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Alright so back in the

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Bojangle studio and usually we

2:05

have the winter call in.

2:27

Dan Larson is traveling today so

2:31

we got the other winner Chris Busher.

2:35

So I wouldn't call him a winner. Say

2:37

again? I wouldn't necessarily call him a

2:40

winner in this situation. I'd like you to say that

2:42

to his face. Well I mean hey I was

2:44

rooting for Busher but he didn't win the race.

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Let's try to be nice to our guests. You're

2:48

right. Hey I love Busher. I love Busher. Yeah

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okay. Alright that's

2:55

okay. I

2:57

mean hey for

2:59

a second we all thought the guy was the winner.

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I know. Yeah. And

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you're lying if you say otherwise. The

3:06

pylon said it, the tramponder said it. That

3:09

was a very short time where there was

3:11

a universe, a reality where he was the

3:13

winner and then

3:15

he wasn't. Let's

3:18

get into that. I mean let's talk about it right now. Conversation

3:20

has already happened you know we're

3:23

72 hours or whatever beyond all

3:25

of that. I think

3:27

Jeff Gluck and his crew did a

3:29

great job of sort of explaining timing

3:32

lines, painted

3:34

lines on a racetrack, start-finish

3:36

lines, NASCAR's camera and

3:38

all of the procedures

3:41

that go into that. And

3:44

you know we can talk to

3:46

our guests tomorrow, Elton Sawyer about

3:48

their whole processes at the

3:50

end of that race right? This was I

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mean my experience I think was really similar to

3:55

pretty much everyone else's. I'll be surprised if anybody

3:57

had a different experience than me but. they

4:00

crossed the finish line,

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I thought visually watching it live, the 17,

4:05

was the first car to the line, kind

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of goes to show, man, it's good that

4:09

you got that camera because what I

4:13

saw isn't what happened. Larson

4:18

got to the finish line first. There's

4:21

kind of two finish lines. There

4:24

was the one that somebody

4:28

painted a little extra finish line and then

4:30

there was the original finish line. Did you

4:32

all see that right? They cut it a

4:35

little fat. Yeah, like the apron didn't have

4:37

the line painted. It was

4:40

almost as if they painted that line and

4:42

somebody came by and added a little extra

4:44

to the start finish line of Larson's team.

4:46

That was like an addition. The abstract version

4:48

of a finish line. Did you ever see

4:50

one of those houses, nice house,

4:52

and then it had this like addition on the side

4:54

of it? It's not even the right, it's not even

4:56

the same siding. You know,

4:59

it's obvious like add on

5:01

and it looks terrible. So that's

5:04

what that looked like. Anyhow,

5:07

you know, I think the 17s won the

5:09

race and I'm like, dang, you know, I

5:11

didn't think Busher was going to get it

5:13

done this year. Remember? Yes.

5:17

Guy's surprising the hell out of me. Here he is. Run

5:20

good all day and then messed

5:22

around and won that race. Seconds

5:25

later, you know, we're all sort of realizing

5:28

that NASCAR's decided that the 17 has not

5:30

won the race. And

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now all, I mean, my mind goes into,

5:35

well, how is that possible? I literally just

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watched him get to the finish line first.

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I'm assuming, I'm not there, but

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I'm assuming timing and

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scoring said the 17 won. So

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are we not going by the damn transponders?

5:50

How are we not doing that? Right?

5:52

What is this evidence that NASCAR has that

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says that the five is a winner? And

5:57

then, you know, we go back and see the phone.

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finish and the five

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is actually ahead they slow it down on television

6:04

you can see the fives just a little bit

6:06

of further ahead of the 17 so it's

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it's a it's a crazy thing man what

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I saw in live TV

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what I saw as it was happening

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was not really what happened because

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as they slow it down and then we see the

6:20

pictures you're like wow okay yeah the five is ahead

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and I saw Denny's comments

6:27

on his actions

6:30

detrimental he's he

6:32

said hey man you know let's get these you know

6:34

start finish line is fixed what the hell you know

6:38

will we ever come down to a

6:40

finish like this again maybe

6:43

not but if we do

6:45

let's make sure that the start finish

6:47

line doesn't look like this right because

6:50

yes NASCAR is gonna get it right there's

6:52

not gonna be any debate about the winner

6:54

but the optics of the start finish line

6:57

being painted funky is

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is not good right so

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shame on you can't shame on you

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can't move freeway yeah get it straight

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love your barbecue get your shirt finish

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line figure it out right and

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so otherwise man I was really happy with how NASCAR

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handled all that and I thought

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that our media Jeff Gluck and everyone

7:16

else did a really good job of sort

7:19

of explaining what went down and

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not adding fuel to the fire in

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terms of like who this is BS

7:25

you know it was a great moment

7:27

closest finish in history we

7:30

ought to celebrate that is anybody feeling

7:32

differently about that not at all I'm totally with you

7:35

on that I had no problem with the explanation of

7:37

why Larson won and all of that but I'm like

7:39

man it should

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just be easier to understand I guess the win for

7:43

the viewer because yeah you know I don't want to

7:46

have to go search for that later on Twitter to

7:48

see oh well then now I can understand why Larson

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won now no paint the line straight get a camera

7:52

that's clear enough to see I you know I don't

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know so I do I

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am a little bit surprised that there

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is a difference between I guess

8:03

start finish line, timing lines and

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a camera. Right. Right.

8:08

And where the line that the camera creates, right?

8:11

So that camera is set up straight across from the

8:13

start finish line over on Pitt Road high up over

8:15

the top of anything that could obscure the view

8:19

of the cars coming by and

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that camera has a line

8:25

that's the official line,

8:27

right? And does

8:30

it match perfectly with the start finish line?

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Probably not considering the start finish line

8:35

is irregular, right? And

8:38

it's very irregular in this case. And

8:41

so, you know, was it the first

8:44

bit of paint? Is it that second part

8:46

that the 17 is racing to? That

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part to me didn't

8:53

ever, that part didn't, you know, the

8:57

difference between scoring loops which

8:59

are not right on top of the start finish line,

9:02

right? They're either before or after. The

9:04

camera and the start, all of those things

9:06

not synced was a bit of

9:09

a surprise to me, something that I guess I

9:11

should have known about our sport. It

9:15

didn't matter to me. It did not

9:17

matter to none of us until we found

9:19

ourselves in this position where we're basically having

9:22

a .001, you know, finish,

9:26

right? So do

9:28

we have to worry about this going

9:30

forward? Probably not. But

9:32

it's interesting that, you

9:35

know, we've been watching races forever thinking, man,

9:38

you know, when you're a kid and you're racing on foot, there's

9:40

a finish line. There's a line in the sand,

9:42

whatever, right? A line's a line.

9:45

That's what you race to. But we're not

9:47

really racing to what that visual paint and

9:49

line on the racetrack, right? But

9:51

there are moments during the race

9:53

where we use that

9:57

line, right? For

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example, like under a pit cycle, if the caution comes

10:02

out, are you ahead of the line when the leader

10:05

crosses it? There's a

10:08

couple scenarios where the

10:10

line is in play. And

10:14

so it's interesting. I guess we could

10:16

talk to Elton about that tomorrow a little bit. But

10:21

pretty crazy finish. Great

10:23

for the sport. I'm happy. Um,

10:28

you know, there were a lot of cars coming late with

10:30

tires, a couple of late cautions set up.

10:33

Pretty interesting strategy there. Watching

10:36

the in-car, if you get a chance, go

10:38

on social media and watch Kyle Busch in

10:40

the last several laps. He's on board. Pretty

10:42

spectacular. That looks like a lot of fun.

10:44

I thought the fuel mileage race that was

10:46

playing out was pretty interesting. It was getting

10:49

interesting. Yeah. Without an overtime finish, it still

10:51

would have been a good finish, I think.

10:53

I think the Boos did a good job

10:55

of letting us know they were saving. What

11:01

I like to hear is

11:03

that they're all saving. They

11:05

all need to save. Who's saving enough?

11:08

And then there's guys that don't need to save

11:10

and they're coming like true ex. Right. Right. And

11:12

so that was so

11:14

helpful to raise

11:16

my anxiety and

11:19

anticipation, right? That's what, you know, brought

11:22

a lot of good emotion into the end

11:24

of the race before we had the cautions

11:26

that ultimately set up

11:28

a different finish. It

11:31

seemed like Chris Busch, man,

11:34

was so disappointed

11:38

by that finish. I

11:40

would be, especially when you thought you won the

11:42

race. Yeah. Like you have all that elation,

11:44

oh, it's over. They called it and then, nope,

11:46

it's not yours anymore. Yeah. I

11:49

wonder, you know, you'll have races in your career

11:51

that you

11:54

don't get over. You

11:56

just don't. And I have a

11:58

handful, right? I think 15

12:01

Talladega. Yeah with the gono there and all

12:03

that The

12:06

other Caledegra we talked about the

12:09

other Talladega with Jeff

12:11

Gordon Right same sort of scenario caution comes

12:13

out while we're in the act of passing

12:17

and it's like man You know, I still ain't

12:19

over those. You know, I still

12:21

don't feel like That

12:25

Played out the way it should have and that

12:27

I feel like I got you

12:29

know the end of the stick I Wonder

12:32

if he will feel like I don't

12:34

know how he can I mean he got you know Got

12:37

beat to the finish right? Yeah, he looked

12:39

it was a legit deal He

12:41

didn't get like screwed over by something outside

12:44

entity, right? But I wonder if that'll

12:46

be a race That sticks

12:48

in his gut for for a long long

12:50

time not to mention It's the

12:53

closest finish in history. So he's probably gonna see

12:55

a replay or two. That's it. Yeah

12:57

at a time as well right point He

13:00

won't get a choice in terms

13:02

of forgetting that one or putting

13:04

that one behind him Yeah, I

13:06

saw a stat somewhere that said that this is his first

13:08

top five at a mile and a half ever Dang

13:11

like in the cup cup series or That's

13:14

that's why I swear I saw a statistic on

13:16

it. I mean, so that's pretty I

13:18

mean for him to think man I'm not really Necessarily

13:21

quote-unquote good at these tracks and I'm that far

13:23

away from winning it like something that I've struggled

13:26

with gosh That's gonna be

13:28

heartbreaking plus another heartbreaker is it

13:30

was inches away from Ford breaking

13:32

their streak of winless races

13:35

I think this is now their worst start

13:37

since 2010 where it

13:39

took them 21 races to

13:41

win their first race in August So

13:44

yeah, yeah, Matt Weaver said Chris Busher does not have

13:46

a single career top five finish on a mile and

13:49

a half until Sunday Wow, what

13:51

a stat? you

13:53

know Kansas delivers once again and We

13:57

are reminded once again great

14:00

the next gen car is on the mile

14:02

and a half and

14:06

fans are calling for more

14:08

mile and a half how do

14:10

you feel about that I'm good with it I

14:13

would I'm calling

14:15

for more mile and

14:17

a half if you're talking

14:19

about the roval going away and Charlotte

14:21

roval Charlotte oval going back to races

14:23

a year I was never

14:25

a fan of the roval listen me and

14:28

Marcus are pals but I've told him to you

14:32

know in person to his to his face

14:34

I'm like hey not gonna not

14:37

gonna love that one fans love it yeah

14:39

you know that's if

14:41

you love the roval I'm sure maybe you guys may

14:43

love the roval I don't know but that's

14:45

great I mean it I don't you know

14:47

I don't control what schedule is but I

14:50

won't miss it if it goes away and

14:54

I think that Marcus is smart he'll

14:56

shelf if I put no Marcus he'll

14:58

shelf the roval and

15:00

take advantage of this popularity that this next gen car

15:03

has on the mile and a half I

15:05

feel like that you know we

15:08

got the roval because of how bad the

15:10

product was at Charlotte it's terrible

15:14

and so you know he had to do

15:16

something and he comes up with this great

15:18

idea and out and the roval was good

15:21

out of the gate in the same

15:23

vein that racing at

15:25

the Coliseum was cool the first time but

15:27

for me after after one

15:30

or two I'm done and now we have

15:32

a car that's so incredible in the mile

15:34

and a half I think he has to

15:36

try to capitalize on on

15:39

the opportunity there for what it

15:41

means to his racetrack financially to

15:44

go back to two dates at Charlotte so I'll

15:46

be surprised he doesn't do that but I

15:48

haven't talked to Marcus about that you know if

15:50

you guys heard any rumblings about Charlotte I

15:53

mean the last I heard I thought it was

15:55

gonna go away this year yeah and then they brought it back

15:57

so maybe I don't know I feel like it's on the child

16:00

I'm with you, I'm not a huge fan of

16:02

it. It's not the roval's fault, it's just taking

16:04

away from a track that would

16:06

be so good, right? So it could maybe

16:08

exist somewhere else, but I don't know. I

16:10

don't know why, but I have a hard

16:12

time with a lot

16:15

of our historical tracks changing

16:17

or losing dates to something new.

16:21

And that's part of my personality,

16:23

I think. I've always been a traditionalist

16:26

and have

16:29

a hard time with the

16:31

new cars when the COT comes in

16:33

or Gen 6 and the next gen. I

16:40

mean, there was any

16:43

kind of arrow change or wings and

16:45

splitters and all those things. Race

16:49

tracks changing, Charlotte going to

16:52

the roval. Going

16:54

to Chicago even. I

16:57

mean, I thought I was anxious and

17:01

excited about a street course, but having

17:05

to, I guess when we lose

17:08

something that's been a historical part of our sport

17:10

for a really long time in terms of a

17:12

facility or race track, it's

17:16

getting harder for me to be

17:18

happy about that or be excited

17:20

about that. When

17:23

we had a really tough race at Richmond a

17:25

couple of weeks ago, I said,

17:28

hey man, we're gonna probably lose Richmond to

17:30

a road course and now the rumor is

17:32

we're probably going to Mexico. It's

17:37

frustrating for me because there

17:41

ain't nothing, there's nothing wrong

17:43

with Richmond. And

17:46

we're gonna leave Richmond to go racing in Mexico.

17:51

We're gonna leave all

17:54

these traditional ovals to

17:56

go race a road course. You know, we

17:58

went to... Chicago and ran

18:00

a street course we're going to go to probably

18:02

going to go to Mexico we'll

18:05

have to see. NASCAR seems really

18:07

excited about being able to go

18:11

into either Mexico, Canada,

18:13

Montreal even

18:16

overseas right even

18:18

if it's a and it's likely a road

18:20

course every time there's not a lot of

18:22

ovals outside of this country right and

18:25

so they're excited about

18:28

taking this product in front of

18:30

a national or international

18:32

audience. I get that

18:34

that's amazing for our sport to be able

18:36

to go into a different country and compete

18:38

and show them you know the

18:40

NFL does it and

18:43

and obviously f1 races all over the

18:46

world. NASCAR wants

18:48

to achieve that. NASCAR wants

18:50

to to be

18:54

big enough and successful enough for

18:57

it and

18:59

its race teams to be able to travel outside

19:01

of this country and have have amazing events. That's

19:04

going to most likely be road course

19:07

racing and man we have

19:09

enough. We have enough if we

19:11

didn't have many road courses it wouldn't bother me that

19:13

much but we got a lot and

19:16

what's whittling away one of

19:18

my favorite things short track seems to

19:20

be the because the mile-and-a-half package is

19:23

so great we're going

19:25

to try to add a couple more of them somehow

19:27

yeah you're going to try to shoehorn one or two

19:29

more of those back into the schedule. Road

19:33

courses are an opportunity to

19:35

race outside of this country Mexico City

19:37

Montreal wherever else they may want to

19:39

go Brands Hatch who knows and

19:42

what so what's got to sacrifice is our

19:44

short tracks which the package is not good

19:46

right now so it's it's

19:49

a easy for the industry

19:51

to say well

19:53

let's not go there if the pack if

19:55

our you know for packages are good or

19:57

our short track packages and exciting our fans

20:00

are not enjoying it, you know, it's

20:03

the one that's gonna sacrifice that's I'm

20:06

a short track guy man, I love short tracks this

20:09

isn't gonna bother everybody, I get that, this is gonna

20:11

be a problem for a lot of people I get

20:13

that, but that's

20:15

tough for me we certainly can't, I mean

20:17

this is a time where like you said

20:20

we're focused so much on the mile and a half, I

20:22

saw a tweet yesterday, oh just more mile and a half

20:25

to get rid of the short tracks like we can't neglect

20:27

well the short tracks, like we have to work

20:29

on fixing the problem versus just solving

20:31

it by throwing another mile and a

20:33

half schedule if you're a short track

20:35

fan like me even

20:39

if you're short, so if you're a short

20:41

track fan like me I

20:43

think back, I don't

20:45

know, five, eight years ago when the short tracks were

20:47

the best thing going and

20:50

there was not a lot of excitement about adding more

20:54

and so even when short tracks are good they

20:58

sort of get the short

21:00

end of the stick in terms of being

21:03

a part of any kind of, you know, growth

21:08

right, they're not

21:10

building new short tracks, of course they're not building

21:12

any new tracks but there

21:16

was a moment where, man, we were racing

21:18

we had a couple big moments

21:21

at Martinsville back to back year

21:23

over year in the playoff

21:25

race and I'm thinking to myself, golly

21:29

man, if we could have this

21:31

type of thing happening more

21:34

often our

21:36

sport would be way better off, way more, there

21:38

would be way more conversation and excitement around it

21:42

because the mile and a half at that point, I'm talking

21:44

five or eight years ago, weren't very good and

21:46

so we'd have to wait for another short track

21:48

race for something to pop something

21:50

crazy to happen and drivers to be mad

21:53

at each other and there'd be drama and

21:56

I'm thinking, man, if we had that more often,

21:58

more short tracks, creating more drama Maybe

22:00

that drama would lead into creating some

22:02

problems and exciting moments on the other

22:05

racetracks that where the product is struggling

22:07

Mm-hmm. And so if

22:09

you look back at the schedule from let's just say 1986 87 There

22:13

was a lot of short tracks on the schedule. We

22:16

were going to four short tracks more often there's

22:19

a lot of rooting and gouging beating and banging

22:21

that would tend to feud and

22:24

simmer and and and and and And

22:27

stay hot throughout the year those those rivalries

22:30

and frustrations bled into all the other events

22:32

no matter whether it was a mile and

22:34

a half or whatever and As

22:37

we as the short tracks whittled down a lot of

22:39

that kind of went away But

22:41

whenever we would go back and the short track package was

22:43

really good a couple years ago We

22:45

still had those moments that would remind you

22:49

Of what the short short track package could be

22:51

or what the short track racing to this series

22:53

could be I do believe that we will Get

22:55

it back in terms

22:57

of a great product at the short tracks,

22:59

but We'll be going

23:02

to one or two less short

23:04

track races per year By

23:06

that point and I doubt when that product does

23:08

return to the short tracks Whether

23:11

I doubt short tracks will be added

23:13

back to the schedule. So it's like

23:15

this long form sort of

23:19

Regression of short track racing

23:22

as a part of the

23:24

NASCAR elite cup series And

23:26

there's this growth of short tracks. That's

23:29

been sort of linear and steady I mean

23:31

a growth of road courses that's been linear

23:33

and steady into the schedule infused

23:35

into the schedule Year over year,

23:37

I doubt that you know, Talladega and Daytona

23:39

are really going anywhere anytime

23:41

soon And the mile

23:43

and a half seem to be secure for the moment, right? And

23:46

so it's like short tracks are just kind

23:49

of slowly just moving out, you know, just

23:51

slowly moving away I

23:54

know that Wilkesboro came back. I'm

23:56

thankful for that But

23:59

it Right now, it's only

24:01

an all-star race. There's no points

24:03

races there. It's not been entirely

24:06

embraced. It's

24:11

still on its way back, right? It's

24:13

not all the way back yet. All the way

24:15

back is a points race, a

24:17

400-miler. That's

24:20

all the way back for Wilkesboro. And

24:24

with the way this short track package is, that's

24:26

another frustration for me, or another fear, I guess,

24:28

for me, is what

24:31

does that mean for, what

24:35

does the current state of short track racing mean

24:39

for Wilkesboro for five or 10 years?

24:42

What are your thoughts on, it was, it

24:45

came up on the broadcast this past weekend

24:47

that Bowman Gray could be making a return.

24:49

If you're looking at where could that fall, maybe the

24:52

clash is in the spot for it. What do you

24:54

think about that? I think that that

24:56

is what they should have done. Oh,

24:58

instead of LA? Instead of LA. Don't

25:01

let that be the sound bite, all

25:03

right? Because listen, what I need to

25:05

say is this, right? Much like, and

25:10

I think I just did, much like the

25:12

Roval was great the first time, so

25:15

was the Coliseum. Sure. Yeah. That

25:17

was cool, right? And I

25:19

know they have a contract, and there's

25:22

legalities and reasons why we kept going

25:24

back. You can't just say,

25:26

oh, okay, I think one was enough. Let's

25:28

be done. They can't, they've

25:30

already signed agreements and so forth for

25:32

that to do more than just one

25:35

event. But in

25:37

a perfect world, if you just could do anything you

25:39

wanted, you would have went to the Coliseum

25:42

and said, you know what, we're not gonna top

25:44

that. That was cool. We're not gonna top that,

25:46

but let's go somewhere else. And

25:48

Bowman Gray would have been the next logical place

25:50

to take it. I

25:53

mean, there are other great ideas, other

25:55

places to go with the Clash. The

25:57

Clash needs to stick around. I

26:00

mean at this point it's never

26:02

going to be what I want it to be and

26:04

that's 20 lap race at Daytona. That's

26:07

what it ought to be. That's what it always, that's what it

26:10

was intended to be. It's probably

26:12

never going to ever get back

26:14

to that original form,

26:16

right? That was so perfect.

26:21

But if it's going to continue, yeah,

26:23

let's go to Bowman Gray and let's,

26:26

you know, maybe it's

26:29

got a one or two year run there

26:31

and we end up taking it somewhere else.

26:33

Selfishly I like that Bowman Gray idea because

26:35

that's one that I can go to, you

26:38

know, being local here but that means California

26:41

loses a date which is, you know, tough

26:43

for all those fans out there. That's

26:46

one thing that's like, and you touched

26:48

on it too, like, I mean did

26:50

you see the stands at

26:53

the last clash? I

26:55

mean it wasn't as good

26:57

as the other ones. It was bad. I

27:00

think the only people in the grandstands were

27:02

the spotters and the crew chiefs, all the

27:04

mechanics that traveled out there. Do

27:06

really a whole lot of nothing. Listen,

27:10

I know there's a lot of fans out there. They

27:13

don't, I don't think, I don't think

27:15

that the, I mean if you were

27:17

to give race fans in Southern

27:19

California or the West Coast a

27:23

race, you think they're wanting that? I

27:26

think they're wanting Fontaine. Right. Right,

27:28

yeah. They're wanting something a little bit bigger.

27:33

And that's, I

27:35

feel like that they let us know. Like,

27:39

hey man, the clash was great. Enjoy

27:41

that one, that one

27:43

big, you know, first year but after that,

27:45

I mean it kind

27:48

of ran its course. That's just my

27:50

gut feeling. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just

27:52

thinking in my mind, I was, look, when they

27:54

were talking about doing the clash out there, I

27:56

was thinking in my head, I'm like, bowling grade's

27:59

the way to go. take it there

28:01

why not go to Bowman Gray if you're gonna do this but

28:04

you know I'm that's not the

28:07

best business decision financially

28:09

that is not even

28:11

close to what they're gonna be able to

28:13

accomplish out there and at the Coliseum so

28:16

they go to the Coliseum it's

28:19

it does great that first

28:21

year that first year and

28:23

NASCAR succeeds I'm

28:25

sure it was expensive to some entities

28:27

in the sport you

28:29

know NASCAR spends a lot of its own money

28:31

to invest in itself and

28:34

they probably did there but they're talking

28:36

about Bowman Gray's coming back I don't

28:38

see any other way it comes back other than

28:40

the clash and they're not gonna have a points race

28:42

there it's just not gonna happen right so it's the

28:44

clash or nothing for Bowman Gray and

28:47

it may be we may be talked this

28:49

may be all about nothing being

28:52

Kennedy might be sitting here going I'm we're not even

28:54

thought we're not even thought about that we're

28:56

not doing that but who

28:58

knows I mean there's a lot of conversation about what

29:00

might come back and what you know what might end

29:02

up happening is you

29:05

know what what's going on with Chicago

29:09

is that a you

29:11

know how long can we race in the streets of Chicago

29:14

is that a sustainable thing can you do

29:16

that year-over-year for a long time I don't

29:19

feel like that's realistic you know

29:22

I think that it's so expensive to

29:24

do that eventually

29:27

you know the crowd the

29:29

crowd's gonna level off right after

29:32

after the first couple of years you're gonna lose some

29:34

of the crowd right you got to expect that if

29:36

you're if you're running this

29:38

whole deal the

29:41

crowd is not gonna keep get by me that

29:43

first year you're gonna have the biggest yeah most

29:45

interest and most intrigued and the rain is not

29:47

going to help either well I'm just saying like

29:50

is you know once you start to what's

29:52

the numbers change financially for that for that

29:55

race where do you go from

29:57

there is Chicago lands

30:00

available even. What's

30:03

happening there? They dug that place up, is it gone?

30:05

What? You don't

30:07

know? Oh I don't. Well I hid here on your

30:10

notes. I didn't know if you knew something I did. Well

30:12

it was you know people have been

30:14

throwing Chicagoland out you know the return

30:17

of Kentucky is possible. Chicagoland may be

30:20

in a situation where they probably,

30:22

Chicagoland who knows what it looks

30:24

like. What state

30:26

it's in? The surface

30:28

of that racetrack. Is

30:30

it racable? Right there's a

30:32

nasty bump down in the middle of three or

30:34

four and

30:37

without maintenance and year-round

30:40

you know taking care of is

30:43

the surface even racable

30:45

without some patchwork and improvements?

30:48

I don't know. The location was not ideal

30:51

for Chicagoland. That doesn't

30:54

help necessarily. Why was that

30:56

not a good location? I

30:58

mean Joliet is

31:01

not Chicago. It's not Kansas. It's

31:03

not Kansas City. Kansas literally the

31:05

same distance from Chicago. But the

31:07

argument for Kansas is there's more

31:09

to do around the track and

31:11

you know it's it's a little

31:13

bit more fan-friendly. Joliet is a

31:15

little ways out. So that

31:18

that. What is there to do around the

31:21

track at Kansas? Oh there's like the big

31:23

shopping mall and like there's like a bunch

31:25

of restaurants and stuff places to go. Okay.

31:27

Yeah all right. That's the

31:30

stadium. The other stadiums are over

31:32

there. I think it certainly if

31:35

you're comparing Kansas to Chicago it certainly gives

31:37

Kansas the upper leg. I mean you look

31:39

at Homestead. That's not in Miami. It's

31:41

not even close you know but that's one of our

31:44

most right so it's like. Right but it's not my

31:46

argument was Chicago. Chicagoland's location wasn't

31:48

doing it any favor. What about Kentucky? People

31:50

want Kentucky back? People do want Kentucky back.

31:52

Really? Yeah. Overreaction. Yeah. Such a weird track.

31:54

Yeah I think they're just grasping at anything.

31:56

Is it like oh any mile and a

31:58

half will do. Yes, yeah it

32:01

is Kentucky was

32:03

not Kentucky didn't race good driving

32:05

on Kentucky was not fun Turn

32:08

three that flat as hell entry is just

32:11

weird. Yeah, there's a reason why we don't go

32:13

there anymore Yeah, that's not just because

32:15

the car when we tested there back in

32:17

the 2000s you kind of felt like

32:19

you man Yeah, really there's no track like this.

32:21

I'm not I mean, you know, you can look

32:23

at it You could take it

32:25

you can look at it from Google images. You can

32:27

watch races on TV You can go there physically and

32:30

watch a race and think why it's too

32:32

mile a hat Just it's similar to

32:34

this track. It's similar to that track They're

32:36

all they all have characteristics and

32:38

one of the characteristics of Kentucky

32:40

is entering turn three is super

32:42

flat You and it's just

32:45

you wash down into the bottom of that

32:47

corner And I can't think of another mile

32:49

and a half that has an entry anywhere

32:51

close to that and so and

32:54

then you gained Banking

32:56

exiting for up a hill and

33:00

There was a nasty ass bump at the start finish line

33:02

there too. Well, you couldn't even run on the apron down

33:04

there You knock your name eyes out Fucking

33:07

I was a fly to your head so

33:10

y'all remember Jimmy Johnson

33:12

went down there and hit them hit the ground

33:14

so hard and bounced up the racetrack into brag

33:16

his last It was a big wreck or something.

33:18

So my bottomed out down there. I

33:20

don't remember I'm wrong, but

33:23

there's a lot of drivers that have hit that bump

33:25

on the apron and regretted the hill out of it.

33:27

Yeah There

33:29

was another nasty bump low off

33:31

of four you'd never run down there But if

33:34

you actually did if you know if you had to you're

33:37

in for a rude awakening Terp

33:41

one two is kind of fun, but they had to Get

33:45

funky with it to get them up off the

33:47

bottom right they started there was

33:49

one time I Remember

33:51

I'm rambling here, but there was one

33:53

time I think we went there and they had painted They

33:57

had painted the line for

33:59

the apron a groove up

34:01

the racetrack thinking

34:04

well they won't run below this line if

34:07

we tell them this is the apron they won't run on

34:09

it y'all remember that the

34:11

people who painted the Kansas start finish

34:13

yeah what is with these people that's

34:15

a frickin lines right I think it

34:17

was I think it was they were

34:20

thinking how do we get them up

34:22

off the bottom of the racetrack move the line tell them that's

34:26

apron they won't never run on it I

34:29

think that's what I think that happened at turn we

34:31

need PJ one let's just give me give me a

34:33

can of paint and solve this right now I don't

34:35

know man I'm gonna get my ass chewed on that

34:37

one cuz I'm probably wrong but anyhow

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35:42

the hell are we we're getting the way out

35:44

there you've got some big news

35:47

today oh I do yeah is

35:49

it the worst secret? Josh

35:54

Berry went to Stewart Haas Racing last year that

35:56

was pretty well known okay I'm

35:58

just saying does everybody pretty much know this already? I

36:02

would say alright yeah. Do you want to say what

36:06

it is? Yeah. Alright,

36:09

moving on. I'll be working for Amazon and Turner next

36:12

year. Yeah, we've been talking and

36:21

ready to get this out there and

36:24

I've got to go to New York City in

36:26

a couple weeks to do

36:29

some work for both of them and

36:31

so we knew that that would reveal

36:34

what was going on and so

36:38

we go ahead and have to put the announcement out

36:40

which I think everybody was aware.

36:42

I had a

36:45

great, great run at NBC and I'm very, very,

36:48

very thankful for what they

36:50

did to help me grow and

36:52

improve. I was raw, had no experience,

36:54

wasn't a journalist, wasn't a radio guy,

36:57

hadn't done

36:59

any broadcasting in my life and then a

37:01

couple moments here and there but nothing like

37:07

real work and so I've learned a tremendous amount over the past

37:09

several years thanks to

37:14

the people that I've worked with at NBC

37:16

and I've learned a lot from the people

37:18

that I've

37:21

worked with

37:23

and so I'm going to move on and team

37:25

up with Amazon which is exciting because

37:31

they're kind of new coming at this with

37:33

a lot of fresh ideas but

37:35

I think they know they need to

37:37

stay in that sort

37:39

of comfortable box that we live in. They'll come

37:42

with a lot of cool ideas I think that

37:44

might make things better

37:46

or different in a good way but there

37:50

is this sort of understanding that we

37:52

do need to keep it

37:54

somewhat recognizable in terms of

37:57

what fans expect in a

37:59

NASCAR broadcast. That should be fun to

38:01

see how that all works out and

38:03

what we actually end up putting out on on television

38:07

The racing is going to be amazing. So we'll that's

38:09

going to take care of itself and

38:11

then Turner You know,

38:14

they've been in the sport before They're

38:16

they seem very comfortable coming right back

38:18

in like I

38:20

can put on a familiar pair of

38:22

shoes and so I'm

38:25

it. I'm looking forward to seeing their approach

38:27

as well And it's

38:29

10 races. So

38:31

it's not as much as I was doing in the

38:33

past I mean, I think a half a season was

38:35

perfect. I don't want to work

38:37

a whole year But

38:40

having I'm thankful I guess for

38:42

for me selfishly that we have

38:44

multiple partners in NASCAR

38:47

to be able to work

38:49

parts of the season right and not

38:52

not work an entire year and

38:55

so I'm

38:57

yeah, I feel very lucky because

39:01

Yeah, I get to stay in

39:03

the broadcast booth. I get to continue doing that

39:05

job that I enjoy and I

39:09

look at it like, you know, it's good a little bit

39:11

of overlap in May And

39:13

and maybe a little overlap in August,

39:15

but I look at it is, you

39:17

know June July Amazon's

39:20

June Turner's July and And

39:25

We're gonna have a lot of fun I'll I'll

39:28

uh Amy

39:30

and the girls are gonna be missing me during the summer

39:32

But you know, we'll we'll we'll make up

39:34

for the rest of the year What's

39:37

cool is I love that bleacher

39:39

report is in the game now as well I know

39:41

you're gonna be doing some exciting stuff with them too.

39:43

Yeah, that's one of the things that came to the

39:46

table with Turner and I think

39:49

Amazon as well, but They're

39:51

they're gonna want to create content that

39:53

they can use Some of

39:55

the content we're already creating that they may want to

39:57

access and so So

40:01

we'll see. I've

40:05

had the Bleacher Report app on my

40:07

phone for quite some time now, never

40:09

thinking that I would ever have any

40:11

involvement. So that'll be fun, sort of

40:13

seeing how they do things and learning

40:16

their processes and approach to create

40:19

content and always an

40:21

opportunity for me to learn and use

40:23

that and what I do as

40:25

well here at Dirty Mo Media. So yeah,

40:28

I'm looking forward to it. It's going to, there'll be

40:30

a, and you know, getting to

40:32

meet their talent, getting to meet all the other people that

40:35

work in their sort of

40:37

circle for other sports and so forth. It's

40:39

just going to be a cool opportunity. And

40:43

I can't wait to continue to

40:46

learn and reveal

40:49

more details around what the broadcast looks like,

40:51

what the booth looks like, who's in the

40:53

booth, what the rest of the

40:56

talent will be around, you know, the

40:58

host for the pre-race, what our

41:00

post-race looks like. And

41:03

we're starting to have conversations with Amazon

41:05

and Turner about, you know, how

41:08

we'd love this to look and what we'd

41:10

love to create. And I'm

41:15

hoping that we're checking all the boxes that the fans

41:17

have, right? What do they

41:19

want out of a broadcast? They want, you know, pre-race is

41:21

cool, but they love post-race. They

41:24

want all the interviews. They want to hear from everybody. And

41:27

so, you know, trying to, I'm seriously

41:29

looking on Reddit and social

41:31

media and reading the

41:33

comments about fans and their opinions of broadcasts

41:35

and what they love, what they don't love

41:38

and trying to see how we can put

41:41

together best overall, you know,

41:44

package there. You're trying to,

41:46

you know, you can't do everything and,

41:49

you know, we'll have to see

41:51

what we're limited to. But I'm looking

41:53

forward to it. I think that, you

41:55

know, Amazon, for example, being on, you

41:58

know, Prime and

42:00

they have a lot of, you know,

42:02

not being cable, they

42:05

have different restrictions

42:07

or less restrictions in some areas, so

42:09

it really opens it up

42:11

to be quite different than what

42:14

you might expect when you're watching a cable network.

42:17

So who knows? It's

42:19

a lot for me to learn. I don't know everything just

42:21

yet, but these are

42:24

fun people. Amazon interner, I've

42:26

enjoyed getting to know them, and

42:29

they're confident. They're confident

42:31

that they can do a great job, and I'm

42:36

feeling good about it. Their Thursday

42:38

night football product is really good, so, like, you

42:40

know, coming, they already know how to do live

42:42

sports. It's not gonna be forward to them. I'm

42:44

really excited to see what they have going. Yeah,

42:47

so we'll have more, you

42:49

know, again, we'll have more

42:51

information over the next several months

42:54

about what all that looks like, and

42:56

man, we're gonna be working our tail off. I can

42:58

promise you this, we're gonna work hard to

43:01

make sure that, you know, we're

43:03

doing our job or I'm doing my job. We'll

43:06

put a lot of effort into it, and

43:09

hopefully it comes across. It's

43:11

gonna be funny because we've been doing 20

43:13

races for NBC, right? And we'll

43:16

start off in the middle of the year, and

43:21

it takes probably, for me personally,

43:23

I have a pretty high standard

43:25

of where I think we should

43:27

be as a broadcast. I feel like that we

43:29

really weren't getting to our best

43:32

work until, like, five races to go. So,

43:35

like, took us, in my opinion,

43:37

maybe just me, took me,

43:39

like, 10, 15 races for I

43:41

was like, all right, man, we're

43:43

hitting on all cylinders here. This is awesome, you

43:47

know? And all the broadcasts are

43:49

great, but you would just have these

43:51

moments where you're like, man, I gotta get

43:53

better at that. I gotta get better here. I

43:55

gotta figure this out. I

43:58

didn't, you know, I didn't put enough. effort

44:00

here and I miss

44:02

that right but

44:05

by the middle of the playoffs

44:08

I felt like we really were covering

44:10

it all really well Amazon

44:14

and Turner we're gonna have five to

44:17

five race stretches two

44:19

different teams right you're gonna have

44:21

five races to get it right and you

44:23

can't fool around

44:25

we've got to hit the ground prepared

44:28

running we

44:30

got to be ready and

44:33

I think we're gonna over prepare to

44:35

make sure that we

44:38

don't let we don't end that last race and go man we're

44:40

not even in a groove yet I know

44:43

you said there's there's gonna be more details that will

44:45

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44:47

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44:49

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44:52

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45:03

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45:05

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45:07

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Jeff Burton did that quite a bit with

45:13

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48:33

everybody, calling in

48:35

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48:38

second place finisher, Kansas, Chris Buscher.

48:41

And just want to thank you for

48:43

giving us some time today, Chris. Wondering

48:47

where are you right now? Well,

48:51

I'm in the office at the shop. We've

48:53

been building for probably well

48:55

over two years at

48:58

this point. So it's getting close to

49:00

being done at this time, but I'm

49:03

sitting on my Mac tool

49:05

roll around stool for the shop.

49:09

This is your own personal shop? Yeah,

49:11

yeah, this is at the house here. When you get this

49:13

shop done, are

49:15

you ever going to have a race car in there? I'm

49:19

going to have race cars in here. I don't know

49:21

if they're going to be race

49:24

cars that I can go run on the weekend, but

49:26

I have some of my old race cars that have

49:29

a little bit of meaning to me through the

49:31

years. I've got my first Bandolero sitting back there

49:33

up on a lift. I've got them. Actually,

49:36

when we went to this next

49:39

gen car, I got two of

49:41

the cup cars, my Pocono

49:43

Wind car and

49:45

just one of the random cars that I ended

49:48

up liking through the years. So I've got

49:50

a couple to go in here already. Nice.

49:53

If you could ever race outside of the

49:55

Cup series, what would you go race today?

50:00

Just for fun, I've talked about trying to run Baja

50:02

a lot. I've mentioned

50:04

it to Brendan Gaughan. I know that he's

50:07

got a lot more experience desert racing than

50:09

me. I'd love to go give that a

50:11

shot. Something completely out there, way

50:14

different. I've

50:16

dabbled in dirt racing here or

50:18

there and had an absolute blast

50:21

in weight models and modified,

50:23

but I would love to go try

50:25

and run Baja, give that a go.

50:28

Man. Alright, well let's talk about

50:31

Kansas. You went into that race, we were just talking

50:33

about it here on the show. You were 60 to

50:35

1 to win, which

50:38

are pretty good odds for someone

50:40

making that bet. Came

50:42

so close. Honestly, I think

50:44

you probably had a million

50:46

people tell you this already. I

50:49

thought when I watched it live, the

50:51

17 car had crossed the finish line first. I

50:55

was sure that you had won the race. Now

50:58

as we all watch it back and S car explains

51:00

everything and we go through that whole process, literally

51:03

lasted an hour or two after the race, all

51:06

the social media conversation

51:08

and everything, we learn

51:11

what the true outcome is. We

51:14

also saw your reaction

51:17

immediately after the race, man. You

51:22

were so bombed out. I

51:25

think a lot of people really think

51:28

a lot of you as a competitor, it's kind of tough to

51:30

see taking a

51:32

loss that way. Is

51:35

this a loss I guess that might stick in your

51:37

gut for quite a while because of the way it

51:40

went down? Yes.

51:44

I told everybody, I thought I was going to

51:46

throw up on the way to the airport afterwards.

51:53

I guess when I look back at it, if we'd

51:55

gone across the line and from

51:57

the get go thought we'd finished second. you

52:00

would have been upset about

52:02

it, you'd have been hurt about it, but it

52:05

would have been okay. But to

52:07

be in that, like

52:09

you said, that hour of time or

52:11

really it was that first minute

52:14

that everything was very confusing. We're trying

52:16

to figure out how in the world

52:19

we're getting this answer off of it.

52:22

You know, transponders and timing and score and everything

52:24

are in our favor. Obviously

52:28

the painted line, which doesn't

52:31

really matter, but it's comical right now

52:33

to talk about. But

52:35

to see it all play out the

52:37

way it did, it just hurts. Knowing

52:41

the result now and understanding it, like

52:43

you all said, it's

52:46

not going to make it any easier. You understand it

52:48

now at least, but it's not going to make it

52:50

easier. This one's going to

52:52

hurt for a really, really long time. Some

52:55

of our guys said just don't let it hurt any

52:57

more than six days. Let's just go to the Arlington

53:00

win there and we can put it behind us. So

53:02

we're trying to figure out how to make that one

53:04

work. But this one hurts.

53:07

We finished second at Phoenix and

53:11

the Christopher Bell, and it wasn't even close, right?

53:13

I mean, he just walked away from the field.

53:16

And at that rate,

53:19

second felt good because we knew we needed a

53:21

lot of work to win. This

53:23

one to be that close and not be able to get it,

53:27

it's going to stick with us for a long time. Yeah,

53:30

and I think the unfortunate part is now

53:34

it is taking over the top spot

53:36

in the closest race ever, right?

53:38

The closest finish ever. We have

53:40

seen that clip of

53:42

Kurt Busch and Ricky Craven colliding

53:44

all the way down the front stretch at Darlington, which

53:46

is still probably going to be widely played

53:49

beyond this point because of how incredible

53:51

that moment was. But you'll

53:53

be seeing images

53:57

and videos of this, especially when we go

53:59

back to Kansas. promoting this race,

54:01

right, and promoting how great the racing was.

54:04

So that, you don't deserve that, but

54:07

somehow you'll have to, I

54:09

think it'll be interesting for you, I guess,

54:12

somehow have to come to terms with it,

54:14

right, have to be able to figure

54:16

out a way to live with it. I've

54:18

got races in my own career that we talked about earlier in

54:20

the show. I

54:23

didn't get over and I won't get over. Even

54:26

today, I just feel like that I got

54:28

the short end of the stick and deserve

54:30

the win. But you

54:34

do come out of that race with

54:38

incredible speed. You ran great all

54:40

day. You were aggressive behind the

54:42

steering wheel with your race car. Incredible,

54:45

you know, five wide action down the frustrate

54:47

away, which was awesome. And

54:50

you end up almost winning the race. So do

54:52

you, you know, you have to come away thinking, man,

54:54

you know, that's nice to see our team moving

54:57

in the right direction, at least at the mile and

54:59

a half. Y'all had a lot

55:01

of speed at short tracks and some other

55:03

race tracks. Where do you feel like you guys are right

55:05

now? I really

55:07

wasn't sure exactly what kind of a season to expect

55:10

from you this year, whether you could repeat what

55:12

you had done in the past or

55:15

even improve on that because of how challenging and

55:17

tough it is for operation like you guys have.

55:19

So where do you feel like you are as

55:21

a team? This

55:24

is supposed to be

55:26

hard. You know, we don't want to go

55:29

do anything in competition

55:31

that's easy. You want to challenge.

55:35

And certainly that's what we're trying to figure

55:37

out how to better last year. We

55:39

wanted to fire off this season with what

55:42

we were able to do in the second half

55:44

of last year, let that be our baseline. And

55:48

we've definitely had moments that have shown us

55:50

a lot of light at the end of

55:52

the tunnel. And we've

55:54

had some that haven't been

55:56

where we wanted to be, but we certainly fired off

55:58

this season. Pretty good. We've

56:01

been in the hunt for a couple of these things.

56:05

I think for RFK, I think that's four

56:07

runner up finishes now in

56:10

the first, what was it, 12 races, 11 or 12 races. I mean, that's

56:15

close. Ultimately,

56:18

it's not a stat to write home about because

56:21

the wins are what matters, but we are in the

56:23

hunt for a lot of these things. And

56:26

I think that's what we're internally trying to use

56:28

to measure Kansas 99.5%

56:30

of that race. There

56:33

is nothing but great things for us to pick

56:36

up on and study and figure

56:39

out how to apply forward. And even the

56:41

last bit, the last lap, it's funny to

56:43

learn from. I promise I

56:45

wouldn't do it the same again tomorrow. But

56:48

with that, that was our

56:51

best mile and a half start to finish. I

56:54

would argue probably actually a better

56:56

day for us than our Michigan win

56:58

last year. And for

57:01

me, that's something

57:04

I look forward to as we head into Darlington

57:07

even, but outside of Darlington, getting

57:09

back to some of these other mile and a halfs where

57:11

the first two on the year, we didn't feel

57:13

like we hit it exactly where we needed to.

57:16

And we're struggling with whatever

57:18

it is, whether it's the new

57:20

Mustang and trying to find a

57:22

balance there. If it's

57:24

some of the lull through

57:26

the off season, some

57:31

of the smaller rules changes or tightening

57:33

up those rules, whatever that may be,

57:36

we haven't been where we needed to be on these

57:38

mile and a half. So this one certainly

57:41

was. If we can bring

57:44

what we just brought to Kansas, we

57:46

will win some of these mile and

57:48

a half races. And

57:50

the competition will step up and get better and we

57:52

will too, but it was a huge momentum

57:55

weekend for us. It's

57:57

just, we're gonna see the of

58:00

the part that we don't want to see the

58:02

most but there's a lot of really good stuff

58:04

for us for both of our race cars to

58:06

take forward that you know make us think that

58:08

we're gonna we're gonna have another trophy a lot

58:10

sooner than later. I gotta

58:13

ask you one last question and you

58:15

get to work right alongside a good

58:18

friend of mine and a great competitor

58:20

Brad Kuzlowski. He has

58:23

he's done

58:26

you know and I think I've talked to you

58:28

about this before but I

58:30

know that Brad being

58:33

an owner in this team is is a

58:35

dream come true for him and something that

58:37

he envisioned for himself many many years ago

58:39

something he would want for himself and here

58:41

he is right and there

58:43

you know he's enjoying

58:45

the effort of that and your

58:48

own success has been able to validate

58:52

you know his efforts to become an owner but

58:54

he is also wanting to go to victory

58:56

lane and win a race as an owner

58:58

right as rent a race in this scenario

59:01

and he's getting closer we're starting to

59:03

see where that team starting

59:05

to to really shine in some

59:08

moments. Is that

59:12

is the is the effort or the

59:15

intensity of trying to get Brad into

59:17

victory lane apparent in inside the walls

59:19

of that shop is it is

59:21

it sort of you know elephant in the room

59:24

so to speak not a bad thing but

59:26

is it a bit of a motivator I

59:28

guess for for for RFK and for even

59:30

yourself as a teammate to Brad to try

59:32

to figure out you know he's

59:34

going to get it done it just feels

59:36

like it's inevitable at any moment but is

59:39

the you know the anxiety

59:42

intensity about that ramping up?

59:44

Probably right you know

59:47

you can see the drive the

59:49

passion that he's got for

59:52

for the ownership side and what

59:55

he's been able to do with RFK through

59:57

these couple of years is incredible.

1:00:00

You know, I've been, I've been

1:00:02

under the Roush banner since I

1:00:04

was just before I

1:00:07

turned 16 years old. So half of

1:00:09

my living lifetime, I have been under

1:00:11

this banner. And I've seen it

1:00:13

in the last couple of years come to

1:00:15

a better place than, than

1:00:18

I believe it has ever been. And,

1:00:20

you know, with that, that's a good

1:00:22

start when you talk about culture

1:00:25

and opportunity and potential in a lot

1:00:27

of ways, but our

1:00:29

sport is measured by trophies.

1:00:32

And, you know, obviously last year

1:00:34

was, was really strong for us

1:00:36

and the Daytona win, I'm sure

1:00:39

that there were a lot of hard decisions that

1:00:42

ran through Brad's head in that moment, and

1:00:44

figuring out how to how to win, but,

1:00:47

but also make sure that both our

1:00:49

cars made it back to the finish

1:00:51

line, right. To

1:00:54

be fair, I fully expected to be side

1:00:56

by side with tire marks up and down

1:00:58

both of our four Mustangs there. And,

1:01:00

you know, it just didn't materialize quite that way

1:01:02

at the end. But it's

1:01:05

definitely something that you can see his drive trying

1:01:07

to figure out how to get to victory lane.

1:01:10

It's, and they've been very close to

1:01:12

you, right? Like, like

1:01:14

I said, we've had two runner ups

1:01:16

from each of our teams this year. So we're

1:01:18

knocking on the door. But

1:01:21

you know, it's important to see

1:01:25

what always put in to try

1:01:28

and have this dual role, you

1:01:30

know, on top of top

1:01:33

being a dad and, you

1:01:35

know, having a family too, but and watch

1:01:37

them try and juggle all this is absolutely

1:01:39

incredible. It has assured me

1:01:41

that I have zero interest in owning a

1:01:43

race team going forward. I cannot,

1:01:47

I cannot fathom the time. I

1:01:51

don't have that that kind of ability

1:01:54

to process time like he does. I

1:01:56

give him an absolute ton of credit

1:01:58

in that sense. I

1:02:01

don't want it to have to

1:02:03

feel like I got to work that hard. But

1:02:06

with all that, the results are coming in

1:02:08

and they're very close. And it's

1:02:10

just a matter of time, like you said, that we

1:02:12

will get wins with both our race cars this year.

1:02:15

But we're going to have to talk about it leading

1:02:18

up to that point. And we're going to have to

1:02:20

talk about what it feels like to be that close

1:02:22

and miss first. Yeah. Well, man, we appreciate your

1:02:24

time today. I know you've got a busy week. Get ready for the next

1:02:26

one. You're an easy guy

1:02:28

to root for, always a professional. We

1:02:30

appreciate you here at Dirty Mo Media and the Deljener

1:02:32

Download. Thank you, Chris. Yeah, I appreciate

1:02:35

it very much, y'all. Have a good one. No,

1:02:37

sir. All right, you too.

1:02:40

Can't wait to see what the odds are for Chris Busher

1:02:42

when he goes into Darlington. Won't be 60 to 1, I

1:02:44

bet. No,

1:02:47

I think it's 22 to 1 to start off. Oh,

1:02:49

really? Yeah, with the opening line. All

1:02:51

right, man, it's a lot of fun to talk to him and glad

1:02:53

to have him call in. We're

1:02:59

live on Ask Junior.

1:03:04

This is very entertaining. This is good TV.

1:03:06

All right, hey, everybody. Welcome. Welcome

1:03:08

to Ask Junior. Dale's going to be

1:03:10

answering our questions today. Hey, I

1:03:12

was texting with a high-ranking official

1:03:14

in NASCAR. Oh, wow. Oh,

1:03:17

man. Hey, everybody. Appreciate you

1:03:20

being patient. Welcome back

1:03:22

to Ask Junior. Yeah,

1:03:25

let's get started and see what your guys are up to today. First question

1:03:27

coming from Marcus. They

1:03:29

saw you tweeted that you saw Casey Kane at

1:03:32

dinner last week. They were wondering how long has

1:03:34

it been since you two have spoken. It's funny,

1:03:36

man. Casey's shop's right next to ours here at

1:03:38

Junior Murder Sports. I

1:03:41

see every once in a while his social

1:03:43

media activity. He

1:03:48

might like a tweet of mine or something, and I'll be

1:03:50

like, Oh, man,

1:03:52

there he is. There he is. Isn't that

1:03:54

way, though? I mean, with all your friends,

1:03:56

you know, you got friends, right, that you

1:03:58

don't see all the time. or talk to you but

1:04:00

you'll see them like do something on social

1:04:03

media and go it's almost like passing

1:04:05

them on the highway. Right. Hey

1:04:07

buddy. Yeah. Casey,

1:04:10

I always love to call my old

1:04:12

teammates, my teammates. They're my teammates, right?

1:04:15

It's life for life. Casey

1:04:17

was one of my, Casey

1:04:20

was a great dude, one of my favorite teammates.

1:04:22

I mean I didn't really have any bad teammates

1:04:24

but I always liked Casey

1:04:27

and we had some fun together off

1:04:29

the track, goofing off, having beers and

1:04:31

so forth. He

1:04:35

picked up the Bud deal after I

1:04:39

left the EI and so we kind

1:04:41

of connected on that. And

1:04:45

yeah, I always enjoyed him. Easy

1:04:47

guy to be around. Told

1:04:49

him at dinner he needs to come

1:04:51

race in the cars tour and he said he's down.

1:04:54

He says he wants to come by the shop because he says he hasn't

1:04:56

seen a stock car in a little long

1:04:59

time. So I thought

1:05:01

that was funny. But I would love to

1:05:04

get him in a cars tour

1:05:06

race which we should be able to make that happen. We'll

1:05:09

just have to see. That'd be super cool. That was the three

1:05:11

things I saw on social media when you posted that picture.

1:05:13

It was get him in a cars tour ride, get him

1:05:15

in the 88 and have him

1:05:17

on the download. I tweeted yesterday thanks to everybody

1:05:19

for watching the cars tour race at Ace this

1:05:21

past weekend. We had a lot of

1:05:24

viewers which was great

1:05:26

to see. Thanks

1:05:29

again. The cars tour is a

1:05:32

lot of fun. It's doing well. It's putting on

1:05:34

some great races and people are tuned in on Flow to

1:05:36

see it. That is awesome.

1:05:38

We've got a bunch of people tuning

1:05:40

in from West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Nashville. So

1:05:42

the YouTube chat is moving pretty good.

1:05:45

This one's from the YouTube chat. Rob

1:05:48

wants to know what's the bronze car that's sitting right

1:05:50

next to you right there? This

1:05:53

was a, so they

1:05:55

give the gold, Goodyear gives the gold car

1:05:57

to. the

1:06:00

Cup Series Championship and back in the day

1:06:03

they gave this this car

1:06:05

I guess it's made out

1:06:07

of silver I don't know they

1:06:10

gave this to the Busch Series Champion

1:06:12

and this is the 1999 mmm goodyear

1:06:15

championship trophy so yeah I never

1:06:19

did win a Cup Championship but I grew up in

1:06:21

a house with about seven of

1:06:23

those gold cars and I would go to

1:06:25

the banquet with dad when he won a championship and

1:06:28

looking at that gold car because you're a

1:06:30

kid right you're like what it's a toy

1:06:32

is it a toy man but

1:06:34

it's made of gold and you're looking at it

1:06:36

and they're like the detail in this thing and

1:06:40

how much did that cost right or whatever

1:06:42

it's just that gold car that they still

1:06:44

give away right Blaney has won it's

1:06:48

in a mate it's I think for for

1:06:52

the Cup Champion and growing

1:06:54

up around dad him winning his I mean it's

1:06:57

it's one of the cooler trophies is right up

1:06:59

there with the grandfather clock from Martinsville it's one

1:07:01

of the cooler trophies that you can win in

1:07:03

this sport is the goodyear

1:07:05

trophy from for the Cup Series Championship

1:07:08

that gold car yeah yeah I

1:07:10

think it always looks it always looks

1:07:12

pretty cool and like yeah like you

1:07:15

said the detail on that it's pretty

1:07:17

it's neat pretty impressive let's see this

1:07:19

next question coming from Kyle and

1:07:22

you know we

1:07:24

didn't talk about it last week but NASCAR

1:07:27

said they're gonna use multiple tire compounds for

1:07:29

the all-star race at North Wilkesboro what are

1:07:31

your thoughts on that I hope that goes

1:07:33

well you know I hope that it does

1:07:37

provide some strategy comers and

1:07:39

goers all that stuff I

1:07:42

don't I wonder how I wonder

1:07:47

like when so all right if

1:07:50

I give you a hard tire right and

1:07:54

which I'm probably have to do because brand-new brand-new

1:07:57

asphalt I gotta make sure my tired and

1:07:59

blow out on I don't want you running around

1:08:01

there and lapping 50 below right front tire hit the fence.

1:08:04

So I'm going to give you a pretty good

1:08:06

durable tire and then

1:08:09

I'm going to give you a soft tire that's

1:08:12

going to haul butt for a while but

1:08:16

it might eventually wear out

1:08:18

and slow down and so you can't run it. You're

1:08:20

going to run that when,

1:08:23

right? When are you going to run that? Run

1:08:25

it on probably at the end when it matters,

1:08:27

right? If

1:08:30

it's hard to pass though, which

1:08:32

we usually hate, but if

1:08:35

it is hard to pass you might actually put that

1:08:37

tire on and try to get track position somewhere in

1:08:39

the middle of the race and hope that

1:08:41

you can keep it with your hard tire when it's back on the

1:08:43

car at the end. So that,

1:08:47

you know, we'll just have to see how it plays out.

1:08:51

Right? Everybody does

1:08:53

the same thing. Like

1:08:56

they all figure out what works best. Yeah, and

1:08:58

so we'll have a race where they're all on

1:09:00

the hard tire and then they're all on the

1:09:02

soft tire and when

1:09:04

they're on the soft tire they'll all just go a little faster,

1:09:07

right? Hopefully it doesn't happen that way.

1:09:10

Hopefully somebody goes, I'm taking a chance and I'm putting

1:09:12

the soft tire on early or before

1:09:16

everybody else and

1:09:18

we'll see. We'll see if that works. I

1:09:21

don't think you can keep the tire and

1:09:24

hope that you have it at the

1:09:26

end when the rest

1:09:28

of the teams don't because I don't think you

1:09:31

can, I don't think it'll be so awesome, so

1:09:33

good that you can just drive through the field with

1:09:36

20 or 10 laps to go because you hung on

1:09:38

to your soft tires. I

1:09:40

think it'll, you know, you'll pass some

1:09:42

cars, but not a lot,

1:09:44

not enough to matter. So I think

1:09:47

it might come down to whether you

1:09:50

use the soft tire early and

1:09:52

you try to figure out a way to get track

1:09:54

position that you may hang on to if

1:09:57

you're fortunate enough to rest of the race. This

1:09:59

is like unrelated. But aren't

1:10:01

lap times like way way faster with

1:10:03

a new pavement two seconds two and

1:10:05

a half seconds. That's pretty significant yeah,

1:10:08

and they They

1:10:11

took a big risk when they paved this

1:10:13

racetrack they so aggregate

1:10:17

the ratio of Asphalt

1:10:22

tar and all that versus Crushed

1:10:26

rock or granite or if you're almost if

1:10:28

you're down by the east Or

1:10:31

if you're down by the coast you might get crusty shell Wherever

1:10:34

you are geographically whatever the

1:10:36

most common Stuff

1:10:40

you're pulling out of local granite or local

1:10:42

quarry That's what

1:10:44

they're crushing up and they're putting that into the

1:10:46

asphalt and they

1:10:48

and It's just

1:10:51

kind of filler. It's filler for

1:10:53

asphalt, right? Cuz you're not you're

1:10:55

not gonna it's cheaper right then

1:10:57

just poor and pure asphalt That's

1:11:00

gonna last forever They

1:11:04

used a they used an

1:11:06

aggregate or a ratio that had more

1:11:08

filler more crushed concrete

1:11:11

and particles right and so as they're testing

1:11:13

out there that stuff comes out of the

1:11:15

track you want it to and It

1:11:18

makes the track have pits and divots

1:11:20

and it makes it abrasive And so

1:11:22

this track should age at

1:11:24

a very rapid pace Which

1:11:28

is interesting because y'all

1:11:30

remember When the mile

1:11:33

and a half package wasn't good and they

1:11:35

made Charlotte the roval well they made Charlotte's

1:11:37

roval because the races there were boring and

1:11:40

Everybody ran right around the bottom and the reason

1:11:42

why that track wasn't good then

1:11:46

Is because they just recently repaved it and

1:11:48

the pavement was lasting forever It

1:11:50

wasn't changing color and the reason why it

1:11:52

wasn't change the color because the aggregate was

1:11:54

rubber They had actually used

1:11:56

like rubber rubber recycled

1:11:59

rubber and stuff in

1:12:01

place of like crushed rock or

1:12:03

crushed seashells. And so you're

1:12:05

racing rubber on rubber. And

1:12:07

the track just had tons of grip all the time,

1:12:10

right? And so the fastest way was always on the

1:12:12

bottom. And

1:12:14

they were like, hey man, this

1:12:18

is like the latest technology in asphalt.

1:12:20

We've repaved this track, it's gonna last

1:12:22

forever. And we were like, great.

1:12:24

And then after about five or eight years,

1:12:26

we're like, man, this isn't so great. And

1:12:29

so now we've learned

1:12:31

all this, right? And now they're all like, okay, we're gonna

1:12:33

spend money to repay the track

1:12:38

and intentionally pave it

1:12:42

in a way to where it'll wear out and

1:12:45

age. We won't

1:12:47

get a surface that lasts 30 years, it'll

1:12:49

last 15 or 20. So

1:12:51

we're costing ourselves money on the back end,

1:12:54

but they know that the product on the

1:12:56

racetrack is that important. So hopefully

1:12:58

this works out for Wilkes-Barreau. Hopefully it's around for

1:13:00

15 or 20 years. Yeah,

1:13:05

I agree. This next

1:13:07

question coming from Debbie, what's the secret

1:13:09

to finding the best pre-race bathroom? I

1:13:11

know I've seen this thing happen, the

1:13:13

national anthem happens and all the drivers

1:13:15

make a bolt for the porta-potties or

1:13:17

whatever bathroom is like, what's the secret

1:13:19

when you were a cup driver? To

1:13:22

using the bathroom? Like before the

1:13:24

race, you know? Were

1:13:26

you ever part of that like mad dash, like try

1:13:28

and get to the bathroom before the race? No. Why

1:13:32

would you wanna wait till the last second? Well,

1:13:34

because, well, you would wanna

1:13:36

wait till the last second, Do you

1:13:38

make this question up? No. You sure? Yes.

1:13:42

Okay. Listen, I

1:13:44

mean, it's a thing.

1:13:47

I don't think it's a thing. It is. Never

1:13:49

heard of this. Yes. There's a mad

1:13:51

rush of drivers hustling

1:13:54

to the bathroom before a road trip. I've

1:13:57

seen it. They're not five year

1:13:59

olds. I know but like

1:14:01

sometimes it's hard to find like the right

1:14:04

use the potty talk to talk to PR

1:14:08

Come on Kyle we gotta go use the potty Gotta

1:14:13

go potty before we start do I go

1:14:15

now go now we're not

1:14:17

stopping Are

1:14:22

you lying you better tell me I've

1:14:27

talked to PR reps and some

1:14:29

of them have said they've scouted out bathrooms

1:14:32

for their drivers and like yeah,

1:14:34

okay, I Mean

1:14:36

I'm trying to make sure that's all taken

1:14:39

care of yeah before well

1:14:41

before the

1:14:44

race start I Yeah,

1:14:48

I mean that it in It

1:14:52

the worst thing this is the worst

1:14:55

thing to put yourself through is Your

1:14:59

you know spot say it's like Wednesday or Thursday and you're

1:15:01

gonna go to the racetrack and they're like, oh man It's

1:15:03

gonna be a hot one this weekend What

1:15:06

how hot? 90s. Mmm,

1:15:09

that's and you're like crap That's

1:15:12

no fun. Cuz that's the listen Nice

1:15:15

car racing racing cars is great the

1:15:18

worst part about it and it's bad is

1:15:20

the heat I

1:15:22

mean, this is 125 on a good day We

1:15:25

saw remember font or California

1:15:27

or Chicago Chicago my first

1:15:30

I think it was my first Year

1:15:33

broadcast. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah,

1:15:35

we have a second year No,

1:15:38

this is the first the Bush second

1:15:40

race was yeah The

1:15:42

Xfinity guys got out and all of them were

1:15:44

falling over is 150

1:15:46

degrees inside the cars Awful

1:15:49

that was like the worst I've ever seen it Miserable

1:15:54

and so, you know, you'll you'll hear that

1:15:56

and you're like, oh man. I gotta make sure I'm hydrated

1:15:59

because I've done You drive out in a race and

1:16:01

you start getting delirious, you start getting dizzy

1:16:04

and you start seeing things freaking out, right?

1:16:06

Yeah, you're gonna pass out, you really are.

1:16:09

And so you

1:16:11

don't want that to happen and you'll drink a

1:16:14

lot of water thinking, man, you know, gonna drink and

1:16:16

drink and drink and there's nothing you can do. You

1:16:18

can go to the bathroom right before, right standing next

1:16:20

to the car and you're gonna have to pee again in

1:16:22

the next 30 minutes or 45 minutes and

1:16:24

you're gonna be in the car at that point, you'll be racing. And

1:16:27

so that's the worst part, is like you

1:16:30

know it's gonna be hot, you know you've

1:16:32

gotta hydrate and you hydrate and you

1:16:34

know you're gonna have to pee in

1:16:36

the car and that's not avoidable. And

1:16:39

so, you know,

1:16:41

I think, I don't know, I peed in

1:16:43

the race car probably, I can count on one

1:16:45

hand in my career.

1:16:47

But it's time to bath around, right? But

1:16:49

it happens, those are the

1:16:52

worst. Usually it's

1:16:54

not an issue. Yeah, usually it's

1:16:56

not so, I'm not worried about the

1:16:58

heat and I'm not drinking a large amount of water the

1:17:02

morning of the race, putting myself in a

1:17:04

position where I've gotta, you know,

1:17:06

pee a lot. Great

1:17:09

question. Thank you so much. Really proud of

1:17:12

that one. It's a good

1:17:14

question. Well, I guess follow up, do

1:17:16

you remember specifically when and what lap that

1:17:18

you had used? Yeah. All

1:17:22

right, we got time for one more. Good, let's not

1:17:24

end on that note. I've

1:17:27

been seeing it in the YouTube chat, I

1:17:29

think it's from Joey. Thoughts

1:17:31

on NASCAR ever using like a push

1:17:33

to pass type system that IndyCar uses?

1:17:36

No. No? What?

1:17:39

Get rid of it. I agree, I saw him

1:17:41

ask it a few times. Yeah, not

1:17:44

a fan. Oh man, no. That would be

1:17:46

sacrilegious in my opinion. If

1:17:48

you can't pass them, sorry. I'm not

1:17:50

gonna give you an assist.

1:17:53

Yeah. I'm gonna boost your

1:17:55

pad on the track. How about, yeah. If

1:17:57

they're gonna give a push to pass, just

1:17:59

might as well. give them steering assist. Here let the

1:18:01

car just go through the corner. You just

1:18:03

don't even have to do anything. Just hold

1:18:05

it straight on the straightaway. Right?

1:18:09

Yeah. It's like an oil slick button that shoots oil out the back

1:18:11

of the car. What else do you want to do? What

1:18:15

other driver aids do you

1:18:17

want to give them? I think we need more mirrors. Hey

1:18:19

you know what? Let's get rid of these shifters. Automatic

1:18:22

transmission. Nice. No more

1:18:24

shifting. I think that's

1:18:27

a good idea. I'm all for that. That's right. So

1:18:32

Joey, no. No question about it. This

1:18:36

is all in video games back

1:18:38

in the day. What about automatic brakes? Man don't even

1:18:40

have to match the brakes. I remember that. We used

1:18:43

to pull flying into a corner. We're going to

1:18:45

keep you from hitting the wall. Don't worry. Just

1:18:47

hold it wide open. Everything is going to be

1:18:49

fine. Drivers should get that little LED of where

1:18:52

the racing line is. Oh the driving line. At

1:18:54

some point the driver is not even necessary. This

1:18:57

is what happens sitting on the pit box.

1:18:59

AI NASCAR League. Yeah. Just running

1:19:01

around. Pushed a pass. Hell. Stupid.

1:19:05

Well that answers that question. That's

1:19:08

a good place to end action here today. Maybe

1:19:10

not a good place but that's where we would end it.

1:19:13

We're ending it here. No driver race.

1:19:16

Wait. No, no. That

1:19:18

was a, this

1:19:21

is like an extension to the conversation we were talking about

1:19:23

last week with the camera. Yeah. Right. Boy

1:19:25

that got some people riled

1:19:27

up. Remember that? Yeah. Talking

1:19:30

about the arrow blocking right and their

1:19:33

new in-car camera that's digital.

1:19:35

It's so clear. You can see perfectly.

1:19:38

All of my life we've raced with cars with the

1:19:41

mirror up here and you're like you can

1:19:43

never see good out of this

1:19:45

thing. You can't see the corners of the car.

1:19:48

You can literally just can make

1:19:51

out like a basically

1:19:53

kind of a rough idea of what's going on back

1:19:55

there. And now they have these little cuts even in

1:19:58

the bush cars or extended cars. They had these. little

1:20:00

cuts in the rear glass and

1:20:02

that really screws up the view out of the back

1:20:04

right? And so,

1:20:06

hell that's the way we race forever. And

1:20:09

that was good enough. And now we have these digital

1:20:11

mirrors and all the blocking that happens

1:20:13

at some of the race tracks is

1:20:17

more aggressive and easier to do because guys are like,

1:20:20

if we've even Kyle Busch and all these guys even say it,

1:20:22

hey, I can just look in the mirror and just go where

1:20:24

they could, oh he's going high, I'll just go high. You're

1:20:27

like, why do we want that? This

1:20:31

is such a dumb analogy but it's

1:20:33

like how I feel parallel parking with

1:20:35

the rear view camera. I'm like,

1:20:37

I feel like I'm cheating. I used to have to

1:20:39

do the mirrors and I'm like, it's so easy now with

1:20:42

the rear view camera. I feel like I'm cheating. And when

1:20:44

you turn the wheels, it bends and you're like, you can't

1:20:46

bend. If you can't parallel park now. You cannot bend. So

1:20:48

that's how I feel. I'm like, man, it's got to be

1:20:50

easy just to go up the track, go down the track.

1:20:53

Yeah. Right? Yeah.

1:20:55

So we said, we were like, hey,

1:20:57

we should maybe talk about, have a

1:21:00

conversation about whether we should, you

1:21:02

know, take the digital mirror out. Yeah.

1:21:07

Stay away from there, you know. Some people got mad.

1:21:10

We shouldn't have digital mirrors because our cars

1:21:12

have them. I

1:21:15

guess. Technology. We need it in the

1:21:17

way of technology. Put AC in there.

1:21:19

Apple CarPlay. Radio. Yeah.

1:21:21

Yeah. A

1:21:23

cup holder. Yeah, exactly. Yes.

1:21:27

And how it breaks. Why not? Someone said in

1:21:29

the YouTube chat when they opened the video game,

1:21:31

the first thing they do is put the automatic

1:21:33

brakes on. And

1:21:35

the driving line. That's what

1:21:37

I said. Yeah. You said that. Yeah.

1:21:41

A driver could hit a button and here's the line.

1:21:43

Just race this line. The

1:21:45

perfect line. I've

1:21:48

been playing a lot of NASCAR 15 lately and

1:21:50

there's a redo button too. I would like to.

1:21:52

Oh, there you go. A reverse button. That's

1:21:54

a good way for racing. You got a Bristol yesterday. There should be

1:21:56

a button in the car where the drivers all vote to do the

1:21:58

restart over. You didn't like that one? We've

1:22:01

got 28 boats. Danny jumped it. Boop.

1:22:04

Yeah, we started. Do it over. Yeah.

1:22:08

Let's just go on and on. Yeah, we can

1:22:11

get ridiculous with it. I would

1:22:13

really, I think,

1:22:15

you know, the push-to-pass, they

1:22:20

had things

1:22:24

in F1 where you can lower the change

1:22:26

of rear spoiler, stuff like that. DRS. I

1:22:30

could not. I'm with

1:22:32

you on that opinion, by the way. I

1:22:34

was just asking the question. But yeah, the

1:22:36

less resources you have, the better, I think.

1:22:39

Big one for Lando, by the way. I'll

1:22:42

be honest, though. Remember the

1:22:44

adjustable track bar? Yeah, you could change

1:22:46

it in the car. Oh, yeah. That

1:22:48

would sound good. I liked it. I

1:22:50

liked it, but Danny and a bunch of guys argued that

1:22:53

it made passing harder because a guy could just change

1:22:55

his car. If

1:22:57

you were catching him and you're like, man, I'm going

1:22:59

to pass this guy. He's handling terrible. He could fix

1:23:01

that, right? And then you're like, yep, I'll

1:23:03

pass him. He fixed his car. And

1:23:06

so I understand that argument, but

1:23:08

I kind of enjoyed being able to... There

1:23:10

was weight jackers, you know, in certain cars.

1:23:15

There's always been sort of adjustments. You can do

1:23:17

brake bias and stuff like that. And so I

1:23:19

thought the track bar was sort of in

1:23:21

the same vein for me. So

1:23:24

I didn't mind it as much. I probably didn't

1:23:26

need to be messing with it, but, you

1:23:29

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Pro. Alright it's

1:24:37

time for Dirty Mode Dove. Let's

1:24:40

talk about all the bets that the team made

1:24:42

this week. Alex

1:24:44

Timms joins us at the table

1:24:48

and let's see how

1:24:50

it went man. How'd it go? The predictor

1:24:52

was 5 for 10 so average week

1:24:54

there but he got Kyle Larson for

1:24:56

the winner so that was good. Personally

1:24:59

we saw a lot of people follow

1:25:02

the cash out a long shot strategy and bet

1:25:04

a favorite live and a lot of people hit

1:25:06

on Larson so they liked that strategy. Nice

1:25:09

so did

1:25:12

you pull that? I

1:25:14

was about to pull the trigger on Chastain because he

1:25:16

had a, I could

1:25:18

double my money in the first stage but I

1:25:21

waited because I was like well this is going

1:25:23

to be higher in the second stage. He

1:25:25

fell off and that thing dropped like a rock. So I

1:25:27

made my chance but it was nice to see it could

1:25:29

get as early as the first stage you can cash out

1:25:31

for a nice profit. Yeah Chastain lost his track position and

1:25:33

they were able to get it back. What

1:25:36

about Ford's value? The

1:25:39

value is big there. Busher 60 to 1 to win. Yeah

1:25:43

rightfully so. I mean they've struggled all year but

1:25:45

I mean Busher being 60 to 1 and was

1:25:48

literally right there for the win was crazy

1:25:50

and it'll be interesting coming into Darlington seeing

1:25:53

how their value will change. I

1:25:55

mean the books are not

1:25:57

adjusting to Ford's success right now. Mine

1:26:00

is because they had last week so that could be

1:26:02

a spot to target this week. What are the predictions

1:26:04

for Darlington? Well, it's so hard

1:26:06

to just not go against the favorites, right?

1:26:08

I mean, it's another Hendrick or Hendrick car

1:26:10

won last week. They'll be strong again, but

1:26:14

Darlington is more of a driver's track I feel not a

1:26:16

lot of you know If you're a good

1:26:18

driver and you know, you can just manage the track I

1:26:20

think you can have a good run. So I might target

1:26:22

some of those guys and Ford I mean that the value

1:26:24

is there right now. All right. Well, man,

1:26:26

we hope it goes well I think it'd

1:26:28

be hard not to put a little bit of money on Chase Elliott.

1:26:30

He's got an awesome looking race car Yeah And

1:26:33

I heard he's gonna be wearing some skeleton gloves. Oh, yeah

1:26:35

I heard about that. So that's pretty cool.

1:26:37

That's pretty cool. Yeah, so It'd

1:26:39

be neat if he could take that car to Victor Lane our throwback from 2014 dates on

1:26:42

a 500 victory

1:26:46

Dirty Mo Doe drops every Thursday All

1:26:49

on our dirty mo media platforms. You don't want

1:26:51

to miss it Steve LaTarte Alex

1:26:53

Tims is a professor those guys are gonna tell you everything

1:26:55

you need to know about the upcoming race each week What

1:26:58

are some good bets to make words of good value and

1:27:01

so far so good man. All right. Thank you Tim

1:27:03

sweet. Thanks Yeah Alright

1:27:05

now it's time to talk about the cars

1:27:07

to where Blake McAnlis is going to recap

1:27:10

everything that happened this past weekend at a

1:27:12

speedway a fantastic race I wonder

1:27:14

if Blake will tell us about having to

1:27:16

sing the national anthem. They were

1:27:18

short on anthem singer Blake

1:27:20

volunteers That's amazing. I don't think I have

1:27:22

the guts for that. You wouldn't do that.

1:27:24

No, I would I think I really They

1:27:27

put out in a release the next day

1:27:29

that they were looking for a national anthem

1:27:31

singer Full-time and

1:27:33

he's like man. Maybe I just didn't do a good enough job. I

1:27:36

think I

1:27:38

was like, hey, you're like I was like you're

1:27:40

a serviceable backup quarterback came into the game I

1:27:43

hit the lead won the game for him. You're

1:27:45

not gonna start next week He's never gonna let

1:27:47

you start but you were there when it

1:27:49

matters exactly He can always say I sang

1:27:51

the national anthem at a sporting event. Yes,

1:27:54

that's pretty cool. I think I think I

1:27:56

will never see I think offered I would

1:27:58

I would do it I think

1:28:00

offered I would throw up and just I would

1:28:02

all know Alright

1:28:05

Blake take it away After

1:28:07

a day-long test the North Wales Pro Speedway

1:28:09

a week prior the Z max car store

1:28:11

presented by sound gear headed off to Alamance

1:28:14

County's a speedway on a rare Friday night

1:28:16

occasion as both the late model stocks and

1:28:18

pro late models Look to dazzle in front

1:28:20

of a sellout crowd at the famous 4

1:28:23

tenths mile to start off the action on

1:28:25

a hot and sunny Friday afternoon were 25

1:28:27

in the late model stock car competitors looking

1:28:29

to pencil in their starting spots at a

1:28:32

racetrack Notorious for rewarding

1:28:34

stellar track position at

1:28:36

the end of the session It was

1:28:38

Statesville, North Carolina's Ryan Millington who took

1:28:40

the top honors notching his third career

1:28:42

Thunder Road Harley Davidson Poll award all

1:28:44

of which have been earned in Altamaha

1:28:47

Brendan Queen of Chad McCumby Jacob

1:28:49

Hefner and Cade Brown completed the

1:28:51

top five starters There was

1:28:53

plenty of drama to start off tonight with a

1:28:56

handful of competitors Experiencing some

1:28:58

early problems as Oh trouble

1:29:00

turn one that is Andrew Brady

1:29:03

Engine issues that would appear for the

1:29:05

number one out of Youngville, North Carolina

1:29:09

In a butterbean hanging top on the

1:29:11

outside, but he'll try to get My

1:29:14

that was big that was

1:29:16

a big big saving moment

1:29:18

big checkup there heavy damage

1:29:20

for Connor Hall your Championship

1:29:22

leader move on his part as he was

1:29:24

gonna get squeezed three wide He recognized it lifted out

1:29:26

of the gas to fall in more trouble Dylan

1:29:29

Harville once again sparks flying underneath

1:29:31

that race car Connor

1:29:35

Hall turned around backwards and

1:29:38

a precarious spot there just past

1:29:40

the start finish line and your

1:29:42

Championship points leader having more

1:29:44

issues after a dominant opening half

1:29:47

of the race Millington continued to set

1:29:49

the pace before eventual damage to the

1:29:51

track bar of his number 15 leisure

1:29:53

time Reynolds machine made it a three

1:29:55

car brawl for the lead to the

1:29:57

end Quoppel saw to making it three

1:29:59

wide but doesn't for now. 30 laps to

1:30:01

go. They will look three wide on the first

1:30:03

straight away at 8. Cloppell down to

1:30:05

the bottom. He's in the center of

1:30:07

it. Millington still holding on. That 15

1:30:09

car is good with that much damage.

1:30:11

Alan, it's still holding on to the

1:30:13

lead. Carson Cloppell not going anywhere trying

1:30:15

to come off four, get the better

1:30:17

angle as he turns. Steve is nearly

1:30:19

aligned with Queen as they battle. As

1:30:22

soon as Millington can get out a little bit

1:30:24

ahead of this death, the two in second and

1:30:26

third place battle for Cloppell. End of the race.

1:30:28

Look who shows up. The driver of that A

1:30:31

car now solidly in second position. He's

1:30:33

going after the lead. It is no

1:30:35

way. Cloppell is too good with the

1:30:37

damage that the 15 car has. He is

1:30:39

now sunk. Not the first

1:30:41

degree start, but he's able to get under Millington in

1:30:44

three and four. What a drive that car

1:30:46

has. That car, that 15 car would not

1:30:48

hold the bottom with the damage. The damage

1:30:50

is what has cost Ryan this race, I

1:30:52

do believe, but he is still hanging tight

1:30:54

on the outside. What a move. Carson

1:30:57

Cloppell officially took the lead. It was

1:31:00

a lead he would not relinquish as Carson

1:31:02

Cloppell went on to capture the checkered flag

1:31:04

for his second win in the car's tour

1:31:06

season and third straight at a speedway. Yeah,

1:31:09

I mean it's just hard racing the whole

1:31:11

time. I mean these guys are so

1:31:14

good. All the cars in the car's

1:31:16

tour, it's just crazy how close everybody

1:31:18

is. So to have a little bit

1:31:20

more there at the end was a

1:31:22

huge help. Just can't thank Junior Motorsports,

1:31:25

Bass Pro Shops, Chevrolet, Kaley, L.W. Dale,

1:31:27

everyone at the big shop for all

1:31:29

their help. It was a really good

1:31:31

night for us. Brendan Queen brought a

1:31:33

home in second with Ryan Millington in

1:31:35

third. Bobby McCarty and Chad McCumby completed

1:31:37

your top five, while Roddy Bassett Jr.,

1:31:39

Tatum Lapsovich, Isabella Robusto, Minnie Tyrell, and

1:31:41

Jacob Hefner rounded out your top ten.

1:31:44

The pro late models also took to the track for their

1:31:46

fourth race of the 2024 season

1:31:48

as younger brother to Carson, Caden Cloppell

1:31:51

captured his first maulay polo award of

1:31:53

the season after being the final car

1:31:55

to go out and qualifying. Luke Baldwin

1:31:57

joined him on the front row with

1:31:59

Nick LoDin, Jake Bolman, and

1:32:01

Kyle Campbell setting the fastest

1:32:03

five times. Despite a pair

1:32:06

of cautions in the opening laps, the race

1:32:08

proceeded along without much issue until a restart

1:32:10

with just 32 laps to go. As

1:32:13

they enter the Death Wish Coffee restart

1:32:16

zone, 32 laps to

1:32:18

settle in here in Altamaha, a plumple with

1:32:20

a great jump on the inside, but same

1:32:22

can be said for Spencer Davis as LoDin

1:32:24

on top of the side of the

1:32:26

24 as they hit the outside

1:32:28

wall. Dylan Garter gets collected as

1:32:31

well, and Caution Flag is

1:32:33

out as two of your top contenders

1:32:35

have issues. When all is said and done,

1:32:37

it was Kaidyn Quoppel who was able to

1:32:39

go to Victory Lane after leading all 100

1:32:41

laps. We had

1:32:43

a dominant car here tonight. When we started on pole,

1:32:46

I knew we were going to be pretty good, and

1:32:48

that's exactly how it was. This car really never fell

1:32:50

off at all throughout the whole race, and I was

1:32:53

able to manage a good gap from me to second

1:32:55

place and had to get good restarts, and we were

1:32:57

able to do that and get through at least one

1:32:59

lap clear and then start to drive

1:33:01

away. So we had a really good car. Spencer

1:33:04

Davis, Kaidyn Honeycutt, William Sawalich, and Connor

1:33:06

Jones completed your top five in the

1:33:08

Pro Late bottles. After a

1:33:10

weekend off, the Z-Max Cars Tour will

1:33:12

be back in action with a pair

1:33:15

of midweek race dates as the Pro

1:33:17

Late Model division tackles the freshly paved

1:33:19

North Wilkesboro Speedway on Tuesday, May 14th,

1:33:21

while the late model stocks will do

1:33:23

the same on Wednesday, the 15th as

1:33:25

a part of All Star Week at

1:33:28

North Wilkesboro Speedway. You can join

1:33:30

us at the track or catch live a flag to

1:33:32

flag coverage of the Z-Max Cars Tour presented

1:33:34

by Soundgear on Flow Racing all

1:33:37

season long. Until next time,

1:33:39

I'm Nick McCallis and this has been

1:33:41

your Cars Tour Recap. Time

1:33:53

for the white flag. Alright, dropping

1:33:55

Sunday night was the teardown with Jeff Gluck and Jordan

1:33:57

Miyake and those guys covered all the action for the

1:33:59

Z-Max Cars Tour. from Kansas and

1:34:02

probably if you're still looking for a detailed understanding

1:34:05

of NASCAR's processes that'd

1:34:07

be a good place to look at the teardown

1:34:09

with Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi. Monday,

1:34:12

actions detrimental with Denny Hamlin. Denny

1:34:17

talks about the race, the car, how it's

1:34:19

a great fit for Kansas, all

1:34:21

the things he liked about that and how

1:34:23

he ended up seeing

1:34:25

the finish of that race play out in front of him. Door

1:34:28

bumper clear with Joe Edmonds.

1:34:31

Those guys had a great

1:34:33

conversation around how awesome, again, the

1:34:35

race at Kansas was and

1:34:37

how it differed from another race

1:34:39

that wasn't so great at Atlanta. Those

1:34:43

guys are so hard headed. Plus with

1:34:45

Joel, God, that show is all over

1:34:47

the place. It was fantastic. There's no

1:34:49

telling what happened there. Yeah. Yeah.

1:34:52

They are hard headed. Dropping

1:34:56

tomorrow, Speed Street with Connor Daly and

1:34:58

Chase Holden. I'm on that show as

1:35:00

their guest. We talk a little bit

1:35:02

about what my experience with the Indy

1:35:04

500 has been and a

1:35:07

lot of other things. Fun conversation with

1:35:09

those guys. So coming out tomorrow and then

1:35:11

Thursday, Dirty Modo with Steve LaTarte. Going

1:35:14

to be previewing the upcoming race this weekend,

1:35:16

telling you all the great bets and good

1:35:18

values. DJD

1:35:21

Reloaded will be out on Thursday as well.

1:35:23

Carla and the team will

1:35:26

have a lot to talk about. I imagine they may pull

1:35:29

from our episode of Dirty Air. I'm sure

1:35:31

there's something we say today. Who could they

1:35:33

call? I don't know. And

1:35:36

tomorrow, as I mentioned, Elton Sawyer is our guest.

1:35:38

Now Elton Sawyer, I want

1:35:41

to tell you, I know everybody's going to

1:35:43

be wanting me to ask Elton

1:35:46

about the current state of NASCAR and a

1:35:48

lot of things going on in the sport.

1:35:50

I've got a short track package. What

1:35:52

are we doing to get that better? I've got some questions

1:35:54

like that on my mind. But this guy grew

1:35:57

up racing late model stock cars.

1:36:00

So at Langley, which I was going

1:36:02

to as a kid, my mom lived

1:36:04

up in that area, and

1:36:06

he raced against a couple of people that I watched

1:36:09

or knew about. So I

1:36:11

wanna talk about his career, also him going

1:36:13

into Xfinity series and eventually the Cup series

1:36:15

marrying Patti Mowese as well and how that

1:36:17

was like having to race Patti for

1:36:20

so many years. So there's a lot of good

1:36:22

things to discuss with Elton and hopefully we'll

1:36:25

get the bottom of the direction we're gonna go to

1:36:27

fix this short track racing, which

1:36:30

we all want. All

1:36:32

right, it's gonna be a good show tomorrow. Y'all tune in, we'll see you

1:36:34

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