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first, we talk about the Florida

1:28

Panthers. They are leading 3-0 against the

1:30

Tampa Bay Lightning in the first

1:33

round. Yeah, I had them in 5. I

1:36

did not expect this to happen. They're

1:39

potentially sweeping. I thought that Andre

1:42

Vasculesca was still one, but it doesn't

1:44

seem like that's going to happen. No, he still might,

1:46

but man, I thought this series was going at least

1:48

6, maybe 7. These teams hate each

1:50

other. They're pretty evenly matched. As

1:53

we've seen in the first three games, I think it just kind

1:55

of comes down to the Panthers are deeper. Panthers

1:58

are more skilled. The goal tends to be a little

2:00

bit more. has been equal the special teams has been it

2:02

was equal heading into game three now it's a

2:04

little bit more panthers leaning which is big and

2:07

and yeah the panthers they might sweep Tampa Bay that

2:09

we should be very poetic I think for a lot of

2:11

people in South Florida the other big thing is Tampa

2:14

has been trying to go to Panthers

2:16

into these post-war so scrums Panthers

2:18

not having any of that the only time

2:20

you ever seen them actually start something is

2:22

when Sergey Brabowski has been accosted yes that's

2:25

it and I love that by the way

2:27

I love that that's not there's

2:29

no no letting that happen every time he gets

2:31

poked every time someone charges the net a little

2:33

bit too late they're all over it I feel

2:35

like that's something that not necessarily with this specific

2:37

Panthers team but Panthers teams in years past I

2:39

have not liked that they don't get the goal

2:41

and you know obviously I'm a little biased the

2:43

goaltender but I love that they're doing

2:46

that and I love that they're not getting go to

2:48

it into anything else and they're just very business as

2:50

usual like we're here for a job we're gonna do

2:52

it I think that's really what you could what you're

2:54

gonna ask for from your Panthers team in the playoffs

2:57

right now all right so as far as discipline the

2:59

Panthers have been excelling in that game

3:01

three put a side there but yeah they've

3:03

been staying out of the penalty box and

3:06

Tampa really hasn't come

3:09

through all that much in a powerful way so that's good

3:11

let's start with game one the Panthers one three two and

3:14

Alexander Barkov was excellent

3:17

in that game he provided to assist

3:19

including a highlight assist of a

3:21

Carter Verhege for his goal so yeah that that

3:23

ended up being a good game they were stopped

3:25

offensively and they ended up winning that played a

3:27

Carter Verhege was so nice because Verhege started at

3:29

the blue line he got it to Barkov on

3:32

the boards Barkov watched Verhege as he just shut

3:34

down the other side of the ice and waited

3:36

for him the lane opened up it was gorgeous

3:38

Barkov is definitely on point right now yeah it

3:40

was it was just a nice play there and

3:42

like that's that's what happened I mean

3:45

that that's a play they obviously practiced yeah well you can

3:47

tell these are guys that have been playing on the same

3:49

line together for a while like they know each other they

3:51

know where they're gonna go that's something that they've been working

3:53

on it's beautiful to see

3:55

yeah it was beautiful to see the

3:57

entire game Matthew Kachuk's empty net goal

4:00

was the game winner because again I I

4:03

mean Paul Murray said that he was fine with

4:05

that cross check you were but I

4:07

wasn't you were not now it's just a wasted penalty

4:09

that shouldn't have been called well it went against the

4:11

grain of how they had been calling that entire game

4:13

one like okay they they called it a little tighter

4:15

in the first period fine they opened it up in

4:18

the second they let everything go in the third and

4:20

then all of a sudden you're gonna call that when it's

4:22

already a two-goal game it's over and it wasn't even like

4:24

a hard one of those obvious penalties that you have to

4:26

call so I'm with you on that it almost seemed like

4:28

they were playing up to the

4:31

casinos in that one right I'm

4:33

not gonna comment on that but I will say that

4:35

I you know wasn't kind of nice and very expected

4:38

for Paul Maurice he would you know to be

4:40

so diplomatic about it he's gotten so good at

4:42

that yeah well he just doesn't

4:44

want to get fine I wouldn't either they

4:47

probably have like a Paul Maurice role after what

4:49

happened this season but there's definitely like

4:51

a swear jar with Paul Maurice's face on

4:53

it somewhere yeah that's going towards the team

4:55

dinner game to the Panthers won an overtime

4:57

3-2 and that one

5:00

was that one's pretty exciting I

5:03

can tell you right this beta like this based on

5:06

all three games the Panthers have basically

5:08

won the first five minutes and

5:10

subsequently won the entire period in all three of

5:12

these games yeah well the starts have been big the starts

5:14

have been really big for the Panthers and that's kind of

5:16

what was a key to game three I think because they

5:18

got to a really good start they were able to once

5:20

again that the lead they've gotten it they've gotten to lead

5:23

every game the series but yet game

5:25

two game two is interesting because

5:27

Tampa really put their foot down in terms

5:29

of in the defensive zone literally

5:31

putting their foot down keeping the exit strong getting

5:33

their entries getting their flow and that was why

5:35

they were able to generate a bit more offensive

5:38

opportunities than they did in game one but ultimately

5:40

once again you saw the goaltender stepping up and

5:42

the Panthers coming through again in overtime

5:44

the first period we saw Sam

5:47

Bennett get hitting what a

5:49

slap shot in the hand by I

5:51

believe it was Brandon Montor Slap shot there.

5:53

Yeah and he did not return. He ended

5:55

up missing game three in the second period.

5:57

The Tampa Bay Lightning ended up making a.

6:00

Just minutes. And the in

6:02

and of scoring. And. Possibly.

6:05

The. Best save I've seen. Out

6:08

of all. Practice. Time when

6:11

the best says i've ever seen a goat

6:13

and make was Sergei Basque you save on

6:15

that number on the I can't I come

6:17

quickly standing my memory banks for Panthers saves

6:19

over the years like I'm the one go

6:22

Statue of Liberty globe saves are flashing to

6:24

Van Bees Brooks I think I'd Valerie commenced

6:26

to and game for overtime in the final.

6:29

Know it was ah knows when center so I

6:31

can hear Gary Thorne in my head. Ozil and

6:33

for the top say that anyone harmed by yeah,

6:35

that was probably the. Probably. The Best

6:37

Hitters history. I think that unreal wingsuit

6:40

made the rounds and social media Paul

6:42

Maurice was like everybody's like of after

6:44

game on. Dame. Saving to to

6:46

sample would have taken a leader yeah and

6:48

in their peers back and forth and anyone

6:50

in overtime and Conover Hague. Mr.

6:52

Clutch Yeah is stiff overtime goal

6:55

of year's playoff career that fourteen

6:57

overtime games though. Yeah, like that's

6:59

insane. Them forty seven total playoff

7:02

games. yeah, a cipher third most

7:04

now with a dog. When and

7:06

doesn't. Matter that the eighties Naina?

7:08

yeah forgot the floor right there that I

7:10

play off during their yep Patrick Kane and

7:12

Corey Perry so only to on front of

7:14

them. Joe Sakic. Amorous, For

7:16

side so. He's. Clutch. Unbelievable. This

7:19

overtime. and speaking of overtime, eleven

7:21

straight over playoff wins for the

7:23

Panthers dating back bird that in

7:26

three playoffs. Now to Ryan Lombard

7:28

scoring in Tampa the overtime winner.

7:31

Of. Didn't. I didn't I was. Twenty

7:33

Twenty Two series. The whatever well as won I

7:35

won six. They haven't lost a playoff game since

7:38

church that was trapped in two thousand and sixteen.

7:40

That was the last playoff game that are overtime

7:42

playoff game that they lost. They want eleven in

7:44

a row since three off the record set by

7:46

Montreal in the mid nineties. I that's that's insane.

7:49

It is insane and Makinson not have been at

7:51

war with. I'm annoyed because again. Visit

7:54

to check the stripped by Yahoo Messenger, Herodotus

7:56

and past history to I will never forget.

7:58

I'll always bring it up whenever. Avon's

8:00

game theory that happened the

8:02

night before the battle is

8:04

won five to three in

8:07

Tampa. Which. Puts us in this

8:09

situation where they can indo sweep on Saturday.

8:11

Now they have. They had a rough reconfigured

8:13

minor because have been and I've been in

8:15

their. Eyes. Demon Lines to

8:17

go with Kevin Sumlin spot on the for flying

8:19

chemists him on one of thirty third line and

8:21

Anton been it took over Sam Bennett spot. Pro

8:24

dividends in the first period. I.

8:27

Think and someone dell has been really the

8:29

story that that the quiet story him for

8:31

the Plant. So fine about him. Before Sam

8:33

Bennett went out Landau was playing great on

8:35

that third line. he was looking good and

8:37

the second powerplay and with then it out

8:39

A you talked about not just London moving

8:41

up to the second line and not skipping

8:43

a beat between for hating to charts but

8:45

Evanston Illinois living up to the third line

8:47

and that I maintain it's ability to maintain.

8:49

But as zone possession and zone time and

8:51

a fourth line, Stephen Lawrence stepping into the

8:53

middle. He barely played at it. He

8:55

played for games from late December to late

8:57

March and now he comes in. Looks.

9:00

Like he's been playing all season. Sits in perfectly

9:02

with what they've been doing. And. Yeah,

9:04

that that fourth line like my clock posts. Oh, his

9:06

first playoff game since that twenty sixteen year ago they

9:08

were on the island or seem to be the pattern

9:11

baldness just unreal in this is what we talked about.

9:13

We talked about a lot, realize the depths on the

9:15

same and how big of a strength it is for

9:17

the Panthers and now it's showing you. lose Sam Bennett

9:20

I would have told you. Heading. Into the

9:22

playoffs their two guys on the team why think

9:24

are crucial that you cannot lose and that's part

9:26

of in that's bennett miss their they center to

9:28

big lines you take the matter really messes with

9:30

the depth of the forwards and it's also special

9:32

teams. But as we saw yesterday in Tampa when

9:34

you could expect Tampa's best shot they did not

9:36

wanna go down oh three which they did for

9:38

its attempts by shot they got up off the

9:40

mat and then they took them out. very impressive

9:42

you take been an Ottawa on up you lose.

9:45

A. Lawyer for checking specimen as second my which is

9:47

a lot of grit. And. it

9:50

seemed like gonna really get through it

9:52

especially your threatened with that way that

9:54

but no lightning in in a pushing

9:56

in the second period yeah yeah that

9:58

that was the Good job by

10:01

them that first goal

10:03

for Matthew Kaczak They failed

10:05

to clear and there were a couple couple of

10:07

times with a lightning failed to clear and they paid

10:09

dearly for it and it led to a very

10:12

good play Short little

10:14

Ford check nice behind the net play from

10:16

Anton Londel and he found Matthew Kaczak It

10:19

was cool what I was watching back the

10:21

goals last night What I noticed on

10:23

that goal and on Reinhardt's goal was the

10:25

primary assist Kaczak was from Londel Reinhardt

10:28

was from Tarasenko both of those passes they

10:30

were looking the other way Both

10:32

of the guys that pass that were looking this

10:34

way they passed it that way I think that's

10:36

so just the little things that nobody talks about

10:38

but that's what opens up the passing lanes That's

10:40

what helps get these things going little misdirection Oh,

10:42

it's just gorgeous and to see that see it happening

10:44

on different levels on different lines with guys who were

10:47

have not played together A whole lot whether it's Tarasenko

10:49

on that line or whether it's Londel on the second

10:51

line I know I

10:53

just feel like I'm running out of superlatives right now for

10:55

the Panthers I want to get back to the start of

10:57

that second period In fact the start of the game actually

10:59

because the Panthers did get into a bit of penalty trouble

11:02

The Gustav Forsling penalty was not a penalty.

11:04

I don't care what anybody says I was

11:07

not in interference then not at all but

11:09

the start of the second period that was

11:11

all lightning It felt like the entire crowd

11:13

it felt like all 18 of the guys

11:15

on the bench Yeah, and it felt like

11:17

the rest and the linesmen were all against

11:19

the Panthers all screening So gay

11:21

Bobrovsky in front of go all of them

11:23

everybody all 19,000

11:26

people were on the ice what it takes right? Yeah,

11:28

that's what it takes But I thought that was really

11:30

the beginning of what I was expecting to be Tampa's

11:32

comeback in the series They're gonna make it a series.

11:34

They're gonna make life out of it They'd

11:36

sweat two goals in like two minutes 12 seconds or

11:38

whatever it was to take their first lead of the

11:40

series We've been there before we've

11:42

been in that building before like that felt very

11:45

familiar And for the

11:47

Panthers to really weather that storm that

11:49

goal by Sam Reinhardt that laser of

11:51

a snipe of a shot another Nice

11:54

screen in front. Yeah That changed

11:56

the momentum in a way that the Panthers have

11:58

not been able to do traditionally. Over

12:00

the years in big moments and now we've seen. we sought

12:03

a lot last year in the playoffs and we're seeing them

12:05

pick up right where they left off last year. Man.

12:08

It's it's unprecedented and to think

12:10

that the Panthers to sweep Tampa

12:12

Bay in their own building. How.

12:15

Poetic. How just cathartic would

12:17

that be for a fan base that has

12:19

been suffering is one of the Panthers apps

12:21

and. To. Watch their neighbors to the

12:23

north wind. Three Stanley Cups. So.

12:26

Yeah. Speed. Big game on Saturday coming

12:29

up three that three unanswered goals been a patters

12:31

in that. Movie: Stretch their

12:33

arm and the panties shut

12:35

down. That. Vaunted lightning

12:37

Powerplay afford or powerplays done

12:40

and gums symlin. By.

12:42

Himself in one Powerplay says this is on

12:44

stick. Ended up. Not going

12:46

to forgot his own, one of which led to

12:48

a shorthand. a chance soul given Ceylon upon the

12:50

Pimlico has been. Excellent.

12:53

Is that maybe the signing of the off season for

12:55

the Panthers that we don't really talk a lot about

12:57

it? Of the time they did they brought in a

12:59

we are. They got Medulla. Kevin

13:02

Sunderland. They brought him in specifically to fix

13:05

the Pk importers penalty kill was not those

13:07

average maybe, but struggled during the playoffs. It

13:09

was certainly an area a member that Boston

13:11

series avoid. Every time the boss was coming

13:13

back to get a plant power play goal.

13:15

Odd. Sentiment. Is really

13:17

fortified that unit and turned it into one

13:19

of the best in the lead. They finished

13:21

i think sixteen the Nhl but they're flexing

13:24

their muscles the season they gave up the

13:26

one gold stamkos in game one in the

13:28

final minutes which he almost twenty one account

13:30

that it's well you would give them that

13:32

is a powerplay idol Stamkos for the one

13:34

powerplay daunting to and that's it. So I

13:36

think they're what to for twelve now. Beer.

13:38

That's. Really good if a good idea that team

13:40

for the number one powerplay in the league. For.

13:43

Is winning the special teams battle in the series

13:45

in that weather of three? Nothing. So we are

13:47

in our situation right now. The Panthers became the

13:49

first Stanley Cup finalists from a previous season. The

13:52

start the next post season would do Straight wins

13:54

since the A flawless wow and and ninety four

13:56

that Eighty Four oil or seem I'm pretty sure

13:58

that those it ended pretty well for them to.

14:01

Yeah. And and on of war on

14:03

a road oh to pass to. Send.

14:05

A Cup playoffs. So good. For now,

14:07

they've done. No. Excellence of they

14:09

were one of the best road seems emily during

14:12

the regular season so it's not surprising to see

14:14

that continue to see that continue in the playoffs.

14:16

and also dating back to last year, the Panthers

14:18

Roy have dominated. Dominated. The

14:20

Eastern Conference in the playoffs his last year

14:22

where they go twelve and for in a

14:25

three rounds yes another three and also fifteen

14:27

and for. Over the last

14:29

two seasons against the Eastern Conference, that's. Pretty.

14:31

Pretty good. I regret Dennis Bernstein

14:34

from the For period and series

14:36

xm any jobs and as yeah,

14:38

we're going to talk about the

14:40

entire Nhl playoffs that's coming next.

14:44

I join us right now. Isn't as Bernstein

14:46

from A for Period? You can catch him

14:48

on Series X M N H R Radio

14:51

youngest daughter right now on the entire. Playoff.

14:54

Landscape assault with Ah, the Bruins

14:56

and May Police. William. Nylander,

14:58

Men, we don't know what's gone on this unless

15:01

a lot of rumors and everything. Right now he

15:03

might be hurt, he might be in a dog

15:05

cause I really don't know. What do you know?

15:07

Dennis? I think it's an

15:09

injury and I think it's a head injury and

15:11

if I say it's head injuries belly than you

15:13

to figure out what become a head injury. There's

15:15

nothing, it's a legitimate injury or keeping them off

15:18

the ice and that's why he can go out

15:20

and skate on the ice and he goes out

15:22

and if he has seen of a check to

15:24

recovery after he gets off the ice for a

15:26

couple hours and he can go. So I think

15:29

that that the situation with the same I think

15:31

of anything nefarious as a dating wrong or is

15:33

being punished or anything like that. I think it's

15:35

a legitimate injury and and it's and if that's

15:37

the type of injury. It is. Your

15:39

belly into hockey then you don't Always

15:41

my long term it's be back Be

15:43

certainly need him because every time you

15:45

think this team climbs over the hell

15:47

against the Bruins. Pay. for like the

15:50

other night i am what's it what's a date haven't

15:52

scored more than three goals and ten playoff game some

15:54

my dad so when you're suffering offensively and one hundred

15:56

point was that a lot of the result is to

15:58

down to one and They have an issue

16:01

scoring. The other rumor is they got hurt

16:03

during the game versus the Panthers. If

16:05

the team knew they got hurt versus the Panthers,

16:07

why did he play game 82? Um,

16:11

that's a good question. That's probably only Paul Maurice

16:13

and Bill Zito and the training staff can play.

16:15

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't diagnosed, but you

16:17

know, Billy, sometimes what happens, you get hit in

16:19

the head and it, you know, the,

16:22

uh, the effects of it don't come out for a

16:24

couple of days or something like that. Like I'm all

16:26

for resting. Yeah. But look, guys, there's no

16:28

such thing as load management. In the NHL. And

16:30

there should be, there should be, because

16:32

you know why players want to play. They

16:34

don't want to sit out if they're healthy, they

16:36

don't want to play. So yeah, you can question

16:38

this and questionable reasons why guys down the stretch

16:40

should have never played like Aiden Hill, I think

16:42

played late in the series in the

16:45

season when it didn't mean anything. So why do you

16:47

do that? So I can't question them because I don't

16:49

know the timing of it, but if it is, let's

16:51

say it is a concussion. Sometimes those things come, don't

16:53

come to light for a couple of days. And sometimes

16:55

players try to play through without telling

16:57

the training staff or the team. Dennis,

16:59

I want to talk to you about the series

17:02

that I know you're covering very closely and that's

17:04

the Kings and the Oilers. Super fun so far.

17:06

Obviously game two was awesome. Particularly if you're a

17:08

Kings fan, Adrian Kempe, some really pretty

17:10

goals. Uh, but your take on the

17:12

series, because this is year three that we're getting

17:14

Kings Oilers, is Los Angeles finally going to

17:16

get over the hump this year? Does it look like in

17:18

game two that they can absolutely do that? Well,

17:21

Dorky, one of the most intriguing things was it was

17:23

warmer in Edmonton than Los Angeles when I was there.

17:25

I just thought that was a good way to do

17:27

it. It was 65 degrees,

17:29

but you know, Alberta being Alberta, it

17:31

was 30 mile an hour wins. So it wasn't

17:33

really 65. Yeah. Dorky, they got

17:36

a puncher's chance and here's why. I'll

17:38

say this big picture. The

17:40

Oilers not wanting to stay in the cup with Stewart

17:42

Skinner. They're just not, he's not good enough. And

17:45

he's, I think his save percentage against the Kings

17:47

going back to last season in this, in the

17:49

playoffs is like eight 70. He's just

17:51

not good. It's just not good enough. Like the

17:53

fourth goal that, um, that Fiala scored

17:55

against the boards. I just

17:58

threw the puck at that one in. I know it was. little

18:00

bit of a screen. I'm just not convinced that

18:02

the way the Kings can win their path of

18:04

victory through the goal, who steward Skinner,

18:06

I guess, I don't know, guys, but they can't

18:08

figure out how to stop that power play. And

18:11

they're I think 50% going back

18:13

to last playoffs. And look, they

18:16

don't do that against any other team, but this

18:18

team, they just crush it. So it's gonna be

18:20

a long contentious series to walk you just like

18:23

the other ones. I picked the others and six

18:25

would have shocked me the Kings one no, because

18:27

when I watched Skinner playing that you can't be

18:29

confident. And what they did in game two was

18:31

they would they showed the Oilers too much respect

18:33

in game one, like they backed off, they never

18:36

set up that 131. They were more aggressive on

18:38

their on their forecheck. And so even on the

18:40

first goal, Evan Buschart turns up, turns over the

18:42

puck, it's in the back of that and can't

18:44

base an oil killer. He does great against

18:46

them. The first goal is a really nice

18:48

shot. That second one was beautiful. Nice deflection.

18:50

Yeah, but we've been here before Dorky. Like

18:52

we're here like every time game three in

18:54

LA, the last two series was one one.

18:57

So although the Oilers have great offense, and

18:59

they're in Connors amazing in the first game,

19:01

you know, Zach Hyman is having a wonderful

19:03

year. There's not much to separate teams. There's

19:05

just their styles are so different. Yeah, that's

19:08

why we look at an offensive team think

19:10

okay, especially after game one,

19:12

they're gonna walk through but the Kings check for

19:14

their chances and get get some station camp

19:16

tablet like he did on Leon

19:19

dry saddle late second period. They got a punches

19:21

chance to win the series. But rightfully

19:23

so the Edmonton oil should still be favors

19:26

in the stars go to night series right

19:28

now the golden nights up to nothing. They

19:30

are majority healthy right now.

19:32

I mean, they basically got everybody back.

19:35

You mentioned Aiden Hill, he might be a little bit nicked

19:37

up, but that's about it. But all

19:39

the dollar stars in full fledged trouble right now.

19:42

Yeah, because look, belly, I picked them to

19:45

go to the cup final. Love the team.

19:47

Jim knows done an amazing job building that

19:49

roster an amazing job. Like why Johnson 33

19:52

goals. He's they third line center. It's

19:54

the only team in the league is like that. I

19:56

love them. Except for one thing I was worried about

19:58

one thing Jake Ottinger,

20:01

again, goal-tending. Like Jake wasn't, Jake

20:03

was sub 900 in the playoffs,

20:05

sub 900 this season. And

20:08

now that those four goals in game one, I'm sorry.

20:10

He's just not good enough. And that's the issue. That's

20:12

the problem. And you're right. At my

20:14

point when people ask me about Vegas, I'm like, well,

20:16

which team is going on the ice? What actual players

20:18

are going to hit the ice for game one? And

20:21

it was funny. I was in the press box

20:23

at Edmonton. I'm like walking around pregame and it's

20:25

the late starting game. And I go up to the

20:27

Fed. I go, you never guess who would score the

20:29

first goal for Dallas, for Vegas

20:32

in Dallas. One minute, one minute, 23 seconds

20:34

into the game. Some guys knew other guys

20:36

didn't. I said Mark Stone and

20:38

everybody starts laughing as soon as I say, I got,

20:41

of course he did. Yeah. You know, it's funny, Billy,

20:43

how this team has gone from like darlings when they

20:45

first came in now that without

20:47

question, they're the most hated team. Dallas

20:50

is in big trouble. They really are. They can't

20:52

beat this team. They didn't beat him last year

20:54

in the conference final. I liked them. I picked

20:56

them. They had a healthier team, but Vegas, you

20:58

know what? That's the one team that didn't care

21:00

where they finished guys like eight, seven, win the

21:02

division. Who cares? Get us an internment. Let's go.

21:05

So they look a lot. I'll

21:07

tell you on paper when you look at the lineup,

21:09

it's better than the one I want a championship because they

21:11

had a hurdle. They have Hanafin. It's,

21:13

it's, it's a very dangerous team. And yes, Dallas

21:15

is in big trouble. This has to be their

21:18

game seven, the game three. They have to win

21:20

that game or, or, or the Vegas Golden ice

21:22

are going on. So every game has to be

21:24

game seven for them. Yeah.

21:27

Well, the next one does like if they go

21:29

down free zip, it's over two, one, maybe shot,

21:31

but yeah, it's a little bit of edge, but

21:33

mentally, right. You know, you were the favorite. You're

21:35

going in, you had home ice. You blew those

21:37

two games. This has to, this has to be

21:39

a desperate Dallas stars team. And

21:42

I'm not sure that like they're desperate. That that's

21:44

the whole thing. Cause their mentality was we, we

21:46

were the number one seed in and we should

21:48

not walk through Vegas. Nobody was going to walk

21:50

through Vegas, but they didn't do enough. So yeah,

21:52

there's just not enough desperation in Dallas right now

21:54

to win those games. Now they're going to go

21:56

to Vegas and that crowd's going to be nuts. It's going

21:58

to be a major test. in the series

22:00

now despite how good they are I really think

22:02

they are. I think Dallas's main shot is the

22:05

only really question mark Vegas has is their goaltending.

22:07

Like Aiden Hill was unbelievable last year he went

22:09

on that ridiculous run but really that was out

22:11

of nowhere. Logan Thompson is a bit unproven as

22:13

well so I think that might be the Kings

22:15

only excuse me the Stars main solid there Dennis

22:17

but I want to switch gears and talk about

22:19

the Eastern Conference now. I want to talk a

22:21

little bit about the Panthers and the Lightning. For

22:25

a 3-0 series Dennis it's been

22:27

a great great three days. Tight

22:29

hockey amazing goaltending. What have your thoughts been on

22:31

it so far? Dorky I

22:33

wonder who's recording all the hits in the NHL this

22:36

year. Yeah I get a playoffs like those numbers are

22:38

like really like what game one for the Kings it

22:40

was 65 hits I'm like I don't think he

22:42

hit them in the world of 65 times. Well here's the

22:44

thing I thought it still could be I

22:47

thought that this series was a blood series like it was

22:49

gonna go seven it was good and the team that came

22:51

out of it was gonna be

22:53

really all banged up and you know the next the

22:55

next round would have been really a tough struggle and

22:57

you're right the games have been close they've been contentious

22:59

they've been entertaining they've been dramatic but

23:01

the Panthers gonna win game four they're gonna have three

23:04

games where they wouldn't have the big go on up

23:06

against their you know in interstate cousins so that's a

23:08

huge advantage for them because when you think about series

23:10

matchups you think wow that's gonna be really tough you

23:13

know you guys know the teams really hate each other

23:15

so for them to get out of three nothing lead

23:18

I'm not sure I know one guy that's not gonna quit John

23:20

Cooper he is fantastic the

23:23

way his attitude is bench interviews and

23:26

the question is how many guys on Tampa gonna show

23:28

for four because they're not wearing the series now like

23:30

how are they gonna go out they're gonna go out

23:32

meekly you know you know stammers got a contract to

23:35

worry about so it's gonna be really really interesting but

23:37

if the Panthers met let's say they even give you

23:40

know Lightning game four if they can get out

23:42

in five and not have to play more stressful

23:44

games that really is gonna help them in the

23:46

second round and possibly bond the two playoff series

23:48

coming out on a metro seemed to be over

23:50

right DB yeah they were done

23:53

before they started though yeah I

23:55

I thought like caps I maybe

23:57

gave them one game Roy because

24:00

maybe Charlie learning stands up has a great game

24:02

in DC or over gives a hat trick or

24:04

something like that but they were overmatched and the

24:06

Islanders I picked the Carolinas to win the cup

24:09

and what's going on with the goaltending with Patrick

24:11

Wahl you got an eight million dollar goaltender I

24:13

know he hasn't been great right I know Varlon

24:15

was so better but now there's going to be

24:17

certainly you know so maybe some concern about who's

24:19

really the guy there so yeah the Islanders are

24:21

going to win maybe one two games they're a

24:23

pesky team they were playing right down the stretch

24:26

but let's be real the Rangers and the Carolina Hurricanes

24:28

were the class of the Metro so I'm not shocked

24:30

that were that they're short series because they have a

24:32

far better teams power for power

24:34

as far as the Rangers capital series

24:38

is it is this it for Ovi is Alexander Overeskin

24:40

does he have enough gas in a tank to at

24:42

least go one more season and

24:44

try to break Rinkowski's goal record Billy

24:47

he saw that that contract I think is a

24:49

three-year extension he's trying to break the record the

24:52

owner Ted Leonsis loves him he's not going anywhere he'll he'll

24:54

keep playing and the good thing about it is because when

24:56

you watch that look at that team on paper belly started

24:59

the season's like how long is going to take for Alex

25:01

to get that record because the team is in the good

25:03

around him backstrom got hurt basically retired

25:05

you have guys like McMichael and shrunk and

25:07

they really facilitate goals and then he got

25:09

really hot at the end of the season

25:11

so belly he will play until he breaks

25:13

the record I don't think there'll be next

25:15

season probably early probably like maybe

25:17

Christmas of you know 2026 or something

25:21

like that so belly he's playing until he breaks

25:23

the record and I think the way he finished

25:25

the season tells you it's probably going to be

25:27

sooner than a little bit later so

25:30

Dennis out west is Vancouver done

25:32

that your demco is hurt we don't know

25:34

exactly what's happening with him I thought Nashville was going

25:36

to give them a hard time heading into the series

25:38

and they were healthy but now I'm thinking Nashville

25:41

they've almost got kind of a path laid out

25:43

for them to round two is they were seriously

25:45

in trouble here they are and

25:47

you know now there's a huge advantage in

25:49

net for Nashville right and I watched Vancouver

25:51

down the stretch and they were like a

25:54

500 team primarily because Casey the Smith was

25:56

in that not that your demco and

25:58

I picked Vancouver to win series because the Fats or

26:00

Demko and now he's out he won't play the round

26:02

two they get there yeah they're in a lot of

26:04

trouble and that's a big physical team that

26:07

Nashville has but they're not the most talented but you

26:09

know something you guys know this when

26:11

Bruno gonna get some credit for being a great

26:13

coach did it in Florida he did it with

26:15

this team they play very very well they're tight

26:17

and look at that line up Gworkie

26:19

they had Colton Sisens as a second line

26:22

center yeah and you know and training I

26:24

it's when you look at a Luke Evangelista

26:26

the guys that like you don't even know

26:28

you know who's number 40 who's

26:31

Stasti now is it Peter Stasti son

26:33

like it's it's a great

26:35

coaching job and yeah I expect and here's the

26:37

wild thing here's why we love the playoffs the

26:39

two wall cards are moving on in the West

26:42

yes that's that's that's how great this sport

26:44

is that's how much paradators so we talk

26:47

about seating and all this other thing and

26:49

wild card and you know getting to the

26:51

third in a division you know it doesn't

26:53

matter it's so great last

26:56

matchup here the Jets and Avalanche that seems

26:58

to be going seven do you think yeah

27:02

I'm still waiting for a save in that series right

27:05

what happened about yeah

27:08

if you're Colorado after the first thing we

27:10

just beat hell bucks six times didn't win

27:12

the game right and this was

27:14

supposed to be the matchup guys of the best goaltender

27:16

in the playoffs against the worst and

27:19

now it's kind of like the two bad goaltenders

27:21

I don't know what's going yeah this looks like

27:23

seven because Colorado's got so much offense and

27:25

now you can't really rely on hell buck to win you

27:27

a game you figure maybe one two games you

27:30

said and I like them coming in because

27:32

they were a hotter team and and Colorado

27:34

was so bad defensively they were really really

27:36

defensively down the stretch but yeah boy this

27:38

is going sevens could be really it's me

27:40

really entertaining to see a game seven in

27:42

Winnipeg that crowd is gonna be off the

27:44

chain all right that's the playoffs folks we

27:46

just covered it that's great series XM NHL

27:48

radio in the fourth period then Spernstein

27:50

we appreciate you joining us

27:53

oh so or it's a pleasure boys and I'll maybe I'll see you at

27:55

the cup final I think you will love

27:57

you DB see you guys Thank

28:00

you. Thank you very much. That was great. Oh,

28:02

anytime, anytime, anytime you want me to just ask. Yeah,

28:04

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