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Tello the Internet, and welcome to Season

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one fifty seven, Episode five of Daily

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Night Guys, the production of by Heart

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Radio. This here's a podcast where we take

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a deep dive into America's share consciousness.

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It's Friday, October. My

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name's Jack O'Brien a K. Jocula.

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I'm just kidding, guys. It's it's still me. I'm

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not I'm not the scary uh

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and I'm thrilled to be joined as always

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buy my co host Mr Miles

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with so many stories on t d Z.

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It's kind of hard being Jack and Miles

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of G. But we somehow, some

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way keep saying ship like fun Fox

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News, like every single day, May

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I kick a little something for the Zeke

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Gang t d Z. Shout out to Dan

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too in still Roland Blunts and I'm

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high right now because Jack and Anna ain't home,

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okay. And this motherfucker this X this

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a K keeps going, but I'm just hit the course one more

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time. I am Miles G. Smoke

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in home grown, looking up

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trand in news faded

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with my mind or some hot tags and some hot takes on

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my mind. Shout out to you, exlutioner.

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There we go. That's

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like some Franca type ship's

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ex loctioner x

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c x l U. Okay,

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so it's not like elction No,

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I mean, who knows we we don't know the origin

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of this name, but we'll give him credit. Okay,

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Um, Miles, it's

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election time, it's a COVID

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time. We're trimming down the format, getting right into

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all this ship there is to talk about. Uh,

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today we are talking

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about you know, we're not usually a

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true crime podcast, but there

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is a mystery to solve

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what happened to Tucker Carlson's

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documents. Um, we're gonna talk

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about those explosive documents that went missing,

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as well as just how the geo he just

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can't quit this Hunter Biden

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ship. Uh. We're gonna talk about

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David Purdue uh going

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up against AUSA in a debate. We're

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gonna talk about, um, the Armenia

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Azerbaijan conflict. We're

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gonna talk about Oregon where

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their health official announced COVID

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stats and clown makeup. And we're gonna

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talk about Kim Kardashian's birthday because

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that is important. All

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of that. We might even get to Nickelodeon's presidential

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election for kids. Um,

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but first, we'd like to introduce

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our guest in our third seat.

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Uh. He is a real journalist.

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Uh. He is the host

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and executive producer of one of our newest

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shows, Q Clearance. He is

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the hilarious, the talented, brilliant

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Jake Camra. What's

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up? Yeah, good man? I feel like I should

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start singing with something now, but yeah,

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did well and welcome. What's

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what's good man? How how has your

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dive into the world

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of Q Clearance

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of the Q Conspiracy been treating

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your mental health? First of all, let me ask,

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do you know what it's It's like so

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tiring, like you're

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having to remind myself about all these

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weird terms that they've come up with. Um,

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but you know what they're deliberating thing with it? Once

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I just let go, like how can they believe that?

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How have they tied them too together? When you

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let go and just go okay they do, that's it. Just

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it's much easier, you know, you don't find a reason

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too right, right? Yeah.

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I always feel like when when I'm listening to

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you kind of give people

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insight and like just you know, it's a

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it's a great primer for the

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whole QUE conspiracy. If

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you have a parent perhaps who's

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dabbling and you want to just explain

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it and like get that ship over with once

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and for all. It's great for that, um,

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but I always feel a little bit of embarrassment

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because you are not American

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and this is a uniquely dumbly

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American product of

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our culture. So just like hearing you

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be like he's he's

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motherfucker's we've got him

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now though we have like British qu and

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ons as well, like yeh, just

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like everything else you know you give

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us that's bad. We've exported that and taken

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it as well. So yeah, we've got you

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know, BC from McDonald's and we've

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got q and on now as well. So it is what it

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is. But it's uh,

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it's been definitely and I

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out know to see the way that you know, this

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is accumulated online, but

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yeah, it's it's here to stay for the moment

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anymore. Do you think a lot of people

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who engage in it are using it purely

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to sort of avoid a reality

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in which there is like systemic racism

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and a bungled COVID nineteen response,

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or do you think like or is there split of

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people who are so dedicated to this very narrowly

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that it's like, well, yeah, I know that stuff going

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on, but this que stuff too is really really i'd

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say the majority of people are very like hardcore

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dedicated to it. I mean, you'd have to be. The very

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first prediction completely failed and didn't

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happen, so to follow it from then on,

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like you have to be. But there are certainly, i'd

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say, even within them hardcore elements,

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there's there's a part of it where it's just like I

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think with any conspiracy theories, like life

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is quite boring in a way, you know what I mean.

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Like often often the

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even when it's a corruption case, often the details

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nowhere near as like dramatic

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as it would you know, is it would be if

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it was on a film or whatever. So it's almost

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like they just spice up their life a little bit with

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just bullshit, you know what I mean. I'mfortunately

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and I can kind of spice Yeah,

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yeah, pretty much, you know, I understand

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in a way. But it's crazy. It

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turns the Internet and just you

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know, we have this endless amount of

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information and it uses that to like

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turn reality into the Da

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Vinci Code, which is a thing that

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we know they loved. We know

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Americans love that ship. Yeah,

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alright, I read that whole book, you know, when

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I was like nineteen Yeah,

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cut to the end. It was like, what the fund

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did I do that for? Like you know why too?

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I had the exact same my

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I had relatives who really enjoyed

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it, and I was the only effect

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it had was maybe, I'm like, man, they

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are kind of dumb. I felt

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like everyone's like for me, all my white

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friends dads were reading the division alright,

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and I'm good on this and then all your white

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friends dads are now queue and on subscribers.

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You know, I might have to go

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back and do a little analysis there. There

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something there may be some might be a connection there.

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Um alright, Jake. We like to start

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off by asking our guests, what is something

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from your search history? Uh that's

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revealing about who you are or what you're

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I had a look at actually just before um

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and it was it was pretty weird.

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This is weird. One is a frazzle

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drip. Do you know what that is? No,

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that's the conspiracy theory from Q and

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On's that there's a video of Hilly

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and cutting off a kid's face and wearing it,

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which, yeah,

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fun name for such a horrifying

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thing. Yeah, yeah, so I looked that up.

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It sounds like a weird like drug

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term inside the Sesame Street

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universe something

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like that. Yeah,

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yeah, that

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frazzle drip. Yeah, it was

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frazzle drip. And then I looked again it was suicide

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drones. And then the other was xanax,

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which I wasn't looking for for myself.

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I can't remember why search that. Yeah, that

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seems to be trending lately. Actually,

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do you mention in their else? If

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we get a zan X mention on tomorrow's

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episode, that's going to be the old trifector.

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That means to go out and buy xan x stack. Yeah,

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that means glackshow Smith Klein will be presenting

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sponsor. They switched the samples.

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Sorry. What was the second thing that you searched?

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Suicide drone? So can

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you explain what suicide drones are? Why

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are you were searching that? Yeah, well, it ties

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into the Armenia as a by John conflict.

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There's a lot of them are being you some people call them

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loitering munitions, which I

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don't know why. I think you know, it is, by its

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very nature's suicide drone. So it's like

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essentially a UA V like unmanned

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aircraft, but not like the kind of ones

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that you know, a bomber and Busch

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was sending out over Yemen. I'm like, these are

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small ones, right, with like bombs attached them,

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and they just I mean you see when

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they get the target, they just fly into it, right, like

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imagine there was a little like it's

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like imagine there was like a borrower and he was

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a kamakaze pilot. It's that basically,

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um. And they're very very like

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I mean, it's just it's almost impossible to get away

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from them, you know, like you've seen you see footage of them

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and you just see it flying down and then it goes blank.

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Obviously that's when it's landed. But yeah,

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so I was just kind of researching them and just

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like fun, this is scary, man. Yeah.

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Yeah, And I had imagine those are easier

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to kind of pull off and

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get your hands on, right, because it doesn't

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require a giant military

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grade exactly. Well, China

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and like America and Israel, they're all making

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their own, um. But I

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remember like in Iraq, m Isis

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were making their own, which they were just you know,

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like a d G I

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or d J I whatever it is, like the little joy and you

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get off Amazon, you're put in your pocket. Right. They

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would get them and they would attach like a

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mortar round to it, and they had

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like some mechanical arm so they were

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you know, there was a way they could rely it to let go and they

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would just fly above people and just

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let go, you know, and then the more around would

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drop. And that's what all soldiers were

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like, just terrif right of mom, because you know you

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hit everybody's running

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right right right. Yeah. And I think the

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name is so like the youth

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euphemistic loitering music munitions,

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as if they're like teenagers smoking cigarettes

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store like like loitering

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munitions. Jesus Christ. There's so

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many things like that in conflict. And it's like,

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say what it is, right? You know? Yeah,

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right, I guess that's how we keep

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that military industrial complex humming. It's

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like, no, I don't make suicide drones,

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don't make this barbecue awkward. They

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do have the best barbecues, the

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military industrial Oh yeah, you know, to somebody,

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boy, we got ship. Uh

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what, Jake, is something you think is underrated?

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I was thinking about this. Actually, this is kind of a bit of

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an abstruct but I think it's underrated

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going on websites on social media. Like

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I was talking someone the other day and I was like,

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you know, I mentioning, and they're like, why do you even have a website?

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Like what's the point anymore? I was like what,

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Like, there's so many you know, there's

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so many cool websites still out there, but all

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anybody does is just go on social media. Now,

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Um, so I think that's definitely under rated. Like you

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can find some cool message boards and stuff.

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I I you know, I grew up on the internet, man,

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and I hate the way social media is just ring

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fenced it all into this like argument,

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but yeah, underrated going on other

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websites that aren't social media. Yeah,

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what kind of websites are you trafficking? Like? What tell

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me? What are you heading to to get? After social

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media? Um? Porn

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herb now I'm joking now,

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like all sorts of stuff. Like I was reading a

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message board the other day about Baufing

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radios and ham radio and stuff

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like that, and it's really nerdy, but I was

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just looking at it and it was so cool to just see them in

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their own little community, completely detached

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from anyone else, like there's no one chirping in and

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be like real fucking nerds or like it

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right, vote now or whatever. It was like

12:04

right like it was a Nazi or whatever. It was

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just like these guys having some crazy,

12:08

like very uh noughty conversation

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about how radios and I don't fully understand

12:13

most of what they were saying, but I guess I just

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got lost in it, you know. And I was like, Yeah,

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I do that sometimes with just like plumbing,

12:22

when if there's like a plumbing issue or like some

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issue I have to figure out around the house, or like

12:27

finding a manual

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for something, Like you go into

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a forum that's like just super

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expert and it's like I feel like I'm

12:35

in the eighties all this time. Yeah,

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there's something really nice about

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it. Yeah, Or you have a question

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you're go into like a message board and you're like, you know what I'm

12:45

gonna I'm gonna engage this message

12:47

board and I'm gonna dabble, and like you're super

12:49

nice, like like doing like the most

12:51

friendly man splaining of like an electrical

12:54

issue. You're like, Okay, let me let me

12:56

walk you through this. I'm like, damn this motherfucker

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have fifteen minutes to type this like

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screed, but very informative,

13:03

And it was like very kind because other places

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you feel like read it. You go to other places where there's like communities

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going you ask a dumb question, what's just

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sucking yesterday

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about this shoots

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and want them? Yeah

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thing? Um? On Twitter, I was

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like asking how to get a radio code

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for like the ship car that I had, and

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this guy I'd screenshot it is somewhere.

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This guy would like kill yourself, dickheads,

13:30

Like, okay, thanks,

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fucking crazy man. I was like, Twitter

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is not the place to ask anything, man Na,

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absolutely not. I thought one of the best

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metaphors of the of that

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show, that movie, The Social Dilemma,

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was them talking about um.

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How like imagine if when you went to Wikipedia,

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like the page just

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changed depending on what they thought

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you wanted to read. Like that's

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and that's what your social

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media reality is, and that's

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all anybody uses anymore.

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Like that's that's right. Like

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there are times when I was like I thought I used to be more

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into like street cars,

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and I'm like, that's just because at a moment I

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was scrolling a bunch of it and it kept giving giving

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me like this information. It's weird how I found,

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like after watching The Social Dilemma, trying

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to realize how much it was informing like

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what I was getting interested in, like

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even very passively. Not that it was like I was getting,

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you know, radical lives on the internet, but I was like,

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oh, I'm more into like, you know, Nissan

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Skyline, GTR picks or things

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like that. And then suddenly and now it's like, oh, do

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you like, uh, like fantastic

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throw blankets because I'm I was like cold

14:41

in my house and I throw blanket. But

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I'm like, what happened my Skyline content don't Yeah,

14:46

freaky, it's freaky. Your taste

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in Nissans has always been a little radical.

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Uh well, you know that's the thing, you know because

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in Japan at the Skyline people don't

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know this. They don't have them ships. In the US, they don't know the

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beauty about that car. These

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ones, I love them, you know, like the old Japanese

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hand boxy ones. Yeah.

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Yeah, a

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sports car and I'm like, funk, that's horrible.

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I see one of them old school nineties boxing.

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This sounds love it. Yeah, with

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you on those tail the circular tail lies

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babymobile

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on a budget definitely, what

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is something you think is overrated? Jake Borat

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the second one, then it's

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like, yeah, it's

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very yeah, well not all

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right, it was very on the nose, and

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I just found that, like, you know, I could almost excuse

15:38

the first one when it's like, funk,

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I'm glad I'm not from Kazakhstan because I would feel

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horrible. But then it's like the second one,

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he's kind of trying to be like a little bit

15:47

woken, a little bit clever politically, but

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then also being like completely

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destroying Kazakhstan's image. It's

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like, which part of the joke is that? You

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know? And I love it. I love a distasteful

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joke. But it was like, hang on, can't have it both

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ways, right, You can't suddenly be like, oh and this,

16:03

you know, this liberal guy bringing up this clever satire

16:05

and also fun Kazakhstan from where I've

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never been, you know, because right

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it's poor. And I was a bit like, no, it's for

16:13

me, it's not learning. I thought the daughter was

16:15

great. I would have rather watched just a film

16:17

of Borats Kid basically you know, yeah,

16:19

yeah, but I didn't know. I really

16:22

it felt very on the nose. To me, I laughed once

16:24

and that was when they when he did the Trudeau thing,

16:27

when the black Trudeau, that was

16:29

funny. I was like, Okay, this is funny. But after that,

16:31

I just I don't know, man. I think maybe

16:33

I'm just growing up and just become cynical and prick,

16:36

you know what I mean. But for me, it just didn't land.

16:39

Yeah, I laughed, Like the laughs

16:41

I had weren't the same I used to have where

16:43

I was like, oh wow, this is a really he's

16:45

like examining the really fucked up parts

16:48

of our society, and this way before I was just

16:50

like, oh, he's grossing this crowd out.

16:52

And that's why I was more laughing

16:54

at that more than like this is brilliant because he's

16:56

playing with like their feelings of

16:59

propriety or whatever. I was like, man, this is just a gross

17:01

out joke. That was felt like a good prank.

17:04

But yeah, like there was also I think given

17:06

where we are now, or as more people are, you

17:08

know, more aware of what the country

17:11

is actually like, it's just sort of like I

17:13

don't know, I just didn't need it, you

17:15

know, Like do any bora to tell me like

17:17

not really you know, like maybe people do,

17:19

you know, but for me, I just it wasn't the

17:22

one man when Q research

17:26

right, But I never I realized I never really

17:28

liked Bora anyway. I felt like Ali G

17:30

was a piss tape because you know, Sasha

17:33

Baron Cone is a very very um

17:35

elite rich kid, and he was like

17:37

mugging off like British under class kids.

17:39

And I was like, okay, but I

17:41

love Bruno, like I fucking Bruno

17:45

is so funny, Like I would watch that ten hundred

17:47

times, like I love that, and all that does

17:49

is just exposed people's like homophobia.

17:52

You know, It's not really anyone else

17:54

as far as I'm yeah, yeah, uh

17:57

he yeah, some of some of the Bruno ship

17:59

that he to do with just uh

18:02

not even like exposing homophobia,

18:04

just like the physical comedy of like be

18:07

uh being like okay, now express

18:09

that to our hearing impaired viewers,

18:12

but like like yeah,

18:16

with no words and the guy just like put his

18:18

hands up in the air ship.

18:21

That was maybe the hardest I've ever left and anything.

18:24

All right, let's talk real quick about

18:27

this Georgia debate UM

18:31

Senator David Perdue, which

18:33

is probably not how he talks. But he's

18:37

one of those senators you know, who got

18:40

caught dumping stock back

18:42

in February. But you know,

18:44

I think it's because he just had one of those Wall Street

18:46

precogs in his basement who just knew

18:48

when the market would crash and just told him. And it

18:51

wasn't anything to do with his access to pandemic

18:53

related research or information as a sitting

18:55

United States senator that affected

18:57

his stock dumping. Either way, he

19:00

was investigated for it. It's a big deal. He's

19:02

running against John ass Off and right

19:04

now they are in a deadlocked race,

19:07

which a lot of people, you know, Georgia has become

19:09

more and more purple, veering

19:11

on maybe blue based on like you know,

19:13

the slight advantage Biden has, but that's with polls

19:16

and that's when like things like votes are counted,

19:18

so we don't know what that means quite yet. But

19:20

in this debate John ass

19:22

Off, it's just refreshing again. Like I

19:24

know, there's a lot of things going on, but sometimes you just

19:26

have to take a second to breathe when you just

19:28

have like John Assof, who's just you know, likable

19:31

guy and he's just doing that thing where he's debating

19:34

like, uh, you know a Republican senator

19:36

who is more just like a skin

19:39

sack powered by petro dollars. Uh.

19:41

And then you have John asof who's just gonna be like

19:43

talk very straight up to him.

19:46

Uh. And this he just starts off with this one.

19:48

And this had everybody on Twitter being like, oh

19:50

wow, this is this is a sad,

19:53

sad state of debate. Senator

19:55

per Due would have been able to respond properly

19:58

to the COVID nineteen pandemic if

20:00

you hadn't been fending off multiple federal

20:02

investigations for insider trading. Mm

20:05

hmm. It's not just

20:07

that you're a crook Senator that

20:11

you're attacking the health of

20:13

the people that you represent. You

20:16

did say COVID nineteen was no deadlier

20:18

than the flu. You did

20:20

say there would be no significant uptick in cases.

20:23

All the while you were looking after your own assets

20:25

in your own portfolio, and you did

20:28

vote four times to end

20:30

protections for pre existing conditions. So

20:33

this whole time, David Purdue, he's doing this

20:35

thing where he's trying to be straight

20:37

faced even there's getting fucking straight ethered

20:40

on the debate stage where he's like just

20:44

like he's like, I, um,

20:47

I swear I have something to say. If

20:49

you look for this damn debate

20:52

format, I'd be defending myself.

20:55

Hey, can I go ahead and lie real quick? Okay?

20:57

So what John Aso just said is a fake?

21:00

Okay, that didn't I mean like it's really

21:02

really best. So they go on later on

21:04

he's saying like I I did vote for

21:06

this and then and it just fell very flat.

21:09

Then ass Off goes off

21:11

on Perdue once again, because dude,

21:13

Perdue, like a lot of these Republicans

21:15

now in the Trump are just you know, they've

21:18

they've left the dog whistles at home, and they're just

21:20

straight bull horning their racism or

21:22

anti semitism, xenophobia, whatever,

21:24

phobia. And John Auso also

21:26

has some energy for that, and just again

21:29

dismantles him. So this

21:31

is so beneath the office

21:33

of the U. S. Senator. You've

21:36

continued to demean yourself throughout

21:38

this campaign with your conduct. First

21:41

you were lengthening my nose in

21:43

attack ads to remind

21:45

everybody that I'm Jewish, and

21:48

then when that didn't work, you started

21:50

calling me some kind of Islamic terrorist

21:53

Jesus. And then when that didn't

21:55

work. You started calling me a Chinese

21:57

communist. It's

22:00

ridiculous and you shouldn't do everything

22:02

that you're handlers in Washington tell you too,

22:04

because you'll lose your soul. Along the Waitte,

22:06

Senator vis

22:11

rated in such a calm way,

22:16

and Perdue is just up there again,

22:18

looking straight ahead into camera like,

22:22

uh huh, yeah, I guess I did do all this way.

22:24

Yeah, he was literally he was altering photos

22:26

of us off to make his nose look it was.

22:29

He's doing this like really blatant, just

22:31

nasty shit. But you

22:34

know, we shall see what the

22:36

good people of Georgia decide on election day.

22:38

But it's it's definitely tightening and

22:41

there was really not much you know, Perdue

22:43

could stay to defend against that of just being like, I

22:46

don't know. So Perdue has been

22:48

in the lead and also feels like kind of

22:50

closing the gap. That's sort of that's sort of

22:52

deal. Yeah, like it's gotten tighter

22:54

and tighter and tighter now. And the other race with Kelly

22:56

Leffler, I mean, she's she's the Democrat

22:59

is probably gonna uh is definitely making

23:01

it to the runoff in January.

23:03

But yeah, it doesn't look good for Republican

23:06

senators in the state of Georgia at the moment. All

23:09

right, well, we're gonna take a quick

23:11

break. We will be right back, and

23:23

we're back. And the

23:25

Republican Party, the President's

23:28

committee to re elect himself,

23:31

cannot quit this Hunter Biden

23:33

ship. They're back on it. Rudy

23:35

had that interview with Kennedy

23:38

a couple of days back in which he claimed

23:40

he had explosive diarrhea

23:43

or explosive evidence that

23:45

shows uh Bidens

23:47

are in coots with a Chinese

23:50

spy master. That was even hard

23:52

to watch by Rudy standards, when we saw

23:54

Kennedy look at him and be like, really,

23:56

Rudy, and he really had that energy

23:59

Rudy where he he's like old man at a buffet

24:02

insisting that his seventeen year old coupons

24:04

are still valid, like to the manager,

24:06

like that's what he sounds like when he's trying to spread

24:09

these smears. And I was like, I'm I'm telling you that there's

24:11

an expiration that this doesn't I'm

24:13

sorry, sir. And so you know, Steve

24:16

Bannon also another person who's been

24:18

doing his best to bang the whatever

24:20

conspiracy drums he can on his media appearances,

24:23

podcasts, and now Tucker

24:25

Carlson has I

24:28

don't know, I guess won the award for one of the saddest

24:30

attempts at manufacturing a controversy

24:34

because he claims he

24:36

has these explosive documents

24:38

that will just fucking put an end to

24:41

Hunter Biden. But here's

24:43

the thing, FedEx

24:46

stole them, so um,

24:49

we should be talking about that. It's it's

24:51

such a weird dud of a thing that

24:53

he did last night. I'm just gonna play part

24:55

of his um where

24:57

he's really trying to let people know, like, guys,

25:00

if it weren't for well, I guess

25:03

I can't show tonight. If

25:05

it weren't I can't mention

25:08

that the guy who runs fed X is a huge

25:10

Trump donor. So he also won't

25:12

call out FedEx by name. So he's in a really

25:14

tough spot trying to like smear whatever

25:17

slash not get in the way of FedEx's

25:20

business. But here is Tucker Carlson with is just

25:23

a caper? Are? My executive

25:25

producer Justin Wells and I were in Los Angeles

25:27

preparing to interview Tony Bobo Lensky about

25:29

the Biden's business dealings. In China, Ukraine

25:31

in other countries. So we texted a producer

25:34

in New York and we asked him to send those documents

25:36

to us in l A. And he did that the

25:38

only of this week. He shipped

25:40

those documents overnight to California

25:42

with a large national carrier, brand name company

25:45

that we've used, You've used countless

25:47

time, single problem.

25:49

But the Biden documents never arrived

25:52

in Los Angeles. Tuesday

25:54

morning, we received word from the shipping company there

25:56

are package had been opened and the contents

25:58

were missing. The documents to disappeared,

26:01

now to which credit the company took this very seriously

26:04

and immediately began a certain They traced

26:06

the envelope from the moment our producers

26:08

dropped it off in Manhattan on Monday

26:11

all the way to three am

26:14

yesterday morning. That's when an employee

26:16

at a sorting facility in another state noticed

26:18

that our package was open and

26:21

empty. Okay, so this goes on

26:23

where he starts giving a play by play about

26:25

how like he's like the interviewed

26:28

every single person who may have interacted

26:30

with it, and they whose yeah,

26:33

and then so then he so after

26:35

all that, right, because this was all just a set up presumably

26:39

to be like, yo, Hunter Biden is on some bullshit,

26:41

but it just turns into like a FedEx

26:43

lost our damning evidence. He kind

26:46

of cuts to the chase towards at the end because we're like,

26:48

well, what is this all about, Tucker? And then so now

26:50

he's trying to I guess, build some kind of conspiracy

26:52

from this. Those documents have vanished

26:55

as of tonight. The company has no idea

26:57

and no working theory even about

27:00

what happened to this trophe of materials

27:02

documents that are directly relevant to the presidential

27:05

campaign just six days from now. We

27:07

spoke to executives at that company a few

27:09

hours ago. They seemed baffled

27:12

and deeply bothered by this, And

27:14

so are we, Okay, um

27:16

on Wandcat, They're very they They're quick to

27:18

point out obviously that I don't know

27:20

if you remember Tucker the lawyers for Foxes

27:22

saying Tucker Carlson is not a journalist. Okay,

27:25

he just says some ship. It's like performance

27:27

art, So you can't actually hold

27:29

him accountable by any sort of journalistic standard

27:31

about what he says. So yeah, okay, well

27:34

with that in mind, and I look at this, I'm like, what

27:36

is it doesn't even make sense, right if you had these documents

27:43

and sent a PDF, you wouldn't have It

27:46

only makes sense to people over

27:49

the age of sixty five who are

27:51

like used to a world where

27:54

like everything isn't digitized and

27:56

uh, you know, immediately backed

27:59

up. Especially really something that is like

28:01

election altering, uh

28:04

and important. It only makes sense if

28:06

you're if you like

28:08

your brain still exists in the early

28:10

eighties. Basically, I'm

28:13

surprised me again if it was that

28:15

important, Tucker. It feels like something you would actually

28:17

say to an older Perry, like why would you mail that?

28:20

Just just scan it? Take a photo or something.

28:23

Then the Social Security card. I

28:26

haven't quicker to take a picture of every

28:28

single page. And I haven't paid

28:31

something in the mail in ten

28:33

years without taking a picture of it with my phone,

28:35

Like I always do that because what

28:37

if the mail loses it, you gotta like have some evidence

28:40

that you put it in the mail. They

28:42

didn't think to do that. Um. And

28:45

I I think that raises questions about

28:47

Tucker Carlson's show and

28:49

whether they're in cahoots with the Biden campaign.

28:52

Um. Exactly, because there

28:55

it looks like Tucker Carlson is willfully

28:57

hiding evidence of impropriety

29:00

that are occurring on the Biden side of things. So

29:02

I don't know, maybe Tuer Tucker Carlson's a lib.

29:04

I don't know what's going on, But it's all just part

29:07

of this undying, just dedication

29:09

to this October surprise, where

29:12

like they're so rigidly still like

29:14

locked into the Hillary Clinton mindset

29:16

of like let's get something with emails

29:19

and the FBI and something

29:21

else, and then that's how voters

29:23

will somehow ignore the

29:25

last you know, three and a half four years of this administration

29:28

or something like that. Right, it's

29:31

just not it's not working for them. I

29:33

would love to go out on the town with Hunter Biden,

29:35

Like that's what I go fun

29:38

guy to go out with, you know, yeah, yeah,

29:40

they're going after the wrong person to like

29:42

where most people like Hunter Biden is relatable,

29:45

like most American people, yeah,

29:49

or like has struggled with any kind of substance abuse

29:51

issues and you're like, oh, man, right, like

29:53

that's not the yeah

29:56

exactly like now, like but the way Trump

29:58

is talking about was like this guy's a umhaw, can you

30:00

believe it? Joe Biden said he loved

30:03

his addict son. What the

30:05

funk America? You want this soft ass

30:07

as a president? Like, what the fuck?

30:09

Most people statistically have probably encountered

30:12

something like this in their life more than even

30:14

like half the other bullshit that he's fused.

30:16

But I guess we should keep in mind too that Rudy

30:18

Uh and Steve Bannon also have

30:21

some legal liability, so they would be

30:23

doing their best to try and keep this president in office

30:25

in case they needed some kind of pardon, whether

30:27

that's Rudy's you know, foreign lobbying work

30:30

that has still gone unresolved, or Steve

30:32

Bannon's you know, build the Wall fraud uh

30:34

festival where he's got like what

30:37

million dollars uh out out

30:39

of thin air? So can the president,

30:42

like, assuming there's not a

30:44

massive polling error, I said, I still

30:46

am very worried about Pennsylvania, and Pennsylvania

30:49

is the swing state, and the polling

30:52

is like very tight in Pennsylvania.

30:54

But just in the scenario where

30:57

Trump loses, can

30:59

he act more unaccountable?

31:01

Like can he be

31:04

like, you know, he's acted so far

31:06

like he doesn't know that anybody

31:09

like could be paying attention and

31:12

prosecuting him. But like if

31:14

he's a lame duck president,

31:17

like just dropping fucking

31:19

pardons left him right, like he's

31:21

gonna it's gonna be a site

31:24

to behold if if we

31:26

actually come to that point. Yeah,

31:28

and I'm sure there'll be some executive orders

31:30

and things like that, like spite orders

31:33

on the way out. If again, that assumes

31:36

that we get to Tuesday and

31:38

it's not outright rat fuck fest

31:41

when it comes to counting ballots and things like that, because

31:44

we're already seeing uh, you know, a

31:46

lot of tents, uh you know, ballot

31:49

counters and things like that, hoping that we

31:51

get through this somewhat scott free.

31:53

But yeah, I mean, who knows. I don't think there's any

31:55

limit to what he'll attempt, especially you

31:57

know, we see what he looks like when he has his

31:59

back against the wall, and he he does,

32:02

he will bring everything down with him. Yeah,

32:04

but Pennsylvania is gonna be a complete fucking

32:07

rap funk fest there because they

32:10

can't start counting until

32:12

the day of the election, So it's gonna look like Trump

32:15

wont to blowout when everybody

32:17

goes to bed on election there. We'll see, we'll see, we'll

32:19

see, we'll see. Who knows they come on.

32:21

Now, let's live in the present and then deal

32:24

with that ship when it creeps up on our doorstop.

32:26

Yeah yeah, Uh, let's talk about

32:28

the Armenia Azerbaijan

32:32

conflict. I feel like the

32:34

mission of our show is to look at the Americans

32:36

like geist. But um,

32:38

you know, we also I

32:41

feel like there there is generally

32:43

a like stories like

32:45

this should be part of the Americans

32:47

like gist, right, Like America should

32:50

should care more about conflicts

32:53

that are happening overseas that don't

32:56

directly involve the

32:58

American military. Um.

33:00

But yeah, Miles, you you were pointing

33:02

out that the l A Times has been doing some

33:04

reporting and uh,

33:07

it's kind of intersected with just stuff you're

33:09

seeing with your own friends. Yeah,

33:11

I mean, for

33:15

for in l A. You know, the

33:17

most Armenians living outside of Armenia reside

33:19

in southern California. So I've grown up around

33:21

Armenian people, playing sports with like hockey

33:24

teams, my high school, my personal life.

33:27

Uh my god children there

33:30

you know, like we you you if you're

33:32

in l A, you know about the Armenian experience.

33:35

And about a month ago I

33:37

saw all the flags come out. Normally it's on April,

33:40

marking the genocide. But the

33:42

flags started coming out in force and I did

33:44

not know what's going on. I started seeing this hashtag

33:46

of art socks strong. I'm like, what is

33:49

happening? Then I look around and

33:51

you realize that it's going off

33:53

over this very contested region which

33:55

Armenian as er Baijan had fought over in the late eighties

33:58

early nineties. So from there I was okay,

34:00

So this is a hotly contested region.

34:03

I've known it even like from soccer because on

34:05

Arsenal we had an Armenian player named Henry mccatarian

34:08

who's Armenian. We were playing the

34:10

Europa League final in Azerbaijan,

34:13

and it was very controversial because

34:15

he was saying he did not want to play in Azerbaijan

34:17

because of the Karabak region. Uh

34:20

and so it was like so I was like, damn, this

34:22

is a lot of swirling around here. And

34:24

now in the l A times, because of the communities

34:26

that are in this city, we're starting to see

34:28

a lot of men and women leaving Los

34:31

Angeles to go to Armenia to fight

34:33

um because for a lot of Armenians who

34:35

have been displaced, they look at the reason

34:38

being in Los Angeles or outside of Armenia

34:40

as an extension of unstable

34:42

relations in that region over their lifetimes,

34:44

and going back has been like a no brainer.

34:46

Like there are people who are saying, like, I have to

34:49

go back even though I've only lived I've

34:51

lived in the US most of my life. My connection

34:53

is still to this land across

34:55

the across the world that I still feel

34:58

the need to defend. And the

35:01

more you look into it, it is just a harrowing

35:03

conflict where people the

35:06

loss of life is just

35:08

it's massive, and we're not

35:10

really talking about it in this country because

35:13

a I think for obvious reasons, there's there's

35:15

an election going on, so now Americans,

35:18

or at least the media goes the only thing that exists

35:20

is this horse race. But meanwhile,

35:22

I'm looking at my city and I'm seeing a lot

35:25

of pain. I'm seeing a lot of suffering. I'm seeing

35:27

a lot of hurt people. I

35:29

see our Median Americans getting all of their

35:31

resources together to try and send back

35:34

to our media to help people on the front lines

35:36

of this conflict, and I'm just

35:38

like, I think it's it. We're doing

35:40

ourselves a disservice by ignoring it.

35:42

I'm certainly doing myself a disservice by not

35:45

talking about it because it I see

35:47

it affecting my community in Los Angeles

35:49

and the broader, you know, the globe. So

35:51

I think, Jake, what's great about having you

35:53

here is that you cover global

35:56

conflict um on on your Twitter

35:58

feed. I see you post at about this conflict

36:01

as well, So I figured it would be great to just

36:03

from your perspective, give people a bit

36:05

of background on this and

36:08

just how quickly this is devolving. Yeah,

36:12

man, I mean to give you this is grim,

36:14

but to give you an idea of how quickly this

36:16

is devolving. I mean, it's

36:18

what a month old now, there's been one

36:21

beheading and as as as a by

36:23

Johnny soldier beheaded an Armenian guy

36:25

filmed it, you know, and put it on the social media. And

36:28

then the other day the Azeri

36:30

soldiers um kind

36:32

of captured two two Armenians.

36:34

One was an old man who's in his seventies and the other was like

36:37

lad was like they wrapped

36:39

an our medium flag around them and then just executed

36:41

them, like shot them, filmed it, put that on

36:43

social media, and then there was footage the other day of Armenian

36:47

soldiers have killed and as a Zeri soldier

36:49

and like answered his phone and it was his family

36:52

and they're like, yeah, your son's dead. Like to

36:54

give my point is it's very very

36:56

extreme, very grim, very fast,

36:59

you know what I mean. But it was always going to be this

37:01

way because of the situation. Now

37:03

they're essentially fighting over contested land,

37:06

and annoyingly, you

37:09

know, the UN has said, oh, well that

37:11

land is kind of officially Azerbaijan's.

37:14

So then everyone says, oh, well, the UN said, we can have

37:16

it, and it's like who cares what the UN said? Like the UN

37:18

ignores war crimes all the time,

37:21

you know what I mean, Um, I don't think they're legitimate

37:23

in that sense. And then you've got

37:26

Azerbaijan with loads and loads

37:28

and loads of money, loads of money on military

37:30

spending, Turkeys backing them up, sending

37:33

Syrian mercenaries to fight

37:35

for Azerbaijan. They've they've

37:37

they've already parked two Turkish F sixteen

37:40

planes. They just dropped a load

37:42

of these suicide jones. And

37:44

then if you look at the Armenians like they're spending,

37:46

is is miniscule compared there are very

37:48

poor country in that respect, and

37:51

you've just got like the whole community, like you said, just

37:53

people just go in and being like we have to go and fight.

37:55

I mean the Prime Minister um

37:57

Nicolai Paschina and he said the other day

38:00

we'll fight to the end now, like basically, I think

38:02

he realized no one is coming to help Russia

38:04

a kind of meant to help, I mean it, but they don't really

38:06

care. Um. So I think

38:08

he just realized, like we just you know, will

38:11

fight to the end. Where it's not helpful talk, but

38:14

that's the desperation, right, Like he's told

38:16

everybody, if you can pick up a rifle, pick went

38:18

up and go to the region. So I think it's very

38:20

weird to see that modern day kind of vibe

38:22

that happening in these two countries and then for

38:24

it to be mostly ignored, especially

38:27

when it can you know. I mean, essentially you've got Turkey,

38:30

which are helping Azerbaijan, a NATO

38:32

country which obviously America

38:34

is a part of. Azerbaijan, have literally

38:37

said they want to genocide people like I'm not graduating.

38:40

They've literally said like officially, like yes,

38:42

we will wipe them all out, like we want to get

38:44

rid of every single Armenian on this land. In

38:46

fact, in two thousand and five, I

38:49

think it was, the Foreign Minister was in

38:51

Germany of all places and said, you

38:53

see what you guys the Nazis did to

38:55

the Jews, we want to do that to our Menians.

38:57

Literally said that it's officially, you can look it up,

39:00

so there's no kind of misconception

39:02

about what is going to happen there. And like you

39:04

said earlier, like you know, Genocide Watch, I

39:06

think they put it up to level nine whatever that means. But

39:08

basically saying this is going to be very, very

39:11

bad if the series

39:13

soldiers get to where they're trying to go. Now, I'm not

39:15

I'm not trying to add like, oh, the Armenians

39:17

of these you know, complete angels, they're not. It's

39:19

a war. War was grim and nasty. I

39:21

mean today Imania used cluster

39:23

munitions on people in Azerbaijan, which is

39:25

a big no no, you know, it's a I think it's

39:27

a war crime. Actually technically in the U N's

39:29

eyes, I don't know. So yeah, it's it's grim,

39:31

but warries grim and war is fought by

39:34

you know, brutal violence. But

39:36

essentially Azerbaijan did start this

39:38

offensive a month ago. You know, I've been following

39:40

this very closely for years, not just now.

39:43

Like um my podcast

39:45

Popular Front, we did a we did an episode

39:47

about Nogal Karabac three years ago basically

39:50

saying this is what will happen if the war kicks off. Um,

39:52

and you know we were right. So it's

39:54

very very grim. It's happening very fast, and

39:56

like you said, it's pulling in the Aspira,

39:59

it's pulling in different countries where like you know, Russia

40:01

has a bise in Armenia, but they supply weapons to

40:03

Wazzle by John Turkey Nights or everything.

40:05

So it's a big mess money

40:08

and it's worried it's going to go bad, I think.

40:10

And we're also even starting to see people like

40:12

audition drones uh

40:15

in this battlefield, Like we're starting to see

40:17

this new like what the new era

40:19

of drone warfare is trying to look like with

40:21

like a lot because they're getting drones from

40:24

Russia or Israel or Israel or

40:26

Turkey and things like that, where now

40:28

it's like, well, uh, it's it's also

40:30

grim to see like how how

40:32

things how quickly the fighting is even

40:34

evolving technologically too, from

40:37

like you know, from the nineties we used to think of

40:39

like oh, it's like small munitions fire

40:41

and like mortars, and now we're talking about these

40:44

kinds of drones and yeah, it's

40:46

it's really harrowing. And I think for me, what really

40:48

breaks my heart is, like I think

40:50

in the US, right, we don't we

40:52

we have an attention span for global

40:55

suffering that is like very very narrow

40:57

uh. And but this is like one of those

41:00

moments I think for especially for people in l A.

41:02

If you know, if you have your eyes

41:04

open and know people in the Armenian community,

41:06

like it's really fucked up to even

41:08

think, right, these are people I grew up with who are

41:10

now saying like, you know, my cousins just left

41:13

to go fight, And I'm like, didn't they grow up

41:15

in the valley. They're like yeah, but this

41:17

is the purpose now of our

41:19

lives. Um. And when you hear people

41:21

say that my life's purpose has become

41:24

very clear, suddenly it you

41:26

feel sick, you feel awful, You

41:29

you want to help. You don't know what's

41:31

wrong with your own country because

41:33

there's you know, we saw that there was a ceasefire

41:36

broke brokered, but that was that fell apart

41:38

like within an hour. I feel like there's been three

41:40

three ceasefires, none of them lasted more than

41:43

like ten minutes. It's crazy, right, And

41:45

there's also like, yeah, I feel like as

41:47

everbody has done a great job of you

41:50

know, greenwashing a lot of their

41:52

actions around the world where you can see like some people

41:54

aren't really talking about it with the

41:56

full breadth of facts that they should be. Um,

41:59

and it's yeah, that that's another part that I

42:01

think is is really fucked up is that people

42:03

are also getting very you know, unbalanced

42:07

presentations of what the situation is.

42:10

No, you're right, And and also because as a by,

42:12

John has a lot more money to spend on that, you know, the sock

42:14

puppet accounts all of that influence in the media.

42:16

I mean, Jesus Christ. The other day, the

42:19

official Instagram account of Azerbai,

42:21

John McDonald's was promoting the war literally

42:24

saying like go soldiers Like McDonald's

42:26

like, what the fun um and the problem?

42:28

People say to me, well, you're you're you're biased

42:30

to this, You're biased to Armenia, And I'm saying it's

42:33

not biased to point out one

42:35

side is literally said we want to genocide

42:37

someone. That's literally the truth. If as

42:39

if our Menia there's something bad, we discussed it as well.

42:41

I say, well why do they use you know, cluster munitions.

42:44

Um. But but when one side is literally saying

42:46

we want to genocide you and the

42:49

Armenians have already been through a genocide

42:51

which NATO's second largest country

42:53

or Nate's nator second largest army, Turkey

42:56

deniers ever happened having done it. Like

42:59

you've got to say this is not good, like

43:01

this is going very bad. And you're talking about

43:03

like you know, you're seeing people leave from l A. But

43:06

we saw something in Europe last night, a very different

43:08

reversal role. I guess um,

43:10

the diaspora Turkish and Azeri

43:13

community got together last night in

43:15

Leon and went on a lynch

43:17

mob. There was hundreds of them walking through the streets,

43:20

smashing things, saying come out you Armenian docks

43:22

and they just started attacking like Armenian people

43:25

Like this is crazy, Like this is seriously

43:27

getting out of hand, you know. Um. And I'm

43:29

not saying oh bad good, There is no good and

43:31

bad and words. It's just all bad, you know. But

43:34

at the end of the day you

43:36

have to point out what's going wrong. Yeah, it's

43:38

no, it's no use saying well, what about

43:40

this side, what about that side? When we're talking about

43:42

literal genocide and I don't use

43:44

that word likely people always use that word, and

43:47

often it's it's like, no, that was a mass

43:49

murder or it wasn't even that, you know, but

43:51

this it could be. You

43:54

know, like we said, the government

43:56

in Azerbaijan is like, yeah, yeah,

43:58

we want to do a genocide. Like what can you

44:00

do on

44:02

the the limit of

44:04

the U S news consumers imagination.

44:07

Part of me thinks you need to like

44:10

really put them in the position

44:12

of the people in the war. Like one of the

44:15

best uh ways

44:17

that I've heard somebody

44:19

get people to care about a foreign conflict

44:22

was actually in Robert Evans

44:24

is it could happen here, because he was

44:26

using like foreign conflicts

44:29

as a metaphor for what

44:31

could happen in the United States. And I

44:34

just wonder, like the way death

44:36

of Stalin just made everyone an English

44:39

speaker with like mannerisms and affectations

44:41

that we could all understand culturally.

44:44

I wonder like if that's

44:47

sort of how we need to be thinking

44:49

about getting Americans

44:51

to to care like even though it's it

44:54

sounds incredibly dumb and like

44:56

it's like, well if there, if it's that hard

44:58

to hold their hand, than like you

45:01

know what, maybe just fuck them.

45:03

But at the same time, it is like,

45:06

so I don't know, it's so

45:08

easy to relate to if you just get past

45:11

a certain point. I just think

45:13

there's a short circuit that happens when

45:15

they hear a foreign city name, they

45:17

hear a foreign country name. And

45:20

Americans, especially

45:22

like modern Americans, have lived

45:25

their lives completely dissociated

45:29

from being near any sort

45:31

of war. Like even the words that

45:33

America has fought have been distant,

45:35

uh, and you know, only happening on

45:37

the news. And I think the uh,

45:40

the American brain has just learned

45:42

to just be like, well, that's something that happened somewhere

45:44

else. I can short circuit that turn it

45:46

off. But first of all, it's

45:49

not that far from where

45:51

we are at this moment politically.

45:54

Uh. And second of all, I

45:56

I think that I think there's a

45:58

way to get them to understand

46:00

like this is this would be like

46:03

if you know, US

46:05

States went to war with one another, like just

46:07

like in terms of the size of the state

46:10

in terms of the population, like

46:12

in terms of the interstate rivalries,

46:14

like they're not quite that bad,

46:16

but we we battle them out

46:18

on like stupid like getting drunk

46:21

and watching football games. But like you

46:23

know, I do think that there's like

46:26

corollaries that could help make it

46:28

make sense to people. Yeah,

46:30

I know what you mean. I don't know enough about America really

46:32

to think what the comparison will be, but I know what

46:34

you mean, and I think that's it's not just America

46:37

as well. I think for a lot of people, I

46:39

understand, you know, like people work in

46:42

sixty seven hours a week, like breaking

46:44

their neck, but they haven't got time. You know, you can't

46:46

expect them to always do it. But like

46:48

you said, it's like I and I believe

46:50

I think you were saying as well. I think if there is

46:53

like hell going on in the world and you're in a peaceful

46:55

place relatively, you

46:57

should It's kind of you're obliged to least

47:00

know that it's happening. I think, you know, just

47:02

just to your fellow man, your fellow woman, right,

47:05

it's like you should know that these people are

47:07

living through hell and that there's fighting going on.

47:09

But I found that that's not a good enough way

47:12

to get people to care for my work. Um,

47:14

The way I I've always approached it with my like

47:17

reporting, specifically my documentaries,

47:20

is we spend a lot of time around

47:22

the people. It's not like go to the front line and

47:24

then funk off. It's like, no, we we you know, when

47:26

I was filming with Kurdish militants, we live

47:28

with them, we slept with them, we ate with them. Not like

47:31

that, but you know what I'm saying, we were with them all the

47:33

time. And you

47:35

know when you see the documentaries, it's like, oh,

47:37

right, they're just like me. But they're just

47:39

unfortunately in a place where war

47:41

is on their doors stair out. You know, these are young men and

47:43

women that would rather be playing PlayStation

47:46

or doing sports or going to school, but

47:48

unfortunately they don't have that,

47:50

um, that privilege to do so.

47:52

So you know, people have this idea that like oh, balaklava

47:54

or gun or whatever, and it's like, oh, the big bad

47:57

guy or it's terrorism or whatever. Like often it's

47:59

just people that are like, fuck, I'm gonna lose,

48:01

Like my mom won't have anywhere to live

48:03

if we lose this land, you know, And

48:05

I think when you kind of knock it down

48:07

to that very basic level of like, how

48:09

would you feel if your grandparents,

48:12

you know, it didn't have a house anymore. Like

48:15

it's literally that. I mean in two thousand

48:17

and sixty and there was what they called the four

48:19

Day War, Um, this is not going to a

48:21

Carabat conflict between Armenia and I was by John

48:23

flared up again. Within four days,

48:26

ya Zeri soldiers beheaded a young Armenian

48:28

Yazdi Man, and broke into

48:30

the home of two old people and cut off their ears,

48:33

which was like an old kind of brutal thing that used

48:35

to happen in the nineties, you know. So it's

48:38

that like, imagine that happening to your grandparents,

48:40

right, Imagine that happening to your friend, like

48:42

how he's gone to war and they cut his head off or

48:44

whatever, you know, or or the other day or let's

48:46

even the other side. The other day there was a video of some Armenian

48:49

like gun butting a guy to death that they've

48:51

captured. It's just horrific, you know what I'm saying.

48:53

It's like it's so grizzly,

48:56

and it's it's it's worth knowing,

48:58

Like you know, no normal people are forced

49:00

into these situations. No one wants to be at war.

49:03

They didn't choose it. Well, it is what it

49:05

is. Yeah,

49:08

alright, let's take a quick break and

49:10

we'll be right back. And

49:21

we're back, and there's

49:23

this very surreal video that's

49:26

also kind of making a lot of sense. An

49:28

Oregon health official went

49:30

on an announced COVID stats

49:33

in clown makeup yere

49:36

poache or poach it.

49:38

It just feels again very

49:42

uh. This it's

49:45

you know, Public Access TV. She

49:48

works with the Oregon Health Authority, and she's

49:50

announcing COVID statistics

49:53

in like old timey like a box

49:55

car clown makeup. Um.

49:58

And I'm just for people who we're watching

50:00

the video, but just imagine that the voice

50:03

saying this is dressed in just a

50:05

really cool clown outfit.

50:08

As of today, there have been thirty

50:10

eight thousand six cases

50:12

of COVID nineteen in Oregon, with

50:15

three new cases being reported

50:17

today. Sadly, we

50:19

are also reporting three deaths today,

50:22

bringing the statewide total for COVID

50:24

nineteen related deaths to six eight.

50:27

Yeah, it's so strange.

50:30

Everyone has so many questions about this.

50:32

They're saying why,

50:34

like at a certain point, you'd be like, oh wait, hold on, Claire's

50:37

about to do the announcement in clown

50:39

makeup, okay, tagging an intern

50:41

or fucking anyone else. So

50:43

it doesn't look like sort of how the US

50:45

is responding to this, like in a very like with

50:48

buffoonery and like this disconnection

50:50

to reality. Um and other people

50:52

were like, well, you know, it's like Halloween, so

50:54

I get it. Meane, people are like doing costume stuff.

50:57

Video was recorded on October,

51:01

so this is two weeks out, so I don't

51:04

know what's going on. It's just

51:09

there. Like when they were asked, the officials

51:11

from the department were like, it's just a costume.

51:14

That's that's it. That's all that was, And like

51:17

no other comment. She's wearing costume. Yeah,

51:19

I don't know, it's it's just so on

51:22

brand for for this year, that visual. But yeah,

51:24

I just thought I had to bring that up because everything

51:26

is so surreal. I thought this story

51:29

was like about a piece of performance art where

51:31

she was like being like

51:34

kind of just this is

51:36

this is what our government

51:38

is is like a complete clown show. Uh.

51:41

And but the fact that she's just been

51:43

like yeah, no, I don't know. I

51:46

just thought it was some wild ship

51:49

in this video clown

51:51

who Yeah, but

51:54

what's the problem. Yeah,

51:56

which I said it this is a costume or did you

51:58

hear what I said about COVID and actions.

52:01

It's such a yeah. And even

52:03

then, like apparently in the full clip, Claire

52:05

never talks about the costume, like never's

52:07

like, lease, pardon you know what I mean, Like you'd feel

52:10

like if you were aware, you'd be like, I'm

52:12

terribly sorry about my appearance for this. Um

52:15

so I just or you would just be like, Hi,

52:17

camera person, just go to the person who's

52:20

doing the sign language interpretation. Just

52:22

focus on that. Maybe just give me a still

52:25

photo. Uh, you don't have to show me

52:28

animated. But it's

52:30

so weird, is what it is.

52:32

I mean, this is legitimately a

52:35

bit that Will Ferrell did when

52:37

we were announcing the like joint

52:39

venture podcast network we

52:42

launched with him, right yeah,

52:44

at the at the upfronts where

52:46

like you announced like what your upcoming

52:49

slate is to advertisers,

52:51

our CEO was like, and here's Will Ferrell

52:54

to talk about to announce something, and

52:56

he just got on and did like a very straightforward,

52:59

like an announcement of why

53:01

he was excited about the podcast space, but

53:03

he had like very strange clown

53:06

makeup on and never addressed

53:08

it at all. And it was like very funny

53:10

but amazing, an amazing

53:12

bit that feels. Yeah,

53:15

it feels contextually a little bit like a

53:17

little bit of a stranger um use

53:20

of of that bit. Um. Maybe

53:22

she's just trying to bring attention to her state

53:25

or something, right that could that that

53:27

would make sense. Yeah,

53:30

unless she did it that

53:32

ship. You know, she

53:36

she's too busy to travel in the

53:38

rails with a bendle stick to Uh yeah,

53:42

um yeah. Maybe that was like she

53:45

was making a big political statement. But then her

53:48

higher ups were just like shut

53:50

up, and so she hasn't been able to explain

53:52

it. I don't know. Alright,

53:55

let's talk Kim Kardashian.

53:58

This is just yet another kind

54:00

of glimpse into the

54:02

world of celebrity. It's almost like a portal

54:05

from three years ago. These

54:09

famous, very wealthy people

54:11

are still living in the

54:14

world that built them. Uh,

54:16

you know, she got

54:19

famous, she got extremely wealthy

54:22

doing ship like this, like living a

54:24

wild luxurious lifestyle,

54:27

giving us tours of her like twenty

54:30

million dollar home. Uh

54:32

that like has sinks

54:35

without sick basins.

54:37

Uh. And and before

54:41

like just a couple of years ago, that's what we

54:43

pointed to. We were like, ah, that place looks weird

54:46

rather than like, you know, just how

54:49

brutally unequal our

54:52

culture is, our society is. But this, this

54:55

was especially tasteless. So Kim,

54:58

for her fort took I

55:01

don't know, like a hundred of her closest

55:03

friends, uh to a Tahitian

55:05

island, probably spent millions of dollars

55:08

doing this it looked like millions of dollars, and

55:10

then posted about

55:12

it in detail on social media,

55:15

just loads of pictures of

55:18

everybody partying together with

55:20

no masks on except for the waiters

55:22

who had to wear masks because they were risking their

55:24

lives to uh you

55:27

know, wait weight on these people.

55:29

But yeah, I don't know, like she I

55:33

understand the tone deafness because

55:35

she built a career doing ship like this. Yeah,

55:38

but it's weird. They they don't have they

55:41

haven't gotten the note yet, which

55:43

is so odd. They still think it's twenty

55:45

nineteen, and like the celebrity

55:47

worship ship is still you

55:50

know, at the like firing at the same level

55:52

used to. I think the imagined video was

55:54

the first opportunity for a lot of celebrities

55:56

to be like, Okay, we need to shut the funk up, hide

55:59

and not show reveal any

56:01

dimension of how our lives are as

56:03

like the hyper privileged, you know,

56:06

luxury life leading people we are. Yet

56:09

there's still like this thing where it's

56:11

still like there's still the flex, Like

56:13

the celebrities still need to do the flex,

56:16

and people don't. They're not reading the room. The flex

56:18

is dead, the flex is vulgar,

56:21

and the flex has now become violent.

56:24

Um And by being like I don't

56:26

know forty and feeling so humbled,

56:28

there's like I think there's a there's a moment

56:30

in her like tweet thread where she's like, I realize

56:33

how most people in times like this aren't

56:35

able to do that. So I'm super humbled by

56:38

my privilege. As if that's

56:40

like humbled by my I'm humbly

56:42

reminded of how privileged my life

56:44

is. Leave

56:46

it alone, you know where she is? I um, I

56:49

read today so where they had the party

56:52

um per capita it is the

56:55

third worst place for having COVID.

56:57

So it's like ship, Yes, God

57:00

knows how many people maybe have got infected

57:03

and spread it, so who knows who after the back of

57:05

it, you know, it's just irresponsible

57:08

as well, you know, even medically. I think absolutely

57:12

there's this I don't know when

57:14

they're gonna realize that,

57:18

like the the the balance

57:20

has completely shifted in terms of like the aesthetic

57:22

that people find appealing and those

57:25

they find just angering, you

57:27

know, and when you have when we're living in a country,

57:29

especially the United States, where the federal government

57:31

has completely turned its back

57:34

on working people and those who are unemployed,

57:37

or even only certain municipalities

57:39

are like, okay, maybe we shouldn't evict people

57:41

in a time where many people aren't able to work

57:44

that too, then flaunt this like private

57:46

jet bullshit where like everyone's being

57:49

like essentially just distills

57:51

too. We're so rich, we can fucking

57:54

erase everything that's happening in

57:56

your poor people life existence and keep

57:58

our ship going because the guess what, the show

58:00

don't stop for a hop. We keep it going.

58:02

And like these people were will wear masks

58:05

because they're working people, and god forbid,

58:07

we spend all this money to act like nothing's

58:09

going on that we get sick. It's just really

58:12

I feel like the smart if you're smart, if

58:14

you're a celebrity. Because I know so many A list celebrities

58:17

listen to this podcast. Uh, just fucking

58:19

hide because people are People's

58:21

attitudes are changing very rapidly to

58:24

the like this have and have not culture

58:27

we have and most people are not being like it would

58:29

be sick if I had that. Most people are like, I'm

58:31

gonna sucking eat you. Yeah,

58:33

yeah, yeah, you know what I noticed

58:36

as well. I think, like, I think you've really hit

58:38

the nail on the head there um. But but why,

58:40

I know, especially amongst friends, it went from realizing

58:43

have and have not is actually us versus

58:46

them, you know what I mean? And I don't think that's necessarily

58:48

a bad thing because if you can use

58:50

it to be like, let's have a more just society,

58:52

let's educate people on there is another way,

58:55

or we can be fairer. We don't have to be like

58:57

hyper capitalist celebrity lunatics. Like I

59:00

think this might be a good thing where people stopped

59:02

trying to obtain that wealth and celebrity.

59:05

Maybe not, but I think there's certainly

59:07

people have shot me, have been like fuck

59:10

like Kadashi, you know, funk. Whoever, Whereas

59:12

before I wouldn't have thought they had said that so,

59:15

but no, I agree with you completely. Man. It's it's

59:17

such a fucking deaf moment, right

59:19

when dude, when did she become famous?

59:22

Like when did their family? It was like during the two thousand

59:24

tents, Like that's when, because

59:26

I mean the sex tape. Well, first she was Harris

59:29

Hilton's she was Paris Hilton's bff,

59:31

and she was getting in the background with a lot of club

59:34

shots when Paris was going to the party and they

59:36

were like, who is Paris's new friend with the dark

59:38

hair, uh, And they're like, that's

59:40

Robert Kardashian o J's lawyer's

59:43

daughter Kim. And then the sex

59:45

tape got her like her own lane

59:48

and then from there, you know, one thing just led

59:50

to another. Boom boom boom, because for a while, I

59:52

think it was we were living at a point

59:54

like in American culture, where it was

59:56

this easy to just dismiss all the ills

59:59

of the of the country, to just be like, nah,

1:00:02

yeah, maybe I were I'm being underpaid

1:00:04

and overworked, but I go on, I pop

1:00:06

on E and I escape to my world where

1:00:08

oh my god, Scott Disick is a mess

1:00:11

and Mason is so cute. And now

1:00:13

when as things just become more vivid

1:00:15

about like how what the actual the

1:00:18

sickness that exists in our country, especially

1:00:20

like the worship of material goods and items

1:00:23

that you look at this and you're like, this offers me

1:00:25

no comfort anymore. This actually is

1:00:27

angering and to your point, Jake, like

1:00:30

yeah, like it's hopefully will erode

1:00:32

this like false class solidarity a lot of people

1:00:34

have with celebrities by being like, well leave her alone.

1:00:37

Where now people are like the replies

1:00:39

to Kim Kardashian's that those

1:00:42

tweets, I think say at all where people

1:00:44

are like, hey, asshole, Like I haven't seen my

1:00:46

family in months because they're elderly,

1:00:48

and I also can't afford to go there because I have

1:00:50

no job. But yeah, do you on your fucking island?

1:00:52

Um? Yeah. I feel

1:00:55

like when we look back years

1:00:57

from now, like this period from

1:01:00

like when Paris Hilton became

1:01:02

famous too, will

1:01:05

be the period that like looks

1:01:07

very strange, you know, like that that

1:01:10

doesn't make because like in the nineties and

1:01:12

eighties, like I always talk about

1:01:14

this like concept of like selling out being

1:01:17

a thing that people thought

1:01:19

was a bad thing, and then like it just went

1:01:21

away, like people just you

1:01:23

know, like Kurt Cobain was

1:01:25

like mortified that he was wealthy.

1:01:29

Uh, and like I think,

1:01:31

yeah, I just think there's a returning awareness,

1:01:34

like we're waking up from this dream

1:01:37

where it was just pure aspirational

1:01:40

bullshit and now it's now

1:01:43

it's back to reality. Like where

1:01:46

in the early nineties people were like, yeah,

1:01:48

you can sell out. You selling out

1:01:51

as a bad thing, Like that's that's

1:01:53

not cool. Well, yeah, I think we've just we've

1:01:56

reached the end of the drug trip of like

1:01:58

worshiping the stat as symbols,

1:02:00

you know, because we completely

1:02:03

burnt it out to the point where now it's like you see it,

1:02:05

that's all vaporware, Like it's not really, it's

1:02:07

just it was some ship too comfort

1:02:10

you about maybe what your own future

1:02:12

is. And I think it's more people get with their reality, Like, man,

1:02:14

I'm not gonna be some fucking influencer driving

1:02:16

around nine Lamborghini's Like that's fucking

1:02:18

stupid. Like I would just like to own a

1:02:20

little piece of land and have my kids get

1:02:23

educated and not have to worry about like my healthcare

1:02:26

because right now I live in a country where I could

1:02:28

be killed by the police, have no health insurance

1:02:30

and people are dragged out of their homes because they're from

1:02:32

some other place. Like that's that's

1:02:34

what's becoming very real to a lot of people. So yeah,

1:02:37

I mean, you know, down with the Kardashian

1:02:39

bullshit, you know, and we'll see, we'll see

1:02:41

what replaces it. Something

1:02:44

else that I just want to mention quickly is

1:02:46

I've noticed in my country, in Britain at least,

1:02:48

like class is becoming more recognized

1:02:50

again. You know that when I was a kid, class was a very

1:02:52

big issue. It wasn't about like you know, it's like if

1:02:55

you're a class, whatever you ruled together now

1:02:58

a good thing, the kind of you know, like

1:03:00

the kind of woke celebrity stuff. I

1:03:02

know a lot of people are like fuck them, like

1:03:05

you know what I mean, Like you can't say that because

1:03:07

you're so rich. You don't know what it's like with me, you

1:03:09

know, Tim and you seth from whoever else. You

1:03:11

know. So in my country I've noticed, which

1:03:14

I think is a good thing, you know, like you know, it's solid diarity

1:03:16

with each other, like, hey, we're both fucking poor, we

1:03:18

don't need to hate each other. It's them who

1:03:20

are lying, you know, And I think I think that can

1:03:22

only be a good thing personally so long as it's

1:03:25

you know, constructive, right,

1:03:27

And I think, yeah, because for for other people

1:03:29

who are like, man, you know why, you know why our

1:03:31

situation is so bad and whatever X American

1:03:34

City, and they go like because the immigrants or

1:03:36

whatever. I'm sure at a certain point they look around

1:03:38

and like, well, where are the immigrants that have all that money

1:03:40

they took from you? Because I'm sure comparatively

1:03:43

you're doing much better than them, so please

1:03:45

explain where that money went. I will

1:03:47

actually, I will challenge you to a thought

1:03:49

experiment and look at how your bosses

1:03:51

lived and look at how the people above them live,

1:03:54

because they might that

1:03:56

might be where your money is going. Not these other

1:03:58

downtriden people that you're bosses

1:04:00

have very uh skillfully convinced

1:04:03

you is the root cause of your lack

1:04:05

of opportunity, when the whole time it

1:04:07

was them. And I think maybe that's what people are trying

1:04:09

to see with the Kardashians, it was like it was them, that's

1:04:12

yeah, this yeah,

1:04:14

And I mean this has been the period of

1:04:17

you know, in addition to buying into that world

1:04:19

of celebrity and like, yeah,

1:04:21

we us on the Wolke celebrities are on the same

1:04:23

side. Fox News has like

1:04:26

given the alternate like you're saying, Miles,

1:04:28

the immigrants took our jobs

1:04:30

explanation, and hopefully

1:04:32

we're coming to an end of that where like people

1:04:35

aren't coming up with these like bullshit

1:04:37

polarization ideas

1:04:40

where we're just buying into uh

1:04:43

well, I'm I'm for the celebrities

1:04:45

and your first Sean Hannity and it's like,

1:04:47

you know, those they're the same side, and then

1:04:49

they can go themselves. Yeah.

1:04:52

Um, Jake, it's been great having you, man

1:04:55

um. Where

1:04:57

can people find you? Follow you here?

1:05:00

You all that good stuff? Um.

1:05:02

Normally on Twitter, Jake underscore

1:05:05

hand rahand that's my sur names annoying.

1:05:07

It's h A n A h

1:05:10

A n um. On my website

1:05:12

Jake Hanrahan dot com. You'll see all my work though.

1:05:15

Nice And is there a Twitter some

1:05:17

of the work of social media you've been enjoying?

1:05:20

Yeah? No, Yeah, today I saw my friend

1:05:22

posted, you know, Kowloon the World City.

1:05:24

Um. I think it was in Hong Kong, like years ago. They just

1:05:27

kept building up and up and up, and it was like a slum

1:05:29

but it was like up, you know, and it was so cool.

1:05:31

And then someone found some red photos and was just

1:05:33

like tweeting a thread of that out today and

1:05:36

it's just amazing. It's not down now, but

1:05:38

yeah, really cool man. Nice Miles.

1:05:41

Where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?

1:05:45

Uh? You can find me on Twitter

1:05:47

and Instagram at Miles of Gray

1:05:49

and also my other podcast for

1:05:52

twenty Day Fiance, where I escape reality

1:05:54

by diving into reality television as

1:05:57

as one is wanting to do. Okay, now,

1:05:59

let's a tweet that I like. Um,

1:06:02

let's go with this one from past

1:06:05

guest Tamara Yahia at

1:06:07

Dances with Tamas. She tweets, my sister

1:06:09

is watching the news room and thinks Jeff Daniels

1:06:11

is Dave coolier. She said,

1:06:15

good for him. It's nice to see him doing

1:06:17

a dramatic role. No one is correcting

1:06:19

her. Alright.

1:06:24

Some tweets I've been enjoying, Uh

1:06:29

uh, there's there's one that's

1:06:31

a visual thing that people can just find on

1:06:33

my feet because I retweeted it from Rob Delaney.

1:06:35

It's just a video where he

1:06:37

said this is insanely impressive. It's

1:06:40

a physical stunt that is

1:06:42

very impressive. People should should check

1:06:44

it out. Paula Vignalen, former

1:06:47

guest, tweeted, legends were just the loudest men

1:06:49

at the time, and then uh

1:06:51

Patrick Monahan tweeted, they call me Mr

1:06:54

says thanks multiple times in the

1:06:56

same email before signing off. Thanks

1:07:00

identified that before

1:07:03

you send your like, funk, I gotta get rid of a couple of these

1:07:05

things. If I

1:07:07

do have time to reread

1:07:09

an email before I send it. Yeah, it's usually

1:07:12

to make it less profusely,

1:07:15

like yes, sir, there you go, sir, thank you, thank

1:07:17

you, thank you. We appreciate

1:07:19

it, thank you for reading this. Uh than

1:07:23

the first word is thanks and the last word is

1:07:25

thanks, thanks and thanks

1:07:27

for that. Thanks again, Jack. Thanks

1:07:32

like escalating, yeah,

1:07:35

doubles

1:07:39

Like there's

1:07:42

times when I'm conflicted about using an exclamation

1:07:44

point. I'm like, do I really mean to be this excited

1:07:46

about it or this? Should I be real with them and use

1:07:49

a period so they know where I'm at emotionally

1:07:51

with this? Thanks? Thanks?

1:07:55

Yeah, totally different.

1:07:57

Yeah, but people do need to check out that rob

1:07:59

delay, you think, because it's the most laughing

1:08:02

uh at a tweet probably in

1:08:04

months. Uh. You can find me

1:08:06

on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

1:08:09

You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeite

1:08:11

Guys. Were at the Daily Zite Guys on Instagram.

1:08:14

We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily

1:08:16

zite Guys dot com where we post our episodes

1:08:18

and our footnotes where

1:08:21

we link off to the information that we talked about in today's

1:08:23

episode, as well as the song we ride

1:08:25

out on miles What are we riding out on today?

1:08:28

We're gonna go out on a track by Slow

1:08:30

Tie featuring James Blake and Mount can

1:08:32

Be. He's

1:08:35

from where I'm from, Slow Ties from where I'm from.

1:08:37

Oh yeah, I mean, look, I love UK music,

1:08:39

I love all music. So you know, I've been on a I've

1:08:41

been on a sort of drill

1:08:44

kick recently as well. But yeah,

1:08:46

this is this tracks like it's got it all. You've got James

1:08:48

Blake, You've got Slow Tie, you got that Mount can Be feeling.

1:08:50

So this is called feel Away because I think, yeah,

1:08:53

we're just trying to feel away whatever we're feeling, so good

1:08:55

title for in a good time away Feeling

1:08:59

all Right the Day Leeza Guys that are production

1:09:01

of by Heart Radio. For more podcasts for my Heart

1:09:03

Radio visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple

1:09:06

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1:09:08

shows. That it's gonna do it for this morning.

1:09:10

We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending,

1:09:13

and we will talk to y'all. Then

1:09:16

bye bye. Setting

1:09:20

meat off that I used to be but

1:09:22

you can need, hopefully you couldn't be. It's

1:09:26

not you, so like this is me. It's

1:09:29

not used, So I guess it's me sutting

1:09:32

me off from what I used to be, but

1:09:34

you can need, you couldn't be. It's

1:09:38

not used, so like this is me this

1:09:41

time, this

1:09:44

time, most, this

1:09:47

time, this

1:09:50

time, time,

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this time,