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is correct. But

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we did make some good content

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last segment when this actually happened

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in real time. Chris Cody reached

1:06

an octave we did not think

1:08

that could be reached by Chris

1:11

Cody while defending himself against a

1:13

case of being irrational. That

1:23

is how I would imagine irrational would sound

1:25

if I was creating a show for kids

1:27

with a cartoon meant to symbolize irrational. That's

1:33

the kind of content we make around here. Mike,

1:36

thank you for joining us. Were you heartbroken

1:38

last night? I'm

1:40

sorry, were you winded? Heartbroken. No,

1:42

no, my bad. About the Bruins? Were you

1:45

scared last night as you were watching Sacramento,

1:47

your team, your adopted team, before that game

1:49

you did not have confidence that they were

1:51

going to win that game against Golden State.

1:56

Light the beam, Dan-o. No

1:58

Malik Monk. No Kevin Herder. problem

2:00

as the Sacramento Kings dispatched the Golden State Warriors

2:02

1 1894 last night at

2:04

Golden 1 Center. Keegan Murray led the Kings

2:06

with 32 points, including a sparkling 8 of 13 from 3. De'Arron

2:09

Fox chipped in 24. Spot starter Keon

2:11

Ellis provided a key offensive spark going for

2:13

15 and 39 tough minutes as

2:16

the Kings, at least for one night, seemed to have rediscovered

2:18

the high octane offense that made them and Coach Mike Brown

2:20

such a tough out last year. But the real story last

2:22

night, Dan, might have been the seeming end

2:24

of the Warriors' dynasty. Steph Curry had 22 points. Clay

2:27

Thompson was held to zero. That's right, Dan, one

2:29

of the greatest shooters in NBA history. 0

2:31

of 10 from the floor. 0 of 6 from 3 in 32 minutes. Did

2:34

not register a point. As the Warriors crashed

2:36

out of the playing tournament, Thompson, of course, is a free agent at

2:39

the end of the year. Question marks do remain

2:41

about his future with the team speaking to reporters after the

2:43

game. Curry said about Thompson and Draymond Green, and

2:45

I quote, "...I can never see myself not

2:47

with those two guys." This confusing

2:49

use of a double negative notwithstanding, the end of

2:51

the Splash Brothers dynasty could be upon us, time

2:53

will tell. But what matters now, Dan, is

2:56

that the Kings live to play at the Pelicans for a

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chance at the 8 seed in the West. That game is

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on Thursday night at Smoothie King Center in New Orleans. For

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Metal Ark Media, this is Mike Shore reporting live from Los

3:04

Angeles. Dan? I felt like

3:06

that was artificial intelligence. What's the bid here, funny

3:08

guy? Like, what are we doing? It's weird. Are

3:11

you guys reading? ESPN recap. I

3:13

mean, I'm your Sacramento

3:15

Kings correspondent filing a report on

3:17

the game. Right. But

3:20

it was a little dry. We want, you

3:22

know, we need takes. We need, you

3:24

did it. Would you rather my voice crack

3:26

and I do something ridiculous

3:29

like Chris Cody? Is that

3:31

what this is about? Entertainment? You know we're

3:33

rational. Yes. Just throwing a

3:35

little of that in there. We don't need... I'm trying to

3:37

bring some professionalism to this outfit. You hired

3:39

me as a Sacramento Kings correspondent. They played a

3:41

big game last night. I was filing my report.

3:43

I'm sorry. I won't do it anymore. I

3:46

won't provide information for the listeners of this show,

3:48

if that's what you want. Here's a little

3:50

key if you're going to do a report on the

3:52

Sacramento Kring. At the end you have to say meadowlark

3:54

media. It's a long pause. It's

3:58

All the pros do. Yes. Media

4:01

Piano. Playing horrid.

4:03

Thanks for the notes that they say no to

4:06

my reporting. Might. Do you agree that

4:08

the Mph shouldn't be promoting the play offs

4:10

until playoff. Jimmy is in. A.

4:14

Essence said set of that sort of the

4:16

i know you're right yeah I was a

4:18

outing it differently. I didn't say not promote

4:20

it I said use a different flavor this

4:22

is your actual stand on my not answered

4:25

the everyone is just being crazy here not

4:27

respecting me I'm saying is the play are

4:29

crazy for saying someone has not in a

4:31

play out should be feet and of of

4:33

were on Burrow made a play off blank

4:36

commercial with Tatum. I. Did. I'm

4:38

saying that premise is based off play blank.

4:40

That's play up to me. How do you

4:43

have that commercial with that premise? Obviously you

4:45

can promote. The. M B A Playoffs: how

4:47

do you have that slogan used to me is not

4:49

in it. They clearly asked him and

4:51

he said no or something more. He wouldn't have

4:53

done it without asking him play it had all

4:56

it didn't have any play and people in

4:58

it. I'm assuming he was in it and they

5:00

since he's in the play and were like we

5:02

can have Minnick as is not in the playoffs

5:04

fair you're reducing the shouldn't have run that specific

5:07

add unless and until/unless he was a part of

5:09

the actual play. Friends are you're saying you for

5:11

risk to searing what I'm saying and not

5:13

to see same as with the goal would them

5:15

but for them to run this point promo they

5:18

are. They continue their playoffs without Jimmy. Might

5:22

sure? I mean. I. Get, I'd

5:24

kind of see your point. but also

5:26

he's like that. You. Know

5:28

that that? Commercial. Featured

5:30

by a lot of guys who were bigger

5:32

stars than he is in the league so

5:34

it down or know how you comedy those

5:36

had made it to the following year. same

5:38

jealous Alexander's mad about it or saw. When

5:42

it. Always fun You

5:44

decide it's not fair. Mike Marketers been trying

5:46

to tell you about Censor Guilds is Alexander

5:48

for a year and a half. a whole

5:51

lot of people are about to discover him.

5:53

But let's just go back to last night

5:55

mugs your break this down for me. This

5:58

analysis from Reggie Miller to pretty. And. Wouldn't

6:00

drive for the game as a lot of

6:02

people were listening for his astute breakdown of

6:04

what to do in his late game pressurized

6:06

situation. One the great quotes players of all

6:09

time. The

6:11

bottom of us. As

6:13

where is he makes the first

6:15

one europe or in front of

6:17

have seen a second more noise

6:20

a fatal have a for any

6:22

time I ever go home for

6:24

goes to the Susie Mrs Time

6:26

is gonna start as soon as

6:28

it's us or make him both

6:30

see a force and. Yeah.

6:37

That was an insane moment that was

6:39

truly nuts and that, and like I.

6:42

There. Are certainly moments were missing a free throw

6:44

isn't the worst thing in the world for that

6:46

reason. that's not one of those moment like I

6:48

think his brain just for it's doubt it because

6:50

it's like if you hit the free throw the

6:52

game and no matter why thank you know. I

6:54

think he started off meaning to say if you

6:56

missed the first free throw them, do you miss

6:58

the second That's what I thought it was going

7:00

on and on on. Odd about it and that's

7:02

bad production. Radishes I need to get in his

7:04

ear. don't read you. you're wrong. I think they

7:07

did at the end. Any real I read snow.

7:09

they live on air. Good producing would be. Hey,

7:11

you're wrong about this. As soft but that's what

7:13

you have more Rise yeah that's what you have.

7:15

one of the game's greatest players in the booth

7:17

though because he to he explains like these are

7:20

things that they talk about on the bus you

7:22

don't know what it's like playing but I was

7:24

all about that on the boss of a no

7:26

one does lousy was bizarre. He.

7:29

Was bizarre and he ah I think you're

7:31

right I think that he was confusing the

7:33

situation and thinking if you message do that,

7:35

miss the second one or something but a

7:37

how he didn't correct himself or harland and

7:40

correct them something something should have happened. There

7:42

are so that my mouth the part of

7:44

the and where he's like or. Do.

7:46

You make it and game over. Simply recess.

7:49

I thought that as a producer erotic they

7:51

they shouldn't mugshot. The producers told him something

7:53

right towards the end been rapidly. Just tell

7:55

them you could just make the two free

7:58

throws when and began when you lay it

8:00

out like that for me. Rage yes I

8:02

mean a meme has given the break down

8:04

this way of the Miami Heat on Oddball

8:06

and I want to get my shores opinion

8:09

on all of this because there was no

8:11

one in the American media more right about

8:13

what was going to happen in the Eastern

8:15

Conference last year. Then make sure he got

8:18

it be most right on how will all

8:20

of last season in the Eastern Conference was

8:22

going and he seems cartier this year. He

8:24

seems less scared this year and here's a

8:27

me now has and I guess saying why

8:29

he should still. Be scared. If

8:31

anyone should be feeling really good

8:34

about themselves to be the Miami

8:36

heat and particularly because. Many.

8:38

Of the opponents, L C yard

8:40

not unfamiliar opponents right? if they.

8:43

Play. The sixers and they beat the six as

8:45

they get the seventh seed. that me they played

8:47

the Nixon the for some deployed them last year

8:49

a be losing the sixers. That but

8:51

obviously be. The. Whatever carcass

8:54

comes out of bulls are a whole

8:56

hog sites. Then. They play the

8:58

Celtics who they've not only played. Last.

9:00

Year they played three a last four

9:03

years. so psyched. okay and then as

9:05

you progress sort of like all of

9:07

these are familiar foe the nobody here.

9:10

new aura or ago I was never

9:12

seen anything like it before. severe the

9:14

Miami heat I think. confidence. Should.

9:17

Be they're having said that. A Maybe

9:19

we do this without. You know

9:21

a whole lot of drama of it's like

9:23

we've also like elevator broke down and so

9:25

I had to despairs. thirty flights of like

9:27

that's great but no one seed say of

9:29

are now on I'm only taking the stairs

9:31

that doesn't make any sense to fight the

9:34

heater like you know what else? fun last

9:36

year? Let's do it that way. Get. Where.

9:39

Are you on the sure? Ah

9:41

well, I mean. He.

9:44

A Yeah, nobody's a new opponent in

9:46

the East. Yes, They have.

9:48

No. There's no expansion teams that made the playoffs.

9:51

I would he talking about every team knows every

9:53

team in the East. They've all played each other.

9:55

Fairly. Recently the plates or four times a

9:57

year. And also the thing that I think

9:59

as. More salient point about the heat:

10:01

this year, they're not. Quite. The Same

10:03

team Now don't get me wrong I am terrified

10:06

of them. I will always be terrified of them

10:08

as long as jimmy place for that team. But

10:10

if you the reason that I made the prediction

10:12

I may last year was because I watched the

10:14

team. Game. After game after game

10:16

and they were winning games that they had no

10:19

business winning. And. They were winning those

10:21

games with. Only forty for

10:23

forty from the line, or getting

10:25

eighteen steals and only having four

10:27

turnovers. They're not quite that team

10:29

this year lease, they haven't been

10:31

in the regular season. They weren't

10:33

as good defensively in my mind.

10:35

In terms of turnovers, they weren't

10:37

quite as good. Guy. In

10:40

May. In those like super close games late

10:42

in the game they get the key bucket

10:44

they need to get. They win by one.

10:46

Last year they were winning. By.

10:48

One or two or three point over

10:50

and over and over again. they didn't

10:52

have a date. They weren't quite that

10:54

same team this year, so it's not

10:56

that I don't fear them, because I

10:58

absolutely do. But I don't They didn't

11:00

have this like weird. Pixie. Dust

11:02

sprinkled over them for the entire regular season

11:05

like they did last year, and I think

11:07

they're in a little bit of trouble. Only.

11:10

Because they're play and they almost crashed of

11:12

the play him last year. This year they

11:14

gotta go on the road and play Philly

11:16

and beads gonna play and they have not

11:19

the. Sixers. Been great when him

11:21

in play this year. I think the Sixers

11:23

are to win that game. They'll probably beat

11:25

the Bulls are the Hawks, but I don't

11:27

think the Celtics with their new roster fear

11:29

the heat in the way that they might

11:31

have feared that he last year. That doesn't

11:33

mean it's not going six or seven. it's

11:35

zoc gonna beat sphincter tightening in the way

11:38

that it has been the last three years.

11:40

But it's not. It's a white. The same

11:42

level of fear that I doubt it is

11:44

a funny line go to say given that

11:46

Drew Holiday one of those new players and

11:48

last time he played Jimmy. In the playoffs

11:50

we all thought he was going quit because

11:52

he talked about quitting because of what Jimmy

11:54

was doing to Drew Holiday in the playoffs.

11:57

Like the public eye on Gimme Pop a

11:59

publicly talk to. I'm not sure I

12:01

want to be doing this anymore because of

12:03

how Jimmy dragged me. It was to uncommon

12:05

on as states and that's at the center

12:08

of everything they're doing with the Celtics was

12:10

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12:12

can get from Mike Shore, a refresh start

12:14

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12:16

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12:19

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12:56

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13:00

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13:03

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13:05

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13:12

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13:14

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13:16

Mark De Rosa that Pat

13:19

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13:21

Ivory half. Andres.

13:23

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13:41

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13:44

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13:46

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13:48

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is the D'Allebatar Show with the

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Stugats! It

16:12

may be a play in but it

16:14

feels like the play offs have started

16:16

and I don't know whether I'm going

16:19

to be able to lure Tony and

16:21

Billy over to where the Panthers are

16:23

but I hate the first round match

16:25

up for the Panthers because I am

16:27

terrified of everything Tampa Bay Lightning related.

16:30

Of Kucharoff? They are done. It was

16:33

a nice season but it's over for the

16:35

Panthers. It happens every season. They go in,

16:37

they play the Lightning, the Lightning beats them,

16:39

the Lightning plays possum during the season. They

16:41

go in with their chest down and think,

16:44

oh my god we are going to be so

16:47

good this year, we won the Biden Cup and

16:49

then sure enough, boom, bounced by the Lightning every

16:51

single year, the Lightning start hiding players under the

16:53

salary cap, they cheat that way. Why can't the

16:56

Panthers cheat? That's what I don't understand.

16:58

If the other teams are cheating successfully,

17:00

why are you not cheating? They made

17:02

it to the Stanley Cup. And

17:05

what happened? They didn't win the Biden Cup

17:07

this year. First place losers. You

17:10

say it happens every year, I'm pretty sure you just described

17:12

one single year. No, every year the Lightning's are

17:14

foes. I've been hearing about these Lightnings and the

17:17

Kucharoffs and this and that for so long. And

17:19

the goalie, whatever that guy's name is. Exactly right.

17:22

That's another thing. That's another thing. He

17:24

scares me. He's damned in the NHL

17:26

postseason, the Stanley Cup playoffs. All you

17:28

need is a hot goalie. And guess

17:30

who always ends up with a hot

17:33

goalie? The Panthers did last

17:35

year. Until the Knights did.

17:37

They did. The Panthers, this was

17:39

the analysis. Biggie and Knight, Spencer Knight, I've been hearing

17:41

about that cat for how long now? Where's he

17:43

been? Okay, look, we can do the

17:45

funny talk. Yeah, because our, all of the analysis

17:47

last year was, do you have the hot goalie?

17:49

Do we have the hot goalie? We have the

17:51

hot goalie. We have the hot goalie. We have the

17:53

hot goalie. We have the hot goalie. Okay.

17:56

Season over. I don't want

17:58

to do that with this season. because there

18:00

have been a lot of exciting things

18:02

to watch over the last months to

18:04

go out at the high end of

18:07

that sport where the Rangers and the

18:09

Bruins and the Panthers are up in

18:11

the hundred and tens in points because

18:13

they're playing exceptional hockey and it's dramatic

18:15

but I want to go back for

18:17

a second here because I

18:20

am legitimately when I tell you

18:22

that's the opponent I least want

18:24

to see on this Panther season

18:26

that's built for playoff hockey because

18:30

I think we're in agreement that Tampa

18:32

Bay has stolen this state they invented

18:35

a market and now the

18:37

Florida Panthers did everything they

18:39

did to get Kachuck because of what

18:41

Tampa did to them when they had

18:44

a great offensive team and they arrived

18:46

at the doorstep of that and they're

18:48

like we're playing hockey all wrong at

18:50

this time of year but what happened

18:52

last night in hockey Stugatsch just last

18:54

night our

18:56

beloved Tortorella still

18:59

getting it done in Philadelphia leaves the

19:02

door open for a vegkin to get

19:04

in the playoffs because he pulls his

19:06

goalie with three minutes left because he's

19:08

trying to get an empty net goal

19:10

to see if they could still get

19:12

in the playoffs but seconds earlier in

19:14

Detroit a goal had already been scored

19:17

that eliminated Philadelphia and so last night

19:19

was not the United States of Tortorella

19:21

back-to-back nights the Detroit

19:27

Red Wings scored an equalizing goal

19:30

with less than 10 seconds left in regulation

19:32

to keep their season going unfortunately Philadelphia which

19:34

got boned on a call that they took

19:36

a goal off the board in the first

19:39

period in the first period I was that

19:41

was a huge bummer but Ovechkin finds his

19:43

way in the playoffs it was a great

19:45

chase for the 8 seed

19:47

in that sport but if I may

19:50

offer a rebuttal to the

19:52

what you and Billy are saying because it's

19:54

not without merit everyone's got

19:56

post-traumatic stress about the Tampa Bay

19:58

Lightning and Vasilevsky We'll say

20:01

that the last time they matched up, which was

20:03

two years ago, both teams are

20:05

pretty different. It's not just Huberdo

20:07

being gone. Yeah, you have Barkov there and

20:09

you have Bobrovsky. Ekplad is supposed

20:11

to come back in there. But the

20:14

the Florida Panthers made adjustments because of what

20:16

happened two years ago and because of what

20:18

happened in the Stanley Cup final last year.

20:20

They got bigger. They got a little bit

20:22

more physical. And Tampa, yeah, they have Kucherov.

20:25

Yeah, they have Sam Coast. Yeah, they have...

20:27

Sam Coast is still there? Yeah, we do.

20:29

That might be the last hold. But they

20:32

stopped being able to pull the trick that

20:34

they did with Kucherov still being on their

20:36

salary cap while they stashed them on the

20:38

long term injury list. They

20:40

had to start paying guys and guys

20:42

that used to kill you like Pallott

20:45

and Maroon. Fat Pat? Yeah,

20:47

and like, yes, they've had people

20:49

step up like Hagel and Point

20:52

is incredible. Sorelli's having a

20:54

career year. Paul's having a career year. But

20:57

Colorn's gone. These

20:59

are guys that were making a difference. And

21:01

there's a reason why they're not a top

21:03

of the conference anymore. You're not haunted by

21:05

just their unicorns being out there? 88th year.

21:08

Then their goalie. Their goalie is really the

21:10

only one that still scares them. When the

21:12

way things were shaken out last night, which

21:14

is improbably Boston loses to Washington and Ottawa

21:16

to close their year, Florida claws back from

21:18

down 2-0 because they were getting their asses

21:20

handed to them by Toronto, to then get

21:22

lit afire underneath them by

21:25

their head coach Paul Maurice, who did the thing.

21:27

Remember how the run spark was sparked last year? He

21:30

called them a bunch of peas and bees. He

21:32

did the thing again. Called them a bunch

21:34

of peas and bees. And then boom, five

21:37

unanswered, you win the division. For me,

21:39

I want to win the division because

21:41

I get home ice in the second

21:44

round. I think it's pretty negligible. The

21:46

difference between Toronto and Tampa. I think

21:48

Toronto is like the most-due team of

21:50

all time. They were scarier in terms

21:52

of Matthews and Marner. They're

21:55

the scarier team outside of goalie. Matthews is probably

21:57

going to get his 70th goal of the season.

22:00

tonight in the regular season finale for them.

22:02

He'd be the first player since 1992 to

22:06

score that number of goals. Marner,

22:09

Nylander, Tavares, they had a confidence with

22:11

Domi and with Bertuzzi. Bertuzzi owned the

22:13

Panthers last year. I think yeah they

22:15

have question marks about about their defense

22:17

and their goalie certainly you don't have

22:19

those questions about Vasilesky but Vasilesky hasn't

22:21

been the same player. He was the

22:23

same player during a stretch where the

22:25

Panthers were playing their worst hockey and

22:27

you've forgotten all about that nine spot

22:29

that the Panthers hung up on them when

22:31

they were playing Panther hockey. I think if you

22:33

look at the if you look at the teams

22:35

this year Tampa Bay has been bullying teams when

22:37

they've had an advantage special teams Koutarov a special

22:40

teams Maven but if you look at 5v5

22:43

the Panthers excel so you stay out of

22:45

the box you win this series which we

22:47

don't do. You said you need the hottest

22:50

goalie but the hottest goalie ever in the NHL

22:52

never even won a Stanley Cup Lundquist lost because

22:54

of the cranes. You

22:57

just use the word Maven and I

23:00

don't know what a Maven actually is.

23:02

The company that bought Sports Illustrated that

23:04

will haunt me until I die. Because

23:06

I believe Mike is haunted by the Tampa Bay Lightning

23:08

I don't see how you can't be and he makes

23:11

a good argument for it but I'm scared to play

23:13

off hockey combined with that team.

23:15

He's trying to hide it he's more confident

23:17

in his team. But he's not wrong it's

23:19

just the uniform it's not the team the

23:21

Panthers have been better all year not that

23:23

they've been better than just about everyone else.

23:25

I saw three weeks ago Tampa came in

23:27

here and I saw them I saw them

23:29

spank the Panthers I also saw the Panthers

23:31

out shoot them like crazy and they just

23:33

got goalie that game but did you see

23:35

two weeks prior when they beat the shit

23:38

out of them? I think if you look

23:40

at the last full year like our Panther

23:42

group chat we're confident against the Lightning this

23:44

is a different team. You're a Panther group

23:46

chat. No I think no but dude you're

23:48

so wrong on that we've been terrified of

23:50

this team forever and I think there's a

23:52

different energy where the Panthers they want the

23:54

Lightning they want to end all this narrative

23:56

that we're talking about. Another thing that is

23:59

not really discovered is the fact

24:01

that traveling to Toronto and having

24:03

a grueling playoff series with them and doing

24:05

that back and forth is a lot tougher

24:07

on the body than a short trip down

24:09

I-75. I

24:12

can't tell you how much I enjoy

24:14

as a slogan. I think Angel, I

24:16

want you to make this, let's get

24:18

the wording on this right, I

24:20

want t-shirts made for this Panther run.

24:22

What could be this Panther run? Our

24:25

Panther group chat we're not afraid

24:28

of the lightning. That's a tagline

24:30

for world-raw-er three. We've

24:32

made t-shirts around in the next week. We've

24:35

made t-shirts the two previous signs.

24:37

Angel, this is what I'm telling

24:39

you. World-raw-er three. Yes, Angel,

24:42

I want t-shirts because- Priority one right now Angel.

24:44

Billy, this is what- I'll do a bet with

24:46

Billy, an on-air bet where the loser has to

24:48

pay something off here. Okay. Oh, there

24:50

you go. Not so tough anymore Billy. I don't give

24:53

a shit about this. Oh, that's not

24:55

true. We're locked in here. You're taking kind of gave that

24:57

one away. But they'll be right. We

25:00

could use the content of Billy and Chris

25:02

have a caring bet that the audience is

25:04

involved in but- Did you

25:06

catch that not so subtle pressure? But Billy

25:09

doesn't care. I know. I know. I know.

25:11

I mean yes, you really do- You like

25:13

the lighting. You do take the steam out

25:15

of the content ability of what

25:17

it would have to have consequences where the audience

25:20

might care about games that they don't necessarily care

25:22

about. Well, I'm locked in on the heat right

25:24

now. Well, this is what I this is what

25:26

I want to bring up to the audience because

25:28

you got- Locked in. I want to do this

25:30

with some awareness

25:33

this year, okay? Because

25:35

last year, unexpectedly, what

25:38

happened is we were yawning through

25:40

eight seeds in hockey and basketball

25:42

and then for two months Metalarc

25:45

Media sprinting at 10.0

25:47

on a treadmill because it's live shows, it's

25:49

playoff games, it's upsets. This is the most

25:52

fun we've ever had. If the Heaton

25:54

Panthers advance, we've got plans to do a live

25:56

local hour. We're going to be doing a lot

25:58

over the next couple of weeks. of months,

26:00

but I also fear that the audience

26:02

is good and sick of all Panther

26:04

and heat talk and would love the

26:06

content of both of these teams right

26:08

out of the gate just get six

26:10

straight losses. The Panthers lose four to

26:12

the Lightning, the Heat lose their next

26:14

two, get them all out

26:17

of my life. I don't want two

26:19

months of Heat Panthers them being excited,

26:21

but we've gone from no expectations at

26:23

all last year to there are expectations

26:26

now of A, with the Miami Heat

26:28

expecting something that doesn't have a lot

26:30

of precedent in the sport, and Jimmy will do

26:32

it, playoff Jimmy will do it, and B, that

26:34

the Panthers, in our group chat, I'm not scared

26:36

of the Lightning who've only taken over Florida on

26:38

your watch as you've had to turn over the

26:40

roster. I mean if you want to make it

26:42

up this dynasty over. If you want to make

26:44

it about that and not how good the Panthers

26:46

are 5v5 and how Tampa just

26:50

totally excels on special teams, fine, look at the

26:53

recent results. Matthew Catruch wasn't on any of those

26:55

Panthers teams that lost to the Tampa Bay Lightning.

26:57

You can be haunted by Ghosts of the Past,

26:59

I understand, they're the boogeymen for you

27:01

just the same way that Boston's the

27:04

boogeymen for Toronto, but it's a different

27:06

team. This Panther team showed you a

27:08

lot in that run last year. Yeah,

27:10

it's the NHL playoffs. Every

27:12

team, damn near every team that made it is

27:15

honestly championship good. Outside

27:18

of Washington you can make a solid argument

27:20

for every team in this conference to win

27:22

Lord Stanley. Yeah, it's gonna be tough, but

27:25

guess what? Is

27:27

second favorite in the conference now for a

27:29

f***ing reason. It's gonna be fun. They're good.

27:32

Is that being irrational?

27:34

What he's saying can never have been

27:36

said before in this market. He's crazy.

27:39

No, no, this is, no, but this I

27:41

can say and it doesn't have a dilution

27:43

and it doesn't have

27:45

an argument on the other side. This

27:48

is absolutely the most

27:50

championship ready a Florida

27:53

Panthers team has ever

27:55

entered the playoffs and

27:57

second place isn't particularly close.

28:01

World War 3. We're

28:03

gonna get that off the ground. World War 3,

28:06

colon, our group chat has a

28:08

pretty good feeling about this one. Don Libba

28:10

Tard. Are the stakes that high that if

28:12

Aimee Joris loses to Kaitlyn Clark, you need

28:14

to start over again as a race. Stu

28:18

Gats. I don't know that we

28:20

have to necessarily start over, but it

28:23

might have to be, it will be a black people's

28:25

meeting, an important one that will be called the next day.

28:27

So, we might have to put some things on

28:29

the agenda and give it something simple. This is

28:31

the Don Libba Tard Show with the Stu Gats.

28:40

Do you know about me and Scotty Shuffle? No, it's

28:42

funny though, because

28:44

me and my husband, we had an entire

28:46

debate about it. What

28:56

would you do? If

28:58

it were me, the Masters is on the line. Would

29:02

you do the same thing? Would you say, hey, if it gets

29:04

to a point where you're about to give labor or give

29:07

birth, excuse me, then would

29:09

you leave the Masters? And granted, I have a

29:11

different perspective being a sports journalist, so I feel

29:13

like this is cheating, but I told him that

29:15

I would be fine if he just continued to

29:18

play. I realized that it

29:20

is the

29:22

birth of your child. Theoretically,

29:25

obviously you want to be

29:27

there, the emotional connection and all of that. I'm

29:30

not trying to say your professional

29:32

responsibilities outweigh your family's responsibilities,

29:34

but this is, yes, you could

29:36

continue to play golf, but you

29:39

don't know if you'll ever be at this point again. I

29:42

mean, this sounds like something that someone with no

29:45

children would say, but we have more kids.

29:48

You can see more births. You know what I'm

29:50

saying? I think it's one of those things, Jamel.

29:52

You Have to say it just to please your

29:54

wife, to make her happy. Hey, if she goes

29:56

into labor, I have the lead. I'm on the

29:58

18th at Augusta. I am leaving. That's more

30:00

important, family is more important. We all know

30:02

he wouldn't leave. I was is nicola way

30:04

they even bye bye. Bye. Here's the thing that

30:06

as you said some input. you sit on the eight

30:09

The of A Here's A Here's A. Here's a Hard

30:11

Decision. What? If it's the beginning

30:13

or like you know your first set

30:15

of whole, you know how. That's gonna turn

30:17

out because I thought of if I give

30:19

you permission to do this in the say

30:21

as a masters in his early and around.

30:24

A You lose. Brown

30:26

like obsessing you out if he.

30:28

Doesn't buy ago I got a let

30:30

alone so as to me. It.

30:33

Is more pressure if if something had

30:35

happened at the beginning of the up

30:37

as around you make the decision to

30:39

stay. And. Then you know when as you

30:42

will have the hear about that for the rest of

30:44

our marriage. I was

30:46

saying that he bad and the wife should

30:48

have had the baby secretly and then shown

30:50

up on the green. When he won on

30:52

he would like a balloon like a newborn

30:55

alien Bbm and my gears or child. With

30:57

the son of a pregnancy sides a

30:59

death death was ultimate violent. Book as

31:01

it is, she's running for chaos. Okay,

31:03

I got it all right. in a

31:05

pregnancy sounds like be ultimate way to

31:08

fix sporting events. Right leg you get

31:10

in if you're the heavy favorite, everyone's

31:12

betting on you. your purse, you with

31:14

your susan be like what Two three

31:16

million dollars you have a bookie come

31:18

up and you like hey ten million

31:20

dollars your wife Figs goes into labor.

31:23

No one's gonna question in all the

31:25

time there's you know, labor pains. You

31:27

go when it was a false alarm, so

31:29

you leave you guarantee you're not gonna win

31:31

by withdrawing yourself right before the final round.

31:33

Everybody gets their money. You get your ten

31:36

million. Sieges I was

31:38

on. the set off about it was empathetic and

31:40

with that you just have a process or Tessa

31:42

Blinds message and Sf. I do think that people

31:44

would be like hey wait a second season Actually

31:47

not. There's. Some people

31:49

going on now that I'm I'm know people who

31:51

end of as fake labor but not fake but

31:53

they have false alarms all the time. Are they

31:55

going to deliver babies? Say be in a green

31:57

jacket? or like this this

31:59

this this I

32:02

have a number of different things I want

32:04

to tackle with you. Follow-up? I cannot. No,

32:07

I don't want to continue. This conversation, Stugats has

32:09

been trying to get that conversation off the ground

32:11

since last week. It's the

32:13

old, it's what stirred that WFAN

32:15

stuff, an old-timey sports radio conversation.

32:17

I love them. Would you

32:19

leave the Masters if you were about to win?

32:22

Like it's just the glory day of sports radio. I

32:25

called them a liar. I mean, it's great.

32:27

Stugats did a whole show here in the

32:29

shadows by himself. It's the show that he

32:31

wants to do. But one of the

32:33

things that I have aged out

32:35

of, I feel like, Jamel, because

32:37

I felt very alone recently in

32:39

saluting. No,

32:44

Stugats, I can still have kids. I'm

32:46

sorry. It's not worth it

32:48

though. Yes, I've been having my sperm collected

32:50

recently to check on such a thing. Wow.

32:53

I apologize. Well, no, you don't

32:55

apologize. You did that aggressively and

32:57

on purpose. There's

32:59

no, like what you did was just

33:01

f***ing foul. I love you though. Jamel,

33:04

I wanted to talk to you about this

33:06

rap beef stuff that I've fallen out of

33:09

because you want an entertainment. Everyone

33:11

wanted entertainment. I was saying,

33:13

well, that's mature of J. Cole, but

33:16

nobody wanted hip-hop to not do the

33:18

professional wrestling thing of go back and

33:20

forth. And now Rick Ross predictably is

33:22

doing exactly what Jessica

33:25

said on the Postgame show the other day,

33:27

that he would shame Drake because of his

33:29

private plane. So let's check that out and

33:31

see what Jamel thinks of all of this

33:33

because I think Rick Ross is too old

33:35

for this shit too. He's my age and

33:37

he wants in on this beef with these

33:40

guys and now he's shaming Drake for his

33:42

plane. 48 hours to cut

33:44

down this begun and that old ass

33:46

jet you got, they gave it to you free. It's a 1978.

33:49

Be safe on that jersey. Be safe on

33:52

that plane. That old man. God,

33:54

man, they all need to pray for Drake and tell

33:57

Him that old ass plane. The

34:00

New York Chicago she gave it

34:02

some free for for most scenarios

34:04

and will be safe. Or

34:07

so missouri happened to you and I

34:09

couldn't take this. Be safe, mean by

34:11

to get lonely safe matter what you

34:13

see, both in the midst of oxygen

34:16

tanks in there. Was just

34:18

lucky zoom out as a mouse. It's just

34:20

the just gossiping about each other now. Is

34:23

at a desk as a really

34:25

sad moment in hip hop at

34:27

because I'm thinking about what be

34:29

split like. When. You know

34:32

how about the to innovate and when I was coming

34:34

and h to the opposite you attack the body. Lyrics.

34:37

You. You call them all sorts of names,

34:39

you know? Maybe there's some degree you attack

34:41

them that the fact that they were paid

34:44

that they are posing like there were thirty

34:46

days go to. but does that to get

34:48

hit in the a pop? A disembodied obviously.

34:50

We have importantly seen some of these been play

34:52

out a real time. And hadn't really dangerous

34:54

consequences. By think about as a know Vasily

34:57

by as You is the greatest distract ever.

34:59

I know a lot of people with they

35:01

get about. Definitely. It

35:04

is one is one or whatever either way

35:06

back at for me as is no Vasily.

35:09

Look. At the subject matter, the ice cube. Going

35:11

after his. That's all I compared.

35:14

To this this lets you know Hip Hop. The.

35:16

Gas and skip obvious reasons cause

35:18

the only. Thing you could come up

35:20

with is a sliding somebody for their

35:22

private played them. he was a weight

35:25

loss drug like I never thought the

35:27

bed or he thought be with him

35:29

Bob. Weight loss, drugs and.

35:33

Surgery and in that involves job. I

35:35

know most jobs that are another arm

35:37

or mama or flight and and none

35:39

of this has to do with the

35:41

women. May I want to go office

35:43

on the by how women are posted

35:45

or of the appointed as a bill.

35:47

I'm really happy cause you out with

35:49

why the got to be a little

35:52

yappy They got beat. Okay they they

35:54

got mad at each other hard. As.

35:56

This is just like. Know. Who can

35:58

get ill can be entertained. This is

36:00

so boring. It's just like okay. You got

36:03

a bigger house than me No

36:05

private plane is old the best you could come

36:07

up with is your private plane is old Like

36:10

Jamel sit out the where I'll tell you

36:12

how lame this is I predicted this as

36:14

a joke on Monday as where this beef

36:17

would go. Here is the clip Tony

36:19

you said he Drake has a 747 still right do we know

36:21

if it's a Boeing? No,

36:24

I don't know if it's a track

36:26

worthy like oh your plane is so

36:28

bad that the parts are coming

36:30

up because the manufacturer He's out on And

36:36

your plane is actually probably do for maintenance

36:38

now Get

36:45

a Metro beep behind that You

36:48

called it but the other thing too is like

36:50

they waited They're both too

36:52

rich like this is To

36:55

some degree beef is it's sort of a hungry

36:57

man's game, right? It's like you're coming up. You're

36:59

both going for the same stuff. They got all

37:01

the stuff. They got platinum records They got all

37:03

the the toys. They got all the women they

37:06

got all that They got all this stuff and

37:08

so it's like what are you really

37:10

gonna say and to humble somebody else who

37:12

has all this money? There's like nothing you

37:14

could say like I dare you

37:16

to write another one ever one here Like what are you gonna

37:18

say to them? So, I don't know I'm

37:21

just I'm really disappointed and unfortunately it

37:23

just reminds me one that I'm old

37:25

as well So like you Dan,

37:27

I didn't even know where this came from how

37:29

it started Why I mean I got more Intel

37:31

as it went on but it just it

37:34

just seemed very They couldn't even

37:36

stage it in a way that was entertaining you

37:38

say it's a hungry man's game But it's harder

37:40

to be hungry when you're on ozem pic It

37:43

is What

37:46

you're saying there about to go from

37:48

no Vaseline to she didn't even mention

37:50

nose job and ab job like she

37:52

wasn't Even like talking accusations of a

37:55

$40,000 ab job are amazing Claiming

38:00

that someone is 25% body

38:02

fat, but just has the Ricardo

38:04

Montalbon prosthesis surgically placed

38:08

Is an amazing claim but to go

38:10

from no Vaseline to that Is

38:13

crazy Jamel? Well, you know what? You know

38:16

what? Then I never I never use this

38:18

word within the context in which conservatives

38:20

do but this is some woke bullshit

38:22

I'm not gonna lie like this really is Right

38:26

here because then you have

38:28

Drake Flaming Rick Ross is

38:30

racist. What are we talking about

38:32

here? And he's brought his mother

38:34

into this beef I'm like, oh

38:36

my god I just

38:39

just why just why LL Cool

38:41

J who destroyed cannabis is Rolling

38:44

in his grave like what Cole Mo

38:46

D is like, where do we

38:48

go wrong with all of this? So this

38:50

is a disappointing moment Jamel. I

38:53

have told you I've said publicly and privately

38:55

that I've just sort of I've

38:58

been awed by what

39:00

you've had to endure in our careers

39:02

and every time you come on here

39:04

Somebody grabs something that you do and

39:06

it gets thrown into the atmosphere for

39:08

people to argue about you become sort

39:10

of a symbol for people

39:13

love Arriving around you

39:15

and being divisive and yelling about the things

39:17

that you are saying I

39:19

wanted your take on what the last

39:21

seven days of women's basketball has

39:24

been as both a celebration

39:26

of a moment arriving that has

39:28

to be just so earned and

39:31

Emotional and heartfelt to see this last

39:34

week happen in this sport and then

39:36

to also notice Yes For years the

39:38

best of our players have had to

39:40

play overseas and risk in the case

39:42

of Brittany Griner ending up

39:44

in a most unspeakable of circumstances because

39:47

America didn't pay them correctly because The

39:49

WNBA has been something that's been hard

39:51

to run as a business So take

39:53

me through the history of where the

39:55

NBA has helped here has been a

39:57

good servant and where we arrived historically

40:00

last week because you've seen all of

40:02

it and I would imagine that

40:04

no matter how cynical you have arrived in

40:07

the business of sports and being an old

40:09

head there had to be so much moving

40:11

shit in the last week for you of

40:13

it feeling like arrival for women's sports. I

40:16

mean I would say 70% of it has been exhilarating 30%

40:19

of it has been annoying The

40:23

exhilarating obviously just based off the percentage

40:25

I gave you is that has outweighed

40:27

the annoying parts. The annoying parts is

40:29

that you suddenly have this new stream

40:31

of fans Which is great wonderful for the

40:33

game. It proves the growth it proves There's a product

40:35

that's viable but there are also a percentage

40:38

of those new fans that are coming in with very loud

40:40

and wrong and Frankly silly and

40:42

stupid opinions because they don't have the

40:44

context. They don't have the history. They

40:46

don't understand and You

40:49

know, I think this latest iteration

40:51

where suddenly Caitlin called four

40:53

year salary with the WBA Her four-year contract

40:55

gets posted and people realize she's making seventy

40:57

six thousand dollars up for

41:00

this season It's like guys, you know how

41:02

many times we've had this conversation like we've had it

41:04

online That particularly during

41:06

the last collective bargaining negotiations the players

41:08

that are currently in the league have

41:10

been very outspoken And every

41:12

time they were like clockwork

41:15

Here come an army of people saying you don't deserve this

41:17

and you have no value and you suck and nobody

41:19

watches the NBA But

41:21

now all of a sudden they want to

41:23

have a conversation about pay equity which I

41:25

find to be pretty entertaining in itself but

41:29

I think about the women especially those

41:31

who Put this league in the

41:33

position to be in now where they're starting to see some

41:35

of the benefits They're starting to see the exposure the media

41:37

attention and all of these things that they should have been

41:40

That should have been at that disposal for a long time And

41:43

the women who had to play in empty gyms

41:45

and really go through some very hard sacrifices to

41:47

get This to the point that it is

41:49

now and I think for them

41:52

this is a great moment and

41:54

even for me like as much as sometimes

41:56

our Conversations on here get drowned

41:58

out by clickbait and people refusing

42:00

to see the nuance and certain things.

42:02

I got a great email from retiring

42:05

Stanford coach, Tar van der Veer last

42:07

night that really, she read about peace that I did

42:09

for the Atlanta community. Look at me, Louise.

42:12

Yes, look at me. When

42:14

you don't look at me, Louise, we need to

42:16

fix the everything on me. Look at me. Yes,

42:18

you got an email. You got an email about

42:20

what a hero you are, how amazing you are.

42:22

That's right, I did. That's right, I did. And

42:24

she loved the peace I did for the Atlantic

42:26

and in general appreciated my thoughts and

42:29

commentary on the WNBA. But

42:31

people need to understand this. Yes, when

42:33

the WNBA started in 1997, it

42:36

was owned by all of

42:38

the NBA teams. Now we're at a

42:40

point now where there's private ownership. I think

42:43

it's more private ownership now in the WNBA

42:46

than there is NBA team

42:48

owned WNBA franchises. So

42:50

that is a tremendous sign of

42:52

growth. Last year's WNBA finals, highest

42:54

rated finals they've ever had. Across

42:56

the board, ratings were up, I think something

42:59

like almost 30% for

43:01

regular season games across all

43:03

platforms for WNBA games. And

43:05

so the growth and the potential have

43:08

been there. And what people, it's funny

43:10

how people can notice structural inequality and

43:12

other things, but not when it comes

43:14

to women in sports, or

43:16

at least not as readily. Do people

43:18

understand the whole reason that women even have access

43:21

to play at the level that they do in

43:24

college is because it was

43:26

federally forced. Meaning it

43:28

was not available. So anytime you have

43:30

something that had to be federally forced

43:32

to get people to do, there's going

43:34

to be built in structural inequality. And

43:38

they're making the mistake then, they wanna compare

43:40

where the NBA is now, which is a

43:42

billion dollar industry, to where a

43:44

27 year old league is

43:47

at this moment that is just now starting to

43:50

come into its own. I mean,

43:52

you guys are older than me, so surely you remember,

43:55

that when the NBA, they went through a period

43:57

where people considered it to be a disaster. You

44:00

had guys that were playing that were working multiple

44:03

jobs. They were, it was

44:05

riddled with drug use. People thought it was going

44:07

to go bankrupt. I mean, before Magic and

44:09

Larry Bird showed up, I mean, this league was

44:11

really quite fledgling in many ways.

44:13

But I find that

44:16

people want to weaponize sort of the

44:18

WNBA not being where the NBA is

44:20

or where some other leagues are and

44:22

use that to constantly denigrate and prove

44:24

that these women don't have value. So

44:26

I'm glad that Kaitlin Clark is opening

44:29

up the conversation. As usual,

44:31

it's disappointing that a lot of people

44:33

who don't understand the league, their finances,

44:35

what they've been through are immediately using

44:37

this as an excuse to berate

44:39

these women who only want to

44:41

play professional basketball in front of

44:44

American audiences. Jermell, good

44:46

seeing you again. It is

44:48

at least funny to see that what

44:51

cannot be said anymore is the joke

44:53

that's been made too long. Nobody cares.

44:55

Nobody wants to hear about women's basketball.

44:58

Like that joke dies a painful death

45:00

at the end here, Stu Gatz. Is

45:02

it painful? Well, but that joke has

45:05

been made, man, for a

45:07

quarter century. Does it hurt? For

45:09

a quarter century to hear that

45:11

joke? Like that every time, stop

45:13

talking about women's basketball. Nobody cares.

45:16

Like that is irrefutably

45:18

wrong now. Like that one has to

45:20

go away, but it's still being made.

45:23

Right. Well, and then let me just add to this, Dan,

45:25

before I get out of here, is

45:28

all the same people who are outraged by this,

45:30

you know, the best way you can channel your

45:33

outrage is that you can buy

45:35

the WNBA season ticket package. That's, you

45:37

know, if you have a WNBA team

45:39

that's near your, you know, near where

45:41

you live, you can, you know,

45:43

watch, pay for the cable

45:45

package, pay for the league pass at

45:47

the WNBA game. You can buy merchandise.

45:50

You can do things to change this

45:52

narrative that if you

45:54

really think these women deserve more, the best way

45:56

you could show it is also

45:58

by supporting them. is totally in your hand.

46:00

And by the way, let me just add one of

46:03

my other favorite little arguments about this entire kerfuffle,

46:06

if you will, about the salaries, is

46:08

how so many men on social

46:10

media are blaming women for the

46:12

reason why this league isn't more

46:14

successful. And granted, it is true that

46:16

there are more men that watch women's

46:18

basketball than there are women. But

46:22

again, it's amazing how they

46:24

don't recognize the structural inequality.

46:27

So the gatekeepers for

46:29

resources, for investment, for

46:31

setup have all been men. But

46:34

somehow, it's the women's fault for not

46:36

supporting other women the reason why there's

46:38

not the WNBA is not

46:40

on the same level as the NBA at the 2017.

46:42

That is correct. That is stop blaming the men. It is

46:44

the fault of the women. It is always the fault of

46:46

the women. It is the fault of the women. Now, it

46:49

is the fault of the women for letting the men be

46:51

in charge. It is the fault of the women for letting

46:53

the men be in charge. You

46:55

are fools, fools for letting us be

46:57

in charge. It is the fault of

46:59

the women. Thank you. I'm glad we

47:01

finally learned something in one of these

47:04

damn Jamel Hill segments. Finally, the truth

47:06

is spoken around here. It is the

47:08

fault of the women for allowing the

47:10

men to be in charge. See you later,

47:12

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