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the ones who get it done. Welcome

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to the Big Sui. Presented

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by Giraffe King. Why are you listening

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to this show? The podcast that seems

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very similar to the other Dan Lebittard

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podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to

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apologize for that. In fact, the only

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difference seems to be this imaging. I

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have been tempted in restaurants just walking

1:01

past tables to grab somebody's fries if

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they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've

1:06

done it. And now here's

1:08

the marching man to nowhere, that face,

1:10

and the habitual liar. I

1:13

could do, I feel like, a half hour, and

1:15

I couldn't, so don't please make me do it,

1:17

on the acting in that

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clip. Well, I bring it up. That's Sopranos,

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because I was just like, I feel like

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I could do an hour, and Dan's going

1:26

to be like, go ahead, do an hour.

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Well, you've been, I've seen it. What's funny

1:30

about you is that you're great when no

1:33

expectation of acting is expected of you, but

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the moment anyone asks you to act, you

1:37

become incredibly self-conscious and can't spit a syllable

1:39

without stumbling over your feet. You're a truly

1:42

terrible actor. Right. I'm more of an improv

1:44

guy. But my point is that we saw

1:46

James Gandolfini and what's the-

1:48

Edie Falco. In Edie Falco, they are

1:51

great actors. We saw them many times

1:53

in Sopranos, act. And

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in this clip, is it- were

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they just not- were they not buying their roles?

2:00

They were trying. It was mailed in, right? Was

2:02

that just me or was that terror,

2:04

that was the worst acting. If those were audition reels,

2:06

they would never have gotten the roles. I love the

2:08

fact that they broke the fourth wall at the end

2:10

just looking straight at the camera like, LeBron. Do you

2:13

think they were paid for that? Yes. No,

2:16

I don't. I don't. They did it

2:18

for free? I think that they all wanted, look, this

2:20

is a slam dunk. Yeah, what you paid for. Look.

2:24

I will tell you, because

2:26

you guys are seeing, I think everyone

2:28

is seeing what is happening all around

2:31

the podcast hustle. It

2:33

is hard to break through because

2:35

everything is fragmented. Pablo

2:37

is doing something that is hard

2:40

to pull off, which is hustling

2:42

for artifacts. This

2:44

is going to be the gossip of

2:47

the way the oral history is told

2:49

on where the Knicks failed the last

2:51

15 years to get to this moment

2:53

where they're celebrating, we got Jaylen Brunson.

2:57

But they had the prime of LeBron.

2:59

It was done. You couldn't screw this

3:01

up. You couldn't screw it

3:03

up like everyone. He's doing it near

3:05

Bristol, Connecticut because clearly he's going to

3:07

New York. Everyone had it

3:09

done to New York. They

3:12

screwed it up and Stu Gots was

3:14

screaming as it was happening. What

3:17

happened with Donnie Walsh? He had fallen

3:19

down recently, right? So it's not. Stu

3:22

Gots was infuriated because he's like, we're recruiting

3:24

LeBron and somebody's going in there in a

3:26

wheelchair. Like the head of our- The

3:28

idly's going in with rings and we're going in with a

3:31

wheelchair. We've got- Yes, but, but,

3:33

but from a freak accident of some sort

3:35

that it happened a few weeks earlier to

3:37

an old person. That

3:41

person would then in the future be a-

3:43

look, I don't, I think I have my

3:45

history right here. I think Stu

3:48

Gots was making fun of Donnie Walsh. I was. Because

3:50

there was a recent injury that made

3:52

it so the recruitment of LeBron got

3:55

messy and we were all theorizing that

3:58

the Knicks were screwing up the- recruitment

4:00

pitch but to see it to

4:02

physically see it is another thing entirely.

4:05

He underwent neck surgery to remove two

4:07

bones furs two weeks prior to that.

4:09

He was doing it out of precaution.

4:11

You have to delay that surgery. I love

4:13

the idea of James Dolan getting the clip

4:15

back of the Sopranos and being like, can

4:17

I get another take? Don't

4:20

love it. A little too much. A

4:22

little stiff. A little stiff. Yeah. James.

4:25

And then James is like, go bleep yourself. The fact

4:28

that it's so bad that it makes those actors bad

4:30

is just remarkable to me. And that's all on the

4:32

Knicks. Whoever they hired is the writers. The whole premise

4:34

to me is hokey and trite,

4:36

right? It would be like

4:38

the Miami Heat's pitch revolving around, you

4:41

know, Miami Vice.

4:43

Culture, yeah. Miami Vice and, you know.

4:46

See, it's not Miami. Yeah, or something

4:48

like that. What just happened? You were

4:50

soaring through the sky and what happened?

4:52

You were looking for something pop culturally

4:54

relevant to Miami Vice? It's

4:58

the equivalent of the Sopranos in New York. I

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would have thought Godfather just because of Rulie. Well,

5:02

but. That would have been a little

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more inventive. Forgive me, Greg. I

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really don't know just

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because we grew up around Miami

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Vice. You're mentioning a television show

5:16

that's almost at the advent of

5:18

when television became popular in this

5:20

country when there were three channels.

5:22

So your reference point on what

5:25

is cool about Miami, what is literally

5:27

from 40 years ago. Well,

5:29

enough, not 40, but your point is

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well taken. I think the pop culture

5:33

reference, I think Miami Vice was as

5:36

big or bigger nationally. It was a

5:38

giant television show. Than the Soprano. Because

5:40

there were only three channels. Okay. You

5:43

can always go with the movie version. Jimmy Fox. First episode was 1984,

5:45

so 40 years ago. Okay.

5:48

Here's the other thing. Wait, what? Here's the

5:50

other thing. What was the first thing? Are

5:52

we assuming that LeBron

5:54

James was a Sopranos fan? Maybe

5:56

he hated that show. It was

5:58

the most popular. thing in television

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and basically everyone loved the Sopranos. Well I

6:03

accept him apparently. It was only three years

6:05

at the time he saw that. What if

6:08

he likes Spongebob Squarepants and they got Spongebob

6:10

and Pat that would have landed him. We're

6:12

doing some real play in the result here

6:14

okay yeah he went to other places one

6:17

championships everywhere else and the Knicks stunk clearly

6:19

it was because of those ten minutes. I

6:21

just told Donnie Walsh he needed to delay

6:23

that surgery. After calling him Donnie Nelson That's

6:26

right. Nellie. That's correct. In hindsight

6:28

do you think he would have though? I

6:30

mean delay the surgery. Maybe

6:32

they'll do that show on FAN. Once

6:35

these secret videos get

6:37

released and get disseminated because as

6:39

the playoffs start this is going

6:42

to get the Knicks mocked because

6:44

their management has been very bad

6:46

for a long time but

6:48

what is funny about their management now

6:50

Stu Gatz is we've been mocking James

6:52

Dolan for a long time as one

6:54

of the worst owners anywhere in sports.

6:56

Great hockey. Awful over here.

6:59

That franchise has been a joke like

7:02

a management joke for a long

7:04

time. They

7:06

gave the job to Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson goes

7:09

in and says oh it's easy to be Pat

7:11

Riley I'll just be famous and fall asleep on

7:13

a bus and we won't be any good. I

7:15

can't do this lazy. I have to dedicate my

7:18

life to it. Phil Jackson says of LeBron's people

7:20

his posse his posse. It

7:23

diminishes them as they now run the Lakers

7:25

they run the sport they run the agent

7:28

they run the agent business because

7:30

the game passed Phil Jackson by right

7:32

there and the New York Knicks learned

7:34

with their management management a lot of

7:36

people questioned management I question because they're

7:38

just coming over from the agent relationship

7:41

business but they bet on relationships Stu

7:43

Gatz and they fixed it. Like

7:46

the Knicks have been a joke and James Dolan

7:48

has been the reason for a long time he

7:50

handed it to the black

7:52

dudes and they came in on relationships

7:55

and they rebuilt the Knicks in a

7:57

way that cares about the Knicks in

7:59

a way that Knicks fans get mad at

8:02

Stephen A. Smith for representing them because

8:04

they don't think that that form of

8:06

fandom comes to the core of where

8:08

the kid Marrow roots for the Knicks

8:10

from where they he'll hate Pat Riley to

8:12

help he'll go boo Pat Riley's grave. The

8:17

craziest part about LeBron in this

8:19

pitch it's 2010 it's the Sopranos

8:21

all the video looks really old

8:23

it's 14 years ago that we're

8:26

talking about he's still leading his team to the postseason

8:28

they play in a playing game night

8:30

with Lakers. Roy am I wrong? No you

8:32

are not wrong he would absolutely boo Pat

8:35

Riley's grave his tombstone. Put it put it

8:37

put it on the poll at Leb guitar

8:40

show would Knicks fans boo Pat

8:42

Riley's tombstone because I believe

8:44

they would. But would

8:46

Stephen A. not? I feel like Stephen A. would. I think

8:50

he respects him too much. He'd kick it over. Yeah. Wait

8:54

a minute those are two very different things.

8:56

Oh booing is polite. He can't kick over

8:58

his tombstone. Booing is polite? He's been working

9:00

out. Yeah. Booing is polite

9:02

compared to some things you can do to a

9:05

gravestone. You can graffiti it, you can kick it

9:07

over. Yeah. How many canate on it? I mean

9:09

there's any number of things. Am I wrong here?

9:11

I feel like a tombstone would be very difficult

9:13

to kick over. No. I don't think it would

9:15

be. I think it's just the soil underneath. I

9:17

mean maybe I'm wrong about this. I don't have

9:19

tests this year. I don't want people going out.

9:21

Let's talk this out for a second. Yeah. Foundation

9:24

on respect to dead. Let's. Well

9:26

some some dead. Yeah. There's some dead people. If we're

9:28

going to be honest you don't have to respect. Right.

9:30

Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole list of pieces of shit

9:32

that died. Like that guy last week. You know who

9:34

he is. Top five. Who? Oh OJ.

9:37

Yeah. Talk about a controversial grave. You

9:40

got Bill's fans applauding his grave while others

9:42

are booing his grave. Are Bill's fans doing

9:44

that? Yeah. Really? A complicated legacy. It's your

9:46

fault Dan. That's what we did on the

9:48

show. All

9:52

right. Here. Let

9:54

me hear what the critique was because I

9:56

have checked out. I really have. Like

9:59

I. I would say to you that

10:01

the comment section is the unhappiest place on

10:03

Earth. So I am not checking in with

10:05

the feedback that we're getting on whatever it

10:07

is that we're doing, but it is now

10:09

coming to my attention, I think, over what

10:11

you've done the last couple of days to

10:14

me, is that Stan

10:16

Van Gundy and Carl Douglas

10:18

evidently were two pro-OJ on

10:20

Friday. And

10:24

so, let me

10:26

just make sure that I have this

10:28

right. So our show is being framed

10:30

as we were more

10:32

pro-OJ Simpson than the

10:34

average show was last

10:36

week. Not more, we

10:38

were the only pro-OJ Simpson. Wow. With

10:41

complicated legacy. It took

10:43

about 15 minutes for us to say anything negative

10:45

about the man. Okay. It's just a

10:48

shame. He's never going to be able to wreck the people. He's never

10:50

going to be able to wreck the people. He's more family. He never

10:52

found the killer. Yeah, it's a shame.

10:55

Okay, you know what? What? Here's

10:57

what's not good. Here's what's

10:59

not complicated about the legacy, okay, because

11:01

this part, I don't know, in all the

11:03

talk of OJ, and I would

11:05

again urge the audience, if you have not seen

11:07

it, it is the best documentary I've seen on

11:09

any subject. What are you laughing about, Pilly? Just

11:12

the show. He's having a good day

11:15

at work, man. Who takes

11:17

the torch? I'm laughing at the show too. I'm

11:20

sorry. I mean, how is that helpful? Because

11:22

the joke is he was the killer, but

11:24

he said he was going to spend the

11:26

rest of his life searching for the killer.

11:28

And now he passed away, and he never

11:31

found the killer. Okay, so here's what's not

11:33

complicated about the legacy, okay, because I do

11:35

feel like this was lost in all the

11:37

coverage, and that documentary covered all of the

11:40

subject matter better than any I could imagine

11:42

ever being done on

11:44

any subject. It's the best I've ever seen. But

11:48

the thing that wasn't covered nearly enough,

11:50

I don't even want to laugh at

11:53

this, because this part's not funny, is

11:55

the grotesque intimacy of killing someone that

11:57

way. with

12:00

a knife, like, with

12:02

a, like, so that

12:05

I don't think it can be lost how

12:07

hard it can be to kill someone that

12:09

way. And that is the legacy.

12:12

The legacy is that, that you

12:15

were that. Like, whether it

12:17

can be proven in a civil court or

12:19

a criminal court, that's what you were in

12:22

everything else, though famous and interesting and celebrity,

12:24

everything else pales, falls and melts away in

12:26

the shadow of that. I

12:28

don't know, in the fourth episode, they did show

12:30

the pictures of the crime scene, and that was

12:32

really, really harrowing. All right. But

12:34

it was the trial of the century, and

12:37

that's what he will be remembered for. And

12:39

it's not that part's not complicated. I'm sorry

12:41

if we misrepresented it. Would

12:43

have been nice if we had that on the day. Yeah,

12:45

you got to say the day does a little late

12:47

on the take down. Yeah, I

12:49

mean, agreed, agreed.

12:52

I was reacting in the

12:55

moment by being transported.

12:58

In the 1995, not just a eulogy,

13:00

but a trilogy, a trilogy.

13:04

Hey, it's Mike, and I know you were hoping for

13:06

an update on those fishtail palms in my backyard. Well,

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have I got news for you? I actually got lighting

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If my hockey team wins, we like those suckers

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red. Anyways, I like being outside. I like looking

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at those fishtail palms. You love hearing about it.

13:22

But what's in my hand other than my app

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changing lighting? A Miller light is in my hand.

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That's right, because I know when the Miller light

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a Miller light. It makes everything so

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some people over. I'm gonna toss them that beautiful white

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14:05

Libba-tard! He called me on my own

14:07

podcast, he called me full of shit,

14:10

claiming that I'm faking interest in the solar

14:12

eclipse. Well you do do this, you love

14:15

to just get excited about everything. Okay, Junior.

14:17

Stugats! I had to school you and explain

14:19

to you. He was gonna take you to

14:21

Augusta, I mean. When I was 17 years

14:24

old, Alan Sherry and I used

14:27

to haunt the Bueller Planetarium. This is

14:29

the Don Libba-tard Show with the Stugats!

14:40

I come from an age as

14:42

does Greg Cody where a

14:45

magazine cover that you

14:47

can hold in your hand in

14:49

sports could be stylistic art. So

14:53

when I see Jimmy Butler at

14:55

the start of these playoffs on

14:57

the cover of Slam Magazine in

15:00

a style meant to conjure, here's

15:02

the last of the old

15:04

school, here's the last of

15:06

these guys in the Durant-Lebran

15:08

age who's a little bit

15:10

odder than the rest of

15:13

them, better than we thought,

15:15

tough, mercurial, unusual, is

15:17

gonna run through your organization.

15:21

Being kind of an

15:23

asshole people love because he

15:25

wins and he conquers, and

15:28

he's been greater than anyone thought he

15:30

was, and in the playoffs the last

15:32

few years, Michael Jordan

15:34

numbers indisputably while being efficient and

15:37

carrying a team to heights we

15:39

did not expect. But

15:42

the words ring hollow to me

15:44

when Jimmy Butler tells Slam Magazine

15:46

even though this cover is art,

15:48

it is beautiful as

15:50

the last stop on Jimmy Butler's

15:53

career, I doubt

15:55

him headed into these playoffs. I

15:57

am not like Stugats where I'm

15:59

from. I'm going

16:01

to blindly trust. I

16:04

fear that Philadelphia team and

16:06

I think Joe LMB'd is

16:08

better and younger and even

16:10

though Jimmy has conquered him,

16:13

Joe LMB'd healthy is

16:15

on any court

16:17

in the Eastern Conference always

16:20

the best player. Huge mistake.

16:23

Playoff Jimmy. That's

16:26

all you got? That's all that has to be said. What

16:29

has Joe LMB'd done in the playoffs? Just

16:31

about nothing. Exactly right. And Jack? Yeah,

16:35

I mean look, I think we're one way

16:37

or another there's gonna be a really good parade of

16:39

gas bags. Either it's gonna be me over and over

16:41

again or the rest of the crew because I

16:44

fully still believe in what it is that that

16:47

Jimmy Butler saying here and that he says nobody

16:49

wants to play them in a seven game series.

16:51

We know that and you know what we know that

16:54

as well. I don't know why anybody would want to

16:56

play the Heat in the seven game series. The great

16:58

thing there is I think Billy was actually asking about

17:01

Joe LMB'd and the playoffs. No, about what

17:03

Jimmy Butler has done in the playoffs. I

17:05

know what he's done. He's led the team

17:08

in the finals not once but twice. This

17:10

is when he turns it on. This is

17:12

Jimmy's season. That's exactly right. He starts out,

17:14

he kind of coasts towards the beginning of

17:16

the season, then come March-April he really turns

17:18

it on and then once we get the

17:20

playoff time it's another level and he puts

17:22

the Heat on his back and guess what?

17:24

This year he doesn't need to do that

17:27

because you get Tyler Hero back because you

17:29

have Duncan Robinson there. Jimmy doesn't need to

17:31

do all the things that Jimmy has done

17:33

the past couple of seasons but he's primed

17:35

to and needs to if he's ready. This

17:38

is not a good sign when we're getting

17:40

sarcastic Billy. No, I don't like what's happening.

17:42

I don't like what's happening here at all.

17:44

I don't understand. If I am not supporting

17:47

the Heat it's a problem. When I am

17:49

supporting the Heat it's a problem. It's clearly

17:51

sarcastic. It's the same thing with the Panthers

17:53

man. And I willed them

17:55

to a Stanley Cup final run last

17:57

season. I'll have you know. And

18:00

I will furthermore I will say this and I've said

18:02

if I've said it once I've said it a million

18:04

times The Florida Panthers do

18:07

not win a Stanley Cup final game without

18:09

Billy Gill in the building It's never happened

18:11

before every Stanley Cup final game that they've

18:13

won I've been in the building for once

18:16

since they began their history in

18:19

1993 Wow, that can't be a coincidence. Can't

18:22

be yeah good for you Billy Billy.

18:24

Somebody has written in here. I need

18:27

way more I

18:33

Just said in his headset haven't you been to all

18:35

of them too. It sounded like you were speaking aloud

18:37

my bad 100%

18:42

on me Cuz

18:45

I have what you mentioned right I too like

18:47

Billy been an eyewitness to all

18:49

of the Stanley Cup final win.

18:51

Yeah Yep

18:55

continued it Yeah,

18:59

but that goes without saying right that it couldn't

19:01

have well now he's Why

19:08

Greg yeah Greg Greg

19:11

he apologized and Craig sincerely How

19:13

is it Greg after all of these

19:16

years doing this? This is your son.

19:19

These are your producers You know

19:21

these people how is it after

19:23

all these years? You still don't

19:25

understand when they're feeding you a

19:27

joke to say on the air

19:29

or saying it themselves There's

19:31

so often that you're having a

19:34

conversation with just them and interrupting

19:36

the entirety of the show Yeah,

19:39

no, that's that's a fair question by you. Let

19:41

me give the audience a little peek behind the curtain This

19:44

is what it sounds like when it's in my dad's ear

19:46

Yeah, this is what you should say something like this and

19:48

when I'm on air I talk like this So

19:50

there are different ways that it's how do you

19:53

never know when he's producing you in Greg's offense?

19:55

He asked us to pinch our noses when we

19:57

spoke to him in his headset one and we

19:59

don't No one does it. No

20:01

one does it. He tried to avoid this.

20:03

Yeah. Greg's right. Not for good. You didn't

20:05

quite whisper. You didn't quite

20:08

whisper. No, no. I heard a

20:10

little loud. What I was saying

20:12

is the people have spoken

20:14

and they are writing in, I need

20:17

way more Marlon's talk with

20:19

Billy. Here's what I believe,

20:21

Billy. Yeah. What I would

20:23

like from you right now

20:26

is the local hour that I want. I've

20:29

wanted for so long for you to

20:31

be a voice for Miami Sports in

20:33

this, the local hour, the most precious

20:35

of hours for us around here. And

20:38

when the Heaton Panthers get going, you

20:41

don't want to be a part

20:44

of it. So now false. Okay.

20:46

Well, I'm here. Okay. Every

20:57

cup game and at what I

20:59

do there. He was playing a different game than the

21:01

rest of us. Billy, you want me to talk about

21:04

a minority? No, what I want you to do, I

21:06

can't without physically vomiting, Billy. This is what I want

21:08

you to do. This is what I'm requesting of you.

21:10

This is what I'm telling you. What

21:13

I request from you as an

21:15

employee of metal arc media who is climbing

21:17

up the ranks. Nobody

21:20

wants all of Jeremy's heat talk

21:22

and nobody wants all of Roy's

21:24

Panthers talk and nobody wants all

21:26

of Mike Ryan's hockey talk. No

21:29

one's going to want more than no

21:31

one wants, no one wants the entire

21:33

shows heat culture talk. So

21:35

what I would like for you to do in

21:38

the next five minutes, please, is I got a

21:40

three and no, no, no, we are headed. No,

21:42

not the Marlins. I don't want you on the

21:45

Marlins. I do not. I

21:48

don't want me on the Marlins. I

21:50

want you to break down the Heat the

21:52

way you were just breaking them down, which

21:55

is condensing all of our coverage into the

21:57

five minute cube that will make everyone detest

21:59

us right as the playoffs. start because all

22:01

you're doing is insincerely channeling what Jeremy and

22:04

Mike always say this time of year. No,

22:06

no. That's not what I was saying. By

22:08

the way, before we get to that, you

22:10

want to know an atrocity and an issue

22:13

with salaries? George Soriano makes ten times what

22:15

Caitlin Clark is going to make. George Soriano

22:18

of the Marlins. Unbelievable. Yesterday,

22:20

you know, I actually felt bad for

22:22

Skip. Not that we're talking about

22:24

the Marlins, we're not gonna talk about the Marlins. I

22:26

felt bad for Skip when he went out there and

22:28

there was this whole situation with the Giants where the

22:30

wrong reliever... Do you guys catch this? Did you guys

22:33

hear about this? Did you see this? I don't know

22:35

why I'm Jay Leno. It was horrible. Did you see

22:37

what happened? So the Giants had the wrong reliever come

22:39

in. He wanted a right-handed reliever instead of left-handed reliever

22:41

comes out. Then he's out there and Skip is screaming

22:43

at the umpires. There's a situation, pitch clock, amount of

22:45

time they're supposed to warm up. And

22:47

Skip was legitimately just begging for an automatic ball

22:49

to be called. Like that was the whole thing.

22:51

He didn't even want them to make the other...

22:53

He's like, can we just get a ball? Which

22:55

is completely irrelevant because they would have struck out

22:58

on four pitches anyway. So it doesn't matter if

23:00

it's a ball or a strike. That's where we're

23:02

at. That's where we're at. We're arguing for automatic

23:04

balls. Now, what are we talking about? The heat?

23:07

You were being sarcastic. We were all...

23:09

All of us... Wait a minute. Billy?

23:11

Billy? Billy? No. I was

23:13

covering the heat. Billy? Playing

23:15

games. You look... Billy. Let me explain...

23:18

Seven versus eight. Somebody... I really need

23:20

to explain this because Billy is always

23:22

an anarchist and we right now are

23:24

headed to a

23:27

two-month period potentially that's

23:29

gonna ruin his life. Lock it in. You

23:33

have kids, playoffs. Last April was

23:35

crazy. Our entire spaceship almost flew

23:37

off into the bay because

23:39

we're gonna do a lot of stuff over the

23:42

playoffs if the heat make a run. It is

23:44

beneficial to this show for the heat to make

23:47

a run. It is beneficial to the audience of

23:49

this show for the heat to fall on its

23:51

face right out of the box and us to

23:53

get our show back because they don't want two

23:55

months of local playoff coverage. I'd say it's detrimental

23:57

to the audience if the heat in the panther

23:59

is going. another playoff run. Why? I

24:02

think the audience wants Heat Knicks though. So

24:04

I think they root, the audience roots for

24:06

the Heat against Philly so that

24:08

we can see Heat Knicks. It's fair. Heat

24:10

Celtics is fun too. It's short. Not

24:13

for the Heat. It's short. What's a,

24:15

you mentioned it earlier and Butler's always

24:17

saying this, the whole narrative that nobody

24:20

wants to face the Miami Heat, why?

24:23

They have the most playoff wins of anybody in

24:25

the East over the last four years. Well, okay,

24:27

but let's not talk about four years ago. Let's

24:29

talk about this season. Okay, what about last season?

24:31

Okay, last year. That's still not this

24:33

season. Okay, that's an outlier, what happened last year.

24:36

No, it's not. They made it to the

24:38

finals. Stay with this season, Greg. The

24:40

idea that the Boston Celtics,

24:42

with the season they've had, would somehow

24:45

be afraid of the Miami Heat is

24:47

laughable to me. It's just laughable.

24:50

Understood, but Bill Simmons and

24:52

Mike Schur have articulated that fear

24:54

on behalf of Boston fans. They

24:57

fear that in a game seven Miami can go

24:59

into Boston's building and win by 25 points because

25:02

the last time it happened, it's what happened. And

25:04

do you think this Celtics team fears that? It's

25:07

not whether I think it or not. They've

25:09

spent this season winning, crushing everyone. They're clearly

25:11

better than everybody. Look at, I

25:13

can't make, you think Amina

25:15

El-Hasan's jump shot form is funny? How

25:18

about him calling Drew Holiday a corpse

25:20

and Holiday getting four years, 135 million and

25:23

now being on the Olympic team. Now

25:26

being with LeBron and KD and Joel

25:28

Embiid on the Olympic team after Amina

25:31

called him a corpse. But Greg, it's

25:33

a combination of the Celtics underachieving and

25:35

the Heat continue to overachieve,

25:37

especially in the postseason. And

25:40

so of course you're afraid of Jimmy Butler when

25:42

he went on a run last year to the

25:44

NBA finals and your guy Jason Tatum and Jason

25:46

Brown can't win. Nobody's going to fear Indiana, Orlando,

25:48

Cleveland. You're not going to, you know, you want

25:51

to face those teams. You're going to, you're going

25:53

to fear a little bit the guy who

25:55

you've seen do it who's telling

25:57

you in slam magazine, nobody wants

25:59

to. to play a seven game that's at

26:01

least in part because bolster is going to make

26:03

the series worth of adjustment that by the end

26:06

of the series it's going to be really annoying

26:08

to be playing the number one defense in the

26:10

league notice he says it over a seven game

26:12

series that's why I walked in a couple

26:14

days ago and said I fear the one

26:16

game sample of these two play ins more

26:19

than I do in game theory anybody and

26:21

adding that it's boss has dumb yeah no

26:23

I think they feared that you fear they

26:25

could lose they could lose a game anybody

26:27

they could lose at home to Atlanta and

26:30

lose at home they risk they almost lost to

26:32

Chicago last year none

26:35

of that happened they were four minutes

26:37

from us screaming all offseason trade Jimmy

26:39

and band closest thing they faced to

26:41

elimination last year in the Eastern Conference

26:44

was that play-in game against the Chicago

26:46

Bulls we're doing positive Billy next we're

26:48

doing positive really sunshine fan that's what

26:51

that's all I ever okay you're gonna

26:53

prove it next Don

26:55

Leb a card many of you by the

26:57

way are writing in and you're saying Dan

27:00

quit being so mean to

27:02

co-hosts that you always deem

27:05

incompetent that's the formula man

27:07

me being mean to the co-host

27:10

is what allows to got to take a

27:12

very wealthy vacation right now still got it's

27:15

a winning position for everyone but me having

27:17

you guys not figured this out yet

27:19

that's the whole thing is me being rotten

27:22

straight man as everyone else gets to be

27:24

incompetent and I yell at them for

27:26

being incompetent and here's the miracle of it

27:28

into the magic elixir bad which is

27:30

the only thing Greg Cody can be becomes

27:33

good and lovable and it's because standing next

27:35

to obnoxious strident me makes everyone look that

27:37

way yeah and the brush with death helped

27:39

yeah that was planned by me the whole

27:41

thing was contrived this is the done live

27:43

at our show with a still got I'm

27:50

flipping through the channels the other day Stu

27:52

got some not even watching the Marlins game

27:54

I'm just flipping through the Marlins game and

27:57

I stop and my I see

27:59

there's Ron McGahn Gill in

28:01

the stands with a giraffe, a fake giraffe

28:03

of some sort, and his wife. And

28:06

I was told he threw out the first pitch,

28:09

evidently, the honorary first pitch. How many of those

28:11

in your life have you gotten to throw, Ron?

28:14

Just two, Dan. Just two. It's my second time. But

28:16

it's the first time in the daytime with the roof

28:19

open in that ballpark, which was beautiful.

28:22

Okay. What an unnecessary fact. Yeah, but how did you do

28:24

both times? Did

28:27

you... Were you... Did you touch

28:29

your eyes? Were you able to get the ball there easily?

28:31

I got it there. I'm not going to lie to you.

28:33

I practiced. You know, they let me

28:35

practice against the wall there a lot, and I threw probably 100

28:38

pitches just to make sure I could get it across. I didn't want

28:40

to be embarrassed. Wow. And I will tell you,

28:42

I woke up the next morning, and I'm sore. I'm sore

28:44

from throwing a baseball 100 times. Against

28:47

the wall? Yeah, against the wall. They

28:51

got a place in the ballpark there where they warm up, the people

28:53

who want to throw a first pitch, and it's

28:55

literally, you know, it's a big white wall that you throw the

28:57

ball against, so it comes right back to you so they don't

29:00

have to have someone catching and throwing back to you. And I

29:02

thought I was doing. I threw like 100 of them, and I

29:04

was getting the heat on there. As a matter of fact, I

29:06

threw it so hard that Billy kind of missed it. It bounced

29:08

off his face. You

29:10

hit the mascot in the face? Not

29:14

on purpose. I threw it right at him, but it went by his

29:16

glove, and it hit him in the face. Did

29:18

you go from the mound or? From the mound, baby. That's

29:20

important. Thanks for the point there, Stu Guy. Yep, you

29:22

got it. Because all these other people are stepping up

29:24

on the grass. Yeah. No, I

29:26

stepped on the rubber from the mound. Yeah, you have

29:29

to. Well done, Ron. All right, before we get to

29:31

our animal questions, Chris Cody, I was shocked to hear

29:33

this from your father during the break.

29:36

He was yelling at both Slam Magazine

29:38

and Jimmy Butler, and he's like, somebody

29:40

fears the heat in the seven-game series.

29:42

That's what you have to say. That

29:44

is, quote, heat

29:46

bullshit culture, bluster

29:48

bullshit. That

29:51

is heat culture talking. No, but you

29:53

called it heat bullshit culture bluster bullshit.

29:55

I think I'm being slightly misquoted there,

29:57

but I'm not going to quit. No

30:00

bullshit. No hair frays. No hair frays.

30:02

I wrote it down. Normally

30:05

I don't swear. Heat bullshit

30:07

culture bluster bullshit. Two bullshit.

30:10

One of the main platforms of

30:12

heat culture is overconfidence.

30:16

The idea that you would be the team

30:18

nobody else wants to play. All

30:20

I'm saying is that very few people in America

30:22

are going to have a lot of money writing

30:24

on the heat to beat the Celtics in a

30:27

seven game series. That's odd. Not

30:29

to say they can't do it. Not to

30:31

say they can't replicate last postseason. Okay. But

30:34

the odds are really, really against. I

30:36

understand that they're different teams. They are

30:38

different teams. But the last time those

30:40

teams played a series, the

30:43

last time these two teams have been fighting

30:45

at the top of the conference for five

30:47

straight years. Yeah. Tatum

30:49

is viewed as an underachiever only because

30:51

Miami has stood in his way. We

30:55

should be celebrating Greg Cody today for

30:57

not being a homer. He's a good

30:59

boy. Standing up here. Congrats Greg. Congratulations

31:01

Greg. Okay. Hey, hey, hey.

31:03

Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey,

31:06

hey. You're the only one who's got bullshit. Whoa. Hit

31:09

the bat. Go. You are

31:11

a hero. Hit the bat. Yeah. Do

31:14

a jig. Do a jig. Do a jig.

31:17

Do a jig. Let's go. Let's

31:19

go. Yeah. All

31:21

right. Yeah. Yeah. I

31:23

want to make clear I am a homer. Yeah.

31:26

I'm not anti-heat. I'm not anti-heat.

31:28

No. I'm not wishing they lose. Keep

31:31

approaching. I'm thinking they're going to lose. That's all. I

31:33

think they're going to lose Wednesday night in Philly and

31:35

I think they're going to lose in the first round.

31:37

I don't know about that. So wait, they'll get into

31:39

the eighties. They'll win Friday. They'll win the Friday matchup.

31:41

I think so. You think so? Yeah.

31:44

Yeah. And then they play Boston, which

31:47

is very unfortunate. Sweet. It's

31:49

an interesting series. Anything can happen in a seven game

31:51

series though Greg. Five. No

31:53

one wants to play the Heat. Apparently not. Oh

31:56

my God. Five game series. Why would you want to play a team

31:58

that's 46 and... 36 I

32:00

mean Wow well you're forgetting they have spoo and he

32:03

can make the adjustment That's

32:05

another plank 46

32:09

and 36 you mock Better

32:11

than last year the next 150 games this

32:14

year, and it's a monumental achievement. It is

32:16

for them Yeah, what have they done since

32:18

Willis Reed if you extrapolate that 46 and

32:20

36 over like a thousand game

32:22

samples It's almost a hundred games over 500. That's a good

32:24

point Billy Yeah, and you know just because the Marlins are

32:27

on pace to go 29 and 133 So

32:32

let's keep that make that make that a thousand game samples

32:34

the Marlins won 290 games Ron

32:37

what is the greatest sports honor you have

32:39

received? When you have been at some

32:42

sort of local icon and where does

32:44

throwing out first pitches rank in terms

32:46

of local sports honors for you That's

32:50

the greatest sports honor for me. I mean other

32:52

than going it's not really a sports honor when

32:54

I was in the Arbetters Hall of Fame I

32:56

guess the greatest sport award. I get was It's

33:04

happened already What

33:11

an honor now you are you

33:13

are but no my greatest sports honor I

33:15

guess the greatest thing ever as far as

33:17

playing sports was I was the one-on-one all-campus

33:20

champion at the University of Florida And the

33:22

intramural program Wow Ron wait a minute. I

33:24

do want to get stuck here again before

33:26

we get to the animal video Why

33:29

is it Greg Cody? That

33:31

I cannot have Ron McGill on It's

33:37

the first our betters is a funny word

33:40

Okay, I'm a word Enjoyer

33:43

and our betters is funny to me. All

33:45

right, if I can continue, please

33:47

I simply want For

33:50

everyone to understand that

33:52

every time Ron

33:54

McGill talks about a syrup up

33:57

syrupy deep honor to him sincerely

33:59

because because Ron McGill

34:01

appreciates what I'm about to say, which is

34:03

the following. That he's

34:05

a local icon and when a place

34:07

that is a local icon also celebrates

34:10

you, then he becomes part of the

34:12

flavor and taste of Miami. Thank you.

34:14

I do agree with that. Well said.

34:17

So, but in that, that Greg

34:19

Cody would continually mock that as

34:21

one of your greatest honors, and

34:23

that he laughs every time it's mentioned

34:26

is, to me, it feels insulting to

34:28

your friendship. Hey, look,

34:30

we know, you know, like

34:33

I said, Greg's not, he's not a homer. So

34:35

he's just not going to, you know, agree with

34:37

everything. I bow to

34:40

Greg. I understand, you know, I'm not, I'm

34:42

not a, you know, a world-renowned columnist. I

34:44

don't, I'm just a local zookeeper

34:46

who sometimes gets a bone thrown to him by the

34:48

hot dog guy. So I'm happy. I mean, you're in

34:50

the Arveders Hall of Fame and you always will be.

34:53

Thank you very much. Yeah, I mean, thank you very much.

34:56

That is, baby. That is. Yeah. Look at that. Look

34:59

how happy he was. Of course. Why wouldn't he

35:01

be? And are you wearing the same shirt? No,

35:03

it's a different shirt, Dan. It's a different shirt. That's

35:06

a big crowd you got there. No,

35:08

it was packed. There was a live band.

35:11

Hello, what are you doing? Great crowd.

35:13

It is. Looks like a David Sampson

35:15

crowd at a vineyard. Wow.

35:18

Oh my gosh. That must have been

35:20

one hell of a traffic jam, man.

35:22

You are fighting everybody out. He said

35:24

he came in here with road rage

35:27

and we haven't addressed it. I meant

35:29

to address it four segments ago. He's

35:31

been complaining about Roy. Oh, I so

35:33

regret not telling the audience that he

35:35

was going to take everyone out today

35:37

because he did come in here steaming.

35:40

McGill, Greg Cody,

35:42

as legendary Miami people, can

35:45

you please shout to the

35:47

skies for our leadership, for

35:49

somebody to help us

35:51

with the terrible traffic congestion problem that

35:53

we have because our infrastructure is not

35:56

built for the number of people who

35:58

now live in South Florida. You

36:01

make a good point, Dan. You of all people

36:03

probably suffering that living on the beach because the

36:05

beach... Oh, Lord have mercy. That

36:07

is a nightmare. I only go out there to see you.

36:11

It's the worst I've seen lately, and it's getting

36:13

worse. No, it's the worst it's ever been. No.

36:16

We are now old people complaining about

36:18

traffic. Old people complaining

36:20

about local traffic. But it

36:22

can't be this bad anywhere else in the United

36:24

States. It can't be. It's not

36:26

possible. Well,

36:29

I disagree. I was just in New York City,

36:31

but then you don't need a car because you've

36:33

got incredible public transportation. But New York City is

36:35

ridiculous. You can walk faster than you can drive.

36:37

And likewise, I just spent four days in L.A.

36:40

in stop and stop traffic on the 405, which

36:43

is absolutely horrific. So I'm sure all

36:45

over the country people are saying, well,

36:48

no, we have bad traffic too. But

36:50

Miami is the worst right now than

36:52

I've ever experienced. Ron,

36:54

were 27 people inducted into the Arbiter's

36:56

Hall of Fame this year? Big class.

37:01

I don't know. Yeah, it could have been 27. What's your point, Billy? Not

37:04

just asking. I'm just curious. That's the

37:06

entire crowd. Wait a minute. 27? Don't

37:13

let anyone in. Wait a minute, Ron. An

37:15

inductee class of 27? Your

37:20

point, Stan. I mean,

37:22

there are more people outside of the Hall

37:24

of Fame than inside it. Wow.

37:28

Now, why don't you and Cody go out to lunch? Wow! Go

37:31

out to lunch. All betters. Yeah, let's go to all betters.

37:33

Yeah, go to all betters. Anybody who buys a kraut dog

37:35

gets inducted into the Hall of Fame. I'm

37:37

kidding. I'm

37:39

just kidding. You know that, Ron. Okay, guys.

37:42

How about those animal videos? All right. Let's

37:44

play this video for Ron. It's

37:47

an orangutan and a juice box. So tell

37:49

me, this is going viral on TikTok. It

37:51

is B-roll. And tell me what's happening here.

37:53

I'll narrate this. Jesus Christmas.

37:57

You know, this is, again, people doing things that shouldn't

37:59

be done. be done just to get clicks. First

38:02

of all, whatever that orangutan is drinking, it

38:05

probably shouldn't be drinking. You got a plastic

38:07

straw ripping off the plastic, filling it out,

38:09

everything bad about plastics, going into more plastic

38:11

stuff drinking. You know, stop, stop promoting this

38:14

garbage. It says a lot of vitamin C

38:16

though in the orange juice. Yeah. Yeah.

38:19

I don't even think that's orange juice. I think it's just some

38:21

artificially sweet and crap and you're

38:23

giving this orangutan an addition to

38:26

sugar like crack and it's just the worst

38:28

thing you could possibly do. And of course,

38:30

social media, the toilet full of the internet

38:32

keeps promoting it. Well, I see from the video

38:34

is a great ape using tools. Like is a

38:36

great illustration. That's the part that I was... Is

38:39

that what you saw? Is that what you saw?

38:41

I mean, if I'm going to take a positive

38:43

from the video, that will be it. I saw

38:45

an orangutan polluting. First of

38:47

all, it's orangutan, not the thing. That one.

38:49

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, it was drinking. It

38:51

was a minority, Roy, if that's all you

38:53

saw. He littered. There's no question about that.

38:55

Roy, the minority? No, no,

38:57

no, no. I'm taking the positive out of

38:59

the video and that's the positive that's all.

39:01

A great ape in the orangutan. I will

39:03

say that you are a bright

39:06

spot on this show. You are definitely a bright

39:08

spot. Really? It's never been described that way. Ever.

39:11

Come on, not by you. Also,

39:13

Roy is not in the arbiter's hall of fame. I

39:16

can eat a hot dog though. John Jay is though.

39:18

John Jay is it? What?

39:20

So is Coach Mirabal family from Columbus High

39:22

School. Wow. Who accepted on the family's behalf,

39:25

Ron? Ron is George

39:27

Moss. George Moss. And he was there. He

39:29

accepted. Ron,

39:31

the thing about this video that I

39:33

did think was more interesting than

39:37

don't do this to orangutans. They

39:39

need to have a natural lifestyle

39:42

that's not sugary plastic straws and

39:44

cardboard. But he

39:46

unwrapped the straw and used the

39:48

straw to drink from a juice

39:50

box. And I do believe that

39:53

you've become somewhat numb to how

39:55

amazing animals are. If you are

39:57

not marveling like we are at

39:59

the. orangutan using this as

40:01

a tool this way the way a human

40:03

would and telling us how smart this animal

40:06

is. Dan, I've told you

40:08

over and over how smart these animals

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are. I've watched an orangutan watch a

40:12

zookeeper unlock a lock with a

40:14

key and then try to take a stick to use it

40:16

as a key to pick that lock to get out of

40:19

its enclosure. So they are

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incredibly intelligent. They use all kinds of tools for

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things. I just wish they would show a tool

40:25

of maybe an orangutan using a stick to get

40:28

some honey out of a beehive as opposed to

40:30

pulling out a plastic straw from a plastic wrapper

40:32

and putting it into artificial sweetened juice. Don

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Van Orsdal, funeral home magnate. Wow!

40:37

Whoa! All of fame this year.

40:39

Star power. CBO. People are

40:41

dying to get in. Our betters, our betters

40:43

better give me a cut of free hot

40:45

dogs after all this publicity you guys are

40:47

doing. That right there. That

40:51

is a comedically perfect description.

40:53

See you

40:56

later Ron. Love you guys. See

40:58

you Ron. Lookin'

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at those fishtail palms. You love hearing about it but

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what's in my hand other than my app changing lighting?

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A Miller light is in my hand. That's right because

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I know when a Miller light is in my hand

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I make a good time. Miller time. I take that

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first step. I know immediately I made the right call.

41:32

Nothing goes with my fishtail palms

41:34

quite like a Miller light. It makes

41:36

everything so much better. And I'm

41:38

gonna have some people over. I'm gonna toss them

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that beautiful white can. They're gonna say heck yeah

41:43

and they're gonna have that first step and no

41:45

just like me that they made the right call.

41:47

Time's changed but you can always enjoy the great

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taste of Miller light. Tastes like Miller time. To

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