jesus m

20:17

m m m exactly.

20:20

It was never he was never gonna be there. He was always

20:22

going to do his own fucking thing and

20:24

completely ignore what's happening in d c U.

20:27

Then when they reached out, I think

20:29

Axios reached out to the White House to be like, Okay,

20:32

what's going on. We're hearing a lot about this. Um,

20:34

this is what they This is from the White

20:36

House spokesman Judd Dear saying, quote

20:39

anonymous sources who claimed to know what the president

20:41

is or is not considering having no idea.

20:43

When President Trump has an announcement about

20:46

his plans for January twenty, he will let

20:48

you know, which to me just

20:50

says, yeah, yeah, he's doing that ship, except

20:52

he'll get mad if any of us leak it before he can

20:54

put that ship on Twitter and then see the likes come in because

20:56

that's kind of his whole thing. Now, Um

20:59

yeah, wow,

21:02

yeah, I mean this could be the beginning of

21:04

sort of what we had speculated might happen,

21:07

which is like Trump is the shadow president.

21:10

It's just they're undermining everything

21:13

that the actual administration does the entire

21:15

time and is basically

21:18

for all intents and purposes, like giving marching

21:20

orders to the you

21:22

know, chunk of the country who still supports

21:25

him and thinks he got robbed. It's not

21:28

as big of a chunk as we

21:30

think it is, right, Yeah, it's going down.

21:34

Well, yeah, you can only stay so angry

21:37

at things you can't prove for a while.

21:39

Like I get like the dude people who lost

21:41

their manufacturing jobs and still have that energy

21:43

for immigrants. Not that I say it's reasonable or

21:46

rational, but like you can at least point

21:48

to data in your life and say,

21:50

I'm still unemployed. My existence

21:52

is not what I think it could be. I have this anger

21:55

to now be redirected into xenophobia,

21:58

whereas like this ship, there's nothing

22:00

aside from like unless you're purely

22:02

we're just on that train of like this can't

22:04

be happening. It's hard

22:07

to look every day and be like, well, there really

22:09

isn't shift for me to sink my teeth into, like

22:11

from from a place that's really going to inspire

22:13

sincere outrage aside

22:15

from just taking an l in the culture war. Yeah,

22:18

for this to be happening around the whole like nexium

22:21

like buzz or

22:23

whatever, when that whole, like it just

22:25

it felt so much like wow, this

22:27

is a cult, Like this is how people

22:30

and cults think, where no matter what you throw

22:32

it, then that's like fact. It's just like now

22:35

sorry, my leader says opposite. Yeah,

22:38

it's I think it's a It's also like

22:40

those scenes and like cult films were like the

22:42

cult, like it starts off as like this non

22:45

cult thing, but as it starts turning into

22:47

the cult, like they start shedding the like reasonable

22:49

people who are like oh, I don't know, like I think,

22:51

okay, y'all do that. They're like, see the nonbelievers

22:53

are gone. And then it's like accelerating,

22:56

and I think we're in that stage now where they're

22:58

shedding people like not that they're

23:00

going against the Trump campaign,

23:02

but they're less inspired by like what

23:05

the programming is when they tune in

23:08

right, Um,

23:11

so NBC will presumably be

23:13

covering this instead of the inauguration

23:16

if we if we're we learned anything

23:18

from the actual presidential

23:21

campaign though, I mean, do you think he's

23:23

got I mean I know that sure he says to

23:26

like keep the momentum up, but like we've

23:28

seen, like he what he already raised, like a hundred

23:30

eighty million off the backs of his stopped to steal

23:32

nonsense, where three fourths

23:35

of the money donated can go to whatever the

23:37

funk he wants. I gets stipulated in those

23:39

donations. So I don't know

23:41

if this is truly too that he has

23:43

the energy or he just knows this is the best

23:45

way, this is the best market employ to get

23:47

more asses in the seats for

23:50

whatever is going to happen on January. Energy

23:54

doesn't seem to be the thing that's going to stop

23:56

him. He seems like, you know,

23:58

the thing that makes him

24:00

so toxic as a human being is

24:03

also the thing that drives him, which is

24:05

like the gaping

24:07

sucking wound where other people

24:09

have souls, Like that's the thing that

24:12

is just driving him. Vacuum.

24:14

Yeah, just like so much pain that

24:17

like he is not acknowledging and

24:19

like that apparently works

24:23

as like a internal combustion

24:25

engine of just grief and like

24:27

all all the human feelings

24:30

that the rest of us have that he is not acknowledging

24:32

and are just like being disintegrated. H

24:35

Maybe we just need like the ghost of his dad

24:38

to be like, look, I'm proud of you.

24:40

Look I fucked up. Kid. Could have done

24:42

it differently. I totally would have. Man, I should have been there

24:44

for you, and I wasn't and I did. It eats me

24:46

up in hell every day it does.

24:49

But you know what, buddy will be together in

24:51

about fourteen hours. So um,

24:55

yeah, I don't know if it's it's

24:57

it's almost like he's using the arrogance

24:59

as the steam to power his dreams

25:03

um as one Kanye West once said,

25:05

But yeah it is. I don't. He definitely

25:08

needs the cheers and as long

25:10

as that's going, he'll just say whatever he has to. But there

25:12

was I think it's in the New Republic or Mother Jones,

25:14

like they were pointing out, like one theme about

25:16

a lot of his speeches throughout the last four years

25:18

was how he would always lament about his

25:20

old life publicly.

25:23

Yeah, and like how he was just

25:25

like you know, maybe I should just go back, you know, I had

25:27

a lot of good stuff. They're like, I don't know why I do this,

25:30

Like if maybe at some level of that thinking

25:32

will also overtake him where it's like he

25:35

likes the optics of the confrontation,

25:37

but deep down doesn't he just want to swing his golf

25:39

club all day and just yell at a TV

25:41

and not have to lead. Yeah,

25:44

at the same time, like he

25:47

I think that's part of his narrative,

25:49

right, the central like myth that

25:51

they're trying to build around his presidency, that

25:54

like he didn't need to do this, and

25:56

he like he didn't want to successful.

25:58

I was having so much fun on and then but

26:01

like in terms of the things that feed

26:04

his like poisonous

26:06

uh soul, I feel like the

26:09

just you can't beat the

26:12

public attention that he's gotten, Like

26:14

no human has gobbled

26:17

up the sheer like mass of attention

26:19

and human like willpower and

26:22

um thinking that he has. And

26:24

that is like the ultimate execution of

26:27

a narcissist, right, Like of a narcissist

26:29

fantasy is to be the center

26:31

of attention. Like I I feel

26:33

like that's probably gonna proved to

26:35

be a pretty toxic um

26:38

or pretty like attractive potion

26:41

for him to just give up cold turkey. Do

26:43

you think he can jump the shark, so to speak.

26:47

I mean his like attempt at you know,

26:49

like like any any operation

26:52

that is about staying relevant or keeping

26:54

interest of people that are watching, Like

26:56

there will always be that moment like, oh, okay,

26:58

you did all you didn't have to do that. But

27:01

it's so weird to think because his whole presidency

27:03

is you didn't have your you shouldn't

27:05

be doing any of this. Um.

27:08

But I don't know if there's like a moment where it

27:10

becomes a little too much

27:12

for everyone involved. I think I

27:15

think he'll definitely have trouble like

27:17

unifying the message

27:20

and all the attention around himself

27:22

like he did when he was the president. It's

27:24

like still wild. Every time I think

27:26

about the fact that like he was

27:29

the president, still is the President's pretty

27:31

wild. So that was like a big part

27:33

of like the unprecedented just like

27:37

fusion machine of like

27:39

what was that

27:43

could be? That could be? Alright?

27:51

Um, I mean to be fair, like with the way the liberal

27:53

media is, like Joe Biden has some pretty good ghostwriters.

27:59

Trumput only a little pump because

28:01

even I mean, would Weezy sign up for

28:03

the for the clap back, you know, because he's

28:05

already been like because

28:09

there people speculating about that was a difference,

28:11

like fifty didn't like Wheezy must

28:13

have got a check since he posed

28:15

and everything. So oh yeah,

28:18

they all I think basically

28:20

all of them got checks. Um.

28:22

That was part of the strategy,

28:24

which is just like the most condescending, shitty

28:26

strategy. Your soul to another

28:29

soulless peddler. Right, let's

28:32

talk about Kelly

28:34

Leffler. Is that how you pronounced? Yeah? Yeah,

28:37

So she had a debate

28:39

over the weekend that was

28:42

I actually didn't watch I just saw the

28:45

sort of ripples from it on social

28:47

media. Most people did. Yeah yeah,

28:49

but it's it seems like it was just

28:51

a great uh

28:54

performance of being just out of touch

28:56

with reality. Yeah,

28:59

I mean, this joy just These runoff races

29:01

are again the focal point

29:03

of American politics because

29:06

if the Democrats win both, then

29:08

they can control the Senate, you know,

29:10

and then you have Kamala Harris being the tie

29:13

breaking vote as Mike Pence was

29:15

um this last administration. So

29:17

everyone's like, oh funk, what's going on there? You know John

29:20

Ausoff and and David Purdue is

29:22

one of the races where Perdue has been

29:24

just thoroughly fucked up

29:27

in like the debates before, while

29:29

Austof has done really cool things to let

29:31

progressives down by being like, I'm not really here to

29:33

defund the police or medicare for really

29:35

anyone, but um,

29:38

so you know you have that going on. And David

29:41

Purdue has now just declined to debate

29:43

at all, like Ausof goes up

29:45

against an empty podium now when they have debates.

29:48

Kelly Leffler, on the other hand, she's

29:51

she's got her head in the in the

29:53

wall Street clouds or something. But because

29:55

she still is debating Raphael

29:58

Warnock in their race, And I

30:00

just want to let you know, like for people who don't who

30:02

follow like we you hear us say the

30:04

name. You know, Kelly Leffler

30:06

is under serious scrutiny right now for all

30:09

of the stocks, like millions of dollars

30:11

worth of stocks she dumped when she caught wind

30:13

of the pandemic, hitting like she

30:15

was briefed on it. And she goes around

30:17

and instead of like cell cell cells,

30:21

um, like you know, and got the jump on

30:23

any other traders um. And just

30:25

to keep another thing in mind, she's also I

30:27

think the wealthiest senator ever and her

30:29

husband is the chairman of the fucking New

30:31

York Stock Exchange. This is

30:33

this is the fucking group that we're dealing with

30:35

when we talk about Kelly Leffler. So the absolute

30:38

fucking rot that is, you

30:40

know, the representatives in our government are just

30:42

these corporate wealth hoarders who want

30:45

to put a mask on and pretending they're a working

30:47

person and be like, I'm fighting for you. So

30:49

this debate, I don't think anyone

30:51

thought she was gonna have do much of anything

30:54

impressive because she's been on the stop

30:56

to steal nonsense, etcetera, etcetera. So

30:59

this one was just sort of like one of those moments

31:01

where you just see like a person who

31:04

I don't know, like she just took a handful of greed

31:06

pills before she went on the stage, because

31:08

her performance has no soul um

31:11

and she lies so

31:13

casually, um like

31:16

like in a time when the fucking

31:18

stakes could not be higher for her

31:20

constituents or anyone in this country

31:22

right now. So let's start off with

31:25

um. This first moment

31:27

where she's just they're

31:29

they're asking her, Hey, which thing do

31:31

you think Trump lost? And she pivots into

31:34

socialism? Bad? Did you believe

31:36

that the election was rigged? Look,

31:38

Greg, it's very clear that there were issues

31:41

in this election. There are two hundred and fifty investigations

31:43

open, including an investigation into

31:46

one of my opponents organizations, you

31:48

know, for voter fraud. And we

31:50

have to make sure that Georgian's trust this process

31:53

because of what's at stake in this election.

31:56

You know, the promise that Chuck Shumer

31:58

made was to fundamental change America,

32:01

and I'm making sure that we don't go down the road

32:03

of socialism. Okay, so again,

32:05

did the did the president lose socialism?

32:09

But also you kind of you kind

32:11

of winked there because you said everything's at

32:13

stake, meaning that Trump

32:15

isn't president, and if you lose the Senate,

32:18

then the Libs will be

32:20

drinking your tears, so to speak. So

32:23

you know, but that's one way to put it.

32:25

That. Moving on in the debate, what's kind of cool

32:27

is that they get to ask each other questions,

32:30

like rather than have a moderator do like there are

32:32

moderators that ask questions, but also they

32:34

can ask just pointed debate questions

32:36

to each other. So, Raphael Warnock,

32:39

you know a fucking a pastor

32:41

who, by the way, Kelly Leffler has been to

32:43

his church and sat with him on like MLK

32:46

Day and things like that, while she also is like he's

32:48

a radical, blah blah blah. Okay, check

32:50

yourself, Kelly. Um. He asked

32:52

her just sort of fundamentally, like you, where

32:54

are your priorities at? And again, really

32:57

not great answer from her. You dumped

32:59

mill millions of dollars of stock in

33:02

order to protect your own investments, and then weeks

33:04

later, when there came an opportunity

33:07

to give ordinary Georgians

33:09

an extra six hundred dollars of relief,

33:11

you said you saw no need and called it

33:14

counterproductive. Why do you think

33:16

it's counterproductive to help ordinary

33:18

Jordan's in the middle of a pandemic?

33:22

Well, thank you for that question, because I've been completely

33:25

exonerated. Those are lies perpetrated

33:27

by the left wing media and Democrats

33:30

to distract from their radical agenda.

33:33

Since I got to the Senate, I've worked hard to deliver

33:36

relief to Georgians during this pandemic.

33:38

Okay, So she goes on and just waffles, But

33:40

yeah, right,

33:42

that she was I

33:45

don't know where that even came from,

33:48

aside from literally just saying that out

33:50

loud. David Purdue is also running

33:52

ads saying he's been completely exonerated,

33:55

Like dude, you're under investigation, Like

33:58

there's not there's nothing even remotely resembling

34:00

exoneration for you. So again

34:04

very casually, Oh no,

34:07

like just I don't know what this is, Like

34:09

what's the indication is here? Like

34:11

you get to a certain point where like you

34:14

just know, like it doesn't matter what I say, I just have

34:16

to go up and if I don't get too fired

34:18

up, I'll just lie and then everything's

34:21

all good. The dead eyes

34:23

are are noteworthy. We're we're

34:25

actually sharing your screen and why and

34:27

watching it and there there's just

34:30

a like and

34:32

a smile though on top of it,

34:34

she has this like tight lips smile when

34:36

he's asking the question and then she goes into

34:39

the answer and like nothing changes

34:41

from the nose up. It's just the

34:44

eyes are like lifeless,

34:47

Yeah, because they're just like quin when he's talking

34:49

about the USS Indianapolis going down,

34:51

dull lifeless eyes like

34:54

a doll, like a dolls

34:56

eyes. Yeah, it's there. I

34:59

don't know speaking of the dolls eyes.

35:01

I do have to say, she looks

35:04

like they put a like

35:08

extra large dolls

35:10

hair on a extra

35:13

medium person's like

35:15

body. Her like it's it's

35:17

not like her hair looks amazing.

35:20

It's like very long and

35:22

luscious, but it's just weird.

35:24

It's like missized. It's like they

35:27

like her wig. Her wig jumped

35:29

to the shark. Her wig is it's

35:31

very real housewives slash big

35:34

little lies kind of hair where it's like wigs.

35:38

And then lastly she has another moment

35:40

where she again we're talking about

35:43

accusations of fucking insider

35:45

trading, okay, where

35:48

someone is using their proximity

35:50

to the decision making apparatus

35:52

is apparatuses in this country

35:54

to benefit themselves by using this knowledge,

35:56

not to warn the constituents, but to warn

35:59

her fucking stock portfolio managers

36:01

how to get her money. Right. So, one

36:04

of the moderators asked a very fair question,

36:06

just straight up, you know, should fucking sitting

36:09

people in Congress be allowed to trade

36:11

stocks? Should

36:13

members of Congress be barred from trading

36:15

stocks? Look?

36:18

Straight up, what's at stake here in

36:20

this election is the American

36:23

dream. That's what's under attack. When

36:26

they attack me for a lie, a

36:28

left wing media lie conspired

36:31

with the Democrats. By this is an

36:33

attack on every single Georgian who

36:35

gets up every day to work

36:37

hard to provide a better life for

36:40

their family, that wants to live

36:42

the American dream. Wow,

36:45

that's what the fun that's

36:48

brand on the American dream brand.

36:50

Also like skips a couple of sentences and

36:53

just like there's like an internal edit

36:55

in the middle of that where like she just goes from

36:57

one sentence to the next without any like

37:00

it's like halfway through one sentence, she just moves

37:03

to the next one. It's very uncanny.

37:06

Yeah, but that is. Yeah,

37:09

it's what all the Republicans and people now are taking

37:12

notes from Trump and they're like, oh, ship, turns

37:14

out we don't actually we don't have to directly

37:16

answer questions. Yeah,

37:18

because I think of

37:20

reality. Hey, guys, white, don't

37:25

worry about me. I'm white. Don't worry about me. If

37:27

just if I'm making money, don't worry about me. What's

37:29

Raphael war knock up to the pastor

37:32

of a church. Oh god, what

37:34

what could he be doing? Yeah, it's

37:36

it's this whole thing of Also this

37:39

like paras social relationship to the

37:41

billionaire class, like this fucked up class

37:43

solidarity where they always

37:45

disingenuously be like, I mean, they're trying

37:47

to take my right to fucking

37:50

skull fuck the stock market

37:52

and you know, funck over working people.

37:55

Um, that's an attack against y'all too.

37:57

I don't know if you get that, poor people,

38:00

they're coming for you too. If I

38:02

can't fucking pillage and just take

38:04

what you know, just completely manipulate

38:06

my stocks with the information I have, that's

38:09

an attack on you too. You also come on pull

38:11

up for me. Mm hmm, Yeah,

38:14

it's it's an attack on our ability to

38:16

wake up and work. And her

38:20

her decision to not

38:22

react with policy to protect

38:25

the people who she's supposed to be governing,

38:27

but instead to react with uh,

38:30

you know, protecting her own financial

38:32

position is an attack.

38:35

Pointing that out as an attack on can

38:37

you imagine like any other situation,

38:40

like you got caught cheating, like

38:42

in a relationship, and they're like, oh, you

38:44

see, that's a seem to know, we're not doing

38:46

that right now, because what you're doing is

38:49

attacking the core values of

38:51

this country, which is the freedom of choice.

38:54

Okay, and I chose to

38:56

sleep with that other person. Now if we're

38:58

gonna go there, I mean, we might have this is a constitutional

39:01

argument now, like and that's sort of the same

39:03

disingenuous place they

39:05

speak from all the time and are almost

39:08

like they treat decency as

39:10

absurdity, and like that's

39:12

the thing now, and they are in a

39:14

way they've they've effectively communicated

39:17

that sentiment to a large group of people. So

39:20

I want to talk about because I mean, like

39:22

you were mentioning up top, she was

39:24

one of you know at the time when Trump

39:26

was saying, we know it's airborne, It's

39:29

very scary. It's going to be like one of the

39:31

biggest uh, you

39:33

know, security problems

39:36

that we faced as a country, and like decades

39:39

when he was acknowledging that he knew that while

39:41

saying to the public it's not as big a deal,

39:43

she was getting that same

39:45

information that it was going to be a massive

39:48

health concern. Not doing anything

39:51

and selling selling

39:53

off her stocks, like she to

39:55

reflect the information that she or

39:57

to prove that she knew what was is

40:00

actually happening in reality. So that is

40:02

how US politicians,

40:05

the people who are responsible for governing

40:07

our state states are

40:10

governing. I think that's a good sample

40:13

of like how how you

40:16

know, broadly, just the

40:18

kind of intellectual corruption

40:21

of the two parties

40:24

that run America have affected

40:26

the people and made it difficult

40:28

to contain this virus. So

40:31

do as I say, not as I do. Right, So

40:34

Australia has a

40:36

counter factual counterpoint to that

40:39

example in Victoria,

40:42

which is where the city Melbourne is

40:45

located, and they

40:47

were during the second Wave.

40:50

They were the hardest hit state. It's

40:53

case, numbers were dwarfing those in every

40:55

other state, including New South Wales

40:57

which is where Sydney is um

41:00

And so their policymakers

41:03

decided toy. They

41:05

listened to a

41:07

a bunch of experts who came up with this idea

41:10

to what they were calling Gopher

41:12

zero, which is just like it's just sorry

41:14

to interrupt. I get aroused when I hear

41:17

saying and they're listening to experts,

41:19

Yeah yeah, like fuck really

41:21

wow, that's so hot. You're you know,

41:24

you fucking acknowledge what you don't know? Sot

41:28

in my veins. They were like, we tried

41:30

flattening the curve, we tried slowing

41:32

the spread. We feel like those you

41:34

know, because you're trying to just muster

41:37

public support around a thing that's

41:39

sort of diffuse and ill defined.

41:42

Uh, we're going to do this thing called Gopher

41:44

zero. Uh. This involved

41:46

a Stage four lockdown where

41:49

most businesses were closed, There was a nightly

41:51

curfew. Residents were ordered to stay

41:53

within five kilometers of their home all

41:57

for all of August and into September

42:00

UM with the explicit goal of eventually

42:03

reaching zero new cases. Now again,

42:06

this is not some you

42:08

know place that is known for

42:11

just being obedient,

42:13

and this is Australia. You know. They

42:15

they're pretty rough

42:18

and tumbleful convicts,

42:21

right, they're all they don't funk with. It's

42:23

not like they're just right

42:26

like a lot of former English colonies. Some

42:29

of us don't know how to act. Sometimes

42:31

they wake up and salute

42:33

the queen every morning. Uh, this is

42:35

Australia. And so they

42:38

set this goal. They established underlying

42:40

components that were needed and provided

42:43

strong social support. So they expanded

42:45

testing including random

42:47

pulled testing and testing for workers in

42:49

essential industries, twenty

42:51

four hour turnarounds for test results,

42:54

contact tracing, mandatory isolation

42:57

um and but

43:00

most importantly, they made it easier

43:02

for businesses and workers by

43:04

providing subsidies to businesses

43:06

to keep people employed by increasing

43:08

their unemployment benefits. And the

43:11

experts said, a

43:13

system that relies on self isolation,

43:16

in which people are unable or refused

43:18

to self isolate, cannot succeed.

43:21

So they enacted policies

43:24

that made it so you had to isolate

43:26

and do the things that were necessary

43:29

to improve public safety. And

43:32

for four weeks now they haven't seen a

43:34

single new case of

43:36

coronavirus for four weeks. They

43:39

did the very difficult thing.

43:42

Uh, and it's not complicated,

43:44

it's it is difficult. It's

43:46

hard. They had to make sacrifices. But

43:49

the government stepped up and was like, Okay, we're

43:51

going to cover the costs

43:54

to your businesses, to you

43:56

personally, We're going to cover those costs

43:58

for the next two months so that thereafter

44:01

we can get back to something approximating

44:04

normal life. And now

44:07

they're down at zero. Now they're

44:09

you know, talking making decisions

44:11

like well if a case, if

44:13

a single case pops up, will

44:15

we still have normal Christmas,

44:18

like you know, shopping and all

44:21

the things that you would expect

44:23

there to be in any capitalist society. But

44:25

they are starting from a place of zero

44:27

new cases in the last four weeks. And

44:30

yeah, I just think. I mean, the US government

44:33

is actively choosing not

44:35

to do the difficult things

44:37

it would require to stop the pandemic. Like

44:40

that's what that story tells me. They're not providing

44:43

the economic safety net, they're not setting

44:45

a goal for all Americans to follow

44:47

a k leadership. Um.

44:50

This would definitely be more challenging in the US

44:52

since Australia is more politically

44:55

homogeneous, But the US just

44:58

isn't even trying. They're

45:00

not even like beginning the process

45:02

because yeah, because these solutions

45:05

are just run diametrically

45:07

opposed to how the American system

45:09

has operated, which is sort of like, yeah, we help

45:11

people sometimes, like let's be real, man, there's

45:13

enough money here to be extracted out of the wherever

45:16

that you should be able to bootstrap it the funk up

45:18

the whole time. And this idea that

45:20

like you have to come through and

45:23

provide Yes, that's how you eliminate

45:25

the need for people to even like have the reason

45:27

to go outside. Like even like if you're

45:30

debating someone, if someone's like, well heyo,

45:32

man, get back in your house, and they say, well, I gotta

45:34

get out here and work, man, I have no fucking choice.

45:36

What do you want me to fucking do like not

45:38

eat or get evictive. No, like I have to

45:40

be out here. Then you would be like, okay,

45:43

bet so, then what I have to do is figure out

45:45

how you I can eliminate those pressures

45:47

for you. So then I'll have to be like, oh

45:49

is it that hard to stay at home? Your rent is paid

45:52

for, I'm subsidizing your income.

45:54

All you gotta do is stay the funk at home until

45:56

this ship blows over. But we don't have that here. It's

45:58

just like, hey, man, if if you can't,

46:00

God bless stay at home. And if you can't,

46:02

God bless man because it's rough out there and

46:05

there's no there's no um.

46:07

We just don't have like that real like

46:09

duty to our citizens that most

46:11

countries do in general. And what would

46:14

be tough about implementing this now

46:16

is people would be like, well, we already had

46:18

a lockdown, why

46:20

would we do this again? It didn't work the

46:22

first time. But it's like Australia did like

46:24

a legit lockdown, where we did

46:27

like a half asked lockdown, But

46:30

that's not going to get through to most people

46:32

now at this point.

46:33

Yeah, I think the only

46:35

way you could is if you really did both

46:38

like like every money, Yeah, every

46:40

other country got the picture. It's

46:42

like, right, give them money. Stop

46:45

the suck of bills and debts

46:47

and things like that. That, unfortunately

46:49

is like the heartbeat of America, which

46:51

is sort of like, hey man, your debts are calling,

46:54

so you better get out of bed. Take that away,

46:56

and more people can focus on like oh

46:58

right, oh wow, damn, it's like that they're actually

47:01

paying me to stay home. Right,

47:04

Maybe they're gonna get They're going to get used to

47:06

it though. That's we we have to fight

47:08

communisms so much to

47:10

the point that we can't even

47:13

let people survive a pandemic

47:16

by helping them pay for their life.

47:18

Well we do a lockdown, because

47:21

that that will be they have it

47:23

too good. Yeah,

47:25

it's definitely a very

47:27

deep problem, uh,

47:29

in the American psyche collectively.

47:33

But it's the media. It's the

47:36

politicians, like how the media

47:38

covers the politicians and how the politicians

47:40

lead, uh, that really is

47:43

preventing this from happening. And even like

47:45

when at the beginning we were saying, when

47:48

looking at like the really shitty

47:50

you know, when we were comparing other countries lockdown

47:52

situations to our own very early on,

47:55

and we're like, why are they reopening because like, even

47:57

we're not economist, but you'd think the

48:00

best version of a reopening situation

48:02

is one in which you can reopen because you

48:04

you have it under control, and being

48:06

like any business owner, like it's dude,

48:08

I can't just open up at with

48:10

only like of the consumers

48:13

out there. Like the version that's best for

48:15

me is you get this ship in order and

48:17

we can somewhat have some kind

48:20

of same safety and movement

48:22

that we did prior. Obviously with some you know

48:25

edits here and there, But you think that at

48:27

that point you can just tell the money it's

48:29

it's gonna run smoother if you eliminate

48:31

this and just go through the halting of everything

48:34

for for the interim, but whatever,

48:37

I gotta keep your money going, yeah,

48:39

even if it's worse for the

48:41

long run. That's the thing that seems

48:44

like a real difference between America

48:46

now. In America when it was

48:48

supposedly great, like during World War Two,

48:51

where they would like do rations

48:53

and you know, make sacrifices

48:56

in the short run for long term benefit,

48:59

and now it seems like the

49:01

government and the populists

49:03

aren't like really down

49:05

with them. But we'll see,

49:08

all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back

49:10

and talk about Pete Davidson. And

49:22

we're back and let's

49:25

talk about Staten Island, our

49:29

Victoria, our Melbourne. Uh,

49:31

Staten Island, s I

49:34

n y. Yeah. You

49:36

know, there's there's a bar there that's

49:38

been getting a lot of attention. And this just comes

49:40

off the heels of what we were just talking about

49:42

with Australia, Like before we get into like laughing

49:45

at like businesses that are staying open in the midst

49:47

of a pandemic. I think it's always important

49:49

to point out that, you know,

49:51

the thwarting of these restrictions would would

49:54

be a natural response for anyone when

49:56

the government gives small businesses fucking

49:58

no financial re courses whatsoever

50:01

to stay afloat. You're like, well, then what

50:03

do I Yes, people are going to try

50:05

and stay open because they have to get money. I get

50:07

that. So I just I'm always thinking of that in the back

50:09

of my mind, is that we just have this barbaric

50:12

way of handling the whole Yeah, but Miles, the

50:14

thing is that the state of New

50:16

York is only one of the largest economies

50:18

on the planet, so there's no way they could

50:20

fund the business

50:25

like Victoria, the

50:27

financial center of the globe,

50:30

Victoria, Australia. So

50:32

yeah, I mean, like you know which,

50:34

it's just so funny too, because for all these businesses

50:36

that are like staying open, like they're just like one

50:39

idea away from embracing socialism,

50:41

because rather than being like, let me infect

50:44

people with my business, it should

50:46

be subsidize our lost

50:48

revenue like you did for the fucking

50:50

airlines. Why the funk does a corporation

50:53

get the day off and I have to almost

50:56

die every night. It's

50:58

just it's just one if you were

51:00

just like at the railway, you just have to pull the fucking

51:02

thing to get the train, just to go the other

51:04

way. You know, the energy is still there,

51:07

it's just going to the wrong fucking station.

51:10

When it should be like give us our fucking money

51:12

rather than like let me kill so

51:15

anyway, this pub it's

51:17

called Max Public House in Staten

51:19

Island, they've been the focal point

51:22

of a lot of these like pandemic things.

51:24

They declared themselves like an autonomous

51:26

zone at a certain point to be like we are

51:28

there for like sovereign businesses

51:31

who don't abide by the laws of the land. Um,

51:34

and they are the manager

51:36

of this place. Was arrested again

51:39

on Sunday night for opening and serving

51:41

and like being cheeky and just being like no, I'm

51:43

just people are coming in and I'm taking donations.

51:46

Um. And that's what was going on, even though

51:48

the donation is resembles the menu

51:50

pricing. UM. So he this guy

51:52

was arrested. He was also like when

51:55

he was when they were attempting the arrest, he almost

51:57

fucking like he hit a cop with his

51:59

car and was like trying to flee. It was

52:01

very intense, and Pete

52:04

Davidson has like talked about it on Weekend

52:06

Update, like just being like, look at these cry babies.

52:09

You know, I thought like doing

52:11

his whole thing, like talking about it and

52:13

after this like arrest apparently

52:15

this so there is a fucking

52:17

press conference with a lawyer who

52:20

came out just who goes by the name

52:22

Mr Tobacco, and

52:24

I wanted to address all the

52:26

hate duration he's seen from thirty

52:29

Rock. Uh, he knows who we

52:31

know who he's talking about. To come at Pete Davidson

52:33

even like evokes his dead father at

52:36

a certain point. I'm just gonna play

52:39

just check out again, imagine

52:41

what a seedy guy who's proclaiming

52:44

to be a lawyer who doesn't want to be named

52:46

first of all, it was to just be known as Mr Tobacco

52:50

is caping for these people in this culture war

52:52

battle. That you have mega millionaires

52:55

on the national spotlight like the folks

52:57

on Saturday Night Live, um,

53:00

and instead of making fun of their friends and

53:02

the local business owners who are broke and

53:05

crushed and bankrupt, instead

53:07

of coming down here as fellow Staten

53:09

Islanders and standing up for them and bringing a

53:11

positive light to this thing, what they

53:13

want to do is go on national TV and try

53:15

to humiliate the little man when he's down. And

53:18

to me, that's quite disgusting. And as

53:20

I mentioned before, my dad was a member of the n

53:22

y p D, the

53:24

King of Staton Islands. Dad was a

53:26

proud fireman and a great friend of mine. And

53:29

I saw a Staton Islanders heavily come out

53:31

and support him, his mom, his

53:34

family and everyone else in

53:36

a time of need after nine eleven when I

53:38

cried for his father. So when

53:40

I hear stuff like this, it hits

53:42

me emotionally when I think, Wow, if

53:45

you came out of your perch in your

53:47

affluent neighborhood and came down

53:49

here and told the liberal left this is a good

53:51

thing because it's about all freedom and liberty.

53:54

We probably wouldn't be standing here today talking

53:57

about a political prisoner who was the victim

53:59

of my view, a political ambush.

54:03

Missed the tobacco, please missed

54:07

the tobacco. Wow. He

54:09

had the thing where, like you, you just had

54:12

enough drinks to get a good

54:14

performance out, but you

54:16

had like a quartership too many

54:18

where you start s learning a little bit like

54:20

if you if you drink, you know that you

54:23

have a drink bro just to see

54:25

you know, we saw his father

54:27

there, and I'm getting a little emotional, like

54:30

the cadence was a little like

54:33

could be great acting, could be a little

54:35

bit of a little rum go

54:37

before going out there. But this idea

54:39

of like again, we're seeing the thing where he's

54:42

like, these businesses are being crushed by who

54:44

by her? From? What

54:46

What is the situation in which that allowed

54:49

for the crush Because on some level they do

54:51

know that people are being adversely affective.

54:53

But it's got to fucking connect the next

54:55

dot you fuck, it's not Pete Davidson

54:58

laughing at you at the fucking government

55:00

has absolutely turned their back on people.

55:03

That's what it is, right. He

55:05

immediately couches it as like a question

55:08

of liberty and that,

55:11

but yeah, it's again

55:13

we're just trying to how do we go that

55:15

next step because it yes, you're

55:18

so caught up in this language of freedom

55:20

or liberty, but there it's

55:22

absolutely and like it's too abstract

55:25

that the government would have any hand

55:27

in ensuring their well being as American

55:29

citizens. I mean, you know,

55:31

we've talked before about how in

55:33

other countries they view the

55:36

apotheosis of America as the gangster

55:39

because they just you know, strong armed people

55:41

get get the money they need. And this

55:43

dude, definitely uh is given

55:46

off mobbed up vibes. And

55:51

I think Americans like there

55:54

there's a big portion of America that

55:56

would rather be corrupt

55:59

than like socialist. For

56:02

I meant, whether that's true or whether

56:04

that's just like part of the like

56:07

central myth of America. I

56:09

feel like the the idea that you

56:11

know, Mr Tobacco is more

56:14

American than uh, somebody

56:16

who's trying to unionize

56:19

truly, And it's just like, yeah, because all of our

56:21

stories aren't about helping each other

56:23

or helping others. All the stories

56:26

of America in history about kicking someone's

56:28

ass. Who fucking wants

56:30

it? The fucking Brits, bro, I'll

56:33

kick your ass. The fucking Slavers,

56:35

Bro. You get your ass kicked. The Nazis.

56:38

You're fucking done, bro. Like,

56:40

it's never like who needs

56:43

it? The like? People

56:45

who are handy capable, Like do we need

56:47

the like? Actually subsidize

56:49

better lives for them, the working poor,

56:52

the invisible homeless, Like,

56:54

it's never it's just about ass kicking.

56:56

It's never about fucking embracing.

56:58

So yeah, like it. It totally makes sense

57:01

that we're always just to funking like, well, who's

57:03

winning? Right? Yeah,

57:05

Well here's the deal. We're all losing. Actually,

57:08

so how about that? All

57:10

right, and let's do a quick update on the

57:12

Havana syndrome. Shout

57:14

out to Zeitgang. Can't

57:17

name all of the people who for this article

57:19

to me, but every

57:21

time a new new development

57:23

happens, it gets brought to my attention.

57:25

I appreciate you' all. So The New York

57:28

Times, a bunch of mainstream

57:30

media outlets m MPR wrote

57:32

about this new report from nineteen experts

57:35

those commissioned by the State Department, and

57:37

they're interpreting it as a pretty firm

57:40

declaration that the Havana syndrome

57:42

was the result of a malicious

57:44

attack with directed microwaves.

57:47

The report itself doesn't

57:50

really say that. They basically say that

57:52

that is possible and

57:55

the most likely scenario, while

57:58

also making room for

58:00

the possibility that it's psychosomatic.

58:03

The symptoms are, you

58:05

know, the things that their

58:08

interpretation of the report, because I haven't read

58:10

all like sixty pages of the report,

58:12

but the thing that their interpretation

58:14

of the report leaves out is like how diffuse

58:17

the symptoms are. There's like this

58:19

diplomat in China who supposedly

58:22

experienced the same thing, but

58:24

he like heard marbles dropping

58:26

on the floor above him, whereas all the

58:28

people in Cuba heard

58:31

like a high pitched wine. Uh

58:34

it's so, which um

58:38

summary of what diserence? Oh

58:40

yeah, sorry, So I just like launched

58:42

into this assuming alright, so

58:45

what marbles. It's

58:48

a really good point, Thank you, Alison.

58:51

So the Vena syndrome is basically a

58:54

bunch of diplomats in Havana

58:57

from two thousand sixteen to two thousand eighteen

59:00

started like hearing weird noises

59:02

and then suffering symptoms of like uh,

59:05

nausea, confusion,

59:07

forgetfulness, some of them

59:09

like lost their balance for like

59:11

prolonged periods, and they

59:15

speculated that they were the victims

59:17

of like a targeted attack, and

59:19

it started spreading. They were like, you

59:22

know, forty of them in the Havana

59:24

location. This led to the Trump administration

59:27

pulling diplomats out of Cuba.

59:30

Um. A lot of them are also like CIA

59:32

agents who were like undercover

59:35

as diplomats. But basically

59:38

the weapons that they described

59:41

in the first place are not possible

59:44

via physics, Like there's no way to do

59:46

a sound wave thing like and

59:49

not only that, but like scientists

59:51

like don't think that

59:53

you could cause the problems that they're

59:56

describing with sound waves. And the

59:58

more that people have reported on

1:00:01

it, the more there's a very plausible

1:00:03

case that it is in fact

1:00:05

like psychosomatic um and

1:00:09

that basically, you know, they

1:00:11

were in new environments.

1:00:15

For instance, they recorded the sound that they

1:00:17

thought was making it that was coming from the weapon,

1:00:19

and biologists were like, that's actually just

1:00:21

a type of cricket that's only

1:00:24

in Cuba that you've never heard before. So

1:00:27

they were hearing weird sounds feeling weird

1:00:29

ways. Um. And the question

1:00:31

is whether, like the actual physical symptoms

1:00:34

we're psychosomatic, or whether

1:00:37

they were caused by what

1:00:40

the State Department is now speculating our microwave

1:00:42

weapons. And they're pretty

1:00:44

clearly connecting it to Russia.

1:00:47

They're like, Russia has experimented with these

1:00:49

before. Um,

1:00:51

but nobody, like a lot of countries

1:00:53

have have experimented with trying

1:00:56

to create microwave weapons that are untraceable

1:00:59

like these up here to be uh and

1:01:01

can be targeted like this, and people

1:01:03

like don't even get beyond the initial

1:01:06

testing phase. It's just not a thing

1:01:08

that scientists think is

1:01:11

feasible. Um. So the

1:01:14

New York Times, uh

1:01:17

So, here's a here's a quote from the New New York Times

1:01:19

article. They say, though couched in careful

1:01:21

scientific language, the new report

1:01:23

reveals strong evidence that the incidents

1:01:26

were the result of a malicious attack. It

1:01:28

attributes the illness too directed

1:01:30

and pulsed rather than continuous

1:01:33

energy, implying that the victim's exposure

1:01:35

was targeted and not the result of

1:01:38

more common sources of microwave energy such

1:01:40

as cell phones. Um. But

1:01:42

that's that's like a very specific

1:01:45

interpretation of the events.

1:01:47

Like that they basically went looking

1:01:50

for a imaginary weapon

1:01:52

that could possibly explain these

1:01:54

symptoms and came up with these

1:01:57

microwave weapons again that no

1:02:00

U. S. Scientists is aware

1:02:02

of. Yeah, they don't exist. So

1:02:05

I think that we probably underestimate

1:02:08

how open

1:02:10

the New York Times and like our national

1:02:14

media are to being influenced

1:02:16

by government, you know, either

1:02:18

propaganda or the CIA, like

1:02:21

false information being planned by the CIA,

1:02:23

even in stories that don't involve the CIA,

1:02:26

and the story directly involves the CIA.

1:02:28

So I get the sense that

1:02:30

that's what's happening here, is that the CIA

1:02:33

and the State Department are like

1:02:36

leaning on your New

1:02:38

York's Times and uh mprs

1:02:41

to kind of take this

1:02:43

very specific interpretation make it seem

1:02:45

like, okay, so nobody was imagining

1:02:48

anything. Um, it's a very

1:02:51

I think the whole way

1:02:53

it's being covered severely under

1:02:56

rates like the strangeness

1:02:59

and is a goal reality of the

1:03:01

placebo effect and you know,

1:03:03

the possibility that psychosomatic

1:03:06

illnesses are real, they actually

1:03:08

have manifestations in the body. It's

1:03:10

not nobody's making anything up.

1:03:12

They're experiencing the symptoms. It's

1:03:14

just the cause of the symptoms

1:03:17

is not some outside

1:03:19

like laser beam. It's in fact the fact

1:03:21

that they had heard there was an outside laser

1:03:23

beam those targeting them hurt a weird

1:03:26

noise, and we're experiencing

1:03:28

a lot of symptoms that come

1:03:30

along with like aging, like you

1:03:32

know, forgetfulness and less

1:03:34

energy and um, loss

1:03:37

of equilibrium. Those are all things that happened

1:03:39

with aging. UM.

1:03:41

So I don't like

1:03:44

in reading this, I am no more convinced

1:03:46

that it is an actual, like sci

1:03:49

fi weapon that we don't

1:03:51

know about. I think that version

1:03:54

is very interesting, and

1:03:56

like I hope to find evidence

1:03:58

that really suggests that that is

1:04:00

what's happening here. I just like haven't

1:04:03

seen it in any of the reporting

1:04:06

on on the

1:04:08

examinations. And then the other

1:04:11

option I think is equally interesting

1:04:13

and is being discounted as like just I

1:04:15

think people like

1:04:19

one of the most overlooked mysteries in our day

1:04:21

to day lives is the power of the human

1:04:23

mind to cause physical changes in

1:04:25

the body, like the placebo effect is

1:04:28

something that all scientists

1:04:30

have to acknowledge that, like the color of

1:04:32

a pill you take before bedtime

1:04:35

affects how your body goes to sleep,

1:04:37

the ability of Placebo's to affect

1:04:39

someone's recovery from surgery like

1:04:41

that it changes our body in ways

1:04:43

that like doesn't seem like it should

1:04:46

be possible. And it's also

1:04:48

like a limit of the scientific method

1:04:50

because like anything

1:04:53

that is regards the

1:04:56

human mind like that is limited

1:04:58

by the Heisenberg principle of

1:05:00

like being able to observe it. By observing

1:05:02

it, you're changing how it actually

1:05:04

functions. And so it's like

1:05:06

the the idea that this central

1:05:08

scientific mystery could cause like

1:05:11

a world war is like kind of

1:05:13

uh, just as big a mind fuck as

1:05:15

the idea that Russia has like some

1:05:19

secret sci fi weapon that they're hiding from

1:05:21

us um or just

1:05:24

is there anything to the Like the way

1:05:26

they're even contextualizing it is like

1:05:28

completely like sort of eliminated

1:05:31

the possibilities that it could be, like because they're

1:05:33

just very myopically looking at like certain

1:05:36

well they so they made it, made

1:05:38

the possibility of psychosmatic

1:05:42

um psychological like

1:05:44

causes possible in their early

1:05:46

days, and like that's always been something that's being

1:05:49

considered, but the people who suffered

1:05:51

it are really like rail

1:05:53

against that and are really pissed and feel

1:05:55

like they're being abandoned, Like there's a whole

1:05:57

movement of people who were

1:06:00

tired because these injuries and are like you're

1:06:02

leaving us out to dry, You're calling us crazy,

1:06:05

and that's not what that

1:06:07

means in any case. And yeah,

1:06:10

there's just it's a it's a very complicated again,

1:06:12

like the anytime you're dealing

1:06:14

with a illness with a psychological

1:06:17

cause, like just the

1:06:20

suggestion of that is kind

1:06:22

of puts you in this mind fuck quandary

1:06:25

of like, well by saying that

1:06:27

that's the cause, then that affects the psyche

1:06:29

of the person for whom that is true,

1:06:32

and therefore, you know, it just

1:06:34

like keeps going down this weird reflexive

1:06:37

rabbit hole that is kind

1:06:40

of impossible to deal with. So

1:06:42

it's like this fissure in the scientific

1:06:44

method like that we

1:06:47

are seeing like kind of open up a little

1:06:49

bit and get more attention to

1:06:51

the point that it could cause

1:06:54

heightened tensions with Russia, which is

1:06:56

always scary. So pretty

1:06:59

they just need some Palo Santo. I think

1:07:01

that might be where we're at. I think, yeah,

1:07:04

the CIA is notoriously

1:07:07

underutilizes Paulo Santo. Another

1:07:10

uh smudging and energy

1:07:15

Jackson I flooded the streets

1:07:17

of silver Lake, Paulo Santo. Man,

1:07:19

you don't know, man, you don't get the

1:07:21

hipsters. Bro. That's right, trying

1:07:23

to keep us distract

1:07:28

holding crystals and now looking at socialism,

1:07:31

you know what I mean, looking

1:07:33

at social media? Yeah, and not socialism.

1:07:39

Uh shout out to Natalie Shure,

1:07:41

who continues to be very interesting to read

1:07:43

on this subject. And uh yeah,

1:07:46

if anybody has interesting you

1:07:48

know, I've read the I've read this straightforward like

1:07:50

mainstream media articles. But if you're seeing

1:07:53

people who have interesting takes or

1:07:55

other interpretations or pieces of evidence

1:07:57

that I'm missing that point to it

1:07:59

having a physical origin, like,

1:08:02

please hit me up on social because

1:08:04

this is not a thing where I'm like, I've

1:08:06

made up my mind. I think no matter

1:08:09

what is going on, this is so interesting.

1:08:12

Um yeah, yeah, fellow Havannah

1:08:14

Truthers, the

1:08:16

Havannah Knights, but with a can Yeah

1:08:19

yeah, dang that would

1:08:21

that would be an NBA team right now in

1:08:24

an alternate history, Alison,

1:08:28

where can people find you and

1:08:30

follow you? And what's a tweet or

1:08:32

some other work of social media you've been

1:08:35

enjoying. I can be found on Twitter

1:08:37

at just about glad. And also if you have an

1:08:39

audible subscription, you can listen to

1:08:41

my Audible original like Mother starring

1:08:44

me and Susie Sman. Is

1:08:47

Susie Sman. Wow, Yeah,

1:08:50

it's pretty h it's

1:08:53

intimidating. That's not

1:08:55

your mom, right? She

1:08:58

not in real life?

1:09:02

I was like, I missed something. Is Alison's mom

1:09:04

Susie askem Alison

1:09:06

Muse in the stage name mom? Can

1:09:08

you do a podcast with memin

1:09:11

to the podcast? No,

1:09:14

she plays my mom though show.

1:09:18

So that's very cool. Check

1:09:20

it out. Man love Susie is. It's cool to

1:09:22

work with her? Yeah, very cool.

1:09:25

She's like very funny. Yeah, I

1:09:28

can only imagine. And

1:09:30

Okay, here's a funny tweet that I liked

1:09:33

from Nick nimurrof at

1:09:35

nicknimur Off. He wrote, if you live in

1:09:37

Seattle, please shop local and buy

1:09:39

from Amazon. Nice

1:09:44

solving the world one tweet at

1:09:46

a time, Miles, where can people

1:09:48

find you in? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh?

1:09:51

Twitter? Instagram at

1:09:53

Miles of Gray. Also other podcasts for Twenty

1:09:55

Day Fiancee and Twitter.

1:09:58

I haven't nothing. I haven't been on so some media

1:10:00

recently, so unfortunately I will

1:10:02

I will defer to you. Yeah yeah,

1:10:05

um all right. A couple of tweets I've

1:10:08

been enjoying. Uh. Jason

1:10:10

Arducy that can't be his real

1:10:12

name, Split single band or

1:10:14

Ducci uh tweeted

1:10:17

retweeted a headline that we actually didn't talk about.

1:10:19

On today's episode, Giuliani brates

1:10:22

reporters for questioning election claims,

1:10:25

saying I know crimes. I can

1:10:27

smell them, and Jason said

1:10:29

not anymore, uh

1:10:32

because he has COVID. UH.

1:10:35

Garmer four at Fourth

1:10:37

Dog tweeted, I keep thinking

1:10:39

about this and it's a screen cap of a post

1:10:42

on our physics on Reddit that

1:10:45

says what to do if I have theories?

1:10:47

And then in the comments, I contacted

1:10:50

a college and they ignored me. Yo

1:10:55

University. I got theories? U

1:10:57

c l A hold

1:10:59

on he can I got

1:11:02

theories? Man about some physics could up

1:11:05

end everything we know? And then Ben

1:11:07

Acker tweeted, there should

1:11:09

be a part between dreams and wake up where your

1:11:11

brain has to explain what it was going for.

1:11:14

Uh,

1:11:18

notes Sessionion

1:11:21

a little sweaty brain, but can

1:11:24

tell me why were you fighting underwater?

1:11:26

Why were you and your bull fighting underwater?

1:11:28

Yeah? Um? Anyways,

1:11:30

you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore

1:11:33

O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at

1:11:35

Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily

1:11:37

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1:11:39

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1:11:42

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1:11:44

our foot note we link

1:11:46

off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

1:11:48

as well as the song we ride out on

1:11:51

Miles. What are we riding out on today?

1:11:53

Oh? Yeah, it's a bit of scooty, isn't

1:11:55

it on the new track called School, So

1:11:58

yeah, we'll go right out on that one as well in it

1:12:00

School. Yeah, this is a track but from

1:12:03

Scutty s c U t I or Scutty

1:12:06

uh if you're really hitting it with that twang uh.

1:12:08

And the track is called school woup s

1:12:10

k O w u P. But

1:12:13

it's just like it's like very laid

1:12:15

back, uh, like London

1:12:17

rap from this like female

1:12:19

MC, who's just dope. I don't know, I just listening

1:12:21

to the track and I just like, you know how sometimes

1:12:24

like rappers are just like they're

1:12:27

very like minimal with their lyricism.

1:12:29

And I don't even mean that euphemistically, like they're

1:12:32

not doesn't need to be a lot of wordplay, like

1:12:34

it's almost like, Okay, your swag is just kind

1:12:36

of like described ship in a rhyming way.

1:12:38

Uh, this is what I like about Scutty and the five

1:12:41

here on this track. So yes, school

1:12:43

indeed, all right, we're gonna

1:12:46

ride out on that. The Daily Ze, guys, is the production

1:12:48

of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts

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1:12:56

it for this morning. We're back this afternoon

1:12:58

to tell you what's trending and totally other

1:13:01

than fine screw

1:13:04

what. They're really in love Whisky?

1:13:07

What's in love with Lizzie? My

1:13:09

bad and my mother liked Juzy? If

1:13:12

you want to touch clouds? You want to touch you

1:13:14

better come with me every day. Grand

1:13:16

the Stacks, So chilling with snakes

1:13:18

is risky to what

1:13:21

I know? They in love with Steeky, I know what's

1:13:23

go in love with Lizzie? My band

1:13:25

and my mother like Juzy, Like, if

1:13:28

you want to touch clouds, you

1:13:30

better come with me every day, grand

1:13:32

Is Stack, So chilling with snakes is

1:13:34

risky. I can't lie, and I love my green.

1:13:37

You could say that I'm real healthy