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Oh, hello the Internet. Have you caught

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me off guard? There? I was just in my car looking

0:04

at some old sports illustrated for kids. Uh,

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mostly because they were treatable cards

0:09

in there that were perforated you could take out. It's

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a long story short, I wanted one that

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had Ricky Henderson in it. Anyway, I'm

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but thank you so much, t A. But

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let's get into it. It's season one, episode

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one of The Daily Ze Guy used the

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production of My Heart Radio. It's the podcast

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where we take a deep dive into

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America's shared consciousness because

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sometimes don't even have to go that deep to get

0:32

completely freaked out. But we do say this off

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the rip officially, buck the Cooke Brothers

0:36

as in Coke Industries, Fuck Fox News, Rush

0:38

Limbob and Shapiro, Duncker, Carlson, fucking JK

0:41

Rowling, and fuck fond It too. That's

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the new thing we're saying. Officially, I officially

0:46

say not fuck fonding. Did you hear

0:48

what happened to the Cake Boss? Miles? Let's

0:51

talk about that. What happened?

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This is a really depressing way to start the episode The

0:55

Cake Boss. And if you if this is gross

0:57

to you, fast forward fifteen seconds. The

1:00

cake Boss's hand got mangled

1:02

because his hand got caught in his

1:04

own bowling alley, like

1:07

about the bowling bald Dincer. His

1:10

hand got all sucked up into it.

1:13

We gotta get fonding to break this week. I'm

1:15

just saying, fonding is in is

1:17

having a hard week. Now. I want

1:19

to say, while that is a tragedy

1:22

that has nothing to do with fonding, and

1:24

I'm just and I hate to do that right there and have such

1:26

a strong thing of fonding. Third

1:28

Cake, he's sick, I

1:30

guess. But then in a way, I'm like, you're kind of like ripping

1:33

off a whole fairly, Brothers, I p thing

1:35

there with the hand in the bowling alley, things

1:37

like Kingpin. Anyway, I

1:39

digress because today is

1:41

Monday, October five, and

1:44

I am Miles great a k A.

1:47

It's always a round me.

1:49

All these side said

1:52

wear a mask, butot, I don't really

1:55

fuck with side and

1:57

so I'll let it happen and

2:00

let it happened. I'm gonna

2:02

get COVID, let it happen,

2:06

Let it happen. Okay,

2:08

shout out to my own brain there that coming up

2:10

with that Tam and Paula inspired aka

2:12

because I'm you know, giving myself a little bit of social

2:14

media break for my own benefit. But

2:17

I am thrilled to be joined in

2:19

the guest spot, in the co host spot,

2:22

in the co pilot's seat, and really, let's

2:24

be real, the pilots seat, and I'm just I'm at the

2:26

levers and stuff, but she's doing all the work. Please

2:28

welcome buddy Flastra's hand

2:32

exacting, bring it, bring the plane

2:34

on down, Captain Jamie Loftus,

2:36

all right, I don't know. I let me figure

2:39

out if I can sing uh this

2:41

song. I'm not totally sure how it goes. Um

2:44

fucking ms

2:48

goddance pork in my head

2:51

with zambon? Is

2:54

that close? Cranberry

2:56

Zombie? Know that was? That's

3:00

that's from Christi Yamaguchi. Main always

3:02

love an opportunity to turn

3:04

the knife on for key?

3:07

Was that was that? Within moments of your tweet

3:09

begging that gang for a K, there

3:11

was just a response like that, Yeah, there.

3:14

I I paraphrase it a little bit because I'm not

3:16

sure how the whole song goes, but

3:19

really, and you asked the Zyke Gang

3:21

for an AK, they deliver every single

3:23

goddamn time. Now I have thirty backups

3:26

for the for the next time ship. Well,

3:28

shout out to Zekegang. Just put it in the air and

3:30

they will respond. Okay, Well today,

3:33

Jamie, we and everybody, Well, we've got

3:35

something nice. We've got some special here. We gotta

3:38

not just a not a third seed, We got

3:40

a third and a fourth seed. And

3:42

these aren't just regular old guests.

3:44

These are brilliantly talented people.

3:47

One person you might be familiar with, another

3:49

person you might also be familiar with. Maybe

3:51

you're familiar at the same time with their work.

3:53

If not, this is the introduction for you.

3:56

But I am honored to welcome

3:58

to this show our guests today,

4:00

Carolina Barlow and Devin Leary. Welcome,

4:04

Thank you. It's

4:07

so nice to have a nice fourhand

4:09

er episode. Feels like a proper hangout now

4:12

rather than three people screaming. This is the

4:14

most people I've hung out with. Yeah,

4:16

what's new? What's new? As we ask here, we don't ever

4:18

ask how you doing because we already get it. We already

4:20

know about the dread. But what's new

4:22

with the Carolina and Devon, Let's

4:25

see, we have

4:27

been both just reeling

4:30

over the news the past few days,

4:32

which is an evergreen comment, but

4:36

today specifically, and

4:39

I will say, we rarely get

4:41

good news the past four years,

4:43

but today feels like a good news day

4:46

possibly who knows where, who knows what direction

4:48

it could go, and we'll get into that. I think I know what

4:50

you're talking about. We got theories. Still today

4:53

feels like a joy that we deserve,

4:55

and I feel that we

4:57

should just exalt

5:00

in it, as the Christians would say,

5:03

and even if it doesn't

5:05

turn into anything, we deserve this

5:08

this moment. Let us dance tonight.

5:11

Let us dance tonight. And

5:13

just like it was

5:15

like a nice It was the nicest

5:18

moment I've felt since Bernie one,

5:20

California. I think that was the other night

5:23

this year where I was like, this is

5:25

nice. I feel good things. My

5:27

fall is ship, but I feel good right

5:29

now and that's all that matters.

5:32

We'll get into that, because that's definitely that's

5:34

that's been on everybody's brain about

5:37

the I think I think we're all talking about.

5:41

Are we all talking about the same thing? Minecraft

5:43

Steve, Yes,

5:46

Yeah, okay, so I'm glad, but

5:48

yeah, and it's been a moment a lot of people have

5:50

been asking for that character to enter smashed. But

5:52

also I think that could also coincide with

5:54

the president's diagnosis or test

5:56

results, and we are definitely

5:58

going to get into that up. We're

6:01

gonna we're gonna reconcile all of this in

6:04

the podcast, and that is our promise

6:06

to the listener. So before we

6:08

do that, we gotta we gotta just tick down down

6:11

the list really quick, and we're gonna get to know Caroline and

6:13

Devon much better. But we're gonna talk

6:15

about Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, just showing

6:17

everybody he's down to rat fuck

6:20

the election, just letting it be fucking

6:22

known he's here for full rat fuccory.

6:25

Uh. Then we'll get into the other news.

6:27

Trump has COVID. No he doesn't,

6:30

Yes he does. I thought you don't believe in science,

6:32

Well now I do because it helps my argument.

6:34

I don't know what's going on. Nervous that this

6:36

episode is like that we recorded a

6:38

little early because it's like god

6:41

damn, by the time Monday morning, who knows,

6:43

who knows? And we'll get

6:45

into all our theories. I think that would be our moment

6:47

to all get our theories out and figure out what we see

6:50

is gonna happen, maybe even take some bets.

6:52

Uh. Then we will go over the things we

6:54

do know. Okay, we don't know what's going on with him,

6:56

but we do know some things about who had it, who's

6:59

seen, what, what they decid to do, when, where

7:01

and how in the room where it happened. Also,

7:03

the Trump is the Trump campaign or administration

7:06

is just using food, I think to bribe people

7:08

into voting for him. But it's it's a very

7:11

heavy handed approach. And then we'll get

7:13

into some fun stuff or just an

7:15

interesting discussion where a lot of people have been talking

7:17

about have introverts or extroverts

7:19

been thriving with like lockdowns

7:22

and social distancing? And there's like a

7:25

loose study I won't say like a full blown

7:27

like this is a really air tight thing, but it

7:29

raised some questions that I

7:31

think is worth talking because for me is

7:34

like I I don't I feel like mostly

7:36

an introvert but with

7:39

extrovert tendencies. We'll get into that. And also

7:41

somebody punched Rick Moranus. You

7:43

know what the fun is going on? Absolutely

7:45

terrible news. You know that's

7:48

you get your good with your bad, you know what I mean? Maybe

7:51

some things are happening good sometimes the bad

7:53

things come up to This is an origin story.

7:55

Someone's going to go after these

7:58

assailants. Just one

8:01

it'll be It'll be John Wick. There's

8:03

going to be someone out there who's not okay with

8:05

this and Will Yeah, I

8:07

had definitely thought about the taking speech.

8:12

Or it's going to turn him into the joker

8:14

too. And Rick Moranis is going to become

8:16

an in cell and become enraged at the

8:18

world that causes injustice to him. Potentially

8:21

sure, or it's sort of tangentially

8:23

connected to that. The people who avenge Rick

8:25

Moranis are all those toxic Ghostbusters

8:27

fans that hated the Paul feed version.

8:30

M hmmm, well they're like,

8:32

we'll get him Rick, We'll protect

8:34

you. Bro. Sounds

8:37

a lot more likely those are real introverts.

8:39

Those are the biggest. Before

8:43

we chat all that nonsense

8:45

up, Let's get into the real nitty gritty

8:48

Carolina and devon. What is something from your

8:50

search histories that is revealing about

8:52

who you are? I think this

8:54

was my answer last time I was on the pod.

8:56

I really do, and it's because it's my daily

8:59

search, and that is there's

9:01

two things I looked at Amy McGrath

9:03

recently because I saw

9:06

a cartoon campaign

9:09

ad that I don't

9:11

know if this is real or not, that she potentially released

9:13

that was a little bit pro Trump. It

9:15

was anti Mitch McConnell, and it was pro

9:17

Trump at the same time. I don't

9:20

know if this is real or not, but it was of a

9:22

cartoon of Trump a k draining

9:24

the swamp, but Mitch McConnell

9:27

was a turtle. So I was

9:29

googling that to try to see the validity of it,

9:31

which is very depressing. And

9:34

I was also, uh,

9:37

I google Ivanka Trump, if

9:39

not every day, every other day, because

9:41

I just am weirdly

9:44

invested in taking her down and

9:46

I want to see if she's done anything embarrassing,

9:48

if she's gotten closer to becoming to

9:50

being arrested, if Jared's become closer.

9:53

But for whatever reason, I focused

9:55

all of my anger towards her as

9:58

America's as the of

10:01

gops greatest enabler. Yeah,

10:04

I mean, but she does it so well with her fine

10:06

handbags, veneers, well,

10:09

everyone that whole family, I mean, the

10:14

Trumps, everyone,

10:16

I think absolutely everyone in the family

10:18

except maybe I. First I know is I

10:21

can Tiffany definitely I there's

10:24

one of the brothers that might not have them,

10:26

but I always refused them. They look the same.

10:28

I think that, yeah, the one of

10:30

the brothers does not have veneers, and I'm sure

10:33

that it's brought up the one

10:35

that is who identified as

10:37

part of the LGBTQ community. They

10:41

have just like my

10:44

favorite kind of veneers, like the worst. Joe

10:46

Biden has these vineers where, first of all,

10:48

I don't know how Joe Biden got some vineers

10:50

that have twice the amount of teeth that a normal

10:53

person has, but his are like he

10:55

has like unititooth, like the teeth are

10:58

all the same lengths, like

11:00

that haunting. We

11:02

call them cartoon shoppers.

11:06

What if I had seventy teeth that

11:08

were all the same size and

11:10

Hilary Duff has those. Hilary Duff

11:12

has cartoon shoppers. Ivanka,

11:18

Yeah, Devin, what is something

11:20

from your search history? Okay,

11:24

I don't want to say this reveal something about my personality

11:27

because that scares

11:29

me. But I had to use it because

11:32

it was one of the first few things that

11:34

came up. But there's an explanation for it, um

11:37

and that is die of strangulation

11:40

without bruising Okay,

11:46

now's a good time to mention that the two of you do have

11:48

a podcast called True Romance that

11:51

you co host together, and it's not a true crime podcast.

11:54

It is not, but yes, I

11:57

do have an obsession with true

12:00

crime. And I was working on a little

12:02

research project for

12:04

something I'm writing. And think those

12:06

of those people who can see what's having Devin did

12:09

like this physical affect when she said

12:11

project, which almost felt like very

12:13

sinister, like I felt like she's

12:15

going to take someone down. I have a

12:17

sinister demeanor. But I I

12:19

really I have to

12:22

go on record as saying it was a research

12:24

project. I was just trying to see, in

12:26

in a fantastical

12:29

world of imagination piece of

12:31

fiction, would it be possible for someone

12:33

to die of strangulation and have no bruising

12:35

so that when the police find the body they wouldn't

12:37

know that they had And what

12:40

was the What was the answer? Um,

12:44

you can't really die of strangulation

12:46

without bruising, So you can break someone's

12:48

neck though, right. I

12:50

didn't follow up with that, but probably

12:53

from what I can see on the Boys

12:56

on Amazon, it seems like you can just snap

12:58

it and nothing shows. Um,

13:01

so my dad inherited

13:04

some land from his great grandfather,

13:07

and out of family dinner with all of our relatives,

13:09

I made a joke about breaking a bone in my

13:12

dad's neck to kill him and get the land,

13:14

and nobody laughed, Oh

13:17

come on, really, everyone

13:19

just scared at me. And then I found out it

13:21

was because there's a lot of argument within the family

13:24

on who's going to get this land, and I

13:26

just really made it. Someone

13:30

approaches you after dinner to be like, so, like, what approach

13:32

were you thinking too? Yeah, exactly, They're

13:35

like, so we looked it up. You can't actually strangle

13:37

someone without bruising their neck, So

13:40

that's what you were thinking. Terrifying if someone

13:42

already was like, actually I thought about that too,

13:44

and that's just not the approach you're gonna want

13:46

to do healthy. He's too hard, he's

13:48

too hell Devin, What is something

13:51

that you think is overrated? I think

13:53

killing someone by strangulation is overrated

13:56

because it

13:58

does cause bruising, it does and seemed worth it.

14:00

I would say, if you're going to do it,

14:03

there's so many easier ways to do it,

14:05

And I think a lot of times strangulation

14:07

gets a lot of attention, a lot of hype because

14:10

it looks so dramatic, like

14:12

it looks like so um,

14:15

you know, like I'm a strong man. I'm

14:17

it's a big strong guy. I'm so

14:19

brave. I'm putting my hands around someone's neck. You

14:22

know what. In reality, in

14:25

reality, it is just

14:27

a mess. And for me, I

14:29

don't think I would go that route. So think

14:32

with the very brave stance to publicly

14:34

take Yeah, by

14:37

the way, this is my first interview

14:39

ever, so I'm

14:41

glad that this is what I'm coming out of the gate

14:43

with his murder methods. But no,

14:45

this is perfect. Okay, yeah, this

14:47

is the exact vibe we were searching for. Okay,

14:49

oh yeah, And thank you so much for even referring

14:51

to this as an interview rather than the meandering

14:54

thoughts of just four people going

14:56

through induced like health,

14:59

escape, fe your dream. This

15:02

is an interview and to continue

15:05

to continue this very serious interview, Carolina

15:08

Barlow, I would also like to ask you what

15:10

is something that you think is overrated?

15:13

Overrated? I want to say

15:17

I hate to go back and

15:19

hit her with this, but I think Amy McGrath

15:22

is insanely overrated

15:24

and over fundraised for She

15:26

has like sixty million dollars or

15:28

something ridiculous. I

15:30

think she had forty million dollars, but

15:32

I bet that's like doubled with all

15:35

of the news breaking, And

15:38

it's just not

15:40

the campaign we should be as

15:42

going as hard for. If m

15:44

J. Hagar had that in Texas, that would

15:47

be really exciting. But Amy

15:50

is not as liberal

15:52

as she should be. I wish Charles

15:54

Booker had started his campaign at the same time

15:57

she had, because I think he would have beat

15:59

her. And I'm

16:01

just, uh, if

16:03

she wins, I'll be the first to say congratulations.

16:06

I'll be the first in line to call Amy

16:09

and say congratulation her hand. Yeah,

16:12

yeah, really the Charles Booker. I mean many

16:14

people were excited because you're like, that's exactly

16:17

the energy this year's calling for, not

16:19

some establishment person who's going to try and like

16:21

thread the needle of like trying to be like

16:23

Mitch McConnell and also not like him at

16:25

the same time. It's, uh,

16:27

you hate to see it, but sometimes that's like when

16:30

the machine puts its weight behind someone, they're

16:32

like, Nope, sorry, we can't get too many boat rockers,

16:34

especially not someone who's gonna be in a

16:37

race like this. I mean there's

16:39

so many lesser of two Evils races

16:41

going on right now that it's just it's

16:43

like I've just constantly focused on the

16:46

three or four races that I'm like, I actually feel

16:48

like if someone won, this would be this would be good.

16:50

I have no notes. I have no notes

16:54

this one. I don't think that she's close

16:56

to Mitch McConnon anyway. And I think that

16:58

next to Dick Cheney, he has done most

17:01

harm to America in the past

17:03

fifty years than anyone else. That

17:05

being said, I just think

17:08

that we should go as radical to

17:10

the left as the GOP is going to the right.

17:12

And I'm just I yeah,

17:15

And I think we also have to stop using the term radical,

17:18

because ain't no un radical about just

17:20

being like, how about we just set a baseline

17:22

for standards of how to treat human beings?

17:24

That's not And I think

17:26

and I think we even get caught up in that because the like

17:29

the window has been shoved so far

17:31

to the right that even anything remotely

17:33

asking for equality is considered like

17:35

you've got your fucking berey on and

17:38

you're you're ready to fucking burn everything.

17:40

That's like, no, no, no, Like we need

17:42

a we need a standard of indecency

17:45

that we're we've completely just

17:47

let go of. But yes, universal

17:50

basic income. It's a good way of describing

17:52

that, and a lot more countries are beginning

17:54

to experiment with that because they realize how

17:57

lopsided yet you know, all

18:00

of the the amount of economic

18:02

inequality that's just like ramping across the globe

18:05

has maybe be like, I think we just have to do this

18:07

because like it will eventually just hollow

18:09

itself out at this

18:12

right, that's how

18:14

the machine seems to be moving. Uh,

18:16

Devon, what is something that you think

18:19

is underrated? Okay,

18:22

well, now I'm really hearing

18:25

Carolina's responses. I'm I am feeling

18:27

like I should have come up with smarter

18:31

sounding Oh

18:32

no, no, no, no, no, Devon. I

18:34

think that I sure to present the highbrow as

18:36

I do every day, and you should represent the low

18:39

brow as you do every day. Yeah. I think

18:41

I should speak for the garbage people because

18:43

I think they need a voice sanitation.

18:48

Yeah, you know, Staten Island.

18:51

No, I don't think starting on this trash. I don't want to say

18:53

that. Um. Okay, already

18:55

I'm already offending people. I'm not even trying.

18:58

Um. Yeah,

19:00

what's You're underrated even with the lowest

19:02

brow underrated you got okay,

19:04

So I

19:08

actually don't think this is lowest brow, but I can

19:10

see how many other people would think that it's

19:12

lowest brow. But I have spent a lot of

19:14

time in this quarantine thing about how

19:17

the show Married at First Sight is underrated.

19:20

Because Love

19:23

is Blind came out on Netflix, everyone

19:25

freaked out just because it's like shot with

19:28

better cameras and it's on Netflix.

19:30

People acted like they would deign to

19:32

watch this reality show. And it's amazing. Married

19:35

at First Sight walked,

19:38

so Love is Blind could run. Nobody talks about

19:40

it. It's not trending on Netflix.

19:42

It's always in my suggested section,

19:45

but it's not trending. It never is, and

19:48

it's It's just one of the

19:50

best reality shows I've ever seen. I don't know why it

19:52

doesn't have a huge following. If it does, I

19:54

can't find them, and I hope they find me.

19:57

But I have been deeply, deeply

19:59

invest it in the Married at First Sight world

20:02

caught up? You caught up to this season? I

20:04

am yeah, yeah, I mean,

20:06

look, we've seen a lot, you know,

20:09

with a with a contestant named Miles On this

20:11

season with Karen, I constantly

20:13

break my neck and I'm like, what, which say

20:15

to me? What about Miles there? Like Miles

20:17

has he's very affectionate and a sensitive guy.

20:19

I'm like, that's me too. Wow,

20:22

I'm on this show now. I

20:24

love Miles. And

20:26

first of all, now this most

20:29

recent episode, they the

20:31

past two episodes, they've started to bring up

20:33

like COVID, but nobody's really talking about

20:35

it besides Miles, Like he keeps saying like, we're

20:37

not going to go to a restaurant because of COVID nineteen.

20:40

We're actually not going to get to celebrate our anniversary

20:42

the way we wanted to. Because of COVID nineteen. Everyone

20:44

else is like going on trips, living

20:46

their best life. Um,

20:49

and he's just so I can't I

20:51

understand. I think Karen has like some

20:53

trauma, and I'm rooting for

20:55

her to open up. But the whole time, I've just been

20:57

like, wait, how could you not just be like how

21:00

did I get this blest that on a reality

21:03

show? I found a person who's this like

21:06

intellectual and interesting, intelligent,

21:09

emostly intelligent, supportive, like

21:12

really actually just wants to be married. Whereas

21:14

the rest of them. It's kind of questionable. Yeah,

21:18

for people who don't know it's it's

21:20

such an oh yeah, I mean, and every

21:22

season has its own flavor. Sometimes you get like

21:24

the most fucked up people who are

21:26

just gaslighting their partners the whole time,

21:28

and you're like, whoa, this is getting a little

21:30

murky. Other Times you're like, oh, ship,

21:33

they weren't feeling each other at all, and they're like starting

21:35

to love each other. Yes, Oh my god,

21:37

this is great. She's finally letting her guard down

21:39

and he's starting to actually open up about his own ship.

21:41

This is how you make ship work. So in a way like

21:44

it's it can be very uh invigorating

21:47

and but also gives you those trash moments you need

21:49

to be reality show. I've also been watching Single

21:51

Talent on HBO Max. WHOA,

21:54

that's a ride,

21:56

you know. This one is the exact. It's

21:58

a situation where it's people that the couples

22:01

that have been together for a while or at that point

22:03

of either they're gonna call it quits or

22:05

they need to date other people to realize they need

22:07

to be back together. So they split the

22:09

couples up and they

22:11

go and they live their single lives like meeting

22:14

new people, and at the end of like every week, they

22:16

come back and say do we want to Like they open

22:18

up a box and it's like, do we want to stay back together or

22:20

do we want to continue being single? And

22:22

sometimes they mismatch. But also it's

22:25

like the worst nightmare for anybody in a relationship,

22:27

where you like, you'll then see footage

22:29

like the other one side of the couple

22:32

will see footage of their partners like going on

22:34

dates and ship and they're like, oh my gosh,

22:36

They're like this this person is their type, and then it

22:38

works out it doesn't work anyway. All that to say is we

22:40

have so many ways to ignore our brutal

22:42

reality. Uh And I think, yeah, a

22:45

lot of options out there. I will be going

22:47

down that hole tonight. By the way, sign

22:52

up, I just need

22:54

HBO Max on the goddamn roku.

22:57

Oh yeah, what are they doing? What's what's

22:59

with the rocustling? I don't know. I think

23:01

it's classiest. Alright,

23:03

Well, Carolina, what's something that you think is underrated

23:05

as of today? I would say Donald

23:07

Trump's estimation of COVID was massively

23:10

underrated. But also

23:13

Chris Christie, you know, we

23:15

can throw in a bunch of people there, hope

23:17

picks. I would say it's massively underrated.

23:20

I mean, look what she was able to do, and everyone

23:22

just thought she was this dumb pr girl when really she

23:24

was a little Game of Thrones assassin. But

23:28

um, I

23:30

besides that, I guess I now

23:32

I'm thinking about universal basic income

23:34

and how that's overrated, I underrated,

23:36

Sorry, and how everyone

23:39

thought Andrew Yang was just this random

23:41

guy talking about giving everyone a thousand dollars,

23:43

but he was absolutely right

23:46

and was saying something that was

23:48

very much a bell Weather for the moment. So

23:52

yeah, sorry to be so high brow, so

23:54

intellectual. If you really want

23:56

to, you know, get into

23:58

the kiddie pool, you can talked to Devin about

24:02

m mean, yeah

24:05

seriously, well you know, I litally

24:07

know nothing about what's going on in the news and have the

24:09

most shallow understanding what's going on in

24:11

the world. But um, besides that,

24:14

Yeah, I love it. I love

24:17

it. Okay, let's come back. We're gonna take

24:19

a quick break and we'll get into your myths and the stories

24:21

right after this. And

24:33

we're back and let's get into some myth real

24:35

quick. Caroline, I'm gonna start off with you, what's

24:37

a myth? What do you what is something people think it is true

24:39

that you know to be false. I

24:42

know that ben

24:45

Affleck is not that smart. I

24:48

don't know this personally. I

24:50

don't think he's a genius director. I

24:53

don't think he's very funny. I think he

24:56

has frat brother energy.

24:58

I know he went to Harvard. And

25:00

if you want another low brow answer,

25:03

people say, if you do shave your legs, it grows

25:05

back looking darker. That's not

25:08

true. It's because of the angle the hair

25:10

grows back. Thank you so much for letting you

25:12

be on your podcast. What

25:14

the heck? That's what it is. I

25:17

mean with with ben Affleck Bennett, I

25:20

feel like anyone who's still on the ben

25:22

Affleck is a genius defense

25:24

force train. It just needs to get out of

25:26

the train and lay in front of it. Uh

25:28

is just simply is such a such

25:31

an easily disproved Ye?

25:34

How is it? I'm sorry? How is it easily

25:36

disproved? He has gone

25:38

through in his life. We just

25:41

and I hate to just steamroll here. Just allow me to finish

25:44

this. He's been through so many things in his life.

25:46

He's overcome a lot he's won an Academy

25:48

award about a smart guy. Okay,

25:51

and and with all of that, people

25:54

thought he was done. They counted him out. They said,

25:56

this guy has too many issues. Then he gets

25:58

a phoenix back tattoo to summit

26:00

all up his entire life

26:02

experience. And you're saying, this

26:05

man, this man, he gets

26:07

it. He fucking he's giving you a

26:09

the literal. I don't know. I just I think

26:11

he's varied. If he think for

26:14

Anada armus, I guess

26:16

I'll continue to accept him into

26:18

my life. But as the I

26:21

think I'm just being an over sensitive Boston

26:24

person because I am.

26:26

I just I'm so sick of the man. Although

26:28

I will say, if you get his coffee, order

26:30

a Dunkin Donuts, Uh,

26:33

it's pretty good. It's pretty good.

26:37

I would very much like to change my underrated

26:40

answer to the coffee. I Duncan Donuts

26:42

because I used

26:44

to Going to Dunkin Donuts in

26:46

New York is something that I do

26:48

miss. And the ice coffee

26:51

there, I think, is as good

26:53

as any dessert at any major restaurant.

26:55

It's amazing. I could have it every day.

26:57

It's good. I tried. I tried the

27:00

talk influencer coffee that Charlie,

27:03

and it is so I

27:05

like ship for days. It is definitely for

27:08

teenagers and not for adults. But

27:12

you know, if you're a growing young person

27:14

and you need a lot of dairy, then

27:17

try the Charlie. Yeah, if you're

27:19

a young child, it needs all that calcium. You

27:21

want a glass of milk, please get

27:23

the Charlie. Take

27:25

some activitia. Yeah, well,

27:28

obviously we're proactivity on this show. And

27:30

then Devin, you tell us, break us down, break

27:32

it down, break down a myth for us. What's something people

27:34

think is true that you know to be false or

27:36

vice versa. Well, first

27:38

of all, I just want to say that when I was

27:41

twenty years old, I went

27:43

to a tattoo parlor

27:45

and I said, I would really like to get

27:47

a phoenix rising from the ashes on my

27:50

arm tattoo, please, And

27:52

the woman was like, have you ever gotten a tattoo

27:54

before? I said no. She said, okay,

27:57

so that's gonna be really big. And

27:59

I think maybe you should pause

28:01

and think about it, because that's a really

28:04

big tattoo to get for your first time. Wow.

28:07

I will always be grateful to that woman

28:09

for stopping me from the rest of my life

28:12

from saying, oh it's

28:14

um Phoenix, UM

28:17

rising from the ashes because I UM

28:19

had like a really hard time and then I UM

28:22

like came out of it. So like it's a few when

28:25

how it was I

28:27

was twenty years old, it was right before I met you. Oh

28:30

my god, this is it's

28:32

like hearing about a near death experience.

28:35

So we're going to be like, yeah, and I want to thank that tattoo

28:38

artist and you pull up your sleeve. You're like, because it's

28:40

a it's

28:43

got me every date I've ever had in my life.

28:45

No. UM.

28:47

So that's a little story. A myth that

28:50

I would like to debunk that actually is

28:52

very important to me is skincare.

28:58

So my mom has been saying

29:00

for many years that the cream La

29:03

Mare, which you can buy at all

29:05

the fancy she she places for like two fifty

29:07

dollars. It's all all the celebrities use it, the

29:10

Kardashians post about it. It's

29:12

just a moisturizer. My mom has been saying for

29:14

many years that it's actually the same

29:16

exact ingredients as Nivea

29:19

or um Yeah,

29:21

that's one

29:23

right. Wait, it might not be

29:25

Niva, though it might be a different um

29:28

cream. It might

29:30

be Activia that you put on your face,

29:32

um strawberry flavor. No, it's

29:36

maybe like I

29:39

think it's Niva cream, but I'll fact check

29:42

after. And I

29:45

believed her when she told me that, But this was years ago,

29:47

and I continued buying. I've never bought

29:49

La Mare, but I always buy into whatever they

29:51

post on Instagram, like so

29:54

and so celebrity swears

29:56

by Sunday Riley swears by drunken

29:58

elephant. Hailey Baldwin use a drunken elephant.

30:00

Blah blah blah, you have to have it. Um.

30:04

So, I have spent

30:06

so much money on skincare,

30:09

particularly, I for a while was

30:11

using this serum that

30:14

was like a hundred and fifteen dollars, and

30:16

so I would use it like a tiny drop at

30:18

a time, and then I would try to get every little

30:20

like bubble out of the bottom of the bottle when

30:22

it was done, because I was like, this is so crazy

30:25

that I'm spending this money. But I thought like it's changing

30:27

my skin. Flash forward

30:29

to now that I'm in quarantine

30:32

seven months, I've stopped using everything

30:35

besides Seravey Night

30:37

moisturizer um,

30:40

and I think I use survey or seed

30:42

to fill day moisturizer, both from

30:44

CBS. My skin looks

30:47

the exact same, maybe

30:50

even better there it is, So

30:53

I just want to say it might just be my skin.

30:56

But I believe that all that stuff

30:58

is bullshit. I've tried every free thing,

31:00

like I've tried to makedotal evidence is

31:03

evidence. That's what I always say.

31:05

That's that's what I'm gonna say when they charge me with the strangulation,

31:08

with the bruising, I'm just anecdotal

31:10

evidence. I'm completely on board.

31:13

I have to completely agree with Devin

31:15

here and back her up, even though we've never even talked

31:17

about this before. But I

31:20

was reading an article with the facialist and it

31:23

was in like a products focused

31:26

website, and she said, do

31:28

less. That's her advice, she said, do

31:30

less. I got a really heavy,

31:33

expensive moisturizer and

31:35

it immediately broke me out

31:37

because it was too heavy and too rich.

31:40

And sometimes I don't put anything on

31:42

my face and it looks better. And

31:45

another thing I will say that's underrated is

31:48

zip patches. You

31:50

throw those on and you go about your day

31:52

and you don't touch your face and and it really

31:54

takes care of you. Okay,

31:56

shout out to z makes me feel young too.

31:59

It makes me feel fifteen again, like,

32:02

oh yeah, I mean shout out to that

32:04

Mario Pedescu spot treatment to you know what

32:06

I mean, You

32:10

know what I mean. We all know, we all had to be on

32:12

camera and praying to Mario that

32:15

you come through for me. Baby. All right, let's

32:17

get into the fucking news real quick,

32:19

just real quick, because I like these conferences care

32:23

Oh yeah, and then Ana hose Nate just wants to come in

32:25

because she's also very much skincare expert, just

32:27

in the chat saying your natural oil skins

32:29

can do wonders for your skin. Yes, your

32:31

own natural oils. That's what we've been saying. We all preached

32:33

natural oils here. Would also used to

32:35

grease my hands when I cook. If we're on the

32:38

subject of natural oils, don't shampoo

32:40

your hair as often, especially

32:42

right now during a time when we can spend

32:44

a lot of time indoors. You

32:46

can let those natural oils start. One

32:49

summer, I didn't shampoo for a whole

32:51

summer, and I was totally fine. And then I

32:53

did have to cut out a piece of my hair because it was dreadlocked.

32:56

How old was I eleven? Let's cut to the news.

32:58

Yeah, I like that, but look at your main now

33:01

it's it's it has of mythic proportions.

33:03

Has shampoo once a week? You shampoo

33:05

once a week? That's the trick. All right. Well, let's talk about

33:08

this guy, Governor

33:10

Greg Abbott. I guess he's the governor

33:12

of this place called Texas, which

33:15

I guess is like an important state

33:17

in the scheme of things because we're still tethered

33:19

to this fucking thing called the Electoral College,

33:22

etcetera, etcetera. Um. He

33:24

has basically come out with a proclamation last

33:26

week saying that he's going to limit

33:28

the number of mail in ballot drop boxes

33:31

in the state of Texas to one per

33:34

county. Now you think, okay, maybe

33:36

that makes sense, but when you think of how fucking

33:39

sprawling Texas is and how some

33:41

of these counties, how big these counties are Harris

33:44

County Yeah, yeah,

33:46

um exactly with Harris

33:48

County, uh, you know, the most

33:51

populous in the country, and

33:53

it covers I believe, like over seventeen

33:55

hundred square miles is where Houston is.

33:58

Uh, they're just now only gonna have one

34:00

fucking drop off location. So

34:04

sure ship is October, isn't it.

34:07

Yeah? Uh, And I mean this is

34:10

I mean, this was so predictable

34:12

because we've just been saying like they're

34:15

trying to do every single possible

34:17

thing to suppress the votes, and I can't

34:19

think of something more just out in the

34:21

open draconian bullshit of being

34:23

like, yeah, this square

34:25

mile county, you're gonna have to figure out how

34:27

to get to this one point no matter where you are. And

34:30

I think the you know, the the

34:33

time of announcement is pretty telling as

34:35

well of like, oh, there's this gigantic

34:37

news item that everyone is going to be talking

34:39

about. Let's just slip in some vote or suppression,

34:42

you know, on a Friday. Let's get this through

34:45

and then we can't say we didn't say anything,

34:47

um, when the consequences of this

34:49

are so gigantic. So

34:51

yeah, if you live out there, please be aware, um,

34:54

of the ongoing funckory to try

34:57

and basically make it as difficult as

34:59

possible for you to vote if

35:01

you are doing so. Yeah, but it's I mean,

35:03

this is the this is the part where I'm like, hello you,

35:06

and please send outside

35:08

observers to monitor this funck

35:10

fest, Like like I

35:13

feel like Eve at this point, being like, can anyone

35:15

stop that from happening? Someone

35:18

doing America on us? That's what I felt

35:20

like November six, I was like, can

35:23

someone fly in? I know,

35:25

it seemed like, oh, sorry, go ahead, No.

35:27

I I just couldn't believe that

35:30

we were left with this guy. It

35:32

seemed like for so many decades there

35:34

had been these speaking of myths,

35:36

but like, you know, these very

35:39

glamorous tales of like the c I A

35:42

coming in and like I guess not glamorous,

35:44

but like assassinating people and they needed

35:46

to um and it's like, where are

35:48

they now? What are they up to? If there

35:50

is a deep state? What are they thinking? If

35:53

there is a stands Trump, you know,

35:55

like he has he already has too

35:57

many stooges in so many different

36:00

levels that can allow for a lot of this ship to

36:02

go forward, which is sort of like the ironic thing

36:04

is that the few that they

36:06

are sort of uh disingenuously

36:09

spin any like attempts at accountability

36:12

as being like there's a fucking it's the deep state.

36:14

Uh So that's I'm

36:17

very curious if if we have any

36:19

listeners who are volunteering at polls

36:22

um as well, because I feel like, that's going to be such

36:24

a big discussion on top of obviously

36:26

early voting and mail and voting. But I

36:28

know some people in some states who are volunteering

36:31

at poll centers or working at poll centers

36:33

that are being trained. And then I

36:36

technically got hired to be a poll worker,

36:38

but no one is communicated with me.

36:40

And when I call the office,

36:42

they're like, we don't know what's going on. Don't

36:46

call us, we'll call you. Like it's just on

36:48

every level. It's just like also the website

36:51

to volunteer to work up poll in l A's

36:53

so shady. It sends you to another one. They're like, yeah, put yourself

36:55

security number down real quick. You're like wait, what it's

36:59

like, yeah, work at pull

37:01

center dot ru dot biz. And

37:04

you're just like this and

37:06

then you're like no, we sort of God, it's really like, well, you

37:08

could have done better with the U r L and the

37:11

fist aggressive like give me your personal info out

37:13

the gate, but it is what it is. Uh

37:15

So let's move on to I guess the

37:17

the big story. Okay, Now,

37:20

as you know, full disclosure, we record this Friday.

37:22

This episode has been recorded Friday. So we just

37:24

found out now, we don't know if Trump

37:27

has emerged from the White House seven times

37:29

his size with fucking

37:31

fire breathing powers or not. That's

37:34

my theory. Um. But as

37:36

of now, we got word that the

37:39

president of the First Lady have tested

37:41

positive for COVID nineteen,

37:44

and uh, this set off like

37:46

five million simultaneous

37:49

fucking conspiracy theories all at

37:51

once. And why wouldn't it because

37:53

nothing this man says is real, Nothing

37:56

that comes out of this administration has

37:58

been fully truthful. And also

38:00

like we're in this again fucked

38:02

up nightmare. We're quite literally

38:04

like we're sort of I still feel

38:06

like I'm in this mode, just waiting for somebody to

38:08

wake me up and be like, sir, your

38:10

mega yacht is ready to take off, and

38:13

I'm like, thank you so much. I don't know what I was

38:15

doing back there. Did my eyes roll back to my

38:17

head? Fantasy island things?

38:19

Yeah? Um

38:21

So now like I just want to kind of break down. So like

38:24

the biggest ones that people are talking about immediately,

38:26

like the takes that were coming off the internet. First one is

38:28

he doesn't want to debate anymore, so

38:31

he had like and the last one went so

38:33

poorly that he's pretending to

38:36

have the coronavirus. M

38:38

hm. Yes, that was our first

38:41

thought, Devin and I the

38:44

next one. That's pretty that's getting

38:46

around too. It's that this is meant to be a total

38:48

distraction from the like tax cheat

38:51

story, that being like, oh COVID,

38:53

Oh shit, I forgot that he's Mr seven

38:55

fifty a year, right, He's like I,

39:00

I'm saying I

39:03

And when I thought this, I thought, oh, yeah,

39:05

a distraction. But then

39:09

again it's I mean, the thing that debunks

39:11

all of these theories in my head and watch

39:13

all of them be true. But in my person.

39:17

To me, it's so bad

39:19

for the economy. It shows

39:21

his supporters that COVID is not a hoax.

39:24

He's wearing a mask. Suddenly Fox

39:26

News has miraculously started

39:28

showing him wearing a mask. M

39:31

hm. The one visual they

39:33

have of him with a mask on, and it

39:36

it to me, this is a nightmare,

39:38

and I for him, sorry,

39:41

it's a dream. It's a true dream for me

39:43

and most of my friends. But it's

39:45

an actual nightmare for the campaign that

39:48

after saying that nobody was getting stick

39:50

at his rallies, he himself

39:53

got sick. Also the

39:55

more I thought about it, he doesn't

39:57

think he did a bad job at the debates, and he

40:00

doesn't think he'll lose the next

40:02

one either, Like his brain just doesn't work that

40:04

way. It's kind of like Robert

40:06

Durst who did the Jinks documentary

40:09

and everyone was like, why is this guy doing this documentary

40:11

when he's just talking about how basically he murdered

40:13

people and giving it away. Um,

40:16

they think they can get away with anything,

40:19

and they think they can win in every

40:21

situation because, um,

40:24

their brain doesn't work like ours. So I don't

40:26

think he would actually come

40:29

up with a plot for getting out of a

40:31

place where he could be shown on camera

40:33

arguing with someone that that doesn't

40:36

seem likely. Well that's the thing too with his rallies,

40:38

right, that was his favorite thing to do was

40:40

to do rallies, And so a

40:42

part of me thinks, also he

40:47

actually this isn't my thought, it's Owen Allison's

40:49

on Twitter. I agree with

40:51

Owen Aleson who said this is his favorite

40:53

thing to do. So I think this is real because

40:55

he would definitely want to continue doing rallies.

40:59

Yeah, the narcissism

41:02

and the ego driven spirit of

41:04

him is just not one that it

41:06

doesn't make sense for him to feign

41:09

illness, especially when his whole thing is about

41:11

projecting like fucking Mr boehner

41:13

Man five thousand, who

41:16

like is just infallible? That's my

41:18

screen name. Yeah,

41:21

I mean I just to backtrack

41:24

just a second. Um, I did just

41:26

want to say that Robert Durst is innocent

41:29

and he has not done a crime before, right,

41:31

even but

41:34

even on time, I mean what as

41:36

I mean, it was last night was

41:39

fun, right, It's fun for everyone

41:42

to go full Facebook mom all over the timeline.

41:44

They're like, I'm born wine, this is fun.

41:47

Like everyone last night was acting

41:49

like how my mom acts on Facebook every single

41:51

day of her entire life. And that's

41:53

fun, and I like that for for a second,

41:56

it does. I mean, I just my

41:58

concern. I don't I fully believe that he

42:00

has COVID, but if it's a pretty asymptomatic

42:03

experience, I feel like it's just going

42:06

to do even more to

42:08

so disinformation. And ultimately,

42:10

if he makes a full

42:12

recovery and it's not that

42:14

much of an issue, then I feel like it just feels

42:17

what he's been saying the whole time, which is it's

42:19

not that big of a deal and like,

42:21

don't worry I got it, nothing happened.

42:23

Who gives a ship like that whole

42:25

mentality? So who

42:28

is? Yeah, the who? The game? Who?

42:30

I don't know, it's it worries me a

42:33

lot. I've like this. I have like

42:36

a few like friends of the family who have just

42:38

gone full que and will listen to

42:40

you know, are taking health tips

42:43

from this person. And so

42:46

I just like, as fun as it is to

42:48

be like, funk this guy, like,

42:51

who gives a ship? What happens to him? I just it.

42:53

I do feel like no matter which

42:56

way you spend it, unless he truly gets

42:58

very, very sick and said so, this

43:01

will still result in more disinformation about

43:03

COVID spreading, and that worries

43:05

me. Yeah. A lot of people changed

43:08

pretty quickly from being like, don't

43:10

worry about masks and like it's

43:12

a hoax to like pray for the president.

43:15

Like it was interesting how people

43:18

really got That's why some people like, Yo,

43:20

which one is it? Is it a fucking

43:22

hoax or it's not? Because

43:24

if it is, then you shouldn't give a funk

43:26

with this person saying but if you are now concerned,

43:28

then are so now it's But again, I

43:30

think we all see this sort of like simultaneous

43:33

contradictory like logic that goes

43:35

on with a lot of the supporters. So it's

43:37

just more of like a frustrating byproduct

43:40

that you know immediately it's like, Okay, well,

43:42

I'm going to contradict myself by now arguing on behalf

43:44

of this is really shouldn't be talking bad about it because it's

43:46

it's it's it's a real danger. I mean, best

43:48

case scenario, he's really really sick. Bye

43:50

bye, he's what best

43:54

case scenario he's extremely sick? Yeah?

43:57

Yeah, or who knows. It's

43:59

like at this point and I'm like, I don't even know, Like what

44:01

the fuck? What's gonna save this year?

44:03

If it's just a fucking asteroid just hits the

44:05

fucking earth or this guy gets I

44:07

don't know, Sorry,

44:10

don't go ahead. Oh no, I'm just all

44:12

that to say, is I think it's it's a

44:14

weird. It's sort of weird to sort of sit

44:16

with that moment where you're like, is

44:20

is this gonna give me hope? Is this

44:22

the is this the path to hope? Is this

44:24

the only thing I hope for? Because there's

44:26

also a myriad of problems after

44:28

even this president that like I'm

44:31

worried get ignored even if Biden

44:33

wins and a lot of people are gonna hit the reset

44:35

button on like actually trying

44:37

to move forward to give people a

44:39

dignified life. Um,

44:42

it's all just surreal. That's why in the end, I'm just sort of

44:44

like, no, no, this he's fucking evil. He

44:46

comes out like some fucked up charizard,

44:49

just fucking like on some new ship. Because

44:52

and yeah, to like your fear, Jamie,

44:54

is that like that also would give him a bump

44:56

in that sense that he's faster,

44:59

stronger, smarter, more

45:02

racist after after

45:04

recovering from COVID. Right that like evil

45:06

fortifies you, so keep keeping evil.

45:09

Um, I will say, there's a part of

45:11

me that feels like, uh,

45:14

you know, like Hubrist took Hitler down

45:16

like Hitler thought he was. He was basically

45:18

on his path to take over the world, So why not go

45:20

after Russia? And I

45:23

think in a weird way, it's what's going

45:25

to take Trump down too. And I think

45:28

he was ballsy with the

45:31

call to Ukraine because

45:34

the Mullar, like, because Mueller didn't

45:36

succeed in fully taking him down, and

45:39

so then that's what led to him

45:41

being impeach, and I think weirdly

45:43

with COVID, it's like, Okay, the legal system

45:46

is just acting slow because I agree

45:48

with you. Every sort of advancement

45:50

with you know, Deutsche Bank, with his taxes,

45:52

I've thought, there we go, there we go. Oh my god, it's

45:55

gonna end soon. I can't wait. Blah blah blah. Jared

45:57

Kushner is going to be arrested tomorrow in New York.

46:00

Anyway, none of that has been happening. But

46:03

his hubris in thinking that he will

46:05

not get sick when he is

46:07

actually a person who has

46:09

at a high risk for really getting the consequences

46:12

of this disease is kind

46:15

of I mean, it's poetic. It's

46:18

it makes logical sense. Every leader has

46:20

who has come out, like you know, from Boris Johnson

46:22

to Bolson Arrow. We're doing the thing. It's like I'm not wearing

46:25

a mask. I shake hands. I'm with the people. They

46:27

all. You know. The thing is

46:29

you work around with science and eventually you'll find out.

46:32

Uh. And that's just all I think I

46:34

can muster up in terms

46:36

of a take into with this specific

46:38

thing. But the thing that Reagan

46:40

had been having unprotected sex in the eighties

46:43

while admonishing right

46:46

like the HIV AIDS epidemic. Yes, that

46:49

assassination attempt made a lot of people feel

46:51

very sympathetic towards him too, which is the

46:54

weird thing about all this. People

46:57

are feared that this is going to create sympathy. The

46:59

bottom line is he continues to be evil,

47:01

his administration continues to go down a path

47:03

of just abject authoritarianism.

47:07

Uh. And that's I'll have to

47:09

keep my eye on many balls at once. Uh.

47:12

I'm glad everyone had last night

47:14

was fun. That's all I know at this

47:16

time. Last night was fun. And we

47:18

will see what happened. Those get

47:20

those victories in where you where you can get them. Um.

47:23

You know, it

47:25

was kind of like I

47:28

think everyone was so depressed

47:31

from UM

47:34

watching the President refused

47:36

to condemn and basically encourage UM

47:39

white supremacy, like among other

47:41

things. I think everyone was so hopeless and

47:43

then this one thing, as

47:47

was said, just like erupted us all into

47:50

white aunts on Facebook. Yeah

47:55

yeah, And all this to say is like it all. What

47:57

we do know is that Hope Hicks is the first

48:00

one that tested positive UM,

48:02

and the White House wanted to keep that a

48:05

fucking secret. At first, they

48:07

found out Thursday, and they

48:09

said, quote, only a small circle of people initially

48:11

new Hicks had tested positive, and senior staff sought

48:13

to keep that information from being public. Uh

48:16

then it said a White House

48:18

spokesperson told The Hill on Friday

48:20

that it's up to Hicks, not the White House,

48:22

to decide whether to make personal health information

48:25

public. Okay, asshole,

48:27

you have a fucking highly whatever. I don't

48:29

even need to explain that. God thanks

48:31

pieces of ship. So at that point, aids

48:34

immediately were like, Okay, what are we gonna do. This

48:36

means like this is gonna probably have a knock on effect

48:38

on the campaign. They they

48:40

noticed the President was unwell

48:42

on Wednesday. They're like, yo, this

48:45

dude's mad tired, and they

48:47

thought maybe it's the campaign, but other people

48:49

like he could just be all this you know, non mass

48:52

than usual. Something's not right. Yeah

48:55

right, um. And you know, with

48:57

all that they found out that uh

49:00

hop Picks tested positive, Trump carried

49:02

on with like some golf, went to a fundraiser

49:04

with supporters, took some photos.

49:07

Uh you know, it's just it's very

49:09

irresponsible. But that's sort of the battle cry

49:11

of the GOP right now is completely

49:13

ignore this pandemic and

49:15

rely on like this momentum of

49:17

white upper class privilege

49:20

to try and insulate you from the reality that most

49:22

other people are experiencing. So we'll see how long that

49:24

goes, you know.

49:25

I enjoyed

49:28

the Twitter theories that

49:30

Hope Picks was some kind of sleeper cell

49:34

like I'll like, I was like, this is ridiculous.

49:37

But the fact that she's like, Okay, so cough

49:39

in my mouth and then I'll cough in the President's

49:41

mouth, and that's like, that's

49:43

like the shitty Air and Sorkin edit of right.

49:48

Also, I can't

49:50

think of a I can't

49:52

think of someone who would be more

49:55

likely to spread COVID to the

49:57

President than Hope Picks, meaning

49:59

that I was surprised even Milania had

50:01

it because I'm convinced they only spend time

50:04

together for photo ops or to

50:06

leave a plane together, and she obviously looks

50:08

like she is physically repulsed by touching

50:10

him. But I don't think

50:13

Eric Trump, for instance, would be able to get

50:15

COVID from I

50:17

don't think Eric Trump would be able to pass it to

50:20

his father or even Ivanka. I

50:22

don't think anyone spends as much time with him.

50:24

He doesn't value anyone as much as whole picks.

50:26

I mean, people thought he was despondent

50:29

when she left the White House, and that's why she had to

50:31

come back, because he trusted

50:33

her and admired her so much. And we all

50:35

know that's because she's hot. Yeah.

50:39

Well, you know, jaredy Vanka tested negative.

50:41

So yeah, but

50:44

Jared Avanca, the Vice President, and

50:47

Joe Biden have all tested

50:50

neg Yeah, but I know

50:53

Ronna Romney McDaniel tested

50:55

positive and some other people

50:57

whatever from

50:59

her own Yeah,

51:03

all right, all

51:05

right, let's take a quick break and

51:07

we'll be back after this. And

51:19

we're back, And this

51:21

is a big question I've been thinking about during

51:24

lockdown, introverts, extroverts,

51:27

in instric extroverts, whatever. If

51:29

you're a combo who has

51:31

been who's been faring better during

51:34

like the lockdowns and social distancing, if

51:36

you go off of like internet chatter,

51:38

you think that the like introverts

51:41

are the ones winning, you know what I mean, Like a lot of

51:44

the like tweets and things you see on

51:46

Instagram seem to be like this is this is the

51:48

time of the introvert, because you know, the idea

51:50

being that like they're used to being alone, so this

51:52

isn't that much of an effect. There are

51:54

a couple of researchers that were kind of like, is

51:56

this true or not? Now

51:59

it's a hard this is a very hard study

52:02

to really give that much weight too, because the sample

52:04

size is fairly small, and I

52:06

think also just the fact that we are, like in unprecedented

52:09

times in terms of like media reach

52:12

and general societal chaos. I

52:14

don't know if that's a good I don't know if you can ever have a

52:16

good control group right now

52:19

for how any of this would work. But the

52:21

thing is that this this um

52:24

researcher starts off very being very

52:27

academic about this idea that like,

52:29

like social media says introverts have

52:31

been doing well. Quote. This wave of content

52:34

points to a common belief among the general public

52:36

that introverts are faring better than extroverts

52:39

e g. User generated pictorial

52:41

content more colloquially known as

52:44

memes. However,

52:46

the assumption seems counterintuitive in light

52:48

of several previously documented characteristics

52:50

of introverts, such as the tendency to experience emotions

52:53

more intensely. I wanted to empirically test

52:55

the claim that introverts are faring better than their extroverted

52:57

counterparts, so what you know,

53:00

very generally, superficially, they found

53:03

that introverts weren't actually

53:05

doing as well as extra extroverts

53:08

um, saying that if anything, they

53:11

were actually more like

53:14

they were more susceptible to feelings of loneliness

53:17

versus like the forced social interactions

53:19

that they would have if things were going on normally,

53:22

like even then you do it, you don't like it, but it's happening.

53:25

But they're saying that this has contributed, again

53:27

very superficially anecdotally, that

53:30

more introverts are saying like I'm having

53:32

a little bit of a harder time than I actually thought

53:35

initially. Yeah, that

53:37

I feel like that kind of tracks were I

53:40

don't know, like I'm pretty

53:42

introverted in that I don't

53:44

I like to be at home and I don't like to have

53:47

Like the relief that

53:49

came like one of the few reliefs that came

53:51

with lockdown was

53:55

not feeling like I'm not socializing

53:58

enough. I'm like, oh, no one is social. I say, this

54:00

is great, finally everyone's on my level. But that

54:03

I mean that wears off, That's

54:05

that very much wears off. Yeah,

54:08

I was okay for the first

54:11

I want to say, up to four months, I

54:13

was okay, and I actually had a routine

54:15

that was pretty down, like

54:18

I made I had it to do list that literally

54:20

included get dressed and drink water.

54:23

Like I was like, Okay, I'm not gonna be in my jamas all day,

54:25

I'm gonna drink water, work out for thirty minutes today,

54:28

um read a little bit, you know,

54:30

Like I was very much

54:32

in the zone in terms of staying

54:35

productive and staying present. And

54:37

then about two months ago, I

54:40

just sort of had it and

54:43

the days started really bleeding

54:45

together, and so I'm

54:47

trying to pick it up again, trying to get my routine

54:49

back. But yeah, I'm I

54:51

haven't craved going out

54:54

like this since I was literally

54:56

like twenty one, where I'm like,

54:58

Okay, I wish I just want to be in New

55:00

York with Devon. I want to be walking

55:02

around. I want to be sitting on a stoop, drinking coffee,

55:05

trying to find a party to go to. About

55:08

you, Yeah, I think, I mean, I

55:11

actually don't know if I'm an introvert or an extrovert.

55:13

I feel like I should take some kind of online

55:16

quiz about that um Cosmo

55:18

quiz. But I am

55:20

yeah, some kind of like seventeen Ways

55:22

to Know Um. But I

55:27

am really like socially

55:29

awkward and have a lot of social anxiety.

55:31

But I'm really codependent with

55:34

the people in my life, so I I love

55:36

to socialize and go out. UM

55:39

and I for

55:42

the first couple

55:44

of weeks, I'm now at my parents house

55:47

in New York. For the beginning

55:49

the first couple of weeks of the

55:52

outbreak getting serious, I was by

55:54

myself in my apartment

55:56

that I lived in, by myself in l A. And

55:59

I swiftly spiraled

56:02

into a mental breakdown, like

56:04

I was losing my mind because

56:07

I I think the

56:09

social anxiety comes from me being

56:11

a fearful person. And because I'm a fearful

56:13

person, my mind is just like

56:16

I hell whole, like

56:19

all the worst case scenarios that can happen.

56:22

Yeah, I have O c D. So like every time

56:25

I went outside, I um,

56:27

you know, couldn't stop thinking about it for the rest of

56:29

the day. It was just like very

56:31

bleak and I'm so so grateful that I

56:33

got here when I did. Um.

56:37

But yeah, I think like I

56:39

have realized that I

56:41

do rely so much on being

56:44

filled with the joy of like other

56:46

people's presence.

56:49

Um It's sometimes

56:51

it's hard for me to tell because I

56:54

I definitely am not the kind of if I'm at a party

56:56

where I don't know anybody, I don't

56:58

talk to anyone, right, I'm

57:01

instantly like, sorry, not

57:03

gonna be center stage here. If it's if it's an

57:05

environment, I'm I know enough people,

57:08

I'm a little bit more loose. But even then, like I'll

57:10

typically like if someone has a birthday

57:12

party at a bar, I'm typically sat in

57:14

the same spot the entire time, Like I'm

57:17

not going around like

57:19

hey, hey, hey. And I know, like it's

57:21

one thing to be very like gregarious on Mike

57:23

and things like that, but I know personally I have to

57:25

I can't. I can't get my ship

57:28

together with people around, Like I

57:30

truly need that I have to retreat to like

57:32

my temple of solitude at times.

57:35

But I also I'm curious if I'm also missing

57:37

out on a lot of this stuff in terms of lack

57:39

of social interaction, because the benefit

57:41

is, like I record a podcast every day

57:43

where I look at people and I talk

57:45

and even though it's not physical, like I can get

57:48

out a lot of like my like, we're socializing,

57:50

for lack of a better term, You're talking about what's

57:52

going on with you. You're sharing your thoughts on this thing

57:54

that happened, and and I wonder if

57:56

like this has actually been the thing that is

57:59

keeping me feel like still

58:01

connected while at the same time gaining

58:03

the benefits of like not having

58:06

to go up because I'm almost like you, Jame, I like, thank

58:08

god, I'm not missing out on ship because I didn't

58:10

care about the ship when it was going on. But people want to make

58:12

me feel like for missing it, And I'm like, but that

58:15

anxiety but like, I

58:17

don't know, yeah it is. It is really straight

58:19

where I'm

58:22

glad that the first three months was kind of nice

58:24

for for people who are

58:26

socially anxious of like, oh well, at least

58:29

everything else has fallen to ship, but that

58:32

anxiety has been removed.

58:34

But but that does like I don't

58:36

know then and then it comes into like over

58:38

isolation. Are you not reaching out to people

58:40

when you should be because there's

58:42

no one around to be like, hey, you seem a little

58:45

off, which is sometimes

58:47

something that I like I'll need is

58:49

for someone just like someone I see a lot

58:51

to be like are you good, and then I'll

58:54

be like oh wait, uh no, no

58:56

no, it turns out no, yeah,

58:59

yeah, the ounability is completely different.

59:01

It's like all up to you to keep

59:04

in touch with people, seek help if you need

59:07

it, like have a schedule.

59:10

That was a interesting adjustment,

59:12

like making my own schedule.

59:15

Um yeah, yeah, the podcast is really helpful,

59:18

I think, and even like the one benefit is I've

59:20

actually because i realized my own

59:22

inability to like communicate my

59:25

needs in general, just because I'm an only

59:27

child and I'm like come from

59:29

like an Asian culture where I'm not really going to

59:32

advocate out loud for my own needs and ship

59:34

like that. Um that it's

59:37

it has given me a little bit more awareness that

59:39

I've been more on top of like trying to connect

59:41

with people that I normally haven't been because I'm

59:43

like starting to see like within myself

59:45

that need like that you know, we gotta I

59:47

gotta check in more. So that's been like I think the one

59:50

benefit is like through this, I've sort

59:52

of helped It's helped me bolster my skills

59:54

of outreach because I would not do that

59:56

as much. So you know, you take it

59:58

all with a grain of salt and then uh,

1:00:01

lastly, I just want to say, someone sucker punched

1:00:03

Rick Moranis in New York. You hate

1:00:06

to see it. I don't know what happened, but not,

1:00:10

honey, I punched Rick Moranis. Honey,

1:00:15

I punched this ship out of that dude. Yeah.

1:00:18

He he was just walking

1:00:21

down New York minding his own when some

1:00:23

guy in I Love and why hood he just sneaks

1:00:26

him with a quick one. Uh. And

1:00:28

I don't think he was concussed or

1:00:30

anything, but just a weird It's like Rick Moranis is like

1:00:32

the most like non specific looking person

1:00:35

where I don't know if this person was having a bad day,

1:00:37

was on some ship or whatever, but uh.

1:00:40

Like also, Rick Moranis was doing his most

1:00:42

to stay out of the fucking spin and

1:00:45

then he does one thing.

1:00:47

He does one thing with Ryan Reynolds, and now he's getting

1:00:49

fucking sucker punched in the streets of New York. I want

1:00:52

to say he's about to retire forever. He's

1:00:54

about to for fucking ever. Do

1:00:57

you think he's going to be like, see, this is why I don't do

1:00:59

this it man, I did want the

1:01:04

guy, just want him back in the spotlight. Maybe

1:01:06

it's something the guy hates him, that it's that he

1:01:08

loves him. His agent,

1:01:11

Oh my god, Rick Maran is his agent hired

1:01:13

the dude to punch him? And they'd

1:01:15

be like, the only twist I will accept is

1:01:17

it someone he knows and has a

1:01:19

beef going back to Little Shop of Horse.

1:01:22

What if it was Frank Oz and we just don't know,

1:01:24

you know, we don't know Frank

1:01:28

Sucker punch him in the middle of the street. That's

1:01:30

Cannon. Oh man, Well

1:01:33

we'll have to well, they'll they'll be more on this story.

1:01:35

I'm sure this will be developing as much as the president's

1:01:38

health status. So we'll keep it on this one. Um.

1:01:40

But thank you so much Carolina,

1:01:43

and thank you guys.

1:01:46

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1:02:16

and in constant development.

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Uh So, if you ever want to hear horror

1:02:21

stories about times

1:02:23

Devon and I have been kicked out of dorm rooms,

1:02:27

um, constant rejection

1:02:29

from the opposite sex, or

1:02:32

constant paranoia when we have successfully

1:02:35

trapped a man into being

1:02:38

in a relationship with us, that's

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True Romance. Yeah, we like to talk

1:02:43

about a lot of celebrity relationships.

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Um. I really, I really hope

1:02:48

that my obsession

1:02:50

with strangulation that came to light on

1:02:53

this podcast doesn't deter you. I

1:02:55

think that's a horrible thing. Again, I

1:02:58

was just researching a project. I

1:03:01

don't think that will have been affect people's taste.

1:03:04

But I like that. I'm

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not That's not who I am, And

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I just want to say that if you want to know

1:03:12

who I am, and if you want to know more about

1:03:14

who Carolina is and see maybe some

1:03:16

of her own low brow moments, you

1:03:19

should tune in and

1:03:22

you can find the podcast also on Instagram

1:03:24

at at True Romance

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pod. I think, right, that's it. Yeah,

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yeah, uh yeah, And I've I remember

1:03:31

when you were first talking about this idea, Carolina,

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and you were just rattling off some

1:03:36

tales the two of you had, and I could

1:03:38

I could not stop laughing because in a

1:03:40

way, like, it's hard to believe that this is

1:03:42

a real person's life and not a brilliantly

1:03:44

written script and

1:03:47

not a tragedy. Thanks however

1:03:49

you want to put that, I'm

1:03:51

like, these are some solid fucking stories you got,

1:03:54

And so yes, if if you really want to get

1:03:56

into like the nitty gritty of it, you got

1:03:58

to check out True Romance. Um, So Twitter

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and Instagram Wise, where can people find y'allo personally?

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And what's a tweet that you've been enjoying? Uh,

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you can find me at Carolina Underscore

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Barlow on Twitter. Instagram.

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You can find me at Carolina Rose Barlow.

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As for a tweet I've been enjoying,

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I would say Matt Rogers on Twitter

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celebrating Trump's diagnosis has been

1:04:20

my favorite account to follow. It includes

1:04:23

him saying that if

1:04:25

Milania, if you insult Christmas

1:04:28

during Mariah Carey's Christmas

1:04:31

Week, you get COVID and

1:04:33

that this was all karma

1:04:36

for Milannia coming after Christmas. What

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about you, Devin? Um,

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you can find me on Twitter

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at I think,

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oh yeah, it's d lerious.

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Um, But with a zero instead of an oh,

1:04:55

because I'm fancy like that. Alright,

1:04:58

Hacker, Because I

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am Mr Robot

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and at my Instagram

1:05:05

is at Devin hunter Leary. I think

1:05:08

I was gonna do a funny tweet, but I

1:05:10

think I'm actually going to recommend

1:05:13

my boyfriend's Twitter, not because he's my boyfriend,

1:05:15

but because he has been predicting

1:05:18

and commenting on a lot of stuff that I

1:05:20

think is really important. He

1:05:22

calls the media out for not

1:05:25

talking about not making the fact

1:05:27

that the President said that

1:05:29

the Proud Boys should stand by

1:05:33

stuff like that, like the fact that the media didn't

1:05:35

make that the number one headline the next day. It was all like

1:05:37

chaotic back and forth, like

1:05:39

fire a debate. Um, So

1:05:41

I want to recommend his Twitter. Matt

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Negren, Yeah, at Matt. I think

1:05:46

it's at Matt Negren. Again, I am

1:05:48

Mr Robot. I would I would

1:05:51

clown on Devon if she was

1:05:53

just saying this because he's her boyfriend. But he is

1:05:55

followed by the likes of Ben Rhodes,

1:05:58

Jon Favreau, Frank Rich.

1:06:00

He's actually a pretty notable political voice.

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And that is a humble

1:06:05

brag of me being friends

1:06:07

with Devon on him he's an Emmy nominated

1:06:09

journalist. We really we stand

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Matt, Jamie, thank you

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for helping me co host, really though, thank

1:06:16

you for hosting today. Where can people find

1:06:18

you and follow you? And what's the tweet that you like? You

1:06:21

can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus

1:06:24

help Instagram at Jamie christ

1:06:26

Superstar. I

1:06:28

am I. I wrote an episode

1:06:30

of Magical Girl Friendship Squad

1:06:33

on Sci Fi this weekend, so you can

1:06:35

go out to that. It's really fun cartoon

1:06:39

and a tweet I'm enjoying.

1:06:42

You're just a perfect wholesome tweet from my co host,

1:06:44

Caitlin Durante um

1:06:46

at Caitlin Durante. It's October, so

1:06:48

it's a good time to remind everyone that Caitlin

1:06:51

Durante anagrams to nine

1:06:53

tip dracula um,

1:06:55

which, if I think, my favorite anagram of

1:06:57

her name. So it's is the season for my favorite

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Caitlin intagram nintre

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dracula is the is the goat anagram.

1:07:04

I mean it was Latin dancer U t I Latin

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dancer UT. I felt good, but like nine

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tip dracula is a fucking wave.

1:07:13

Now I want to I want to ride all the way into

1:07:15

the Shore franchise, Yeah

1:07:17

right into You're right. You don't say

1:07:19

that out loud. Don't say that a loud. We need to we need to copyright

1:07:22

that ship. We have Night and Tip, Dracula,

1:07:24

lunch boxes and everything. I can see it now. You

1:07:28

can find us at daily Zeitgeist on

1:07:30

Twitter, at the daily Zeitgeist on

1:07:32

Instagram. We got a Facebook fan page

1:07:35

and a website, Daily ze guys dot com. Worry post episodes

1:07:37

and our footnotes. Thank

1:07:39

you so much. I don't really have any

1:07:41

tweets that I've liked because I haven't been

1:07:44

on Twitter or social media, just kind of an ongoing

1:07:46

experience. Uh, in preserving

1:07:49

preserving my emotional state. Shout

1:07:51

out to you know, the

1:07:53

many articles I read that helped me

1:07:56

nudge myself in this direction because

1:07:58

I realized I have so much thoughts

1:08:00

are not consumed by what I think I'm about

1:08:02

to see on social media. It's what a difference

1:08:05

that makes. But shout out to everybody if you want

1:08:07

to follow me on Twitter, because I go there occasionally. I'm

1:08:09

not gonna lie, but just not like regularly.

1:08:12

At Miles of Gray, Twitter and Instagram.

1:08:14

Uh, maybe I just post stories

1:08:16

on Instagram. You know, we'll see what happens. I don't know

1:08:19

a tweet that I like, don't know, but I

1:08:21

will say this love to everybody

1:08:23

who's listening to this show and to

1:08:25

this artist that we're going to ride out on. We

1:08:28

are going to go out on a track by a

1:08:30

band called Beak, and then

1:08:32

it has like the greater than symbol,

1:08:34

so it's almost like a little beak, you know, alpha

1:08:36

numerically. Now, this band it's

1:08:38

like members from like Portishead or in this

1:08:40

band. That's why I like it, because I love Portishead

1:08:43

as a group. Uh. This is where they just kind

1:08:45

of do their own thing. Uh,

1:08:47

just just really

1:08:49

atmospheric stuff. It's like got rock

1:08:51

elements like reggae

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and in certain tracks. This is

1:08:56

a track from Beak called ken

1:08:58

k E n N and it's got like it's

1:09:01

dark rocky, but it's got

1:09:04

class to it. I don't know. This is just something you have to listen to

1:09:06

if you like the idea of people from portois Head

1:09:08

splitting off to start their own band, it's like, just by

1:09:10

then this is for you and

1:09:12

with that, start your week off on that one.

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Thanks for stopping bye, We'll keep you updated

1:09:17

on Presidents State I

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guess, and all that, and until

1:09:22

next time, or until trends later today, we'll see

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then. By hy